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in the national security state and companies and so on and so forth. and she should have never been sitting on the bench this one was in candace and. i've never said i've sat in a number of courts all over the world i've never seen done nothing like this it belonged in the. in a. in a show trial in the 1950 s. moscow prague your name out. and they call this is this is london do they know what's happened to justice here because stalin's show trials will broadcast what you want to do is it was a broad broad cause there's no reporting of that he didn't make gentle villain news here he knows that he has a around the world but not here in the deliberately entry deliberately excluded the most important case a publisher and a journalist is brought to
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a court he is convicted of nothing charged in this country with nothing he is the charges against him not only concocted but as his q.c. pointed out yesterday the treaty extradition treaty between britain and the united states has. a specific. section in that that says. but a person cannot be extradited if the offenses are said to be political the 16 of the 17 i leased charges against a songe in the united states are unlawful they are political that that's not an opinion that's not a piece of agitprop they are under law put political there based on a 1917 law coldly espionage act which was used to chase down
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conscientious objectors i mean the media here in fairness is more interested ugly in this case of. bass in the killing of a british teenager that extradition is interesting presumably lewis though in court was saying this is our closest ally and julian assange has endangered the national security of britain's closest ally let alone the hacking charge which isn't political is it. heck by lack of charge even though a heck of a single hacking is raj even those in even the prosecutor in the department of justice in the united states is dismissive of the right to charge and that would be thrown out of court. the fact that they have he repeated the old cow nod that there is some kind of conspiracy between chelsea manning and julie in the song they were never in touch there was no contact there if they did they read the transcripts of
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the court martial of chelsea manning they tried again and again to prove a conspiracy that existed between julian and chelsea and there was not was the u.n. mentioned because she's you know unmoved by any of the reports i don't know where the. attorneys and she voted early on moved but she said it's not up to this court to consider the conditions in the prison but just not what we're here to do today why isn't it. why is it that wasn't that was the city just dismissed it you know the mat the the man has been so mistreated i have see i saw him last. his spirit had returned in some way because there was something ahead there was a court case there was the beginning of the fight but watching him in court that
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spirit just deposited these last almost 15 kilos in weight. he's isolated when he walks through the prison the all the prison is a pope back and the soles so that. he can't fraternize with the. he's only allowed to talk to people in the so-called health care which is he right he labels that is one flew over the cuckoo's nest the guardian newspaper to which julius sons gave leaks revelations about alleged war crimes they've previously alleged that he's had meetings that he denies and so what i'm not sure they've done it yet but there are meetings with her with the don't trumps former campaign manager is the manifold you know that's a fabrication we believe is still up there on the guardian website what a well you know number of fabrications on the guardian website the guardian those
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played an appendage role to the state in undermining. we keep leaks and and the and everything it represented. but of course there are people in authority arguably tweeting this is faking it in court to try and get off because he can get off on healthcare health reasons. i know you go to these questions action. but it's really we shouldn't be describing the he. even or even suggesting. that somebody who has been so abused so mistreated as julian assange is faking it a thing the courage of this man and the fact that he is when i ask him how it is he's always reserved on like
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a i'm ok i'm alright he's always wants to reassure me and reassure others who see him that he's ok when clearly he's not ok i know because we discussed on thursday what he might say in court and i'm i'm sure that he he practiced and tried to memorize woods but they could come up but that's how that's how upset he is the baby is governed and you know with that 2nd paragraph of what he said was was quoted in some media yes they published take excerpts of this they're saying so julian the journalists and we wish will blow zoran amazed at the people they have a unfair advantage dealing with documents they know the interior of my life with my psychologist what he's there he's referring. to this case in spain
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which has proven beyond doubt that the cia was running a spanish company all the time he was in the ecuadorian embassy to spy on him not only just to spy on him but to spy on his lawyers on his doctors when they came to see him on people like me when when we came to see him. the spanish courts are looking at the allegations of a cia contract in spain bugging you meeting julian j. robertson q.c. one of the biggest name is he one writes buress will again written by the judge in westminster quote on monday said. didn't seem to say that any of that is relevant to the fact that proceedings cannot be delayed in and in reference to his extradition to a grand jury in the united states. and she gave no argument why. the decision was made simply because the decision had been preordained
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say that this is what the state wants and this is what the state will get regardless of anything to do with the court regardless of any defense argument when it goes pro pealed and it goes out of this wretched straw to her of of injustice called the magistrate's court system and into the high court when does that happen that could happen there could be alone time it could be some time if the end of next year. maybe. day off today julie and julia was a maximum security prison where he has no access. to proper exercise no access to proper intellectual stimulus no access to to to to the people around him when people are in in there for some really.
