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giving nato a new lease on life. security . drug terrorism cooperation. with russia over ukraine all the while planning to boost its military presence in eastern europe. we have to quickly find ways to back away from what has been said. in the most idiotic decision and statement that could have been made. in the global community itself. but the lack of cooperation is likely to worsen drug crisis and. the world's biggest supplier of. more than three decades of war and instability in afghanistan drug production and this illegal opium economy is a lifeline for thousands of afghan farmers but also funded drug traffickers and the
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whole of on problem that extends far beyond this country's borders also those international for the first time in history israel launches a war crime hearings against some of the country's top officials. which claimed hundreds of civilian lives. and a city girl in the perfect ring in siberia. the latest world headlines live from moscow it's also international with me from everybody here welcome to the program nato is suspending old military and civilian cooperation with russia. beefing up its presence in eastern europe in response to
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the ukraine crisis and that's despite moscow's claims that it's withdrawing troops from its border with ukraine where they've been massing for drills russia said nato is decision is reminiscent of behavior from the cold war era and no one will benefit from it. looking at exactly what's at stake. by suspending military and security cooperation with russia nato has also put the brakes on a twelve year relationship initially created to keep the world safe for. europe america and russia bear the unfortunate scars of terrorism and also share the common goal of battling against extremists nato members and moscow regularly exchange information and hold consultations on various aspects of counter-terrorism in the past russia has even provided ships for nato as maritime counterterrorism
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operation. moscow and the alliance have also joined forces to remove and dismantle syria's stockpile of chemical weapons by funding and providing technical assistance for the disarmament process. for six years nato was allowed to ferry essential supplies through russia to its troops in afghanistan and in two thousand and twelve moscow granted the alliance unprecedented access to road and rail networks as well as its airspace to transport vital military hardware to its forces battling the taliban. since two thousand and five the nato russia council has been jointly training counter-narcotics personnel from afghanistan pakistan and central asian countries as of october roughly three thousand officers have been ready to fight the drug trade emanating from afghanistan despite all this historic success nato has temporarily abandoned
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strategic ties with russia while choosing to align itself closer with ukraine these kinds of drawing up of walls. rejecting relationships i'm not talking to you any more that kind of gamesmanship we have to quickly on the us side on the now. no side and i think you heard this earlier with with the nato spokesman we have to quickly find ways to back away from what has been said it's the silliest and the most idiotic decision and statement that could have been made while moscow remains in a timeout nato is expected to step up cooperation with ukraine's armed forces by training officers joint exercises and promoting reforms right on russia's doorstep acting nato had always said that the cooperation with russia is a matter of security but if you look at it if you look at the underlying reasons
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that if you look at their actions the reaction is it's never been about security it's about containing russia's growth question is will nato be able to contain the growth of terrorism drug trafficking and the spread of biological warfare all on its own marina poor nial r.t. . now afghanistan could fall victim to the political standoff between nato and russia in cooperation with moscow the alliance has been trying to curb the production of drugs in the country our report is coming your way in just a few minutes here on r.t. international. for the meantime though nato has already reinforced its presence on its eastern borders stepping up patrols over the baltic states and dispatching surveillance planes to poland and romania in addition washington is requesting an increase in the number of its troops and aircraft stationed at a black sea base in eastern romania how exactly these moves correspond with nato is mission that's up for debate and cross talk coming your way throughout the day here
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on our. nation's mission today is to justify its own existence in other words to do everything it can to strengthen its political membership and its military capability we've seen in the ukraine crisis a number of leading military. men in nato rushing to say that this proves that the alliance needs to be tough and needs to have more boots on the ground more stationed in the east of europe and so on and i think that it has exploited as it were the ukraine crisis in order to justify its existence if you look at the long history of nato cold war nato has gone out of its way not to create an adversarial relationship with russia and i think that somehow claiming that that's been the purpose all along and this is an alliance in search of a mission i simply think it's not true the alliance purpose is very simple it's to defend the member states of the alliance what is nato protecting europe against
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soviet tanks pernot about to roll into the streets of paris they'd never get through the traffic. there is no meaningful threat russia threatens no one except herself occasionally and if you're going to confront a threat going forward it's not going to be from russia it'll probably be from china at some point but i don't think nato is really involved in that front so what is it protecting you against. efforts to disrupt the production of illegal drugs in afghanistan have already cost the u.s. billions of dollars and yet it's not help to solve the problem in the slightest even when it cooperation between moscow and washington on drug trafficking was at its highest there's only help to put pressure on the illegal trade worldwide it almost seems that the more money that flows into the country the more drugs flow out across the world and europe russia america they're all on the receiving end of
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these drugs let's bring up some figures for you here on r.t. international now reports saying that afghanistan's responsible for eighty percent of the world's opium heroin production has surged now forty times higher than two thousand and one and more than a million users have died over the course of the past decade but the earnings from the trade a clearly considered worth the risk look at the billions here the lack of international dialogue could let this business grow even further as one expert of the region told us. by far the main source for drugs are for. products that smuggled to europe and russia is actually afghanistan in the west and of course the us in particular have to set aside all their geopolitical interests when it comes to global security and russia in particular has got a huge huge interest and stake in this process and different and they have to be taken into confidence and they have to be incorporated in their in the process if
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there is a lack of cooperation between russia and the west that will be a huge threat to europe's. security and also to the overall social stability and the latest numbers tell us that more than half of all provinces in afghanistan are now growing poppy crops as artie's movie caffein of reports that has certainly taken its toll on afghan society. last year afghanistan recorded its largest opium harvest ever and the scene behind me tells a story of just how devastating that's been for the people here the men are part of a growing addiction epidemic according to the united nations more than a million afghans are addicted to opium and heroin out of a population of some thirty million people which makes against and not just the world's top export of the drug but one of its top consumers too despite more than a decade of western efforts to curb production a combination of economic and political instability has meant that farmers are
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planting more poppies than ever before what can happen million acres to twenty thirteen which according to the u.n. is a thirty six percent increase from the previous year and that's translated to big box again and then is believed to have harvested nearly one billion dollars worth of the problem last year alone now this illegal opium economy is a lifeline for thousands of afghan farmers but it also funded drug traffickers and the taliban problem that extends far beyond this country's borders more than three decades of war and instability in afghanistan must yield drug production and efforts to stop it simply haven't worked the u.s. has spent seven billion dollars to counter narcotics since two thousand and two another three billion dollars on agricultural programs they were supposed to hold were switched to other crops but despite that the united nations says that nineteen of the country's thirty four provinces are now growing opium which also reflects an increase in recent years with the presidential elections around the corner along
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with a looming withdrawal of most foreign troops again it sounds booming drug trade is a major concern with global implications and if western allies and the afghan government don't do more to topple production the fear here that the drug trade could splinter the country into a fragmented criminal narco state reporting in kabul for r.t.e. m d c capital no and the afghanistan election will take place on the fifth of april we'll be covering both extensively here on our international i mean while our we will continue our series of reports on the future of afghanistan. the people of afghanistan head to the polls for the third time since the fall of the taleban but will those votes pave the way for the end of our democratic transfer of power. national money. and still to come here with international
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a question of gas for the european economy how much will it cost europe the. russian fuel the energy experts say the region just can't afford it and they're advising thinking twice before stopping any sanctions on most. of the program in the form of the situation in bahrain. the government continues to tighten its crackdown on protesters now sentencing so it's seen people to life behind bars for taking part in demonstrations the rest of the world headlines up to a very short. one on you interviews you compare its present day series to disband his civil war thousand nine hundred thirty six saying that fascism is now spreading all over the country the syrian fascism looks like and who is leading the charge as they
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represent and you type of fascism in my view. it's not only about the atrocities the rebels have been committing for example cutting people off carving their hearts and beating them that's just the surface but more importantly they represent the interests of global capital. we speak your language. program documentaries in spanish matters to you. stories. that. visit.
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from the u.s. and europe are set to meet today to discuss ways to use energy dependence on russia and the move was sparked by obama's promises to provide all the needs from america's stockpiles but as i reports these pledges are going to be very difficult to keep. a united message from europe's top brass sanctions sanctions function than to a missile sure we make sure that and acceptable actions we will bear very serious consequences but when it comes to the use dependence on russian gas. the numbers speak louder than words around a third of the gas used to mystically in the new comes from russia industries like car production metal works in other heavy manufacturing
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a reliance on russian gas for power the potential solution is that europe could importing merican shale gas which washington has already offered there's no perfect free. ideal cheap energy sources the united states as a source of energy is one possibility but that throws up its own problems firstly the united states has no operational facilities to liquefied natural gas for transport secondly would take more than two million time to trips a year to satisfy europe's demand and only about four hundred of the gas tank is needed actually exist and then the cost of shipping supplies six thousand kilometers which would be huge but before that can happen in europe we'll also have to spend years building vast gas pipe networks liquid natural gas terminals and storage facilities and after all that extra expense what effect will it have on gas
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prices the cost of gas delivered let's say here in the czech republic would be pretty much comparable to what today's today's price is a quick and easy solution to those european countries wanting to diversify away from a dependence on russian gas may sound too good to be true to some but when you speak to energy experts they'll tell you it's completely infeasible well i think it's very legitimate that every country. also. so the e.u. looks for diversification but one has to be realistic and to go with the populist everybody who claims there is enough in the short is falls in the fall short and i would say definitely until two thousand and thirty we need russian gas and. the energy relationship with russia is just too important to industry and ultimately economy to risk damaging. european union sanctions.
