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finally. has completed his investigation into so-called trump collusion with russia there are no additional indictments. but the follow. now matter of time here we're going underground as chinese communist leader xi jinping visits france hours after the nineteenth consecutive shiel asia on uprising coming up in the show on major nation economic war zone countries from venezuela to iran just syria illegal under international law we ask the united nations special rapporteur on sanctions ambassador idris does a raid and will the war ever and as the yemeni conflict enters its fifth year we ask u.k. angio reprieve. a man arrested in britain under the terrorism act for his political
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views about the true cost of u.k. backbones plus the great n.h.s. heist twenty one days before g.p. signed a contract that could change the n.h.s. forever we speak to dr bob gill about the neo liberal politicians and the private companies that are robbing the taxpayer dollars are more coming up in today's going on to grab a fast while bricks it paralyzes the u.k. britain like the e.u. continues to engage in economic warfare with countries all around the world called sanctions in mainstream media they actually illegal can the bank of england really just withhold venezuelan gold in the u.s. sanction iranian banks joining me now via skype from geneva is the man who should know about cedras just larry is at the u.n. robert are welcome to going underground we better begin with what the job title is special robert turner on the negative impact of the unilateral coercive measures it's clearly about life and death but what's in that title. which court sense that
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it looks it took the entrance you heard right said right oh you're the electoral sanctions that there's no sanctions which show considered to be illegitimate. those sanctions which are not the result of that. serious decisions at the security council every other day on the media we hear of a britain or a nato nations say or the you putting sanctions on another country you're saying the only digital of way of sanctioning another country is with a un security council resolution that is correct but one must realize that this is . an important issue which is underestimated by public opinion because today i could say that at least a quarter of humanity a quarter of the people of the world live in countries which are targeted by sanctions so it should be major problem as an impact on the enjoyment of shubra
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rights by simply how different millions of people and yet there is no un accountability for these liberte should these sanctions but let's go let's go to some of the cases as you say a quarter of humanity the united states is clearly violated the nuclear agreement with iran for instance britain and the european union are against the u.s. violation but then does that mean that the u.s. sanctions against iran are also in contravention of of the international law. doubly so because as i said for the reason they mentioned that was already a culture bed should not of the ok to national know in addition to that there is a good as they call it which says that they agree but that if iran. stops developer you have nuclear weapons that all sanctioned by west countries will be
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live now also act on countries of doing that but that you want to cite it to withdraw from the problem jerry is that they have means statements by the by did your right to state to the effect that those sanctions will be that. constraining what did the world so that be that the people of europe are going to be submitted to a terrible pressure and. look where some trades and i don't take this as share it's a get you have to disagree but went up at a political leadership to try and sort it out with bad or promise led to a big o.c.a. solution but that made the people is no track and then did you have met with people that submitted to such death that you should because of outside sexual they usually randy rushdie yes but that didn't change the regime then same applies to all who
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are so bad that i would like to say here that do express my deep gratitude to the united states for have a find an excepted to lift the sanctions against their so that by the bed that was a geisha or that when the bomber ministration already ate and by the process once got blue did by the president break their stray ship and that is. destined with the well quite diplomacy get it cheap if there has been some success over. bashir in sudan what happens to you in the office when you hear the news that someone like frederica moore greeny of the european union stands up and says right the european union we're going to choose those president of venezuela kind of and tell the oil superpower there's going to be sanctions on venezuela well it didn't take to go to
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bed and the air future didn't see it from a search area back says. people are very aware that even i did say that the situation under the president reagan stray shipments perfect they all have their meat by doing it to a certain extent but nevertheless the people they get the people should not be made to pay for the actual got big by their government so. it gave to go that i know that's a lot of. media hype about their situation it's a bit of people if you read the west the press on starbase you know that their private memory of their. bed instead of the strange dances that their people are certified big paid for live but they're not ever state of shabbat so i need to go there to see what it is a rare situation but i do believe that it these questions know where their big trip
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be it will be over the use what i can do is to be a catalyst to help the parties get said babo site of the solution ok did you know you've made your contention is that the that the e.u. has committed a unilateral coercive measure in sanctioning venezuela without a u.n. security council resolution. at schools although those that like sanctions are better there's earlier should carry out a tube or impact assessment. review to make sure that where they applied these sanctions they're not making the situation worse for grace it is a. whether it's it better though whether it syria i can't take the argument that is if oh by. the trade source countries of searcher to say we decide they do apply or to extend the sanctions our country a or b.
