tv Interviews Culture Art Documentaries and Sports RT April 18, 2014 5:00pm-8:01pm EDT
coming up on r t complaints have grown over the u.s. electoral college presidential wins usually are based on votes from certain big states instead of a national popular vote but now there's a push to make a change more on that ahead. and vermont passes a bill to label genetically engineered food the bill passed in the state senate by an overwhelming majority a look at that another development on g.m.o. is coming up. and out in the cosmos a planet much like our own has been found the kepler one eighty six is the most earth like planet discovered so far so does it mean we're not alone more on that later in the show.
it's friday april eighteenth five pm in washington d.c. islands in france you're watching or to america. we begin by talking about the two thousand and sixteen presidential election no i'm not talking about speculation regarding who might run or a grandchild and how it might affect a certain candidates political ambitions instead i'm talking about a movement that's underway to fundamentally change how the u.s. aleck's its president every four years it's called the national popular vote the instr interstate compact movement and while that might sound like a complicated jumble of words it's actually a pretty simple idea the movement is trying to replace the current electoral college system the country uses to elect its president the simple national popular vote system as in whichever candidate gets the most votes around the country wins the presidency as we learned in two thousand with al gore winning the popular vote does not necessarily mean winning the electoral college and the white house the national popular vote movement wants to change that rather than pursuing
a constitutional amendment to scrap it which is very difficult and time consuming the group is trying to get a certain number of states to agree to a compact saying that they will all give their electoral college votes not to the candidate the wins their state but instead to the candidate the wins the national popular vote if the movement can get enough states to sign on by twenty sixteen then it would make the electoral college completely irrelevant before the next election and on and this week the movement got a big boost when the state of new york and its twenty nine electoral college votes signed on to that compact i was joined earlier by our political commentator sam sax to break down what all this means for american presidential politics the first asked him where this movement currently stands and how close it's coming to up ending the electoral college. well there are more than halfway there this national popular vote movement currently eleven states have signed on to it you mention new york they're the latest that also includes washington d.c. and if you have all of those all those states combined together have about one
hundred have one hundred sixty five electoral college votes the point is to get to two hundred seventy electoral college votes so you can get more states on board to get that number to seventy what would happen is all those states would agree together they would act as a voting block in the next election and they would say hey we're going to give all our votes to the candidate wins the popular vote not to the came to that wins each of our states and they'd be able to swing the election toward toward the candidate we know that the oregon house has approved this they might be the next state that doesn't so is the oklahoma senate has approved it those two states equal fourteen electoral college votes that could be added to that number and the governor of arizona jan brewer has said that she supports this idea so this could be another state the terms in the mix benchley to why get rid of the electoral college it's been around since the beginning of the country why don't we that's why because it's a bit outdated now i mean it was created more than two hundred thirty years ago now it was created along with the with the senate with each state getting two senators
was sort of a compromise to coddle to mollify small states and slave states who had large portions of their populations not counted toward representation so that this was the deal that brought them on board to the constitution to join the country but it's not very representative of the country because those two senators that all states get regardless of population factors into the states like total college vote count in small states have an outsized influence in electing the president and we've had four times in the country's history when you've had a candidate who's gotten the national popular vote but they've lost the election you mentioned al gore's most recent as most recent so nowadays has information is more readily available than it was two hundred thirty years ago you can devise a system so that the nash. the popular vote of the american people is respected window after the president ok so let's talk about making this change then the movement's effort is to use the interstate compact rather than a constitutional amendment explain the reasoning obviously behind this because it's
very complicated for them to do that yeah well this is actually this is a really good idea that they're going about this she talked about a constitutional amendment it's time consuming it's very difficult it's hard to imagine. post office renaming bills passing through congress nowadays let alone a constitutional amendment change which is what we would require congress to get on board that plus two thirds of states would then have to ratify some thirty eight states would have to get onboard that that's basically impossible to do right now this movement though if you can get enough states that equal two hundred seventy electoral votes and that could be as few as fifteen states if you pick the right states with the right amount of electoral votes all the way up to you know fifteen to twenty to thirty either way it's less than the thirty eight you would need to get two thirds the change the constitution so you're getting the same effect but you're doing it with a lot less work out a little more effective to stand out assuming that this movement succeeds how will it change the future of presidential candidates in this country i mean right now we all know the election system here especially with the media coverage it's like
a circus constantly covering the electoral college and i think like that was a circus but it's a circus that's merely focused on just a small amount of states right now the presidential elections are focused on about twelve battleground states like florida like michigan like ohio those are the states you heard constantly in the last election and they have the electoral votes that can just swing an election here and there and i think we have a map that shows these were mitt romney and barack obama's k. official campaign events post the convention in two thousand and twelve and as you see they were relegated to just twelve states and in fact two thirds of all the the visits were in just four states so we could fewer to change the national popular vote rather than electoral college these candidates would have to go all around the country they'd have to turn out their vote in every single state not just the battleground states you see democrats going to texas where they can hopefully get democrats to the polls and democrats wouldn't have their votes outweighed by the by the republicans about states that would open up the game considerably that's
a lot of time spent on the campaign bus to our goodness all right our typical commentator sam sacks thank you jacki. a criminal case against a former blackwater security guard charged in the two thousand and seven killings of fourteen iraqi citizens is in jeopardy an appeals court ruling earlier this month effectively terminated that manslaughter attempted manslaughter and weapons charges against nicholas slaton who is described by prosecutors in court papers as one of the lead participants in the shootings saddam's lawyers say the charges against him were dismissed in two thousand and nine and that the government failed to ask an appeals court to reinstate them they argue that too much time had elapsed when the government obtained a new indictment against slaton late last year the government afraid those loopholes could lighten his sentence is seeking a rehearing of the issue before the june eleventh trial begins for slatin and three other former blackwater guards accused in the case in a court filing in april the legal team for the four men said that the on september
sixteenth two thousand and seven their client went to new source square traffic circle where they came under attack and returned fire the guard's employer blackwater worldwide even provided prosecutors with photos of the guards vehicles parked in streaked with bullet marks but the government said it will establish at the trial that slaton fired the first shots in that incident. a military judge has ordered the cia to give lawyers for the man accused of planning the u.s.s. cole suicide bombing which killed seventeen u.s. sailors back in two thousand a chronological account of his whereabouts from the day of his capture in dubai in two thousand and two to his arrival in guantanamo bay prison in two thousand and six experts say the request to reveal information about the overseas detention interrogation of forty nine year old a dollar a game on nashiri is likely to produce a drawn out legal fight rather than release the information pentagon prosecutors are likely to ask military commissions appeals court to overrule the judge this is
what rick kamen nashiri civil attorney told the miami herald the prosecution's argument that the defense is precluded from checking the government's work is frivolous one of the defense functions is to check the government's story even if the prosecution does security information it doesn't mean the public will ever see it the request includes names of agents interrogators medical personnel interrogation notes and cables between these so-called black sites and the headquarters that approved and hence the interrogation techniques the man many called the architect of those techniques the retired air force psychologist james mitchell has broken his silence in the guardian newspaper over u.s. torture techniques. and good if. great programs in other. words.
and while other guantanamo detainees are being prosecuted abuse has taken center stage as lawyers for a college chick muhammed and four others charged over the nine eleven attacks said they are seeking similar orders to uncover their interrogations. after the four way emergency talks in geneva top level diplomats from the u.s. the e.u. ukraine and russia agreed on a path to deescalate the violence raging through the east of ukraine with the organization for security and cooperation in europe tasked with monitoring the situation on the ground it's reported that pro russian protesters occupying ukrainian government buildings in more than ten cities say they won't leave them until the country's interim government resigns at the same time ukrainian authorities have imposed unprecedented travel restrictions on russian citizens all men aged sixteen to sixty traveling without families are now denied entry into the country the move hasn't gone down well with the east of ukraine as artie's rif a national reports from one of the area's transport hubs. this is the net's
international airport to this is departure hole as you can see we only expect flights to kiev and turkey istanbul but every day there is at least one fly go in from here to morse code and the reason least one or sometimes even two planes flying from moscow to the net and now people are worried about what is going to happen with these flights and with the passengers of these flights. i really have to move immediately stop the interest. they started asking me about my education how much money have them they told me i had to go back to school by myself from donetsk my son lives. and that's what my best friends relatives missed his wedding because their age and physical condition are now suspicious to ukrainian border control officers if they find came a close or military boot in your luggage the immediately think you are
a russian agent and we are called separatists were peaceful protesters much more peaceful than those who rallied. we are against the true truce actions of the ukrainian authorities the people for once these two states have very close ties and of course these concerns very clear and very all various ukrainians have many russian relatives russians have many ukrainian relatives in the travel a lot to visit each other and of course they are now afraid with these new restrictions from ukraine's border control it will affect their relations with their families. our tea from donetsk in ukraine. a cairo university has become the center of unrest in the egyptian capital clashes between students supporting the post president mohamed morsi and police flare up on a weekly basis the institution has had back kicking some nine hundred students out
of classes for protesting as r.t.l. true reports from cairo. a protest turns into fierce street battles with security forces a common sight in cairo but now the weekly rallies in support of toppled president mohamed morsi are being led by students the military installed government has bans demonstrations saying it is fighting a spike in terror attacks undergraduate was held after an exam in january he says the police are using too much violence the officers came in three hours after the clashes and took students from inside the university those that were taken were torturing inside the police station they were keeping them in the toilets and and he believes men would be there mark it was like ritual. rights defenders say the crackdown is a tactic of intimidation by the authorities that have surrounded the country's main universities with offices less to kill more than thousand students were arrested some of them are long term sentences their fear that has gripped universe just
means a halt to the educational process here at cairo university are many fatal clashes between prime o.c. students and security forces just last monday an undergraduate mohammad addle was shot dead becoming the fourteenth students to die since last september critics say this is the worst crackdown since ousted president hosni mubarak however the authorities maintain it is the young protesters who are to blame for the violence by the mizzen brotherhood's now declared a terrorist organization by the sates egypt's interior ministry says the students use weapons and are part of the brotherhood planned to destabilize the country. they're using the students inside of the universities and encouraging them to riot and use violence targeting the maximum amount of police cars and transporters of soldiers and burning them for the purpose of weakening and their moralizing the police forces but assam insists he is not in the brotherhood and people are being arrested for no good reason i'm afraid to be
a student averages go to the university and i know i can be taken. exams are just a few weeks away and will coincide with the presidential elections the next army chief sisi is expected to win with little hope of reconciliation and anger against the government mounting the country is bracing for more months of violence true for r t cairo. and this may sound crazy but breaking news alert cops in hawaii soon will no longer be able to sleep with prostitutes while on duty both chambers of the hawaii state legislature have agreed to restore and line in a pending bill that will make it illegal to have sex of prostitutes during an investigation currently hawaii police are exempt from all prostitution laws house bill nine hundred sixty two was written to change that while until the chairman of the house judiciary committee heard the honolulu police department side of the story they told him vice officers needed the exemption in law to prevent pimps and prostitutes from knowing the limits of police methods yesterday roads changes minus
of the bill will return to its original language but police say their current internal policies prevent officers from abusing their legal right to have sex with prostitutes but said they'll drop their opposition to removing the exception the house and senate will now compile their two versions of the bill and one document vote and send it on to the governor. the vermont senate is pushing the envelope were genetically modified food is concerned and passed a bill on wednesday that would make it the first u.s. state to enact mandatory labeling of foods made with genetically modified organisms known as jam mouse and it would make it illegal to describe any food product containing g.m.o. says natural or all natural the bill approved twenty eight to two by the senate has already passed the state house of representatives it goes back to the house for approval of changes made in the senate now if passed the law would take effect july first two thousand and sixteen according to the national conference of state legislatures there are g.m.o.
