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generally cool been in well most labor backbenchers against the tories against the . i mean some people think if this whole thing collapses that there will be an early read general election there's a lot of labor m.p.'s trust me who don't want to enter election because there is terrified as i am that jeremy called in when the general election they don't trust him they think they'll be a flight of capital out of great britain they're right it's already started and of course it's informing a lot of the decisions but the odd thing is always already in control i don't think he is i don't think he's in control the big humiliating defeat for the prime minister this week was laid down by a back bencher called yvette cooper who resigned from corbin's front bench never before have you seen how out of step the labor leadership is with these backbenchers you don't see these as the sinister triangulations of corbin's team chambers will the that your newspapers be a pretty i let me tell you and i'm very well never jeremy corbin's team don't talk to most of the m.p.'s on their own benches because they're in a bunker and they're
a cult and a small sect and that's why we've seen some m.p.'s defecting to these new independent groups and i think more will because this problem about the second referendum is a huge problem for a lot of labor m.p.'s remember when he became labor leader comrade corbin he said that the party conference will be the platform a policy is made we won't have policies made on the on the downing street sofa which is the way tony blair did it the party conference labor last year said never really general election you want to second referendum he's ignoring he's well he said if a general election really started happening where it's not coming do you just say that while a money on ok well let's go to donald trump he's been tweeting my administration looks forward to negotiating a large scale trade deal with the u.k. the potential is unlimited that was before the article fifty debate in parliament countries are lining up already i'm sure are we are this economy is booming there was a statement a financial statement this week which is almost overlooked by the chair. philip
hammond where he showed trade growth is slipping a bit but jobs crip being created at record numbers the economy the economic fundamentals are good and strong and we've got a good story to work you know even preliminary deals with japan turkey india career these are the countries on what was the fair alive and i don't mean there is a very wide as you go she wrote this very important ok what about we should have done better we should have done better but i know for a fact liam fox the international development sector has been flying all around the world with these t. it's trying to drum up support and i think some of these trade deals will be fall into place much quicker than people think trump loves great britain just finally what what stories could be buried during all this wall to wall coverage of the bricks of debate because philip hammond the chancellor said again that welfare was going to be frozen rountree trussing five hundred sixty pounds a year worse off for poor families and also
a knife grave seemed to be saying it's nothing to do with the more complex issues it's just the police are one hundred billion for the police yeah one hundred million for the police ridiculous when we could fourteen billion pounds says i support giving money for internationally but not such a huge amount of money just some of the dodgy i would control what the money spent on i would have i would want to wear my money's going and the hundred million pounds that they've announced to the police isn't even threats to offices it's fall over time over time so these hard pressed police officers already working flat out have to work even harder to make up for the fact twenty two thousand police officers numbers were cut by a certain home secretary to mention her name it was trees in may again country chris thank you well while u.k. media focuses almost exclusively on the backs of crisis u.s. authorities are building their attack on julian the sons of drug to detention in britain is determined by the un refusing to cooperate in the grand jury against the wiki leaks founder as collateral murder army whistleblower chelsea manning already having been tortured she's now known for outspoken views on freedom and the rise of
authoritarianism. his encroaching in every aspect of life whether it's government our corporate or. technological chelsea manning was jailed this week with an indefinite sentence until as the virginia judge said she purges about the circumstances of a revealing to the world the extent of nato nation war crimes her case arguably encompasses philosophical concepts of the nato military industrial complex ranging from freedom to neo colonialism to the illusion of consumer choice i'm joined now by skype from to be honored by one of the world's most popular living for lots of his subject some i welcome to going underground before we get on the philosophical concept of the rest of the news your thoughts about chelsea manning the former intelligence operative who was of course tortured we had p.j. crowley over the state department will give out that she's been jailed again what do you think. i don't think it's especially not on an event on i think it's more of
