tv Cross Talk RT March 5, 2018 3:30am-4:01am EST
you know with those with all the drama happening in our country i'm shooting the brood have fun every day americans. more. closely start to bridge the gap this is the great american people. i'm after a time here we're going underground as a unit go she. said you'll have to meetings with chin fein and leaders in brussels about the future of the united kingdom coming up in the show why is britain hosting a saudi leader implicated in what the united nations calls the world's worst
humanitarian crisis we speak to understand from the campaign against arms trade about how billions of pounds worth of u.k. weapons sales to the kingdom threatens tens of millions in yemen and lives in danger now u.k. prime minister theresa may appears to have ignored a hundred page document from brussels about what no customs union will mean for britain's border with europe we offer jeremy called and shouted you secretary to the treasury peter down with the tourism a is now crossed and the e.u. red line to fall plus poverty police brutality and class war thirty four years to the day that u.k. mine is striking again changing everything we have music from clash influence former mining town band the dead times to little more like all the civil coming of a days going underground but first today marks forty eight years to the day that the nonproliferation treaty went into effect to prevent the spread of nuclear weapons around the world or as lyndon johnson have it as he bombed vietnam and i have described this treaty. as the most important.
international agreement. since the beginning of the nuclear age but a handful of countries don't agree like the nuclear armed british backed government of israel we have a long standing policy and we're not about to change it but let me tell you if people signed the nuclear nonproliferation treaty the n.p.t. now doesn't guarantee anything israel's weapons of mass destruction campaign was revealed from london by nuclear whistleblower mordechai vanunu who israel currently doesn't allow to be interviewed by the media but is britain a signatory of the i.p.t. abiding by its terms some believe the tens of billions a minority government needed to raise a may want to put into trident nuclear weapons is a breach of the treaty some like u.k. labor leader jeremy corbin in the situation treaty has. just steps towards just. as he does nothing hundred sixty
seven other states to possess them he. just. got. off. well joining me now is andrew smith the media coordinator for a campaign against the arms trade he's one of the main organizers of wednesday's protest against saudi crown prince mohammed bin salmond's visit to the u.k. that saudi arabia currently in so-called civil nuclear talks with the united states for a program in the kingdom thanks so much and you for coming back on the show before we get to any saudi visits or arms fairs and does i mean since it's the anniversary of nonproliferation treaty does trade amaze nuclear program violate the n.p.t. certainly seems to violate the spirit of it doesn't. i mean what we need to see if you try to clear weapons up creating tight it doesn't sound like the government's
got any long term vision of eradicating chinese and the more money which is being spent worldwide on tight and more. concerned we should all be ok why are you one of the main organizers of approaches against the defacto leader or one of the leaders of the kingdom of saudi arabia one of the third biggest most growing markets for u.k. goods in this world well the claim prince is a figurehead for one of the most brutal and oppressive regimes anywhere and waddled human rights record of this age is absolutely appalling and it's not just that he's also been the chief architect of the terrible brutal bombardment of yemen a war which has killed thousands of people destroyed all life saving infrastructure up and down the country and created one of the worst humanitarian crises in the world and yet despite all this despite his terrible human rights record despite the atrocities being committed every day in yemen he's being given
a red carpet treatment by trees and me and will be posing for photos of missteps of dining get the better aids i'm sure is i'm a minority government leader here and still will be quick to say it's not them that are at fault britain of course. iran that's at fault it seems to be certainly the position of the british foreign office well for me it will also be the case we don't support anyone selling arms to. visit been a terrible conflict for years in which tens of thousands of people you want to deal with we don't want to win we want to see a peaceful solution but that's not going to happen as long as there's it brutal compartment where civilians are paying the price that civilians are being killed we have seen the largest on record of call it out with over a million people in the south this is a giving aid to yemen and they are not targeting any civilians obviously any aid which they are giving which is having an impact on reaching people has to be welcomed but the good which is being done from any good which is being done by that
aid is being undone by the brutal bombardment which is surrounding yemen and the brutal. compartment which has been inflicted on people ok will boris johnson also been praising saudi arabia for allowing women to drive one of these things to an obviously nobody we're never going to criticize the saudi government for giving women but i should have had that way a long long time ago but it's a point where we're seeing reforms very often very very cosmetic very small reforms and what we tend to do is highlight how you louve a bar for human rights was to begin with first woman in government as well that well we're not going to be against. the government who are these advances in human rights obviously anyone who cares about human rights will welcome any advances. by the british government for masses of billions of dollars worth of if they didn't do that they would be outside of the international community and wouldn't be introducing these measures for human rights only save them for any of these reforms
