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tv   Sophie Co  RT  September 15, 2017 2:29pm-3:01pm EDT

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red's. security challenges have appeared during the last. past years as the most. recent attacks in barcelona and. the shrinking border school may not be sufficiently adapted to address the evolving security challenges the migration commissioner was referring to the systematic id checks that were brought enjoying the height of the migrant crisis in twenty sixteen piece this measure will be phased out in november unless officials decide to prolong it well i with the past couple of years europe has seen a whole range of deadly terror attacks where free movement within the e.u. has sanely played into the hands of terrorists.
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so that's how things look today here in r.c. we'll have more news in half an.
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the television station you're watching now in the russian news agency sputnik may find themselves in legal jeopardy in the united states the drive to designate both as foreign agents under the foreign agents registration act is disturbing and it would seem those in power decide who can freely speak. i'm just so family surfing shevardnadze bad lebannon being a small country it is standing firm against a storm of civil war in neighboring syria providing shelter to millions playing the
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violence and an example of future reconciliation. but can the syrian tragedy wake up the ghosts of the wood on its own violent past while today i talked to the prime minister of lebanon mr sock. the war in syria is threatening to spill over to its small neighbor lebanon division and radicalization moving across the porous border into lebanese society the most religious state see this cold war it's real. country so you're away from the threat and resist conflict will succumb to the pressures of refugees or militancy what kind of become a regional example of sustained peace in the post-war future so that the lebanese prime minister it's really great to have you on our show welcome thank you so you've been on a world tour of sorts you went to washington you want to paris securing military and financial aid and now that trip brings you to moscow what exactly do you hope
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can do for levanon playing a political role big birds of order in the region and i believe. you know live among the suffering from refugees from the culture to this happening in syria and iraq and i think we're my first aim is to try to. buy them from many consequences that are happening in syria and other places. also. we've had a very good political relationship with russia i would like also this relationship economically to develop so far we haven't had you know economic. level of you know huntsman like our political. you know our relationship so now i aim to enhance this relationship economically at the same time we believe that we
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should also try to do some you know work with the military here in russia because we. face the same problem terrorism's everywhere and we want to face that kind of terrorism with our allies. but i understand about the economic ties but on these things today with the world that we're living all of the focus is on the military eight so why the drive for the military assistance from all three very different sources why now room we you know lebanon has faced. just a few weeks ago against isis you fear that you know this is going to be a long long fight against isis and we believe in hansing our military capabilities is very important who had a very good programs with the american army. also had some good programs with the french and we believe in the history we've had
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a lot of equipment from russia so we need to get some much more modern. weapons for the lebanese armed forces and our security forces this fight is something that we need to face the need to face it with the best technology you mentioned recent battle but lebanese army has actually been very victorious that recently and fight against isis and back yes do you feel right now that you can maybe take on pon a more proactive role when it comes to fighting ass's and contribute to the coalition and their fight against isis or are you going to limit yourself to the lebanese territory first of all i want to secure my turf to make sure that lebanon is protected. we have a lot of relationship with you know russian intelligence other intelligence or you know doing our efforts would corporation over the world whatever information that we have and expertise you know we live on we have excelled.
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for catching those terrorists before doing anything in the past three years we have it we haven't had any accident we've been able to capture them before. any you know results from their side and this is something that we pride ourselves with we would like to continue on this venue in order to do so we need some some technology to continue doing what we're doing and this cooperation has also helped in catching a lot of terrorists around the world. for instance a few months back we were able to capture some terrorists that were planning to do something on some airline and they were so. you know i think on this trail and there are nine or so we were able to to capture them so we feel good about this one talking more product hermie stay current american president has blamed his
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predecessor barack obama for being inactive in the middle east can you see the difference in american approach now and what do you as the lebanese prime minister expect from trump how can he change your help the middle east i think the results are all of us want to see in iraq what you see in syria today the fight against isis is much more focused much more. cooperative between the nations that are fighting isis and you see that. isis is. losing battle ground everywhere in iraq and syria a lot about iran we believe we hope that focus on this issue is ripe to to to diminish to exterminate isis but the real problem we believe also is. why is there isis what's the reason i systems in iraq why the reason you have isis in syria and i believe my concern is you know
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we've fought all of us. and in iraq and everywhere in the world but the real reason of why this kind of organisation exists is the problem in iraq if they don't forge a real partnership between all sects i believe that my concern and even in syria my concern is you might fight this kind of groups but if you don't have real partnership real political solution long term you know. partnership between the people then there is the this is not the solution unless unless you forge these partnerships unless people believe see that you know there is no different between a syrian and another. than my my concern is you would have something worse than
