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terrorize public speaker: hi, i recognize you. i definitely recognize suzy >> ladies and gentlemen, the loftus. i remember you all sitting there chair has like you called the meeting to order. didn't understand what happened and you didn't know if maybe he had please turn off your electronic stolen somebody's bike. the dude devices as they interfere with the equipment in getting his bike stolen t dude disappeared. the room. please rise for the pledge of the same thing with mario wood. that allegiance. dude disappeared and i also remember you where we said we don't want police. >> i pledge allegiance to the you returned shane evans flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. >> president, loftus, i would mother, you like to sat there and your pace turned call roll.
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red. you let these people kill us. >> commission president loftus, you hired all of these [bleep] people. commission president turman, you tell them he didn't of wifi commission marshall, commissioner dejesus, at the commissioner hwang is excused, fire houses. you sit there and demand more cops. did you know that sfpd want drones even though they were banned from commissioner mazzucco, commissioner melara. and with us is greg chief suhr getting drones several years ago and you sit there again acting like you are so sad. and office of complaint joyce don't look at my face acting hicks. >> thank you, i would like to like you welcome everyone to our meeting give a [bleep] what i'm saying. tonight. we have an incredible crowd of you people who have come to the commission don't give a [bleep]. tonight. we want to hear your thoughts and feelings. we want to hear you all put that money in the community to kill us. don't act like he everyone. in didn't the north light court, there die in his neighborhood and building that he was getting evicted are other people who want to be heard. the sheriff's department is going to be from for coordinating that process. i $3400 a month. want to let you know that it is my goal that we mario would die on the streets.
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get to hear from everyone. it will take all of our participation to get to do that. based on the number of people genetic facing -- and the long agenda that we have, it will be 2 minutes per person. byway for gentrification is violence. you killed us with folks who don't normally come to the your actions. police commission. we will go over our agenda. you probably have noted that there is an item on discussion for use of force. we will have that discussion and we'll have the opportunity to hear public speaker: because i am public comment. white, everyday i'm able to go out in it is important that we the streets and be a bad bad man. actually get a chance to hear from everyone. i can do whatever [bleep] i please call the first line item. want. because i'm white because i'm item 1. going to say [bleep] [bleep]. consent calendar. sf ptsd/occ document protocol
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quarterly i'm here to talk to you because report 3 quarter 2015. status report on general orders i'm white. i smoke a blitz outside. policy proposals third quarter 2015, request you don't care. of the chief of please to white boy. i'm one of these people. all accept donation of $300 to go towards right. my name is is jacob and i grew the central station as youth up in engagement maryland. i'm new here. i traveled and i program. >> can i have a motion? saw all >> motion and second. sorts of shit from baltimore. >> all in favor say, "aye". i'm from >> aye. >> any opposed? next item. bayview. now, listen up, usually when people are sad, they don't do anything. they just general public comment. cry over their condition, but city clerk: the public snout when they get angry, they bring about welcome to address the commission change. regarding items that do not appear on tonight's nobody can give you freedom or agenda but that are within the subject equality or justice. if you are a man matter jurisdiction of the commission. take it. truth is on the side of the speakers shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and oppressed. you can't separate peace from not to
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individual commissioners or department freedom. be peaceful, be courteous. or occ personnel. under police commission rules of order, obey the law. respect everyone during public comment, neither police or occ but if someone puts a hand on you, personnel, nor commissioners are required to respond to questions presented by the public, but may respect the provide a brief response. you have 2 minutes. cemetery. if you join the people outside, you are going to lose public speaker: good evening, this is your an inquiry for the purpose of job. maybe your grandkids would want to sit on your lap 1 day because determining the appropriate time to they raise issues regarding alex don't right now. all of you are going to burn in nieto, mario woods and the whole lot whatever figurative hell you of other people who have been affected are going to burn in. by the police killings here in san the dirt you would make would francisco not bring flowers to life. can that be raised at another time. >> general public comment. go ahead. public speaker: good evening, commissioners, i believe the time needs
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to start now. public speaker: >> please start the time now. proceed. hello, i sat for 2 hours just >> good evening, commissioners, good evening chief, good evening to the now just people of san francisco. watching live stream, you greg suhr have not changed your facial martin del campo, executive expression committee once on tv. san francisco labor council. i rise for all of you have sat here just the purpose of exercising constitutional rights regarding looking the bored, bored. you guys are getting paid for this right now. my community is right here airing of grievances. behind me. my 12-year-old sister i chose the place because there is not another place to do so. the recent killings have to be placed in is scared. she is scared of me the just context. the context is what has been leaving the house just now to happening come and on the issue of police killings speak because she thinks that i can be at the board of supervisors, at the mayor's, the next person. at the dcc, the failure of greg suhr, i remember you came leadership to my and why any discussion tonight high school when you said we that is not adequate is just not can be getting to the officers that we are in the problem. community to serve.
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i submit that the problem is community, like mario woods, alex nieto that are now gone. clear, we have a problem with the laws they are gone. do you know how much that that are hurts? they are gone. they are people just like me, so broadly established that permit the brown skin. you will never understand that use of weapons inexcessively. because you are white. you are white. and before i never hated the and that's the first thing that any commission needs to do. cops. i had so much love for cops. the second biggest problem we before i have is was exposed to all of this, all the culture of the police department and that must be addressed. of this racism, all of this police the basis of my statement is brutality. i have grown up in my life seeing the following. what we have is a police more association that bullies the board of death and negativity about cops. supervisors. it's a matter of public record my sister is in that line. she that says that the board of supervisors knows can't talk about alex nieto more negativity about cops. is this which now results in the anger that we what you really want our next generation to hate cops? witness outside. so i don't appeal, i air on the
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grievances that this discussion so little so late is inadequate and in public speaker: i'm here today insult. because i have an 18-year-old son. i grew up in san francisco. i'm scared to let my son walk the streets. i really am. it's a shame. i'm actually sending my son back to college if we can close to dear to -- because i don't want my son here. door to if something happens to my son hear the speakers. good it's going to kill me. i have friends that evening, mr. are police officers. there are washington. good public speaker: unfortunately we are police officers out here. here today, not only san what i can't understand and my francisco, you cousin made a very good point the see people all over the country, they other night. you don't need training to have are going to shine on san francisco like never before. god works in mysterious ways. morals. i'm not pointing the finger at i have stood in front of people with guns before trying to kill anybody. people. i i have known the chief for many have stood in front of police pointing the gun at me before because i'm out in years, i have known the mayor. i'm not the community trying to do something here to and trying to help everybody impress bushth to impress on
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you all and the country and the world out. we have to come up with some type to know, we in san francisco, are in a of resolution for everyone. we black state of emergency. have all we have been for a number of seen what slavery does. someone years. i'm the only african american media person out with the migration. there is a few people there. let me go on. said ptsd. we all have it. you've got because of a tape that fred blackwell turned over to the human rights kids, i have kids. i'm trying to help other kids get it together and help them get to school and get jobs. commission on why blacks were this does not look good for leaving and one was the relationship of the police department. san now, that's not only here in francisco. you have good people on the san francisco. it's all over. force. we need good people that are going to come out to the all over the world. so the thing about it is, i'm community and get out sidewalk with us and thinking and hoping and praying come talk to us and listen to what we have to say. i care about your kids throughout this like i care process we can have a real sit about mine. i care about everybody's child. down and dp we talk about policing. can't get on this platform where we are i'm out stuck in the migration putting this first, then this trying to put the black people whole city is going to burn in hell.
