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a gash and bufkin founder and cochairman of the israel palestine creative regional initiative mr busk and as far as i'm concerned the most interesting political actor to watch is prime minister israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu in both how he tries to deploy his library and how he tries to control the damage and you made a point in one of your recent articles that there was a time when prime minister spoke about mutuality and reciprocity what do you see made him abandon those themes and what can possibly resurrect them breach or actually i think when he talked about reciprocity. say what they get they do and he was primarily referring to this issue of the palestinians recognize that israel is a nation state of the jewish people he has repeated the demand that the palestinians should recognize israel as a nation state of the jewish people the palestinians have made it quite clear that they're not going to do that they recognized israel they're not going to define
israel in its national religious character which in the thing that was demanded i think a lot of what netanyahu says on calling to the palestinians to negotiate is kind of empty words because he's not serious about negotiations in mud view with he were he would put down some of the terms of reference for negotiations instead he uses a kind of cliche of no preconditions and we know what no precondition means it means that israel will continue with its policies of building more settlements and entrenched in the occupation while the party gets smaller and smaller that they arrest to negotiate about exactly and i would go even further i think the netanyahu government is clearly counting on the trump mentum to establish as many facts on the ground as possible and in doing that frankly i think they've abandoned all the . the usual pretense is because you can hear respectable people in israel openly questioning the palestinians people ask nico region or that ride to a silver in state and if you take these far right israeli vision to its logical and
i wonder how does it here resolution what is the end of that strategy and quite frankly i don't know because i know that in israel we define ourselves as the democratic nation state of the jewish people yet for fifty years already we have a bi national one state reality where israel controls basically everything between the jordan river and the mediterranean sea in this territory between the jordan river in the mediterranean sea about fifty percent of the people living there are a palestinian arabs most of their muslims so they're not part of the israeli democracy nor are they part of the jewish nation state so we are facing in my mind for israel internally regardless of what the world says an existential question of who we are as a nation and i think this puts to us as the israeli people the need to make a decision of whether or not we want a binational state whether or not we want to have full democracy without a nation state identity where would be one person one vote in which case israel would not be the nation state of the jewish people or we want to put a border
a political border between us and the public opinion people and allow them to create their own state living in peace next to israel the decision hasn't been made yet i know that you personally believe that there is no alternative or to be precise no fair or legal alternative to a two state solution but i think it's also clear that as you alluded to earlier that the netanyahu government only needs this prospect to you as a cover to continue establishing facts on the ground to continue to territorial expansion as attractive as they a two state solution is to you personally don't you think that at this point the continuing support for it is only serving the. exploits of the most. i think that neither side is being served by the current status quo with no movement in the peace process i don't see how it's helping the palestinians i don't believe that the palestinians really have a one state option if we can't i don't understand the logic if we can find
a way to partition and live in two states let's talk about one state the logic falls from reality in my view we only have a two state solution it doesn't serve israel's in long term interest by not moving forward of creating a partnership and finding a way to negotiate with the palestinians this is difficult it's not an easy thing to do both sides need to make difficult decisions i think that we will make those decisions we don't have the leaders yet to make them but i think as i said we're facing leadership changes both in israel and in palestine i hope in the united states as well soon now i will see a senior advocate a change in not only in the palestinian leadership but also in the palestinian tactics you were just on extend advocating the same facts on the ground strategy for the palestinians and one of your articles you suggested that if you were a palestinian you would to build on all the palestinian owned land in area c. you would deploy old bulldozers in the west bank to open every road that israel has closed and you recognize that this is going to perhaps bring things to
a boiling point what makes you believe that anything good may come out of this i think the key is whether or not the palestinians could couldn't here to a nonviolent popular resistance struggle if they resort to violence and throwing stones in my view is violent as well but you could have a nonviolent struggle where i said if i were a palestinian i would seek to have myself and all of my friends and my family of leaders at the local level of the national level be arrested by israel what you need to do is hold a mirror up to the israeli people and say this is what you're creating this is the reality on the ground we're not using violence we will not cooperate with the occupation any more we want our independence we want our statehood we want to live in. but we will not be complicit in continuing to cooperate with the occupation that means not working in israel now working in settlements not using the israeli issue id cards in the birth certificates and death certificates israel will no longer have control over our lives and we're willing to pay the price for our
