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overall straight to the naming by the spelling cat organization of an attempted assassin using our team information unless well yes i understand the culture using r.t. as one of their intelligence sources so well done for working for them but no i think the blink of investigation is a fantastic piece of good journalism they've managed to expose the real names of these two individuals and i believe british intelligence services will ignore them anyway but what they've done is the show on the amount of personal information out there is of it on the internet in league databases and elsewhere individuals whose personal security and their operational security should be protected hugely so i think this is a huge embarrassment to the g.r.u. and to president putin he said british intelligence you presume already were aware why did they not tell the british government so that they could sell to the dispatch board and say both of these people are decorated by putin himself well
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treason may did say that she believed that the two individuals were travelling under false identities and then she said very very clearly that they were members of the g o u m blame them very clearly and that's the piece of the subtlety the british intelligence services their sources could have been highly classified sources so they wouldn't want to release the names did upton's to compromise their sources so it's better that it's come out through investigative journalism and through been caught you know what i'm getting at though if the kremlin and the russian government are basically saying denying all of this dres of a could easily is there and said look i've got the passport these are the names and presumably into the dirt that is photo of the friend of the grandmother but she's a she didn't she didn't she didn't need to you she didn't need to go to that level of detail she got sufficient detail into the crown prosecution service then to bring charges all she needed to do was bring charges on it but were good enough for an interpol red notice to go out and so for someone to be. arrested pending
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extradition. proceedings or for european arrest warrant he had to do that but as you know the criticism of this whole story is that how is it these two men in this these great investigative journalists as you portray them. appeared to have outwitted to multi billion dollar nato intelligence security infrastructure because it would be in the interests of nato nations to present this evidence to the public to say we've caught him this is putin this is modern russia well i think that's come out through the group or suggestions come out through the investigative journalism which i understand the u.k. authorities have. not disagreed with the billing findings which is a tacit way of saying we agree with it but he didn't it didn't need to come out. putin was never going to extra these individuals to the u.k. to. be charged to the british people need to be aware that they are being targeted i mean i want to ask you about that what is the extent of this because we're
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hearing i'll get on the brakes in a second but the n.h.s. cancer research supports are dropping m h seventeen betting that says they're going to come on to i mean how in danger are we from well you could you could expand on how much espionage is going on on the daily basis and it's never going away you know it's i think the second oldest profession ever since the cold war finished a lot of the western nations turn went on really into that. we can shift our resources to counterterrorism and they did were a lot of the more traditional espionage leading states like russia china and others that presumably britain has very little to worry about a lot of the hacking operations obviously look at the origination of the ip addresses you can buy a v.p.n. . system online via google for hardly anything you get six months free i'm going to have it at i can appear to come from any country whatsoever some people are doing this illegally do you think the intelligence community here in britain is aware of
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completely aware about but v.p.n. was all good for the keeping yourself anonymous from the average organizational. relation of are you. domain names because they use that to access websites inside russia which wouldn't be allowed to be accessed as proof that a hacking attack originates in russia as opposed to any other country the dots or you or the dots were never. ending on the ip address which is important it isn't the only thing that's used people go in and analyze the script in the way the script is put together and a lot of the people are writing the viruses and stuff that are out there have got their own signatures in the way they do things they'll put characters in a certain order they'll put the put lines in a certain order and the intelligence services of different countries the russians have the services will be doing this as well as the north koreans as well as the americans as well as the brits and allies in script to put together and then time
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those back to other individuals or groups of individuals that are working so it's not just ip address there's an awful lot more analysis goes on and with the pins there are methods of things being tracked further back through the v.p.n. remember the tor network it's a lot of people use an onion ring network was invented by the american intelligence services you're not telling me that there's not a backdoor somewhere in there where they can actually probably true a lot of people do tell me there isn't a backdrop but let's now go and i mean now we have jeremy corbin's deputy leader tom watson writing for more the inquiry into russian involvement in our bricks at referendum back by hillary clinton it appears i know you tweeted john morton say what about jeremy corbyn and how he was elected this although midst a time of people saying well no trouble is elected because of michigan corbin was elected because of twenty zero eight breck's it happened because of unhappiness with the policy do you expect that there will be an inquiry and do you think that
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russia one breaks no i don't think russia one and i don't think that will be an inquiry but we're in a game no we're if you look at warfare we're first changing and i'd say. some. written fantastic book on this is patrick. and this book is called alternative war and alternative war is all about the use of perception so when we're dealing with you as a human being i'm hiking or certain levels i'm a can you think in a slightly different way by providing information in different ways i'm targeting it and i'm targeting that information to meet your requirements shank's mare is the ultimate hacker will shakespear is but you know this is where the whole can be done latika thing came in with facebook because people's individual facebook profiles and this is were that were taken and used to target adverts of individuals that nations are looking at it and some nations are much better using information and data misinformation than other nations you know russia's got a word for a doctrine. which is masking the soon as the statement comes out that they don't
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like other statements will come out from different russian organizations saying no it wasn't us go it must have been this it must been this must been this will immediately after surgery script all got attacked the messaging that came out of the russian embassy was it must have been something of a skit from portland on the misinformation the muscular author that was going we don't know the russians still saying they're not even going to talk about the latest revelations rebelling cat but for that being and thank you. after the break bone world mental health day we ask if britain's children are being failed by to raise amaze government and from the news the british military drones all about the fans i see british prime minister describes a perfect well you know it's called story great britain bill the civil coming up in part two of going underground.
