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community well it's interesting you say that because the view in moscow and let me know if you disagree with that is that the iranian influence is indeed growing there is no dear dispute about that but most believe that partially it is growing because of israel's own policies or the policies of israel's closest allies it all started to be with the invasion of iraq which allowed iran to gain a foothold there was a campaign in the israeli compound in lebanon beach consecutively led to hizbollah gaining more influence and dot country down was syria and now there is yemen don't you think that at least in part the iranian influence that you are so concerned about is growing because all of the opportunities that were handed to it by israel or israel's allies no way i mean to accuse east for iran being a state that would not accept the right to fish oil to exist that supports still the way they think in yemen how this is connected to it and listen it is most
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important to discuss the situation now and what need to be done and that's i said before let's take an example it's a totally slogans designate that though we still got these asian we don't fund we're talking about living on the states what kind of state. which is big in france and in a way the proxy off another state in the region and though full i would not take and the assumption both is what influence over sponsibility for we haven't but i think it is well important now anyway to do with the situation so i would not say that this is an easy situation now and i would say that these complicated but this is still a local schools have been in. the international community including russia to give and also to these and when we look at the region the two different camps one is the camp of these extremists. those that are supporting thoreau and for meat is
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less important whether it is she up though also not the silver though it's clear. both of them should be not acceptable well you mentioned about you mentioned that we need to deal with the situation as it is on the ground and russia's ambassador to the united nations of a silly bandz it just recently said that in moscow's view iran is playing quote unquote a very constructive role in syria so obviously there is some appreciation of what iran is doing on the ground given that the russia appreciates iran's role there do you think there is still a room for moscow to accommodate israel's concerns and to what extent do you believe israel's concerns have have to be accommodated i think that both states both countries should put on the table the mutual interest and it's not only accommodate eastwards interest. let's speak of old and let's speak about what is the best. what is best for all of us. to hopefully the
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situation in syria. will change we won't iran is a state that supports still as a superpower will and region and as i said before this is almost not only the concern of fees but in the past when we need to the solution seventeen against russia will spot a feat in an understanding that this is that there was the when these asian so even though i know iran these being. those that are fighting others in syria and in the region let's speak. to let's speak now about the situation the day after and let's try to minimize their influence in the future because it's going to leap of logic not only for you as well i can assure you absolutely and i think there is there is also a keen understanding that in the medium term. iran also represents
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a political and economic competitor for russia in the region but again there is also a realisation that to be iraq without iran you cannot stabilize syria or perhaps the region more generally if you had the away if israel had its way. what exactly would you do i mean is there anything short of wiping iran of the map that would completely. allay iranian israeli's concerns what could give you peace of mind. you know it's a tough region to speak about peace of mind in the return is something which is more than optimism but i will speak about minimizing damages or meeting the challenges so. as i said before let's look at the region form in the kind of satellite perspective and iran in the past the wall dealt with iran on their nuclear program and they reached an agreement now firstly we need to see that this
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agreement is being implemented as he should secondly as long as he runs support still the entire international community should say to run this is not acceptable you should stop firing on this into perspective violates hamas saw this is what they do in the place but this is something that i believe israel should see too good there. with russia of course with the united states with other states and to say ok it's not just you know a small israeli problem let's look at the region you know into plus they think that there are those thinking the locum seen the return of the pope himself but they think that the reason but on the standing now in the internal will the thwarts opening here can influence and effect other parts of the world let me ask you specifically about syria because you keep talking about iran supposedly supporting terrorist organizations because they're all of the syrian conflict israel.