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toothless the trial of a building. story is always going up on our website right now including this one from syria chemical propagation syrian officials warning that rebels are preparing a shoe attack that they plan to blame on president assad's forces that's on line if you're right now this story from bolivia anger over a new mining will pushing bolivia and workers go block their streets and fight with police in other videos as well in motion section avanti dot com. right to see. first street. and i think that you're. on a reporter's twitter. instagram. are
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not far off from the update for now but the first time in history today and israeli court has heard war crimes evidence against some of the country's top officials over their conduct in lebanon and gaza a verdict is expected later today a high ranking politicians and military heads are alleged to have carried out unjustified killings collective punishment and attacks on civilians. has more on the charges. these refer back to two israeli launched operations in lebanon in two thousand and six and in gaza in two thousand and eight two thousand and nine the important points to make though is that this is the first time that this is happening here in israel and that despite this it is receiving very little coverage both in the israeli press and in the mainstream media we have contacted
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a number of lawyers and politicians as well as analysts and just about everyone has declined our request to be interviewed the charges are being grouped by modern one who is the only israeli lawyer to have served as a senior prosecutor in one of the courts at the international criminal court at the hague now he says interesting enough that there are israeli internal inquiries that looked into these operations in lebanon and gaza that actually give formal evidence that showed that these leaders wanted to intentionally hurt civilians or at the very least they intended to have no regard for the safety of civilians having said this shapiro who is a local journalist feels that very little is going to materialize in the courts. and it has no meaning because the high court is also part of the occupation and war criminals are sitting in this court for example one of them is
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a settler named berg he is a settler he is a part of a war crime he is a part of stealing lands and maybe he will be charged more they can use this petition for good propaganda their decision will be that these leaders are not. there defending israel so for them this could be an excellent stage and the media will cover it. that was artie's appalling reporting from tel aviv just a bit earlier but just to remind you the lebanon war saw more than a thousand civilians killed with the overwhelming majority of the dead being lebanese citizens the same number of civilians were killed in the gaza operations over two thousand and eight during that time israel lost just three noncombatants. by twenty minutes past the hour here in moscow siberia's diamants are considered some of the world's best and therefore most expensive but luckily for russia it has literally bags of them but to turn the raw material into
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a shiny masterpiece well it takes a bit of work to buy mots a saw for herself how every girl's dream gets its finishing touch. fragments of star t. is the guards and of course a girl's best friend. now i believe with the wedding bells just around the corner for me there was nothing more i wanted to do than shop for a little bit of sparkle and of course every bride wants to know where a diamond comes from and the diamond found in the east of siberia it's a cut above the rest. of the sense of so many of us you could see in diamonds are valued around the world mainly of just their cotton every type of card has
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a different number of facets and stones which gives it a special play in the light these are the most expensive and clean stones that every girl dreams about in one of russia's most remote and coldest cities a great treasure lies beneath the a diamond mining for diamonds first started here fifty years ago in just a few weeks ago this was deep underground. the process of diamond production begins with purchasing the rough diamonds this is what rough diamonds look like more or less analysis is made to decide what kind of shape it will be and what kind of cutting and polishing will be applied yet goods the diamond company is well known for the cutting of the stones the polish and design i was eager to see the food process from rough to ready. and this is what we end up with. this is a three karat content design is dazzling but something more modest is up my alley
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says continues there for the perfect wedding ring but in the meantime i can take a little something. i think it was. perfect with a sparkling away liberia right. and thursday necessity means luxury to be reporting on the production but also the controversy around the tradition of wearing fur in one of the world's coldest regions. now here on the program to bahrain we go a twenty year old man has been killed in battles with police some reports saying the security forces wouldn't allow an ambulance to go to his aid that's as the government has been stepping up its crackdown on the opposition the court recently sentenced thirteen people to life in prison for simply taking part in a protest more than two years ago but the convicts claim they were forced into making confessions through torture human rights activist asma darwish says the situation in the gulf state is only getting worse. and collectivists are ongoing
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especially now with their formula one event taking place in the eye and so many people are being arrested and harsh sentences are being. issued on on our democracy party stores and those who have basic rights and human rights it will continue as these charges are files these trials are all false western countries are the line and double standards when it comes to but it is not only buffering the comment in bahrain is facing not only one office the regime it is facing six across the regions of the g.c.c. so this so if it succeeds and by three it will suck says in the entire g.c.c. there are so many human rights violations in bahrain in saudi and qatar and kuwait and emirates in oman. our knowledge of the world updated by people confirmed dead after a massive earthquake struck chile it also caused
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a tsunami that hit the country's northern coast of the government had ordered the entire coastline to be evacuated a tsunami warning also given but it's since been lifted. i think the protesters angry at the e.u. is financial policies went head to head with the police in athens the violence erupted despite a government ban on rallies during a meeting in the greek capital of e.u. foreign ministers they'd all come together to approve the next chunk of greece's bailout. and pilots from germany's biggest airline have started a massive strike that is showing you all to last for three days almost four thousand flights throughout the entire country have been canceled now hundreds if not hundreds of thousands of passengers around the world all affected. the european union sending a thousand strong peacekeeping force to the central african republic after french troops failed to stabilize the region at least seventy thousand people displaced by
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ongoing sectarian violence that's killed thousands of journalist iow johnson told us he feels peace may not be the primary goal of european armies are rushing into africa. the french where coming on the back end of a fast they ask this so it's a victory in mali but i'm not being caught out significantly in the central african republic because of the problems which have been so acute and of cause they've been . they've not been able to address the problem which is why the name sorts assistance from their european all eyes which is also showing that they don't have the capability to resolve a problem that they know very little about the notes he made he well what you do find is that for the french at least they are trying to recreate all once lost influence in the world trying to ensure that their companies are more to nationals to control in terms of feet rich rich in minerals that we know exist on the ground
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i'm alternately and we know that the french outbreak into it to influence their own brand of democracy on the part of the well especially in the central african republic right now. ukraine's economy on the skids that's the focus of boom bust with erin eight unless of course you're watching us in the u.k. and as our special report on survival techniques if you suddenly find yourself where the wild things are. there's a media leader so we lead the media. by the sea pushes security for your party there's a goal. which is that no one is asking with the guests that you deserve answers from. politicking.
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no. it was a little bit. because it. was a. political commitment it was national. league. why don't you interviews you compare present day syria to the spanish civil war
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thousand nine hundred thirty six saying that fascism is now spreading all over the country does the syrian fascism look like and her is leading the charge as they represent a new type of fascism in my view. it's not only about the atrocities the rebels have been committing for example cutting people up carving their hearts and beating them that's just the surface but more importantly they represent the interests of global capital. there i marinate you're watching boom bust and these are some of the stories that we're tracking for you today. first up by sat down with american economists and
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boom bust favorite dr paul craig roberts now dr roberts and i spoke about the economic implications of the current conflict in ukraine along with the challenges facing america's middle class today you won't want to miss my interview with him was general motors c.e.o. mary barra tells lawmakers on the hill tuesday that she's still working to get to the bottom of how her company botched an ignition switch recall the mishap is not doing any favors for g.m. that bottom line that's for sure and we're going to tell you all about it coming right up then edward heiress and i are talking about cuba and today's big deal that's cuba is looking to draw more foreign investors but it's not the things apart no not at all you want to miss a moment and it all start break. our
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lead story today general motors multimillion corps recall now tuesday mary barra the c.e.o. of g.m. testified in front of congress as to why it took her company so long to recall millions of vehicles tuesday showdown between g.m. and federal regulators focused on who is to blame for certain car defects that have been linked to thirteen deaths now monday g.m. recalled another one point five million vehicles worldwide in order to fix steering system problems and more than doubled its estimate to the hits that its first quarter results will take from these recalls now at seven hundred fifty mil. in dollars worth of recalls now at the center of tuesday's congressional hearing was the recall of two point six million vehicles linked to the ignition defects defects that are said to be behind thirteen vehicular deaths the question now is who is to blame for the nearly decade long delay between the recalls that began back in february when g.m.
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engineers first found the problems with the ignition ignition switch which might have been as far back as two thousand and three in the car that they were in the car that was designed for the two thousand and five chevy cobalt now engineers discovered it was easy to jostle the keys out of the on position while the cars were running cutting power to the airbags power brakes and power steering that's a lot of things cut while driving now despite tougher laws being enacted in two thousand and two thousand and ten to encourage automakers to aggressively root out safety concerns it took g.m. almost ten years to publicly acknowledge that it had a potentially fatal problem that's a decade worth of time now g.m. isn't alone when it comes to massive massive auto recalls and in recent years consumers have proven to be more forgiving of auto makers who issue product recalls while companies that diligently raise a recall flag to run the risk that their competition will use the recall as an example of their own brand superiority those caught hiding defects until it's too late or often crucified in the media and as they should be now look at this graph
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that we have here of the largest u.s. vehicle recall in history now this is back in one thousand nine hundred forty issued a twenty one million vehicle recall for transmission and failed transmissions that failed to engage in park it's a pretty big deal if your transmission is engaging in park and you can forget the two thousand and ten toilet a lexus recall of five point four million vehicles due to unintended acceleration risks as a result of format interference that always scared me now the fact of the matter is the auto industry will never be free of consumer recalls and as vehicles become more advanced and use an increasing number of complex electrical and mechanical systems i think it's inevitable that there's going to be problems however hiding those problems from your consumers should take a serious toll on your company's bottom line. with. the.
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american economy all thread robert is back now dr roberts has consistently voiced concerns about the strength of the u.s. economy about corporatism in the us and politics and about us civil liberties now roberts is a co-founder of reaganomics and has also been an editor and columnist for the wall street journal businessweek and scripps howard news service amongst many other publications now when we last spoke a lot of his energy was focused on the economic and employment challenges facing america's middle class so i asked him what he would do if he could implementers one of two fixes to help american middle classes and here's his response you say that i would love to get into all big banks for you. grows. the federal reserve could stop the quantitative easing the purpose of which is to support the balance sheets in full. and if it stopped quantitative easing it wouldn't
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stop undermining the dot the real danger that americans face on top of the loss of their middle class jobs abroad is the collapse of the dollar because if the dollar collapses on top of the loss of justice and it's not assess and import dependent condominium the living standards would be to most people would be just steps from so that's the first thing i would do i wouldn't let the banks fail we don't need to prevent the markets from working by printing huge sums of money every month to support the balance sheet of banks when that very turning that money and that's the dollar it will actually undermine at the ball the other thing i think i would do is to change the way
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u.s. corporations are taxed i would force them away from all suring by taxing them on the basis of where they produce their product if they produce in the united states there would be taxed at a low rate if they produced in china or india or overall. for the whole market they would be taxed at a high rate so that's only two things i can think of. two very good things an interesting perspective one we frame that we heard during the financial crisis was that government allowed private gains to be offset via public losses by massive bailouts here's the question how in a globalized world does this undercut the notion that free movement of labor and capital produces the greatest welfare for the greatest number of people. of course it does look global global capitalism does not produce
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welfare for anybody except for a few firms. what globalism is it's a way to publish first world labor. and to charter. agriculture and third world countries in monocultures for export and so you destroy the self-sufficiency of peoples and the less developed economies and you destroy the self-sufficient slid the selfish and c.e.o. workforce in the developed economies and the only gainers or a few big banks and a few big corporate it is an absolute no reason that the economy should be run for the benefit of a handful of mega rich banks and corporations well what about dealing with wages directly down for example a rethink us that we had on the program scott sumner he thought that he supports
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a wage subsidies as a way to deal with the low wage growth and unemployment and other support having government create a buffer stocks since even create buffer stocks that's just a term buffer stocks and jobs instead of unemployment benefits and yet others they support a higher minimum wages what's your answer to the problem. well i think i have more to give an instant force the corporations to bring jobs back here you see what has happened since the soviet collapse is that china and india opened their labor markets to first capital so we could smell american corporations for example for sale to americans and it's the goods they make to market here in the united states they now make those braw so this separates. the the people from the production of the goods and
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services that they consume in other words they're any comments are no longer related to the goods and services that they purchased and so this destroy it's the domestic purchasing power and destroys the ability to really income growth in the united states so this has to be all to dramatically or else united states is going to become an undeveloped country you're not a developed country when you can't make anything and when you hire all your engineers and searches and design is a prof so united states has been on a path now for fifteen years maybe longer of becoming a third world country and so the notion that it's some kind of a superpower is just who you know who doesn't have an economy haven't even though
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no income growth for the vast bulk of the people for years that's a scary thought for many americans are going to ask you just kind of this on a lot of what's your forecast for the american economy in two thousand and fourteen . i have fame this year it will turn down for them they try to spin all the bad news and turn it into good news but they aren't they can always just tell you some poor indicator and say oh look our good things are i think they're i think that's going to rout out all of them this year could go all another year another difficulty is that dollar itself you know the only way they can now keep the dollar's value up is by manipulating prices go you know they drive down the price a go by selling futures contracts which. trigger stop loss orders margin call server time game starts up they started hitting it with
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a lots of negative short selling and then in the paper gold market well i think that they're running out of the ability to do that speak well of catching on as well as just the gold stocks available in the unit in the united states or anywhere in the west are paragraph to be diminished so the dollar is going to be it on the dollar could become serious problem for the you know our earlier this month the dollar fell below the index reading of eighty which is a danger sign and they were able to pump it back up a but still the natural inclination seems to be to push the dollar data so how long they can fight these tendencies and as the predicts the big countries in the world all. the way from that use of the doll this is put more pressure so i would expect that they could have two kinds of one or rising problems
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with keeping the dollar's value up and rising problems with keeping the economy from collapse. actually. so i think that the problems they face this year if not this year certainly next year. time now for a very quick break but stick around because when we return we're bringing you part two of my interview with paul craig roberts but in today's big deal edward harrison and i are discussing cuba's attempt to entice foreign investors will it work well discussed right after the break but before we go here are a look at summer closing numbers of the bell stick around.
