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tv   Sophie Co  RT  October 27, 2017 2:29am-3:01am EDT

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so great to have you as the guest of our program one more time. to talk about lots to talk about so president trump has announced a new ask down policy in any regard to pakistan he's actually saying that he will cut eight to islamabad if it starts if it doesn't start doing enough to fight the taliban in afghanistan in european is pakistan not doing enough to combat taliban attributed to a change in american policy from the job usually to you know. showed you doubts north korea or maybe some other countries like iran and. the policy still continues to be iran but i do use of russian. nomenclature nomenclature to go deeper. runs the polish
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obama used to speak softly. and is present. to current threat and most will ripley and others. in this particular case they're all seem to have a wish because trump is not in the habit of talking soft so this shit you can go ahead she would to do whatever you like but really the essentially the policy to manage the city and there is you have to begin. steve you keep the bases keep the military presence there is more important than either peace theater or settlement or whether it's no. understand is not in that interest the middle east has not invaded just a list that is turmoil and. united states. cannot play one country against the other it was
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a school which. this. place is an older one still . if the military's and more lived if you continue to buy weapons i understand what you're saying that actually american policy doesn't change just the rest that changes the decor of the presidential face but it's still a little different from every other president he's unpredictable he's on a politician so you never know he mate might as well do what he's saying so if he does sanction pakistan just imagine hypothetically right would that make i mean you would loss he would lose money if that happens. it will have to make sure. not to do that invading i'm talking about sanctioning what is the right. so absolutely already there is hardly anything that we get from that's really is pakistan right let's leave trump aside is pakistan ready right now to sweets
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towards china because i've seen the pakistani foreign minister make visits to china make widgets to russia right after john announced his new afghan policy what do you think china is ready to be pakistan's new patch on well if you're looking for. is would be are for. looking for bush. or for in sort of corporate do. relationship economic development in the region. joining us to ensure the. presence of understudies because you're. dependent on them ok i mean they're pretty little business again one of those myths that have been created these billions of dollars never came. so you know the billions of dollars that americans are supposedly giving pakistan and no this is not the billions some hundreds of millions have trickled down because their action
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their system most of the when you go back to them you know if i understand the development of one state ninety percent of it would go back that was confronted by the developed. people who would in the developments of the for the germans and so forth and then the americans said yes your design our system so that money and you and if there is money i think we're all waiting for the americans you literally stop there so there are some people in pakistan who have been accustomed to this. opium you get out of that initially probably some problem would been learn to stand on your feet and indeed is it this time mushroom enrichment is coming from other sources especially china so what is pakistan ready to do in return because you know friendship is good partnership is good but you know when people are investing money
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in a country they invest something they expect something back what is pakistan willing to do in return for the state the discussion in pakistan right now is hopefully of you not giving away too much because of give this sort of you know pressure to. draw containers in your street because school to go out the establish your nose start running the. opening they're doing to have joining in in due course. i think this is true but enough. of that since but it's one big investment and. they want to do it in the very many different places something. that is openings after all it is the overcapacity of certain things in china. that it gushed
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loney and all the while that it should have crushed. by leach or your distance to help. change oil from the east. you already get plenty of oil from central asia but oil from the middle east. so there is something before when food gets into. the standard. the mix is. much but i want to talk about taliban because. whoever american president is it doesn't matter stumbling point with america and pakistan this is taliban because pentagon always say. the taliban leadership is finding sanctuary in pakistan and i mean observing from the site. i believe them because we have taliban leaders like more
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than one store with omar would died in pakistan then you had the successor was elected in pakistan bin ladden died in pakistan i mean they're now dying in afghanistan right there obviously finding shelter in pakistan so why do you think why does it it's so hard to kick them out from pakistan why should we. then order against us and there is one element remains to. one in short that the americans would leave because the other have been on telly one of haunts the kabul regime the addicting as the. let's say the quislings or for that strange as the subservient regime that is what it is because the afghan taliban no coverage of the copied depends on unites spectrum age for money for military protection and for the political you don't cover series ever americans are financing the kabul taliban
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america. giving ten billion dollars a year billion dollars every year if food the regime because income will this is a seal that relate this spending some money on their own forces but billion dollars is still. that is the investment and without that cover regime cannot sustain the infrastructure that has been created for such an expensive infrastructure. of unassigned is never had we will afford that they before not of me rich for four billion dollars or fifty years their own g.d.p. the a fund in business newbies only two billion dollars so that is the money that is this spending there does the protection they are providing the boat this umbrella of the united states especially the military presence they have would be would regime has reno it. because they would be do you can kill off they thought upon by the
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resistance this is also the history of honest i do we need to tribesmen who resist the other ones who prevail they have the freedom of going to war because moved on an empty space is the regimes in kabul especially a claim for e.g. there does not enjoy that support. remains can find it. weird for the be in the middle is gone so that they can i do to be disposed offloads leave now they're just if they're to be decided it is of unsaved in a finest supported by the word might use alliance cannot sustain itself. on the other hand is the a fund resistance we just called it that it was a fund of the system that has stood the onslaught of the spot for the violence for the last fifteen sixteen years these are the people of the a font only one of the one who had existing. p.g.p.
