tv Cross Talk RT January 1, 2018 7:30pm-8:01pm EST
the investigation known as russia gate has revealed preciously little though we're learning there was collusion elsewhere. across talking real collusion i'm joined by my guest richard goodstein in washington he is a democratic political strategist and a former advisor to hillary clinton's two presidential campaigns in miami we have john karr below he is host of off the cuff on rebel media and in phoenix we cross to josh bernstein he is a t.v. talk show host or a chilling cross-like rules in effect that means he can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate josh i'm going to go to you first because one of my one of the crosstalk rules as always go to the person that got up early is for this program and that is you want to talk about some of the things that's coming out of the the f.b.i. in the in the special investigation into. alleged collusion with russia during the election we have this peter stroke you know and he has written some you know with
his girlfriend some pretty nasty things about donald trump you know he's. he's an a.t.m. he is a nuisance ease a menace well you know all these kind of thing that's fine that's fine you can have an opinion like that but when you have something like this i want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in andy's office presumably that's and you mccabe there is there's no way he gets elected but i'm afraid we can't take the risk it's like an insurance policy in an unlikely event that you're going to die before forty i mean that that's more than just saying you don't like someone calling somebody a creep or something like that that sounds like. you've got a plan and you've got power and you're going to make things happen behind the scenes how do you read that josh well i think i read this as the elites and the deep state and the globalists they all expected hillary clinton to be the next president united states but the american people thought otherwise and they voted overwhelmingly. to make donald trump the forty fifth president of the united states
. for rod rosenstein to say with a straight face and any testimony that he believes that there is no collusion and that he doesn't think that robert mueller should be either investigated or or replaced is just insane it truly is i mean if you look at and i'm calling it collusion g.p.s. but if you look at fusion g.p.s. and you see all the things that have happened from bruce or and nellie or being part of that organization then you have the fact that they were having secret meetings approved or had secret meetings with the people at fusion g.p.s. with glenn simpson and of course with christopher steele the one who planted the fake russian dossier it is absolutely incredible why the justice department is not putting a special prosecutor on robert mueller to investigate iranian one n. fusion g.p.s. is beyond all recognition i can't even imagine why that is not happening the only
thing i can think of is maybe jeff sessions is compromised in some respects you know richard way in there i mean these are i mean it at the very least these are uncomfortable things that have been revealed that have been during the election in the transition here i mean the fact that you have a high ranking member of the f.b.i. his wife is working for fusion g.p.s. i mean that is just extraordinary i mean we have and it took quite a bit of effort for congress to get this kind of the this information i mean they had to really put in they're still obstructing requests from congress here i mean don't we need a little bit more transparency at the f.b.i. about all this go ahead richard. peter do you assume your viewers know about alice in wonderland where up with down in in was out in black with white justice refer to this overwhelming victory this is a victory by somebody who got forty six percent his opponent got three million more votes fifty four percent of the people rejected him he had the lowest twenty five
electoral richard clinton i'm so going to say you know can you read peter interest the f.b.i. question please i am i i am i am the f.b.i. is what won this election for donald trump why because. which pressured by f.b.i. agents in new york right and he put out his press conference back in july last year criticizing hillary i was totally against the rules he put out that letter eleven days before the election would totally undermined her at a time when the f.b.i. knew darn well that donald trump was in was basically working with the russians or the russians are trying to trying to help him and did nothing basis close the case on the dossier now that say that johnson and that the democrats paid for him presumably the i know what i know i mean i'm ok all right let me get let me pulling up on here richard you're always a jewel on the program but let me go to let me go to john here ok but ok if we can
if we connect the dots here if where you were using you know when i just gave that quote right there i mean that looks to me like trying to get find so warrants on your political enemies and this is the f.b.i. ok you know if you want to go after your political opponents in your political party that's fair game everybody does it this is the f b i ok i want to know more about these types of things because we need to know if the f.b.i. is it is corrupt and it needs to be and people needed to be weeded out there because i read these things here i find it really quite shocking this is the politicization of the justice department here that is a banana republic go ahead john. oh absolutely look and i just want to make one comment to richard i love that the amuse me i was kind of laughing richard and democrats seem to forget that we don't elect presidents here on the popular vote donald trump took seventy four more electoral votes than hillary it was a blowout it was a landslide and so who the two so you that that he was overwhelmingly elected is
