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dot com i'll be here again with headlines in about an hour's time right now though it's time for some of. them to sophie and callum says. the war in yemen is getting more complicated by the day with an imminent humanitarian disaster looming over the warring factions can anything be done or is it too late today i talked to a former foreign minister of yemen. the war in yemen is taking a new turn. for the red cross to sell corning for a bird to shoot of the country while the saudi led blockade is threatening yemen with full fledged famine. any kind of solution we reached at this point is
a military victory possible for any warring sides and what are the ways out of the current stalemate. dr abu bakar of. the former foreign minister of yemen welcome to the show it's really great to have you with us now dr s. this situation in yemen wasn't complicated and now the protests have now broken out in the south of the country where the south a transitional council supposedly backed by the united arab emirates calling for a popular uprising to restore independence of south yemen is yemen had it into complete collapse. i hope no three i think the. situation is very serious and deteriorating by the day because you know serious action has been taken by the government of yemen or by the international community and the sponsors of the peace in yemen and because of the
loss of direction and loss of ability to and that has turned to the basics of all these conflicts and. the many layers and the conflicts since the situation is deteriorating and will continue to do so yes unfortunately the issue of the demonstrations and the issue of the humanitarian issues are very serious at the moment but. i think they are already flexion of the was most of the hope of a new solution coming forward and then into the host cities of the co for use that exists now in the country so how does the emirate support for the separatists go along with the united arab emirates military backing of press and how does government in the fight against the rebels how can they support what is called the legitimate government and at the same time a rebel group which is fighting against it. i think basically this is the
reflection on unfortunately of the lack of direction of both the transitional council and the government because basically the government and the transitional council know that the southern problem issue has been addressed in the national dialogue and that proposals for the solutions were put on the table and were agreed upon and therefore i think what people have to do know is to return to the outcome of the. comprehensive test taken place in two thousand and fourteen and addressed really the recommendations made by the majority of political parties and governmental organization on sort of in many of the conflicts that today it is since two thousand and fifteen so the region that his he has occupied iraq the corresponds to the former north gammon and the separatists audience are calling for the return of south yemen those areas are very different
different terrain religion history why not just lack the region split and go their separate ways well i think it's just a matter of separate ways i think the unity of yemen was an aspiration to all yemenis and i think the image is as they have united the country in one thousand nine hundred to find ways to dissolve the the reasons for the dissent either in the south or by the horses. and the issue i think is that neither of the who or the who sees all of the separatists in the south have the right to determine what the people of human want i think if anybody want to really a permanent and complete sense of solution they have to sit around the table but there if they want to change anything of the. a national dialogue outcome i think the air. but he will come to discuss how this can be done how to do these all of
the causes of dissent and how to defy and the mistakes that have taken place but neither the who these or the. because. the so the notice can say that we have it isn't anybody either in the north or in the south so yemen which has been there for years has used a situation to take large parts of the south can the south and yemenis take care of the situation on their own right now even though the coalition forces are helping to battle al qaeda is it still a strong as ever. because you mean it is a song i think it is you know just waiting for an abortion if you to see the. country fragment to take advantage of that fragmentation the what's happening in our area as it is out of the war and conflict between the political parties and the leadership in order political parties this has resulted really in
a situation which seems to need to fragmentation and this is what al qaida and other terrorist groups are waiting for so the better for all of these political parties really to get together to see how they prevent this through i mean titian in order to be able to confront the different types of militias including the terrorist groups so the coalition is mounting an offensive that the only port left in his hands to secede it press is writing that cutting to the south the ocean will mean famine death for millions why does the coalition resort to something so medieval as a flood located in the side of. well as you know i think bouquets of oil has been unfortunately and successful. they actually have their impact on the very poor and the very. majority of the people who are who live
on there. it's not a blockade only if you look at the situation in yemen what's making it worse is that. most of the government employees in the country have not received studies or plan how the enemies do it. i think you must remember that every party in the conflict in yemen have their. what is their concerns and they also have their red lines and unless the political solution is. is comprehensive is it need is a negotiated settlement in which all about is it's all inclusive nothing will be achieved no one can achieve a. an end to the conflict and therefore the special envoy has really to address in whatever final proposer of an end of the war agreement
he has to address these hearers of the yemenis but he should also remember that the yemenis every side of them will accuse the other is that they cannot make the decision because they are under the influence of one of the. those and involved in the proxy war in yemen. this complicates things and therefore he therefore he has a need to also see what your concerns and what he's about. the countries involved in this process your own how to ensure that this agreement for a peace settlement addresses their concerns. and this happens i don't think there will be much progress. take a short break right now and we'll be back with dr i will back her up the former foreign minister of yemen talking about the situation in the war torn country.
