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the white helmets group in syria even if washington withdraws supporter over evidence of collusion with islamists that's what one of jeremy corwin's m.p.'s wanted to know that this week's prime minister's questions despite the ever present threat of death from both syrian and russian air strikes and in the face of smears and disinform ation the rescue workers of the white helmets have never stopped saving the lives of their fellow syria last week the trumpet ministration froze their u.s. funding with thousands of civilian lives at risk will the prime minister step our pledge the government to plug the funding shortfall that now exists and ensure these heroic rescue workers can continue their work he clearly thinks all the evidence of white helmets collusion with is the mist in syria is disinformation so will teresa may defy washington's appraisal of the white helmets we do support them we will continue to support them am i right i will find the international development secretary will be looking at the level of that support in the future
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corbin didn't ask about theresa may allegedly using taxpayers' money to support groups linked to terrorism instead he went all the illiberal in his support for a post rex at customs union with the e.u. the government says it has two options the foreign secretary says one is crazy even roger's our former ambassador said that the technological alternative is a fantasy island unicorn model of two options niger of which a workable case for a new customs union with the european union is clear to resume reply back querying corbin's newfound support for t. to put the trade deal which could incidentally derailed train renationalisation i'll tell you right on the agenda what's crazy crazy is a leader of the opposition who for years opposed to eat it and now has a policy that would mean they were signing up to. some suggest corbin's lie. long socialist allies have no say in the current labor party as for the
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scottish nationalists they queried why boris johnson had no say in washington's decision on the iran nuclear deal because the prime minister of course didn't make any reference to sending her foreign secretary to peter on fox news as part of his foreign policy initiative pleading with the president to fox news rather than through direct intervention mr libby speaker the middle east is in need of stability conflicts are already a region in yemen syria and iraq meanwhile the foreign secretary can deliver a forty minute message abroad in the correct manner are you going to come all the foreign secretary undermines the prime minister and the customs union prime minister can you tell us when the foreign secretary will both agree with their own government's position and if not will she have the backbone to send them to the park bench it's britain's foreign secretary appeared to want to resign earlier in the week but if there is always former home office minister norman baker claimed on
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wednesday's going underground that the pm acts on orders from the daily mail newspaper nowadays she seems to prefer rupert murdoch's fox news this is absolutely right the government in dressing the issue with the iran nuclear deal with the united states government worked across all levels and they representation at a variety of levels and in a variety of ways yes the u.k. government sees fox news as one of the variety of ways to get through to those in power in washington over the iran deal well joining me now is a member of the u.k. parliamentary party group for iran and british peer buddhahood of rather him lord ahmed thank so much for going back on going underground before we get to the latest conflicts catalyzed by washington what about today's iraqi elections a testament to the fact that tony blair's war has brought democracy to at least one country in the middle east i don't think so i think the price that they've paid and the way the country is fragmented. you've seen in the elections the shia the sunni
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the kurds and everybody is divided even within the shia there are different coalitions but if one thing is arguably true it is that iran was a kind of winner because of tony blair's war geopolitically anyway your response to israel no attacking iran zellers on the golan heights already illegally occupied by the israelis well israel as you know netanyahu has got his own problems because of corruption and the police cases and so he wants to divert some of that very cleverly but also israel has been trying their best to create this wedge between the sunni muslims and the shia bloc saw saudi arabia with. egypt you have iran its own allies but you know you've seen in lebanon hezbollah has taken more seats they are getting stronger in iraq you've seen the
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results so therefore i think defeating iran like this would be very difficult i have a little a debate in the house of lords on twenty first on both to ask her majesty's government what role they can play in terms of bringing peace to syria and yemen because i don't think that any world power can bring peace in yemen and also in syria without getting both saudi arabia and iran together and resolving some of their issues ok you know this region pretty well you've traveled so widely in it just explain mention saudi let's talk about that side of things anyone who's visited the saudi the you're a persian gulf countries knows the hatred for israel almost toward into the curriculum and in these in civic society i just mentioned the girl and her it's you're saying that they're all defacto on the side of israel right now. arabia
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u.a.e. egypt bahrain the bloc of four who are also blockading. qatar as well. of very much on the side are more complicated no we would not discuss it iran is a help for god. but then now can you imagine being mohammed bin cell mon supporting the israeli prime minister netanyahu. sympathizing with the israelis rather than the palestinians can you imagine the saudis and the egyptians and the u.a.e. you know the by abu dhabi and all that supporting israel rather than the. iranians or hizbullah cetera so i think this all those countries i should say will go deny this in any way supporting israel the matter what secret video appears on social media i just hope i really hope that this doesn't bring to