dependence independence doesn't come cost free and require struggle i plead with the public opinions it gets in the nonviolent struggle because if you use violence you will never get the support of the israelis or the world if you use nonviolence you will get the support of everyone but mr barak busking to be fair i think the palestinians have already paid huge cost for their independence struggle and they are continuing to pay this huge post every day what i think you're essentially calling for is an anti thought and it's a regional meaning shaking things by civil disobedience by planned coordinated action rather than let's say the sporadic violence attacks on knives attacks but do you think the palestinians are still capable of channeling their anger channeling their sense of dignity into strategy rather than those outbursts round them outbursts of violence again this requires leadership and it requires
leadership at all level that the palestinians don't yet have for twelve years they haven't had elections or eleven years haven't had elections they've had a divided political house for ten years between the west bank and gaza they need to get their house in order and this is of course the palestinians responsibility to do it but i see a new young generation of public students in the universities educated dynamic people with a lot of of ambition to make a better life for themselves and i and i hope that they understand that their salvation is not going to come from islamic fundamentalism or from trying to knife some israeli soldiers or kill israeli settlers this is not how they're going to save themselves if they're going to continue to pay. a high price in blood and death and suffering without the end results it's only through a mass campaign of civil unrest of non-cooperation with the occupation and nonviolence that they can achieve their struggle well if i understand your message
correctly you're saying that the palestinians have become q passive aggressive where in fact they would benefit the most from being both active and no not graphic i think they've been frustrated and i think that their challenge because the israelis are very good at what they do the occupation has become very cost free for israel most israelis are not encountered by the occupation they don't see it it's not part of their lives a very small part of the israeli army is involved in maintaining the occupation and israel has open and good international relations it was a very strong economy so the israeli society doesn't really understand the cost that the palestinians are paying for the occupation the palestinians need to ask themselves how can we get the israelis to understand that what they're doing is wrong how do the palestinians capture the higher moral ground they're there to create it's disadvantage they're much weaker there is no level playing field here and that requires a strong dynamic palestinian leadership now one thing that the jewish writers
taught the world is that. humans can adapt to the most degrading conditions and i'm not comparing the holocaust era prison camps to the israeli occupation i'm just saying that. people do get used to the most debilitating and appalling treatment and it looks like the conditions in the occupied territories may get even worse now that china announced his decision to have the funding for the u.n. agency that provides aid to the palestinians how do you feel about it do you think it's going to change the conditions on the ground in a way that will make these released notice i'm not sure i think that the biggest cut in the only real budget is going to be in the field of education and teachers are going to be fired palestinian schools are going to be more crowded the classrooms are going to be more crowded there will be more children in the streets and this is very problematic both internally for public stein and i think for israel it is not a sign of encouragement i think that needs
a lot of reform there needs to be a lot of discussion about the future of the responsibility of the palestinian government in the refugee camps both in education and in economic development and it really needs to fall on the palestinians to resolve these issues even though the refugee issue is on the table of negotiations i don't think this is going to make a radical change that's going to shake up the palestinian economy it's not that much money that the americans are cutting and it's not going to be the kind of challenge that i think will shake anything up it will be hurting and it'll it'll be damaging to on russia as an agency and to palestinian children in terms of the education they receive but even if we take that limited damage to the palestinian children i would think that having misery and poverty across the border multiplied would not be in the interest of israel why do you think that netanyahu administration hasn't tried to talk trump out of it especially now that they seem to have such a cordial relationship well i think that in general the israeli government has lost
people. the americans to continue financing of palestinian economic development and certainly the palestinian security forces the israeli position on is one that onerous an agency which is staines the refugee issue rather than getting the refugees integrated into palestinian society or into the countries where when really works in lebanon and in syria and in jordan and therefore as an agency for seventy years to sustain the refugee problem rather than helping to resolve it it keeps this dream of going back home which is now the state of israel proper and where those palestinian homes no longer exist so politically israel has taken the position that needs to be closed down entirely so if israel is not going to encourage the american government to continue paying for the room ok well mr bush going to fortunately we have to leave it there but it's been there very interesting though a very troubling conversation i appreciate you being with us and tell our viewers please keep the conversation going on out twitter facebook and youtube pages and i
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deepening divisions to a new front opened by turkey you know in syria and its operation against the kurds was the already tense times between i'm correct and washington and what shane that is think about all that this country has been through and now we're looking at another just russia the promises which have never been kept by united states it's really the trust crisis but. donald trump steals the show and preaching his america first doctrine into the world's business and they've. done a massive explosion rocks the diplomatic. district of the afghan capital kabul killing at least one hundred three people as the countries that oppose the spike in terror attacks.