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and we're back with dr ablow back her abdul out i'll cure be former foreign minister of yemen discussing the war in yemen and what can be done to put an end to it. so dr the un peace talks in september failed because they didn't show up what should be a promise or who say so they actually start talking and settle this as a coalition of an interested in that or do they want a military victory first. i think the best one to answer this question is the special envoy who would knew exactly what happened why the. he's did not participate in the. geneva could consult haitians and that in my mind i think it over. the the geneva
consultations were looked at as a continuation of the previous ones and maybe nobody took them very seriously this is a personal view of the way that it was in the negotiations with. the there were some company cations in the travel of the postseason the. delegate to if you need a. real. need i think the special envoy can also the question what is the arab coalition really want in the end they say that they're fighting for peace and stability and against iran surely after and if it is over they will demand payment what kind of payment can they ask for what do you think. you know i think that they are going to know that they are doing it for free and others they are waiting for payment i think they have. certainly their worries about the security about threats from yemen. as the believe that
iran. would have a stronghold in yemen and this is so i think as i said. with the special envoy has really to understand what are the concerns and what is of all of the. coalition a coalition continues but this is not the end of the story he has all sorts understand what is the concerns and the what he is of the none of the members of the coalition countries about the situation of human so that his days have long range missiles are capable of hitting the united arab emirates and saudi arabia cities united nations security council resolution to deescalate calls for their militia to give them up. but can you really expect them to do that i mean they're already outmanned and outgunned their enemies are backed by the west obviously they're afraid that if they give up myself they want have any leverage
and will just be killed how do you make them disarm voluntarily. i think the this army. issue and the withdrawal well from the cities and old the military speaks of resolving the conflict where we're all issues that were discussed comprehensive the in the kuwaiti goshi asians and there were a number of solutions that has been built and even the roadmap for that implementation and i think if people look back a is the records and try to extract from them the proposals to it were made for disarmament for withdrawal as for own and of oversee there were not that nobody in that order parties would be satisfied with them but i think it's a starting point for people to negotiate and give concessions on all of these issues because unless these issues are resolved the the hostilities will continue
we in the g.c.c. have always seen that long piece and no stability in yemen will continue if there are armed militias in the country of any type let alone having also the militias of the terrorist groups. so this is a real challenge that has to be addressed so are you aware and are still a part of ex-president salish general people's congress he was an ally. and then they start fighting and then he was killed what are sallust people doing now are they joining the saudi backed travel how do you are staying with the who says well let me tell you something i always. get disappointed really when join the list and continues talk about side. so i was a leader of the g.p.c. but we are members of u.b.c. are not offside us. u.b.c.
is a national party with three million members in the country the largest party in the country and the most trusted bharti in the country. relation with the horses started after the. the worst of the coronation started and we were against the war so this is what united us with the with the horses but subsequently with the horses did not adhere to the many agreements that we have with them including how the political council how the government how about the would be of any of the government institutions side i felt it was time for him to break this relationship with with the with the horses and this is what being is connected into the. conflict between the sea and
the horses so no i think we owe it was ition in b.c. is that we are working on ensuring the g.p.c. the means united to face the challenges and the. and there are very serious attempts to try to break it down and to fragment it and i think we are united to achieve that that will have a long way to do it because we are confronting a lot of problems in this process. surely our and i remember our former president once saying that ruling jam and it's like dancing on a had of snakes that's his quote how can any kind of stability in such a place be reached where alliances are always shifting and everyone seems right to fight everyone else well i think that's a very serious important question i think what we need but the only is when we draft in the company has its peace agreement is that we understand that we have to
eliminate all these today acts so that no new dot will come and see to. dancing on the heads of the cynics that this can be his if agreement for peace will ensure that it is the only partnership in ruling the country that is a fearless in distribution off with fairness in developing a democratic and the federal state in a way that to me. assure all parts of the country that gets you there right in government and in and winning their affairs i think that we have learnt a lot i think since two tours two thousand and eleven to know that there are many mistakes before so two thousand but we made even more mistakes of those two thousand and eleven and it is time for us now to stop the conflict to sit around the table give concessions get our main concern to the people of yemen to the
twenty five or twenty nine million people who are starving who are dying because of the war and because of the. core the selfishness of the political leadership so when the war broke out there were just two conflicting sides to how the government and the histories now there's the rebels in the south are in relation and it is forces loyal to the late president salih al-qaeda has to. arab intervention left the country more fractured than it was before is yemen on a way to becoming the next libya rate maybe even worse when i think sister lee i think the coalition will lead the country more fractured and actually start into the parties that they want to to eliminate so president hadi on whose behalf the coalition is fighting isn't even based in yemen he lives in saudi capital riyadh al-jazeera reported in two thousand and seventeen that he is under house arrest how
independent is he really how can he rule the country if he isn't there physically i mean at least president salih was on the frontline tailed and with his soldiers i don't think it is important whether he's in prison or or not what's important is he the allies is as he claims and the world community. insist on that he is the president of the of human and therefore he has to adhere to his responsibilities as president of yemen and look at the interests of the yemeni people and i think the interests of the many people now is to for him to be a major role in ending the conflict and getting yemen into stability and. could be consideration process but do you think that writing on the shelves of foreign forces into the country is a good foundation for
a future stability how long can hardy realistically last once his backers win and go home especially saying how he was overthrown once already. i think again this is part of the responsibility of the special envoy in the international community how as i say that that has to be got to tease for all parties to two feet to feel that this settlement is going to safeguard their interests would be if it is in c. and the government of national unity it once established is to go to get the country through a transitional period that would then and in a normal. political. process for a complete solution. to first thank you very much for your insight for talking to dr abu bakar up to the former foreign minister of yemen discussing the humanitarian and political disaster in the country and that's it for this edition of stuff
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