which is actually quite small and if you look at russian foreign policy and defense policy it's very. most concerned about their sovereignty more than anything else and the near abroad i know some people don't like that term but it's it's real ok i mean these these threats here in a rant iran it's surrounded by. nato or neutral related countries bases i mean this is all a fiction here but it certainly is very good for the arms industry i mean donald trump has been such a sugar daddy to them this year and next year for sure go ahead. yes i think that's absolutely right and we could also add that our south korean japanese and european allies are all very wealthy country absolutely and this is not one nine hundred fifty anymore and they can start taking over the their own defenses what about a deal and korea that's north korea denuclearize if the u.s. withdraws all forces from south korea and south korea defends itself you know we
wouldn't have to be immediately over time that's a possibility you know if you want to do something dramatic but that's of course that's not going to happen that's wishful thinking because there's a military industrial complex in many countries but the one here in the united states we tend to build up threats larger than they are and i think your assessment of the various threats was pretty accurate china may rise but of course all the countries in asia could band together and they have fairly good internal security japan's an island that's very safe you just have to run a porcupine strategy is that are european allies have more combined economy g.d.p. than the united states so and have course in the middle east it's sort of a sort of a canard that we need to defend or oil the market is much better of providing oil at the cheapest prices exactly you know one of the things that if you look at the client states in the in the alliances of the united states was created around. the
globe these client states do like the status quo for the most part south korea and this moment may be a little bit different because they might see it some kind of diplomatic opening and want to take it and washington say no but like look at japan you know look at saudi arabia look at israel i mean they're all fat and happy i mean the american taxpayer pays for it. they don't even have to be particularly loyal allies thinking there's a wide avenue of maneuver for them in many cases and the united states if you look at like in the pacific here you know they could easily be pulled into a conflict that it was not there but it's one thing but because of all of its alliances here i mean this these all these entangling alliances are very dangerous for the united states but for a country that voted for a man that wanted america first go ahead. interesting it's i mean we have like seven hundred bases around the world. be sickly ringing around surrounding your rants rounding russia surrounding china. but yeah absolutely i think essentially
we're we're we're providing the military side of the foreign policy for a lot of these countries that are quite well off. and the thing is it would piece really and would diplomacy really take hold of if we did draw back you know and diplomacy would not be an interest differently or you would have to kick in it would it would have to automatically kick in a little to saying what washington said well washington's no no you guys have to sit down and work this out here i mean earl isn't it remarkable how many borders around the world the united states protects and it doesn't protect its own border go ahead earl finish up. you know it's. interesting. we have more concern over other. countries security than we do our own sometimes but. you know there's other political regions in that because there's both lobbying
groups on the military side lobbying groups for for other countries that have a significant influence on what's going on and it's not necessarily for america first unfortunately i think would be better handled maybe facilitating regional discussions and actual talking to people would be much more beneficial i think for global peace but i don't necessarily think global peace is is the major objective i think it's almost a disruption you know what is the objective well it's a gemini is the goal ok i mean that's that's the goal in washington you know dan you know if i could just go astray just a little bit here you know i'm sure you've been following the ups and downs in the smoky rooms and mirrors of brushy gate in the seventeen hackers in st petersburg which took about a week of the news cycles. but there's no real concern in the mainstream to talk about the countries that actually really do influence american foreign policy in washington d.c.