a kid here sign of the day but out of the industry of the american establishment to get good young astonished. that classic you better whatever it is are doing because what they are putting pressure on her to give her mark dot dot about how she was contacted we expand it here at that point he made bob meet the dot dot he or she clicked that and so on and so on so i see did this by of be ongoing getting stronger and stronger campaign against weekly and i think when people talk about liberal freedoms and so on and so on really unless almost make it make many mistakes but he's great in mark even the contribution needs to make us aware of the extend the week we don't know that many people ate that and so on and so on and for me the best face of so many in the west coast is google is just
a bribe i got out of it as well and i say now people that criticize us don't wish for not ducking or are some are but i mean to be very cynical here and nobody like my honest sarah but i didn't i said you have been trying not to stand up in a sense that you don't believe in a western style you don't leave it out that it's in bottom to show how you want to condone you know mad at god because they believe that fully in their thirty dove they think they are funny and dumb or if you think you are pretty well can be moderately going to generate income that way and so on the mark i'd leave your home throw this to me i'd go off all of these digital forms of combat although they don't even appear as an experiment as far as they're just controlling that by association be crashed and decimate the establishment mobilized or it's far since i don't people know if you go. even by big public media which are considered more on the left like in united in going back out they are mostly less lately in their i
mean most you get against a charge you had to do in the signs under arbitrary detention here of course in london and his work on google but this week the british government says that these powerful tech companies it's more a question of consumer choice whenever people are sad it freedom of choice i am lending the year i stayed you know left lane instead allegedly about freedom yes three don't buy three don't four home don't walk. they say yes trade of choice freedom of course the truth what what our act while trying my metaphor here is that most of the choices that media present us week our choices in the style of their own bad go or a diet back here these are choices we didn't start occlude labor because you managed lead and we move out of there what politico even in.
much more of. a cause you also been writing about the fact that those who perhaps sympathize with that they've kind of failed i mean you mentioned series of course in greece the cradle of western democracy the us continuing war in venezuela we've had anti semitism so he has here against a recall been left leaning congresswoman accuse of these things yet you say that actually. there's new needs to be pessimistic yes i agree with what you're sad and i think this is so very sad lesson for those who still want to be left there it's all too easy to invest all energy inc ok disguising don't you want our guy now being united states and so on and so on but we should never forget that the new nationalist bob police moved east the result of the state here. of the liberal democratic ken better or even less than i think the establishment is becoming aware
of this we should buy it moment more moving at least minimally authentic less who question the most are deliberately spent this meant what kept us lately in the united states on going into his very nice box on but only send us older stuff he's only a little bit out of. there's a memo from establishment a louse and that's my own crazy as it may sound the don't back date is not we openly about how the lunatic outlet released what they're about us vs new york fascist i know. but i think it will be a united state or a starting pitcher and maybe. fate of the county is what goes on in the book on. my favorite same kamala's the dog days great disorder under heaven so if you do a solution excellent this might. just be great oh but there is no knowing cause and
switch instantly situation we shouldn't get any better i just do what they need oh my god let's all unite against fuck you that i wish for dana. and see over to me how we can use the situation where keep something in the direction of the market i think so i'm going to stop you then more from professors leveling off of this record. that.
her. it's up to the government to step in and be a player in the economy not just an enabler for mom you know the government should be. heating for health care and drug prices they should be competing in transportation and education and they should offer an alternative people should be able to get a public utility bank for example account and get out of the matrix of the big wall street banks they don't have that option they should have that option and therefore you would restore some competition in the economy. this is a stick a. phone in the stomach of a fish the brand is spawns of the coca-cola company which sells millions of bottles
of soda every day the idea was that let's tell consumers there are the bad was there the litter bugs are throwing this away industry should be blamed for all this waste the company has promised to reuse the plastic. funding me. on the. phone now the mountains of waste only grow. up. if. you come from
a fair amount of the so you don't want to. pick up because a couple of. you just got me. because they would be ok sunny. more gentle for a while for you because i think. you want to know before you get home think nothing nothing. long time i'd like to know when i can something . i don't want to deal with the united. join me every thursday on the alex simon show and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sports business i'm show business i'll see you then.