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a full scale scale war in the middle east because the way things are developing if the european countries like germany france britain if the sort of are not seen as real power brokers in keeping the agreement iran agreement a deal on table because even the u.n. of course there's a u.n. security council resolution on that and if you end imposes greater sanctions and the u.n. then manages to pull all the banks and companies out of the deal then iran is saying well then why should we go ahead with germany france or the united was it didn't go through the u.n. security council because china and russia and britain and france are so far they will be in steadfast more greeny of the u. beijing moscow everyone is on iran's side except saudi arabia or israel in the united states so do you notice though. any slight difference at the moment
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in the way it's being reported here the latest attacks on the golan heights because boris johnson appears to be condemning the syrian government. quite openly for tensions on the golan heights which somebody you would have to explain the basis of eagle israeli occupation of the golan heights of course illegally occupied for many decades now look i'm not supporter of the syrian government but having said that we know that israel has attacked many sites and military positions inside. syria as one of the of the foreign office here about israeli and i want to remind you two thousand and three we first were not happy if you remember that big march in london with millions of people i was there and we wanted to oppose invasion of iraq and afghanistan and then suddenly we decided that we would go along anyway but
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i don't think america would dare attack iran i frankly tell you this in my own opinion because even though iran doesn't have the capability of hitting back on. the united states but iran has the capability of destroying the world's economy because if they just start hitting the waters where all the ships all the oil where all the interest of the western world lies right there in the straits. then there will be difficult and larger reserves of energy than in saudi arabia arguably so if we take the united states to one side the european union countries you have to think there's some truth to what president rouhani of iran says that he says the e.u. does not have the capacity to be a global player casting doubt on the words coming from london paris berlin brussels saying no no we don't like. donald trump well look i've i've seen the statement
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from you. they are very strong that we need to act like a superpower twenty seven twenty eight countries whether it is economic military we are yes we are with the united states but if the united states doesn't want to adhere to international treaties then we need to stand up i don't think they will even though when it is european companies are obviously going to suffer because of the end of the iran deal perhaps not by you know so much of our economies do you think that the united states as a net oil exporter that there are the less once you control the oil services is a bit upset about how the europeans who go in there with iran and maybe trump was alluding to that in that speech where he ripped up here on deal to say we want preferential united states access to her but he does that i mean americans have done that in iraq they've done it in other countries lost in iraq china's in their
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bigotry of course but this is this is all because of their politics because they've lost in the whole the region now they've lost even in africa china's all over and chinese economy you know one of your guns out of afghanistan i sort of like beginning of the end for the u.s. being this sole superpower what does it say about the power of corporate capitalism if donald trump can get away with this and it can annoy boeing obviously because they have this big deals with their own little turtle an airbus in the west i mean it is is it not obvious that the deep state so-called in the united states does not support donald trump on this deal you are in the same maybe the mad dog mattis head of the statement well you know even if he's on his own state department does not support him even. for the intelligence director doesn't support him saw something there are a lot of irritant but there are lots of people in the. united states very concerned
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because this is going to damage the long term interest of the united states can turn around and say look i got your four hundred billion dollar contract from saudi arabia i got you hundreds of billions of dollars from the d.c.c. countries because the way i've shifted because i've commentated israel accommodated them and given then the shorts that i can stand up to a lot of the thank you after the break. how did this video change the lives of everyone on the planet and a bit skewed claims of tory social tenzing in one of britain's richest neighborhoods activist poet posted with proper forms from his new book the rhyming guide to granville bridge visible coming up in part two of going underground.
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the iran nuclear deal was one seen as a major achievement of american diplomacy but that's no longer the case donald trump's decision to pull out of the deal has reopened a major international problem and they have to analyze betrayed and adversaries confused. the world perceived. by some officials do not. fully understand or do not fully accept the principle of football being beyond politics that's a fundamental principle of the world football. for granted some people may have opinions but it's their own opinions and doesn't influence opinions of many other football fans who are buying tickets every day in large volumes.