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proclaimed neutrality but i think it's not this secret internationally that your diplomatic ties with geo political sponsors of the so-called syrian opposition. we're becoming increasingly more accommodating and by and by that i mean first and foremost saudi arabia we also we all know supports terrorist organizations what is the beef wouldn't it be fair to say that in syria israel found itself on the losing side and now you are trying to get your way through diplomatic means speech is fair but. that doesn't mean that you should get all that you are asking for. no not at all i will not accept it this well since they won the side the notes to involved in the situation in syria we are just trying to help those wounded people that are trying to come of them were wounded fighters and wounded jihadists we are helping those that need and the coming to israeli border and give them and hope them in
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these very host but this is this is human the italian stuff but these oil is not involved in the situation in syria and rightly so but we do hope that the end game or what would happen the in the end would not affect the security and those no position these are the longest and the awful since i believe in international diplomacy i believe that this is something that. the legitimate from these for the site concerns of the table and to have a better understanding that all concerns should be and are i believe the concerns of those in the region that when you mention other and others in the region i know that you are very passionate about democracy and its values but i don't think you would contend the gulf states as well as cherokee were so keen on overthrowing the assad regime because of dire appreciation for. democracy i think it was pretty clear and tell me if you disagree with that that from the very beginning the
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support for the syrian opposition was driven primarily by the animosity against iran and dot objective wasn't achieved throughout this conflict is that not a fair portrayal i would like to refer to the positions of other states in the reasons and the reason for them to to make this position on the other as i said before is not involved in the situation in syria and i believe in general that when it comes to will and those extremists in the region let's not take one till we still go in the session as the answer to the other two. we're still going to search and that's all and that's good i hope we can confront total from coming from all sides unfortunately well it's since you mention terror most recent terrorist attacks in europe including russia were conducted by sunni terrorists the so-called islamic state is a south sunni supremacists who executed shias kurds easy as i'm sure they would
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have no problem whatsoever targeting jews in practical terms if you take. iran out of the equation who can take on dodgy heidi for is because i don't think it would be a fully fair to refer iran the state of iran as a terrorist organization that's a political interpretation of israel but if you take the iranian israel out of the equation altogether who will be there to. force all of us need to confront the all digital going to search on the before before me whether it comes home soon ideology or she ideology just less important. for all of us the international community should conform those and we have states the poor to always still go on these asian like iran and. toes solving social issues themselves and we need to act against them and i believe that we need to act against them forcefully and this is something that the international community should do and
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those will do you would not find me supporting the. you know living with the situation. she's doing against against all of us because they would not a compromise on i would systems but how then would you explain explain the ease rails position of neutrality in the syrian conflict if you're so willing to confront terrorist organizations why didn't israel jump on board to joint russia in syria how to exterminate the jihadi force their down that the iranian influence perhaps would have been somewhat curtailed. i hope that you would not suggest the. soldiers to fight in syria as it would not happen hopefully and i hope that this is not just but how then i mean i don't want to be argumentative but how then because there is a practical need for somebody to be there in syria russia doesn't want to send its troops there israel doesn't want to send its troops there the united states doesn't
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want to do that that leaves the only option and the only option is iran israel israel is a completely different situation because unfortunately those the abusing and the thing the fact that the partly public opinion in the arab world is against israel and this well is being seen as the enemy that takes one of the position that can be exploited the bow by the enemies to say that it's not about syria but this is the entirely israeli. jews jewish muslim conflict this is something called the total of the situation and this is the sponsibility but they believe that all the is enough power in the world and the ability of the international community to conform to go with will live on whatever is the kind of though as i said before with. no shia and since your. silly deal we're still going
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to say certain unfortunately on the palestinian side hamas the for isn't the religious side of the conflict. they represent also in a way. ideology that would never accept our right to live in peace in the region using and this is something also that need to be by the international community and of course is. acting against it when when we should well let's let me let's discuss your ideas on the resolution of these really palestinian conflict in just a few moments we have to take a very short break that we will be back very soon stay tuned. koufax geysers financial survival guide liquid assets are those that you can convert into caste quite easily. to keep in mind though as
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. but then my feeling started to change you talked about more like it was a cave still some more fun to view those that didn't like to question our arc and i secretly promised to never be like it's one does not leave a funeral in the same as one enters mind gets consumed with this one to. speak to us there are no other takers. to claim that mainstream media has met its maker. welcome back to worlds apart with the believe me a prominent israeli politician on former foreign minister of israel let me you've
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already alluded to the israeli palestinian conflict and i know you've been a loyal proponent of the two state solution you claimed that's what the majority of the israeli public wants if that's the case why do people keep voting mr netanyahu and his party into power. for the good question or yes according to the polls not only my you know. thoughts the reason one sure thing these are supporting the idea of two so useful to people some peace. there's no way. leave the reason on the other side that there is no hope for peace unfortunately both of my responsibility here as a leader is to try and convince these not to give up and they might say. i was a little bit too mystic until a few months ago when i thought. may be. really
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make the deal which is essential for the future of the state to feel good hope that he will do so but. i'm less optimistic to mystic these days well before i ask you about why you're less optimistic let me ask you one more question about the two state solution because. as i understand your argument you believe that she states is the only option if israel wants to remain democratic but it is my perception that in many advance democracy is democratic practices democratic institutions even democratic notions democratic ideas i being put to the task of what used to be considered marginal or even extremist ideas are now gaining prominence and becoming more and more mainstream do you think the notion of democracy as you understand it will stand the test of both time and the test of regional turbulence because regional her bones obviously propels many of those extremist and radical ideas to the center and i agreed to to see all over the walls . we see few taking place instead of hope and this is