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is the one basically mainly no sponsor from any spear supported from as here in this way enough on a sunday the i mean i'm going to try to do that they're at you or at your land they're living in the forest that was there it was there to some take that when bit of show many different ways of provoking them to go after us money's one. of the. photos i draw the conclusions maybe another one there's not. enough their trip is. indigenous enough and of course the word audible meant it's the client before a phone. but p.g.p. then. the off on taliban. the may have acquired the name which are to be the same again but the way you speak about it is to be is not that huge effect of you can pick up. because of the way you speak and others says hold very
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very sympathetic towards them in international terms they're called terrorists just like the taliban what can you explain tell us something that we don't know about them why is pakistan not doing enough to fight them and completely get rid of the. new terminology or that for example the negative is determined by you not sure if there's just because if you know point because of quoted the soft part because you saw it but backed by our so what the dead or is it anyone any group that resists the american design is a terrorist you may be a terrorist it be. a model that has been happening which i had been and then be thought of by and now the news on that one. but this still milegi is not going to impress either that is just. the example consider them as
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terrorists with. born free will how they came into being worthless the reserve bill certain amount of connections in the region that have given to. those and that ice just by calling someone a terrorist they're still going to be enough to have people lake us to kick bill in unequal the international community which in any case you know the subservient to the bedrock of international community of subservient to. so. you can. get liberation struggle is it terrorism everyone you know. but this group this. country if you go strictly by the. issue of terrorism. begin to.
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take a short break right now while we're back will continue to do i mean for the pakistani intelligence service is talking about pakistani and american taliban today and much more stay with us. for over a year we have heard nonstop but some in some way colluded with russia to win the
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presidential election so we have yet to see the evidence of this however it appears more likely it was the democratic party. but. the relationship between. it was suggested. and a fairly strong one there were two thousand. and the study it's a very extensive study done by a well respected scientists. do chemicals that appetising. really increase the risk of cancer. this is a. that is true by independent scientists. from my time as well as the others why is that the meta hobby only.
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doing if you want to learn. a. lot of. big business against health. or a bad. name for a had of pakistani intelligence services mr durani but the problem is that what americans call someone a terrorist and they go after them it has consequences for instance american drone strikes on your soil on pakistani soil that's making people very angry but
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you can't do anything about it because america is saying well we're fighting terrorists in pakistan and pakistani government isn't doing enough to keep those terrorists out so what do do you. with that you know this what we have been doing for the last for many years they have been targeting some people who they did not like or just to give a message to us by saying to be a terrorist there was a stage when we decided enough is enough you've done enough of this. so receives the plane of communication for seven months and then brought them back to reading. with. their what we do if. you've been without calling someone to speak and you know continue to draw in certain areas that just bullshit with you feel find some response and we will use it if you don't. have to fluff a joke like the taliban have done it but in the meantime actually what we have done
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is more substantially other than what i would have thought about is that. in the region starting with iran russia china you know this is the consensus of the regional concern vigilantes that as a measuring north and in the sense of an alliance but at least the have started. it should be handling the foreign presence in afghanistan in a coordinated manner. let me ask you something pakistan for decades the friendly government in kabul should the taliban the afghan taliban win the war just imagine that will that be better for islam than having president connie there i think just to film for a leap over was all show. not that late don't be used by.
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we should note new would have said that we are looking for a friendly. to be a zero g. maybe friendly tomorrow it can unfriend. in the neighbors the relationship is what both your son is especially people who have hundreds of honest on what they have been. advising the a gold mine that i regard to me it is not cheap but the consensus going in kabul broad british. back in my time after the show that we're told a broad based government all important fiction on board and that is to go over and if we want because a bunch there do the accepted by the ones there for me to stay with if we've had threats of honest an interest see what i call isn't government taliban official in the burbs for grecian of that is how the country was created in seven hundred forty seven a grand bargain between different ones if there is itself on the side if that speech
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of honest on this knowledge remained in that form so that is the it doesn't really matter one alone with be able to control it in the best days. and my sister point is that when we have revealed have a consensus government that would be the one that by your son and all the other e.u. countries would say no we have not is stored the status quo ante of nine hundred seventy nine you should know this does pakistani intelligence have enough leverage and different taliban groups in afghanistan to actually help push stocks should they ever take both course she is we have pushed them very often but whenever you push them who so does it. to us i would tell you by the cover regime. not by us. we would have the i you say that i live in we're keeping the news
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a whole almost bit under there for two years because there are the unifying figure out there do that a bunch of the peace process starts being revealed. once so if there was food after that scuttling of the body to process there it was. end of july fifteen. he. was the one who was the peacemaker. and all that. to go her own to muddy. because it will move us that when he addressed the issue thirty was eliminated by the american drone so the oil is not to buy your son in any case because. your side look i would assume that is afraid of losing your skull i would because it does not have the. auditors about states that does not want that people should respect them and. if nothing else have brought the. plant regime to sort of way right now there's another turn in the whole story because trump is
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calling on india to involve itself more in afghanistan this is of course making pakistani politicians very angry their people much marching in the streets very displeased with that how will this affect islam by its role in afghanistan and in diplomacy. people see a few things for the fall more fair just to express the display you. because of the united states will not get the credit of india has that or pretty substantial money it does or does it has a cultural integration society users in order to send any military troops there i just believe to give you a clue to the rule is. there could go north even empire would have been which. you know established in that country always good to help the.