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because of the failure of the government to the door it shore proper respect of should break right by by apply exact shows which will deprive people of shrewd mitigation she made it very of sublight we are. adding julie exacerbate the human rights impact it we criticize shrub. the country targeted but then of course those that want to overthrow different governments in nato nations would say your giving compliments to any u.n. security council member for making your sanctions illegal obviously russia britain has been sanctioning russia increasingly since the british government has alleged that president putin has been ordering assassinations here who are those sanctions against russia are illegal and what effect of the sanctions having in changing
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russia well let's start with a positive defense spanked iris refer to the case of rosa. a one of the worst aren't just reduces a little bit you know it has companies not only russia but it's several other countries the sanctions applied by the u.s. were. at stake. the lives of council last summer and again at the general assembly october last year for the united states to review their situation and to look funny about just once babs said that board of directors of bruce. show is bucked up maybe if they're sent to employees have to bathe not only russia but baker or elsewhere have to pay for this dispute and this is what happened recently so that calls for an expression of appreciation
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to the u.s. for having respond that made this lifted that sanctions are now there are other sanctions which are applied are russia and the whole street dual shrub russia to generate it is the subject of extraterritorial censures by they write states and it is a problem that even the e.u. questions questions the right of a country don't need to sanction or get country with also dual bell and its allies to also apply there and the best or the initial countries domestically or oh a fair country there exactions we have to get john bolton on to go in terms of national security advisor to see what plans are against chancellor merkel of germany over nordstrom but can i just finally asked you about the benefit of
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i mean your this has a rubber door in the negative impact can there be sometimes a positive in a in damascus to convene to oppose the u.s. role in the region we know that china and russia countries both sanctioned by european union countries moving closer together can sanctions sometimes. bring countries to gether against dominant. nations more like the normal eye movement almost out of sanctions. as i said. lying sanctions the country usually so that a government that your try to. stabilize. the case. i could also make sure they. see that. it was up to the sanctions were lifted let the government of them
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should have started going to drug administration robyn's population. try to prove what did back edition of live eight. so this is the lesson hey you guys if you want to change our political system. then you should do it apply sanctions because you'll likely bite but show that president to consolidate insist that you are trying to special robert thank you for the right when will the world's worst humanitarian crisis ever end we speak to a consultant to the yemen embassy here in london and n.h.s. emergency we investigate the private companies going in for the kill under the cover of bricks and chaos of the civil coming up about to have going on the ground . the money polaski is dead right so the money velocity would measure how money is
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being along down from bank to bank to bank bank bank which is a measure of economic health is dead and if the money printing continues to increase some sort of asking the question why is the money not getting into the economy they're printing more. welcome back to mars five years since the war began in yemen now the world's worst humanitarian crisis with twenty million people at risk i joined now by consulting to the yemen embassy in london by roger brown is a caseworker middle east caseworker for u.k. and geo reprieve thanks for coming on. many people might be surprised there is a yemen mission of any kind in britain the way we see it on the news is this is just a number almost natural humanitarian crisis how do you see the yemen war progressing
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though into it if you well i think starting from this point one of the main issues that will happen when yemen that the yemeni voices are not been not been heard the main i think debate that is happening here in the u.k. is really the relationship between the united kingdom and saudi arabia not divide developing a yemen policy that is really focusing on what is happening in yemen and why are we in this conflict that the u.n. can't resolve the jeremy hunt can't resolve you know usually there is some kind of ceasefire holding in the data port where all great for an even visited britain of course giving some of those were aid in the world right so so let's talk about the ceasefire so what happened is that the both parties signed the stockholm agreement in late december what happened is that and then the seas were able to redeploy their forces to the province of the in the north and they escalated
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a big big conflict that was then has been happening for the last for the last two months and now i know the area because i visited this area in two thousand and thirteen. as part of my role in the national dialogue so i was representing the youth delegation who were coming from the arab spring protests simply so in two thousand and thirteen there was a national die. bringing together the new constitution and we were supposed to have a elections and the referendum in two thousand and fifteen before the who seized it unfortunate unfortunate events of the coup which basically tipped the situation and drive drove the country to do things to remain the same when living under the saudi backed words in this dictatorship well the situation you need to understand what was happening in yemen in two thousand and thirteen and two thousand and fourteen to understand why are we in a conflict today we had a national dialogue where everyone participated including that. and we came out