they call it lobbying in the united states here but you know there is this kind of influence is that saudi arabia has israel has turkey has japan and south korea we could go or we could make many many programs about that but that's almost kind of a taboo subject to talk about you can go after macedonia teenagers fine on twitter but you know a real serious discussion i'd like to know how many congressmen and senators meet with foreign lobbyists they don't have to record it they don't have to tell anyone but if you accidentally bump into the russian ambassador well you get a warrant against you go ahead dan. you say it's like to have some serious discussion i'd like to have some serious discussion about just about anything in this. it is so debased. fallen so far about about everything everything. and so so it's farcical really farcical but yes influencing american politics first all politics are international laws for
all trees number one number two i mean countries like saudi arabia kuwait the u.a.e. is real maintain huge lobbies the united states that are extremely effective the gulf states for example the lavish money every virtually every major think tank in washington is funded by the gulf states and they use that money to essentially shape or control debate so and so in washington one rarely gets the gets the opposing non saudi non israeli point of view it's completely outrageous and the people who are just served by this are the american people who you who you know there are very important issues that need to be thrashed out but what you're being you know barry you don't know you know swept under the rug it's just it says a symptomatic of a of a political system in deep crisis i mean that you know there's it long ago there
was the it was a long time ago when there was public debate about foreign policy you never hear anything about that if you just as dan you were saying as i tell people here in american media don't say much about israel don't say anything about saudi arabia ok those are just two examples go ahead i've been. yeah i think the other participants or are right on here there are whole policy is on autopilot and what we have is a military that set up the power project overseas so we should call the department of defense department of often through the department of defense of other countries because in the in the few times during our history that the military has been asked to defend the country it doesn't fit hasn't done a very good job in a war of eight hundred twelve we got the capital burned before they managed to fight the british to a drive to declaring war on the superpower at the time in world war two they didn't
think the japanese were capable of attacking pro harbor so the military failed there and of course on nine eleven the fighter jets went out to sea so we need to increase our defenses and quit you know meddling in other countries there isn't this you know you know early that through the thing that i find again i think daniel really hit it here because i'm i'm very disappointed to do and that's why i have my own program because i can talk about things that i think are interesting because when i look at the literal of corporate media there's almost nothing of interest to me whatsoever it's tragic stories it's sad stories it's political posturing but there's no debate really about policy and foreign policy is never ever debated right now except for china's bad russia is bad in iran's bad ok that's it that's all you hear twenty four seven and you never hear the other side of the argument well why are they so bad you hardly ever hear it go ahead irl. now i mean daniels correctly absolutely correct i mean if you look at the funding goes to some
of the think tanks that are very influential where they're coming from you really don't have a real dialogue on foreign policy and and shoot from the hip sometimes it's autopilot it's unfortunate i think and even look at our diplomats i really some of the verb jews didn't public in public forums i'm i'm kind of appalled by and it doesn't really set a fine example of where we should be as a country and should be leading into diplomatic efforts and i really we're kind of lagging in that area for the most part you know daniel you know well i know the person that is talking all this talk about nikki haley you know for she got her job at the u.n. the only foreign experience she had was going to the internet an international house of pancakes that's what we have in the united nations you get the last word daniel. well you know our peter. peter five days if i may correct you on one thing
there is a serious debate in this country for example a very lively serious debate has broken out over jennifer lawrence's low cut dress go shoot for her latest movie. and that was a very wide ranging debate very serious attention a lot of important subjects so we should get you know one side of the on one side and an argument or you will discuss daniel what side of the argument you on on that one there are. no head no comment as much as much to throw out it's much too fraught for me i would never have the courage a little bit could do you think that there would be totally destroyed on facebook and twitter if you meant gave your opinion ok god help us god help us all all right gentlemen that's all the time we really think that my guests in washington new york and import lot of there and thanks to our viewers for watching us here are to see you next time and remember.
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of welcome to worlds apart for two decades after the collapse of the years since our going west seemed the most natural option for several former soviet republics encouraged though no guaranteed by the e.u. itself and making russia invariably unnerved but now that the e.u. wants to put the brakes on its all expansion what does it leave the countries in between well to discuss that i'm now joined by franco frattini former foreign minister of italy and currently the always see special representative on the peace settlement mr for to me good to talk to you thank you very much for your time. this frozen conflict in transnistria it's one of the most for attracted posts soviet conflicts people of moldova have been divided for over twenty five years why do you
think the italian chairmanship of the oil decide to prioritize it to an extent of putting you in charge of the settlement process well i think the italian orsi presidency has put to some important priorities among those priorities there is situation interest here and the possibility to get some concrete results because we are convinced given the goodwill you shown by both. there are some feel some points where it would be possible to get a result so i give you just some examples we are quite cool to agree on how to me. neutral state license plates to guarantee do all nerves of the vehicles the interest to freely circulate in the open or
rumania european union maybe which is not possible today and i'm sure that's going to be a very important for people who leave on the ground and who have been excluded from the economic processes in their region because i'm sure you would agree with me despite being a very small territorial transnistria it is also an intersection of major interest of several big players like russia the european union the united states ukraine do you think all those interests now compatible enough to make a path forward possible well having some the show and see immediately after my appointment to a common good good will to get results and to succeed i consulted with. a special representative for russia ukraine the american ambassador mrs condon who is in his now and oldest people that i've consulted including the deputy prime minister and.
from. all those people said it is possible to get through solve this by the crisis of ukraine including the bus of the of you create the special representative who said to me i'm quite optimistic i was prize but to listen to those people now you mentioned a few practical matters that you're currently working on the. vehicle number plays that you mention a little more nations recognition of diplomas there if you practical issues that can improve immediately pulled the quality of life they learned of but how far can you go in addressing those practical concerns without tackling the most divisive issue which is sovereignty and independence well.