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isis porton thing is to have a viable political solution that everybody is happy with you know i was speaking not too long ago to another great lebanese man nassim taleb and we're speaking about the syrian war he said you know the lebanese way out of its own civil war could serve as an example for syria do you feel maybe the power sharing agreements decentralization that could work in syria like it did in your country i believe you know the partnership is important to forge i think to the lebanese. solution is quite effective we were able to keep stability especially in times where we saw the structure an all around us in libya and syria and iraq i think it could be it could be a solution. but it's up to the syrians you know in the end of the day we leave. nice sat on the on one table and we agreed to stop the war the civil war
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but later on we have to build the trust and you know the coalitions and the recurrence relation and this is something very hard to be done and i think with the encouragement or with what's happening now when the americans the russians the turks the saudis the venue's i think this is important but i mean obviously a lot of people bring up the example of your country lebanon because it has been torn by the civil war and it is the best example of how after the civil war you can coexist with an inch at their absolute so do you feel i mean first of all i want to talk to you about the direct impact the syrian war is having on your country do you feel like threats like what happened in tripoli is an impasse or something like that could have some of the past i think today you have a much stronger political dissolve in facing any instability eleven i think this consensus government is extremely important for has taken in the important
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decisions but i think the way we're trying to deal with all conflicts in the governor would you know you have to understand. we were we have a government that has a consensus but at the same time we differ on strategic issues so i might be with us but other political parties are with us. but we don't make a fuss about it inside the government so what we are trying to stabilize today is the cover me of the country the stability of the. country the security of the country and all the political arguments we might have would discuss that outside any government but how do you hammer out at united line when it comes to asset because like you you said. or posing as. supporting him speaker of the parliament is somewhat friendly towards damascus how do you come up with
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a common lying no we don't come on that is what we decide to alienate live on. from all these political and strategic decisions and we say that we were trying to become like a switzerland in a way where we don't want to involve ourselves in those quarrels and see save god the. benefit of the country so you never want to be directly involved in the taste making process and i would like to hear what what happened what's important for us is the return of the refugees and i believe today you have almost eight million or nine million syrian refugees around the world and i think any political solution that does not look at this issue specifically. is a solution that is not going to fly i think the importance is to make sure that these refugees go back to syria to safe places i think. they should be
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part of the process anything short of that is not to be viable for the as a political solution but do you feel like your government is ready to send the refugees back to syria because the conditions in syria now are safe enough or is it the case of lebannon no i have it's limits lebanon has its limits first of all but we are you know we are bound with all the international you know reserve oceans and human rights we believe that if there are to be two to go back to syria they need to go back to a safe zone safe areas that the united nation approves that a political solution includes the safe return of those refugees are not kicking them out you just got away with until well into israel prime minister we're going to take a short break. we'll continue talking to lebanese prime minister. stay with us.
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prescribe medication is widespread on the us market frequent cause of death at that point in my life i just felt like everything was ashes my family was literally coming unglued i had planned. to commit some site. presence commonly used we were doing what the doctors told us to do we were being responsible and what the real side effects. was.
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what i did was. legal. and we're back with the lebanese prime minister hariri prime minister i read in an interview to politico you have said that if you want to solve the issue of syria that's your quote you got to talk to the russians i know you made it clear they don't want to be directly involved in a peacemaking process when it comes to syria but yet your position the position of russia. to syria. can there be common ground between
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lebanon and russia when it comes to that so. i think you know what's important to see if you have. where they have less fighting. in southern part of syria i think i think is the reason these areas exist because there is real talks between the americans and the russians and different political parties or countries like turkey like jordan like iran like. saudi arabia so the if this is a serious. political solution that is or this is a part of the solution that will prevail in preparation for the solution to come and i think these these areas are being developed in all parts of syria we agree
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on them we courage them because you see less fighting like schooling and this is something that would you know. in the hands or maybe you know set up the rote towards a political solution so you brought up the three branches of your government and you different things but you know you don't take it out in the public you deal with it behind the scenes and strew that you know the political system in lebanon is spectacular in terms of how you can allocate same amount of power to each of the main religion branches. and it has worked very well after the devastating civil war over do you sometimes feel like maybe this system needs real amping because it hinders decision making or do you think like shaking up things would be too dangerous right now what we need to understand about the ban on after the
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assassination of rafik hariri the billies one through it learning process before hand you had the syrian army inside lebanon two thousand and five and it was by proxy the syrian. where you know somehow controlling the been this is the first time after. you know the syrians pulled from the by the syrian regime pulled from. the first time that after the civil war there have been these are trying to manage their country by themselves so we've had a few experiences an experience where a part of the country were trying to was trying to run the country by themselves it didn't work then another time where we try to unify our efforts to run the country then another. of march tried to run the country by themselves and i think the system today. with this consensus government is is trying to balance. a solution that. we can always better