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welcome to the john siberian. what are the places you never go to. fun. things you never do. experience you'll never get. these surprise you will. largest consumer of the season i see it with me in the country is the federal government to simply say as property will be made in these government. is the united states number division it was done public has to realize you can't just buy . your own just throw it away there's
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a problem for instance belongs to the universe means a moment of protection agency i found this on a dump site here this is here and i'm here it's not the way it's going to last the producers of these lives when they. they should be able to collect these and i believe that they should be responsible for their products from cradle to grave. face up to mexico. mental health proper till something america incorporated it also belongs to the washington metro area transit authority properties obey devastates page and trademark office. and we're back now with paul craig roberts now the second half of our interview was dominated by ukraine because dr roberts recently wrote a scathing article about what he deems to be the looting of western ukraine now in
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our interview he gave full voice to the ideas behind that article and then stopped and i first asked him to explain why i.m.f. loan agreement is western looting if you crane is getting a bailout and support economic reforms take a look what he had to say but they're not getting a bailout see what i.m.f. loans do affect ukraine will never see it all of that money with guy m.f. will do they will take the money and give it to the private banks who are the credit is growing so so that i have says ok ukrainian government we're going to bail out these banks for you. so the banks and write down their loans bikes to ukraine but the amount that the i.m.f. gives. to ukraine ok now to pay us back so that you would be able to pay us back this is what you have to do you have to cut all age pensions talking
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about cutting them by fifty percent you have to cut social services you have to cut all the subsidies to consumers such as the fifty percent subsidy of the natural gas price. you have to lay off x. amount of workers you have to sell a state all the assets to private companies in order to get more money to pay assault and then what happens is the big western companies go into ukraine and they buy up to industries american agribusiness will end up with the ukrainian farmland and the country simply is own by foreigners this is the way the i.m.f. plans always work the first thing you do is western banks get some cool government so indebted that it can't pay it and yet it can't default goes its credit rating collapses and it's now the pin the oldness flow of outside money so that the
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private banks get the country in debt and then the country then comes the i.m.f. and that's the procedure i describe it always works this way no country has ever been if it should and i won't now lobby also receive the i.m.f. loan under conditions of austerity and g.d.p. plunge and unemployment as well that skyrocketed now many people emigrated but as difficult as this period was economically some observers are now saying a lot they are represents a model in eastern europe and now they are part of being a year or so here's the question is la pierre model here or not what do you think off there there is a model of why you should never join the e.u. and never tell you that i am outflow that's left for you is a good model of that look we've got russian people here. who had to flee the lack of any jobs the opportunity they were russians who lived in latvia the russian people but what it was all in one sense for it was soviet union so they
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were there and consequence of this. it is their life which stored there into the area and now you go. what is there in five years where do you see the ukrainian political economy. over. it you know it's not even clear though. that the breakup of the ukraine is over you know it really consisted of two different countries you know a large part of what is currently ukraine. is former russian territory various traumas foreign leaders stuck in the ukraine you know lenin stuck a lot of eastern and southern. ukraine where former russian provinces and of course khrushchev stuck primary will come here is part of it but you've got a lot of the eastern and southern part of ukraine which are essentially russian territory speak russian there are russian peoples and if this is
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a stooge government that the obama regime has installed in kiev continuous its. aggressive words and deeds against the russians living in ukraine i think you'll see more of the country break away so we don't even know to what extent. but in fact there's no elected government in ukraine it's a stooge government posed by washington. so into they have an elected government and we see what its behavior is we can't even assume that the ukraine isn't go a coup because we aren't into the fall are you afraid that military confrontation or civil war even could be a plus to outcomes in ukraine. i think that the ukraine is very dangerous because of the recklessness only a part of the united states you know for the united states to go into
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a territory that for two hundred years was part of russia. had russia's black sea naval base. that the p. people in ukraine have relatives in russia and russians and relatives knew crane and for the obama regime to go in there and tear up this relationship install a stooge go with the intention of having the russians kicked out of the black sea naval base and with the intention of putting missile bases on new ukrainian border with russia this is reckless this takes a direct strategic threat to a major military power rusher is not iraq it's not libya it's not syria so i think it's extremely dangerous i don't i don't think that civil war will occur in the ukraine if we can believe he said that if they mistreat the russian
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populations in the russian army will cause russian army goes in there's nothing ukraine can do about it will for that matter anybody else so if the stooge dump persists in. persecuting the russian residents of the ukraine and that i think will calls a certain territorial loss and then all of the former russian promises will return to russia now or what whether in the west where the nato or the united states would try to intervene i would be an act of madness but of course they can system show bad judgment. what is the ploy of untag and izing russian by taking a direct strategic threat to its backyard there's no reason to do that and so when you have this type of recklessness in the west and supported by the media and
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supported by the nato puppet states this is a very dangerous situation. so paul i am with this question why don't your opinion would be the right response by the west to help reduce corruption institute reforms and support a democratic and economically prosperous ukraine to. lead other than the west is this corrupt as anybody and the whole purpose is you know the economic pearl support from the political purpose i just discussed the economic purpose just allude to train and not interested in a prosperous ukraine. who is ever prospered from that and i met you know we just had recently the report issued by the e.u. itself and european union itself that there was enormous corruption throughout the e.u. and that the losses from this corruption was equal to the gross domestic product of ukraine and wow so what are you telling me about
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a friend of the corruption that it is that the united states government is totally corrupt the whole economic policy is run for a handful of banks. that was dr paul craig roberts time now for today's big deal. runs a deal time advert harrison joins me as usual to discuss the cuban economy and its desire to entice more foreign investment wealth work well knox will find out oh yes the cuban government has approved an international investment all aimed to expand the island's struggle enough now cuban government officials say that they need to grow the economy by seven percent per year however last year it only were two point seven percent now of course this is only the latest move in a series of post cold war initiatives to move the cuban economy away from central
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planning and towards a more market oriented approach so what's happening here in cuba and why have they decided to you know kind of entice foreign investment now in the country well the economy's doing poorly and so they've decided. now's a good bit on the ocean right to open it up there could be the united states could get in there at some point it seems like perhaps in the near future there might be something there but ultimately you know the acute cuban economy is going nowhere it's stalled and they really need to shake things up and in order to do that they need foreign investment now what does this law kind of allow investors to do and will the government have any hand in how they will invest before foreign companies build now you know the only way we'll have a minority stake now they can have up to one hundred percent ownership stake ok in company so that's
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a good thing. the second thing is that if they have joint ventures then the profits that they have from those joint ventures will be taxed at fifteen percent to thirty percent ok and then most of those are going to be exempt from. that tax for least at. years that with you know the. transfer of fees profits dividends excedrin out of the island without having to pay an additional tax remember the whole problem with. repatriating their taxes back and so forth so there's no additional tax now where some of these investment risks involved with investing that i would imagine it's for the faint of heart if we look back in history it was not the best thing that you know you had business owners thrown in jail etc etc definitely well here is we have a quote here that experts say that cuba needs to convince this is from reuters need to convince foreigners that investments are see if the country is scared off investors in recent years by jailing foreign executives attempting to seize greater control of the business once they've proven successful and letting active proposals
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die without even offering the next political. you know when things are going well for the company i would just take it. in jail a nother occasion and other times you have no idea whether or not we're going to approve your investment that's not a very good policy attracting foreign i mean i don't want to put my money there that's now the question is what are investors investing in are they kind of making this a hemingway ask the hemingway days and lots of hotels and things of that nature is there other business going in now to keep well they want a lot you know like a full scale capital investment obviously but you know i know i have relatives friends who have gone to cuba from europe and you know they do have a burgeoning sort of tourism industry and i think you know europeans in particular they have experience with that industry obviously given what's gone on before if you are you know it's not for the faint of heart as you were saying if you want to
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invest the most will go to the dominican republic or hundreds of other caribbean island but for those people who already have an existing relationship the tourism industry definitely can be expanded and then once we have seen. that they are going to stick by the rules that they've set out that i would imagine that other investors can come in but you know it's all going to be the real you know. sort of riskier type of behind you know the interesting high. added thank you so much i have a feeling this is going to the last we hear of this but that's all for now you can see all segments featured in today's show on you tube at you tube dot com slash boom bust our teeth we also love hearing from you so please check out our facebook page at facebook dot com slash mumbai starting please tweet us at our neda at edward and h. from all of us here bust thanks for watching we'll see you next time shall.
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with russia over ukraine while planning to boost its military presence in eastern europe. we have to quickly find ways to back away from what has been said it's the silliest and the most idiotic decision statement that could have been made. on the global community. three decades of war and instability in afghanistan you'll drug production of this illegal opium economy. a lifeline for thousands of afghan farmers but also funded drug traffickers all of on problem that extends far beyond this country's borders.
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also this hour for the first time in history is written launches new climate hearings again some of the country's top officials over there conduct in lebanon and gaza hundreds of civilian look. and decide to go inside. in siberia one day goes on and diamond. international news and comments live from moscow this is a national with me thanks for joining us now you chose suspending all military and civilian cooperation with russia while beefing up its presence in eastern europe in response to the ukrainian crisis that's despite moscow's claims that it was drawing troops from its border with ukraine where they've been massing for drills more in
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a port now looks at how the nature of the solution is putting much more than just relations between the alliance and russia at stake. by suspending military and security cooperation with russia nato has also put the brakes on a twelve year relationship initially created to keep the world safe for. europe america and russia bear the unfortunate scars of terrorism and also share the common goal of battling against extremists nato members and moscow regularly exchange information and hold consultations on various aspects of counter-terrorism in the past russia has even provided ships for nato is maritime counterterrorism operation. moscow and the alliance have also joined forces to remove and dismantle syria's stockpile of chemical weapons by funding and providing technical
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assistance for the disarmament process. for six years nato was allowed to ferry essential supplies through russia to its troops in afghanistan and in two thousand and twelve moscow granted the alliance unprecedented access to road and rail networks as well as its airspace to transport vital military hardware to its forces battling the taliban. since two thousand and five the nato russia council has been jointly training counter-narcotics personnel from afghanistan pakistan and central asian countries as of october roughly three thousand officers have been ready to fight the drug trade emanating from afghanistan despite all this historic success nato has temporarily abandoned strategic ties with russia while choosing to align itself closer with ukraine these kinds of drawing up of walls rejecting relationships i'm not talking to you
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any more that kind of gamesmanship we have to quickly on the us side on the new. you know side and i think you heard this earlier with with the nato spokesman we have to quickly find ways to back away from what has been said it's the silliest and the most idiotic decision and statement that could have been made it all must go remains in a timeout nato is expected to step up cooperation with ukraine's armed forces by training officers joint exercises and promoting reforms right on russia's doorstep i think nato had always said that the cooperation with russia. master of security but if you look at it if you look at the underlying reasons that if you look at their actions the reaction is it's never been about security it's been about containing russia's growth question is will nato be able to contain the
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growth of terrorism drug trafficking and the spread of biological warfare all on its own marina poor nial party. moscow has responded to a nato decision to freeze corporations saying it's reminiscent of behavior from the cold war and neither side will emerge victorious their. decision to suspend civilian and military cooperation with russia gives a feeling of deja vu the very wording of the statement has a strong resemblance to cold war olds occasions it's not hard to guess who's going to benefit from scrapping russia and nato as joint work on counteracting modern threats and challenges to international and european security especially in terms of fighting terrorism piracy natural and manmade disasters and he worried stephanie not going to be russia or nato members. efforts to destroy the production of illegal drugs in afghanistan have already caused the u.s.
