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>> how do people get involved in that peer mentoring. >> the social worker can make the request and the match is made and that peer usually follows you all the way from the beginning to the end and there's adjustments made if the fit isn't exactly right. they can apply to the public authority and if they are interested they can call ria and call us at the department of health. it would be great if we can get more peer mentors we like to have a broad array of folks to have good matches. thank you for that. >> staff. yes, car la? >> thank you for the chair. thank you so much for your presentation today you might have covered these points but i didn't quite grasp them how many people from laguna honda have left laguna honda since
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the agreement began and were you able to meet the settlement agreement number and see what is the plan moving forward now that the agreement time has concluded? will thereby there be the same level of commitment to this program as there was previously? >> to answer your question 2598 and currently enrolled in laguna honda because we start there and as of june 1463. >> it might be that you use the term enroll. >> it meant they met the criteria and if it's rehab it's not short-term. >> uh-huh, okay. >> in terms of of the commitment to the scattered site i think you are asking
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specifically. we did not have a demand for the 500 units that were originally proposed. every person that requested a scattered site unit was granted one. rather than say we're going to have a threshold number to meet we're really doing it based on need and appropriateness so there's a commitment from the city that we'll continue to provide the program. >> so 500 units. >> i think it was 270 that ended up actually being issued so far. >> any questions? >> that answered my question. thank you. >> john paul did you have a comment? >> one of the thing that kind of concerns me i heard programs
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for mental health and substance abuse how is the community reintegration population and the population coming out of laguna honda that will be discharged from the program how will that relate to the affordable care act especially since we have a january 1 deadline for applying? >> most of the people vast majority are medical eligible so most enrolled in medical so they will be able to select the h.m.o. that they will participate in and they get the same notification that anyone living in the community gets to decide which way they want to go. so that's accessible regardless of whether you have medical or not. so it's a service as needed.
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>> is there some support because everything we hear in the press it's still very challenging to apply for these services online but certainly there's other programs by the state but is it helping people bridge this? >> laguna honda has an eligibility unit so currently there's an eligibility unit that can actually help make sure somebody gets access to their entitlements while they are there. within the city as a whole the department has certified eligibility workers that have been designated to assist in doing applications for folks so the people that aren't connected can be hooked up with an enrollment person.
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>> thank you. >> councilmember zarda? >> thank you and thank you for your presentation it's very very important to the community. just to follow up on something you had mentioned rising rents that we're all experiencing in san francisco the ability to provide someone housing most likely will be decreasing in reference to how that relates to the 500 units originally demanded in that lawsuit how do you feel the number leftover will be impacted by the rising rents. >> i think it's going to be a matter of the pace of the demand for the scattered cite and it's possible that if the demand is not suddenly going to spike that we will probably be able to accommodate despite the fact that the rents are
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increasing. the a arra y of selection is going to shrink as time passes that will get more challenging. i think it's early to say whether or not we're going to have to scale back but right now we've been able to accommodate to the demand so it will definitely be something we'll keep an eye on over the year or two. so >> thank you very much. that would be great to have a follow up report to this in the coming year just because of the rent crisis i would say so thank
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you. >> yes. >> councilmember wong? >> about the increased rents and all this i know most of this program is more focussed on the san francisco county. with the county consider maybe going out of the county? i know it's probably difficult but rents in san mateo, east bay may be lower but i know it's very difficult to transition a resident of san francisco over there but maybe have to explore the possibility so that people can be discharged or at least be able to live in the community. >> it's a very good point and i don't think we would not
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entertain that as a possibility , no resident exiting laguna has requested to leave the county the majority are the reverse they would much prefer to stay. >> all right. we'll move onto public comment on this item. mr. shaw? >> thank you as you may know i used to work at laguna honda hospital secretary for a decade and when the justice department proposed this program i opposed it and i attended many long-term care counsel meetings excessing my frustrations with it they were ordered to cut 420