came in so they did a bit of still by far the largest buy in of u.k. arms and that hasn't just been the case under trees i'm a has been previous prime ministers as well this is very much been an institutional issue but irrespective of all of the rhetoric and irrespective of cosmetic change we are still talking about one of the worst most appalling human rights records in what it was which has run a terrible crackdown against human rights campaigners the terrible crackdown against all dissent we're talking a regime that executes teenagers and behead people for taking part in protests this is not here which is reforming in any field meaningful way and it's not to be u.k. should be arming and supporting you we've had members of parliament we've had former ambassadors on this program and again and again they point to the strategy that engagement with saudi authorities will be the way forward on the human rights issues you explain that nobody is gauge we won't be the way forward when nobody is against engagement appends of course what's meant by engagement obviously we want
to reason me to be telling the stated. to form a human rights record as well but we don't believe he's going to be doing that at the same time as she is arming and supporting an uncritically as well we want to see meaningful change in sadia libya but after sixty years sixty years of u.k. arm sales and sixty years of suppose you can gauge when the kind of one training achievement we can point to is that women are able to drive now and say to labor we should have been allowed to do that decades and decades ago we are talking is still one of the most oppressive in the world and the fundamentals about aren't changing so we you and your fellow team with can barely get the arms trade what sure is i'm a shaking hands this week with the crown prince where would you really believe that we would have more influence on all these things if we didn't sell them rockets and go wild moment the podium relationship lies very much for so you do but one thing about the images of trees and me shaking hands with mohamed and salman on the steps
of danish street is that that will be seen as a major propaganda coup in the policies of riyadh there's no question of it they will regard this as a glowing endorsement on the international stage however if a message which sends to people who are being tortured inside of prisons or to people who are having their homes destroyed in yemen is a very different message message it sends to venice but there are human rights don't matter message it sends to vend is that their lives are of less importance than profits would be systems when i'm sure you i don't know whether you go to say that the royal air force. trainers are training saudis to do it there is should they disobey their orders we don't believe that they should be taking part in training programs because they're ordered to where there's a beer is i mean if you. want to do so it was more of a point we would make the u.k. has been utterly complicit in the destruction of yemen from day one it has the u.k.
government right again says it is giving aid to yemen but that's a tribute he has given so many to yet. and we hope that but it is reaching people in need but the key point is the u.k. has also licensed almost five billion pounds were fighter jets and bombs. so in some bombardment began and there is no question that results have been devastating even borders johnson has called it the worst humanitarian crisis in the world yet it's a humanitarian crisis which has been caused in part by weapons license by boris johnson and his colleagues so demonstration is to this week how many people are you going to actually expect there given our large manufacturing industries involved in selling arms to saudi arabia but what we know is that public opinion is very solidly against these arms sales in fact all the polling is showing a consistent two friends of population are strongly against arms exports this idea and terms of numbers of people who are working in the arms trade you're talking
a very small sector of the economy atomic zero point two percent of jobs involved in arms exports now we want to see those skills been put into positive industries sustainable industries of any areas of engineering rather than to companies who are dependent on boarding conflict in order to make a profit and terms of how many people will be there we hope to have as large a number as possible because we want to send the message loudly and clearly that this visit is not in our name these arms sales are not in our name and the and the prince is not welcome in just violently if you put yemen the world's worst humanitarian crisis to one side you're not impressed by reforms not only of the driving but fewer crucifixions that are currently going on in the kingdom as well i understand that one hundred forty people were executed in the last year and has been no slow day in and the executions which are taking place might be doing is a minute for much of someone not too sure but actual numbers seem to be pretty stable when it comes to the real fundamentals here i'm not sure that we have seen
meaningful change we want to see meaningful change and we want to see increased rates for. and there's no question that anybody that company can come in advance is for women in society we want to see total reform we don't want to see these being imposed by a dictatorship we want to see even being by a democracy why do you think british media is. little or no politicians i'm not necessarily sure that the media does but i think that with this with friends he obviously cares a great deal about his reputation huge time and effort into trying to project himself as a modernizer and liberal but of course the naif need p.r. the near we're talking about it in the sense of of an authoritative brutal regime and the architect of one of the worst humanitarian catastrophes in the world and that's what people should remember anderson thank you q after the break britain's
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she was. welcome back as well as welcoming a saudi autocrat u.k. prime minister to resign me this week faces the wrath of the largest trading block on earth after her speech in london on friday and she has to face a divided governing party in the british parliament today on breaks it so what does her apparent disdain.