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anything more than the orderly and that is the space that has been a lot with. your why you were to give any advice and i suppose. more often than not country except for making that you know diplomatic knows. that if you can plead on who are we going to put. through though the one who will give them the space and if they can only invest money this fine and if they're big enough to understand it would be one of the happier countries because then after that they would find evidence of the military's enough but for me. just as someone who is observing what's going on in the region i understand all the intricacies between pakistan and india at what i never really understood maybe you can tell me is why pakistan so worried with indian involvement in afghanistan for instance i remember former president musharraf saying that pakistan
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is used taliban as an intact india proxy group in afghanistan he said it i'm not making this out but right yes so i never really understood what pakistan's policy in afghanistan is all about the area with india why is pakistan so afraid of afghan friendship. and most of the opon hands of north. deployed are to me because when i did because your tapes them politically but she was. the at the head you can still be very good working order. because a explained the indians can go ahead and do whatever the lows of allows them to. there to be up to us and we have better carson of. the unions. now the rule is. to us it's up to us to take it over there and it
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is a sit we being the day was with the show and we should be able to take it over when people say that it's only because of these reasons but what we sure of say they have a right i'm sitting here so i'm giving my view and i to north warn of north korea actually read some of the by you sign these not only the politicians but some others also exit read the indian influence and of honest than they do the country is full of functioning which is hardly anything for me indeed they did was that all of this as i did the guy new york. not dead just the info is that we have. india has certainly culture and for us bollywood is important les hollywood used to be once upon a time for us but. that and not having called in borders for the fun of stuff that steam did one thing those we have common border the know all about the spittle with
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it and be get ready to book other things and they could also blame when the tribe spent it resist a foreign force will watch because of that because he becomes the scapegoat for at this time the scapegoat hispanics. ask a last question about russia pakistan they have recently held their regular joint military. training in mountain warfare house islam about working with moscow to counter terror threat i don't think it is a book better reason because they are going on a big scam there. in concrete terms. your son's relation to russia started to be improving many years ago. for a number of reasons. amount of cultural plate brought be a part of the diet and bake cookies for you found out that we had a problem with them fresh as a problem with the full doctor's one after ukraine if it's probably become addicted more. you know substantially but essentially be cooperate with each other find of
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course remember the order to steal a million good eyes she did it with the russian technology. that. for the last few years i think people have wanted to update that need on but the stump by play i'm not sure if anyone other than the guest. would be an orc poll about that so the use of those areas of cooperation but essentially. coming together means if you have to join and to find a solution for this a regional problem and that is i've said that before. foreign military presence here in the heart of asia of honest influence in central asia the type of implication for you don and that is really hope that. this is a symbolic one through or that of getting noted exercise together does not mean
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that you would make a joint force like natural in the i consider them only distort there's a symbolic just shit how the countries are coming together we continue to do that we didn't and if there's going to be any wanted by just an opposite i would say that for the thing to do you have your relations with india you have your delusion but you are talking about a new relationship between these countries or five countries in the region which is issue specific rich is not a journalist you know a viper for elation chip that you think you should share. that has or simply cations in economic cooperation and political cooperation. and she will. have done pretty much. mr draghi thank you very much for this interview ok. with everything. here.
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most people think just stand out in this business you need to be the first one on top of the story or the person with the loudest voice so the biggest raid in truth to stand on the news business you just need as the right questions and demand the right answer. the. question. under margaret thatcher there was a transition away from public housing and government assisted government underwritten public housing and they sold off all the council estates as they're
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really. you know used in the school for the. times not want something to go much part of the a lot of the behind of the out. she just the car seat and the militias. could have been a movement to get his beef be done of this going to be this going to be but i mean . did. you. get to live it up live. here is what people have been saying about rejected in the navy. you know. really. over
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