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beds from laguna honda and now we're hearing that there's only 98 placements what happened to the patients and they can't get skilled nursing care anywhere between eureka and bakersfield because there's no skilled nursing for long-term care. when i was the secret secret ary at laguna honda wrote a proposal when we wrote that proposal, short-term rehab was defined as ninety days. why was it cut to 30? could that explain why my friend was stuck in that for months? needing too much rehab because his
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rehab care went over 30-days? and he could have maybe been rehabbed to ninety and stayed in town and not be dumped out of county to antioc h. if thereof there have only been so many people taking advantage of this program in a 5 year period that means it's had a miserable rate of success. to these voucher programs? i have repeat ly tried to get daas the long-term care coordinating counsel to admit where are they being diverted to? is it to board and care in town board
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and care out of town? i strenuous ly object to roland, wong's creative suggestion to save rent money by dumping people out of county when you do that you diss enfranchise san franciscans from their native city why aren't you asking how many people have been dumped out of county? they won't give me the data, will they give it to you? i need to go to supervisor campos and have him hold another hearing to find out what's happening to the seniors that can't get into laguna honda. don't you care whether we're being dumped out of county? >> thank you mr. shaw any other
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public comment on this item. okay public comment items not on today's agenda we will limit you to one minute. strict limit. >> this is not on the previous agenda. this is on what i believe should be on one of your future agendas that you absolutely request that decip provide you with summary level data on discharge locations and begin reporting on the number of out of county discharges. i have begged the about the period department of public health to start making laguna honda staff in the program report the discharge locations.
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is it board and care? is it to the street? is it out of county? this body needs to take an interest in it and quickly. >> thank you sir. >> item number 14 correspondence. there is no correspondence. >> item number 15. announcements. any announcements? councilmember kostanian. >> i would like to answer. possibly in january i'd like to have a meeting on the census for hospital dial ysis patients. >> absolutely i'm fully aware of the staff who operate the
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renal center at sfgh are extremely concerned about this and should this counsel hold a hearing i'd venture to guess probably the same group of passionate dedicated citizens who showed up at david cam pos's hearing would show up here also hoping to change the world for dial ysis patients so they don't have to start transporting to oakland to get dial ysis you need to focus on this issue you need to ask lhh why they never got around when somebody in the assembly got state law changed to permit having dial ysis centers in
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skilled nursing facility. >> we are out of time i'm sorry. >> this meeting is adjourned.
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>> hi. welcome to san francisco. stay safe and exploring how you can stay in your home safely after an earthquake. let's look at common earthquake myths. >> we are here at the urban center on mission street in san francisco. we have 3 guest today. we have david constructional engineer and bill harvey. i want to talk about urban myths. what do you
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think about earthquakes, can you tell if they are coming in advance? >> he's sleeping during those earthquakes? >> have you noticed him take any special? >> no. he sleeps right through them. there is no truth that i'm aware of with harvey that dogs are aware of an impending earthquake. >> you hear the myth all the time. suppose the dog helps you get up, is it going to help you do something >> i hear they are aware of small vibrations. but yes, i read extensively that dogs cannot realize earthquakes. >> today is a spectacular day in san francisco and sometimes people would say this is earthquake weather. is this earthquake weather? >> no. not that i have heard
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of. no such thing. >> there is no such thing. >> we are talking about the weather in a daily or weekly cycle. there is no relationship. i have heard it's hot or cold weather or rain. i'm not sure which is the myth. >> how about time of day? >> yes. it happens when it's least convenient. when it happens people say we were lucky and when they don't. it's terrible timing. it's never a good time for an earthquake. >> but we are going to have one. >> how about the ground swallowing people into the ground? >> like the earth that collapsed? it's not like the
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tv shows. >> the earth does move and it bumps up and you get a ground fracture but it's not something that opens up and sucks you up into haddes. >> it's not going anywhere. we are going to have a lot of damage, but this myth that california is going to the ocean is not real. >> southern california is moving north. it's coming up from the south to the north. >> you would have to invest the million year cycle, not weeks or years. maybe millions of years from now, part of los angeles will be in the bay area. >> for better or worse.