labeling bills under consideration in twenty nine. it's whether they have a chance of being passed is anyone's guess but the high stakes food fight back in two thousand and twelve ballot measures in california and washington state were narrowly defeated among the opposition monsanto the world's largest seed company and the grocery manufacturers association and industry group representing packaged foods which include huge amounts of the genetically modified canola soybeans and corn for more on what the labeling law could mean for the future of g.m.o. foods in the u.s. i was joined earlier by stacy malkan who worked on california's right to know campaign advocating the labeling of g.m. most in this state i first asked her why the labeling law is needed in vermont. well this is a huge victory and vermont and it's really the culmination of a grassroots movement across the country that's been really going on for twenty years but has been building intensely in the last few years like you said since two thousand and twelve when we ran the ballot initiative in california this is
information that consumers want to have over ninety percent of people consistently say in poll after poll that they want g.m.o. is to be labeled in the u.s. like they already are in sixty four other countries but we haven't been able to get labels here because of huge money dirty campaigns by monsanto and the pesticide companies that are desperate to keep this information off food labels so vermont is really a huge breakthrough and i think it's really the beginning of the crack in the down that's going to result in. simple information going to consumers that we want about the food that we're eating. well the two bills in california and one and one in washington back in two thousand and twelve we're narrowly defeated if vermont goes through could be then see a cascade of these bills being enact it into state law. absolutely i think that's already happening i think california was the start of it we ran
a ballot initiative here also in washington state the opposition spent over seventy million dollars trying to defeat those bills and they just barely defeated them so those were votes of the people in vermont this is a vote of the legislature and many other states are trying to get bills through the legislatures every state huge support like i said we're running a bill here in california and i think we'll also see some more ballot initiatives this year it looks like oregon and also possibly colorado will take a vote to the people the movement is just not going to let up people want to know about g.m.o. from the food we're eating we have a right to know what we're eating and make those choices for ourselves. and i think this movement for labeling is unstoppable. last week a bill was introduced in congress that would attempt to nullify any state law that requires jemma labeling this is large and largely backed by a lot of grocery manufacturers as you probably know all states be able to overcome
national legislation backed by such industry powerhouses well that is such a cynical and truly outrageous ploy that they're trying in washington d.c. they did get a sponsor for that bill but there is no way they're going to get that bill through the house and senate there are strong champions in washington d.c. for general labeling many senators who are committed fully to getting labeling of g m o's and so i think they're going to try in every way they can that particular bill would make it illegal for states to pass labeling laws which is outrageous i would also do other outrageous things like allow them to call g.m.o. as natural which they obviously are not the vermont law that is very close to passing looks like they will also be making that illegal to call g.m. most natural so you know it's a truly important time for this fight right now because they're pushing hard in
d.c. they're spending so much money in every state that's trying to pass labeling but we're seeing that people's movement is prevailing i don't think they can win in d.c. and i don't think they can win much longer at the state level people want to know what's in their food and i think that will win this well it's now turn to the world's fastest growing corn market china of the past few months countries been refusing refusing a shipments of the u.s. crop when any genetic modification has been detected in the shipments some are questioning china's motives whether it's political or not but the truth is china and europe big trading partners for us they don't want these jim of products do you think refusing exports it comes at such a huge price. the farmer stu see these market forces could drive us ag companies to change their tune. oh absolutely i think farmers are very nervous they're seeing what's happening in china or russia also doesn't want g.m.o. exports to france just ban the cultivation of g.m.
most mexico too when there is a global movement away from g.m. most with many other countries as i said either labeling or banning them and we've already seen this play out with the wheat market eight billion dollars in u.s. wheat exports were put at risk when genetically modified wheat turned up in oregon a couple of years ago and it's not even legal to grow but it shows how out of control dmoz can get the genes get into the system and you you can't predict where they're going to go and end up i think a lot of farmers are nervous about that they're nervous about organic farms getting contaminated by g.m.o. that's becoming a big problem so i'm starting to hear a lot from farmers from ag interest saying that farmers are moving away from g.m. most that the demand for conventional seeds is growing faster right now than they can fill it so i think we're seeing a huge shift that's coming from many areas market pressure consumer demand and also
the food companies are starting to get nervous about having g.m. most in their food and some of the big brands are starting to move away from them to. environmental health advocates stacie market thank you very much thanks so much . do you know what an earth size exoplanet in a habitable zone means well it means as soon as we're done with earth we can jet over to a new home in another galaxy that's right the kepler one eighty six f. is the fifth outermost planet discovered orbiting the red dwarf star kepler one eighty six and for any viewers looking for new real estate it's located four hundred ninety of light years away it's been found in the stars habitable so-called goldilocks zone the narrow belt where liquid water could exist on a planet surface without freezing or boiling away scientists say that while it's difficult to tell it appears to be more than a few billion years old and because of its small size and its close proximity to its star kepler one hundred six f.
which is about the size of earth can't be observed directly with current telescope technology but hopefully as technology advances that'll change so you can take a good look at where we all might be living in the future if things don't turn out so well here before we go don't forget to tune in at nine pm for larry king now tonight's guest is country music legend willie nelson here's part of the interview . i know you're an advocate for the legalization of marijuana by the way there are probably three sure things in life death taxes and marijuana is going to be legal there is a poll a pew research poll released today three out of four americans favor the full legalization of marijuana did you ever think that would happen you know now you know i thought maybe eventually it would when people wised up to that story looking at it. plus realizing that there's some money there somebody make and you know damn right up to the criminals are making there so what's got you started smoking well i
started out when i was a kid smoking anything i could get. cornsilk to go see your barbecue. and then roll up your store rolling up border you small degree day i don't think i've missed a day in years really so it's a habit well i think it's a good habit for me you know i don't recommend it for anybody you know but for me it seems to help me. turn it at nine pm here on our team america that does it for now for one of the stories we covered go to youtube dot com slash our to america and check out our website our to accomplish usa also follow me on twitter and see fronts see back at eight pm thanks for watching. this was the washington well it's a relief. to believe. he's a. candidate. for so you are going to leave that to me doesn't do too
much for our revenue my own tax our culture johnny and the song seventy six year old american farmer the studio fallout do you think he's going to create for the cia do you think is what's triggering a great facility but it's also the largest debtor nation. pretty much that is mostly of alternative stuff one might give you all the way to working for the american dream the next they would just buy the strip by this time for americans and lawmakers are forced to wake up and start talking about the real causes of.
the u.s. government is funding a program in the czech republic to teach islamic kids there isn't then nice our government is just so god. the project is called muslims in the eyes of the czech schoolchildren speaking spearheaded by a muslim advocacy group but it's being financed by american taxpayers for a grant from the u.s. embassy in pa i said americans your tax dollars are going toward teaching check kids about islam that's exactly what's bursting your agenda i'm sure. the advocacy group says the project is just about teaching check schoolchildren about. common beliefs and practices and fighting stereotypes and prejudices about muslims one of the co-founders of the project was quoted by the prague post as saying school lessons do not pay sufficient attention to islam pupils want to learn more about it
. but critics say the project's real underlying objective is to convert non muslim children to islam by bringing pro islamic messages into public schools they don't believe the co-founders words that kids are just dying to learn about islam through they point to the fact of the group actually went in head promising to pays student between the ages of fifteen and eighteen about thirteen bucks for agreeing to attend a two hour presentation about islam that the kids are so hungry to learn about islam then why would you have to pay them to do so it doesn't add up so the logical question to ask now is why the hell is the us doing this it probably has a lot to do with the fact that as the muslim population grows in the czech republic so do tensions with the population at large extremism grows people start heated battle over women wearing head garrett over books
a message in the group own website even said that the muslim community in the czech republic is small but it raises the wrong conclusion. many see this u.s. funded program as just another way to stir up those emotions the stabilize a country sure the u.s. could be but in the program because it just isn't. good to bask in religious glory but it's more likely that our government is just trying to stir crap they do it all the time so it shouldn't come as a surprise it's just maddening to hear every time they do it because us taxpayers we pay for it out of our pocket but is it the people in the countries we messed with pay for it with their blood tonight let's talk about that. and how he can twitter add the rest.
i know c.n.n. the m s m b c news have taken some slightly but the fact is i admire their commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be accurate. that was funny but it's close and for the truth and might think. it's because one whole attention and the mainstream media work side by side the joke is actually on here. at our teen years we have a different brain. because the news of the world just is not this funny i'm not laughing dammit i'm not god. i don't know if. you guys talk to the jokes well handled it makes sense that i've got to.
i would rather ask questions to people in positions of power instead of speaking on their behalf and that's why you can find my show larry king now right here on our t.v. question for. hello and welcome to crossfire where all things are considered i'm peter lavelle indecision and paralysis two words to describe ukraine today with the government in kiev lacking legitimacy in meaningful political resources washington in brussels face a public relations disaster of epic proportions meanwhile russia watches from the
sidelines. to cross-talk the ukraine crisis i'm joined by my guest mitch firesign in moscow he has thirty years experience in financial marketing and is author of planet ponzi also in moscow we have andrew he is a political analyst and journalist and in dallas we cross to bear he is a political analyst and editor in chief of news junkie post sorry gentlemen crosstalk rules and a fact that means you can jump in anytime you want and i very much encourage it andrew here in moscow how would you assess the situation going on in ukraine right now we had there the so-called anti-terrorist operation stopped in one day by civilians that doesn't look very promising for the government and can't what's your take. you know what i think i think the situation is very unstable and i think the very fact that they were trying to sell us as an anti-terrorist operation is an
affront to people that are actually fighting against real terrorists for example in syria and i think that i think that there really are civilians that are protecting their rights and they are sticking up for what they believe in there are people that do not agree with this johnson and they're in a majority in the east and biology trying to use military force i think it's actually quite despicable i think it's i think it actually is a human rights violation and dallas how do you see events being played out in camp right now because we're calling this program stalling ukraine ukraine has stalled what's what's your take on the situation on the ground well i feel like the you have is basically losing. what's going on. to cry and there's like a complete fog multi-nation of you quiet now the. director of the cia john boy was in the kitchen.
the. moment to do. action but the military is the u.k. an enemy that always a complete mess. and it's. scattered it's flowing up out on. washington president puts in mansion the. the situation a new client that he was on the brink of the civil war all is completely. you know one of the things that people forget during this whole crisis because we're looking at some self-identity and self-determination and i could mention crimea but the economy is in freefall what's your take going on there because you know everybody says. the world has to help ukraine the i.m.f. is bait some noise but not a lot of promise is there not a lot of money going in there right now and we'll see how it's spent so what's your
take on the economy and ukraine right now peter thanks for having me on i've written a book called planet ponzi and i'm here. here it is got it got in russia in russian and in english and basically what it does is described as a credit crisis and how indebted the e.u. and the united states are now i see that there are several issues around the debt that's been accumulated by ukraine first of all it's probably are in the neighborhood of one hundred billion dollars so i don't know who is going to bail out ukraine and that's the if we set the debt aside for a second without looking at it we can go to the commercial contract between nafta gas and gazprom that was defaulted on so you have people jumping up and down about you know a one hundred percent or two hundred percent or three hundred whatever the increase is it's because they defaulted on a payment this is a commercial agreement between two independent counter parties so whatever gazprom feels is the penalty for a default then that's what the penalty should be and they can charge whatever they
want as far as the united states. using liquefied natural gas with no. port to send it out of or a port to accept it that's twenty years off in the future that's a pipe dream fracking doesn't work but we could discuss that as a as you know a different point but i also think we're talking about democracy which i think andrew brought up a bit and technocratic governments i mean they had a referendum in crimea and that should be respected i mean the u.k. has been looking for a referendum on and eat out. in the u.k. in out for europe for the past thirty years in the politicians even though seventy five percent of voters in the u.k. want a referendum won't allow it to be put on the ballot so what kind of democracy are we talking about the same actors have the same narrative that we're involved in the non cuckoo in egypt what happened in benghazi that was the same the same person victoria nuland was involved in the big ozzie cover up with hillary clinton as secretary of state and now she's involved in the scandal that's going on in ukraine
so i mean what exactly is going on who is running the show and let's get a little honesty i mean your show puts forth the truth well i appreciate i appreciate it but andrew if you know what mitch says is really spot on because you know you had the e.u. in the united states go in there shake up the place the legal coup you know we have the country's sovereignty at stake here we have a separatism in the east and washington says that russia is destabilizing ukraine i mean how can they say that with a straight face i mean the action they can stand alone people that can say with a straight face a professional liars and so we have a tory newland and that's what we have john kerry and i like to touch upon all the divisions within ukraine i think it's actually even worse than east and west because if you look at the west they're divided amongst themselves you have the people who support the coup the people who are against the coup then you have probably sector and probably sector as a huge threat to this johnson and there could even be a possibility of a multifaceted. civil war in ukraine not only between. east and west but also
between west and west and i think it is johnson is pretty fearful probably sector and that's why probably sectors been able to been able to intimidate them in some ways and work with them i think that people need to watch what's going to be happening with that dynamic. we hear the words of a possibility of a civil war here i mean i i certainly don't think that that's in the cards at least from the people in the east they just don't want to be. malicious show up from andrew pointed out but it seems like it's a stalemate but this is a status quo that cannot me maintain for a very long. on the standpoint of the the the economy situation of you quien they will be on the. valleys soon first of all the haven't seen a penny as of yet even the us the u. of the us the us has only one billion of long ago on c.