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billions of dollars and yet it's not helped solve the problem in the slightest even when cooperation between moscow and washington on drug trafficking was at its highest this only helped put pressure on the illegal trade worldwide it almost seems the more money that flows into the country the more drugs flow out so and europe russia america are on the receiving end let's now look at the figures reports say afghanistan is responsible for around eighty percent of the world's opium heroin production has also surged and is now fourteen times higher than it was in two thousand and one more than one million users have died over the course of the past decade but the endings from the trade are clearly considered worth the risk of production and the lack of international dialogue could lead this business grow even further that's what one expert on the region told by far the main source for drugs or for. products that smuggled into europe and russia is
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actually afghanistan the worst and of course the u.s. in particular has to set aside all the geopolitical interests when it comes to global security russia in particular and scored a huge huge interest in stake in this process and differently they have to be taken to confidence and they have to be incorporated in the process if there is a lack of cooperation between russia and the west that will be a huge threat to europe's. security and also to the overall social stability i'm going to stand i'm growing more than all provinces in afghanistan are growing poppy crops and as r.t. is lisak afenifere poured so that's taken its toll on adult society. last year
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afghanistan recorded its largest opium harvest ever and the scene behind me tells a story of just how devastating that's been for the people here the men are part of a growing addiction epidemic according to the united nations more than a million afghans are addicted to opium and heroin out of a population of some thirty million people which makes against and not just the world's top export of the drug but one of its top consumers too despite more than a decade of western efforts to curb production a combination of economics and political instability have meant that farmers are planting more poppy than ever before more than half a million acres in twenty thirteen which according to the u.n. is a thirty six percent increase from the previous year and that's translated to big box again if that is believed to harvested nearly one billion dollars worth of the problem last year alone now this illegal opium economy is a lifeline for thousands of afghan farmers but it also funded drug traffickers and the taliban problem that extends far beyond this country's borders more than three
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decades of war and instability in afghanistan must be ruled drug production and efforts to stop it simply haven't worked the u.s. has spent seven billion dollars to counter narcotics since two thousand and two another three billion dollars on agricultural programs they were supposed to hold grower switch to other crops but despite that the united nations says nineteen of the country's thirty four provinces are now growing opium which also reflects an increase in recent years with the presidential elections around the corner along with a looming withdrawal of most foreign troops again a stance booming drug trade is a major concern with global implications and if western allies and the afghan government don't do more to topple production the fear here that the drug trade could splinter the country into a fragmented criminal narco state reporting in kabul for r t m d c cops know. they have got a stone election is set for the fifth of april and we'll be covering the vote
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extensively meanwhile we'll continue our series of reports on the future of afghanistan. and talking about native decision to suspend its cooperation was russia let's now go live so john white has that right and your political commentator he joins us now live from edinburgh mr john why do welcome to all seem so what do you make of nato decision to suspend cooperation with russia also that goals and all they achievable. well should be noted that what we are seeing. in hypocrisy that lives of western foreign policy i mean you would think given the round up of tensions by the west as the russian government supported an illegal in western ukraine or in ukraine or trying to force the democratically elected president to flee the country you think of words the russian government supported the fascists and the internationalist to another hour in kiev
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and you think it was the russian government to deny movies of people their democratic rights so this ramping up of tensions are certainly dangerous but it would have been far more dangerous if the russian government had not intervened to first of all forestall the danger of civil war in ukraine if you imagine this government in kiev had been ordered to bed and to stop trying to enforce a threat to news to the country to have been violent conflict but also to restore democratic rights that were violent by millions of people in crimea so they want to think about the cold war but the reality is that in a hostile west the idea of a war never ended the only kind of cooperation that it interested in is one which involves the domination need to is nothing more than an instrument of your power that has been wounded since the collapse of the soviet union meeting in q one to enforce the rule of the west and it has been an unmitigated disaster for people
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who are. they saying in nato says that they had beefing up their presence. or they eastern borders because quote they want to reassure its members and key allies what do they mean by that. what they're doing is they're trying to for war war george or. just to the. universal oddity over. which falls a multi will turn into is much better for everyone concerned event so what we're doing is trying to reassure our satellites that still be able to protect all but protect them from war to take them from democracy because the russian government. has only been stored it democratic rights were violated as a result of the illegal coup in ukraine saluting to the stability of religion and to the future of those states can say i'm one of the baltic republics from the west
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it's not from article. poland and the baltic states have asked for thousands of nato troops to be stationed on their territories to protect them from russia as they say and while washington is expected to send hundreds more to romania do they think that they will achieve deescalation by doing this novel clearly the opposite is the case. involved in the escalating issue. you know we live in an independent world and be able to simmer rattle in the abuser diplomacy. or the should be over did our tears that russia has a strong. military strong economy and one of influence in the world and also with the emergence of china and the other bric nations the these kind of measures really keep in with the modern world and i think what was going to happen here is more and
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more come to see that your term of to rest of domination. is a multiple of world. otherwise the disaster so i really feel that as i see these western governments and most responsible for ramping up of pensions to try and learn the lessons of history are we going to go back to the one nine hundred pieces are we going to put in fascism was i want to run rampant in europe are we going to go back to push second world war where we benefited no one sort of really feel that we need some wise heads to prevail reisinger brisco commentator john white line from the u.k. mr white thank you very much. so it's a common aussie international a question over gas for the european economy how much will it cost you up to town and bonk on russian fuel bencher experts say the region can't afford and values thinking twice before slumping any sanctions on moscow.
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following the death of blast from a death sentence in pakistan saudi arabia now moves to punish heresy and atheism by law when asked if this is being used to quanta down on dissent. in the advice of a financial repressing nil by mouth breathing forced reading central bank manager console the. people of afghanistan head to the polls for the first time since the fall of the taliban but both paved the way for the first ever democratic transfer of power. but the.
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drama is the trying to be ignored. stories others to use in the. light. to picture. from around the globe. look to. this is our senior national welcome back top diplomats from the u.s. and europe are set to meet today to discuss ways to end the news an engine dependence on russia the moon was sponsored by obama's promises to provide all the gas new york needs from america's own stockpiles but as our seized one of the
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reports these pledges are going to be hard to pull up. a united message from europe's top brass sanctions sanctions function than to a missile sure we make sure that and accept any actions we will bear very serious consequences but when it comes to the use dependence on russian gas. the numbers speak louder than words around a third of the gas used to mystically in the you comes from russia industries like car production metal works in other heavy manufacturing our reliance on russian gas for power the potential solution is that europe could import american shale gas which washington has already offered there's no perfect free. ideal cheap energy sources the united states as a source of energy is one possibility but that throws up its own problems firstly
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the united states has no operational facilities to liquefied natural gas for transport secondly would take more than two million time to trips a year to satisfy europe's demand and only about four hundred of the gas tank is needed actually exist and then the cost of shipping supplies six thousand kilometers which would be huge. before that can happen in europe we'll also have to spend years building vast networks liquid natural gas terminals and storage facilities and all that extra expense what effect will it have on gas prices the cost of gas delivered let's say here in the czech republic would be pretty much comparable to what today's today's price is a quick and easy solution to those european countries wanting to diversify away from a dependence on russian gas may sound too good to be true to some but when you speak to energy experts will tell you it's completely unfeasible when i think it's very
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legitimate every country and also the e.u. looks for diversification but one has to be realistic and not to go with the populist everybody who claims there is an upturn in the short run is falls in the fall in the short run and i would say definitely until two thousand and thirty we need russian gas in europe. the energy relationship with russia is just too important to industry and ultimately the economy to risk damaging all leaving the european union's tough talk on sanctions looking rather toothless peter oliver. and there are always more stories for you on our website of course including a chemical provocation so when officials warn that rebels are preparing a huge act that they plan to blame on president assad's forces and also anger over a new mining law pushes believin workers to blockade rose and clash with police
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catch this and other interesting and unusual videos in the emotion section on r.t. dot com. human rights groups are sounding the alarm over saudi arabia after heresy became punishable by law. the country's declared atheism or questioning islam to be acts of terror in a new series of regulations claimed to be aimed against terrorists in the country but activists say the real purpose of these laws is to crackdown on dissent and to talk more leisure and join live from jordan middle east research or google mr krueger welcome to r.c. so the laws are being being presented as a means to fight terrorism and extremism in the country but what do they have to do with atheism. you know what i mean this all started in late january when the when
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the first terrorism law was passed. it included a very big definition of terrorism that included wording such as in fulton the reputation of the kingdom as terrorism and then it was followed by an. increase in ministerial regulations and the latest one. is very well known because it criminalised as a terrorist organization brotherhood. mother groups but what it also did was specified further the specific nature of terrorist activity that the law doesn't make particularly clear and i'm. and i'm honored to call him in those regulations. some are called free thought were questioning the fundamentals of the form of religion upon which the country is they say. that's not the only problematic regulation in the latest ministry of interior decreed in fact we also have regulation such as. being in contact with
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countries or organizations hostile to the kingdom one that actually. is making countries or international organizations hostile christine we are very concerned that under an article like that those who communicate with human rights watch to discuss reform discuss a report on human rights abuses could be in fact potentially prosecuted as terrorists and we don't know exactly how the saudis are going to use this complex of laws that they have every reason to believe that they probably will target these laws against people dissidents and human rights activists just as much as they do against terrorists on the margin and when a president. they solve the case recently. but they human rights chile also touched i wasn't on that agenda when the u.s. is closing. on the human rights situation that. it's incredibly disappointing that president obama didn't bring up human rights at all really during the trip he did.
