to find out there's donald trump in the white house there is jeff sessions at the department of justice they can release any documents they want what's going on because flame it. well you know peter i was in counterintelligence with the cia and we were daily with the f.b.i. and at the lower levels our work with them actually fantastic f.b.i. agents but at the upper levels i can tell you we saw constant politicization by f.b.i. supervisors even leaking information to the press on cases that we had but up to attorney general sessions one thing we did learn about the f.b.i. it was kind of frustrating it will take them or year or years to investigate a case just move in plodding along dotting every i crossing every t. i think a sessions is just being careful slow and really meticulous in what he's doing it's frustrating they're not going to come out and say things that will get sessions or
others in trouble until they have things solidified so although it's kind of frustrating and i hear all the time people are are wondering about sessions but their silence does not necessarily mean that there's a bad thing going on it could just mean that trump and sessions are building a solid irrefutable case ok well daniel in washington you think that cases against jim comi loretta lynch and samantha power i mean in these types of people here because it appears that they have their fingerprints all over this and then we can talk about the entire history of the quote unquote russia da ca ok which is a whole different the need to go down go ahead daniel in washington i think the problem i kind of disagree on the attorney general sessions part ok he has not been effective he has not been a good leader and he has not done what it is unprecedented when you have a change of party you get rid of all of the institutional employees and you bring in your own people this has obama attorneys working all throughout this institution
he brings rod rosenstein in and also you know recuses himself instead of proactively addressing the administration on this and. your special counsel investigation and in addition to that he's the white house is not known as a well run machine right now they do not have their act together internally and this is you can see it and state department d o d so many other places that really need white house direction but i find that turning general sessions is not doing his job effectively you mentioned a let me of things that he should be speaking about at least addressing and hiring and directing and he's just not doing it and i think that was you know a poor choice to have him in that position and if we had rudy giuliani right now you know you have a completely innocent situation and absolutely and the department of justice it daniel in lake jackson. is you know one of the things that we're witnessing right
now and i think is the real dilemma is that you have this entire how many people in the highest elmo of the f.b.i. that appear to be in collusion from what we know let's be careful here and then you have this special in but you have a special prosecutor and juxtapose both of them here i mean it mother comes out with something you know and it's accusatory inflammatory there's going to be a lot of people and i'm going to be one of them going to say but what about investigating the investigators you see the kind of deadlock this is going to create and i think that's another real crisis that the country is facing there's no confidence in the probe i mean of course you would hear that on c.n.n. and embassy in d.c. i mean the junk that they spew is extraordinary but the rest of the country is listening and wondering what's going on is there a crisis here go ahead jackson. well i wonder how many of the rest of us i'm sure
peter you feel the same way are wondering about the mole or investigation where is russia. was talking we remember this is all about. well i and eli and his campaign team please forgive me i forgot all about that ok you're right go ahead. you're supposed to you're supposed to just just relax you'll be ok listen to c.n.n. no no we're not talking if this was a very very limited investigation of whether the trump campaign and trump himself colluded with russia whether five or six years ago president putin woke up one morning and said you know what i bet donald trump is going to be president someday so let's set up this whole chain of events to entrap him in a way that we can manipulate him and make him our puppet this is what the whole thing was supposed to be about and now we're talking about an interview with trump to talk about whether there might have been obstruction of justice when he fired komi as a previous speaker said very well he had
a right to fire all these people and he should have that was probably his big mistake he's all bluster and no action ok gentlemen i'm going to jump in here we're going to go to a short break and after that short break we'll continue our discussion on released a memo. dollar top is america as it actually is it a bomb over the fantasy child is reality and he's doing what you'd expect a seasoned businessman to do cut all the nonsense out of the mix bring jobs back. to. exist says harlan kentucky. to hold all of this move them places you can walk through street fanny's remove.