. the one the one that all going to cough of the money is mainly the you and the ones they all knew hook with the the i.m.f. there will be a cuts in all social services in pound sion in everything else and its values sued the the wonderful. you know new. studies model of the of the us and the you will be applied to you clan. pollute king live detroit michigan being us functional detroit michigan the pension system is going to me it's going to go ahead jan they're going to go ahead pension the pension system if you'll bear a bankrupt the e.u. is is a failed project it gets an f. minus the euro will not exist in five years as a currency is that we see it today i mean ukraine has been receiving belle out money since one thousand nine hundred ninety eight without the support of russia
they would have been bankrupt a long time ago getting on the topic of bailouts how many bailouts has greece had i mean the e.u. is holding it together because they've got an election coming up in may and big election in two thousand and fifteen and all they want to do is hold it together for the time being but you know i go into in great detail in my book that the e.u. is insolvent they're technically insolvent the united states has over two hundred twenty trillion dollars in debt now put that into perspective for a second global g.d.p. is seventy trillion dollars so i guess the solution right now is in europe they're coming up the united states already dropped at this with the e.s.a. european. system of accounts in two thousand and ten so what they're going to do is change the way they account for g.d.p. which is going to add three to five just just juggle the numbers that's what you're saying right just play with the if the numbers don't work let's just make up new numbers so what they're going to do is they're going to use r. and d. expenses r. and d. and weapons of war go into g.d.p.
so what they want to do is increase the possibility of war so there's a lot of spending on military equipment so they can goose up g.d.p. just like the federal reserve and the bank of england in the bank of japan are goosing the stock markets because the global economic markets are tired right now and they're at historic new highs when the global economy is near depression italy is a depression they've had negative g.d.p. for what two years on the trot now portugal is a basket case italy has two point seven trillion in debt that they can't so imagine what does the european union want with ukraine you need to spell it out in a couple of sentences well i think the european union wants to extend its reach over everything and i think that there's an they want to isolate i think nato which is outdated they don't they still think that this is the one nine hundred sixty s. but actually this is two thousand and fourteen and people need to wake up i think the i.m.f. is behind the times and doesn't really have too much of a good clue as to what's going on the world bank and nato need to get with the
times isolating russia doesn't help anybody russia and the united states being involved in the whole conflict i don't you know i don't think they should be involved in and i think a let me let me go to andrew before we go to the break here andrew that we could have an election that's planned in ukraine how fair and democratic could it be if the east doesn't want to participate it's not going to be fair and democratic at all i mean we look at what happened to presidential candidates the other day. i haven't seen and when it came as one night he was almost beat to death by a drunken mob and when you have this type of intimidation going on it's not just intimidation against andrew and imitate andrew. do you see that that's widely known in western media right now what you just said on fortunately it's not and that's why i want to say here on our team to get the word out more people need to know about this is something like that happen in the united states where political figure representing a minority group or or joey even from a region that is the most economically productive and the largest geographical
region just to texas for example was beaten almost killed on the presidential campaign trail can you imagine the outrage in the u.s. and not only that i actually did will take it a step further yulia timoshenko i can guarantee you she has security how come those two gentlemen didn't have any security ok i'm going to jump in here gentlemen we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on ukraine stay with arkie. was. his or. her. please please take me very hard to take over the
repeats the same old joke of course. your ex-girlfriend still in poetry keep. ignoring. what really matters. to your facebook. science technology innovation all the list of elements from around russia we. covered. you know what they say. welcome back to cross talk we're all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing the recent developments in ukraine.
ok much if we go beyond the fog of western media on this crisis in ukraine you know if you point out this country is in severe economic crisis and its neighboring russia and russia is really the only country that can be part of the solution in a very big way but lo and behold we have sanctions and more sanctions are expected to square the circle for me because it doesn't make any sense at all. you know the circle you know i don't know what's happened to democracy but last time i checked i mean they've had to technocratic governments in italy mario monti who is an ex goldman sachs came in and took over the reins and now they've got a new technocrat who is appointed now i don't know in ukraine the government that's currently in power that was appointed i don't know where they came from i mean that was never told to us but it seems that there are accepted by the un accepted by her merkel and accepted by the white house as
a leadership so i you know i don't know where that gets us but if you look at the ukraine economy six out of the last seven quarters their g.d.p. was negative they had an outlier in q four of last year that was up about a week ago they came out with the forecast for two thousand and fourteen they expect to be down three percent so i think they need a bailout from russia i mean they do sixty percent of their trading activity. in the g.d.p. calculations are with russia or x. russian countries so. the united states providing one billion when they probably need at least one hundred by my guess and these bailouts have been going on since one nine hundred ninety eight isn't going to be very helpful so will the united states taxpayer stand up and say yes i think we should fund one hundred billion bailout and that's just a start because if you think about it when greece got bailout number one that was going to be the last one there was bail out number two and this is been going on so greece will eventually end up leaving the euro along with the other prophets
southern europeans that cannot pay their debt because nothing is improving you can jockey as you said yourself peter you can jockey these numbers around but at the end of the day you can't print your way to prosperity that happened in zimbabwe i mean and the currency you know you've got one hundred trillion dollars hold on a second i think i have a point here here it is one hundred trillion dollars. i think we got your point andrew again you know we see this war of words in the media and we have white house and the state department and faceless bureaucrats in brussels warning warning russia but anyone that knows the history of ukraine in this region in particular in the post soviet era you know these are two countries that are really tightly intertwined and you know if you're going to sanction one and help the other it does neither any good i can't see how any sanctions coming from the west helped the ukrainian people sanctions don't help the korean people at all whatsoever and i
like how you mentioned the close relationship between russia and ukraine because to put it quite simply russia is the umbilical cord for ukraine without russia you could ukrainian economy basically ceases to exist and if you're going to have that type of economic black hole with close to a fifty million people right in the center of eastern europe you those those refugees are going to go west and they're going to go east and right now with a europe taking more of a right wing stance they're not going to want to accept let's just say a couple million ukrainian refugees let alone in poland of all places when i'd like to bring up poland because. earlier we were talking about are the objectives of the european union pushing further and further east and i think that if we look at one china and we see that some of the e.u.'s frontier states in this case this specific example poland have been pressing for the e.u. to go as far as they can with the eastern partnership in worse in warsaw there end quote unquote n.g.o.s which functions opposition groups aimed and dedicated towards overthrowing the ball or russian government poland is not a neutral player it has never been and one poland starts talking about ukraine if
you can't take its word for it at all look what they're trying to do. so bear and dowlas i mean how does ukraine move forward here because i'm very worried you know we could say i don't see russia tearing the part of the country apart i don't i think the media blitz about invasion again is just pure fantasy pure fiction there's no reason in the world why russia would get itself involved militarily but we keep hearing this from the illegitimate government in kiev and as andrew pointed out countries like poland would really like to see more nato support in in poland and in the baltic republics i mean there's different agendas here but again it doesn't do anything good for the ukrainian people and keeping that country together right while it's. you know avoid to appease. the situation as. well you know in the way you see in the western media.
enough time to actually people believe those laws. example. for example you know putin has been. claimed to have done physically or and so on and so on and he saw. and the public opinion not the only way in the u.s. but also in do you he's getting. he's getting on the under. put. puts in. they they just need to. and it does become the bad guy what you feel. the need to see you now. could be sucked send. by the u.s. into a poxy war all in a new klein an old fool a. ploy of the. question will not debate well it's interesting
that the ploy i seriously doubt that the russians will fall for any kind of ploy because looking at mr kerry and the the foreign ministers of the european union they can't even walk down the street to go and and look at their watch at the same time i see one xander one blunder after another but that brings us to what did the fate of ukraine because essentially they went in there they broke it now it's left in their hands they're responsible for it and you know what if it ends up being a house or this experience because this regime in camp they are not legitimate no one voted for them and now they just look to the e.u. the united states nato to bail them out this is the this is the ploy match go ahead but i think also what you've got going on here that jill bear raised is an issue is called there were two nobel prize winners that i can cite here one was eve on
pavlov and i think he won in one thousand zero for a good russian medical doctor and he won for his studies with dogs and ringing bells and making them salivate the other nobel prize winner that i want to talk about is paul krugman who writes for the new york times ok so paul says the economy is fine and everybody in washington like larry summers jumps to the keynesian tune of let's print more money and it will be better but you can't print your way to prosperity it's not the way forward and bailout infinity is not the way forward neither is q.e. infinity with. no exit plan the fed's balance sheet in the u.s. is swollen to four point two trillion dollars so needs a bailout but is the us the us can't bail them out one billion is not going to help it's going to be hundreds of billions they've got to enter into and honor the commercial agreement they have that as problem has with nafta gas you know that's contract law i know that the general motors contract agreement was thrown out the window and the senior bondholders were put in
a class with the common shareholders but that was then that was in the credit crisis so those are special circumstances but do i do i think that you know i don't think that the economy in ukraine is going to turn around without russia's help they've got to work as partners in constructive partners and i do not think the united states will get sucked into the vortex of a war because seventy five percent of the the voters in america are against any kind of military intervention anywhere on the planet right now after our last botched fiascos and we still don't even want to talk about benghazi what really happened there all that's interesting and you know if i go to you i think it's really quite interesting what mitch had to say because no one in the west lives a memory oh we've broken iraq we broke afghanistan we broke libya we broke syria well let's try ukraine now that's what it looks like to me if you step back you know what also looks like it to me actually anyone can go to their library pick up a book it's called the grand chessboard as they be it was in ski and in there speaks about something called the eurasian balkans and their policy is to split up
countries from north africa middle east eastern europe all the way through essentially to create this type of this type of uncontrollable chaos because the whole point is to stop the major players from coming together the rest of vs the west in this case russia and china and we look at the countries there being broken as you mention iraq afghanistan syria what's happening there is definitely a tragedy what's going on right now in ukraine and this appears to almost be a coordinated of coordinated offensive aimed at the eurasian heartland so peter what i would do is to summarize we have. all the policy of my four d.'s ok mainstream media and the government put forward its divert deflect deceive and deny and just keep repeating that and there you go ok and you'll be on the head with that you know if you get if you kind of go ahead tell them to go ahead and dallas go ahead. yeah if i don't john pan you know it this is not this is an overall strategy it's the us was to do strategy of creating
a failed state and it is going on all over the world it's going on in syria. it's going on in libya it's going on in your walk is a failed state afghanistan is a failed state it is it is a strategy and that's what they're trying to do in a new client that is what they are and unfortunately the you call me well not for the the c.e.o. of the global call boy old pirate let me go to you because this is i mean what i gave andrew the last word here i think it's very interesting we've all mentioned the countries that have been turned into failed states but the difference is andrew is that ukraine's on russia's border and that's why russia doesn't want to see it happen yes yeah i mean to have a failed state of that size on russia's border it would be horrible you it could be very economically devastating and just also think about the humanitarian consequences a lot of the times when we go back to washington along in brussels people are sitting in their plush air conditioned offices and no one is thinking about the
human cost no one's thinking about the people in eastern ukraine they are fearful for their lives no one is thinking about the russian speakers in washington crain they are afraid to even speak their native language and when we look at when we look at this and we take in the context of russia it actually looks like the west is trying to use ukraine and fail ukraine to purposely attack russia as the a proxy all right gentlemen very interesting conversation many thanks and i guess in moscow and in dallas and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t. see you next time and remember crosstalk.