absolute gentlemen gentlemen and rich dad should have that enough josh had so i don't want to talk about the election anymore i'm sick and tired of that election but i want to tell you about what's going on now ok go ahead john in miami let's talk about the f.b.i. though here so let me say this i began my career in law enforcement i began my career in law enforcement with the n.y.p.d. i worked on very high profile cases what you are seeing is unprecedented improper and in my opinion illegal strokes text now like you said earlier peter there were a lot of nothing berger's in those attacks but it only requires one damning piece of evidence and that text where he talks about insurance policies where he essentially is talking about undermining a presidential campaign because he and a few other people let's be clear ninety nine point nine nine nine percent of f.b.i. agent street agents do their job bravely with integrity with fidelity the acronym
you know the f.b.i. his motto but nobody bravery integrity we're talking about a few bad actors at the top we're talking about the arch villain andrew mccabe we're talking about the moron puppet james komi who was fired and by the way the president has every right to fire the f.b.i. director should a president who is the chief law enforcement officer he can fire the f.b.i. director because it's tuesday and raining and he's in a bad mood he doesn't need a reason and peter stroke who was mccain's little henchmen so they were definitely plotting to undermine the presidential election it wasn't a political politicization of the f.b.i. it was the weaponization of the department of justice of the f.b.i. of the intelligence community on behalf of criminal one of the dirtiest people ever in politics hillary clinton people need to go to jail there. should be a special counsel and the office of inspector general has four hundred fifty gun and beds carrying agents who need to start making arrests ok i want to go back to this fusion g.p.s. thing and or his wife nellie here i mean that that begs investigation here i'm so
sorry because we've all read that dossier it is just completely hogwash it's ridiculous ok and they're basing their investigation of trump and his campaign based on this and somebody in the f.b.i. at a high level his wife is working they're cutting a paycheck come on josh you're absolutely right and not only that the fake ca was used in order to get the pfizer yeah a warrant to then spy on trump and his associates so in other words that was the legal as well because they were using something that was debunked and was not an even accurate document going back to what richard said first of all richard there was three thousand three million illegal votes in the election and hillary only won what fifty two how do you know hire counties and from one about three thousand ok well at least three million but here's the thing let me ask this to richard why aren't we doing an investigation into james khomeini's at mit and leaking when he
gave testimony during the senate judiciary committee why aren't we now also looking into tarmac gate in which you know loretta lynch is talking to bill clinton and then the next thing you know we've got hillary clinton exonerated because it's carelessness and not gross negligence which would have been a crime why aren't we investigating susan rice's unmasking why aren't we investigating barack obama spying and using loretta lynch as as a as a hit person if you will to go in and do all those things that have been done where are those investigations how can we sit here with a straight face and say that there's russian collusion when we have all of these other things including uranium one and. everything else that is going on so twenty johnson. richard about ten things let him get started on some of them go ahead richard yes please james comey testified that he spoke with donald trump nine different times ok and trump did not once asked what did the russians do and you
know why it was the same reason that o.j. simpson never said to the police what happened to nicole because trump knew and he knows so that this is again this is alice in wonderland stuff let me give you an example of collusion let's assume somebody robbed the department the department store goom or tiffany's and they've said to you we have all these so when goods would you like them i'd love that let's meet so what do you call that you think that person who says i'd love to look at those stolen goods you think they have clean hands are dirty hands that's what congress is looking at that's what lois looking ok if you think that's a great player to make sure don't let up on come on richard you got to be i guarantee a democrat the democratic ticket the democrats were paid then in crowds paid for the fusion g.p.s. in iraq a huge i mean what are you talking about they're the ones that paid for doing they i mean we had one time we had a member of the f.b.i.
