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topic doesn't belong on the piece now i've interviewed you. question more. greetings and sal you taishan us all right it is the weekend my hawk watchers thing really we are all still here and after all these saber rattling this week the united states and north korea are still in the let's trade insults so military industrial stocks rise phase of international diplomacy but but there is a lot more happening in washington this week than just the kim jong missile measuring contest this week it was uncovered that war fatigue played a much bigger role in the election of donald trump than any alleged russian hacking
after a new study by researchers from boston university in the university of minnesota law school uncovered that if three states key to victory pennsylvania michigan and wisconsin had suffered even a modestly lower casualty rate all three could have flipped from red to blue and sent hillary clinton to the white house but hey you know tell our grads let's just you know keep on keeping on when it comes to that neo liberal foreign policy of bombing for peace but while the democrats were in shambles this week that didn't prevent the republicans from starting their own dumpster fire inside their party over the h.r. mcmasters pink slip spree in the national security council meanwhile and what i'm sure will bring even more animosity between c.n.n. and the republicans the cable news network recently unveiled a brand new poll revealing that sixty eight percent of u.s. citizens believe the current congress is an abject failure in fact just twenty four percent of americans approve of the leadership in the republican controlled
congress down from thirty nine percent in january so with the war fatigue setting in in this sabers beginning to rattle one. given the current congress is rain getting searcy lannister like approval numbers oh i think it's time we start watching the hawks. that's. at the bottom. like you know that i got. this. week so. what is the what are the hawks lions i robot are up and down capitol wallace joining us today is deputy editor deputy editor and columnist for the daily caller scott creator welcome to you thanks for having me yes thank
you glasgow so i got to ask when this this report that we saw you know talking about war for to playing a much bigger role in the election than i think anybody in this country wants to admit when you see you know the numbers coming out of the pennsylvania wisconsin and michigan a lot of the people who lost the most due to the iraq and afghanistan war went to trump because he promised changes i want to get i says but going to iraq was stupid we shouldn't be getting involved in these altercations taking that into consideration and all of what's going on now with north korea and you know reopening in afghanistan all of that. is that going to hurt trouble down the line if he decides to run again in two thousand and twenty the fact that he you know one could say your goodness involved and even more wars when you're said you're going to kind of pull back and just focus on isis well when it comes to afghanistan that's a different situation because almost the american public is not really aware that we're still in afghanistan it's a problem they don't recognize even though we have troops dying every week people don't really realize that it's happening i mean there's very so few people that war
affects in this country now that not many people realize this unless you're you have a relative over there so the public has kind of forgotten they were in afghanistan so even if you send more troops over there unless we have a greater number of them dying then i don't think that's going to hurt his numbers now with north korea that's a different matter if we do you know have a nuclear war that there's something sacré zero something that it's a large scale war that's going to be a major problem we have a land war something of that magnitude you know this could be a big problem and i think that the american public would be very happy if we peacefully resolved north korea thing that would be a huge win for trying yes but if it leads to violent conflict and war you know people nuking everybody definitely going to be bad or even you because you didn't have to be in these type of violent conflict is going to be a major problem any any new conflict that the american gauges and whether it's the creased involvement in syria where we're not fighting isis that we're fighting
assad or another you know factions there that's going to be a problem for trying because how are you going to defend you know we have the failure of iraq in libya there merican doesn't one nation building more it always fails and how does he explain this to the public. that's going to be tough it's going to be a tough across you know a most of it's a minefield for lack of a better term right and i think a lot of people were one issue voters not sort of thing they didn't want what happened with democrats they didn't want another hillary clinton and they didn't want that kind of that world but now i wonder and i think i ask you is with all of the mcmath. brouhaha happening out of you know now all of a sudden it seems like there's this clash within the republican and within the white republican party and in the white house itself there seems to be this clash are we looking at the republican party the same divide that sort of the bernie divide and democrats where it seems to be splitting people right down the middle when it comes to foreign policy yes it's unclear how this plays out among average
republican voters it's very clear that average democrat voters are split on these issues that bernie hillary factions are but when it comes to foreign policy it's a little tough to make out but there is a growing noninterventionist side that you know has been building up ever since the ron paul campaigns and now it's very big it's in the white house i mean echoing a lot of what ron paul said in his winning campaign especially on iraq and other issues so there's a lot of people who you know that when they see afghanistan like why are we still there that sixteen years you know after the taliban is just as strong now as it was in two thousand and one why are we still there why are we sending more troops there we need these explanations and there is certainly a lot more support for just pulling out than there were among republicans there was you know twenty eleven twenty two of the i mean obama campaign in two thousand and eight about increasing our role in afghanistan we're going to pull out of iraq there and focus on afghanistan now we see that very little has changed since then i