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in a war on a saudi women's rights activist who's been fighting domestic violence but other than that in particular in his meetings with saudi officials he didn't bring up human rights at all it's a it's a real shame that he didn't take the opportunity because you know the u.s. and the saudis are very close relationship and it's one country because you know the saudis are going to this is that they may not like what obama has to say but they would listen but it appears in this case that obama is not just obama but receiving u.s. presidents have generally had the same policy the favor of other interests in the saudi u.s. relationship over human rights and unfortunately in this case it appears that the administration is siding with the repressors over the reformers they're not publicly speaking out. you know well known prominent human rights activists or peaceful dissidents good so it's delayed the prison terms of charges so all the related to their peaceful activism or peaceful statements we haven't heard any
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criticism of the new terrorism are. you know we see here you know sort of furtive comments about the progress of women's rights in the kingdom. but the truth is you know it's been a long time since the u.s. has really spoken out even on women's rights issues so you know the president left quite a bit to be desired in his most recent visit to the kingdom unfortunately. middle east. live from jordan. mystical sankey very much if you for having me. today for the first time in history an israeli court has had a war crimes evidence against some of the country's top officials over their contacts in lebanon and gaza as i had expected later today high ranking politicians and military has alleged to have carried out unjustified killings collective punishment and attacks on civilians placea has more now on the charges. these refer back to two israeli launched operations in lebanon in two thousand and six and in
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gaza in two thousand and eight two thousand and nine the important points to make though is that this is the first time that this is happening here in israel and that despite this it is receiving very little coverage both in the israeli press and in the mainstream media we have contacted a number of lawyers and politicians as well as analysts and just about everyone has declined our request to be interviewed the charges are being brought by modern one who is the only israeli lawyer to have served as a senior prosecutor in one of the courts at the international criminal court at the hague now he says interesting enough that there are israeli internal inquiries that looked into these operations in lebanon and gaza that actually give formal evidence that showed that these leaders wanted to intentionally hurt civilians or at the very least they intended to have no regard for the safety of civilians having
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said this shapiro who is a local journalist feels that very little is going to materialize in the courts over most. of it has no meaning because the high court is also part of the occupation and war criminals are sitting in this court for example one of the new judges is essential or named norm solberg he is a settler he is a part of a war crime he is a part of stealing land and maybe he will be charged more they can use this petition for good propaganda their decision will be that these leaders are not. there defending israel so for them this can be an excellent stage and the media will cover it. reporting there from tel aviv just to remind you of the lebanon war so more than a thousand civilians killed with the overwhelming majority of the dead lebanese citizens the same number of civilians were killed in the gaza operation in two
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thousand and eight in which is just three competence up next it's our report on survival techniques if you suddenly find yourself where the wild things are but if you're watching us in the u.k. afshin rattansi is taking younger ground. live. live.
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live. live. live the way. clear limits. and be useful russia's lakes a deep in their winter freeze and i traveled from beyond the city of to enjoy the. visibility is often poor at this time of year and
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the local hovercraft still busy trade. as my guide and i made our way out on the ice we thought we had everything we could possibly want it was cold it was blustery it was perfect. one of the very favorites of class times of russian men everywhere it's got to be ice fishing so we've come out to this frozen lake for a little bit of solitude and hopefully a few bites my friend gauri here is going to say to me how it's done a little bit worried about. the strength of this wind but hopefully should be fine
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. picking your spokes seems to be more a matter of luck than judgment if the outside pressure is too high the fish won't come calling anyway but to begin with you have to drill down to them and there's not too it. here. thanks for. the drill vertically you don't drill straight so when askew yes ok yeah. there's terrible today i didn't even expected to be like this yeah usually the biting is good during the day but now i'm not so sure. i might have to leave this place.
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you're not going to get anywhere if you don't have the right bait and we brought a selection delicious maggots that we hoped would do the trick. for me look at the bottom. and this is the fish injecting in here so tap the bottom gently and slightly live the lawyer to them a little bit attract the fishes attention very probably and leave it there the fish will come out to eat it. and see if we can get on these. as will fishing patience is key but conditions were getting worse and even in my thick clothes i was starting to feel cold. with the winds getting stronger better wrap ourselves in plastic ok it's easy to freeze out here a warming up afterwards is the hard part ok all right easy there you go.
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and they realize it was going only because i couldn't figure dorian old i've never actually been out on a lake with this much wind blowing around me but it hasn't ha felt. specially bearable now. whether it'll make the fishing any easier and. wrapped up in a makeshift tents we did our best dog no impressions and settle in for the long haul but almost an hour later the fish still weren't biting. grigori if you caught anything not got nothing nothing at all or so we do then maybe we'll go home. the we'll see about it of course ship and. i'll try. not to think the phones dead or maybe it's frozen ok. but you know the timetable
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when is it. yes goes i told them i'd call to say one to come and that they shouldn't come till i phone them. seriously what are we going to do than you do on those and on those it's not we must know that we're here but we're not staying here. what do you mean they know me and don't worry when i'm here . gettig how far away is the bank. well twenty five kilometers you know what let's go to the shore right now will decide what to do next there is just too dangerous to stay here right now. for the careful take off the plastic bag there you go. maybe we'll just follow the whole across trucks and it will work why you see we're going to when we have you know everything is covered with drifting snow you won't find the road try looking for
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footprints they're all gone. the main thing is to manage until it gets dark ok do we have any food with us. yeah we got t t t that's it. oh yeah nothing to worry about. i couldn't quite believe is the visibility was down to almost zero and i had no choice but trust gregorios judgment. one thing was for sure we needed to find some shelter before the light faded completely. everything will be fine. believe you. after a long hike we made it to the edge of the lake on a bank of reeds it meant that we were nearly off the ice and out of that winds but
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moving on a sledge was becoming far more difficult. the forest loomed up in front of us and clearly something had been there before us. yeah what you think that was so far the folks at fox footprints there are all kinds of tracks here. out of animals big ones. own crimes only. to disappear the bears are all hibernating we don't have any problems with walls because there's not much snow so it's easy for them to find food. to scared people too they just don't surround. this is really the first bit of luck we've had all day is the temperature seems to have risen and the wind is definitely die down. what we're going to do you know i'm not entirely sure but these from corey knows this area. of
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philly he's got a plan. james were looking for pine tree trunks make sure that there are no needles on them for trees with green needles ok if there's even one green needle it means the trunks got too much liquid inside it and they won't burn well we need dry wood dry wood. you see even these big ones are pretty hard to knock down. in the forest trees simply don't know where they stand and with a few good tugs down they come. to look can you see the two trees growing next to each other. so it's not as if you take a branch with the with put it between them and bend it like this it will break. pretty easy. once we had enough kindling we could start to prepare. but that wasn't the only problem we were facing that how exactly we were going to get it started.
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now we have to build a fire out of this. good i will go back to the understanding touch your lips to where you are if it's warm to the touch and doesn't make your lips called that means that it's dry. also this one is basically dry and that's just what we want to know very carefully make wood shavings which we're going to need a little bit of the shavings are extremely important especially right now. we're making a bow with the string if you were. if you want to so it will roll the string around the spindle. and then will place the other end of what a ball is into the stick with this board it will start spinning it in year three c.m.'s not the fictional he took the wood enough for this stuff this small wood shavings built up to start small very. b.s.e. then have a license i. i will tell you i don't know i gave up smoking that's good. make
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it longer longer longer. this one two one two one two one two one two one two one two one two. there goes good good good keep going. keep going keep going that's good keep going come on go go go go go go go. i was beginning to think sled rope might be one of the most useful tools in the world they say there's no smoke without fire. looks like they were right. you know. easy. careful careful. cardboard branches quick. good good. that's going to it's good.
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well done excellent. well done. put some branches on top. go finally we had a little fire started but we needed to keep it going and the collection of small branches we had wasn't going to do the trick we needed to think bigger and once again our sled broke was going to be the key. it's all about finding the rhythm. although you do need a bit of luck to. careful. let's go. we only miscalculated. well. if luck fails physics will have to do.
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yeah baby. yes it looked like we were going to freeze to death to come over horribly clear that we're going to have to spend the night out here. i've been gathering these reeds which will this is. some kind of mattress for us at least. to get some. to put on top to make it. vaguely comfortable. this is a roof to protect you from the snow ok the fire will keep you warm and this roof will keep you dry when it snows but that's all right. take the log move it to the middle of the bonfire a little bit more a little bit more again ok when these two logs start burning they'll produce some heat and you would know what that is they'll give off heat but the flames are going to climb up words. so you're not going to feel any of it. if you put one more log
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on top of the fire burn the log and spread the word sideways. slowly like this. yeah that's good. perfect everything will start burning soon. i'm soaked through. and let me stream the hungry but at least soon i'll be drawing and really all things considered. it could be a lot worse just hope that. living in these forests stays well away from us. cities close. a military alliance without a mission this is what critics say about the north atlantic treaty organization
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nonetheless nato continues to expand and all pointing to moscow and russia's security expands as the crisis in ukraine given nato a new lease on life. i think. we're going to go digital the price is the only industry specifically mentioned in the constitution and. that's because a free and open process is critical to our democracy but golfers. will. in fact the single biggest threat facing our nation today is the corporate takeover of our government and across the semi-colon we've been hijacked lying handful of powerful transnational corporations that will profit by destroying what our founding fathers one still just my job market and on this show we reveal the big picture of what's actually going on in the world we go beyond identifying the problem for trucks and rational debate and
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not just you but still we can still be just everything you see the stage eight look easy to see which was featured on the stand. in line. we made it through a long night and neither of us was the worse for wear apart from my rumbling stomach. breakfast was a top priority. grigori is right here live. what
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time is it we're fine. damn. no cocoa i suppose you sleep. well you are sleeping in for a few more logs on the fire inspector. when a minute. do you know what shelf fungus is. so you heard of it yeah i've been in the forest collects them yes i saw this whole mushroom over there is some snow right now and you bring the shell fungus over ok yes or no much can you make some see there ya make tea out of it will add some pine needles make it taste good because i'm hungry like an elephant in the next one really will it will it so . i set off in search of some elusive food with the ground covered in snow i was never going to find anything on the forest floor the higher up you never know. at least we were going to be short of something to drink while i
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was a foraging grigori was collecting water for at sea. although in this case of course you have to melt it first. and the last i found what i was looking for. you really can't spend too much time in russia without learning a little bit about mushroom taking in the forests one of the favorites. but. this fungus actually that grows on the tree for some reason makes great and. gives a very. very good to health quite frankly i would pretty much he said right now. i'm trying. loading up my pockets back at the camp grigori was getting the tea on the boil.
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which. james. why does it take you so long. the water is almost boiling. them. very. well they're excellent take some great well done all right. and the really good right now. will add some pine needles. chop and adam. just so you'll be surprised but there was another surprise in store for me too and i wasn't very happy about it i just threw corey what the hell is that. here's the thing james if we had eaten as yesterday we'd be hungry right about now. i would only.
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everything's fine don't worry about it because i said i was hungry as an elephant didn't i just because we're going to eat this and i'll give us enough energy to get back home ok. i don't care anymore was the closest please i have finished i'm dying here let's not use this knife reminded of her something else later. in her the waste open and that was pretty easy actually i do know how to tear open tunes with your hands. hundred percent neck. i thought he was joking but apparently rigor he didn't want to risk ruining our only knife. i never seen him out open a can with his bare hands before but when you know this hungry there's plenty of motivation to do it quickly.
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there in these folds very weak but they are going to keep stretching the metal brakes up that's what's going to happen right now so. that is initially it's a lot harder to do but will break it into two well. the first of the better. and there you go. all we have to do now is take the porridge out. to me five. say that's not. james doing the knife now we really do need it it's true. in the morning we can use it as porridge for the pot. just be careful stirring the porridge. you shouldn't put dry poured straight into the
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pot by the way as it'll burn. flour this is a fish bait made from used to doe same kind of dough that used to make bread. i fish an expedition into out the way we wanted but at least we still got some bait so i'll take a look takes on it and we can if you want just eat as you enjoy eating it we can wrap around a stick like this. here a bacon now to. our right there we go and we'll leave it here to cook. how is it. that's a twenty four as with. you're exaggerating a little come on us is raising. beautiful. so. how do you know all these they do grow up in the forest or something yeah.