high level meeting with christopher steele i have no idea what you're talking about seriously i mean do we know you don't know what donald trump jr said to the russians yes let's me i'd love that you don't know what i'm talking about peter everybody in the u.s. who follows the news does they know exactly what he was about not once again that he wasn't deadly f.b.i. people and i have to jump in here i love this debate here but we have to go to a short break after that short break we'll continue our discussion and still more washington scandals. how does it feel to be a sheriff the greatest job in the world it's as close to being a king as any job there is what business model helps to run a prison now we just do it on like i said nobody you know visitation and i don't no
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don't just happen by chance it was very striking there were no one americans to go especially a lot of people from the brics countries specially brazil russia and china their special project reveals what was missed in the media coverage. of the panama chronicles. welcome back across the uk we're all things considered peter lavelle reminder we're discussing still another washington scandal. ok let's go back to phoenix i know you've got a lot to say go ahead. well look i think richard is the one that's actually in alice in wonderland because he's ignoring the facts that there are all these other conflicts of interest as well as all these other crimes that have taken place here
and yet we're sitting here concentrating on something that's already been debunked and the fact that there was no russian collusion we now know that james comey is even admitted in testimony that the president united states was not under surveillance and he was under surveillance he was not under investigation and if i was the president united states i would do i would do basically one thing i would instruct my department of justice to immediately start five counter investigations i would look into robert mueller and his ties to raney and one and the russians i would look into james komi is leaking of information that he testified in the senate judiciary committee i would also open up an investigation into fusion g.p.s. i would also open up an investigation into tarmac gate loretta lynch and susan rice if we opened up all of these simultaneous investigations it would completely drown out this mueller which on and that's exactly what it is it is
a witch on they hate this president so much that even if they can't find anything on him they go way back on these trumped up charges against paul manna for and now you have you know michael flynn and everything else so a sickly they're trying to do anything they can and the trump attorneys i don't think they're very smart because they should be instructing the president to end this and all the asked to do is use all these other investigations to do it it would drown out the mueller investigation we'd be back to talking about the good things like the economy the stock market and everything else that's happening in this country ok john you want to jump in there in miami go right ahead. yeah let me let me just let me jump in first of all let's richard let's stop the false narrative that donald trump jr did anything improper or illegal it's opposition research in fact he did far less than your idol hillary clinton did to bernie sanders another democrat donald trump jr took a legal opposition research meeting with a russian lawyer who by the way how they had
a immigration parole extension granted by the obama administration so i don't blame him for taking an awful meeting that happens every day in politics you know it i know it you know that peter knows that that being said we're missing one important point about nellie or nelly or didn't just work for fusion g.p.s. fusion g.p.s. describe nelly or bruce or is wife was or was the number four man in the department of justice the number four man he had two roles unprecedented he had a criminal role and a counter-intelligence for all that deal jay his office was three or four doors down from the attorney general three or four doors down from rod rosenstein his wife nellie or was considered the expert on all matters russia at fusion g.p.s. if you don't think she had a hand in if not directed the compiling of this fake news garbage doe's ca you've got another thing coming this is a scandal that makes watergate palin comparison this might be the greatest political scandal in american history the number four man at d.o.j. the number two man in f.b.i.
and remicade and mccabe's hand-picked disciple peter stroke couldn't spiralling against a political campaign then taking that jump those two a fights a court were resting on their f.b.i. credentials to convince a judge to issue a secret warrant a foreign intelligence surveillance court warrant to surveil another political campaign for nothing other than political reasons now with regards to paul matter for if he committed financial crimes in two thousand and six he should pay but nothing was found with regards to russia collusion with papadopoulos he was he would plead guilty on a process crime nothing would trump russia collusion michael flynn a process all right let me lying to investigators there's a lot of debate let me just tell you what you know that i'm going to dinner and you guys it's a it just happened it's actually true they want to read against one and i want richard to get in their way and richard please. first as regards this dossier ok i know everybody spun up about it. michael flynn has pled
guilty to lying to the f.b.i. not because of a dossier papadopoulos has pled guilty to lying to the f.b.i. not because of a dossier a lot paul but what about what's a collusion incited by a grand jury not because of a toughie. and the da say my point is what will bring trump and the people around him down are facts ok are facts the dicey a might as well not even exist for a purpose of what it is given it's a wonder it is going to happen when he wasn't being here tonight and there is no god even all the hear this whole time what is what the fact that you're referring to please the fact is the ok of you for facts the russians said we want to help you the people said we want to help the russians to help and cetera when you talk time line is hundred times a timeline is important if your answer cna answer peter after i gave b.c.