welcome back i'm still with lots of savages yet it has to be said that one response to people who talk about progress say the problem is actually fake news you've used the phrase uncontrollable plurality don't you think that first what. fate can use we can't do week not i did he was going to leave but i'm not at peace so he is going to not be both in the stands in some sense one baek fake us scotty so i think what those in the establishment when he when they do people are fake news is not lice it's stock it's some other bit it's no longer one then put out a lie that they can't control you know fact all race bought all this sort of india logic or that not the starving they stop nothing post-modern indeed so here i would crack jokes when people are faking it the most effective and dangerous lives
lives which operate which by shows you're correct sound doctrine which are undoubtedly true and you organize them into and i did we pleased in itself and i show you nobility no easy way out here like oh we really don't you're just just the truth and so on and so on but the trump thinks the news is so important in the media you think that say in the case of venezuela fake news from new liberal media wouldn't be enough to overthrow the bill of aryan revolution he does will require military law so i mad men i quote that against palin who are not. against me rushing twenty nine i think and i drink or let this be ancient you said both are websites i think both sides out west and oppression here to asian in venezuela but you know what's so dangerous about guide dog of course of course
united united states but you know you i get my do up i got into it again the enemy of truth in meat that our food problems in venezuela i'm going to probably out of going here i'll probably enjoy meet the police operation and. one and so on that's what made him relatively effective it is still a bit mediocre steadman this to a lot and so on and so on so again i repeat my point is the most dangerous fake news in the us and so far as you know logical politically motivated propaganda. money the truth with us and them end of truth ok will you blame i mean the e.u. inherently blame maduro that partly then and do you think do you test actually yes it's obvious you have a point that's my stand that i think the basic problem that i see meet my poor and the really big job is not the me but i don't beat the corruption or what they're
about it a very sad mad message that even childish already and especially by the were are they didn't believe in. stock think finding often include people who don't buy the benefit of the free market they make on a possible experiment pre-show shooting broke out of the coffin of use and so on and so on so it's not just morally. it's already said less true about the base mark because they don't really care if you but. i really i thought you actually praised his role as different attempts but i'm going to ask you really. isn't a damned but already equal speed i follow i'm going to thomas the situation closely it's clear that she was just a lucky guy by lucky i mean carrying enough money from oil and they wanted to want to buy and then a lot of stock think and you know. so she has
a spare production which can be organized in a different way from capitol hill sheep paid and i think now i mean they do another get it frank thing i think that ken's and the big lesson of economic new york along with a great natural resource use can be carps a great course i'm not going to claim that maybe if all of a sudden most of an issue ls oil immense reserves going to disappear maybe more do what it will loose interest in fairness to a lot and maybe at some other modest lad out there with compound and you're right but what if i can just go to the european union obviously i mean what do you if you are an advisor to the british government would you be trying to overturn the result of the referendum and keep britain in the european union or do you see that thousands drowning tens of thousands drowning in the mediterranean let alone the
imprisonment of cattle and politicians mean no country could ever be part of this institution know that here maybe our positions are a little bit different i'm well aware of all the limitations of the battles bureaucracy and so on and so on but they still think that why then do east european don't you know i'm so universally pay day but i see it as a threat i think that nonetheless in spite all of these. options and so on and so on that are about out of inefficiencies bank or worse and so on and so on i think don't wait out it's not back but actually it has dangerous. illusion. that the bait the way to liberate ourselves from the control room. and so into all it is to return to us the whole going to nation. i think i just
don't think far more on think many british people even the financials mind claim we've gone through the list is to barter us off but we want to got loose from brussels to beat us and the banking or financial regulations we want to build a stronger welfare state and so on and so on weight and meaning i remember blatter government got in conflict wheat bassus blair that rejected it and made us to protect the environment and the imposition of a much you know i would just rather trust or some be allowed to better during the week and so on and so one so but my point about it why then in europe bothering anybody but i think that the idea talk united europe is still something to look into the present for about the interest of the change of course it's well i think
far it's that i'm just not sure that it is and isn't we try school regularly in the sense of calling on well i think that we we really need these marked and about the banks so how far would you have would you go with this reformist so the voyage is a reformist agenda then obviously thousands and thousands of dead or injured on the streets of paris over there's a liaison as i said turning to houses oh yes i saw you know you actually did begin to fake us are you serious in saying that well there are three thousand injured at least ten deaths linked with the protests before today's john denver yet again the things that are much more ambiguous here for me it's easy to say what you are saying where. i'll go and meet him at a profit off gallo west do they also know that at the date it will stink they're wasting their time then being felt well again however you are too many for me to
