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there. that's tenderloin, right? >> the proposed tenderloin. >> to van ness right? >> this is the proposed. that's currently proposed. >> that represents sort of the 4 public feedback options that we heard and really the conscious the the concentration of many of the requests. moving to the next slide two other options came up through public feedback the first is the yellow area which represents a move south of the southern district to to mariposa a couple of blocks south we heard a lot of feedback on that option and
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and related to the homeless encampments underneath the 101 and whether that particular area especially where the the 101 and the spur meet at the north end whether that would stay with the mission district or whether it would go to the southern or the bayview. >> other questions about that? again, this is the time to discuss and get it all -- >> did portrero want the purple part or not? >> so the yellow part seemed to be there was a lot of consensus and the purple part wasn't gag to to be that big so we'll have to go back and ask them i believe they just wanted it to be part of the bayview. so that one we'll have to talk to
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-- i can't -- i could figure it out but i just can't see it. >> they didn't want it to go all the way to potrero i thought they wanted it to go to utah. >> these are the members from the potrero hill area and that's why we're here again to make sure that we're all on the same page. to keep that section in the bayview as opposed to being at mission station. >> i think it was a very very small area like just mariposa -- it's it's really only like a couple of blocks. the very bottom right-hand corner of
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that map -- utah and mariposa which would adjoin the bayview district. >> putting a cross on mariposa okay. >> just taking it to utah. >> only as far west as utah? >> yes, it's literally only 1 block. >> i guessed right. that's what i heard at the last community meeting. >> i'm just going to read the letter we did get a letter to confirm from jr, eppler the area boundeded by highway 101, potrero and 16th street. as evidence by several commentators at the meeting --
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i think the issue in this letter which i know you used -- the discussion is pretty broad around 16th and 18th and potrero and that's a good catch we want to to make sure we get that right. this area is part of the hill it says except for its policing so they really want to be part of bayview station which, i think is a testament. chief is going off script now and he's approached the television. >> so you need to come back to your microphone because i think you probably shared some pearls of wisdom that could not be heard. >> per the letter the yellow line would just continue straight across that's what
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they are talking about. i don't know how you would make that part of the bayview so we'll leave that to the consultant. >> any other questions on this data request? it seems that there's some narrowing that we have to do there and maybe follow up with the president and captain o'sullivan go ahead. >> and so moving to the last area that we heard come up, would impact the park and the richmond districts and as you can see the blue line again this was the proposed cuts across on geary to the north and south on masonic and one of the ideas that we heard was to move in a yellow -- excuse me, the gray box into the park district as well and so it would continue further west on geary and then south on
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stanyon. the gray box to the left would be added to park. >> and so this was an e-mail that we received from tim hickey rather who is the north of pan handle neighborhood board president and the desire is to keep the neighborhood together and keep it in the park station and not be divided so that was the desire of the park station, the folks that represent that neighborhood at the sea pab. >> any questions about this one? this is an i think a community initiated request that i think the department
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then also is thinking about given that what makes the most sense and so you see that change. and again, this is just so that we can get the data on what that change would be. yeah. >> go ahead. >> and so that takes us through the maps. in terms of the continuing timeline obviously we have reached the 90-day term limits of the public comment period but we would then want to take back very specific requests to our consultant who could then run the numbers on the data points and in addition to that if there's any particular other data point we may not have it we may have it and be able to get it but it would be something that we would need to make the request of them now so they could start working on it. >> so what i think i hear you saying is requesting of all of
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us to really reach out to our community members look into our e-mails and pass along now because we're in the position to make the best decision and i'll make a note i see here the special meeting no redistricting discussion i imagine there there will be redistricting discussion and i think our shared goal is to have a process that allows us to move forward and get decisions made but i'm sure there will be some feedback there and we're certainly not in a position to prohibit that so we will not have a meeting on april fool's day which i think is advisable and we'll come back and hear from the consultant who will be flying in from boston is the data and what the data tells us about the potential the potential impact on calls for service and the main points and we'll be able to have a discussion of
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maybe one or two maps that we could look at at that time. is that right? >> correct and again just wanted to stress the more line changes that there are the more complexity and possibilities that there are. >> and that's why we're front-ending this conversation but want to make sure everybody is clear and aware of the process. >> and then finally? >> i'm not taking questions yet. >> and then finally the the april 15th the third wednesday which we would not normally be in session but we will be here on april 15th and vote on the final -- it will take 30 to 45 days to actually redraw the lines and make them effective and given what we're learning about southern station being online and the move to the new public safety building i think that's a timeline we want to stick to. i'm sorry i think