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i'm a tourism instructor for white water slalom. kids out on various expeditions so i have to know these kinds of things. i always teach children and i have to be sure that they'll be able to find their way out of something happens to me. that's almost my job my occupation. so what are you doing. number we need a compass we just we don't know exactly where we are right now but it is there even scraps of our stretches all the way from north to south seattle you. mean if we happen to be on an island at the moment we could be in either shore so if we walked at right angles to the shore we could end up in god knows where literally the middle of nowhere that's why we need a compas that we can at least figure out exactly where the opposite shore is here i
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remember to do this for a visit the physics is always open. right now we're going to bend it into a hook. just a slight bend will do. after we warm up properly will magnetize it. all right and you can see that it's gotten a little softer. now we're going to magnetize that the tip of a knife always has an electric clarity doesn't really matter if it's a positive or negative charge the important thing for us to do right now is just to gently scrape it. will slightly inserted in like this. turned out great now we've got a miniature compass the only thing left to do though is place it on water and we're done. that's where they take a look just almost the hook is magnetic. it's sitting on the float because the float doesn't let the hook touch the sides of the ball. so take
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a look i'm putting it here. and it starts floating. here we have our magnetic rhydian. this is our perpendicular line. well storm we can easily cross reservoir in this direction and that's just what we're going to do . so we should go this way if you can so no we need to go where you know this way over here if you pay attention you'll see the shore goes sideways if we were to go there we would end up in the middle of nowhere so we can't go there we have to go in this direction it's good that i noticed it yep that's all go. it was time to see if we could find a way to actually get home and we loaded up on sledge with fuel for a signal fire if we made it out to the center of the lake we've made some weights drawer attention to ourselves but that wasn't the only problem we'd have to face. ah what what what what. james take it off.
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how did you get there i passed and everything was fine. calm down it's all right everything's fine we'll fix you up can we make a fire or something i need to pull my foot. yeah you don't need to take your shirt of. it's fine. do your foot. don't put it here and finds all right everything's fine. there you go. wow what an adventure we've had g.'s in the snow for everything's fine.
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my improvised boot was slippery but at least i could move i was going to be stuck in the forest for another nice finally almost a day after we arrived we were back in the center of the lake i was tired and sore but i knew we'd have the best chance of being seen now and i have the precious embers that would help us light a signal fire it was time to attract some attention. with alright let's start a fire quick. did you hear anything oh yeah. that sounds very familiar when you start a fire you should cover it with branches to create some smoke. ok to call here just a sec. all right. james put the branches on top so you have to operate here down and press them. yeah harder go on go on.
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till definitely says no. but. if you noticed. that everything's fine everything's fine james to see this james i want to put you at ease with what you have made the weekend we spent together was just a prank. usable you'll remember this for the rest of your life this was survival school one o one for you know when you're rushing. you know i'm going to kill you. all right when we get back you can kill me if you was fine fine i'm just some please to see these people right now. ok go. be careful. yes there are some lakes a beautiful in winter. but beware of fisherman playing
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tricks or you might get a lot more than you bargained for. one on your interviews you compare its present day syria to disband his civil war thousand nine hundred thirty six saying that fascism is now spreading all over the country what does the syrian fascism look like and her is leading the charge as they represent a new type of fascism in my view. it's not only about the atrocities the rebels have been committing for example cutting people off carving their hearts and beating them that's just the surface but more importantly they represent the interests of global capital.
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in the head lice and a financial repressing nil by mouth defeating force feeding center banking command a console a. march consumer of the season i see it many in the country is the federal government simply say's robert siegel the united states government. is the united states numbered image when it was going to the public has to realize it can't just by. just throw it away . for instance belongs to the united states environmental protection agency and i found this on a dump site here this is going here it's not a waste of luminal the producers of these literally i think should be able to look at least i believe the vision responsible for the cradle to grave.
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security nato puts years of drug and terrorism corp at stake as it suspends ties with russia over ukraine while planning to boost its military presence in eastern europe. we have to quickly find ways to back away from what has been said it's the silliest and the most idiotic decision and statement that could have been made in. the global. south from the current standoff as a corporation is likely to want to send the drug crimes in afghanistan the world's biggest supplier i would not call takes. more than three decades of war and instability in afghanistan you'll have drug production all this illegal opium economy is a lifeline for thousands of afghan farmers but also funded drug traffickers and the
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taliban a problem that extends far beyond this country's borders. also this hour for the first time in history. hearings are getting some of the country's top officials over their conduct in lebanon and gaza bush claimed hundreds of civilian lives. and on a lighter note a city girl in some measure path for touring in siberia. zaid goes on a dime and. hello and welcome to all seem to national twenty four hour news live from moscow i'm sure national main story now nato is suspending all military and civilian cooperation with russia while beefing up its presence in eastern europe in response to the ukrainian crisis that's despite moscow's claims that it's withdrawing troops from
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its border with ukraine where they've been massing for drills. looks now at how nature decision is pushing much more than just relations between the lines and russia at stake. by suspending military and security cooperation with russia nato has also put the brakes on a twelve year relationship initially created to keep the world safe for. europe america and russia bear the unfortunate scars of terrorism and also share the common goal of battling against extremists nato members and moscow regularly exchange information and hold consultations on various aspects of counter-terrorism in the past russia has even provided ships for nato is maritime counterterrorism operation. moscow and the alliance have also joined forces to remove and
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dismantle syria's stockpile of chemical weapons by funding and providing technical assistance for the disarmament process. for six years nato was allowed to ferry essential supplies through russia to its troops in afghanistan and in two thousand and twelve moscow granted the alliance unprecedented access to road and rail networks as well as its airspace to transport vital military hardware to its forces battling the taliban. since two thousand and five the nato russia council has been jointly training counter-narcotics personnel from afghanistan pakistan and central asian countries as of october roughly three thousand officers have been ready to fight the drug trade emanating from afghanistan despite all this historic success nato has temporarily abandoned strategic ties with russia while choosing to align itself closer with ukraine these
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kinds of throwing up of walls rejecting relationships i'm not talking to you any more that kind of gamesmanship we have to quickly on the u.s. side on the night. no side and i think you heard this earlier with with the nato spokesman we have to quickly find ways to back away from what has been said it's the silliest and the most idiotic decision and statement that could have been made while moscow remains in a timeout nato is expected to step up cooperation with ukraine's armed forces by training officers joint exercises and promoting reforms right on russia's doorstep i think nato had always said that the cooperation with russia. matter of security but if you look at it if you look at the underlying reasons that if you look at their actions and reactions it's never been about security it's about
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containing russia's growth question is will nato be able to contain the growth of terrorism drug trafficking and the spread of biological warfare all on its own marina point r.t. . moscow has responded to nato decision to freeze cooperation saying it's reminiscent of behavior from the cold war and neither side will emerge victorious mater's decision to suspend civilian and military cooperation with russia gives a feeling of deja vu the very wording of the statement there's a strong resemblance to cold war old occasions it's not hard to guess who's going to benefit from scrapping russia and nato as joint work on counteracting modern threats anyway had stefanie not going to be russia or nato members nato has already reinforced it's a presence on its eastern borders stepping up air patrols over the baltic states and dispatching surveillance planes to poland and romania in addition also the
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baltic states have asked for thousands of nato troops to be stationed on their tab a trains and john white a writer and political commentator says portraying russia as a threat here is distorting the reality. what they're doing is they're trying to do for cause of war war george or this you know they're just to do. you know out of here over and a war which was a multi poor alternative is much better for everyone concerned the better so what they're doing is they're trying to reassure the media satellites that we're still able to protect our but protect them from walk to take them from democracy because the russian government has only restored the democratic rights were violated as a result of this illegal ukraine so the real threat to the stability of the region and to the future of those states concerned one of the baltic republics is from the
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west it's not from moscow afghanistan could fall victim to the political standoff between nato and russia in cooperation with moscow the alliance has been trying to curb the production of illicit drugs in the country i think it's to disrupt the production of illegal drugs in afghanistan have already caused the u.s. billions of dollars and yet it's not helped solve the problem in the slightest it almost seems the more money that flows into the country the more drugs flow out so europe russia america are on the receiving end let's now look at the figures reports ghana's town is responsible for around eighty percent of the world's opium heroin production has also said and is now four times higher than it was into sound and one more than one million users have died over the course of the past decade but the earnings from the trade clearly considered west is a waste of production and the lack of international dialogue could lead this business grow even further that's what one expert on the region told us. by far the
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main source for drugs are for. products that smuggled to europe and russia is actually afghanistan in the west and of course the us in particular have to set aside all their geopolitical interests when it comes to big global security russia in particular hands got a huge huge interest and stake in this process and differently they have to be taken into confidence and they have to be incorporated in there in the process if there is a lack of cooperation between russia and the west that will be a huge threat to europe's. security and also to the overall social stability more than half of all the provinces in afghanistan and growing poppy crops and adolescent calf and of course that's taken its toll on add on society. last year afghanistan recorded its largest opium harvest ever and the scene behind
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me tells a story of just how devastating that's been for the people here the men are part of a growing addiction epidemic according to the united nations more than a million afghans are addicted to opium and heroin out of a population of some thirty million people which makes against and not just the world's top export of the drug but one of its top consumers too despite more than a decade of western efforts to curb production a combination of economics and political instability has meant that farmers are planting more poppy than ever before more than half a million acres in twenty thirteen which according to the u.n. is a thirty six percent increase from the previous year and that's translated to big box again and then is believed to harvested nearly one billion dollars worth of the problem last year alone now this illegal opium economy is a lifeline for thousands of afghan farmers but it also funded the drug traffickers and the taliban a problem that extends far beyond this country's borders more than three decades of
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war and instability in afghanistan must rule the drug production and efforts to stop it simply haven't worked the u.s. has spent seven billion dollars to counter narcotics since two thousand and two another three billion dollars on agricultural programs they were supposed to hold grower switch to other crops but the bypass the united nations says nineteen of the country's thirty four provinces are now growing opium which also reflects an increase in recent years with the presidential elections around the corner along with the looming withdrawal of most foreign troops again it stands booming drug trade is a major concern with global implications and if western allies and the afghan government don't do more to topple production the fear here of the drug trade could splinter the country into a fragmented criminal narco state reporting in kabul for r t m d c cops know a time a bouncer signed boma times. the interior ministry in kabul leaving a number of people dead insurgents ramped up their efforts to disrupt the upcoming
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presidential election on the fifth of april in the run up to the poll watch our exclusive coverage about what the future holds for afghanistan. the people of afghanistan head to the polls for the first time since the fall of the taliban let alone both pave the way for the first ever democratic power of our. national media. so it's. a question of the european economy. how much will it cost us to turn its back on russian fuel the energy experts say we can come to ford and buy is thinking twice before slumping any sanctions on moscow. on full blast in a death sentence in pakistan saudi arabia now moves to punish heresy and atheism by
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law this is a big used to down on dissent to after the break. a military alliance without a mission this is what critics say about the north atlantic treaty organization nonetheless nato continues to expand an opening to moscow and russia's security expense as the crisis in ukraine given nato a new lease on life. if you refuse economic help down in the final. and the rest because i. believe if we.
