this hour all across the welcome to our to international my names you know. it's been a landmark day for nato with the leaders of its member states gathering in london. series of high profile disputes in recent months including over funding. looking to ease the tensions chief it seems has been feeling optimistic. does your breakfast president trump. it was awful was a good breakfast. orders . as always paid by the united states.
well the alliance is chief to see if he expects the member states to agree on methods to further strengthen up the summit and of course the spike growing divisions inside the organization itself we've seen a few examples in the last few weeks nikki more. happy birthday nato that's 70 years of strategic economic and security stability especially if you ask them yourself nato is the most successful alliance in history that all those strive to join showing the historic suspects of no 2 on liberal nato and they does been the most successful alliance in the history and the reason why nato is the most successful launch of these 3 is that we have been able to change in the world is changing but not everyone is in a party mood the thing is the alliance members just don't get along as well as they used to. the advent of donald trump has 13 least which stop the dynamics
nato is obsolete it covers the soviet union which is no longer in existence this led to questions over whether the alliance can even survive donald trump perhaps in an effort to mollify him nato has announced new spending projections and a new formula which will spread the costs of the alliance in central budget between its members a move that might prevent any more embarrassing trung tirades aimed at his nato partners the relationship with nato has been very good the relationship with the secretary general's been outstanding i said it was obsolete it's no longer obsolete but the truth is he's not the only potential party pooper. in october this year president emmanuel mccrone of france stole the spotlight when he dubbed nato strategically braindead while questioning the validity of article 5 of its founding treaty that is the commitment to collective security. nato is
a collective defense alliance against who and what is organizing who is our common enemy what are our common issues these are questions that deserve clarification but this idea is quite similar to the one expressed by another dissatisfied nato member turkey. term. he has not received the kind of robust support it expected from nato in recent years meanwhile turkey's president appeared to demonstrate his true feelings towards the alliance when he chose to spend money on russian defense systems rather than american so not exactly the model that nato member but despite these similar complaints about nato tensions have escalated between turkey and france in recent weeks with mccrone warning to keep it cannot expect solidarity with its nato allies if it continues to carry out military operations in syria response but only up the ante so. i'm talking to france's president emmanuel
macron and also say that nato 1st of all have your own brain death checked. as for the u.k.'s boris johnson well there's another verse or a gathering could not have come at a worse time. for boris is clearly invested in maintaining the special relationship with the us he knows that a loose lipped trouble giving a glowing endorsement could be catastrophic donald trump is coming to terms with the shortly he offered his support for you and indeed for my colleague module for russia on this radio station is that world com what it what we don't do traditionally. as lobbying allies and friends what we do traditionally is get involved in each other's election campaign heated when nato was forms the common goal was clear to stand against the u.s.s.r. but the thing that once held the alliance together is now the missing piece what is need is biggest threat today. uncertainty and unpredictability we haven't
identified one main target but you see much more complex i'm much more unpredictable security landscape with a more sort of russia nato needs a purpose and reads our russia as an enemy they have no real purpose so it is propaganda to. russia is an aggressor and this is a good reason to buy a lot of. rocket phrases and so on and so on most probably they will continue to accuse russia to be an aggressor so they have a reason of existing and they will continue to buy arms billions of dollars and this is not their very good contribution to peace in the world. with the 1st day of the summit in full swing crowds are already gathering in central london to protest against that some of adopted the slogan no to trump no to nato well let's go
live to the full. who's been following the protests a big turnout is expected how are things the valid thing there. people are still gathering here union there are a couple of 1000 people just behind me in trafalgar square there are a number of different banners and flags being put up really perhaps of them out of the nation of different causes happening in the world right now solidarity with the indigenous people in bolivia all the way to people waving palestine flags and of course one of the cool messages an anti trump anti nato message by many of the protesters who are here this afternoon or this evening also later on in the day we're expecting a number of workers from the n.h.s. the national health service who are going to come out and also lend their voices to the protests because of course the rof is from them in particular and others in the country that post brags that there could be a deal a trade deal between the u.k. and the u.s. that could see as part of that deal the n.h.s.