you know i'm a very emotional person by nature i really like who had lost. jack thanks what i'm like i'm so cool and there's no one here worthy of being with me. but chief i really believe in fate i'm sure that if something happens it was meant to happen. the theaters a great healer i'm convinced that everyone comes to the theater to be safe. we welcome aaron made and abby martin to be terrific hosts on the our team network . it's going to give you a different perspective give me one stock never i'll give you the information you make the decision don't worry about breaking the works it's a revolution of the mind it's a revolution of ideas and consciousness in frustrated with the system extremely you approach which would be described as angry i think i'm
a strong enough or single. happy friday everyone i'm abby martin this is great in the set of a great show for you guys today will be talking about jesus the man human and animal sexuality and we'll be giving a special tribute to author and poet r.c.m. mark so stick around when i can i want to message let's break this. please please please please a little very hard to take. a look. at that act with that earthquake there is no.
legal. play. with the easter holiday upon us my next guest in the theologian and author of the new york times best selling book zealot the life and times of jesus of nazareth. now you may remember reza from this famous confrontation about his work on fox news . i want to thank live on you're a muslim so why did you write a book about the founder of christianity. well to be clear i am a scholar of religions with four degrees including one in the new testament and fluency in biblical greek so begs the question why would you be interested in the founder of christianity. because it's my job as an academic i am
a professor of religion including the new testament that's what i do for a living actually yes it's even hard for fox to comprehend anything outside of a white born again christian writing about jesus but reza is fascinating and meticulous research on jesus of nazareth it goes against the grain of everything we've been told is exactly why i wanted him in the show reza joined me earlier to discuss his book and i first asked him how he arrived at the conclusion that jesus was a revolutionary political leader rather than the peaceful prophet mainstream culture teaches us. just a matter of putting jesus in the world in which he lives i mean first century how this time was a time awash in apocalyptic expectation there were countless preachers and profits and bandits and messiahs who were walking around performing miracles healing the sick exorcising demons talking about the coming order of god the kingdom of
god many of them as i say declare themselves to be the messiah and jesus very much fits within this suspect him of revolutionaries that came before and after him and it's also important to understand that this is so much a political biography of jesus that's the wrong way to think about it in jesus's time there is absolutely no difference between religion and politics i don't mean to say that they use the same language or exist in the same field i literally mean there is no difference whatsoever between religion and politics they are one and the same so this book is a reminder to people of something that they should already know which is that every seemingly religious word that came out of jesus is mouth had clear unmistakable political ramifications and this is a reminder of what those political ramifications would have been what was the advantage for the early christian church and even today's church to downplay kind of his more radical elements of jesus' life there's this. just effort in the
gospels to spiritualize jesus's message the kingdom of god it's not a real it's a heavenly kingdom except for a century and then the other thing to do is to sort of de judah five jesus in other words you don't want to keep preaching this gospel to jews whose religion is no longer a legitimate religion in the roman empire you want to start preaching it to non jews to romans and to do that you also have to sort of remove some of the overt jewish quality of jesus's teachings and turn them into abstract ethical principles that all people can abide by that's what the gospels represent a deliberate attempt to deemphasize jesus's judaism and to deemphasize some of the more radical political connotations to his teachings and talk about the council of nicea which was the first council someone to attain that consensus on the tenets of early christianity what is the significance of that well the council of nicea which takes place in the middle of fourth century happens
after the conversion of the emperor constantine to christianity and sort of the establishment of this religion very soon to be established as the official the only official religion of the roman empire before this time before the council of nicea you can't really say that there was such a thing as christianity there were christianity's many many different strands many different interpretations of what this movement actually meant but of course you can't make an imperial religion out of something that comes in a hundred different flavors as constantine reminded the bishops that he gathered together at nicea this religion can only be one thing and so it were as these men who were tasked in this council with figuring out what that one thing is and that is sort of where what we now consider to be christian orthodoxy was born and of course all those christians who disagreed with that orthodox. see
overnight became heretics and he were either forced to convert to the orthodox position or were burned at the stake or actually fled from the roman empire and interestingly enough they fled primarily into the middle east. reza the point often brought up by atheists is that jesus was actually an amalgamation of different historical mythical figures such as egypt and deities greek philosopher what is your response to that argument. well that's true about the christ the christ. which is this sort of spiritual interpretation of the historical jesus was unquestionably influenced by a whole host of religious and political ideologies that existed in the first century throughout the roman empire and of course a lot of that has to do with hellenistic and roman thought as well as you gyptian thought but it's not true about the jesus of history the man himself the marginal
jewish hasn't who lived in the backwoods of galilee two thousand years ago was an actual person and you can it's very difficult but you can try the christ of faith the sort of mythological legendary christ you can try that that figure from the historical person himself and make some very i think key fundamental conclusions about who jesus as a jew preaching judaism to other jews would have been and that's that's really what my book is about it's not about jesus christ it's about the jesus of history jesus of nazareth right and you've talked about the difficulty of seen jesus as a man rather than just god why is it so troubling for so many christians to separate the two an understatement jesus through this period storable perspective. well the foundation of christianity is that jesus is both fully god and fully man that he has boat. these things at once and frankly that's
a mystery that is very difficult for the human mind to wrap itself around i mean the god part of jesus subsumes the man part it becomes very difficult to think of him as having human emotions or for that matter human motivations because after all while he may have been in human form he was god and so therefore his words and actions are eternal and universe old context plays no role in figuring out who he was or what he meant he is a contextual he has always existed and will always exist that kind of figure becomes very difficult for the historian to talk about and so when one tries to get to the core of the man himself to put aside his divine nature and focus solely on the humanity of jesus and more importantly to provide him with human motivations for the things that he does and he says well as you can imagine that can be
somewhat. offensive or difficult to swallow for certain people of faith but the truth of the matter is that. at least the responses that i've gotten from christians have been overwhelmingly positive because you know this is a book that says it doesn't matter what else you think about jesus go ahead and think that he was god go ahead and think that he was the messiah or the son of god whatever else you think about him he was also a man and he was a man he lived in a specific time and place in that time and place shaped who he was and so this is a book about that time and place and the influence that it would have had on a pole or a galilean peasants like jesus understand your book has been criticized by some scholars as merely being an imaginative reconstruction of jesus' life you've said yourself that there are only a couple of historical facts about jesus that can be consistent in his life upon why is it so important to focus on examining the specific details of his life as.
well yes so first of all every every reconstruction of the historical jesus is an imaginary it's an imaginative enterprise because we know nothing take away the gospels and we know nothing about the jesus of history except that he was a jew that he started the jewish movement sometime in the first century and that as a result of that movement he was executed by rome and that's it so how do you construct a biography out of those three factors while the way that you do so is by placing him firmly in his time and place because while we know very little about jesus we know all modern about the world in which he lived and so all reconstructions of jesus have to rely on the evidence of the world in which he lives to fill in the holes of his life and you know there are some are more educated than others some are more i think reasonable than others and i think some rely less on christian accounts of jesus than others do like mine for instance. but i think
that you know it's a very difficult thing to do when you're dealing with a character that is shrouded in mystery who it is someone who is only written about through sacred history in other words the people who wrote about jesus were not really concerned that much about the things that he better did or said they were far more concerned about who he was and so the gospels are not historical documents they are theological documents. they are arguments of faith not arguments of history and so the trick then becomes and this is something that's been going on for two hundred years i mean i'm not the first person to do this the trick then becomes figuring out what in the gospels is more historically accurate and what isn't and the way that we do that is by. taking the claims of the gospels and analyzing it according to what we know about the time of jesus to see. see whether it can be trusted or not and that simply all that i do in
this book right i'm glad you said that because i think to a lot of non-religious observers it seems like not just christianity but all religions have been so intertwined of politics and have such a forgotten message of its founders even though of course that it was a different time as you mentioned i mean how can the divisive nature of religion today in today's world start to be reversed is it because of a literal interpretation of these texts or is that a contributing to do with it though i always have to remind people that literalism is a very new phenomenon and i mean in the two thousand year history of the gospels it's only been a hundred years in which christians have read them as literal and inerrant that might come as a shock to a lot of christians because they think that well this is how the gospels were always read that's not true the concept of literalism can be traced to the early night early twentieth century actually a group of protestants particularly in the u.s.
and europe who in response to the scientific revolution decided that you know if that which can if that which is true is that which can be factually verified then the gospels must be able to be factually verified otherwise they're not true and that's never been how the gospels were intended to be read but that said i think the real answer is that we have to start making a differentiation between religion and faith these are not the same things faith is indescribable it's inevitable it's deeply personal and individual listed religion is nothing more than a language made up of symbols and metaphors to help us express faith to ourselves to other people. and in a sense if we can just figure out that you know the faith that so many people around the world have is deeply held in common in the religion is what's different and if we stop confusing the religion stop thinking about it as an end instead of a means to an end. stop thinking about it as the destination instead of
a path to a destination then i think we'll be in a better place to understand how much the values that matter the most we share in common even though we may speak a different language when it comes to those values very well said reza really appreciate coming on the show. i pleasure thanks for having me coming up i'll speak to dr karen bonn are about week what we can learn from animals sexuality stick around. to look. for
the washington. the old trees being scared of the latest numbers in the media the candidate for the prophecy of current issues actually back to you and doesn't do too much for ad revenue line tech agriculture giant teeth on a seventy six year old american farmer based in indiana fallout do you think this is going to create for the cia do you think this is what's triggering the americas the largest economy in the world it's also the largest debtor nation building instead of breaking the set is mostly about alternatives to the status quo but one night the real alternatives points to working toward the american dream the next they were just trying to survive it's time for americans and lawmakers are forced to wake up and start talking about the real cause of the problem.
it's a friday i want to end the week on something fun and informative animal sexuality and what we can learn from and to do better to speak on such an issue and dr karen mom our mom has a biologist and world renowned expert on animal behavior particularly when it comes to sex and a pet web series called wild sex has gone viral amassing over twelve million views because as it turns out people are really interested in seeing other species copulate and after hearing her ted talk about the subject so was i so she joined me earlier to discuss the strange and wild world of the animal kingdom and why humans might be so different after all i started by asking her to go over the sexual behavior of a couple of her favorite animals. the piece but not a list is this wonderful example that i like to use this is an animal that's very closely related to squid octopus it's a subtle pot and the people are not less has something called a hectic
a tallis which is a detachable swimming penis and it actually leaves the body of the male using chemical cues to find the female attaches on to the female and delivers the sperm that way and oh it doesn't come back because of the number one question i always get but it will grow during the next meeting season you know it's interesting late for many many decades biologists actually thought that that because alice was a separate organism altogether because you know it's just doing its thing swimming through the. tape here is a really cool example of this mammal from south america. that you know stands on all fours and sometimes it looks like it's standing on all five because its penis is pretty much exactly the same sizes as one of its back legs hind legs and what's interesting about the t.p. are in addition to the fact that it is a very large penis it's also prehensile so it has a level of dexterity with its penis. much like we have with our hands and it uses
this to actually bypass the female's vagina altogether and directly deposits burn into her uterus super interesting. and i don't write like you just think wow you know when i see a lot of the males in the audience when i talk about these things the males are like well i can do that with. amazing ducks really preparing for a move on shuras of the jacks is one of those that really interesting co-evolution scenarios males have corkscrew well the females vagina is actually more of a corkscrew shape whereas the penis is in a spiral shape and this is something that goes from completely flacid to ejaculation in less than a second. really really interesting example for first of all based on the morphology of the penis end of the giant of the female and secondly based on the behavior that's involved if you've ever seen having sex that's not a fun thing to watch and it's very violent it's very coercive there's many males
one female but she will have the last laugh because she can actually manipulate her postures to allow this pair of certain suitors better access to her ovaries and also talked at length about animals mimicking human sexual activities such as cross-dressing and birth control super fascinating examples of which animals exhibit this type of behavior yeah sure i love to think about these kinds of ideas where humans think of ourselves being so different from the rest of the animal kingdom when in fact we're really not cross-dressing in the human animal it's something that's kind of interesting we use of course clothes make herodias things like this to appear as members of the opposite sex will this happens in the animal kingdom all the time and it could happen for different reasons a lot of times young juvenile males juvenile those sexually mature. or smaller i suppose i should say. they dressed if you will. as females in order to get close to
females and stay out of the watchful eye of an alpha male that could be aggressive towards them so they're doing it to be in disguise and oftentimes females will appear as males in order to ward off. sexual advances so if they look like a male chances are they're really aggressive males are not going to be hitting on that as often and this is a good strategy for a lot of females who are often coerced into sexual activity and the birth control example is something we see across many of the great apes species and a lot of the females are ingesting compounds whether it's through fruits or other vegetation that are high in fido estrogens and in a lot of cases and specifically with the all of baboons in one theory at these females are eating this black cloud that shuts down the reproductive cycles altogether and they could be eating any number of things but when the plum is available they go for the plant and basically it's it's
a pill for baboons so it's perplexing biologically but sometimes i like to think you know we need to give these animals a little more credit we're not quite as different you know and maybe these these are among our closest primary relatives maybe these ladies just want a break. and i think that one of the biggest misconceptions as well out there is that dolphins are the only other animal that actually have sex for pleasure other than humans for the accuracy. absolutely there's a lot of sex for coersion as in no fun but there's also a lot of acts for pleasure now the advent of orgasm kind of came with the evolution of mammals but a lot of more primitive animals primitive that's a bad word but a lot of other kinds of animals have sex for pleasure as well we have a couple of really interesting examples one of them is the big and male earrings have penile appendages that are either really big really long or really short and the males that have the big ones aren't bigger or stronger. or better in any way
they just have a larger penile appendage and this is something that's just simply genetically inherited from father to sons and it's found that the females prefer to have sex with the males that have the longer appendages and by a lot by all the biologists that actually concluded that this is because if you look better you leading them in a way that is the it's not happening with the males that have the shorter. similarily there are. these mexican fish that have these groups on their perch max alay and this is something i've actually termed the magnum p.i. hypothesis and the males will actually try out the female in her general region before copulating with her and they're using this moustache to do that and this is basically females choose to associate with and mate with the males that have these mr ashley so we can only assume that something about that genital prodding is
affording these males some benefit so i guess must goes beyond just. the other ones and of course but obo monkeys are. an oral sex and oh my word there there is nothing you know. but like holy cow there's really nothing they don't do and an interesting read humans we like to say our closest primate relatives are chimpanzees and they are but we are also equally related to but know those so we have to close this primate relatives chimps and the novos so you know whether or not you want to be a prude about it we can say that like anything goes when it comes to these organisms and and but no societies are quite peaceful they basically solve any kind of conflict through sexual activity and this can be between girls and girls and boys and boys and groups and stippling the parents through you know this is the.