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something the need to address but you you spoke just about democracy i would like to speak about the state of israel as a jewish democratic state and this is a medal of it's not just a matter of system and the fulda way to keep develop. the meaning is to divide this tiny place into two different states one of the gifts to the nation of the spiritual of the jewish people and the other is an honest to the months of the national movement of the palestinians and the full going back to. beginning to follow discussion i believe that acting against these extremists those the three percent unsolvable the latest conflict by till all this is something that need to be handled by all of us but i suppose. getting the most strength to them all the small of the rates in the region i mean nobody's perfect and i would not
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suggest that the way the model see is great. every state these are the more closely in the region but. also as jews and as of the more context is equal rights and though for we need to settle it for the palestinians we have. equal right citizens but we need to embrace the idea of two states for two peoples each state gifts and little nation on the spiritual of different peoples the palestinian state will be demilitarized the palestinians all of the agreed to this and this is secure within the months and also the interest of the road nobody wants in the states in the region or failed states in the region now going back to your negotiations with the palestinians i heard both you and faber the chief palestinian negotiator express guarded optimism concerning the trumpet ministrations willingness to restart the
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talks that was about three months ago i gather you are not as optimistic as you are right unfortunately because you know when we had this meeting the first meeting between trump and the trump and i will maz and then him his visit to the region crumble speaking about the big deal and the recently one deal that i believe convert can these and can give an answer to both of. this thing ends and this is the two states for two peoples a solution i know that this is something that is being supported by. the entire international community. so there was a possibility here to have everybody supporting something the three percent interest of is sort of the palestinians and the international community what they believe need to be done is to quote both sides full negotiations with the support of the. international community but not just negotiations for the sake of
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negotiations but negotiations on the basis of i mean the idea is to end the conflict on the basis of those states for two peoples demilitarized stein. and this can be the basis just to start flowing we would know well are we going to not just you know move in give our own without any sense of well i think the palestinians would totally agree with you on that i've interviewed a number of hiring people as being officials and this is precisely what we want and they're feeling that they are not getting it from these really side but if i may ask you one more question about the trumpet ministration because it also expressed its intention to contribute to the resolution of the korean conflict so much so that i've now are heard the number of experts suggesting that the stalemate that existed you know between the two countries for several decades wasn't that bad after all especially when you consider the increased possibility of another conflict on the korean peninsula is that in concert and in your part of the world
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that the american mediation at this point of time may make things worse not better well we hope the movie all the hope to north korea would not. know. the wall to accept the situation but i want to say something which is very important since we discussed these sort of palestinian conflict and we did discuss those old extremism in the region i'm not talking now about north korea but then all of those saying that these sort of police stand cornflakes is the reason for extremism in the region and this is something that they were. not except you know that i truly want to solve this conflict i believe that in these early then there. is as well as the international community but the swimming the two would solve this conflict. but on the hamas and full need to be on the stool that we need to solve this conflict and to act against extremism
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and to win the region as well so you know you want to compartmentalize to have did this conflict for everything else that's going on in the region even though as you well know everything is highly interconnected and the one conflict influences in the conflict in many ways i want to seize on something that you said just now and i heard you make that observation before that the successful resolution of these really palestinian conflict would break the so-called glass ceiling in israel's relations with our other arab states i presume you mean mostly gulf states how strong of a motivator could that be for prime minister netanyahu in your view. this is something i mean the arab peace initiative and the arab league this season said that when these would reach peace with the palestinians and we would achieve peace in the region and normalized relations with these violent the full it's not only my opinion this is something which is on the table they all that they said that these negotiable but need to be in the go shared between israel and the palestinians not
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between israel and the of world. full i believe that they're all. is very important for israel and for the palestinians for lease for lease this is really important because you know the average israeli would say ok what's the can we get from the palestinians any peace treaty he's taking some lists we have still coming from the palestinian side we are giving up too early too early. also taking some secure with phyllis so the answer is that this can change the situation of fees when in the region and they'll feel it's not just about giving something to the palestinians but also getting something from d.r. ups this is one thing from these early perspective. but but full from his i don't know political reason so either we don't see a real move toward these well it's interesting that. you make this argument because
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israel has long blocked out the palestinians going to the united nations and trying to internationalize the issue but this sensually you're advocating the exact same thing only that sunni arabs because you can gain your own benefits there i mean how is that different from the palestinians trying to involve the europeans in the international community to how them resolve their issues with you i believe in by a lot on the go shish but i believe that these by a lot of on the go shish and should be supported by the international community not to replace the decisions that is being made by both sides by you will piano are the decisions that the party. i'm not involved in omega they're on the palestinians so doing they're trying to good to support of a palestinian state sixty seven lines the rules the limits this is old these are all issues that need to be in the gauche if this is one why do they have to be negotiated again it has indeed been already knew go shaded and sealed it was
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negotiated we breach some gaps but not enough. for president obama. wanted to put the flame up for negotiations on the table we. even left on the zero except of the with the us invasion but they didn't give us they didn't give an answer unfortunately and the full it's not too late to put something on the. boat to make a decision i'm not suggesting to force the final startle sigrid meant the such but split the something on the table and say to both sides you all invited to negotiate on the basis of the yes or no and make both sides make their own decision this is something which is very important we don't then they look for installed the sensitive issues that the one that they have but but to the basic ok well let me we have to leave it there unfortunately the time is up i really really appreciate your time here with us and to our viewers please share your comments on twitter facebook
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