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together. i have a task that is unreal. >> jermaine, come back here. only god can lead me. i don't need your permission. i'm on a mission. i have to get my black community leaders >> i will talk to you. together. with i love you. guided leadership, failed we are going to turn this efforts and undermining our community that around. we love you, man. could be tolerated from this point out. my name is ace and i'm on this case. i hope you know chief and i hope we can public speaker: i don't know talk about what that police relationships after the was, joe marshall. it was my smoke clears. >> thank you, mr. washington. turn. i go by equip. i lived in san >> you're welcome. public speaker: good evening. you know something, you all have blood francisco and i witnessed a lot of on your hands, everyone of you police brutality. it's time for justice with alex commission. how many times did we talk nieto and mario woods. about him. i stood out there with greg i would texting my friend he said chief suhr and talked about the taser and suhr is
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a good guy. he would sit with taser. we might give it to you but you have to have a defibrillators with you my grandpa. i'm hoping that's real. it's not too late to change. and cpr even if you step down, you on techniques. we have a young man that is the side dead right and listen, if you step down now. had those officers had a taser, especially and talk with the people and he would be here. he might be doing some time for understand it you work for a corrupt organization. another stabbing. it's on your hands that's the bottom line. i feel the good cop because we many don't know the people personally. you might be blame greg suhr, d. a., it's a good person. but you have no compassion in you people. your heart if you understand what's you have to own up for what you going on did. i hope it feels good. and want to understand the people. you might have worked hard to get to that position but it nothing different than public speaker: good evening. what people are going through right i don't have a long now. i know you can relate. conversation. i came today. i went to the just like mario woods needed help. community meeting. that's all he needed. he didn't you are -- you know i have need to get shot up like that 25 times. it's watched this movie where black people never too late. you can sfep are killed all the time all over down man
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with the people and walk with us, this country. brother. you really could. my question is and i know chief it would make a world of suhr. i'm not going to say i don't difference, but until then you should be like him. if we are going to change -- ashamed of yourselves. anyway, my question is what are you going public speaker: any -- my to do about this? all of this talk. name is max we are and i was born and raised in not getting anything done. i san want to know if there is anything going to be done. otherwise we are wasting francisco. i myself have experienced our time. there is not being done about police brutality with the police the department and how i know the system others. i was a young man when they doesn't work is because there are people i killed a black man, shot him in the back grew up with in this city who have without a cause. become police officers and these are there is nothing to the police not the kind of people i want to be officer. police now we have another case. officers. not to say all police officers the killing, a black man are bad. i mean just like humanity, shooting him there is 26 times and now we all up in good people and bad people everywhere. but the thing is, the police arms about it like it's something need to be new and held to a higher standard. you
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look at what just happened in chicago and all over this country. i want to know in san francisco know. they carry guns. they are here to protect and what serve the are you going to do about this in what public. they really need, there are you going to do about it. needs if you are going to do to be a hiring process to something, chief, tell us what it is. screen the i mean what can anyone in this psychological backgrounds of room say the people that can change it. you can't who apply and somehow feel like change determine what their morality the circumstances. so i say to the board and i say is. i know a lot of police officers. to all a lot of people i grew up with of you if you are not going to are on do anything about it, it's just a the force now and these are not people i trust to be police officers rerun with treadmilling. if that's all it is, i'm going and people i trust to be policing home my community. because it don't make sense to a lot of these people are be with this. we are going to beat up on the chief and get another chief naive, uneducated, racist and these that is a member of the klu klux klan. are not >> thank you, sir. the people, sexist, >> thank you, sir, thank you for your misogynistic and these are different people who comments. are hiring people. there needs to be a screening process where we hold thank you, sir.
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>> so we can provide a brief people to a higher standard. it's just response and given those questions, i ridiculous. want to indicate that based on the agenda tonight the chief is going over the steps that this department has taken and this commission is going to begin the discussion of dgo on the public speaker: good evening. use of force. >> wouldn't it make sense to my name is paula robles. stop call a meeting with all of us to say, killing people. in the same week i was look, we decided to do this about it. so in two this protest and funeral for a woman ain't nothing but a charade. killed in the mission and for mario woods. stop killing our pe?ñle. i in the black people get killed every tepid -- tenderloin in the hour. this is nothing but madness. i think there is a proper person to ask communities. instead of paying you guys, you, commissioners, to ask the chief with should use the must -- money in a what you are going to do. better way. we need your support. >> thank you. i don't think we need you. next speaker.
