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hello and welcome to crossfire all things considered i'm peter all about the war against freedom of speech continues in you guessed it r.t. again is being targeted also has russia given up on trump and will anything stop the leaks in washington. cross-checking news that you need to know about i'm joined by my guest mark slobodan he's an international affairs and security analyst we also have victor levitt he is a political analyst as well as a leading expert at the center for actual politics and we have dmitri bobbitt he's a political analyst with sputnik international or a gentleman as usual crosstalk rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime and and i always appreciate i want to talk about something that's really important
i don't think anybody else in the media at least on television is talking about we know that trump begrudgingly signed the sanctions against russia north korea and iran which we'll discuss further but also part of it was element called countering america's adversaries through sanctions act what is that mark what does it mean at the table and talk about what this hamilton sixty eight is ok so this countering americans america's adversaries through sanctions act is that the final version of this bill that was put forward as originally it was meant to sink should north korea for the missile program an additional senate tacked on to it some sanctions against russia went to the house they changed it around and now it's targeting iran north korea russia. syria and defacto the. european union and companies anything that does business with russia this is
a leading its own and this is this is the media. so. it is another feckless saying sions bill its effects on the foreign policies of any of the countries will have no effect other than to punish the right to do something and as we saw from the effects of the years of sanctions on russia that according to the u.s. government's own assessment treated less than one percent off russia's. media element and i mean they're targeting this television stations you're on right now it's sputnik here essentially saying how good it would be cruel to go back to and what in sixteen are saying i mean this is a century saying that foreign broadcasters do not have first amendment speech rights in this is not been tested legally here it's those are words but if that's right but there is they're targeting certain media outlets and denying them freedom of speech versus a lot of the totalitarian the share of the current american information is here
where we see that the american elites are scared they're afraid that the american people are going to have access. points of view so whether it's our t. whether it's put new whether it's cheney's. or any other in your other they're going to hold going to hopefully that's what they want to keep them and i believe that i'm american station i would go back to the cold war years and. actually in the seventy's some californias the shows broadcast broadcast by russian or by sort of you. going to push a. liberal these days and there were no problems with that but why are there problems today because they see that i would see other broadcasters actually have great audiences the especially large especially in large american city in particular. no you to q but also especially interesting for american intellectual
intellectual spheroid people who from all walks of life who suddenly see that the information they're getting from c.n.n. or from. were a.b.c. or c.b.s. it's just it's actually it's not just junkets that's. propaganda. this is this is something they're scared of the people that the american people are here to see that the reply can speak with all of us they should be free well. actually the money spent on what they call counter in russian propaganda was initially you know mocked for conquering the so-called islamic state so it's a part of this very strange he's afraid you know. the real danger and the real one and fight in a bogus thread named russia and please know that you know the sanctions are targeting north korea you're wrong and russia which is like red tail three
completely different. really do you really going to want to talk about in the problem is that now in order to remove those sanctions you need to change the legislation let me remind you that the jackson amendment stayed for forty years you know. and they don't have any comment was about jewish immigration xander soviet union you know freedom of jewish immigration jews call them a great freely since one thousand nine hundred nine but they're madmen stayed for twenty five years what are you going to talk about this hamilton sixteen it's very important to give it a shot ok hamilton sixty eight is at heart it is a retread of of an online project called proper not all propaganda or not that was promoted by the washington post. that purported to track. russian propaganda social on social media and
anything that echoed rockit russian talking points which ended up attacking everything on the right or the left of the alternative media that ever criticized us foreign policy that ever anyway agreed with anything that russia at any time said was russian propaganda but washington post was forced to a humiliatingly this bad things but the exact same be great neo con jokers beyond proper not now they were officially anonymous at that time the originators but the list was public but anyone who was following along we were going to what we were all the folks who was who was actually behind it the same people were talking clint watts from the daily beast. andrew aaron wise bird who is an arch zionist a just until a few years ago a basement troll obsessively watching anyone who had anything positive to say about
rush on the internet and imagining grand k.g.b. controlled spirits usually going to get there all these pretty graphs and everybody well they're back again and a new iteration this time funded by the german marshall fund a serious at the lance assist think tank and policy project it seems to me is that with this operation is i'm glad you brought up the german marshall because this sounds like a new style operation i mean tracking people on twitter we don't know they don't tell us who they're going to track i mean it's very you know this is a waste of money but it sounds very ominous coming back to what. mark just said about the marshall fund of course it's called the german marshall fund but we all know where who founded that's where the money comes from is not that he saw german it's much more american and the purpose one of the purposes of the marshall and. musician is to keep germany. racist if you're into washington's interests which it