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back. i. welcome back to cross talk or all things considered i'm peter lavelle to remind you we're discussing release the memo. ok kevin let me go back to you in atlanta i guess we have another dilemma facing us here again you know there's a viewer of c.n.n. or m.s.n. b.c. if they accidently tuned into this program here they wouldn't have a clue of what we're talking about ok and i'm talking about release the memo and of course you know i'm really glad that twitter and facebook corrected the record you
know it's not actually we're using the hash tag for this program right now but after facebook and twitter said it wasn't russian bots ok so i want to know we're in the clear here across the uk but kevin here this memo either is going to show you know it's good to unglue everything or it's the all time nothing burger because depending on what media outlet you're watching you have what you have a choice go ahead kevin. well you know this memo could and probably will unravel the russian collusion narrative right now over the memos classified secret and unfortunately the government over uses that to conceal information from congress but i think the pressure from the public is so strong that this memo will be released congressman and senators who have seen it come out and said that is it is a shocking abuse of power by the f.b.i. and the cia for that matter who leaked the dustier information calling it intelligence or the memo is serious very possibly documents illegal criminal
activity on the part of some f.b.i. agents we don't know whether it struck or who falsified evidence of it's to the pfizer court and you don't live to a judge that serious this memo is going to come out i'm absolutely absolutely convinced it's going to stop the entire russian narrative and it's going to turn things back on what i hope will be a criminal probe into abuse of power and the uppermost levels of the f.b.i. daniel in washington would that prompt again betray my age here i could church commission or is it so polarized now that is would be impossible gentlemen i am very serious here even you know even if the evidence comes out there was incriminating evidence for the f.b.i. these people are very very powerful and the and they have the resource called the media behind them so this is the collision i'm worried about what people speculate that are in that memo memo i've been saying on this program for eighteen months so i'm not surprised ok go ahead daniel in washington. two quick points kevin i agree
with that it will come out and surmountable pressure will come and there probably will be some heads that will roll because of it but as i've said on this program many times before from syria to ukraine to say sions to expansion of nato to continued provocation of russia phobia from here to the e.u. to u.k. to blame russia for everything from bragg's it to war aleck. ssion the narrative will never cease against russia and the notion collusion because we still seek to take advantage from russia over arctic mineral natural resources and that's what the crux of all this has been since two thousand and eleven so unfortunately even though this could be a huge smoking gun that narrative will not cease and there provocation and spreading that continuously you hear it every day in the halls of congress to throughout this town so that's not going to change i wish it would but it just
simply won't won't daniel in tech that's a very interesting point i believe this and russia hysteria will continue irrespective ok it's not based on anything it's just a hysterical supposition that is been inserted into public discourse here but i mean it will in this kind of goes into my mantra about the media i mean when we read the memo we all will it's only four pages of we all read it very fast and will we depending on how you look at everything you're going to come to conclusions very quickly i'm pretty sure about that but you know do you think and this is what really got me got my goat for the last year how is the mainstream media going to spin this i mean are they actually going to say that oh the rip the republicans in congress are now your drum roll everybody oh they're in cahoots with the russians because that's what they're going to say all of the g.o.p. in the house is working for a lot of me or putin it's not impossible daniel go ahead and lake jackson.
i agree with you on that but i tend to slightly disagree a bit with the other guests on the memo itself i believe it might be a bit of political theater this was authored by definition s. and particularly his staff on the house intelligence committee and their mess is known for overselling things he's done in the past here is known as who was who had these this information in his hands he knew about the f.b.i.'s abuse of the pfizer process process yet he was one of the key members of the house of representatives demanding that we extend section seven zero two of the five the court so they can continue spying on the rest of us so his credentials on actually caring about the abuse of the fires the system here are very very suspect the other aspect of the memo the republican screaming released a memo released a memo do mike gravelle went to the floor of the senate and he read the pentagon
papers into the congressional record that's how we found out what was going in vietnam so all the members that are whining and moaning about we need to release that just get your butt down to the floor and read the memo and we'll find the hear it a great idea kevin weigh in on because if it because the way it's polarized even if i can use this word because it's so abused these days even if you get to the truth will the truth be conveyed because again you have these major liberal networks and news outlets they are selling namor with their own nonsense and their own vision because of their blind hatred of donald trump and rush is always so good for oil it has been a cold war all the way to the president what i'm saying is they don't have to have any kind of. anything that touches reality because the narrative has such a strong current that facts don't matter and i worry about that too go ahead kevin in atlanta. yeah i agree the need this is the people's house the congress the
congress and the senate they need to take this memo down to the floor i couldn't agree more and read it to the american people constitutionally that's who they serve and with the mainstream media we i think we all have to understand the mainstream media in terms of reporting the truth is essentially gone there are six major corporations that control the media about twenty c.e.o.'s control the news and the editors they're connected to the wall street what some are calling the deep state now and also i am aware of the fact for some years that even the cia has connections and control to the media in kind of a quid pro quo relationship and sometimes the media will just parrot what the government says so the media is gone there's no question about that in a daniel should we believe the f.b.i. anymore i mean this is a crisis that a huge crisis that they're dealing with.