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public speaker: i actually had left and was i have been here. i felt enough had been said and public speaker: bishop king. i know enough great things have been we witnessed an assassination, said, but a hate like everybody else, i'm so crime and straight up murder many i affected by think the law already speaks to this and because i see it as so what we unnecessary. do to murderers. i have to say something just so we arrest them and convict them i can and send them to prison. live with myself. chief suhr is being demanded of i have got a boy 26, not much this community to step down in a noble way different without putting pressure on the than mario woods. maybe in some ways. maybe he's mayor had a with his own problems. there is better way to go, but i know in no certain situations because i have been justification in sight that we need to see this man needed to be -- i'm 72 and i have been black all my executed. 10-12 officers can't talk a man to put 72, i a knife down. think. because of that i know my son
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has suffered the same end and he's a good 10-12 officers that couldn't dude. he's a goodman. but i know how it works. talk this person to put a knife down. i have been in the military. we don't want to talk about i have played ball all my life tasers and and i know the police and the jock shields. what has happened has to be answered in mentality. the reality is chief and a forthright way. if the chief continues to members that defend the in 2015, if the only way that right to murder and kill and we can slaughter with people on the street under deal with someone who is his command, then he becomes the unresponsive to commands, who knows why. being unresponsive should not coconspirator to murder. result in anybody else here in this a death sentence. the only way commission that is going to justify, that we can deal with someone whose defend, murderers on the street then posture is benign. his poster was benign. you are contributing to that. as the african american it was his posture was not relation board threatening. the knife may have been considered a we have policies that will deal threat but it was not an with this kind of stuff, but the imminent threat of danger. if the only administration before you thought that we needed to disengage them. i way in 2015 we can deal with that is
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would ask the question where is your through death and then 16-25 shots. if you are stopping the personally hand picked advisory board so-called threat when he's shot and hits and what did this do to factor the ground he's no longer a threat. in to why would you keep shooting. keep this racial thing from hold on. happening. don't take my time. except and >> understand we are a policy board. this is why we've been talking about understanding that we are a sensitivity training not by policy board, what does the african police trainers but by people who do american community relations board that that for a living because the only you say represent, what do you want to reason you would do that is because you do see us do? >> we would like you to move not recognize that young man's with your full power recommendation of humanity. even when i break the law, i'm the chief to step down in a very noble still a way. we would like those officers that human being and i still deserve passion are on and compassion, man. that's the leave that they be suspended of only way we are going to change this pay and culture. i say this on the cops behalf. to take away that whole idea that if you want a vacation all you don't get so carried away have to do because even is kill a black man and go on when we dealt with those police administrative leave. text, if you dealt with every we want their pay suspended and department in the city, you would find the
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we also want to see them arrested. if same text you don't except the cops have gone and have that power, we would ask operate under the color of authority this board to recommend to the chief that he because have or the d. a. have those black people are marginalized in this men -- town. god knows we shouldn't have to arrested and booked for murder. come we here again for this. would also like to see the thank you. videos from the case on third street. public speaker: i grew up in the deep south. in that deep south i saw kenneth hardy videos that's been held a lot of things i didn't like. i went to college and ended up here in hostage need to be released thinking it was better and it was better so we for me. can see what happened on third but in all honesty it was never street hard for me. when that young man was killed. we but i will tell you this, it would also like this commission to entertain the reengaging the african affected my father. american police community my father is african american. relations board. not an advisory board, but a he's afraid to come to this
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city. he relationship with the police lives in louisiana. department as a bridge from the community you may believe chief that in to the police department. >> thank you, bishop king. holding that position and not doing the right we are going to change the mic thing by the victim, you are out. it looks like there is some complicit in his murder and it breaks my heart. i technical now fear that because of your difficulties. police force on this television knows that i'm black that i'm no longer safe. i see you looking at me, sir, but do you hear me? so i'm asking you. i'm not asking, i'm not demanding that you be fired. i'm asking that you do the right thing and stop people and start demanding to be fired. i'm >> i believe there is a asking this technical issue. is the volume all the way up. commission to realize that after all the grief and heartache and loss of life, that what you have done in the past it's not doing anything and not healing anything. subpoenas as
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much as -- you demand a quorum, mr. mazzucco, if you don't do the right thing now you are no better than than the cops in mississippi and the cops in selma. public speaker: good evening, president. my name is linda maldonado and i'm part of the harvey milk club executive board. i'm not very good with public speaking but once i saw >> chairman, susan loftus. mario woods video, i was triggered to all the commissioners, chief personally to come out here and speak. i went about 5 years ago i was
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suhr, ladies and gentlemen, my name in the is brown, president of the san francisco branch standard post police academy of the national association for the advancement of colored people and i, you and i know i went to the training. have been pastor at baptist i was at the top of my class church for and just my experience is there with the 40 years. i rose to say join higher, the people that were in the academy themselves were not people i would ever want on the police force. i russel says would say about maybe 30% were good people and , wants to every man and nation the rest had several types of biases whether it be sexist or comes a moment to decide in the strife classist or racist. and there was an incident in of truth which we were talking about police and falsehood for the good are tactics and there was a specific video that had a guy that was hunched over and evil side. my friends tonight should be for this commission and this entire surrounded by police officers about 15 city. of them of all sides and he was not a time to debate, but a hunched over and essentially the guy
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time to decide to do the right thing. showed what was a flip flop and then that right thing might be for bullets came out from everywhere. you to respectfully consider is no. 1. when i saw that video i couldn't be a part of that system. although i graduated at the top of my follow the program. class. i can't be complicit in that that naacp presented to you over a year system and i don't know how you guys can ago, and unfortunately has not even sit there and say that tactically been acted on. didn't even follow through on that is the right thing to do. the admonition. just do it. you could have secured the scene, you what do you need to do? not to could have contained the scene in a different way. get seals when you have persons who next speaker. unfortunately don't have sense. public speaker: i was waiting the sense to know what to do. >> thank you, sir. for everybody to end. you know i have been coming here for 15 years
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>> with tasers. >> please let the next speaker talking about police accountability and reconstructing the san talk. >> reverend brown, i would like francisco police department. what we have to be clear of is to hear so sad that all the documents, all further your thoughts on this issue. the meetings in bayview hunters point begging this commission, as well as supervisors all the way throughout state of california we need to do something not only totally different. >> i would like to hear your but if we keep allowing this to happen, you are watching the city go up further comments on the three point in smoke. the people are angry. plan and and that's the bottom line. other discussion. >> three point plan on cultural the only way you can speak to relevancy training for all that anger is you have to do something historic. this is a no brainer cadets, and for all officers in this police chief suhr. this is not personally to you. department. resign, remove yourself. that is the
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best move to make. that would involve people not no. 1. no. 2, as a commission, let's just talking theoretically from just face it, the commission has to do way a left brain approach, but also better than this if you want the trust talking left of san brain right brain with persons francisco. i have been seeing for five from straight this community. years the department of justice needs to come into this city and help you guys because how can you help from history and the compassion yourself when you have political favors, to come we have scared to death supervisors, we to that academy and sit with have scared to death people who work in the mayor's office and people who the officers as was done during the cap late days of mayor willie brown and chief capitulate as -- reverends and pastors. c'mon you guys, if at the end sanders were leading this department. of the day people are warning you, you we did a great thing. we need don't want do see anarchy in this to put that back into action. let the people come so that these officers city and we haven't called for it yet, but will know that we are human. at a we are not a threat we are certain point an eye for an eye, if you god's children and they don't need to keep killing black people,
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be scared of us and we don't need white people are going to die in this city. to be scared of them when they show they have respect for our people. >> thank you, sir. no. 2, it was referenced earlier by our bishop king that we need not just respect we need to have to hear from the chief that our king mentioned earlier. not to be in the department or ego trip or power trip, but a board that has teeth that sits with the chief that communicates with this
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commission an we are acting on a crisis and we'll always move on a positive preventative measure. i plead with you all tonight. let us act like san francisco knows how to do it. we claim to be a liberal aggressive city. let us not live a lie. let us become truthful expressions of love, of justice, fair play, >> ma'am, you have already equality of opportunity and when we do spoken. >> if there is further public that, we comment will not have to come back here you can stand up over here. again to take up your time to say the same you only have one at some old thing that we have been saying for a long time. point. i'm enforcing rules.