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terrible crimes. they have to have the help of a human social life that's tonight julie i'm a journalist. but why do you think you know journalists you've been working in journalism for a century or whatever why would anyone in a b.b.c. news room an idea newsroom say this is not worthy of even covering on the main bulletin here in england because you're talking about it as being this great important case they're not interested in this case they don't even have to say that . they don't have to conspire. society it's absolutely built in to a system of media that is an extension of the state an extension of the established order propaganda is as we've often discussed on the
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show is the most is the issue of our time but this time outside the court when you left the hearing you called this country a rogue state i was actually referring to the united. but broad johnson's ok. of course but. britain has in its justice system there is perhaps a glimmer of hope so i've just said when it goes perhaps there is what goes into higher courts. there is no hope in the united states which is a false democracy. the justice doesn't exist invite the u.s. ambassador to london that's the johnson john pilger thank you thank you after the break. u.k. m.p. chris williamson calls the treatment of the world's most famous publisher julian
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assange an offense against humanity and ahead of any even a vote of no confidence in his government is u.k. prime minister boris johnson spending tens of millions of pounds trying to deny the vote to ethnic minorities all this more coming up a budget going underground. and . there are no official statistics in india consenting children who have been lost all separated from their parents some are to estimate that every 8 minutes in the country the child goes missing. lot of.
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law in the last. 30 odd make up. the national human rights commission stated that $44000.00 minors go missing every year while the police quoted 80 the united nations children's fund has described the situation as genocide and various sources suggest that in india there are several 1000000 missing women and children. what politicians do something. they put themselves on the line and they get accepted or rejected. so when you want to be president. or somehow want to be. at it like to be close it's like them before 3 in the morning can't be good boy as
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i'm interested always in the waters of our. question. during the great depression which i'm old mr remember there was and most of my family were unemployed working class oh that wasn't it was bed you know much worse objective listen today but there was an expectation that things were going to get better. there was a real sense of hopefulness. there isn't today today's america where shade my the 10 principles of concentration of wealth and power. reduced democracy attack solidarity engineer elections manufacture consent and other principles according to no i'm chomsky one set of rules for the rich opposite a real sure. that's what happens when you put her into the.
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will switch rule is dedicated to increasing power for tools just as you'd expect one of the most influential intellectuals of our time speaks about the modern civilization of america. welcome back well in the 1st half we had from john pilger who was in court with wiki leaks founder julian assange on monday as he faced 175 years in u.s. detention joining me now is british politician chris williams a new table to motion in the british parliament condemning his mistreatment in this country chris welcome back what happened to the early day motion involved well look i tabled a motion in the last session of parliament was tabled and was allowed but i'm now told i tried to read table a new motion condemning the treatments of drill in a song and have been told by the authorities that it is subject to see the is
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enough in this studio but you know nothing to. the speaker however does have the right to waive that standing order and allow the motion to be tabled and so i've written to the speak could sue ask him to do so the success in which he can do that is where matters of national importance this isn't just of national polls this is of international and pull something we're talking about somebody who. those war crimes are the united states in afghanistan and iraq. but we're also talking about the way in which jews want to be treated in this country i mean this country is in contravention of the u.n. ruling on torture he's been held in solitary confinement the u.n. is very clear about nobody should be kept in solitary confinement and only in the very extreme circumstances and then only for a maximum of 15 days you know we've known about this the impact of soldier confinement for you know well over 100 years and yet here we are in the 21st
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century in britain we are a facsimile subsea submitting somebody who in my opinion is an international hero to this level of of of multi absolutely outrageous and appalling excepted your call in the u.k. government's treatment of us under a grotesque abuse of state this is the courts the british government it's not the florida law then to listen that boris johnson the home secretary and i've written to the home secretary could intervene they could release still an assault and indeed i'm calling on them to do just that juventus are just all nothing wrong he's performed an international public service in exposing the abuse of state power in exposing war crimes in exposing the abuse of corporate power as well and what really unger's me is the lack of outrage from the political class and the total absence of the mainstream media in actually speaking out about this i mean this is one of their own this is a fellow journalist but even the shout of them said you did say in parliament that the extradition of julian surge must not happen because of just embarrassing us
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military and security services we've heard nothing this week since sunday is appearance in court from jeremy corbyn or diane abbott. well i mean look diane on both john and jeremy of both made their position clear i mean i would obviously like them to speak out again but i think it's really incumbent on all of us to to bring pressure on palm and terri ins to speak out and to demand government action to release and this is just unacceptable but that wouldn't cause raising this man who still most certainly nothing wrong i mean obviously i mean presumably corbin you'd expect on a program to do this pending whether there's john bercow decides that it is of national importance and can be uttered in the quasi court of the of the palace of westminster the thing is the labor m.p.'s under jeremy corbett people like stephen kinnock said it's more important to remember rape allegations that agrees the older tweets about rape in respect of your is gone or appears to believe there are actual rape charges against you is that it's labor m.p.'s that seem to be opposing corbett