to the facsimile among other things but in that tells you who is behind those proper not and other initiatives and the american taxpayer essentially is paying two to not be able to not have access to alternative points of view to it's almost think about it this way they make an taxpayers are paying so that they would not be able to hear that to us about the state of the country in the us and that's a that's an especially if you just sort of. you know the disposition of their money it's not actually it shows a mindset here i mean again you know they don't what they don't want their monopoly brokers and what they want to make sure the party line is still here it's really amazing how we keep having have to fall back on a very authoritarian rhetoric here because this is exactly what it is uniquely really starts to remind one of george orwell's one thousand nine hundred were in the us in the west you always you know everybody likes to i went to when i went to
school i wrote in one thousand nine hundred four in school and the interpretation was that it's about that so obviously by the soviet union but when you look at the west today when you look at the united states you find those qualities much more represent that in america then then in most other countries the majority well i get scared now every time when i hear their objectives more governmental because it's actually me in a review what it means is they take take spare mining taxpayer money they are not in any way responsible for the way they spend it and they spend it for example on what they call promotion of democracy in ukraine which and create and crudely nationalist regime which starts another war in europe or you know when they say it's non-governmental and then the say it is supported by drum and marshall foundation and it is supposed to crack six hundred twitter accounts that analysts. identify as users of russian propaganda they're not going to tell you who they were
they were going to. yeah like. all of our viewers to take a look at the website ok i mean it is it looks like it's pretty well designed but i have no idea what they're trying to say that it's going to considering the political situation in the u.s. right now where the opposition the political elites are blaming dump for some unsubstantiated relations with russia which we might be folly to either as part of that as part of that this is not just. the main enemy you know the main. source of russian propaganda possed publications all of the mainstream american media just it's enough to read what they ruled two months ago one year ago to see who is third in the truth and who is lying right there can remind you of what they rolled a ball of iraq in the demeanor or effect you know create in the photos democracy in the middle east and then having the dimino effect all over the region but they have this big things but who is no meeting op dramas foreign policy team condoleezza
rice who just recently less than the set and the ideas in the american media the should not be president he doesn't have the dignity and stage it to be president and the cool so the main the main spread if you want of russian propaganda these are the websites or the mainstream newspapers that you should check out in seconds before you go there this is a serious project now this is heavy hitters bang up job every step is michael mcfaul former ambassador to russia bill kristol harsh neo con. michael morello clinton surrogate and former director of the cia this is this is heavy and the orders now actually called the center for securing democracy and we're going to break here but you know that's just everybody feeding at the trough mark ok after a short break we'll continue our discussion on. real news stayed with hard.
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less right i mean you work with these sanctions who are listening and i would say great and attempted economic war which you know as we all know one of our audience probably knows our trade relations between russia and united states are really quite limited in almost meaningless now but it is for the europeans i mean so the worsening of u.s. relations will also see a worse and worse an e.u. american relations will that make the e.u. reconsider its position well look every time when your american administration came into the white house from the beginning of this century let's start with george bush jr he came in and the relationship between moscow and washington there were usually moscow hopes and i would say that would improve from that night in fact in one of the meetings summits between forty. bush the american presidents well he was able to look into putin's soul and he liked what he saw what did those
two tearooms bush's two terms in the white house and with the and that with the abrogation of the ballistic missile treaty by washington. of only the national state religion it ended with the war in georgia where the georgian or g.m. attacked the south the city of with a green light from from washington it would never do that without that without one you unapproved piece exactly and killed dozens of them and what happened next next obama comes in again there are hopes reset there he said yes and there was even misspelled and said something very different that was almost all controlled heat is what it said. it which is what the actual business it was initially and so the start and it goes with a look at the. obama's eight years in the white house and at the lowest. point in the russian american relations since the mid eighty's and then. wins in
november again their hopes in moscow hoping against hope there are the new administration will be interested in dialogue in dialogue in normalization of relations between moscow and washington now what do we see we see first of all we see every single branch of power in the u.s. from congress to the special services to the media and others making sure they get every possible action to make sure that this administration is paralyzed their lives and cannot cannot between us but but i also want to to point out that their new stations of first phone call between trump and whether stomps the took which in this was. this was january twenty eighth eight these after the inauguration he. it's criticizing the start of three three two maybe we did not want to prolong it.