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finally, just do it. so there is a representative make a vigorous effort to go across from the this country and recruit able officers citizen complaints that can talk to you. the deputy director can speak to you. thank you. confident >> next speaker, please? compassion persons who happen to be african americans, latinos, for god knows there are others in the land who should be given a fair chance when we do this, when we smile, we'll be able to embrace each other and we'll be able to say, look what we did for the betterment of our city and when we do that, no more blood will be spilled in this city, but we will have our young men in jobs, in school, at home, in their places of sacred worship
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living in people's conscious and goodwill. i thank you for your time. let's just do it. >> thank you, reverend brown. next speaker. good evening, ms. brown and welcome. >> my name is paula brown. >> i feel your suffering. i'm as i come here every wednesday with you and we've had enough. to the police commission concerning my i'm not even talking to them. son. i would like to use the i'm talking to you and the people overhead. this out there is my son. wherever the cameras are. my name is melissa, educator, activist with black lives matter and people's education aubrey abrakasa. to this day his case has not movement.
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enough, enough, enough, enough been solved. it's been 9 years. next is year it will be a decade. the enough enough is. perpetrators are still running the street. the former mayor said i know who killed your son, i have got some things i want the d. a. knows who killed your to say but i'm just wondering -- i'm son, and the police know who killed your son. after this, nothing was wondering done. all i'm left with is my son how many of these injuries. laying in a this whole country, this whole country is cascade and a mother crying a lie. over his body. ideal with this daily. i die daily. i don't fight for only my child but all of these other unsolved manifest destiny -- that's cases of 81 men that have been murdered in san francisco. it needs to be solved so called communist. mothers like disorder has been spread for myself can be healed. this is what i'm left with my centuries and what did they do when they stole the land? they enslaved people.
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i'm not talking about son that i don't have anymore. lifeless on a gurney. it's not traditional slavery. this is twisted shit like i can go have another one. i want and they hung us. they had parties. my case this is our history, but we solved so mothers like me can also have a be history as a people . we healed. chief suhr, i don't have a suffered, we problem. i think you should stay here on struggled and now we are saying enough the battlefield to continue to fight for us. is enough. that's what i feel. all of this there are people rising up around the world. it's not just san other stuff, i'm not understanding francisco. now is the time. it. i don't agree with mario being now is the time. murdered. he needs justice. hopefully accountable for another young >> thank you. good evening and man. mothers, think about the mothers that are dying due to the police officers. think about the mothers. if there is anyone here with information on this murder. there is an anonymous tip line.
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good evening and welcome. public speaker: hello, i'm here today. i have never been to one of these things. i have never been involved in these kinds of things. my grandfather was one of the first black police officers in san francisco. he was a goodman who did his job well. welcome. when he passed many people showed up to his funeral to pay respects. that's public speaker: well in the video it seems like they surrounded and what i'm thinking of. chief is is trapped you -- him and then they started chief suhr is rotten scandal, shooting. it's cost you have batons. millions of dollars, there is i'm wondering why they didn't use the countless murders with people of color riot gear to compress it so he when they are suspect when they are actually would victims. actually be -- it's like you it needs to stop. black people are still here, we maybe less than 6% but we are still here and it's time for to you treat us with dignity and respect. i have
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been a victim of a crime and treated as if i were the suspect and told by the officer are you sure you want are shooting a bunch of rounds but to file these charges, there are it's like you miss 80% of the time. cameras and when i seen the report he said she's very sexual in nature. this is your police department so as you said he was going to do something that about legislation. the question sends racist text at a kills is when do we get a draft? i mean people of color and steals from people and mocks months, people as they demand justice years, do you count by how many for black people and say that black lives people die? when do we get this matter. you should not be leading this police draft? and department, you should be the other problem is, you see fired, chief all of suhr. these incidents happening all around the country. why do we have to wait now until someone dies in san francisco before anybody is trying to be proactive and do something. i'm from north chicago, illinois. the
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>> you can file with the office pleasant just tasered somebody 11 times. of complaints. >> and they are paying $3 million. public speaker: i have lived here all of my life. the police are using the tasers you can see that i'm a believer in this city, but what i don't as a torture device. understand is is why would you do something like they are not using it to start a meeting by telling me to stand apprehend people. how much time do i have, mr. up and say i pledge allegiance to the marshall. >> i'm not supposed to answer flag of the united states of america questions. we want to start the and to that republic for which it process tonight. the thing was to hear everybody stands one nation under god and i'm not and to answer questions for you. included as one of that people in that we'll do that when we finish with public comment. nation. and that justice for all means >> i'm here with the sunshine justice ordinance. you do have the for me and everybody else in right to respond not during my public this room. comment time, but after and the it's not centered around one group or one individual. i love this sunshine ordinance says that you can city. i'm a vietnam vet. exchange information except to make it a i fought for this city, i love dialogue or agendaizing it. so this what's city, but i can't stand to
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your response. watch. that boy could have been my >> i gave you my response. grandson. i'm 68 years old. the next one >> my time is up. anybody else could be my great grandson. here to i can't continue to sit here speak? how much longer, mr. and watch them be brutalized you have to marshall? >> once public comment is done. the commission will begin to respond to your question. >> i'm the last speaker. >> we have to officially stop public comment and then begin. just be patient a little longer. do one thank you. little thing and that's to your comments. create no more harm. that's not that hard to do when you actually when you look at the person across from you and say that's my child and ask yourself the question would i do this to my own. i pledge allegiance to the flag public speaker: good evening my name is deedra smith. we in bayview have been asking i pledge allegiance to the flag for a long time for community police. of the united states of america and to
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the republic for which it stands, one nation, under god, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. in the past we've had the officers that if something happened late >> thank you, sir. next speaker. jameson just to name a few, if something good evening and welcome. public speaker: good evening, happened in our community they would commissioners, chief, members contact the parent or someone to let them of the audience on both sides of the know what is happening and what is going aisle.xc on. they stayed engaged in the my name is lonnie fitcpch. i lo community. the officers that we have now don't even know us. are they concerned to know who but i'm still being used. what you hear we are? is a we are not sure. cry from citizens of san francisco we have asked commander before asking for loúatta a lynch to o'sullivan who i know for a fact is definitely come from capitol hill to assist. training has gotten in the way. community but now he has moved some police has been using a to a different status and so he is frivolous approach when dealing with the not with us as much as he used to be. general i think it's unfair what public. i'@kasking mayor ed lee tolook happened to that young man because it at use didn't have to happen. the spaghetti approach before his next they had other opportunities of 4-year term begins. calling the dogs, they had other by not @including police chief opportunities to continue to shoot that young