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you have a question? i would ask now from my colleagues if there's any feedback or additional issues or data points that you have not heard about tonight? >> do we need a vote to change the dates of the meeting? >> i don't believe we do. no? okay. questions, colleagues? no? commissioner hwang? >> let me ask you this -- is the 15th in stone? i'm just saying that what happens to the third wednesday and those planned things. >> let me do a quorum check. >> i'm just wondering if it's possible to --
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>> let me just see -- malumed >> do you have anything. >> so noted for the record. >> vice president turman ? >> i i can't be here. >> you you can't be here on the 15th. . >> dejes u.s. >> i i can be here. >> commissioner hwang. >> i can. >> it looks like we would have a quorum on that night and we can take the conversation offline. oh, commissioner hwang. >> i think that these under the slide for potential line change areas i think this does reflect all the changes that we've heard from the community i don't remember the discussion
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on park and richmond i don't know if it came in the form of a letter. >> it came through e-mail. >> i'm just trying to gauge -- how many folks the one concern i had -- i do recall, i know the west field mall is a hot potato and nobody wants this and they were very strongly against having it there and southern came and said we don't want it but we'll take it if we have to take it and i remember walking away feeling that they were very accommodating of the west field mall but i don't recall discussing putting it into central and they probably would have -- we didn't go to them i think because we didn't think the line changes would impact central that much. >> so i will note that we sent out specific communications to all the stations and all the captains about this process and do not fool yourself the
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captains are paying very close attention and we did send out that communication and i think there's a natural border of west field mall right there in in central and chief i don't know if you want to speak on that. >> the central was going to be impacted because they were going to get market street west of third street and that was going to happen regardless and there's been some discussion, we had a big meeting that day because retail theft is up quite a bit and a lot of the conversations that west field mall was present at was that that's one group, their camera and security issues are the same west field has many of the retailers that associate themselves in the same
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conversation with powell street and union square and if the commission decides this is a better fit and certainly bumping out the tender er loin west to van ness maybe you give up a little a little something on the south to make it fit and it would flow better for the policing they would still get those beat officers and they would then have more of the entire retail community. >> i don't know if i disagree with the ultimate solution but given this is such a big football and heard a lot from tenderloin and southern about it i'm a little concerned that potential plan you know maybe wasn't put out to the central folks so that they might have turned out in force to speak out against it as well. >> the other big issue the reasons nobody wants this place is because they think it eats a lot of resources so the
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question is is there any discussion about the businesses taking more responsibility for the cost of the policing? >> well, again, short of in annexing the west field mall much like vatican city -- [laughter] as i said central folks were welcome at either the southern meeting or tenderloin meeting. again, there there will be still be discussions this is going to be still on television and there's going to be ongoing discussions and there's largely no residential there it's pretty much all commercial that we're talking about so i can't
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make them do something privately i mean we still have to police the west field mall right now it has police officers and again, as we said in all of our meetings this is just a question of who the officers report to. >> do you know if captain lazar has had a conversation of west field become part of central station? >> i don't. >> so maybe -- we have gotten feedback from other stations where a meeting wasn't held in their district and we can talk about some potential solutions there because i think in all of these conversations around procedural justice it's part of the process you go through and it is worthwhile to make sure
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we sit down and be sure we understand this and folks are welcome to e-mail us. >> i actually was going to bring that up that's one of the big changes that's proposed. >> okay colleagues? any other last thoughts questions? now we have time we've got sometime before we're talking about this again, so we'll be back on on the 8th with more data and really appreciate all the hard work of of the controller's office. appreciate your time and attention. >> thank you. >> thank you so much. >> commissioner hwang would like to give you deputy commissioner badges i'm not sure that's lawful. >> [laughter] thank you so much and for your commitment to
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getting this right. >> please call the next line item. >> commission announcements and scheduling of items identified for consideration at future commission meetings. pretty much covered the community meeting. . >> the chief is going to present the data he has on raise and policing and that will be great the sooner the better. commissioner malara. >> yeah i was asked by beverly apton to follow up on the general orders and implementation. >> absolutely. >> she requested april i said i'd bring it up here and see. >> we will put that on the docket too and see what would be a good night for that. >> i have a question which may or may not be an agenda item can i talk? they are talking
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about sting ray on the knews to capture people's cell phones and the question i have do we have something like that? >> we have a non disclosure agreement there's a regional asset that we had access to. >> past tense? >> yeah. via a search warrant or court order we could gain access to such a device but the department is in the process right now of insuring that we ourselves are not the proprietor of a sting ray. >> maybe we should agendize that and should thereby policy restraints that should be put on that etc. etc.