mean there's more support especially within the republican party not entirely and you see it too because like when you look at like the trajectory of the democrats it's like they you know they want all of two thousand and six in congress get us out of the war ticket in the middle polos remember them didn't you that basically we've just kind of sat on their hands wars increase drone bombings and cruise was all that kind of happened over obama you know we're still record low numbers of the fiasco going to take place with the health care about things getting done at least you know from the outside looking in the president's numbers are falling dramatically if you look at the polls. you know and this is all i think due to this kind of political infighting and also an economy that yes you see these major wins on wall street but i don't think the average everyday americans are can feel that you know the guys in new york on wall street can feel the major win but most people across the country care about are we do for another i mean you know are we do for a massive kind of political upheaval in this country not of like you know revolutionary violent kind of sense but just in
a you know ideological sense in the next two elections well you already have one in twenty sixteen trump should have never won a everything he articulated in the primary was antithetical to what republican says is going to be the winning ticket in twenty sixteen you know whether it's immigration trade foreign policy you know marco rubio is considered the future of the party and he was the polar opposite of trump and all these issues yet trump won not only primary but the election on that so that was a huge help he will but this is only can continue down the line especially when you mention with the economy of the economy you know stagnates or gets worse you know that's we hugely issues in twenty twenty i mean there is a i think twenty twenty is going to be just as crazy but election as twenty sixteen if not crazy if we can imagine that i think democrats are preparing for this primary that would make the republican primary look civil and twenty sixteen think in especially if the economy is better that there's you know unnecessary for
entailments and all these matters over to the twenty twenty is also going to see the huge influx of what i think it's like the millennium goals are going to make up what forty percent of the voting bloc in twenty twenty or so let's also going to play a really major role in kind of shaping up that election too because you don't know where they're going to go yet right and i think that's the leads me into another question which is you do have these millenniums that don't fall into the two farsighted spectrums and the spectrums are so messed up like that the two parties of the democrats essentially become. you know interventionist pro-choice conservatives. the ninety. nine years are probably going to and republicans are sort of struggling they're struggling with younger voters to either they're they're only looking at two spectrums it's either the super you know. side or this never trump or so they have these two sides that they're dealing with in the republican party serve as it is or are they going to have to sort of face the purple elephant
in the room that the base of the base isn't what it was before or that there is a whole bunch of sort of disaffected somewhat conservative young people who don't have a party that speaks to that they are going to address it but it socked with the things that they think that that is going to win over people they still believe that that somebody like bin sasser marco rubio is somehow going to win over that is still the consensus among republicans they think that trump is the old party that's eventually going to go away but they had these debates in twenty thirteen that what the party needs to do is out do more outreach to hispanics and other groups the traditionally don't vote republican. and that's why they want to support for immigration amnesty and all that but one and still even got more hispanic votes than mitt romney did and i think even the same number of the john mccain did john mccain campaigned on amnesty in twenty two thousand and eight so clearly show that wasn't the case for winning over these voters i think they can survive in some ways
but they have to double down on who is switching over to the republican party it's primarily these disaffected working class voters in the midwest in these areas that you know they see the democratic party is not helping them they're not helping their economic interests they don't they lecture them on cultural matters so there are all of these growing number of disaffected voters in these areas that are kind of forgotten about i mean in minnesota in michigan in wisconsin that is almost a better future and these people are willing to vote for republicans these demographic groups of the always say you know the stereotypical millennial worrying about avocado. i'm now going to start voting for you know republicans they're more worried about of winning over that person than they are about you know an unemployed or a semi employed thirty year old who only has a high school degree that person is more likely to vote for republicans than the you know. do you think that someone has as to do with the fact that democrats have for the democratic party at least for so long has focused on who can give them