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greg suhr and fire chief joanne hayes man with them bean bags since we white to don't have the city payroll. they are not elected officials. i'm asking mayor lee the tasers, but they didn't even take to look closely to the spaghetti thrown that into consideration. whoever the individual was that gave the on the walls for the last 3 years by officers that okay, he must be from the the san military. we are not the francisco police department and military like they did in oakland. that's what we are fire department to all standards not not. all i'm asking is for them being used followed by a pattern of to start looking at us having community conclusion. misconduct, policemen again. bring slade unsolved racial and defines on the public. back in, bring jamison back in to train the mayor must use the same these individuals in the communities now. thank you. approach. tear down the whole and rebuild. i say is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is solidify and become concrete. you have closed. been given the iron fist and >> colleagues, we heard a lot the velvet glove. meanwhile there needs to tonight
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and i think before we proceed be 5,000 signatures to be attached to this affidavit so it can be placed on the mayor's desk. thank you very much. just like >> thank you. business as usual, i think i'm going to exercise my discretion as chair public speaker: hello, my name is and start with the items 3a and the michael pe trellis, mayor lee discussion of this department's use of force. i want to say this: i want to get out of city hall, come to the community for say in town hall meetings. my second the wake of last week's officer item is involved shooting of mario about the report from occ. woods, we have seen the video. there vywere six sustained we have had conversations about complaints and not one officer is named. what that video meant to us. you received a report without what we saw, what we didn't see, what we wish we had seen. one officers name disclosed in what they did. they were reprimanded in now, as we speak there are writing and i have no idea who they are. three investigations into this the problem here when we file
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shooting. one complaints with the occ is by the sfpd, one by the d. a. police privilege. police privilege is when the and one by the officers citizens police are complaints. it is essential that these given confidentiality rights investigations are complete and thorough. that prevent joyce hicks and the occ and i for one will not prejudge from telling us who on the police an investigation, but we as a force have commission are not waiting to have a sustained the complaints. you have to conversation start disclosing names. my about the use of force in the san francisco police department. we third item is, the police chief released are starting this conversation tonight for one reason and we are heard it hi calendar to me. here is the tonight over and over and over again, and i have heard it from my police neighbors, from chief calendar laid out. my friends, from my colleagues, tells me when he meets and how from long and where he meets with people. elected officials that viewing it's a great document, chief. you that e-mailed me yesterday and said this video has rattled the trust that in calendar of particular people in the yours will not appear on your african american community have in website. you need to understand this police
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department. i have also had people tell me community policing starts with real that suzy, as much as you want to transparency. that means for the $300,000 you talk about policy and what can be done has are paid, you are giving them nothing to do with the way i feel about loaders as that your calendar on your website. video. people feel different things. we've heard a lot about it everyday people should read your tonight but calendar. >> thank you, mr. pe trellis. they feel they wish it ended differently. there is a large paradigm shift that is happening this this country around policing and a lot of it has to next speaker. public speaker: good evening, do with my name the use of force. it is a question about how the is maddie scott, executive department is training it's director for officers on healing foundation in our handling conflict and what nation. tools they president chapter four, brady have. campaign and president for the san because of that, tonight we are francisco chapter of mothers in charge. i having an initial discussion on the stand here on behalf of glinda woods current policies for use of force. it is the policy that current governance the department. i have asked the chief to update us on the current policy, what other and as a mother. i'm stand here on her behalf
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because departmental orders related to she's not here to speak. i know the use of force and any bulletins he we are angry and we want solutions and has issued. i have also had that's what we all came here for. my conversation with the executive research goal is forum to get outside technical to help gunda lynn woods, i assistance in reviewing the use of force policy and identifying best practices from across the country that we can use here in san francisco. think the commissioner should take into consideration. i have spoken to the department will update you chief suhr about it and san francisco on a program that they are involved that this we need to pay for. in around reexamining the use of force and i think that is very promising, question need to help her lay but i do want to say that tonight was her son to rest peaceful and move forward on our agenda about better about listening and the coming months policing and about sensitivity training and a lot of will be things that will help us as about action and tonight we citizens of this city and citizens of the begin. colleagues i invite any of you cc. to say anything before i ask the chief yes, i think we can work this to give out in the community. i'm angry but i want to his report. challenge my anger in the right direction.
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working with all of us. this is about all of us or none of us. it >> dr. marshall? doesn't look good in san francisco when you have the killing of alex nieto, >> so, that thing was terrible, man. that thing was really bad. gush and kenneth junior and now mr. i wanted for me who works with woods. it took me back after we lost young all of those lives. we have to look at people all the time that was really that as a city. painful. >> we can't hear you. we don't want to talk about it, >> i'm sorry, i'm trying not to but we need to. there is something wrong here yell. an i i'm hurt. know we can fix it. anyway. i'm just saying it was really thank you for your comments. really bad. i point to jermaine, you next speaker. and i have been together a long time and that's the last thing i wanted to see. we work so hard to close the public speaker: hi, my name is arlene ire son. i have been living in san francisco and paying taxes on my house for 30 gap and that is all that was done just years and part of operation ghetto like storm which some of you may have that. i'm sorry for everybody. i said heard of as
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the every 28-hour report. on the news, i said this from the this is a report that is just beginning when you look at that whole thing and this is me personally, it found and didn't make any sense. it just didn't make any sense. itemized 313 killings of black we've got to make sense. people by police in 2012. we've got to make sense. one every eight hours. and basically my thoughts were no. is what i'm saying as a mother of 1 could we have done something two black sons who have each been else and if we didn't, why didn't we? if we couldn't have done something else we brutalized by police since they have to change the policy so we were 9 can. the two things that didn't make years old. obviously, well for me didn't is suhr is not the first chief make sense and i have said this and i continue to say it because this is a first thing i want to look at to protect the police union. as we begin to change the way that we his tone deafness is exemplar do by within business is the first thing was hours of mario being murdered by a and i firing squad while dylann roof think he had a knife.