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cool. welcome back saucy international told us and said to me today to discuss ways to end the energy dependence on russia the move will spawn by obama's promises to provide all the gas europe needs from america's own stockpiles but as one of the reports these pledges are going to be hard to keep . a united message from europe's top brass sanctions sanctions sanctions
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than to a missile sure we make sure that and acceptable actions will bear very serious consequences but when it comes to the use dependence on russian gas. the numbers speak louder than words around a third of the gas used to mystically in the new comes from russia industries like car production metal works in other heavy manufacturing our reliance on russian gas for power the potential solution is that europe could import american shale gas which washington has already offered there's no perfect free. ideal cheap energy sources the united states as a source of energy is one possibility but that throws up its own problems firstly the united states has no operational facilities to liquefied natural gas for
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transport secondly would take more than two million trips a year to satisfy europe's demand and only about four hundred of the gas tank is needed actually exist and then the cost of shipping supplies six thousand kilometers which would be huge. but before that can happen in europe we'll also have to spend years building vast networks liquid natural gas terminals and storage facilities and all that extra expense what effect will it have on gas prices the cost of gas delivered let's say here in the czech republic would be pretty much comparable to what today's today's price is a quick and easy solution to those european countries wanting to diversify away from a dependence on russian gas may sound too good to be true to some but when you speak to energy experts they'll tell you it's completely unfeasible when i think it's very legitimate that every country and also the e.u. looks for diversification but one has to be realistic and not to go with the
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populist everybody who claims there isn't a turn a tiff in the short run is falls in the fall in the short run and i would say definitely until two thousand and thirty we need russian gas and you're. the energy relationship with russia is just too important to industry and ultimately the economy to risk damaging all leaving the european union's tough talk on sanctions looking rather toothless peter all of a. there are always more stories for you now website of course saying a chemical provocation see when officials warn that rebels are preparing a future time and they plan to blame president assad's forces. also about a new mining no pushes and believe in what has to blockade roads and clash with police. interesting and unusual radios in the in motion section on the.
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right to see. first street. and i think. today for the first time in history an israeli court has had war crimes evidence against some of the country's top officials over their conduct in lebanon and gaza a verdict expected later today high ranking politicians and military has are alleged to have carried out unjustified killings collective punishment a tux all civilians oh he's politically a has more now on the charge. these refer back to two israeli launched operations in lebanon in two thousand and six and in
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gaza in two thousand and eight two thousand and nine the important points to make though is that this is the first time that this is happening here in israel and that despite this it is receiving very little coverage both in the israeli press and in the mainstream media we have contacted a number of lawyers and politicians as well as analysts and just about everyone has declined our request to be interviewed the charges are being brought by model one who is the only israeli lawyer to have served as a senior prosecutor in one of the courts at the international criminal court at the hague now he says interesting enough that there are israeli internal inquiries that looked into these operations in lebanon and gaza that actually give formal evidence that showed that these leaders wanted to intentionally hurt civilians or at the very least they intended to have no regard for the safety of civilians having
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said this shapiro who is a local journalist feels that very little is going to materialize in the courts over. and it has no meaning because the high court is also part of the occupation and war criminals are sitting in this court for example one of the new judges is essential or named norm sold bird he is a settler he is a part of a war crime he is a part of stealing land and maybe he will be charged more they can use this petition for good propaganda their decision will be that these leaders are not. there defending israel so for them this can be an excellent stage and the media will cover it. that report form paulus leer from tel aviv earlier on and just to remind you the lebanon rules were more than a thousand civilians killed with the overwhelming majority of the dead lebanese citizens and the same number of civilians were killed in the gaza operation in two
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thousand and days in which israel lost just three non-confidence. human rights groups are sounding the alarm over saudi arabia after heresy became punishable by law the country's declared atheism or questioning islam to be acts of terror in a new series of regulations said to be aimed against extremists in the country another article of the new law by and swearing loyalty to anyone except the country's rulers or contracts with any organization or contact with any organization which could be hostile to the sound of state made lives researcher adam cruel says the real purpose of these laws is to crackdown on dissent. this all started in late january when the when the first terrorism law was passed it included a very big definition of terrorism that included warnings such as insulting the reputation of the kingdom as terrorism. and that it was followed by a series of. ministerial regulations and i don't know that we have now you're going
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to use this complex of laws that they have every reason to believe that they probably will target more against people who don't and human rights are because just as much as we do with the border. and around the world news and brave this hour five people are now confirmed dead after an eight point two magnitude earthquake struck chile it also caused a tsunami that the country's northern government has ordered the entire coastline to be evacuated a tsunami warning has also been given impairing weather later lifted. please join your has been killed in the explosion outside the engineering facility in cairo university that's not which also killed a civilian target as security forces and left several high ranking police officers injured security forces have been guarding the compound after wissam clashes with students who have been demonstrating in support of the ousted president mohamed morsy.
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thank you very the force has had the e.u. is financial policy is one head to head with police on the streets of asses diviners destructed erupted despite a government buying grannies during a meeting in the greek capital on e.u. foreign ministers that come together to approve the next tranche of greece's bailout reforms adopted by the parliament had already sparked huge crowds. and pilots from germany's biggest airlines airline live towns that have started a massive strike that is tragic to last for three days almost four thousand flights around the country have been cancelled affecting hundreds of thousands of passengers around the world. the european union is sending a thousand strong peacekeeping force to the central african republic after french troops fail to stabilize the situation there at least seventy thousand people have
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been displaced by ongoing sectarian violence that's left thousands dead but journalist i had johnson told us he feels peace is not the primary goal of european armies in africa the french. where coming on the back end or as fast there as there is so it's a victory in mali but i'm not being caught out significantly in the central african republic because of the problems which have been so acute and of course they've been. they've not been able to address the problem which is why been sorted assistance from their european allies which is also showing that they don't have the capability to solve a problem that they know very little about an alternate he or what you do find is that for the friend jackie least they're trying to we don't want to lost influence in the world trying to ensure that their companies are more to nationals to control in terms of the true truth you know rules that you know exist on the ground and
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alternately and we know that the french are great keen to. influence their own brand of democracy. on the part of the well especially in the central african republic right now. and second say that some of the world's best and therefore most expensive and luckily for russia it has banks of them but to turn the rule material into a shiny masterpiece is quite a task is to balance a so why south how every girl's dream gets its finishing touch. fragments of stars tears of the guards and of course a girl's best friend. with the wedding bells just around the corner for me there was nothing more i wanted to do than shop for
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a little bit of sparkle and of course every bride wants to know where a diamond comes from and the diamond found in the east of siberia is a cut above the rest. of the sense of so many of us you could see in diamonds are valued around the world mainly of just their cars every type of card has a different number of facets and stones which gives it a special play in the light these are the most expansive and clean stones that every girl dreams about in one of russia's most remote and coldest cities a great treasure lies beneath the diamond mining for diamonds first started here fifty years ago in just a few weeks ago this was deep underground. the process of diamond for duction begins with purchasing the rough diamonds this is what rough diamonds look like more or less analysis is made to decide what kind of shape it will be and what kind of cutting and polishing will be applied yet goods the diamond company is well
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known for the cuts of the stones the polish and design i was eager to see the food process from rough to ready. and this is what we end up with. this is a three carat cut and design is dazzling but something more modest is up my alley the search continues for the perfect awaiting ring but in the meantime i can take a little something home. i think it looks perfect to mom would say sparkling away siberia party. and has a day necessity means a luxury as time reports on the production and also culture say around the traditional wearing fur in a one of the wilds called us regions. and coming up next peter lawwell debates one of the initial goals of nato much today's politics as the
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hello and welcome to crossfire for all things are considered on peter lobo a military alliance without a mission this is what critics say about the north atlantic treaty organization nonetheless nato continues to expand and according to moscow at russia's security expense has the crisis in ukraine given nato a new lease on life. to cross-talk nato i'm joined by my guest james carafano in washington he is the vice president of foreign and defense policy studies at the heritage foundation in paris
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we have john laughlin he is to director of studies at the institute of democracy and cooperation and here in moscow we cross to erich krauss he's an independent political risk analyst or a gentleman cross-talk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want john if i go to you first in paris very simple question what is nato's mission today. nato mission today is to justify its own existence in other words to do everything it can to strengthen its political membership and its military capability we've seen in the ukraine crisis a number of leading military men in nato rushing to say that this proves that the alliance needs to be tough and needs to have more boots on the ground more aircraft stationed in the east of europe and so on and i think that it has exploited as it were the ukraine crisis in order to justify its existence this really has been the story of the last twenty five years hasn't it since the end of the cold war when of course theoretically nato should have been dissolved after all the threat from the
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warsaw pact no longer existed but we've seen how on repeated occasions over yugoslavia over afghanistan most recently over libya the alliance has always sought ways of justifying itself and i think that this institutional self-justification of nato and secondarily of the european union has become one of the major points of tension now in east west relations ok and there was a lot said there james would in washington would you reflect upon what john just said in paris. well yeah i mean i think nato has missions pretty clear it's defined in the charter and it's been changed since it was proposed we have to remember there is so so no such thing as a nato force i mean the nato forces are simply the composite of all the member states so these states have sovereign forces which they use to protect them they use they they choose to join together to cooperate together that i don't think there's anything untoward about that i think it. is anything that suggests that
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nato exists just for the sake of existing it's a common bond between free nations that hasn't really changed its most fundamentally core since its inception ok eric and in moscow here i mean how do you connect nato to the rubbish ok we'll go back to you in a sec john erik will connect the dots for me nato and what's going on in ukraine there is something prime to face the absurd in the discussion which is that. not only does it not have the mission but it couldn't fulfill the mission if it had would we are living in a world of nuclear armed sovereign states they are not going to go toward each other there was never any question nato could have had all of the assets it want to do to in ukraine and that wouldn't have changed anything nobody is going to take the risk of having a shooting war break out between russia and the nato states simply because you
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don't know where it's going to go to where it's going to stop so you have a lot of careers which were built on the cold war a lot of people who would be a little like the war on drugs there'd be an awful lot of people who wouldn't have jobs if you stop the war so there is certainly i mean there are political conflicts there are problems between the west and the rising states and not just russia of the east and these at some point may come to a head but they're not going to be solved by tanks ok john you want to jump in there one point go ahead. you know i'm sorry i can't let what james carafano said parson challenge to it's quite wrong and misleading to say that nato purpose has not changed since the charter was written that's absolutely untrue the charter was written in one nine hundred forty nine but nato gave itself a new strategic concept in one thousand nine hundred one in one thousand nine hundred nine and again in two thousand and ten and the most important change
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occurred in one thousand nine hundred nine although it was prepared in the one nine hundred ninety one change when it declared that it was responsible for out of area actions and we saw this implemented in yugoslavia and that was a radical change with respect to the original purpose expressed in the charter because the charter provides for the defense of its members whereas out of area operations such as those that have been conducted over yugoslavia and libya are of course aggressive acts which have nothing to do with the defense of their member states so it's quite wrong for james carafano to try and mislead your viewers on that point ok james you want to react to what john said in paris. well you know first of all i'm a little puzzled about the whole conversation because if nato serves no purpose and it has no mission that i don't understand why everybody is really concerned about it it would seem that you would be kind of indifferent to the whole thing you're parsing my words i did say nato is fundamental purpose hasn't changed since the
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initiation start and that's right we got a whole separate discussion about area missions and and we might actually agree because i always thought that the out of area missions was a mistake in in not in the fundamental purpose of nato but and what nato should be doing i thought nato is primary purposes of defense of nato i think out a very missions are a bit of a distraction and i particularly think if you look at the contributions of the nato states and what they bring to the table out of area missions are are actually just practically unrealistic so we might actually agree that that the moving out of area missions was a mistake for nato and i would agree with you but to say that that fundamentally nato is purpose is different than it was when it was formed i don't actually believe that's a debatable point i'm sorry ok but it is different because it's because they too was formed to confront the documents than from the warsaw pact. pact no longer exists what is nato protecting europe against soviet