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well that this is despicable and frankly that they are completely misrepresenting the situation and i don't want to say lying about the situation but there are never been any charges of rape the gates to jail in a song and this this whole process is going for the moment has nothing whatsoever to do with anything that did or didn't happen in suite i always say you know never let the truth get in the way of a good smear and and it's quite clear that in the song has been demonized he has been smeared in the attempt to denigrate them and to try and justify this outrageous is appalling treatment to which he's being subjected to right now a cult stress enough how he how they are lazy it is the labor party's breaks it shatter breaks it secretary was running the c.p.s. when apparently doj emails were going all over allegations against assad's use jeremy corbyn basically a coward when it comes to julian songe when it comes to your suspense from the
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labor party is he a coward jeremy made his position clear in relation to julian a song i think in terms of my own situation regards to the suspension to which i was subjected it's difficult for the leader of the. policy to you know be involved in those internal you know take your labor to court and well i did and indeed i took the party to court one in the high court over the original injury because all mainstream u.k. media well they misrepresented it again because i did when the high court case against the suspension will be suspension and i've written to the labor party now demanding an apology and demanding my reinstatement however what the party officials tried to do was to delay that hearing they tried on 3 separate occasions and failed on 3 separate occasions after the 3rd failure they recognize that there would have to be an early hearing i think they they realised that they had very little chance of success and so consequently i within 36 hours received a letter from the party issuing me with a new suspension now we did ask the court if they would rule matters well what the
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judge decided in the circumstances regrettably was they didn't feel it able competent to to rule my 2nd suspension because he said although that the 1st suspension was unlawful that doesn't if you like insulate me from new allegations and they're relatively early in the process because the only levelled against me a week before the hearing right now when i stand is that there may be an imminent election you may not be able to be a labor candidate despite all of this if you want to be in the labor party where german chancellor john mcdonald said that. campbell tony blair as the iraq war linked communications director the he could be in the labor party and that tony blair should not be arrested well look my view is that the labor party doesn't belong to the parliament terence it doesn't belong to the party officials labor party belongs to its grassroots members and i think what john mcdonald was
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talking about was his opposition to auto expulsions you see i think he said brought in by by new labor my own view is that we should have a moratorium everybody has been suspended or expelled on these bogus charges should be brought back into the labor. we should be trying to build a a mass movement not be looking to find ways of throwing people out of the labor party and you know i'm hopeful that we can win through in this and i do believe the labor party is the best vehicle to deliver progressive social change in this country and as i've already said the party belongs to the hundreds of thousands of people who are in the country the grassroots members that do the whole work and it's on that basis. i'm proud to be a member of a labor party and want to continue to be a member of the labor party represented in parliament if i get the opportunity chris williams and thank you well we covered the iraq war with g c h q whistleblower catherine gunn played by keira knightley in the new film official secrets on this show since april garcia the general director of the statement a b.b.c. has got back to this programme about allegations of the film he told us the film is not a documentary and its portrayal of me is not fair or true i don't recognise any of
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what i'm supposed to have said and done that no one checked anything with me i wasn't involved in the story in the way portrayed and the films characterisation of my role and opinions about the story are untrue as the filmmakers know well take your pick believe the editorial director of the b.b.c. or the director of a new film outlining the subversion of democracy at the un and here in britain let's now turn to another argument attempt to subvert democracy joining me is going underground deputy editor charlie cook charlie haven't seen you for a while it must be really really serious u.k. news not so interested in the issues we've been covering in this show they're interested in an imminent general election here in britain what have you uncovered well i've been looking into voter id because the next election the government's planning on introducing widespread voter id across all polling stations and this means you have to take a photo id with you when you cast your ballot now boris johnson's team said it's going to tackle electoral fraud and protect our democracy labor leader jeremy corbyn however has called the policy
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a blatant attempt to rig the result of the next general election now for me 3 questions arise one how will the new system walk to how much is it going to cost and $3.00 how much electoral fraud actually is there in. u.k. so number one it's seemingly going to be as simple as you take your i.d. with you and if you don't have an id then you'll be given a local electoral identity document how much is going to cost well the project is estimated to cost $20000000.00 pounds per election and those ideas i mentioned are going to cost $11000000.00 pounds to produce 3rd question is a little more interesting how much voter fraud is there actually in the u.k. the answer appears to be shockingly little of the 44000000 votes cast in 2017 there was a single conviction resulting from 336 allegations of in person voter fraud then actual commission itself said there was no evidence of large scale voter fraud in 2018 now it's also important to voter id schemes won't protect against kind of ballot spoiling or postal vote fraud so taking all this into account and the cost it seems
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to be a kind of mismatch in how much it costs compared to how much a factor like using a tank to run over an ant hill you know but wait a minute there was one case of illegal voting forest again finger on the pulse of the was a bulletin issues facing the country well yeah home secretary pretty patel has been insistent on bringing back this image of the conservative party as the party of law and order despite the contradictions that may bring up so this fits in well that more insidiously however some are alleging that it's true purpose 1 is to block black and minority voters as well as the poorest and all the traitors in society from voting let's just look at the evidence from when this was trials in this year's local elections across all 10 trial areas 1968 people were turned away for not carrying i.d.'s at polling stations all of those 740 never came back that's over a 3rd now take this into account alongside the fact that according to a 2016 electoral commission report 3500000 u.k.