very warm welcome my little aaron and you're watching the weekly here on r.t. international all the latest headlines and a round of the stories that shapes the week. u.s. turkey relations have suffered another blow this time over northern syria as kurds after the turkish army launched a military offensive against their positions in the afrin region. that. people now have to flee an area that was previously considered pretty stable i mean
what a shame that is think about all that this country has been through and now we're looking at another destruction in northwestern syria because turkey has taken its eye off the ball isis and going after the p.k. at this time and i mean any of the weapons have been provided to the white p.g.a. by the united states the americans haven't kept their promise since man page lately trump statement saying that they won't give any weapons to the white p.g.a. anymore and then saying that we are not giving them any during last night's telephone conversation and created a crisis of trust. a conflict in the north of syria has the potential to escalate further the turkish president says the operation will be extended to other kurdish hell. regions right up to the iraqi border the kurds that were armed by washington which has its personnel stationed in the area as well turkey is now demanding that they leave the region while local kurds are calling on america for support but we
see that the us doesn't support our friend thing that's double standards america has no tools to press them directly with the us or fills its promises and protects liberated areas including not for an. invasion as a foreign occupation the us out of the right before turkey's assault american military command had announced its plans to create a border force involving kurdish militia and for infuriating ankara the white house quickly backtracked saying no border force would be created but that wasn't enough to stop turkish tanks from entering syria. has been looking into the rhetoric coming from washington and ankara since the start of the operation unbelievable is this real and nato member telling daddy you know i mean i mean behave yourself or will point to. my exaggerating a bit mr aired oh i didn't say these exact words but turkey's got
a prime minister who pretty much did anyone who gives logistical support to the white b.g. is turkey's target for the record the y b g equals the kurdish army and for all these years who's been giving the kurds all kinds of support right. the kurds were extended in all of branch that's what ankara calls its military op but where does that wife get its guns. tapered on couldn't care less why washington's been helping the kurds to destroy eisel for this man the kurdish militias are no better than terrorists that explains his latest messages to america to us is in the process of create. a terror army on our border what we have to do is nip this terror army in the bud america do not encroach on our borders do not provoke us or we will run out of patience does anyone from the u.s.
government have anything to say we urge turkey to exercise restraint and ensure that its military operations remain limited in scope and duration and scrupulous to avoid civilian casualties some very restrained callous all there to be restrained think about it mr aired on rants that america u.s. officials don't hit back turkey rolls up the tanks flies out the more play sends soldiers over the border washington basically keep stop after all this isn't about kim who is sly the squeak makes donald trump for one war so perhaps the turks and the kurds have succeeded in one thing together were to sing america to baffled silence we discuss the latest in the african region with. one he thinks turkey was provoked thirty thousand soldiers to be armed trained by united states was extremely provocative to very gentle powers to iran to syria
and also to believe this american move me ignited this problem and this confrontation and free i believe that. they're in particular because of them. realize that this kind of move could lead to partition of syria also the partition of turkey so that's why he moved. his forces. the military offensive against the kurds true international attention with a number of european countries seeing antiwar rallies some of them turned violent resulting in scuffles with police and arrests.
the annual world economic forum took place in davos this week and the star attraction this year was donald trump who became only the second he west president to attend the summit his visit was unexpected as charmed america first policy seems to be at odds with the forums improving the state of the world tired line the u.s. leaders arrival was met with a protest two thousand people marched through syria denouncing both before and several smaller protests took place elsewhere in the country including geneva that didn't seem to put off the u.s.
leadership though was artie's jaclyn further report. almost a few very flattered he has chosen this as a forum. for those that don't want to listen to him you can they can lead well probably to no one's surprise whatsoever trump speech did feature his signature phrase of america first and his speech is actually rounding out the end of the forum i believe in america i will always put. this first when the united states grows so does the world america. is growing that america is a cutting edge. that's what we're doing in america and the results. one mistake america's future has never been brighter i will always put america first i believe in america to come to america where you can innovate create and build now that pretty much wraps up his whole speech which centered on progress
that's been made in the u.s. in the presence of opinion since he came to the white house term speech was highly anticipated and according to reports lines were out the door hours before it even started and here at this economic forum trump in true businessman fashion used the opportunity to promote himself and his country european leaders were also at the forum with europe first ideas that like trump's went against the grain of the summits closure list stops. it is and gentlemen my my my first miss each he said france is back france is back at the core of for europe because we will never have any forensics this without a european success if between our twenty seven member states we are not able to send a clear and united message to major powers such as china india and the united states if foreign policy is made on the national level then we will feel not a number of central topics on this year's agenda at davos actually had little to do
with economics at all author and editor gerald celente is thinks the world economic forum has shifted its focus from the central word in its name the davos big to the zero point one percent of the people they have very little concern about or what the rest of the people are getting it's one big club and it's a deal making club again all those other little things about you know gay rights equal pay oh that's just a lot of nonsense and it's for the media to write about when they don't want to write about the hard facts of how the so few own so much and how so many on so little. on saturday a taliban suicide bomber killed one hundred three people and injured two hundred thirty five others in the afghan capital those are the latest figures from the country's interior ministry.