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but i believe this is in a experience that would have been nice people would have to go through and even ease the authorities have to go through political party and so we can get to the to the ballots where we would we know how to rule the country. here also said recently that right now you're focused on improving the situation between qatar and saudi arabia what can lebanon do here i mean it's kind of far you know i think if there is a dialogue that kuwait is trying to lead i believe the style of this of fortune for for the for for the gulf we decided not to get involved directly because we do not you know the difference is that they have between show there is they know it much better than we do so we will you know stay a you know or for away from this problem but we encourage all the time that
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the kuwaitis are trying to be so you are switzerland in that i am trying to be switzerland and be. lebanese. government has been investing in iraqi kurdistan right and now we have the referendum of independence that's approaching so i wonder what will your position be a possible independent kurdish state we believe that you know this is something the train the iraqis would believe that. a unified iraq is far better for the iraq a unified syria is far better for syria we believe you know this notion of dividing . of countries like this will always serve. will only serve to minimize the capacity of the iraqis as a country or i believe the. arabs in iraq can work
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together and come to if inclusion where you know the kurds feel they have their own autonomy or one way or the other. we would try sometimes and i think dividing countries is it's only you know a few willing the conflict in the region i believe a unified iraq is the solution. i've heard you say many times that hezbollah is not the main force in lebanon it's certainly not the main player it's not controlling the country and now it's heavily involved in the syrian war is it easier to deal with them now that they're distracted with their. anti isis complain i think i think you know we should understand that. assad regime has tried to survive all these years from the only reason he's did survive and it's because of russia. maybe they are other players playing with their genes but the main force
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that was able to stabilize. syria was the policy that russia too towards you know it was that it seemed to work. you know fighting isis and all of that i think . you know. you know my position would disagree with that but at the same time the main reason today there is. it's because russia to this position that. but you just come back from america and you've stated many times that lebanese army has nothing to do with hezbollah and is completely independent. are you so worried that maybe an american congressman not make a difference between hezbollah and the lebanese army do their research you know it's it's a propaganda war in some places we have the israeli lobby is that go and try to put this idea that the lebanese army is controlled by the by hezbollah. you know this
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is not. when i was not yet are you worried about the americans maybe i'll tell you hey we had they are times when the situation we have had long discussions with the american administration. and congress and senate and i believe that we made some success i believe that we should keep on this you know campaign in showing that's what's really been as we just fought the war against isis and hezbollah was and so you know people will always try to put lebanon on. a proxy but we're not proxy for anyone talking about israel you've center requests in the united nations to the city facilitate the signing of the truce between lebanon and israel because officially the two countries are still at war why hasn't it been signed yet what's coming in a way what's gotten we need to stop the hostilities between the two countries after
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the war we you know there was. a period where we need to move actually to the situation over cities and other parts of the segments supposed to be implemented unfortunately israel keeps on barging in to live in these airspace given these maritime. borders and sometimes we find some some some cameras had been somewhere in the ban on implanted by the israelis and this is something that needs to be to stop we believe that. we've you know gone a long way if you. look at this in two thousand and six we had so many different border. you know. differing you know different position that we thought that this is ours the israelis thought that there's now we came down to thirteen points and now so how the maritime border
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between us and israel with this new administration and the united states that is you know engagement on these issues and i believe that we can reach certain certain agreements so no israeli saying that hamas is establishing a foothold in lebanon are there any truth to these claims in the i think just one supporter but then as the evil and you know a country and i think we all know what it's doing and it's also holding its largest military drill in twenty years right next to your border simulating a repeat of two thousand and six lebanon israel war are you concerned are you worried or is this just a technical manure or nothing about the campaign or the proposal and the israelis trying to put lebanon or to put. a country that is not in control of its army and and the security forces we understand you know.
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which we are what we want to live on is them communication overexertion seventeen on to the dock. we are ready to go all the way on this issue all the political parties are pretty into the bone is ready ready the problem is israel throws all these you know. this kind of campaign on live on but yet when you come really on the ground and try to implement solutions you will not see what really gets on your nerves basically is the propaganda more than anything else but it's not the real threat that they are you know you're you know we i'm concerned because the rhetoric on the campaign or on this propaganda has been high heightening ever since. and i think they need to understand that. you know we don't want war i don't think they want war so it's better not to
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instigate and the best way to move away from war is actually to implement things on the ground so if we have thirteen border. points that we have still different different opinions about it there's a tripartite. between us and the united nation and israel meeting monthly we need to resolve these issues at once we need to take the pretext of any war away from from everybody and implement and see how we move to a full cessation of hostilities between us and the. prime minister you are no stranger to threats your father tragically died in a political assassination you also had reasons for awhile to be out of lebanon. has have things changed do you feel like this right is in the past or now that your
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prime minister in the more danger i think there are more enemies these days you know with. all of these groups. but i think you know less security are doing their job with the support of. the job comes with it and the sparks of all that region we have to be careful but it's. just managing well what we call the best of luck in your hopefully you'll come back to russia again soon hopefully thank you for going through.
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with manufactured consensus public. when the ruling classes reject them so. we can all middle of the room sit. room.
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