everything that is handled through sexual activity and let's think about the homo sexual activity scene and nature you've written specifically about zebra finch is that a study that examined the nature of their homosexual tendencies can you outline what that study concluded yes that was a very interesting study that looked at the pair bonding in zebra finch as and of course these organisms are known to have long term pair bonds and so what biologists did is they manipulated the sex ratios and then found of course that you know when there is a shortage of females that males will form long term social bonds with each other that do include sexual activity but what's interesting is that then they really introduced females into the into the experimental arena but that had no effect and so the males basically chose to remain together in a couple instead of allowing the female and so that's very interesting in just another note on homosexuality you would be hard pressed to find a species in the animal kingdom but that's not engage in homosexual behavior it's
absolutely everywhere i wanted to show you a clip from from an author on the show christopher ryan he's discussing the evolution of human sexuality after study shows and here he is talking about the difference between males and females. men and women also have differences in their sexual response and women appear to be much more plastic in their response which is to say that their response responds more to social pressures they're more situational and it's it's generally easier for women to suppress their sexual urges so they sort of have more control over how they respond to things that men do and this tends to extend to other mammals as well of course do you agree with his assessment or. i.q. i think that it goes down to it breaks down to a lot of basic biology in that females are generally known as the choosy sex we
produce very expensive eggs and in the human case we only drop one of those every month and if that happens to be fertilized we are out of commission for at least another nine months so it makes sense for us to have more control be able to make more appropriate choices about our sexuality and who we are sharing our very expensive gametes with where is males on the other hand of course produce sperm which is a pundit and sheep and they can keep producing it several times a day every day up until they die right and so it makes sense for males to not have such specific choosey ness or control over their sex because they can just have more of it and it's ok thank you so much incredible dr karen bond our biologist i really appreciate you coming on thank you so much and pleasure. yesterday the world lost another fighter this time someone who wielded their weapon in the form of a plan gabriel garcia marquez was best known for his novels love in the time of cholera and a hundred years of solitude both part of
a body of work for which he was awarded the nobel peace prize for literature in one thousand nine hundred two as a native of colombia mark has used his fame as an opportunity to draw attention to the struggling people of this continent in a speech called the. solitude of latin america he pledged his solidarity with the people of chile would incur a cia backed coup nearly a decade prior and it's and suffered under the brutal military dictatorship of pinochet our cause was also a close friend of fidel castro who described him as possessing quote the goodness of a child and a cosmic talent and no sentiment rings more true than his belief in the infinite possibilities that are attainable in life as he wrote and love in the time of cholera wisdom comes to us when it can no longer do any good so let us not forget the wisdom of god dale r.c.m. mark has discounts and pots.
just so. let's. change. the switch in the washington well as a miss it is being suggested in the latest numbers and that the media candidates for the talk received covering the issues are actually back to a new doesn't do too much for ad revenue line tech agriculture giant teeth on a seventy six year old american farmer in the studio fallout do you think this is going to create for the cia do you think this is what's triggering the great america so large as to the wall it's also the largest debtor nation in the instead of breaking the set is mostly about alternatives to the status quo but what might be real alternatives to the point still not working for the american dream the next they were just trying to survive it's time for americans and lawmakers are forced
to wake up and start talking about the real causes of. lead. your friend post a photo from a vacation you can't afford college to different. the boss repeats the same old joke of course you like. your ex-girlfriend still pens tear jerking poetry keep. nor it. we post only what really matters at r.t. to your facebook news feed.
our production is called connections and it's fantastic strange as it may sound it's a very contemporary piece. back and it depicts our women's deep connection to russian culture for p.h.'s the to the rich tapestry of objects and rituals that connect women together. more whatever you say you have to admit the full figured woman is still a key symbol of russian. but she moved why
women why the big ballet their significance is clear they're the ones who down through the ages that have the necessary strength to deal with the difficulties and solve the problems that we have in russia. this is master and i always knew i'd find myself this new i never doubted her second that i would make full use of my feet or so to speak. not at all. hey girls if they'd let me have big as ever i pay a premium which try our costumes on today you could save enough business hard to find
any clothes that fit us in the shops and those that do only an old woman would wear if you know want to wants to make fashionable clothes for big women. well no it's very quiet doesn't matter if you're big boned you still want to close to make you look beautiful and sure if you figure that's what i look to achieve when i'm making a dress we could both enjoy it when she comes to have a new dress measured the. girls come to the theater looking for a family atmosphere. and that's exactly what it's like. least of course after a while your private life takes a backseat to the ballet comes to the fore the me and i when people come in with feelings of dissatisfaction stagnation and happiness performing can be a release you where you can see the fire in their eyes they come alive again.
the winner of the national theatre golden mask award you get anybody feel. a belly entitled the little box. the concept is to do an ironic take on the seven deadly sins. the women are going to incorporate interpretations of their own personalities into the performance. you're the most beautiful big buttercups on god's green earth. you know focus the beautiful. aside from being there choreographer i also know the girls well and that's why i was able to assign them roles that they can live and breathe.
i am a very emotional person by nature i really like about lost for example good love is a. pothead like to play most of all. you know but you know maybe. because that's the feeling i'm also familiar with. i said right at the beginning that if they wanted me to play one of the dead i'd like it to good old. because if things don't go my way i'll go screaming and shouting what's a doing you waste of space. luke there's a young handsome guy. let me introduce myself. a psychologist and i'm
doing research on the relationship between the feelings of happiness is experienced on stage and in real life we've never seen this before. neither how we. i don't like shrinks how they always sticking their noses in where they are not wanted. and can speak about whatever you like sticking my nose in we don't have to talk about anything you don't want to. sometimes it's good to have a chat with a psychologist if there's something bothering you. you mean problems no. problems or difference to something both are in you sure the problem is when something hurts. or when something bothers you it means everything's ok it could be improved upon improved upon yes improved upon try to do better go yes thank you glad you like the performance you know i don't want it. because there's no ring on
his finger yes there is. nothing the woman can be beautiful of course. but then again does that mean old thing the women are beautiful i really don't think that old insists consists of people who only like fat. for example in women people come to our performances for the emotional charge the positive energy of the good and we don't necessarily all have to be the same move why should being beautiful mean being thin. i think it's wrong the person should be naturally beautiful.
another performance we're giving is called the women the forty five it's about simple russian women like oscar ball so much on their shoulders during the war the survivors of the siege of leningrad who gave their food and water to their children and husbands that's what life is like for us women that's a lot. less simple russian the women who wake up in the morning go to work come home again dina and go to bed in the evening by. not bowled well big boned people also tend to be be caught it will give more than we receive when everyone takes advantage of us because sometimes people say nasty things to us when i go to buy food that i don't eat less they tell us and i think to myself what the hell i bet i eat less than hugh. you know which i don't like cakes
and i hate. and eldest junk food. to eat and i want to be seen just like everyone else. when i have to be strong for them or because i know that man can be trusted to secure propane so let me get this straight what you're saying is that you can't rely on men i need my idea of what a man should be is still based on how my father was when i was a child is dead now but he was very strong it's natural to compare every man i meet with him. i've also got a dog but a big one now a small one that is quite old and i've got a boyfriend too but the man and it will chip and these notes were now his not useful stronger know he would be if i gave him a chance but i don't nibble a solution and would like to control everything was different you see. and when i'm
not in control. i feel really bad i think shoeshine you so you feel lonely i'm a right can go with my guess if i was lonely i'd been tears all the time. but honestly not because i'm a woman but i'll probably try to find something to do grow potatoes in the garden for example i don't see come along the engine. well maybe i would say for the cats arena at the theater has become a sort of refuge because she's accepted and understood in a way that she's never been accepted or understood throughout her life no more confirmed my question regarding feelings of loneliness and provoked a very emotional reaction because for that reason could you loneliness must be a soft spot for the. noise blue roof could you have thought of mutal.
it. was going to do its job did you know the price is the only industry specifically mentioned in the constitution and. that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy albus. in fact the single biggest threat facing our nation today is the corporate takeover of our government and across several we've been hijacked by handful of transnational corporations that will profit by destroying what our founding fathers one school class i'm job market and on this show we reveal the big picture of what's actually
going on in the world we go beyond identifying the problem trucks rational debate and a real discussion critical issues facing america. ready to join the movement then walk a good pick. i bet that. aside. i think corporation kind of can go. to. the bank all that all about money and i'm a catholic for a politician breaking the law and with the tax break. out. there just to pledge. today by. that.
time the chance of. not about work for use paper i'm the deputy editor in chief of . mission couple that you couldn't tell me what material you have for me. yet a book i work with journalists because it is my colleagues know that i dance in the big valley this not always easy to combine my work and the bally. sometimes i have
to leave the newspaper if i'm needed urgently i mean. we hired a new employee recently i said i'm off to the show now she asked what are you going to see i explained i was dancing in the big bally she said but you're not that great and i told her i'm just really beautiful that's why you haven't noticed. she was really surprised big badly while. girls. went to atlanta joined us it was a real blessing. she's very intelligent and she reacts to everything very quickly and she's a real modern woman your. money that's advantage is really cosmopolitan you could easily live in any big city like moscow or st petersburg london or new york when she first came to us she had this
magnificent hairdo she's really sophisticated you know. with me that's one of my former colleagues under a once told me that men don't take kindly to rivals ocean in egypt it's a bit and it's stuck with me because the theatre is a very serious rival studios and. i was moved to many of the girls in the theater have their families. well know very few if you if you are so you hardly any you sleep i guess i would gladly leave the theatre if there was a man in my life worthy of such a sacrifice but i need to know for sure that it would be worth it and then again how ever going to meet someone in the first place if i'm busy all the time. then the moment yeah the moment i don't want to be in a serious relationship with
a man because then i might not be able to dance or do whatever else i might be interested in yet i've been performing with this group for almost twelve years i've already realized my potential maybe not one hundred percent but ninety percent at least in them yeah i mean willing to let it take a backseat but unfortunately i've yet to meet anyone who is giving it up for i think of what the what. little i'll be playing pride or hubris. from i'm guilty of this and every time you think that you're better than anyone else for whatever reason. you sleep in a temper if you ever laugh at someone for example. what you're saying in effect is that you think you're better than that person a child at such a widespread phenomenon and it happens so often in our everyday lives that we've
simply stopped noticing it. svetlana's playing cry when she is proud course cuts in a good way it's really funny to watch her perform she's really really good at getting it across it's just the right role for her. that's what i'm like i'm so cool and there's no one here worthy of being with me. i probably do have a tendency to come across like this when i talk to people. i can't deny the fact that to a certain extent it's a sin i'm guilty of from time to time. it's something i'll have to work on i guess .