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welcome back joining me now to go through some of the week's papers book author former liberal democrat member of parliament lembit opaque thanks for coming back on little talking about russia destroying this country we're talking about people like you eating meat and destroying the earth to go. panel on climate change the debate about whether it's a down to individuals not big multinational force if your companies you are destroying the earth will to live it in fifteen years god verse eleven fish how does fish create climate change you can literally being serious here you don't seriously think the rich c.e.o.'s using private jets and have multi-million pound fossil fuel companies are doing nearly as much as loads of poor people it's the poor people that are destroying the planet our little rights then how people china is doing loads for renewable energy the biggest infrastructure campaigns in history
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let's go to this story about china yes evening standard report sex and the poll chief manhole way under investigation for taking bribes says china this is after his seeming abduction by the chinese communist party authorities yet have interpol says two interesting parts of this they say he's been tainted by is do young congo who was the head the chief of security he's serving a life sentence as far as i know in china for corruption and they say that he misled mang by his other point are there any other set of circumstances to be an outrage but it's convenient because it's china i saw why the west said it was a un security. council where is everyone talking about this you were the deputy chair of the all party parliament i was shown or in parliament if you were still there what would you be saying about this well i would be saying there's a double standard going on in favor of china on this occasion because the west will probably love this story because it makes china look a little bit dodgy china let's remember a little bit a little bit even to the it's
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a whole conference on november the sixth i'm sorry by i'm not going busy but the thing about this is they like the fact they're a little bit of might be sticking to china remember china's will be the biggest economy in the world and that's pretty much on stoppable now so little bit of doubt going to china's way we all sit tight in any other circumstance this would be the human rights story of the week where we didn't order the british army into. philip ingram just now about this next story that you've chosen i should have perhaps because the middle of it is to say we are safe because of these things to get take us through those well the times post britain takes on russia's military might with fleet of thousand pound drones are amazing and correction is not quite a thousand pounds a bit cheaper than. a gift for families last christmas that's right is that if you could have conscript drones in the event of a russian invasion instead of sending great big tanks and everything else sending a few of the of those into this war games exercise we're sending lots of drones
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that's going to keep the bear at bay option as you look at the bare. bones you make of this well it's a service how much the british army has cut back it seems that this time compared to the last time it's shrunk by seventy five percent in the previous similar exercises there were sixty six challenger two tanks this time it's eighteen and because it's all cyber warfare as we were saying before we don't need any tank we don't need any soldiers we don't need any people his the weasel phrase moscow has repeatedly stated it would never attack any nato allies so all of this potentially for naught meanwhile this tory newspaper well known for supporting that just as the daily mail always puts corbin articles on the front page the guardian the guardian and this is a beautiful story we live in a utopia option as labor voters should look afresh at the conservatives to reason mate what a surprise she would say that but the picture she paints the n.h.s. is in great hands the fact that we've got great investment in education give
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everyone a chance all of this is described in this utopian beautiful paradise type way by to reason make the. welsh advance of all this and i quote theresa may millions of people who have supported labor all their lives are appalled by what has happened to a once great party under the leadership of gerry coburn i didn't know she thought labor was ever a once great party that's the scoop to raise amazing socialist well she must have been. said that one point i thought corbin's expenditure as a proportion of g.d.p. is less than mrs thatcher it's hardly radical but say that and you look at the facts cancer waiting times are at the worst ever level in england one in ten school employees brings extra food in for the pupils who are so disadvantaged and it says treatments fell by eighty four thousand the first seven months of twenty eighteen compared to the previous year she's living in one world where living in another post called great britain parallel universe me thinks more people will work on zero contracts in the time in our history those great stories about the negatives that i
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read out there and some people are taking new initiatives that less thoughtful people politicians are good we don't even think about take us through this amazing new initiative creativity is free option as michael gove proves the new european reports govt mocked for dickensian proposal to allow brits to sift through their rubbish along with this nothing wrong what is this if you like walking around on rubbish tips it's literally to can stand the idea comes from our mutual friend apparently a book which govt loves this is govt michael gove who is michael a very a form of very senior staff horace johnson in the back religious yeah but very senior member of british parliament still a brick city a grandee and he says that the public go into rubbish tips and make something new out of the old you never go into a rubbish tip to seek the old environmentally unfriendly cathode rate television set or washing machine or time with funnily enough not very often but this could be
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the future they could be we should all be doing this that the middle class go there to what this shouldn't just be the preserve of the poor or this is something that everyone should be allowed to do go house not surprisingly being slammed for this way and a half used paint that's a good thing to do i mean they allow us to search landfills aids really i mean this is environmentally friendly in the fall to you for the next few weeks to see if you take on goes idea half of your will be one color another half will. but the other let's all be free because it's coming from landfill are saying that it's rubbish limbers up and think. well as you gauge are these political parties and babs even royals draw attention to the arguable crisis and you gave mental health services for world mental health day today will be even mentioned the impact of years of austerity cuts cuts brought on by bailing out the bankers in the city of london ten years ago this week joining me now is paula peters she's an activist for disabled people against cults and chair of the broadly in croydon united community she deepak and the unite community will be highlighting the experiences of