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so why were we using gun and the policies and tactics with a knife, no. 1. killer in colorado could somehow be captured without a scar. no. 2, is the whole notion of >> can we keep the door closed support so we are able to hear the speaker, fire. does everyone know what i mean? please. can we stop her time? please when one officer shoots. i don't get that? let me stop. finish. it's my turn, okay? i don't thank you. get that? this is your fault for not preparing. so those are two glaring issues, problems, it looks like we have a one size fits all thing and you can't have a one size fits all thing. the only way i know how to do and i know what we can do is change the way we operate.
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we can change procedures, we >> how could you possibly have can change policies, we can do something about training and do something so a hearing? they are white what you saw happen doesn't happen again. supremacist. there is no reason to have them that's going to take time. it's on the not going to be easy. and force still. there has to be a policy to deal with this systemic sometimes, this is really the hard thing to say, an unfortunate incident like that points out all the gaps in the problem. policies and procedures that we have. we got to go to a deescalation mind-set. we have to build in all of those things so that those things what you saw doesn't happen. i personally have buried too many kids. that's why i next speaker, please. good started what i do. evening and that's why i'm so glad to save welcome. him because he was on his way public speaker: i apology that there. i don't want my kids being shot people heard this comment on the news.
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i feel like i need to reiterate by anybody. it this evening. i don't like community this picture taken less than violence, i minutes before mario was shot, i don't like police violence. so i said we'll change it. we are going to start the believe demonstrates without any doubt process. what i try to tell people, it takes that there was no reason for mario time. to be it takes time. we are not going to be shot. you had nine cops there an able to give you a time line tonight but we are going to put the injured man thing m motion and we are going to give who after hit with bean bags, you feedback. we have to do the best practices and we have to find out what everybody else is doing. we have to see. when we get it back, we'll let you look at it and let you say if it's a good idea or pepper sprayed and you have nine cops there not a and they couldn't figure out good idea. change is going to how to get come because it has to come because this man handcuffed without of that killing him. this is absurd. young man. from this picture, the chief >> commissioner dejesus? showed up with one second of video that demonstrated that mario lunged >> so i looked at this video
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with a and we 4-inch knife. have to reflect how we are i don't care if mario lunged at going to go forward from this tragedy and everyone of these police how we are going to improve police officers. they were not authorized to shoot him. they should have had non-lethal performance and i think it's simplistic to say we needed a taser and been done weapons. the cops in the middle near the with this. i think we can echo tonight tree that the when mario slipped he did department with tasers to something completely stupid. he moved panacea is a problem. i have to point out around in front of him and got closer to that's interesting again that they him. the want to get only alternative would have been since tasers when everyone else is the guy had not given up the getting out of tasers. taseers are the knife since he obviously wasn't completely there. the only thing he had in his one that actually kills people when it's used in the manner. if you recall you cannot shoot hand was the gun. the only outcome of someone in the head or the chest. that scenario as he got closer to there is a 3-inch prong. mario, he's going to have to shoot him. on the one in a liability issue, if other cops shoot him. you tase someone you have to tase them
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in the leg or the back. they are saying why didn't they shoot in the leg or >> thank you for your comments. the back. taseers is not going to answer that question. what we need to do is listen to >> i want to remind everybody the goal is to hear from everybody. what the community is saying. they brought some really good points and we any conduct that disrupts our need to ability reflect on the points they to hear everybody -- i want to brought and we should analyze the situation and see what the response is. remind you, your conduct is what i heard at the community interrupting our ability to hear from everybody. meeting and here tonight, the inquiries is how many years of experience did thank you. i would like to hear from the the officers have at the scene. what i heard is two officers had 5 next years speaker. experience. that's something we should be next speaker. looking into in terms of tactics and how we partner our officers up. the other issue that the guys, we really want to hear community mentioned were is bayview use from everybody. i hear you and i want to hear from everybody. i hear you. for i don't want to have to -- training ground as training for thank you. i the community. don't want to have to recess yes it is. maybe we need to
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reevaluate that in terms of -- see if this meeting. thank you. thank you. next speaker. that's having an adverse impact in the thank you. community and that needs to change. we are taking a hard look at these questions and keep in mind and analyze and see if this is the best practices for our community. >> next speaker. so maybe that needs to be reevaluated. one change i saw in the articles is the officers don't have any tools. they have a baton. they have shields and so before we jump to say that we need tasers there are other tools in the arsenal. one of the things that people have brought up and one of the next speaker, please. things i know we talked about before in front of this commission is how you set yourself or >> he's here to stand in how you position yourself. in
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moving solidarity with the community. cars, officers are not to put sf preponderance pd is themselves in a position to use lethal force. you don't stand in front of a police car. i'm not sure, i was not there, but whether it's a unaccountable. sf p.d. is systemic. tactical and the way they operate is a tactical decision to look at and see if we can improve that in the future. sf p.d. is seeping in racism. and in terms of experience and the failure to release crime training, i mean, you see statistics, rape kits, prevent officers surrounding the individual and closing in on it. i understand the cit whistle blower retaliation and failure to release sting operation and the officer was present but one of the ways failure to create a culture of to deescalate is to step back and integrity that would prohibit officers from take a moment and give people time to joking about killing unarmed civilians breathe and also assess the situation. over coffee and donuts caught on you wonder in terms of examining video. the culture of a union that is that to what commissioner marshall said was
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determined to bully leaders and there someone in charge there that they anyone were handling it and why did, i that might disagree. guess the culture of killing mentally one of the questions the community had is why did all officers had to ill discharge their weapon at the same time. was there any of the citizens instead of crisis commands. i intervention. we must hold know there are other issues going on. i know this was 4:30 p.m. and chief suhr people at accountable as gary and the the bus stop and a lot of other concerns going on. even though i don't mayor. we must hold chief greg suhr want to second guess this, this is a tactical decision and we need and mayor to see what we can do and how could it ed lee accountable. 70% of the officers do not live in san francisco have gone better and there needs to and chief be more suhr doesn't see this as a training. this is something we need to look at and try resolve going problem. he asks which side are you on sf forward. but i certainly don't think p.d. and the police commission. tasers are the answer especially when the league of voters is on the tasers can do a lot of harm and it just community side and the community demands that chief suhr go. raises the concern of where these tasers >> thank you, next speaker. are going to be used and what community are they >> good evening mr. lacy, going to be used on. welcome.