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>> yeah surveillance and civil liberty and we should agendize. >> okay. >> that's that's what i that's what i suggest. >> colleagues anything further? please call the next line item. >> public comment. >> okay. public comment. >> hi i'm awake now and i've heard a lot of great things tonight and first of all there's a book at the library and in january and of course it got stolen friday night and i'm looking forward to getting my
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books back and also i've engaged in a, men's progress program over at glide and it's it's it's 52 weeks. that's a year. so i'm going to be learning a lot about violence and men not to violate themselves their children and family and their neighborhoods and also my teachers left who teached me computers and i'll be twittering you and facebooking you because i can i can do that now. >> awesome. >> i thought i should say that now because i'm here and i'm also interested in the president and national crime and justice and civil oversight task force i think that's very important because a lot of people want to be involved in
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making this a better community and so i am going to the green i was always told the irish started the police that's where we got patty wagons from. >> that hurts juicy. >> i want to end out with the president. we may not get there in in 1 year or even in one term but america i have never been more hopeful that i am tonight that we will get there i promise you we as a people will get there. we can not have a thriving wall street while main street suffers. end of tape. thank you. >> is there any further public comment? hearing none public
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comment is now closed. >> please call the next line item. >> line item 6. closed session including public comment on a vote on whether to hold item 8 in closed session. >> members we will be holding a number of matters in closed session for various matters of confidentiality. public comment is now closed. please call the next line item. >> colleagues do i have a motion? >> i move to go into closed session. >> all those in favor, we're back in open session
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president loftus >> thank you inspector. inspector please call the next line item. >> line item 9 vote to whether to disclose from 8 a to g held in closed session 67.12-a action. >> colleagues do i have a motion to not disclose. >> i move not to disclose. >> i second. . >> all in favor. >> all opposed? motion passed. inspector please call the next line item. >> motion to adjourn. >> motion passed. thank you everyone. we are out of session. >>
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(clapping.) >> well, everyone this is a great time today to raise our rich flag in celebration i want to say thank you to the consul general granite for not only being here but part of the great celebration between san francisco and ireland i obviously am thrilled to have our core sister city and remember the floeshz time i had being or being think grand mary in the city that's where i met the people wonderful people and again, thank you to mark naerl
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for his leadership in being the rock on our board of supervisors so with that, i'll be ready to raise the flag ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> what a day, huh? >> you do it with such eloquence (clapping.) okay, here we go. >> now we're going to be led out to the - ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ in >> okay top of the morning to
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you. >> going to say it back to me. >> sure. >> good morning. i see all the wonderful faces out here bring back great memories we're going to talk about and some not tell you; right? because 2 hundred irish americans on our first trip to ireland this was 31 years ago let's here it for cork (clapping) you you know irish have been making history in san francisco for many, many years the first irish americans that came here in the 17 century early 18th century came here they came here and bought los angeles police department from the mexican grant and came here for the salary man and the gold rush and
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left their stamp and still doing that if you go around san francisco you see caesar new and over and over feral and pave. >> so you've been macro history the o showncy dam we have a lot of mayors that were irish the first john geary irish and you know what our mayor is still making history everyday and our mayor was in cork and the grand mary of the st. patrick's day prayed in cork (clapping.) i don't know how many people have a river named after them in ireland but the lee river so this is our mayor ed on the other hand lee.
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>> (laughter). >> o insuring thank you for being the best protocol over in the city of san francisco yes (clapping.) well, everyone thank you and welcome to ore woemz the san francisco budget & finance committee our own city hall a warm welcome to you that raised the irish flag proudly (clapping.) i want to just give a personal thanks to our consul general from ireland 39 six phillip grant thank you for all you do to strengthen the economic of people ties between our city and, of course, the country of ireland we join the united irish society in kicking off the city's st. patrick's day
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celebration it is the one hundred and 64 mini anniversary of our celebration what a wonderful, wonderful time thank you, again to liam frost the united irish society thank you for being here (clapping) and thank you for you and certainly thank you to kevin by reason ham the past president of the society for carrying on this legacy yes (clapping.) all right. and then we're also charlotte said we're celebrating our cork anniversary of the celebration so the names of jim, john again from our city committee thank you very much for your wonderful historic work (clapping.) and as charlotte said earlier i enjoyed myself on

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