money rather than who they can help because i think it's true the people in wisconsin and michigan they've been left behind totally left behind but are they just going to get used by another party and left holding the bag are you saying the democrats only care about who's giving the money or the robot if you saw the photos that i know now both or both are correct when i say no i think there's an effective middle person soon as they say and i'm like yeah who is going to have i would say democrats that we've talked a lot about there's been a lot of talk about how republicans are in thrall to their donors who care about that very few people care about i mean that's like privatized health care that's overwhelmingly oppose mother general population and all these other matters that people don't really care about and it's less talked about how democrats are controlled by the donors who are mainly motivated by social and cultural issues that a lot of which aren't as big a deal i mean gave marriage as legalized that's not as big of an issue for voters now i mean. there's other issues that they can focus on but they are more focused on social issues and
a lot of these people are also leaning you know center right on economic issues they don't like single payer they don't like you know more taxes that a lot of the democratic base so bored so i think in some ways in two thousand and twenty you're going to see something that we saw in twenty six when they were g.o.p. primary trump represented the republican base but was fervently opposed by the donors and his message yet is still one that could still the similar thing could happen with the democrats were somebody who represents the democratic base on these economic issues beats out the people who are more pro wall street more oh corporate i could. definitely see that well let me ask you this last question is what do you feel is you know do the independents have a shot you know would we see you know either the two parties kind of split themselves because there's so much in fighting against the war or you know going very quickly do you know do you think and the president's candidates have a shot in the upcoming next elections well i think they're one independent candidate may have a shot as mark zuckerberg which i think everyone says the most terrifying thing we
have ever had to have all right on that terrible. scott was the daily caller but you so much for going on today and talking with us as we go to break our watchers don't forget to let us know what your pick of the topics we've covered on facebook and twitter see our poll shows that are coming up we discuss of the united states of too many top secrets with chief united states district judge john to time and then a preview sean stone is fascinating interview with investigative author edwin black stay tuned for watching the whole. i'm tom hartman and i'll give you what the mainstream media can't the big picture will go deeper investigate and debate all so you can get the big picture. it's called the feel we go through. every the world experience.
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in the mainstream people who question the unexplained and undocumented parts of history are often called conspiracy theorists but the simple reason conspiracy theories tend to develop is just that a lack of explanations and documentation living with a government that classifies every other piece of paper as top secret for little to no reason whatsoever any intelligent person would ask what do they have to hide the federal judge john tonight and the chairman of the commission tasked with declassifying the documents surrounding the j.f.k. assassination joined us earlier to discuss this monumental task building on that we also asked him to share his insight into the role secrecy plays in our democracy. one of the things that comes up is this culture of secrecy the issue surface you know this recently during this cia torture investigation when all of that sort of came out and then again with the hillary clinton e-mail scandals of last year and
the year before and they go on forever and whatever but i'm wondering if you can give us a little insight here because it seems like our government has a serious problem with secrecy and classification and when it comes to official records in your opinion what you've seen is this something that's being used primarily for somewhat political purposes or is it really actually properly being used in terms of security concerns to american citizens. but we certainly found a lot of information from the one nine hundred sixty s. still classified as top secret which could have been released many many years before and this culture of secrecy which i think does exist. certainly contributed to widespread mistrust of the warren commission report and conclusions and certainly. it went on to the government in general as the years went
by i think we do classify too much information. do you when you look at the situation someone who is reviewing information and deciding to classify that person is thinking well this could be classified maybe not well if i don't classify it and then all of a sudden it becomes a big deal there's a congressional hearing i have to testify guess who gets fired me the person who's deciding not declassify information it is simply easier to stamp classified information let someone else make the decision later and unfortunately the decision later doesn't come for many many years in the regular routine of declassification which is done but there are many many years behind because there's so much information we were fortunate to do our work in the one nine hundred ninety s. at a time when the cold war had ended we had a relatively good relationship with russia and the countries of the former soviet
union at the time nine eleven hadn't happened yet and the rise of violent extremism was not something that was on anyone's radar screen so we were able to declassify a lot of information that would have been more difficult to classify in the eighty's or even a decade after we did our work but i do think there's too much classification i think presidential standards about what should be classified need to be reviewed very carefully to make sure that over classification doesn't occur because if you're a researcher and you're trying to get a copy of a document that's been classified you have to use a freedom of information act you might get something but it's going to be heavily redacted it's probably not going to help you understand the situation very well even though the information clearly could be released.