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citizens do not have access to photo id and $11000000.00 do not have a passport or a driving license and the report continues that black and asian people are far less likely to possess a full driving license white people. most likely it's 76 percent asian people or 62 percent and black people are the least likely it is 52 percent so this led to accusations the policy is not only disproportionately costly it disproportionately effects black and minority voters and the accusation is kind of been bolstered by a 2016 report commissioned by the government led by the now lord pickles who's the former local government minister and his conclusion was that electoral fraud had been allowed to take place in muslim communities because of political correctness covens also alluded to this he said that the people the tories are trying to stop voting will be disproportionately from ethnic minority backgrounds and they would disproportionately the working class voters of all ethnicities i'd like to draw attention to also one more state within the electoral reform society that said that the windrush scandal showed what can happen when millions of people who lack id
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shut down by the government so this all looks a little like will be happening in the united states over decades of us in south carolina instituted voter id law in the fifty's yes so this conversation has been going on for a lot longer in the us and it regards quite a lot of more sophisticated policies including aggressive gerrymandering and kind of the purging of voter rolls in places like ohio and georgia that this allegation against republicans has been widespread that they're trying to disenfranchise black minorities from voting one example worth mentioning is governor scott walker who finally lost to see in the 2800 midterms but before that for almost a decade had been trying to put in policies that would stop black people from voting like here in the u.k. in 2011 he passed a law requiring voters to present government issued id when voting blocks for years by a federal judge she said discriminated against black people when it eventually came into effect in 2016 it stopped at least 45000 people from voting taking into account the margins the trump won by you can see why boris johnson with his minority government looking as it is might want to borrow some tactics and i
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contacted downing street for a statement they haven't got back to me but the p.m.'s official spokesperson has previously said that the move is a proportionate and reasonable step to improve the security of the electoral system . adding the voter id is run in northern ireland since 2003 but that any impact on the number of people who go and obviously if it works at all the island it'll work for everyone else things that's up to the show will drag on saturday 72 years and they will newly released documents of kashmir the group will break today in the conflict between nuclear powers in your caucus on the job thank you doug back social media and don't forget to subscribe to egypt on a. visit this is a sticker from the water bottle phone in the stomach of the fish the brand is part of the coca-cola company which sells millions of bottles of soda every day the idea
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was that let's tell consumers there are the bad ones there the litterbugs are throwing this away industry should be blamed for all this waste the company has long promised to reuse the plastic. soon. to manage. their plastic the only thing you don't lose that special projects funded. on the new vest that is the end of. the fun now the mountains of waste only grow higher. in a world of big part of the lot and conspiracy it's time to wake up to dig deeper to hit the stories that mainstream media refuses to tell more than ever we need to be smarter we need to stop slamming the door on the back and shouting past each other it's time for critical thinking it's time to fight for the middle
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for the troops the time is now for watching closely watching the hawks. facebook and google started with a great idea and great ideals unfortunately it was also a very dark so. they are constructing a profile of you and that profile is real it's detailed and it never goes away turns out that google is manipulating your opinions from the very 1st character that you type into the search bar it will always favor one dog food over another one comparative shopping service over another and one candidate over another they can suppress certain types of results deiced on what they think you should be see if they have this kind of power then democracy is an illusion the free and fair election doesn't exist the more road we give them the sooner we're all.
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6 hours of talks between the president of russia and turkey result in a new plan for northern syria one that forces the removal of kurdish y.p. g. forces from a border buffer zone meanwhile the u.s. defense secretary arrives in iraq to discuss baghdad's objections to american troops relocating there from syria he's just come from saudi arabia which has been a far more welcoming even agreeing to pick up the cost of the u.s. military there. plus fears rise that the mistakes of the 2008 financial crisis will be repeated as economists accuse us rating agencies of going easy on big firms that are heavily in debt.


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