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so we need to look at the use of force and attack -- tactical use of public speaker: good evening. my name is lacy. force. here representing the family of what is still in our use of force mr. woods. i'm not here to comment procedure is the choke hold on the federal courts due to the which has been outlawed. unlawful and wrongful shooting and killing of mario it's called the carotid woods. what i'm here to talk about this board and commission. one is to set policy. i understand the restraint. commission has >> thank you, commissioner. the advice and suggestions by the mayor that you revisit the issue of vice-president turman? the use >> i agree 100 percent with a of force by the san francisco lot of police department. i urge you to reach what with commissioner marshall out to said here tonight. of course i am parties such as myself and others in the community who are present here disturbed today. i am here to talk more about by this action. i'm disturbed by this shooting. the second function of this body which is
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of course i have feelings about to offer discipline that have abused the it. of course i have emotions and mighty power and authority that we have given them. right now mario woods' of course i care what this community thinks. body lays with 21 bullet holes, 21 in his i don't have a son but my body because of and egregiously, mother has three black sons. any mother, any parent would care, any mother with a child would care. i am deeply concerned about the egregious force. chief suhr is to step down. state of policing all over this i'm not here to tell you that needs to happen to rectify the wrong country and that has been done then this commission particularly here in san francisco. our use of force policy has to be needs to take the authority and stance to do so. examined and it just can't be us looking but definitely what needs to happen is at it. i'm glad that president loftus the officers who were involved in this says perpetration of injustice need to be held to full count of law. justice, a third party but we that's what need to go a little bit further. your job is. i'm going to do my job in the commissioner dejesus raises a courts.
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you do your job here. more important point when she points out that there are things such as choke hold that is in our policy that needs to be reviewed and we need to guard against anything like this public speaker: i come here happening again. i don't understand how tonight because the number of things the it's not just the police department presence of ci t did not lead chief suhr, it's the whole san francisco period. i just found out today that a to a better escalation scenario. home girl i think looking at the video of mine was murdered who was there is a lack of common sense that should wheelchair bound in the alley, a dark accompany the policy. i don't alley and it hasn't been any mention of it. this is the young woman, this understand this situation. is the i'm used to policing as someone older woman murdered clothes working with law enforcement we owe the
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community better. ripped off her and i had to hear it in the we should dough -- do better streets. it's the same thing that's going on and that with our community. starts tonight. it ain't just the police >> anything else before we ask the chief? >> we need to move on. killings, there is no solving of anything >> just briefly i heard my dealing with black folks. fellow commissioners. i too have seen the video and i have already heard from the community tonight. there was a strong showing from the community and that i appreciate and there was a comment made by the commissioners looking stoic or not paying attention. unfortunately we are here to listen. that's what we are trying to do and hear what you have to say. we have black on black crime for all of you that came tonight, thank you. as a commissioner, that have not been solved. we have mothers that are grieving for over 20 years.
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over 20 years because nobody >> we shouldn't comment on what can find out who killed their children. took place on that video if we are going to pass judgment later on when reviewing an officer involved shooting. not all of it because we have gang violence. >> thank you, sir for your comments. thank you. we can thank you, sir. take a look at what we have. what do we have in our policies next speaker, please? and procedures, what can we do to public speaker: good evening, make it better. what are our best practices. that's our job and we need to look at that. we looked at the use of force twice with the issue myself with commissioners, we have looked at the use of tasers and seeing if
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there is anything better out there. what took place is a tragedy in the community. with that we should move ma'am. forward and take a look at what's the best practices. hearing from president loftus, an excellent idea. let's see if there is something that we can do better with our use of force continuum. let's do it. it's what we as members do in the community. let's start that process. >> i'm woods grandmother. i have contemplated, i have prayed. i don't understand how a knife >> excuse me one of things that take all those officers to shoot him we would like for to you think about is is is is if you want to have a down. i don't understand that. dialogue with the people in the commission. you need to look at that seriously i don't understand, and it's breaking and consider that we are here to our heart. listen. we
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are not here to pass judgment i'm asking the chief of police until we to resign. have a plan in place and decide i'm asking for the five officers that did this to him sensely. it only takes one bullet to kill anybody. what this department needs to do at one bullet, not 22, 25. they this time we are not discussing any are trying to keep up with chicago. specific strategy. nothing has been put on the table. so i would like to move i heard a kid tell his mother, forward and begin to look at those i'm not going to police because they possibilities. thank you. are killing people. that's ridiculous. they are supposed to be civil service. they are supposed to protect for us. now, that's what i want. i want cheer is you to resign and the five officers that did -- chief suhr? this, i want their job and be >> yes, i too saw the video. i brought a bunch of charges because it was senseless. >> thank you, ma'am. found it upsetting. i don't know that i next speaker. talked to anybody that didn't find the video upsetting.
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public speaker: my name is there are three independent investigations going forward. one by our hospitalized deandre with the incarceration efforts. division that looks at all officer involved shootings, one by the district attorney's office and one by the office their lives don't matter, but of citizens complaints. those investigations are going it does to many of us. i will be forward. when i gave the update at the goddamned if i'm going to be a good german to say it town hall , i gave the facts as i know doesn't happen and say it won't them to that point and when officers happen to me. are as german, what happened when allowed to use lethal force. that's where we are on the that war ended. people are just as investigations going forward. guilty when there has been some conversation today they gassed the jews. that i should apologize to mrs. woods yes, sir, you should be fired, the officers should be fired. you that happened. i have talked to her and i are a murderer. you need to be tried and apologized for the loss of her son. convicted of i was actually contacted that murder. these are basically to take his night by a community member with her at murder and turn it around and allow
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the time she didn't know and we were them to do able to connect her with the homicide even more. division and i apologized to her too tasers, batons kill people. about that procedure that it wasn't and sadly they could not take down a man hasn't been good before. so we are looking to making without shooting him. that's the point. that a better thing where anybody at it's open season on black and the scene latinos. no matter what they have for would have a better number to weapons, they are going to end up contact. that said, i have been in shooting meetings with people. this has to stop, these the commission and the mayor meetings have to stop, hash tags have to stop about what to do immediately to try and avoid a and i say with a we need to do is is repeat of this. we have done some things. take this to the streets. i was on a conference call this take the example from ferguson morning with a group back east of 30 and chicago and let's show them police departments that will be what san francisco really is, but working on beneath the facade of this liberal city is reengineering on training police on the a use of force adapting a model cesspool with racist tactics attack and all of this other stuff. used in scotland. you saw that in a train station we have to shut it down.