knew the sit on the line is important when did they ask when you asked me a question well the answer is the intelligence community which you may not buy and josh and john may not accept the legitimacy of the us intelligence community but most people america do and they say that the russians very much wanted to help donald trump win and hillary clinton lose and by leaking years that does not mean that i know nothing about the sad thing about that and it's not what the you know and i do not wish they had been presented to back that claim up not one shred the intelligence community you know so i just have to believe them right no i don't you know trust but verify a great republican said that once ok go ahead and go prosecute by the go johnny had just let me let me let me just throw let me through because you don't want to hear my rights on the first realize we are involved here we have as we have the more professional talkers here john you go first in miami go ahead ok thank you thank
you the intelligence community. never said that what the intelligence community said was that russia meddled in our elections we knew that that's old news they never once said that russia weaponized on behalf of donald trump we know that hillary clinton was far more kind of russia and russia paid far more money in the clinton foundation than they've ever given donald trump so that is the bungs completely debunked to say that dosia is irrelevant is ridiculous think of the legal concept fruits of the poisonous tree when i when i was active law enforcement if i proved presented junk to a judge and i lied i stood in front of that judge and said i vetted this it's valid when i knew it wasn't when i knew it was garbage and that judge gave me a warrant a defense attorney would get the entire case thrown out because it supports industry i provided drunk to get the warrant i got the warrant under unconstitutional false pretenses which is exactly what happened with the dozy so that o.c.a. is not irrelevant dosia is the crux of the issue and there is nothing improper nothing illegal smoking nothing remotely wrong with opposition research whether it
comes from a russian a saudi arabia of venezuelan a canadian a texan or someone from rhode island as long as you're not exchanging money and not disclosing it there is nothing remotely well we've got to debunk all of these ridiculous false narratives ok josh in phoenix go ahead well i was going to say that all of the prosecutors so far all of them have ties to either hillary clinton the clinton foundation and or barack obama's administration ok you've got jenny ri you've got your weissman you've got goldstein you've got peter stories like these are you've got what's your name. berman jackson you've got the other one that also was the prosecutor against the man of four so this is a complete this is not an impartial investigation this is not an independent investigation if it was then you would have prosecutors that were from i don't know the george w. bush administration or you'd have. people that were from the george h.
walker bush or even if the reagan administration and people are still around from there this would have a mix of luck it is not is that clinton off here with a reagan parag with a point on many go ahead richard go ahead go ahead richard. i'm saying mohler robert muller who is the head of this was a ronald reagan appointee to a top law enforcement position he was george h.w. bush appointee to a top law enforcement position he was at george w. bush to a top law enforcement position moeller so this notion about who is on the staff you know the contribution or to a political party is a day or so if you're just appointed to the supreme court i'm going to i mean i just i don't know i'm not so worried about democrat or republican guys i'm more worried about the deep state that's what i worry about ok you know john one of the yes exactly one of the things i really worry about here is if you look at because the way things are going men afford in flint seem to have been unfairly treated
because they said something that wasn't true i think a whole string of people. in the obama administration didn't forthright with the f.b.i. you know you got to be the saddest feeling guy right now in the whole world he was doing what everybody else was doing here but what i what i find worrisome and i hope richard can respond to that is a rapidly running out of time is that there is a very strong sense of bias here on the people that are doing the russian investigation nine out of the fifteen players on miller's team it's factually known they were contributors to the clinton people two democrats are democrats so but you know people that are going forward and maybe even grand manner for will say this is that you see these people are intensely politicized they're very biased here i mean they will be able to challenge any kind of prosecution and even sentencing and go back to court and say you know i was in the poison well the atmosphere was very poisonous we need to know more about this cobol in the f.b.i. and the d.o.j.
what's going on i mean did they sit around and strategize because it certainly sounds like it go ahead john. peter i think they i think that you're going to get jumped on about your republican. it's not about republican and democrat this is about establishment and deep state and stroke use the words insurance policy well there's no ca was the insurance policy to insure hillary's when that failed muller is their insurance policy he was the contingency plan in the event i don't care who he was appointed by the guy spent his entire life as a deep state operative working in government all right now gentlemen tad i have to jump in here to status i have to jump in here and richard's been the odd man out thirty seconds you've got the last thirty seconds richard. all these these comments in these texts that were a tribute to struck were things that the american public believes that trump was
dishonest right that he was reckless that he was incompetent this was not something that was unique to peter strong as regards all and that's regard to all these terms that's what jeb bush was saying that's what ted cruz was saying all these horrible things that were being said about donald trump by struck all these republican opponents were saying the same thing that's what the american public know there are people who trust that somehow or other to say that is and stirs ackbar ok i wasn't on that he did when he was late in life when he was a very powerful man and he got caught gentlemen we've run out of time many thanks to my guests in washington miami and in phoenix and thanks to our viewers for watching us here at r.t.c. the next time and remember rough stuff. los angeles the city of luxury and free but also an alarming number of people
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