there was a long running joke in our theater group i read a book by vishnevskaya in which a man and a woman met on the internet and talked about things they had in common one of them was horse racing and another was. the french young wine. for about three years after that every man i met if they knew what was it was a kind of a test test which no one passed no one had a clue well it was just a joke test you know but the girl still pull my leg about this sometimes i still look at what's really mats atlanta what can i say i'm still looking.
she has more going on in her life than just to be it's a career but she's at a point in her life where she's like a person who slates catching a train she's in danger of not living her life to the mux emotionally. before this but from what i've heard it seems she's very demanding she's expecting a lot from men in my opinion. were. both away seriously very well for you.
it was something i had always dreamt about it was a dream which led me here to this theater. and as soon as i write i fell in love and gave my heart and soul to it. since she's conducting an experiment on herself. become a real ballet dancer. box is a fairy tale sorts i think i have the most demanding role all the characters it's far from easy to interpret small thor despondency. going to play the role of slough which is actually the deadliest of all the sins in our interpretation it's more about unrequited love hopelessly hoping for something
dreams you could say it's an absolutely perfect role for tatiana. cry. just what are periods in my life when it feels as if nothing's happening inside maybe it's more like i'm digesting information or the slow it's a feeling i get when something you boardin is about to happen and i have to prepare myself only knew i think that's why disposed as it means to me that it's not part of why am i really believe in fate i'm sure that has something happened since it was meant to happen. on the some of my trained first as a sewing teacher and then i got a degree in cultural studies then somehow i ended up coming here making dresses for the actors from their point of view that i'd got a degree to begin with i thought working as a costume designer was a backward step might now that i see all these people coming to me and the need of
my help and i realise just how important it is that i'm here. that's quite a fancy dress how can we access riser bracelets as a necklace how about a father a father. when you come here you feel beautiful you feel that people need to you know when it comes to the biz for months as themselves it's not some amateur thing it's a real professional production other big girls who are common people here it's their chance to make art with a capital they get them all it really is high art. drama magnificent emotional power of tchaikovsky's music the limelight and there she is
if you know the swan. that's a representation of her dream coming true. man . can do you like to yes. of course and i believe the time a talented person does and that i am able to achieve good results and whatever i put my mind to yesterday i ask are you married or single you know i'm not married i'm not married but so you only cook for yourself now i also go from my boyfriend.
i see through you don't want to get married on principle. you know it's just never been an ambition for either of us. i mean a formal wedding and a marriage certificate. who've been together for a long term already fourteen years mused fourteen years together i believe that if people really love each other they'll be together whether they're married or not the only thing that really matters are their feelings for each other and what about children. when i'd rather not discuss that question ok. flatly refused to talk about children. she made it clear that she was not willing to discuss this subject publicly. you know for his her relationship hasn't been registered efficiently means she's still looking if the marriage were registered it
would mean she's committed herself to a family life. as there's no marriage certificate. a means to search is ongoing. the every single one of us in this theatre has a love life we all have what friends. i don't know maybe it's something to do with a man but they don't seem able to see a full figured woman as a real woman they are ready for commitment and they don't want to make marriage proposals of course it's hurtful. it's almost as a matter realise that some people may think that we only do ballet to make up for the lack of any kind of love life that we come here to break down that were
beautiful and desirable well that's not the case i'd never call myself an unhappy person. you know pretty much that i know that it might come across as naive or funny the more that it may look as though i am using the ballet to cover up my failures in everyday life and keith on the other hand. i really believe that miracles happen i think it's just that i haven't met the right man at the end of each. of those numbers i like to feel needed in some way because if you know it's like a maternal instinct maybe not even that it's all like the feeling of friendship and if that goes everything is lost. his if i stop being down spoken leader that will be the end of the belly for me. i am.
yet to see it is a home from home that's how siana grow a safe haven three cuts arena and. it's more like a book that she reads over and over in the hope of finding a way in life. that get us why the theater is so important to jump and they're getting from the ballet which we hope for what they are lacking in their everyday lives. only second what's the theater's a great healer. but not just the big ballet what should look helps everyone involved and can actors artists everybody we've come here to interact. even if the girls don't have any reason to spend a lot of time thinking about it of course but you personally i'm convinced that everyone comes to the theater to be say. hello.
commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be accurate. that was funny but it's close and for the troops in the might think. it's because one whole attention and the mainstream media work side by side the joke is actually on the air. coming up. at our teen years we have a different approach. because the news of the world just is not this funny i'm not laughing dammit i'm not. ok. i thought. you guys have to the jokes will handle them except that i'm.
it's a classic. over by the if you. did you know the price is the only industry specifically mention in the constitution which says that's because a free and open press is critical to our democracy. there are no i'm sorry and on this show we reveal the picture of what's actually going on we go beyond identifying the problem to try to rational debate a real discussion critical issues facing him up for ready to join the movement and welcome to the big three. go on tell more about it washington d.c. and here's what's coming up tonight on the big picture again it is all the rage
these days but could it actually help save the planet from climate change devastation plus the carbon underground founder newmark in tonight's conversations of great minds in just a moment and despite mountains of evidence showing that it's probably worse than you thought many americans still aren't worried about climate change why is that and what can we do to wake people up before it's game over for the planet and possibly we human race more on that in tonight's deeley take and the media has given a whole lot of attention to president bush's new hobby of eighteen i'll explain why they shouldn't have done bad and what bush should have been paid later in the show . as the reality of global climate change continues to sink in. scientists activists and lawmakers all across the world working to find new ways to fight back against
greenhouse gases and before it's too late i guess for tonight's conversations with great minds tom newmark is one such person former corporate attorney turned organic farmer tom is now at the forefront of the movement to use agriculture to fight global warming he's the co-founder of the new nonprofit the carbon underground as well as the cohen or fink a low in a new way of an organic farm in coast to wreak it is also the co-founder of sacred seeds a trustee of the american botanical council and chair of the green peace fund usa tom lark welcome to the program it's a pleasure to be here tom thank you for having so much for joining us and i'd like to start out with you what what turns a corporate lawyer into an organic farmer and then even from that into an advocate of saving the world from climate change i have been attracted to nature my father was a great gardener i have in my youth i was doing plant texada me and botanical and they also somehow i stumbled on route to being a scientist and became
a corporate attorney which was also my family's legacy but in my heart always i was drawn to the beauty of nature i have i have a strong belief in the organizing genius and the beautiful the spoil of creativity in mother earth and i was lucky enough that my my corporate career could conclude with my being the head of an organic company which that brought me to costa rica which brought me into working on a farm and so i'm back where i became on well that's great. so. organic company what. when we say organic i mean you know the chemist would tell you organic means containing carbon. a consumer would say organic means no pesticides but i think you're talking about something much more sophisticated to. and and yet in some ways even more simple i was so proud to be a part of the first dietary supplement company which was sort of side
by independent organic certifier as having vitamins and minerals and herbs that were made with organic ingredients the company was that it's called new chapter in the real world for months and i was associated with new chapter for almost fifteen years and i helped to introduce new chapter into the organic world and i also was very very proud that new chapter was the first dietary supplement company that was able to enroll all of its products under the. project as nonscience project verified so always it has been important for me that consumers would have the informed choice i've been able to purchase the only organic products are products that were made in conformity with what i believe is the appropriate genetic standard which is mother nature there you go so how does this relate to.
to what we're doing to our soil let's let's move the difference between organic agriculture and industrial agriculture for lack of a better phrase and please fill me in it correct me if i'm right time and i don't have to do so but i i sent you a picture of my daughter sarah and maybe standing in front of a field and pennsylvania perhaps you could you could hew there than there there it is and that was seven years ago and behind me you'll see tall rogue last rows of organic corn and behind my daughter you'll see stunted and stressed rows of chemical or conventional corn and this is said of the farming system trial. in the lehigh valley that's done by the road deal once to an institute that i've been very proud to be associated with to be supporting for many
years that's where they had their picture tells the story because the organic field and this is during a drought year the organic field was able to respond to the climate extreme that the the water retention in the soil on the organic portion of the farming system trial the nutrients in that soil were far better able to respond to the weather extreme than you see on the chemical side that's the fundamental difference the important for me is that as we have seven plus billion people on the planet as we're dealing with climate extremes as drought becomes the new normal as all through the united states and all through the world we're we're experiencing. a periodic vacillation between between flooding and then long periods of no rain
whatsoever what farming system is more resilient what farming system will produce more food with more confidence so fortunately because of the thought leaders at places like the rodeo institute and because at my own organic farm in coaster reka i can see for a family how organic agriculture is more able to to respond to climate extremes that there is a flexibility inherent in mother nature that is not present in the chemical manipulated soil that is there is present in conventional agriculture now i you know i find it amazing that you're referring to this is conventional agriculture and one of the reasons why my my wife's grandmother farmed a hundred and some odd acres in michigan. she died at the age of ninety seven about it decade ago so this was back you know she started they started farming in the one nine hundred twenty zero nine hundred thirty s.
and the weeds sort of grew up on that farm in the summers and i grew up in michigan and i knew a lot of friends who had farms and before the fifty's before the sixty's was pretty much you know agriculture yeah it was agriculture and what you're calling conventional is this radical experiment that we've been doing for about forty or fifty years i mean you can go back to tilling practices that created the dust bowl you got to go back nine thousand years to the advent of the new of the in the old right exactly but but the fact of the matter is that. we have been aggressively destroying our soil with these with these radical new agricultural techniques that we now call conventional agriculture we are an organic agriculture is really just the way we used to do it so we are tilling the soil we are killing the soil we are poisoning the soil we are dumping synthetic nutrients herbicides fungus sods we are at war with the soil and not by we i mean the conventional industrial others
call it i think what it is totalitarian extractive agriculture it is agriculture that says to the land you are nothing other than a container to hold or chemicals and you will do as we say for you to do and there is a mean there is a concept that somehow farming in that way is more productive and is more profitable but nothing could be further from the truth in study after study there is no evidence they are organic regenerative organic agriculture is more productive you saw that picture were the corn in the organic field was significantly greater than the corn in the conventional field during drought years the real deal in. the tute has found that the organic fields produce thirty to thirty five percent more
corn than the conventional fields and what's nice is that the farmer is not required to pay for the expensive imports so here's a note here is actually the farming system trial in costa rica there at my farm think a little no wave is conducting right now we just planted this in this is yuko ark a sob we're in a drought it's a horrible throughout the worst drought in anyone's memory look at the difference between the organic field as of that side on this side and the conventional field not i took the i took these pictures i just pivoted the camera and there is no photoshopping here the somehow even in the very first months of our trial in costa rica the plants that are being farmed organically are more able to respond to the climate extremes that are the new normal so when people say that we
need conventional editor culture to feed the world let them come to this trial let them look in the lehigh valley at the real deal institute look at the f a o reports look at all the published data showing that we need organic agriculture to feed the world is this. an example of the cartesian worldview of the idea that the world is just a machine and if we can just figure out the levers to pull we can make it all work when in fact the world is a living organism we need complexity the problem with industrial extractive agriculture is that it did in our eyes the nuance the complexity of a biodiverse system it is looking for a row crops broadacre monoculture the genius of nature is that life in its abundance in the fall the spoil of nature and all the interactions of. so oil microorganisms and the plants in a variety of plants all together that's what works yes you're right industrial
agriculture chemical killing and killing culture is reductionistic and it dismisses the genius of nature and tries to substitute human vanity for it it is a failed experiment it's really it's really so in the half minute we have before the end there how do we back away from that failed experiment it's simple the answers are already there it's right beneath our feet for a thousand severest farmers have been connected to the soil and have it have worked with nature and have produced food we simply have to go back to what mother nature and her bounty and her abundance will provide if we farm. organic fair. straightforward stuff so let's let's get into what that means for the planet earth right after those more of tonight's conversations in the great minds of tom newmark right after the break.