and five minutes left but as a senior federal judge you know have you encountered issues with your classification in your courtroom. but you can speak of obviously were public transparency had to take a backseat to to the german or exaggerated or secrecy concern that you felt maybe that this didn't need to be classified and this is actually in the ring you know our ability to properly you know and not just us in this country. well i think it's somewhat unusual here in minnesota for us to get cases involving classified records except for terrorism cases and then it usually involves a bit of a fight between the intelligence agencies and the judge and i've done this myself as to what can be used during a trial and therefore seen by a jury. you know if we can declassify those records. largely surveillance
intelligence records on suspected terrorists who later get charged then we can have a much better open trial and people can understand where the information came from when there's a fight over a classification sometimes it involves charges being dropped because the government doesn't want to release classified information so i think that's hampering effective prosecutions in some cases. i think that most of the time we don't see information like that weird we try very hard not to seal information so it is available to the public where a public court system in the public should be able to see what we are doing i couldn't agree more. united states district judge of the u.s. district court for the best. judge to turn thank you so much for coming on that day and. back on again. much like to do that. when it comes to the storable impact of empire and war no region remains as deeply
affected as the middle east with arbitrarily cardboard or a centuries of religious warfare and a deep well of the. friction the two hundred million strong region has long been a hot bed of war and political crisis and its very heart lies israel and palestine in one conflict or another going further back than anyone can remember and with a historical background arguably more complex than any in the world but as they often say one cannot truly understand the present without studying the past sandstone sat down with author and investigative journalist edwin black to understand more about how the political turbulence of the twentieth century gave rise to the middle east issues today here's a preview of their conversation first of all we have to understand the times and this was a time of the emergence of national movements there was the armenian national move movement at the turn of the of the twentieth century the late nineteenth century there was to greeks and hungary and many other national movement step means that
people wanted to determine their own affairs based on their identity without being patrolled by foreign capitals and one of these movements was the jewish national movement that is jewish nationalism is due to were definition for zionism and in eight hundred ninety seven the jewish national movement of modern jewish national movement was launched as zionism and in one thousand no wait it spawned a second local national movement called the arab national movement at the time of nine hundred seventeen there had already been luminous discussions with groups about taking apart and of course the allies dismantling turkey and the turkish territories in the ottoman empire and numerous national states were promised to arab groups and one state was promised to israel
under certain conditions and that then became. in international movement there wasn't one belfour declaration there were actually five there was a similar one in france a similar one in the united states and there was even a. in official balfour declaration if you will in germany and turkey that actually owned the land and have the right to make sovereign decisions and so of the many states that were created by the map makers in the post world war one. they made syria they made lebanon. and other states iraq they also made the jewish national home which at that time was known as palestine. so what we see here is there was a real opportunity in one nine hundred twenty to have permanent peace it's true the oil companies had a hand in drawing the lines but there were no national borders in the middle east
there were no nations in the middle east there were colonies and those colonies. were run by the ottomans and within those colonies were tribes and so what the british did was they actually invented states and allowed the arabs to go into nationhood many of the arabs however did not wish to go into the nation the best way really for to bring peace to the middle east. is remove the moneybags take the cash out. if gutter can remove its fun and the rand could remove its funding for hamas if the united states can stop giving a quarter to a half a billion dollars a year. to the palestinian authority. and of which approximately a half of all foreign aid goes to pay terrorists salaries if you let these people
just live together and work together you will see peace emerge but what is the biggest export of the palestinian territories the biggest export is terror it terrorism the need for foreign aid and the and the unrest created by this horrible status quo people should be left alone or remember the third largest political party in in israel with eleven percent of the vote necessary to quite a bit of the country going on is the arab party created by a coalition of. arab parties that there are two hundred thousand arabs both muslim and christian who are working every day in as israeli citizens driving buses coding computers working in hospitals working in factories their engineers their everything some thirty thousand palestinians are crossing the line every day to
work in those same to work in those same jobs nothing will bring peace. into the middle east by letting people get on with their peaceful relationships but when but when when israel and its. and post nine hundred sixty four palestinians are constantly in the throes of an in an international game being played by the e.u. by the united states by russia by the oil kingdoms it's impossible for the peace to come to the to the surface. go on strike out strong storms take on that and that is our show for you today remember everyone in this world we're not told them up to the ups or tell you all i love you i am tyrrel but for and on top of keep on watching those hawks number great day and night everybody.
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