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welcome back this month marks one year since u.s. army whistleblower chelsea manning was released from prison following a seven year sentence that included treatment a un torture chief ruled as cruel and inhumane her alleged crime as the leaking of classified information that included a video of the u.s. military killing innocent civilians two of whom were journalists the next guest can release of that video as a new era joining me now from berkeley in california is journalist and author of the new book wiki leaks the global for the state history is happening doctrine is only high i say welcome to going underground before we get to the world's most famous political prisoner arguably tell me why you begin the book with the wiki leaks collateral murder video well i think that the matter of media really. showed the uncensored maser war the war which has been kept from public for a long long time and they had had a tremendous effect not only the american public but to the whole entire world and
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to be able to see it in many ways i think war become such an abstract concept that we are numb to the real reality by on and so happening basically being done by the u.s. government and many my own government but to actually get to see the real image. of everyday life everyday reality of iraqi people i mean that was a very moving and that was quite shocking and and it really i think it triggered emotional reactions in many people in the i certainly was affected so i started to write on the topic a week eating actually in to set on that when the we could expect this video out of other material and here i'm simple ordinary person being expected this much to start to actually write ends and explore what's happening and you know what media mayster media has not been covering about warts and government
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corruption. and and that video unlike arguably a lot of the wealth of cable information secret documents have been released by we give eeks that even go through the mainstream media filter and was broadcast on mainstream media. correct i mean it's and i think that you know wiki leaks is i consider getting so the invention of a new demand isn't built on the platform of the internet and what it does it has a different completely different and unique features than the existing well there are journalism that is defined and built on the honor again and then we could explore the use the life the power of the internet they say it's uncensored ability to distribute information as the girl rebel so you have a huge i think impact we could use with able to bring the huge in political impact so to the medium of the internet which is a very on precedent it and that newness is that what we're seeing when we heard
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donald trump on the one hand say we love weekly leaks and on the other hand his secretary of state now mike bombero used to run the cia saying that julian a son is makes common cause with dictators and wiki leaks is a hostile intelligence service absolutely i see you know it just as the you have a good emberg invention of the printing press in the fifteenth century and how leads to the explosion the information through out europe at that time and they've created the huge political and social ramifications and in the same way i see joining us either not only accidental journalist or the publisher but also our innovator who actually innovated the new format with john that ism and to give it to the rest of the humanity so i think that you know we and any time that a new idea or invention our technology come about in into our society we don't know you don't really have
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a destructive impact in and we can exert any this threat that the media landscape but i think it's also started to open society into a more democratic democratic state and i think that many people really don't understand what this new in bed. so maybe they're on these and they so they are afraid and they are trying to attack the person who invented this and instead of trying to look at what this new form of insanity is and the really is and trying to benefit from this invention you know people just get scared and then legs are not the son you know he trying to pick up the bunting. british nanny power that came with this new invention so you know when we can fix the b.b.c. information service for his agenda certainly he appraises wiki leaks and then when it's doesn't go well for his agenda you know then he would have sober and he could say this in mensa but ultimately you know wiki leaks it's new invention of the journalism and it can be used by anyone and anybody can benefit from this and not
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understanding this this new invention that people are just trying to attack a genius sounds so i think it's important to understand and important to differentiate during a sound and you know innovator from the invent actually invention not to say you know didn't i mean you know outside of the really important person who created this but also you know so much focus in giving to to do it in a science and then we found to really understand that that invention that came forward now and that is now available to all of us. and some kind of confusion is that the symptom we're seeing when the democratic national committee is suing russia donald trump and wiki leaks in our existing journalism journalism basically done that is the base going to became a gate keeper of the power and that their job is to sustain this facade of democracy so what we have is money so that especially those about who live in the
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west we think that we have democracy we have democratic society we think we have democratic elective. processes and which was basically to be able to be full by the least information by wiki leaks. and the a.n.c. emails and so you know what i think of this new invention of journalism that is really it's open society where john that is you know we would have means to account john that it's in the kind the existing law the old man it's a democracy we have no means to account journalists and journalists could keep acting at the gate keepers of power and wiki leaks that by giving us this new form of journalism allow us to engage ourselves to inform ourselves and be able to hold journalistic on the ball we just finally and briefly the again the book is very
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optimistic the ecuadorian government seems to be more interested in clandestine cia sites in the us meant to be a military base than caring about whether a songe lives or dies arguably do you think ultimately it's that those military decisions in in the western hemisphere that will will basically mark the fate of julian assange and you know i think that. his. sexual misconduct case in in sweden from the beginning it's there was no need to go case it always has been a critical case. and the fact that the during that had to have been bitterly detained i mean detained for eight years ten days so he confinement in prison and two years under house arrest and sick nearly six years now in the embassy over ecuador in london i mean you know this whole thing about just a politically motivated and it's i think judy and freedom really depend on power extending out for him and the public really pushing our own governments and because