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came out with the transitional justice and the new constitution we called for the referendum and the new elections but because in two thousand and at the end of two thousand and fourteen they don't need this deal anymore they don't need to come for their friends anymore because now they have been more empowered so they took over the capital by force this basically drove on the revolution well i mean basically call it whatever you want it is a coup at the end of the day then they had some today an assassination attempt on the life of president had this basically in the terms of the basic basic sense if you try to kill a president you will tip the situation you know you will you're going to cause a conflict. to the country of yemen wanted her to go on or even tried welding with the death penalty well then get him out in the coming elections they conservatives want to protect their relationship with saudi arabia and they think it's good for
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this country as well as the labor government and the labor government to be to be afraid of but today then you have people like jeremy corbyn or emily thornberry criticizing this this this policy mainly about their relationship with saudi arabia again yemen as the country was happening in yemen why are we not having a successful peace deal this is not being discussed. when you have a ceasefire over the ports of and then in escalates and in the another part of the country so you made the successful ceasefire in one parts but then there is no guarantees to the rest of the population what's going to happen to them then saudi forces are going to blockade the board and leave them as well nutrition and now you need to have a comprehensive approach to the to the to the situation the main topic that is not being discussed why are we in a conflict today and again i bring back to you the situation in two thousand and fourteen and two thousand and fifteen we had a transitional justice we had a new constitution is that is that really the reason or is it because western
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powers dating nations supported her she wanted to create a proxy in the air which is of crucial times in office where of course were numbered at that time when he called for their friend and the elections his days in office were numbered you didn't have to do this is it enough to go to israel i didn't have to drag the country into a conflict because that they just didn't like it doesn't make sense the people of yemen do want to really just replaced with another nature proxy have elections there is a process that the all the many parties agree to including the two cities that we have a process the process is that we end up with elections and this is how you vote in a new government you do not drag their country into a conflict because you just don't like the sitting president the u.n. panel of experts just january released about the amount of weapons have been going to the who sees from iran and the amount of money that has been going to the who
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seized. from iran so basically the conflict has. managed has been as cause the iranians even to support the who these even more sources on the ground we were speaking to said the missiles and everything was way before because it's been blockaded that don't take this from me this is the u.n. going to the u.n. panel of experts who are there are on reviewing weaponry coming in. so the country said that the who things have been receiving weapons and money via media tree companies through selling of some oil by iran that is not that's not obviously the reigning government denying that there's anything weapons to be there shooting limited to the un experts and speaking of un they're just fine the israelis obviously on the side of saudi arabia in this conflict. u.n. human rights council have been criticizing israel recently and jeremy just said that israel will be any measure from the human rights council against israel will be opposed by britain what i think britain's role is generally in the area of your
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expertise really as part of reprieve in the whole region i mean i think the unfortunate situation is we have a. bias towards israel from the international community in general were written is just part of a part of that and you could see when the discussions for example happen even in the us congress when the congress and home are makes even the slightest slightest comment is not even you know accepted by policy needs to be accused of under so much as yeah yeah which is i mean i think and for this is the unfortunate reality that there is an ongoing bias towards towards israel which is not helping the this conflict from being resolved any time soon thank you. the only time the world's arguably most efficient health service the n.h.s. appears in the news at the moment is perhaps a drum of headlines about post bricks it made in shortages but is
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a fury over article fifty covering up a much greater scandal that has implications for everyone joining me now is n.h.s. g.p. dr bob gill he's the producer of the the great n.h.s. heist ballplayers for going back on this deadline in may what is it critical for all g.p.'s in this country and for all people in england and wales for general practice has like the rest of the n.h.s. been underfunded since two thousand and ten hidden under the. austerity narrative and what you have is g.p.'s struggling to cope with increased workload and amount of manpower crisis so the government has engineered a desperate situation within primary care so that they will grab for additional resources but what is hidden with this additional funding that is coming is a contract change they want doctors to sign up to a network and what these networks will be will grab the patient list and the budget that goes with it ok but people like you recall when shadow health drafts with say no this is there are some good things about it integrates that's why it's called
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integrated care systems you think some people are just naive or innocent of the fact that integration means it's much easier for a big healthcare multinational to go blow it up well they spent years disintegrating the n.h.s. breaking it up between purchaser and provider but what the integration that simon stevens is proposing is the integration of budgets before they handed over to the insurance companies integration of social care budgets integration of n.h.s. budgets for social care as we know is mostly means tested and there is also a charging infrastructure so this will allow back door charging within the n.h.s. with the hostile environment we have the infrastructure already being laid within the n.h.s. to charge immigrants and suppose it's health or a switch on not a burden on the n.h.s. the amount of money going there is miniscule but they are putting in place an expensive infrastructure what for because they were heading down the left when plan