purpose of the political ticker. i know c.n.n. the m s n b c fox news have taken some not slightly but the fact is i admire their commitment to cover all sides of the story just in case one of them happens to be accurate. that was funny but it's close and for the truth from i think. it's because one full attention and the mainstream media works side by side the joke is actually on here. at our teen years we have a different. look a little because the news of the world just is not this funny i'm not laughing dammit i'm not how. you guys talk to the jokes well handled it makes sense that i have.
i'll go back to conversations of great minds so i'm speaking with tom newmark co-founder of the carbon underground an expert in regenerative organic farming and we in the last segment we talked about what is organic agriculture how is it different from from this reductive industrial agriculture what is the consequence of the kind of conventional or chemical our agriculture that we've been engaging in. on climate change ok i sent you some photos of india that i think are perfect to show here if we could if we could share there you are let's go to the other one first. take a second there see if we can cue the that there oh it's false here it is so i was
in india a few years ago and i was in rural india near or near bangalore and this is a photo of what used to be a pond. this is a photo of what climate change looks like with conventional agricultural practices this is a dried up lake bed and the community around it was basically blowing away to austin the wind now the other photo. that's just down the road in a biodynamic organic regenerative organic area where in just a few years the dried up lakebeds have been restored and where the farmers who were growing parody rice where they were struggling to get one harvest in the old system are now getting too abundant harvests that's
a before and after picture that's what climate change looks like on the dark side. or the ponce or try and on the flip side after regenerative practices are employed but it's even more profound than the out of the real deal institute just today announced it released a report looking at over thirty years of experience at its farming system trial and i encourage everyone to read this report it's on the road dale institute ords website and it's on how regenerative organic agriculture can not only reduce climate change but reverse climate change why reduce the problem when you can actually reverse it and here's how it works based on the road institute's experience of over thirty years of actually farming. a conventional chemical tilman kill system right next to the organic system and based on all of
the data that the rodale institute has generated and a comprehensive review of all of the peer reviewed published scientific papers on the power of a generative organic agriculture the rodale institute is declaring that if we could generalize across the globe regenerative organic practices we could actually sequester more than one hundred percent of the current and you will see zero two emissions that are right now are challenging us in an x. and stench a way for the very survival of the human species now it may not happen overnight that we can convert all of the arable surface of the planet to regenerative organic practices but what if only half were converted the real don't institute again in a heuristic in a in a in
a model has demonstrated the just converting half of the acreage available. for farming around the world would would be sufficient to sequester more than half of the current annual c o two emissions if we just sequestered. twenty percent thirty percent imagine how far that would advance our our species' efforts to respond to the current x. and step threat and not just rodale but the united nations commission on trade and development in september of last year in a report in caption wake up before it's too late had two brilliant papers one by an organisation called grain and one by the president. of the international federation of organic agricultural movements in in those two papers they reviewed more than forty five organic farming systems more than two hundred
and fifty data points from around the world in death certs in jungles in temperate zones showing that we can sequester carbon dioxide we can put carbon dioxide from the atmosphere and put it back into the ground whence it came so many hundreds of millions of tons of the c o two that now the excess that now threaten our existence game right from the soil let's put it back well and one of the one of the things i caught from this jim cameron's new series was that roughly fifteen percent of the carbon dioxide contribution annually right now is coming from deforestation and you know it's a worse we're stripping carbon out of the soil and and and of the soil and putting it into the air but you say that you could look at it's actually
a much higher number if the grain reports in the the. united nations report indicates somewhere between forty four and fifty seven percent of current c o two emissions per year can be directly traced to industrial conventional agricultural practices which includes the deforestation for we all know oil existed to indonesia so if we can if we can capture something equal to what we're emitting every year i mean that's that's nice that's a big deal but we've emitted three hundred fifty billion tonnes since the beginning of the industrial revolution more actually yeah ok yeah it's the right numbers of years all right. so. this is i mean this seems like a really important stuff. but we also still have to stop emitting carbon of course i'm not going to suggest that this is the one to does it doesn't this because it doesn't require the chemistry that requires carbon to drive the factories to make
the catch the pesticides it doesn't require the petroleum that so much so much for the leisure is made out of the resin require it all the machines isn't this actually a less carbon intensive form of agriculture and so so the system of agriculture is itself carbon neutral but more than they are photosynthesis relies on the ability of a plant to pull carmody oxide from the atmosphere and then using the energy from the sun and water and nutrients from the soil create carbohydrates and with those carbohydrates the plants can then border with soil microorganisms to get other nutrients that the plant needs in original work if organic system so the very essence of organic farming is taking karma they oxide from the atmosphere creating carbohydrates and then sharing some say twelve to fifteen percent of those
carbohydrates with the soil food web thereby putting the carbon bed. to work where it is a tonic and not a toxic influence. everyone is saying now that we need carbon capture and sequestration everyone is saying that in order to get the job done to take carbon out of the atmosphere and and somehow save us from going over the precipice and and creating climate change from which we cannot crawl back from the right that we need carbon capture but there is no such technology available today there we're all looking for a technological messiah that has not yet been invented except that hangouts it's already there nature it's called photosynthesis it's called mother earth and all we have to do frankly is just get out of the way so if you're talking about converting half of the book or more of the planet's agricultural lands to organic and you've
got some of the largest corporations on earth going up against you you've got vested interests in governments all over the world that interests how do you do that if you do that it's simple. there are five hundred million small holder farmers in the world and that's roughly means less than two hectares less than five acres subsistence farmers five hundred million. small holder farms in the world to two point five billion farmers that are farming on those farms those farmers don't care whether they're supporting the industrial complexes that produce designer seeds and designer chemicals they want to feed their families and in fact they're feeding the world seventy percent of the food in the world is produced by those smallholder farmers we may not convince the giant in just real
farming concerns in the united states to convert to regenerative organic farming although they would make more money and they would be recreating topsoil to give to their children we may not convince them we can simply rely on the common sense and the desire to grow through it and make money that is there in the smallholder farmers all around the world and that's what the carbon underground and that's what the rodeo institute and that's what grain and that's what i foam that's what we're all working to do we're working to organize and then to mobilize so it's to inspired these small holder farmers to adopt the practice this is an ironic that in the third world in the in the global south we actually have in the small subsistence farms of the world the opportunity to save the planet for all of us in the industrial developed world and we've seen those trends i mean there was a lot of conversation a decade or more ago about the farmer suicides in india as the as industrial
agriculture moved into india has has that reversed are people waking up or is industrial agriculture still on the move. i don't know if you saw that that farmer suicides are now hitting the united states it was the stories were last week at a front in iowa farmer suicides farmers farming with expensive industrial chemicals and designer seeds they can't make money and they can't respond to the weather extremes that we're now experiencing so unfortunately the the malls of the industrial agriculture roll engine or chewing up people even in the united states now and it's vandana shiva has explained in india we still have the suicide bill we still have unfortunately farmers unable to to continue to farm in the expense of fashion and in despair and there are lots but the pendulum not only
chaos to shift but it is now shifting so and it's our time in the thirty seconds we have love where do people go to do something or what should i want them to go to rodale institute org and read this extraordinary paper i want them to visit the the carbon underground org and join become a member of the carbon underground we can get this job done we will work with the support of mother nature we can create a bond that's great thank you. pleasure to have you with us great work to see this in other conversations of the great minds go to our website of conversations with great minds dot com. coming up right now hundreds of millions of people across the globe could lose their homes and livelihoods thanks to rising sea levels across the planet so what can be done to prevent the kind of widespread devastation we saw here in the u.s.
during hurricane sandy. nothing has been. this complex by the military since world war two. this is quite frankly in historical terms the berlin airlift in reverse. order seven or seven go down to some shifting on take off cause you're going to become stable you're talking really billions of dollars to move billions of dollars worth of equipment at what point used to cost no longer worth the investment. chance our forces. sucked in and the finish line at the. time.
that i'd screener aboard the international panel on climate change the i.p.c.c. has released a new report outlining some of the steps that can and should be taken to help fight back against climate change and global warming the report produced by over one thousand two hundred international experts makes it clear that catastrophic climate change can be prevented without sacrificing current living standards across the globe according to the experts shifting from a global fossil fuel driven economy to a global renewable energy driven economy would only take a fraction off of global economic growth as professor otmar even offer one of the
lead members of the i.p.c.c. team put it it doesn't cost the world to save the planet and the consequences of not taking action will be far worse than a slight decrease in global economic growth if we continue to let climate change and global warming go unchecked millions of people across the globe will feel the effects of more instances of severe weather and rising sea levels joining me now to talk more about the effects of climate change and the world's rising seas dr radley horton sosia research scientist with the center for climate systems research or columbia university and deputy to the lead for nasa as climate adaptation science investigator working for dr horton welcome. thank you it's nice to be on thanks for joining us how big of a risk are rising seas both here in the united states and around the world. rising seas pose an enormous threat globally along all of our coastlines we've seen about eight inches of sea level rise globally over the last century that's due to
increases in greenhouse gas concentrations we've seen carbon dioxide go up by about forty percent since we started burning so many fossil fuels it doesn't sound like much eight inches but by raising. on that floor raising that baseline we get much more frequent coastal flooding what's the what's the mechanism for this is this the water expands what i want to hear is that the warm water is melting off glaciers is a no i understand i've heard from from some of the right wingers that it was actually more snow in the antarctic in that it's taking all that moisture out of the what's what's what's the what's the situation and what are the physics of this right so at the global scale there are two primary factors that are driving sea levels higher as the planet warms but first when you alluded to it as the atmosphere as warm as it were as we've seen air temperatures globally increase by more than a degree fahrenheit those warmer air temperatures are making their way into the
ocean as the ocean also warns it expands that's causing part of this sea level rise the other big component of increase in global sea level rise is that will land that ice that's trapped on the land if we look at ice that's currently floating such of sea ice in the arctic or antarctica that ice that's floating if it melts it doesn't affect sea level much but if we look at these massive ice sheets in greenland and antarctica those are starting to melt those are starting to move from land towards the water as that happens they displace they cause that water to rise up those are the two principal factors that cause sea levels to rise that eight inches over the last century and that could drive somewhere between say two and four feet of sea level rise over the course of this century are an arctic and greenland the the principal things that we should be concerned about what about glaciers in the andes in the in the alps in the hall is in the rockies. yeah so.