in the february twenty eighth which is says no we do not let me. look for it said that this is a internal dynamic of american politics what i believe it's much more than. double whammy. what it is this century making sure relations don't improve and to take the president down in the process the fact midriff. i'm no fan of prime minister dmitry out of it pointed out correctly pointed out that. trump has essentially had executive particularly foreign policy the primary parag of the us presidency usurped by him and then he was weak to sign this bill now that being said he was correct however as many russian liberal opposition pointed out made bit of himself as hardly to one to comment about this he played it being president for six years made several disastrous mistakes when he was actually granted real power
including trying to appease the west by libya by not vetoing the security council resolution that the u.s. used to destroy libya russia and china both abstained several other disastrous mistakes attempting to appease the west putin decided he needed to come back and. seemingly willingly step down it did not run again himself abrogating to another weakness the guys were looking at really important i want to talk about north korea here. one of the things your viewers to go to. you tube page and there is the debate. unanimous voting no new sanctions here i would like our viewers to compare with the russian ambassador to say the chinese ambassador in just about everybody else russia and china did vote for a diva but they have a plan to move forward the west doesn't that's the big. probably know that's the big problem and early mind all of us that one minute video was the president
rushing import sanctions on iran russia went along with sanctions against north korea and there were no russia is important sanctions on north korea so but but like i just said important thing is here is how a plan to move forward i mean when i saw from the u.k. from the americans is that something must be done something must be done the usual mantra they don't know what to do that's the problem here the chinese and the russians have proposed jointly jointly how to move forward on north korea and that is very important because the only two major powers i see pushing diplomacy are because that's what we need we do have voices in the united states talking about a preventative war this is insanity well look at the way that that's going on but now he went to iraq and what happened with the ever increasing sanctions regime against iraq year after year the sanctions would be deepened that increased but why didn't with hundreds of thousands by some estimates of children and those people
who was our landlord and you remember what madeleine albright said once about that and where did it end it ended of course the sanctions they never bring down a new regime but the americans finally after after years of sanctions that crippled iraq's economy that crippled iraq's infrastructure that killed hundreds of thousands of people they finally accept went in there you put a gun what do you think it's exactly so now so now we see a similar to rejected developing towards north korea of course russia and china as nations that border north korea and that know full well just as the americans know that people young has no intentions to attack the united states if there's no intention to attack their access. or cloud working out i would also submit here these i.c.b.m. so you know mark a lot of intelligent people are. these are intermediate range missiles that have a little extra fuel ok there is no guidance system on there there's no evidence
whatsoever to have been able to minute miniaturize a warhead here i mean the language coming out of the western media the pliant liberal media and the establishment the us is really frightening were net right even close to this campus situation and they claimed that russia has some serious doubts on this range of this warhead of this missile its ability to deliver a warhead in its ability to withstand re entry they're most likely years away from from anything resembling a real i.c.b.m. but you know we've been here before we hear tony blair talking about forty minutes thank you for it and that's where we are but russia and china have both made i think a terrible mistake and agreeing to these sanctions now russia and china both recognize that north korea is being needlessly provocative here but they also recognize that they have a very good reason for wanting a strategic deterrent with the united states massing in conducting constant war
games on north korea's borders we did that down this path before with iran and the u.s. use sanctions against iran to punish them for years russia is now being sanctioned for the third time the united states has in iraq you know this because to these sanctions is china and russia iran north korea's borders they have to be very very careful they're just going to have one peaceful solution to the north korean crisis . that will stop provocative exercises. north korea's. security scare and here is provide additional security guarantees by the united states by south korea that there will be no deck against those caveats and so it will u.s. will never do that of course a little bit never say never the u.s. everything you know there's nothing like it's going to make sure you watch this program goes out. i said exactly what i said numerous times but the through it point is that the north korea already had an agreement with its
nuclear program in the ninety's and who did what and who walked away it was the bush jr administration that walked away and of course the clear walked away and that's when that's when north koreans e started their program so what is the solution the key to the key is to talk the keystone you do it in the key is to sign new agreements are always most but three conditions that is not what the american expansionist power elite is looking for in this case i mean a demon the head yes i just wanted to say that when victor says there is a negative trajectory you know always at the beginning of the american president is connected with them and with only a much closer because it's not only russia but i think we have an ideological pattern here we have the united states which wants to expand its influence we have russia for good will and president made video when he was president he was the main like of this said to do it in russia and they said you do it simply fails because
and that's why i made available so that's why if you use this language a full fledged trade war against russia because the last call for a compromise vanishing you know now that the united states is probably going to leave our s.m.d. treaty you know there is a valuable legislation in the congress and introduce but there's no it's there's no initiative given to russia to want to have that we lay she is we know that it's not even going to be right now to discuss shutting the door right now we're really in the beginning of a new cold war whether whether. on both sides want to see it or not and the americans have more frequently called russian adversary than not we're really in the beginning of a new cold war and fortune would have been to begin a new cold war since two thousand and eight zero zero zero is really as we're doing the prehistory of the. little the so-called nuclear may seem to me to be pushing mystic about it the safety of the cold war so. sixty two after the cuban missile crisis we're not here to do or here we go we're getting really academic here
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