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universal credit claimants outside of brownlee's job center in southeast london for world mental health day to day paula welcome to going on the grounds of today world mental health day to resume a year ago personally said millions are to benefit from the tackling of the injustice of mental illness by our government how do you see it a deepak a well they live in a parallel universe to us memo toast how do they explain that their children with severe injury and mental health distress are if you have you only get access to children's adolescent mental health services if you're actively suicide or i mean suicidal ideation in the last five years we've seen in two hundred fifty thousand children tonight access to mental health services and support that they desperately need we're seeing cuts to specialist mental health support and scolds and we say in with eight years of austerity mental health distress is actually rising the threat
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of suicide would obviously telling your viewers to contact their local health charities the samaritans and so on but how important is charity to government policy because i understand the the big announcement from the british government is that the taxpayers' money is going to go into the citizens' advice bureau movement yeah we saw. vice one a fifty. one million pound contract from the day no work and pensions to be a good thing sure well they get money from the government for funding when you see citizens advice in some of their surgeries use workfare which is forced unpaid work inside their offices they are very much clued in with the government as are most national charities they're in a catch twenty two situation. government from. yours but i mean is the point where the they are giving money to explain the policy which will basically mean that the
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claimant will be told it says advise you're in trouble basically those are things we can reel off of yet but when you're saying like i say when you say insistence advice they are using forced paid work for claimants. go to work experience since advice if you don't take that work you will be sanctioned again again ramping up your mental distress a lot of these charities there multi million pound organizations. when you see the chief executive offices and i have a six figure salaries to three hundred thousand a year where is the money going when people turn night these charities what we've done in the last six months when we found estimate valet the secretary of state for the d.w.p. was on the advisory board to samaritans where people in serious crisis contact samaritans for support when she was found out she was on the advisory board. along with many other grassroots campaigns run
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a campaign to remove her from that advisory board that is a kick in the teeth to millions of people in mental distress she's ramping up mental distress with the heinous policies that she and the conservative government are implementing today here the diplomacy work invention secretary gave quite a bottom strong speech at the conference raised quite a few eyebrows right across the sector. i'm sure she would she would deny that she was doing what you're saying any hope that the united nations investigation into what she's doing a d.w.p. for these alleged atrocities that people like deepak are alleging. any hope of the united nations can do some first of all we refute wholeheartedly. what estimate very said last week that the cuts to. payments for person independence payments employment support allowance jobseeker's allowance are
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real news and we have eight years of evidence to back up news yeah well it's not fake news they are real stories millions of people affected by these policies can say you know i've been plunged further into poverty and destitution as a result of the he and his policies and regard in the united nations investigation there's been a year is of written and oral evidence to back up millions of crime and. who have been plunged further into mental distress further into isolation as a result of d.w.p. policy and it should be noted the government where the first state in the world to be formally investigated the united nations convention or the rights of people or disability in found guilty of grave in systemic human rights violations then in twenty seventeen the committee ruled that the cuts that disabled people and people
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in mental distress were experiencing murtha human catastrophe on our lives and the un rapporteur for poverty is about to visit the u.k. here in november and they're coming here because this overwhelming evidence to show that disabled people people in mental distress are plunged further into poverty by the cuts this government right making it's not fake news it's real news and we need to continue the fight to get the truth out there of what this government and when the ball of work and pensions and universal credit is a big element of this they say they committed to ensuring that every child gets the very best chances in life. relation to that they've told us household incomes have never been higher fewer in absolute poverty ridden three hundred thousand children the tories alone or with the liberals have got thirty billion if the un special rapporteur isn't let into britain because of course the special rapporteur was not let into the so-called detention camps immigration outrage against what would you
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like to tell that records that they may know who was the un have heard from families who've lost loved ones as a result of. mental distress. because of the constant reassessments they've met with great. terrorists coming to the u.k. if we could say anything to the rapids. you know here the millions of people who've been affected. has been affected to cuts to mental health. who have been left are. affright left in you know marginalized in the fringes of society this shouldn't be happening in twenty first century britain it shouldn't be happening anywhere in the world poverty's across. all of you just thank you and that's it for the show will be back on saturday with martha gellhorn prize for journalism twenty seventeen a finalist for this a b. levy was just got back from it live in syria as u.k.
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backed islam is giving out taste final defeat and till then you can judge by social media will be back on saturday twenty eight years of the day that syrian forces liberated lebanon. when a loved one is murder it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murderer i would prefer it be the death penalty just because i think that's apparently the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict just found denizen the idea. we were executing innocent people is terrifying there's just no way that hasn't been that we're even many a victim's families want the death penalty to be abolished the reason we have to keep the death penalty here is because that's what murder victims' families what that's going to give them peace that's going to give them justice and we come in
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