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in this it's never been a legal case so it's really his freedom rest on the court of public opinion at this point and i did hope that people understand the significance of this invention and whether you're you know one of how you feel about joining a flood whether you like genocide you are not i hope everybody recognizes the significance of this invention and also the person who invented this is a person who gave this invention to humanity by taking risk and affected by thing his personality but the i hope that people will stand up for him not of his i mean hyacinth thank you thank you. well we're just forty eight hours from the grand fell silent march in west london which will mark eleven months to the day since the worst tower block fire in u.k. history i'm joined now by recording artist and activist poet potent whisper who in
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a moment be performing from his new book the rhyming guide to granville britain which is out now. welcome to going underground tell us about the rhyming guy to grandfather where the u.k. is worst. you feel is still zero emblematic of divisions in britain so the fire a grandfather has been described as many things he's been described as horrific i'm sure massey. catastrophic which of course it was one thing it can't be described as as far as i'm concerned is an accident in fact as far as i'm concerned there was mass murder for the years leading. the resident grenfell action group told casey t.m.o. numerous endless times of the risks to their safety at the tower now for years not only were they ignored but they were threatened with legal action for raising genuine concerns about a point you make in the track song about. resumes as is an inquiry into it why do
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you think your words illuminates what happened to grand feel better than an impending inquiry or the result of an inquiry which will truly get to the bottom of this i don't feel my words would highlight anything or brings anything anything to light an inquiry weren't. see too given that reason may steps up so debris families i don't feel like i have anything to say that hard to read to be can't be said that hasn't already been said by people on the ground there in the community tourism presumably would reject what you have been saying for you in your work for many years now that will stare at me is not actually a choice because new liberals often say that we needed and we choose to be a load of b.s. nat west coots ts we bank of scotland they had to be bailed out there was no choice they needed the money more than the nature ok why do know is that if the point of austerity was to cut the deficit and stimulate economic growth then it's taken us i
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believe an unneeded ten years in order to now apparently get back to prevail our level of deficit so it has served its purpose by cutting deficit after ten years of misery and death then what reasonable justification is there to keep implementing was there it's the measures why do we not reverse the cuts now and say ok well we've cut deficits so that's go back to making sure the vulnerable people who are normal everyday working people have the life they deserve and worked hard for all these issues tackled in this rolling to greenfield thank you. he'll be performing his new poem the rhyming guy dressed there in a moment we'll be back on monday with news from gaza and the world at war author taylor downing on the other world and. really until then we've got with us by social media for your money fifty years today a mass general strike across front would lead to ten million workers occupying the means of production in the fifth republic here with because the rhyming guide to
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austerity austerity has given us cuts to local government over twelve million five hundred thousand council workers lost their jobs cuts to universities eight hundred million reprising fees leaving uni students are lost cuts to services three hundred million sixty from the budgets for our parks cost infrastructure worth fifteen billion cost out of social care three and a half fifty two percent cut from education thousands more homeless people on the pavement fifteen thousand bed cuts for n.h.s. patients these are real statistics not speculation they caught three hundred forty three libraries sixty four museums three thousand plus troops three hundred eighty care home companies three thousand mental health workers a pink up to two hundred playgrounds shop three hundred fifty give clubs shop connections shop they're just sensors shop i would six hundred sure start sensors shop cuts to n.h.s. forty billion over sixty hospitals the trust facing closure health and social care costs alone are killing citizens one hundred twenty thousand deaths and though far
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. but these are just because we think it is we are real people with feelings and patients but the people who live with the results of dead decisions with parents with children with brothers with sisters people ask what is no money in the country well another reason there's no money in the country is because peroration is make money in the country don't pay tax on the move out the country the rich getting richer with money in the country cutting deficit won't put money in the country if the government doesn't put money in the country there won't be any money in the country. ultimately there's just one thing we need to know you got to spend money to make money and that's what britain's broke. their own. time in history and during a crisis like of two thousand and eight where their creditors bailed out the state
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of the debtor slinging going back even to bill before times as the debtors they get bailed out not the creditors but because of the fascism the neo fascism the listed leni like neil fascism between the bankers on wall street and the federal government fused together a corporate hopeful product daisy chain of incest and by all financial shenanigans the creditors were bailed out and the water they do with all the money they inflated the bubble even higher so now i've got s. and p. having an all time highs but the more ality and the ethics of the country and the wealth and income gap i've nosedive. about your sudden passing i've only just learned you were a south in taken your last wrong turn. your attitude up to you as we all knew it would i tell you i'm sorry for me i could so i write these last words in hopes to
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put to rest these things that i never got off my chest. i remember when we first met my life turned on each breath. but then my feeling started to change you talked about more like it was again still some are fond of you those that didn't like to question our arc and i secretly promised to never be like it said one does not leave a funeral in the same as one enters in mind it's consumed with death this one difference has to be taken out because there were no other takers. same that mainstream media has met its maker. wasn't. that.
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bad. but a lot. of the time it was. a russian company charged as part of a trump and russia collusion investigation plead not guilty in court and made prosecutors an effort to delay the case. iraq goes to the polls and parliamentary elections but the photos raise concern in washington as one of the candidates about his policy of countering iran. a top u.s. state department takes those on nuclear proliferation to resigns in the wake of trans withdrawal from the overall nuclear deal rejecting the agreement has come under fire in america and in europe.

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