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tanks not about to roll into the streets of paris they'd never get to the traffic. there is no meaningful threat russia threatens no one except herself occasionally and if you're going to confront a threat going forward it's not going to be from russia it'll probably be from china at some point but i don't think nato is really involved in that front so what is it protecting you against. go ahead james i'm sorry i'm thoroughly confused and i know i'm just thoroughly confused and we're in the in the nato charter it says that the purpose of nato is to fight a war with the. we know that we're greece is that nato is a defensive alliance his primary purpose is to defend itself against whole ok all right let's keep going here i want to go to joe i want to go to john in paris that these are just one countries that choose to do this. you are going to talk about coalitions of the willing later gentlemen hang on i want to go to john here how
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does let's save a hypothetical expansion of nato protect its members ukraine georgia how does that make that it a more safe alliance for its members. well i mean if. first of all i don't think anybody is yet talking about ukraine actually joining nato there will be discussions about ways of bringing it into the orbit of nato by other means i think even for the hawks in warsaw and washington the actual inclusion of ukraine into nato would be a pretty big step is not what i'm anticipating although there have been some very aggressive sounds coming out of those two capitals how would it make it a better alliance the fact is that i'd like i want to i want to come back to where it crosses comparison with the war on drugs this is a self-justifying institution there are lots of people who whose careers depend on
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it so if you accepted in the hypothesis that you would accept to new countries that would generate a lot of sense of direction and impetus and would give a lot of people more jobs but of course it wouldn't make anyone safer no more than the attack on you. as made anyone safer i have to repeat it's a very important point the role of the alliance has changed radically since at least one thousand nine hundred nine and is no good obfuscating the fact just because you don't might not like these out of area operations they have now become on paper and in practice the primary function of nato and we see this in the ukraine. affair where the nato leaders and the secretary general have been making noises as if you crane were a member state threatened by a russian invasion frankly it's none of natives business games it's a good point what is why is nato getting involved in this in the affairs of ukraine it's not a member. first of all it's a i think the future of outer area operations for nato is dead i think that was
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a phase they went through and i think they don't have the resources to do it they don't they don't do it very well and i actually think that that's a thing of the past and nato go will go back to its i predict it will go back to more of its core mission of defending the members of the alliance i don't think the ukraine and georgia are are going to be members of nato anytime soon they don't qualify to be a member of nato you have to be a stable state without a territorial conflict that would that would add to the alliance and i think ukraine and georgia are far from qualifying for that eric you know we've talked about how nato has changed over the years would it change its charter to get georgia and ukraine in. i don't know but one of the guests a moment ago said that they were confused and i couldn't hear who it was but i share that feeling i am seeing the nato military alliance with with assets with means with political the only thing i see missing is an enemy is
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nato configured to oppose russia and if so who is russia threatening why do the coordinate those states need to be protected against a threat which disappeared twenty years ago you're talking about a defensive alliance but i just don't see where the threat comes from maybe i'm naive but i would like someone to like telling the like me that ok. can i go back to the show here if you look at it right if you look at him if you look at nato and you just exclude the nato overhead which is an emoticon love of jobs because anybody who thinks that nato is a jobs program i think that's a huge stretch or a money program because there's not big money there so if you strip away the near of the nato infrastructure which you basically have is the army navy marine corps of the member states so if nato magically dissolved tomorrow if i sat my fingers and said no nato countries would have the same arms that they do now so the mere
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existence of nato or not is really pretty ephemeral to all your concerns all right gentlemen i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that show for it we'll continue our discussion on nato stayed with archie. plenty of it was terrible they come up very hard to make out a little plan to get along here a plug that never had sex with the target their lives let's
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welcome back to cross talk we're all things are considered i'm peter lavelle joe mind you we're discussing whether nato has a mission. ok john i go back to you in paris the russians are very concerned about nato because as we've been played with said on this program already at the end of the cold war the wausau pact dissolved itself but nato didn't and a military alliance continues to get closer and closer it's already on russia's border and it could even get closer is it justified to be worried about it from moscow's perspective. i think so yes i mean i would. say that question by answering the question which erich krauss erich krauss put rhetorical just now he when he said who is the enemy he obviously thinks as i do that there isn't really an enemy and that russia isn't a threat but what we've seen in the last few weeks over ukraine and especially over crimea is the resurrection in the minds of nato policy makers of the idea of
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a russian fret or threat and this has given them a new lease of life and they're all rushing around saying that we need to deploy troops to the eastern european member states and so on and that we need even possibly to protect ukraine itself i think that this is an important development if you read to president obama's speech to the european youth given in brussels on the twenty sixth of march you will see that he has fallen back into an incredibly manichean i would say cold war way of seeing things in that speech he described how the world was defined divided into good and evil and on the good side you had europe and its american out growth which stood for liberty and on the other side you had russia which stands for the use of force brutality and all the rest of it the image that's being projected by nato politicians by european politicians by american ones is that russia is again an aggressive power they are saying again and again that russia is about to invade eastern ukraine that russia has invaded crimea
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and this is the big outcome i think of the ukraine crisis it is that this. this image of an aggressive russia where the russian tanks are about to roll over into the territory of a neighboring state as they did in one nine hundred fifty six and one hundred sixty eight that is the idea that is being put forward to justify giving nato a new lease of life james that it you know i know i've been looking at some of the statements coming out of nato as leadership in i can't help but feel that a bit of a sense of glee there joe we actually have something to do now when we actually have a new enemy are always the same enemy it's always the same. well i think that we should leap frog you know back in front of the ukraine crisis and we and look at what nato has been doing in saving saying over the last decade. dado as has had a high level dialogue with russia senior russian officials and leaders have been invited
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to address the nato summit nato force structure has not significantly evolved of anything it's decreased over time president obama has personally canceled part of our missile defense programs and scaled them back to russian concerns even though these programs had nothing designed to deal with russia's strategic systems or even their immediate systems so they build a case that somehow as you know nato is building a war drum against russia i mean it's pretty hard to believe that you have responded to people have responded to the ukraine crisis but i mean look at this from nato perspective when tens of thousands of troops are massed on the border the trans-atlantic community i mean i think it's a little unrealistic to say well people should just be indifferent go about their business so obviously they have expressed concerns but i think if you look at the long history of nato post cold war nato has gone out of its way not to create an adversarial relationship with russia and i think that somehow claiming that that's been the purpose all along and this is an alliance in search of
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a mission i simply think it's not true the alliance purpose is very simple it's to defend the alliance it's not to defend the ukraine it's not to defend georgia it's defend the member states of the alliance ok eric i think you want to jump in there go ahead yes i do i mean i think we're being a little naive here it is very clear i'm not sure if nato is doing it i simply don't know enough about the structure of nato certainly the western power elite. particularly driven by the contract or whatever in washington is pushing russia against the wall no one was threatened by russian troops there was no concern that russian troops were going to be in berlin. tomorrow the issue in ukraine was obviously an issue of particular concern to the russians it is a country which has been part of russia which russia has been part of for a thousand years it has a large russian population it is
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a complex story we don't have time to analyze it all here but first of all there was no russian threat to nato ukraine is not nato secondly there was never any possibility that russia was going to invade the ukraine they don't need to they're going to wait for the ukrainians to do it themselves but the what is insane what is clinically insane in all of this is that the west will ultimately be threatened by a rising power to its east and that power is not russia is a fundamentally conservative country and has been so for two hundred years yes they had a couple of brief periods of expansionism right after the bullshit bolshevik revolution in particular and then right perhaps after the second world war where they were looking to create a safety a buffer having been you know decimated and destroyed by european armies on two occasions in one century but other than that russia is a very conservative power china is not and why in their collective wisdom the
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european leadership and the american leadership have chosen to driven russia to drive russia into the arms of china i find in comprehensible john it was like to. go ahead james this is cross talk go right ahead james yes no no first of all you know i'd like to reject the notion that i'm naive you know i served twenty five years in the army i've been in foreign policy in the united states for a decade or so and i have a ph d. and you know and i deal with world leaders all the time so the notion that i'm naive i kind of reject and i actually do know a lot about nato's infrastructure what they do so i reject that this is a debate out of ignorance and i really reject the notion that somehow that there is a conservative movement the united states dry. in the united states driving nato against russia first of all this country is run by a democratic president and a democratic senate and a democratic secretary of state who are very much driving the debate and and i actually might disagree with their foreign policy but to argue that they're trying to mobilize nato against russia is simply not true this president's trying to
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defuse this crisis as quickly as possible i would argue that anything he's weakening the u.s. position in the way is doing that but he actually has no interest in a confrontation he just wants the whole thing to go away and here's my final and most important point if russia has no designs on the territory of a member state of nato then this is a simply a non debate because we're never going to have anything to argue about because if they're not going to threaten the the alliance and the article five commitments under under the nato charter that nato and russia are never going to have a problem and this is a meaningless conversation so what are they doing in ukraine why are why are they talking about ukraine why it's late it was one of the sale in the ukraine eric i don't know why why do you keep saying nato in the ukraine what nato forces are massed in the ukraine are there nato forces standing against the russian forces in the ukraine because that's what it seems like you're saying and i must be missing that. i that i am sorry that nato is now being used as
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a weapon to it is used as a political misnomer hard to attack russian interests we have nato generals but why. is this statements about russia about russian intentions about ghost armies the newspaper the telegraph said journalists to look for those russian armies and they couldn't find their invisible armies. maybe they're to worry or you know you that they would tell them you have to do something i don't understand what mary. and. john go ahead and parents you've been listening patiently go ahead john. no i mean i suppose i wanted to respond to something which james let slip he said that there were hundreds of thousands of or tens of thousands of russian troops are massing on the borders of the transatlantic community and i wasn't quite sure what you meant by that james if you
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meant the russian troops to deliberately massing on the russian border with ukraine then that was a bit of a freudian slip because precisely as eric has just said crane is not a member of the transatlantic community or is it may be. expected then as. it is on the order of the owner of the west the whole goal of the current european the court the political section of which was signed a week ago by the regime in kiev is precisely to bring. the ukraine into what you call the transatlantic community because by signing the agreement with the european union kiev has. undertaken the obligation to align its policy its foreign policy with that of nato it's important to remember that the foreign policy in the military policy of the european union is itself in virtue of the lisbon treaty legally bound to be aligned with that of nato so this is exactly what we are talking about and that is why the issue is so important ok james i mean one of the
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things i think i completely disagree or i go ahead james was not nato that's not required well look the e.u. is simply not nato and for example the united states is not a member of the e.u. so that somehow because the ukraine signs an accord with the e.u. it is not bound in accord with the alliance nato and the e.u. are two separate institutions and that's a factually incorrect james it is because of the lisbon treaty you have to look at the texts you have to look at the legal texts just like you have to look at the nine hundred ninety nine used to teach document there's no point confusing what you wish were the case with what is in fact the case on paper and in political reality james you want to wriggle out of that because the line. the way james let me give james the last word go ahead james so this is you know i mean this is you know simply ockham's razor is the word simply is true it's true right if the e.u. and nato were synonymous that we wouldn't have two separate organizations period ok eric last last word one is
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a political organization that is military they are linked by at any point when he did it to them it has been made to pressure russia and it is a very foolish act because what they are doing is they are strengthening the most conservative sectors in russia and i am hearing an anti western discourse which i have not heard in this country for many years as people feel that they will never get a fair hearing in the west that all right gentlemen i have to jump in here we have run out of time many thanks to my guest today in washington paris and in moscow and thanks to our viewers for watching us here are you see you next time and remember last time. he. was.
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