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which he spelt out back in eighty eight that we need to extend charging to the point of universality and this is all part of this complex deception that is underway and just are reminders that kind of integrated system nation most expensive system with with millions of people employed in useless administration will be. the origins can't go back to nine hundred seventy one weird or. edgar kaiser made a proposal and the nixon presidency adopted it and the key point about it is the incentives the incentives are to provide less medical care for the patient so within this new network contract being proposed to g.p.'s is something called the shared savings scheme now for the first time they're building in a perverse incentive for your doctor to not to refer you and to deny you care now this is a major. perversion and detoxification potentially of the doctor patient relationship
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and so when the government tells the g.p.'s to give voting right now or signing the documents when they say one point eight billion of the expense of money on course for the n.h.s. the structures are there basically to steal that money while you have united health subsidiary optum already embedded across the n.h.s. it is there in the administrative systems the financial systems they're also looking after patient data so they are embedded already very with they would say steal but what you mean is well you have these intermediaries at the heart of the contracting with all the money leaks away well potentially they have to put their fees there and we know that or at the moment there is a lawsuit in america which is looking to sue united health for defrauding the taxpayer to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars and that was done through a fraudulent algorithm that they managed to sell to medicare the state insurer so
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that is that is in the courts at the moment this is the potential for industrial scale fraud if we invite these american giant corporate into the n.h.s. but the other thing about the networks is g.p.'s are being food into this is additional funding for potential your existing work but the reality is there's also a parallel program to significantly shrink the hospital system cut beds further cut thirty million. outpatient appointments and this work will dump be dumped on to the g.p. so this will be money with very dangerous strings attached and the loss of control of the patient and the budget that goes with it so you would certainly your advice after that diagnosis is definite as they don't sign the integrated care systems document. but there's also a class element to this which is the way elites being creamed off from those people who may be able to be most articulate about what you're talking about so they go to a private health drift is an erosion of trust as you say mainstream will cover one
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n.h.s. failure after the other which you are genuinely happening any departments are struggling so the starfall losing trust with the system the patients are losing trust and eventually you will have a middle class drift over to the insurance system and you have heavy advertising you have more and more employers offering employer based insurance once a critical mass has drifted over then there will be the next step which will be to withdraw more funding from people who can't afford private cover but the targets of these reform is for the premiums that they will be paying and then in due course if they become seriously ill and expensive insurers will look for a reason to dump them and this is when the plan for i mean we often do a good government incompetence and lack of organization you're saying this is a conspiracy going going back decades well there are key documents you've got oliver letwin document britain's biggest enterprise which he wrote for the center
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for policy studies back in one thousand nine hundred eight you have the adam smith institute document the health of nations which spell out how to get from a public service to an insurance based service over time without too many people noticing again just briefly there is some hope though the brown catastrophe years appear five new ways and now being sought for policies in government or in opposition government that those could be broken up investigated for fraud and. it could be the end for those b. of a company's well that's good news if it happens because pierre fi has been a key strategy which was a key tactic necessary to assist the land grab without that burden of debt you couldn't justify a narrative to sell off public. own death threats and say well you know this land is now space we no longer need this hospital that we all publicly own so we will demolish it and build luxury housing that all human will be removed that pressure that cost pressure of p.f.
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i doubt it needs to be tackled in a way that doesn't pay off the creditors and doesn't leave the taxpayer deeply out of pocket but bogle thank you. and that's of the show will be back on when's it speak to the object of the paris climate change agreement christine if he goes until then he was judged by social media still once or. officer. to get up off the ground. heard them first on the sounds of. the grown man the christening essentially. twisted away from the officers. of his group. they obviously did a kind of lunge for the web in one smith's and then when it happened on trace one. didn't hit him i never saw any contact with. any kind of went back to where they
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were so the officers back here there try again fifteen feet apart at this point and that's when the officer is gone and he did it on three. join me every thursday on the alex simon short and i'll be speaking to guest of the world of politics sport i'm showbusiness i'll see you then. two years of digging and one conclusion there was no collusion between donald trump and russia during the twenty sixteen u.s. presidential election that's not stopping the president's rivals from thinking. it was a complete and total exoneration there's so much that needs to be you know taken a look at this point and so it's not the end of everything. both sides have come to
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