being privatized something that many people in this country would not like to see now of course donald trump has visited the u.k. before it's not the 1st time we've seen protests thousands of people coming out on the streets before so we expect this attendance to fill up many more people to attend this evening now i'm joined by. the war activist from belgium and also alexandra noya who's a parliamentarian from germany firstly ludo thank you for joining us today on r.t. why are you here well we are here because we want to protest a nato summit is taking place today and tomorrow and we are doing this because for example nato is forcing its member states to increase their difference budget for my country for example belgium it means doubling. defense budget while we are asked to have an austerity policy in the same time there are tons of using this money to transform armies into intervention armies we have seen what this means in libya or
in afghanistan this stabilizing countries and sold another important issue is the confrontation policy to towards russia which is exactly creating this kind of arms race so there are many many issues why we have to oppose nato that's why we are here thank you and it's the venue of many european leaders have said that nato has been instrumental in the success of the stability of europe since the 2nd world war how do you hold up to that claim now. opinion about this after the cold war it could be in politics have you preferred to have so called family of european countries this means a security quota for all countries including washee are below us and so on if this was. so it. wouldn't take place or yugoslavia so nato instrument forced the couple to listen to west to destroy societies to be twice destroyed countries and so the left part is on the side groups of people and
against nato and this is why i'm here to show it is. being claimed by some european leaders like emanuel perhaps donald trump has been undermining nato as an organization do you think that's likely is there a possibility of even donald trump possibly taking the u.s. out of nato if he wins a 2nd. well of course there are some friction since side nato and nato cohesion is in danger we have michael also saying it's a brain drain nato is a brain that i don't think it's a brain that but you see that many european leaders are upset by the lack of coordination in strategy. and as well what is happening in northern syria you know in turkey it make it creates a lot of frictions and so i think. what they are. trade off now in the summit is that this will be a show again of trump. lashing out against its other colleagues and they are afraid of it and that's why today. the great this summit to
a new anniversary summit of the 70 university of nato but you see there is some problems in this issue making but in the long term i don't know what has happened trump is really pushing very pushing much other countries to have a fair share and i don't know if they don't do it what will happen with the united states but i think united states needs nato to be to control europe and to control it say also i and that's why there he won't leave in my opinion nato alexander if hypothetically tomorrow nato ceased to exist would not create perhaps a security vacuum a security problem in europe that would lead to instability this is an old argument done by the conservatives and liberal words i don't think so what we need is a new security architecture what i say to the security quality if. this is what helps it would just secure. thank you both of you for joining us on r.t.
this evening thank you very much and so there we have it 2 of the attendees who have come from the continent to express their opposition again both to nato as an institution but also to donald trump himself as a politician who has problems for a number of reasons different groups but. he said thanks very much for gas in central london starkest the sayings on the british council. where we asked people in london for their thoughts all nato successes to don't. offer people what they think are the main 3 achievements of nato. i'm not going. to you know here in terms of achievements know very little i don't know what it's about have no. any advantage of me tell you what you know i honestly don't know anything about it until the flags the other day and only my husband recognized what it was poor it's a good question but let me think of
a little bit. so one is probably. to be honest i don't have i don't have even one although the nato summit is in its early stages don't rock the party by saying his french counterpart has insulted the organization. that is very very very nasty statement to you essentially 20. 1 of your countries it's a very tough statement to make when you have such difficulty in the premise you look at what's happened with the you know if you look at what's going on during certain parts of this exhibit year and you just can't go around thinking steppers like you know it's very disrespectful. while a similar theme another aspect to this nato gathering as the u.s. president was jetting off to london his administration threatened to impose huge carlos on french goods including cheese and shell pain telling me more earlier
charlotte didn't see. well to add into those tensions that nato there is even the simmering tensions between france and the us this comes after the u.s. has threatened to add more taxes on french products in retaliation for the so-called gaffa tax this is a tax on digital joints such as google amazon or facebook and apple suggesting it will levy those taxes of up to $2400000000.00 some of that own products such as champagne on luxury goods such as handbags and also the famous french cheese some of these products could see taxes of up to 100 percent doubling that price for u.s. consumers now the u.s. trade representative's office has said that this so-called gaffa tax is discriminatory and trump is hittite to gauge that tax saying frogs will not be taking advantage of his watch. friends say terrorists. again these are companies that are against you know they were against me if i read
the papers correctly or whatever because they were going through their supposed to be very powerful and you know what so maybe they're not so her but there are companies i don't want to bridge trashing american companies if they're going to be terrorists it's going to be. well for france's part they think that they have a right to the slice of the pie of the profits of these big digital giant saying it's unfair that they've chosen to put the european headquarters in low tax countries and that's why they slap this 3 percent levy on these companies this year and the french finance minister says he's furious it is unacceptable that america is now threatening more taxes. this is unacceptable behavior by the united states towards one of its main allies france and europe in general in case of new american sanctions the european union would be ready to respond at that. in the mix
of the all the tensions we've seen over the years between the 2 administrations things such as the iranian nuclear codes and of course the us administration pulling out of the paris climate records and it looks like. lot of discussions a lot of soon face is that this native meeting an unlikely that they're going to be popping the champagne corks as they should be celebrating the anniversary. of the program on the anniversary of the world's most devastating industrial. still affects hundreds of thousands of people today more than 3 decades old where live to india after the short break. honest labor has spent a mollusc in america and the average income for americans hasn't budged at all in
2030 years because they were neutered from their ability to compete for capital labor has no seat at the table labor has no seat at the central bank labor has been abandoned the jobs have been shipped overseas wall street now gets all the crap they get 100 percent of the capital every dollar printed by the fed goes directly to wall street bypasses labor bypasses ways of. the world is driven by shaped by one person. who dares thinks. we are here to ask.