and any glacier that's on land as it melts and puts water into the ocean is important historically some of those other sources of ice you just mentioned the andes the himalayas. they have contributed somewhat to sea level rise but we look at this century that's coming up when i say that we could see two to four feet of sea level rise whereas we had eight inches over the last century if we do see that excel aeration of sea level rise that we expect you really have to go to antarctica and greenland those are the large sources of ice as those are starting to move more quickly towards the water as we're learning that those ice sheets are vulnerable that there are more ways that they can they can melt than we thought there were that opens the door to the potential for what we call tail risk the potential for more extreme sea level rise than the i.p.c.c. for example has thought might be possible in the past so you think that their students might be more conservative than reality or are you said in the past are
they are they now revising those expectations. for what are the i.p.c.c. the i.p.c.c. has revised their projections up if we look at the prior i.p.c.c. report from two thousand and seven they really took a pass on this question we're talking about now of whether the ice in greenland and antarctica might start making its way towards the ocean this time around they talked about that possibility but they may still have underestimated a few of their risks something called marine ice sheet instability for example in antarctica it's hard to quantify how likely that ice is to get this place to move into the water but if even if there's just a few percent chance from a risk person back that it's a game changer so you can make the case that it's something that society should be thinking about if the antarctic large portions of the antarctic ice sheet were to. i understand they're being lubricated underneath by water melting down underneath them or and or greenland for that matter were to cause
a sudden large movement. you know the the outliers in the predictions but within the but within the predictions of a sudden large movement of a mass. of amount of ice what's the worst case scenario how much ice are we talking about and what impact would it have on sea level over what period of time. i think it's important to emphasize that there are no credible reports suggesting that say all of the ice on greenland could be lost in any of our lifetimes but you know worst case scenario and some of the work that we've developed for new york city for example suggests that we can't rule out the possibility of something like six feet of sea level rise this century that's not the most likely number the most likely numbers probably in that two to four feet ballpark that the i.p.c.c. talks about but our perspective is that we can't rule out six feet as a worst case scenario but the really important point to emphasize is that even just two feet three feet of sea level rise profoundly changes the frequency of coastal
flooding your raise the floor that basketball court you don't need more frequent storms even if we just get the storms of the past if the baseline is higher if the sea level is higher we could get three times as many coastal flooding events in the future just because the sea levels have risen so you raise the floor of the basketball court and suddenly everybody's a star and can slam dunk easily. with the. thermal hailing circulation there's a current the brings warm water from the pacific down around the southern tip of south africa up along the east coast of the united states we call the gulf stream and releases an enormous amount of heat out the north atlantic south of greenland that heaps europe basically from being in an ice age that keeps are in europe temperate even though it's at a latitude similar to that of alaska correct me if i'm wrong on any of this what. i've read a lot about the concern you know it was a big paper about this
a few years ago they made a movie about rather hysterical movie about of the day after tomorrow the concern about the greenland ice sheet dumping enough cold. non salty water fresh water into the north atlantic that it might. interrupter shut down that that thermal healing circulation that the. salt and temperature driven circulation shut down that river of water and shut down that supply of heat to europe. how much of a concern is that in your mind you know so i think that our perspective is shifted a little bit on this certainly the movie day after tomorrow in suggesting that the whole circulation could sort of grind to a halt that's probably an unrealistic fear but you're on to something in terms of describing the process more generally if we see more melting of some of that ice in the arctic freshwater being supplied to the surface of the arctic ocean for seeing more rainfall as some of the models suggest and snowfall for the arctic that would tend to make the surface of the ocean a little bit fresher and therefore
a little less dense since salt water is heavier than fresh water if we have less dense sort of freshwater happened in the arctic it's a little bit harder for water to sink there it's therefore suggest that circulation could get a little weaker i wouldn't look for it to stop but some research suggests it could weaken by say ten twenty percent we don't know the exact numbers so i think that maybe isn't our biggest threat the idea that the thermohaline circulation could stop but the point is absolutely right that the further we push the climate system the more we increase greenhouse gas concentrations through our human activities the further temperatures get from that equilibrium that we experience before the industrial revolution the bigger the potential for surprises may end up being dramatic and rapid loss of sea ice in the arctic ocean as we saw something that as i said doesn't directly affect sea level but could potentially have big impacts locally in terms of changing the energy balance of the planet if we don't have ice there in the future sunlight can be absorbed by the dark ocean surface whereas in
the past it's been reflected there are potential for surprises in the system as we as we push further away from equilibrium dr horton in the in the little less than a minute we have left. i understand that london and a number of other coastal cities are our cities that are that have large rivers or or you know near the ocean are preparing for those you know putting up giant sea walls and things is anything being done in the united states any plans. there absolutely are plans under way in the united states and somewhat patchwork as you'd expect some of the cities with the largest amount of financial resources where climate change is openly discussed places like new york san francisco los angeles are thinking about climate risk are thinking about sea level rise there are other areas where it's not really on the dialogue where people are really sort of discouraged from building climate change and climate risk into their long term planning even though it's
a dangerous proposition to not account for some of these growing rests. ok thank you very much dr radley horton it's it's a pleasure to have you with thank you so much. thank. you. crazy or more fan friendly food anyone who's ever been ten years old knows about the five second rule to drop your mom's handmade handmade p.b. and j. on your afternoon snack on the cafeteria floor and you have five seconds or less to pick it up before it becomes infected with good eats elementary school or have always believed in the five second rule but most scientists thought it was just an urban legend that is until now a new study out of aston university in birmingham england has found that even though dropping a food a piece of food on the floor does expose it to bacteria the time that the piece of food is actually on the floor does matter in terms of whether or not it gets
a much anticipated exhibit will run until june third of the price of sixteen dollars will get you a closer look at george w. bush's now famous portraits of world leaders mostly copied from with kopete so my lights include portraits of himself his father the dalai lama tony blair and a lot of your post which is very proud of the exhibit sees it as a good representation of his personal way of interacting with the. areas talking to the history channel about what inspired him to start painting in the first place. two years ago i was sitting up here. wondering how to account of live life to the fullest. and i read winston churchill's as a painting as a pastime and it inspired me. i had never lifted a brush before and never mix to paint. so i gave it a world. where they are
a friend of bush's art or not there's something about this whole thing was just bizarre i mean this is the guy who lied his way into the one of one of the most destructive wars in this nation's history he twiddle his thumbs is a great american city new orleans was destroyed by a hurricane and he bailed out the banks toure's as the economy collapsed and let americans go homes. it's easy for bush to sit back and try to live life to the forwards like they did world leaders he doesn't have to deal with any consequences of his administration's disastrous time in power if bush really wanted to use art to capture what he is five in office was like. he should paint a picture of the families blown apart by his shock and awe bombing campaign. he should paint a picture of the car bombs that tore through southern baghdad yesterday in another devastating reminder that the iraq war lives eleven years after that invasion began
and instead of paying world leaders he should paint portraits of the iraqi children born with birth defects because they've been exposed to the depleted uranium and white phosphorous used by the american military during the war. we should also paint portraits of the millions of americans who come home from his wars in iraq and afghanistan with life altering injuries or permanent psychological damage all those things would be a better representation of the bush years and yet another painting of a picture from wikipedia of uncle merkel. the french author albert khemu once about art that a guilty conscience needs to confess and that a work of art is a confession if that's true then george w. bush still has a whole lot more soul searching to do. maybe on the left article. when the obama supporters to the phones all but mr miller get. their eyes
politically correct that i'm correcting fox so-called news host stuart varney during a recent episode of fox and friends varney blasted the department of energy's clean energy loan program saying it had been a total failure after saving a few examples of clean energy companies that had received loans and then went bankrupt already concluded that the improve the entire program picked winners and losers check it out. let me connect the dots here the government put a whole bunch of dough into all these companies hoping they would work well in fact the technology simply wasn't up to working at the point they thought they could pick windows they picked loses and by the way this is not over the. secretary just recently said we're going to start up this loan program to electric car companies and we've got sixteen billion to put behind this new loan program that no varney is at least partially right some of the companies that the new part of energy gave money to under the clean energy loan program did fail but they were the vast
minority of the thirty one companies that received money from the energy department only four failed according to clean energy blog clean technica that's a better result than most venture capitalists can expect with their investments stuart varney and his friends over at fox so called news are too busy shilling for the fossil fuel industry to point that out however and that's why he's been politically correct. time is running out this week government officials and climate scientists from all over the world are meeting in berlin germany to finalize a un study on climate change and its solutions and while the study has been released yet a draft of it. and it's pretty damn stunning the draft report from the international
international panel on climate change the i.p.c.c. says the time is quickly running out for world powers to slash their use of fossil fuels and stay below the two degrees celsius level on global warming in the two hundred nations agreed on back in two thousand and ten more importantly the draft suggests that we only have fifteen years to take the proper actions needed to safely reach that global warming limit not one hundred years now fifty years just fifteen years this meeting in berlin comes just a week after the i.p.c.c. released another report in japan which highlighted the sudden catastrophic and devastating effects that climate change is already having across the globe. meanwhile as the world's top climate scientists are meeting in berlin the president of the world bank jim yong kim is worrying outloud about the effects that climate
change is having on worldwide access to food and water in an interview ahead of next week's meeting of the world bank kim argued that battles over food and water will erupt across the globe within the next five to ten years because of climate change kim said the water issue is critically related to climate change people say the carbon is the currency of climate change water is the teeth fights over water and food are going to be the most significant direct impacts of climate change in the next five to ten years there's just no question about it and arguably as we saw with the events of the arab spring they've already started as the severe drought and rising food prices particularly wheat prices in that region played a large part in fueling the uprisings in tunisia egypt and syria. kim said that he has urged climate change activists government officials and scientists across the globe to learn lessons from the way protesters and scientists came together and
join forces in the battle against hiv and aids he also expressed concern over the amount of research that's being done on renewable energy and solutions to climate change saying is there are enough basic resigns research going into renewable energy not even close are there ways of taking discoveries made in universities and quickly moving them into industry know are there ways of testing those innovations are there people thinking about scaling up those innovations unfortunately here in america things are stall despite the mouth it's proof scientific evidence republicans in washington and frankly across the country are continuing to push climate change denial policies and climate change denial legislation at the behest . to their big oil big coal and big gas bill or just last week republicans in the house had to pass a bill introduced by climate change denying congressman jim brandon stein of
oklahoma that would have forced the national oceanic and atmospheric administration noah to focus more on predicting storms and less on studying climate change as well as of course to help the economy republican code for fossil fuel barons like exxon mobil and the koch brothers. fortunately much to the displeasure of climate change deniers in washington democrats amended that build a clarify that it would only deal with noise weather prediction work and not to cut or stop its research into climate change but despite the no of victory it looks like republican climate change denial efforts may still be working according to a new gallup poll a majority of americans still have low levels of concern about the future impacts of climate change a little more than a third say they worry about a great deal about climate change or global warming. it's time to put an end to all the pseudo science in climate change denial talk whether publicans want to admit it
or not. not only is climate change very real but it's also hitting us a lot harder and a lot sooner than we once thought just a few years ago the world top of the world's top scientists were saying we had decades to address and solve the climate change crisis now we have just a matter of years to convert our energy systems from fossils to sunlight. climate scientist michael mann addressed that urgency on the show recently. if we want to avoid crossing that two degrees c. threshold where the locomotive that is headed down the tracks full speed ahead if we slam on the brakes right now it may take a mile until we stop and that's what's going on with the climate system right now if we are going to avoid passing the two degree celsius threshold we've got to bring our global carbon emissions to peak within the next couple years and start
ramping them down several percent per year we can still avoid crossing that four hundred fifty parts per million c o two level in the atmosphere but we have to start acting now there is an urgency to acting unlike anything we've seen before if we're going to avoid committing to those truly damaging potentially irreversible changes. and here's professor guy in the first in from friday's show discovery discussing his thoughts on how dire the climate change situation is. professor mcpherson it just to summarize the last. segment we were talking essentially you were suggesting. we could see an extinction not just of frogs and minnows but of humans within the next fifteen to forty years is that reasonable restatement. yes that's absolutely right you know we we drive some two hundred species to extinction every day and at some point the species we drive into
the abyss becomes us suspect the vanishing point draws nearer every day we we've waited long enough to address the climate change crisis and in the process we're already creating havoc from superstorm sandy droughts and killer cold and heat waves to the crop failures in the middle east the touched off the arab spring climate change is here now. the affordable care act was a big deal but having a doctor does you no good when the entire human race is faced with extinction we need to mobilize our nation the way we did for world war two and jump headlong into the twenty first century solving the problem of the world's largest polluter os and providing an example for the rest of the world and we need to start today time is running out.
i marinate join me. in that impartial and financial reporting commentary cancer news and much much. only on the best and only. i'm the president and i think a society that i think corporation trying to convey to consume can do and the banks try to get all that all about money and i was actually sick for a politician writing the laws and regulations that bankers. out.
coming up on r t complaints of grown over the u.s. electoral college presidential wins usually are placed on votes from certain big states and sort of a national popular vote but now there's a push to take make a change more on that just ahead and vermont passes a bill to label genetically engineered food the bill passed in the state senate by an overwhelming majority a look at that and other developments on g.m.o. is coming right up and out in the car as well as a planet much like our own has been found the kepler one eighty six is the most earth like planet discovered so far what does it mean could we not be alone on that later in the show. it's friday april eighteenth eight pm in washington d.c. lindsey france you're watching r.t. america. and we begin by talking about the presidential aleck.