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>> yes. >> this is a tough question. >> those other ones weren't tough. >> this is a really easy challenge. are the smaller ones less stress? >> yes. the amount released in small earthquakes is that they are so small in you need many of those. >> i think would you probably have to have maybe hundreds of magnitude earthquakes of 4.7. >> so small earthquakes are not making our lives better in the future? >> not anyway that you can count on. >> i have heard that buildings in san francisco are on rollers and isolated? >> it's not true. it's a
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conventional foundation like almost all the circumstances buildings in san francisco. >> the trans-america was built way before. it's a pretty conventional foundation design. >> i have heard about this thing called the triangle of life and up you are supposed to go to the edge of your bed to save yourself. is there anything of value to that ? >> yes, if you are in your room. you should drop, cover and hold onto something. if you are in school, same thing, kitchen same thing. if you happen to be in your bed, and you rollover your bed, it's not a bad place to be. >> the reality is when we have a major earthquake the ground shaking so pronounced that you are not going to be able to get
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up and go anywhere. you are pretty much staying where you are when that earthquake hits. you are not going to be able to stand up and run with gravity. >> you want to get under the door frame but you are not moving to great distances. >> where can i buy a richter scale? >> mr. richter is selling it. we are going to put a plug in for cold hardware. they are not available. it's a rather complex. >> in fact we don't even use the richter scale anymore. we use a moment magnitude. the richter scale was early technology. >> probably a myth that i hear most often is my building is just fine in the loma prieta earthquake so everything is fine. is that true ?
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>> loma prieta was different. the ground acceleration here was quite moderate and the duration was moderate. so anyone that believes they survived a big earthquake and their building has been tested is sadly mistaken. >> we are planning for the bigger earthquake closer to san francisco and a fault totally independent. >> much stronger than the loma prieta earthquake. >> so people who were here in '89 they should say 3 times as strong and twice as long and that will give them more of an occasion of the earthquake we would have. 10 percent isn't
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really the threshold of damage. when you triple it you cross that line. it's much more damage in earthquake. >> i want to thank you, harvey, thanks pat for >> i tried to think about this room as the dream room, where we dream and bring some of those dreams to life. i feel very blessed that i have been able to spend the last 31 years of my life doing it my way, thinking about things better interesting to me, and then pursuing them. there are a lot of different artists that come here to work, mostly doing aerial work. kindred spirits, so to speak. there is a circus company that i have been fortunate enough to work with the last couple of
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years. i use elements of dance and choreography and combine that with theater techniques. a lot of the work is content- based, has a strong narrative. the dancers have more of a theatrical feel. i think we are best known for our specific work. in the last 15 years, spending a lot of time focusing on issues that affect us and are related to the african-american experience, here in the united states. i had heard of marcus shelby and had been in join his work but never had the opportunity to meet him. we were brought together by the equal justice society specifically for this project. we were charged with beginning work.
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marquez and i spent a lot of time addressing our own position on the death penalty, our experiences with people who had been incarcerated, family members, friends of friends. pulling our information. beyond that, we did our own research. to create a picture that resonated with humanity. it is the shape of a house. in this context, it is also small and acts like a cell. i thought that was an interesting play on how these people make these adjustments, half to create home. what is home for these people? the home is their cell.
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people talk a lot about noise -- very noisy in prisons. that is interesting to me. looking at the communication level, the rise of frustration of being caged, wondering, where does redemption fit into the equation here? [singing] i think both of us really believe the death penalty is wrong, and is flawed for many reasons. the list is as long as my arm -- about several others.
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we feel this is important for both of us, personally, to participate in the debate of this issue in a way that we can help people frame it for a conversation.
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>> can we please rise for the pledge, and if you could turn off your electronic equipment because it will interfere with the equipment in the room, thank you. >> mr. president, would i like to call the roll. >> please do. >> president mazzucco? >> present. >> vice president turman? >> here. >> commissioner marshall? >> here. >> commissioner dejesus. is excused. >> commissioner chan? >> present. >> commissioner kingsley. >> she is here. >> present. >> commissioner loftus? >> here. >> president mazzucco we have a quorum and also, with us th

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