think that left in peace they were to be able to propose. that they're all going to know that's wrong at least i claim don't dally in close event because the future of ache well pleased movement in good condition the only way i would be handed to the bar yellow west but the way they are moving canal then they'd just move gradually in the direction of. some type of. oil cost and that the state money in the bank bought at least national least. i am no longer have the stocks that many less scared i called. him to go he spoke of our g.d.p. but in this case so where are the only people that. we should listen to eat we can learn something from he bought last practice in a nice way week in spain likely beat forget about their big deal as you go if you listen to
a lot of united people. now you know then booked away and that at the state we produce them just to see how they are almost all in but he doesn't include their own if you will be and not get. less than a master of wrong doing by listening but one of the many people as well asylums even criticised by ordinary people for your saying a call for the left to embrace its radical western roots as well as what he said about refugees there are tens of thousands drowned in the mediterranean thanks to the cameron sarkozy war in libya not just europe the weather troops doc don't of these problems what mate if you look or are you just exploitation off i think i'm count that it's what happened in kiryat in iraq who cooked up the guys you spat and so on and so on if you're just open up it's bar dust then it could be a catastrophe because it just happened by let's me ocular petey are here we can't do
a very difficult choice either. immigrants are coming in allowed to flow in but in disgrace we have to abolish democracy because the majority of the people he's clearly against and so on and so on so we have to and i didn't really change the approach here no clearly meet our standards again you and he got me on my guard but if you dish out there let's step back again and ask our stance how we are completely in or do you think candidate going to do a clean sweep make if you stand by nonetheless i just don't think that many people would be a lot like europe did not embellish at least germany received quite many they have your genes just look at the numbers just how many if you place in founds not to mention generally not done this in spite of the horrors of the ongoing. what about other companies you need to dump it indeed for me the other book standing in if you
. need to use it if you please read only. egypt and so on saudi arabia well why baccarat in and out how many refugees did they accept the sheep not what is going gone down and the same companies i don't proclaim euro forty two your cent very close up and so on and so book it really doesn't tell how many refugees would like to be in those countries arguably but i'm going to finally i'm going to finish though with the title i don't get think now because this sounds nice and human but i think. it's pretty thin country and do you know give if you get there if you're dreaming that right truth dead date well then you know much of what crazy community even is for me don't use being dead the basic human right to bathe eat that you're going to move though any company of your choice and the amount of their company don't take care of you i think the means.
explosion means. a dog in debt got three issues not. option so you think that the refugees basically want their cake and eat it and they want the welfare state and i don't think they want to be clear many of them not all want to be. in the stench of enjoying the benefits of the best of companies but. you're dead they don't want the invasion. lifestyle i am i asking you what do you about ok there i know i know and that's. ok don't open this don't bark us don't know i'm ok dead we should be in europe do you really want to take out the regime. change of anybody can come and go on we eat their way of life but on the other hand we should respect demo meant but when we do mount the same for example i'll come to show you the sum of all beat and so on presence is
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the construction really you need to transfer. well crimea. was google for more. the infinite has no bill for security so we have to take it to a different level and we have to take the new failure to his five g. level when you can embed security security as an industry and the security has all they need to expose the fears and all they can devise is so that people get freight and they get they should know we have to come up with no infrastructure it's very important to start thinking positively about the north to build a new system. during the great depression which i'm old enough to remember there was most of my family
were employed. there wasn't it was bed you know much worse objectively than today but there was an expectation that things were going to get better. of there was a real sense of hopefulness there isn't today today's america where shaped by the turn principles of concentration of wealth and power. reduced democracy attack solo debt engineer elections manufacture consent and other principles according to no on chomsky one set of rules for the rich opposite. that's what happens when you put her into the hands of a narrow sector of will switch will is dedicated to increasing power for chills just as you'd expect one of the most influential intellectuals of our time speaks about the modern civilization of america.
more unrest in paris where the yellow best are back on the streets for an eighteenth weekend in a row a producer for news video agency roughly was hit by a rebel the man behind the worst massacre in the modern history of new zealand has been charged with murder after shooting forty nine people in two mosques a manifesto that surfaced online.