well the reason for the incident still remains unclear to this day the indian government continues to argue over the handling of the disaster but the company which run the factory at the time called it an act of sabotage back in 2018 former plant employees were sentenced to 2 years in jail a piece of the rights groups working with the victims said the verdict was too late . say we can go across to india lakshmi curator of the remember a bhopal museum now you're very welcome to the program the incident is considered one of the world's worst manmade disasters what consequences to people there face so long on i 35 years. yes it's been 35 years today
the 2nd generation in many cases is the 3rd generation of survivors of that disaster people continue to have less free long lingering if this video tree injuries cancer incidence is very high hormonal. problems people have the disabilities the read of the disabled children were born just the way it was families are families living in the other car by union carbide a factory is very high so it's the 2nd then the 3rd generation and continue do they continue to suffer debilitating health has the impact of the tragedy that took place in 1984 and. you see many many families were destroyed they were pushed forward because you know able bodied workers could no longer work and they could not bring home. could not find full employment saw a number of houses lose the families thousands literally tens of thousands of
families overnight were pushed through diluting alyssa's and psychological trauma arms and. economic hardships so do you think enough lessons has been learned from that just going through describing all the effects not only direct but indirect as well do you think lessons have been learned since it happened. i would say no. it was because of the gas tragedy that india passed the bill you took the. law so we have the legislation in the books but it's very very forced and industries whether it's indian industries or government run industries or private multinational corporations the continual to do to engage and does in the rampant pollution of rivers of soil around them and every lucian and these continue to look up 3 so it's only in forests it's in and
even those who try to mobilize the timms and fight for justice in my mental just as it can dig decades and you know indian judiciary is all burden is a stick very long often dawsons go to the courts to seek justice a fine justice the process itself becomes by michelin just as you just mentioned 2010. handful of operators of that industry of that union carbide plant got very minimal punishment and within hours they were left out on the general feeling that there wasn't enough punishment given about time to them absolutely absolutely not to the indian operators not to the union carbide. operators in the u.s. employees in the us are the chairperson the gent wasn't like us here but he mentioned union carbide we should just clarify it it's an american company this was
an indian subsidiary do you think enough international attention was given to the disaster when it happened absolutely it got a lot of attention. media attention has been sustained for the last 35 years so there is the not just of media international media attention in fact there are many of global organization that continue to fight for justice and they continue to . make donations in fact there is a clinic that is treating the survivors of the families that were affected even today so international tension has been there my need people's individual small donations have come in that sustains and activists have been honored but justice continues to elude them because people look bede we did this after decades people literally 95 percent of people got about $500.00
kids of that's how bad it was we've been looking at some of the images while you've been speaking. to think it's safe to say in the aftermath of that but even bearing that in mind do you think people at the time realized the scale of the disaster. i don't think so in fact when i conducted oral histories that many of the doctors who treated the patients at that time in the immediate aftermath of. the book to us about the attitude or to the clues of modern watch it was that we you know that came out of that was he in fact union carbide he thought that information from the medical fraternity was attending to the victims so they flounder and so many crucial information was not there they did not know how long. their belittling effects will last in fact lead to some classified documents retrieved by activists just in the last 5 years that show that the union carbide colluded with
the government of india to minimise the sure the impact and very little less so what they did it was about 94 percent of victims what they were placed under the cap to delete them clearly injuries so nobody had any clue that this is going to be intergenerational that there are 3 generations that are going just debilitating health impacts so nobody at that time and of course everybody could bring it down so that they had to be let's we have about 30 seconds left even very good with your time what would you like to see her in are are we going to get to for instance the 40 or $50.00 and we're going to be still talking about the same things do you think . it looks like that after a really you know a few years we think ok we can probably make some kind of some kind of. progress but in indian courts there's still
a good kid to petition dow chemical who's dead or once union carbide to be continues to in west and expand its investments in india there is an end one mental and criminal case against dow chemicals and in the court it continues to elude if they get those arrests so i i am very little hope that in 5 years again if we talk there won't be any difference ok well thank you very much for coming on the program and giving us a sense of the aftermath so many years on there rama curator of the remember bhopal we see delving beneath all across really the financial headlines next it's muxes only mexico and the kaiser report they didn't.
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quite quite quite amazingly they. you know history oh of financial markets analysis is filled with people who get the call right way too early and irving fish here may have been right that stock prices have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau of course he said that in 1929 right before they crashed into the bottom of the barrel but maybe you know had he waited around for another 80 years he would have been right so it's all about stock prices right hitting new all time highs all the time many times during the course of this year fuelling the trump phenomenon every time his opposition tries to attack him markets make a new all time high and of course everyone likes that look look at markets make new all time highs i like to watch football the weekends i like to watch baseball they like to see that would teams win you know it's all very basic winners and losers in
the markets winning and we're winning and it's a very simple message and they're making new all time highs and either that's an economic phenomena or there's something else going on and if you look at the statistics of the history and the trends it looks like it's trading at a phenomenally overextended level. 2 percent of g.d.p. and the stock market which is warren buffett's favorite metric to determine valuation overvaluation if you just for stock buybacks is trading for all time record price to earnings multiples right if you were to strip out the stock buybacks which up until recently were illegal even do a stock buyback so this looks like nosebleed territory but it's been this way now for a few years and there doesn't seem to be any stopped any any any any stop sign in the road it does seem to be any end to this for years i'd say all through the ninety's and the early 2000 most people in the market still had memories of or.