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spoke of tonight of a person in the >> next speaker, please. middle east stabbed two of them and the london police department was able to subdue that subject with use of a >> good evening. i wish i did device some people calling it a taser. not have that worked and that person is to come tonight. alive. if that same exact situation i'm not sure that you have already heard it loud and clear. it's happened here had san francisco, that time for would have resulted in lethal force because we transparency. don't have conductive energy devices. i remember maria cohen and london know that's a whole other breed saying that san francisco is discussion. we will work with this group to not ferguson. san francisco with work on officer, everything to protect worse than ferguson with all the killings the we've had this year. sanctity of life while it's time for this commission protecting officer's safety at the same to actively diligently look at time, critical decision making, the policy and procedures that are being violated national about the lives, the lies that model, proportionality with fire, how that should work, tactical we hear. the community that is deeply communication skills, time and
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distance strategies. we have a strategy insulted. in those lives are insulting our place here in san francisco intelligence. we are going to when an edge hear from person in crisis is only in danger to mario's organizing community himself. some of those events have gone forming in overnight and been resolved bayview. it's longer review and it's peacefully. i think someone brought up here going to be that we need to come up with an active nationwide very soon. you see that new edge yorker is picking up a couple weapon/other weapon strategy that is different from an active of fines. yes, i'm asking for your shooter resignation, strategy. we have identified shields that chief. are used in scotland. i'm asking for ed lee to resign however contentious it would be, i would ask the commission to or do his job and asking to examine pick up the discussion we left on in april her position now, the statement of 2013 made and with regard to a pilot. this the kind of support she's going time i to give to the people. thank you. don't think it's as has been pointed out by mental health professionals have a device used as a special
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weapon that only our police that get the additional training uses like our tactical public speaker: good evening. division or specialist. there was a specialist at the scene this i'm speaking for san francisco. how do day so there would have been one on you feel being part of the most scene. i think that's the discussion genocide city in the united that we need to have because it does states. how is it this population shrunk to put something between the beanbag gun of 3% what we have ordered almost which is 56%. that statistic is doubling the content. the epitome of the united states. we have ordering for additional united states is the epitome of non-lethal round. locking so again why didn't we just black people up. of killing black people. you have to make a keep using viable change now because of prop 47, we have non-lethal rounds. we need to get that amination hundreds of millions that can come down. you have the resource to go to disfranchise areas to housing. if you look like me, you don't -- we have the best training in the deserve it. you have individuals that department in the country and look like me should be on the police we are the only department in the force. if country that you have so much problems with require every academy graduate the police force, change it. wipe
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to be is everybody out. i know in another city in certified and they get new york when they had a killing just like this, deescalation training and firing training in the police stopped patrolling in the the academy and that will continue to grow. neighborhoods and every what we have done immediately, we've already given new instruction disfranchised neighborhood, there was not one to our range qualification and install 911 call, not one robbery, not one crime. deescalation. a deescalation portion prior to that's a bigger city. this city is getting ready to the officers going to the range. blow up. when it blows up, how do you we've created more pause to feel? how do you feel when you walk down slow everything down because again the the support fire is something that street and so many homeless is is concerning. there. you make 3,000$3,000. we are also now able to how do you make this. my organization discourage the threat so the officers would is is all of us or none. we are right down the block. i will know when they should stop. personally come meet with everyone of you if again the different bulletins you decide to make a change. we've been we put over here out like responding to persons helping with legal services for in crisis, trying to avoid the the last 37 years. all of us have been for the unlawful
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last decade shooting like this one would be helping the poor and and addressing any officers that might shoot at vehicles. disenfranchised. i implore you to take that so, again, a lot of things in money and do motion already. a lot of things will some viable programs. please unfold in the next 30 days. place it with somebody. >> thank you for your comments. this group engineering on police use of thank you. force will have this completed next speaker, please. by the end of january so all police departments around the country can thank -- turn from the culture of using police force and now we can talk about our own use of force general order which no commission has sought to reopen. since i'm looking at the date of october 1995. to that end, i will read the very first page of the policy. the policy of the san francisco police department to accomplish the
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police mission with the highest regard as possible with the minimal >> what i want to address is the fact reliance upon the use of physical force. the that as you can all see our use of physical force shall be community restricted to is broken, our hearts are circumstances authorized by law and broken. minimal necessary to accomplish the travesty that has happened the is very personal. so, what i want to police task. talk about b. is an opportunity for the officers are confronted with community to come together with this situations where control must be commission as well as the police department. i believe we need to really sit exercised, control maybe achieved or down advised where the use of reasonable force, and be conscientious as ms. force can not be used unless other brown stated to go into academy and alternatives are exhaustive or clearly do the sensitivity training and allow effective under certain circumstances. officers our community leaders to establish permitted to use whatever force a trust relationship with the heads of is reasonable and necessary to protect themselves but no more. the the precinct. we also need to empower the d. purpose of this policy is not to restrict
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a.'s office throughout the neighborhood from the courts to bring a viable court use of force to protect system to the bayview. themselves from other guidelines of the force these neighborhood courts will to be work all over the city, but we have used and excessive never been able to get it to work in the circumstances officers should use any force bayview. what that means is you have reasonably necessary to protect community members on those panels when themselves and must be able to articulate the reasons for implementing you have such force. complacent occur in the this order is the governing community as well as particular officers that you may have problems with and general order and seven orders lastly we including this order that touch on matters of also need to do a recruitment force additionally there are 3-unit of actual persons who are interested in orders being in the department and also to that need to be considered begin to mend the broken relationship because at the end of the day, we have to about incorporated general order and have someone to come there to be 14 active department bull tins there for us. the duty of the police that also modify this general order officer is to protect and serve. things like that's what we want. we want officers are prohibited from protection, service and we want shooting a person using lethal force on a the officers to also know that the person community will wrap our arms in crisis that is only a danger
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around you as well. we want you to go home to your to family members, but at the same themselves. i bring up i know as time we need you to value the citizens controversial as that you are assigned. >> thank you, ma'am. thank you for your comments. the device, that in embarcadero and there was a conversation that we don't have enough trained officers and no at >> public speaker: any other name the scene, there should have been another officer. all of those is frank williams director of the things were there last wednesday night and none of them worked in that program. i'm here for two instance. reasons. one so, to that end, i think in is to say to my elders who have fairness to been in these different positions for the officers, a very many years and part of our status restrictive policy that would only allow them to quo need to step down themselves. we use the have a gang conductive energy device as an of youngster out here whose voices are not being heard and former alternative to lethal force of
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incarcerated the continuum to those officers as well. we are working to that give build a leadership in this town. them the training with regard to use in we went from 1989 to 3%. the any weapon in situations officers should be able to call for them so we never have a repeat of anything problem isn't just with the chief. close the problem with the mayor and to what happened last wednesday. the problem with some appoint ees >> thank you, chief. i would add that there is in of the mayor and moving out of their the pipeline officer training and that is homes and working it's way up and very justify the increase over the relevant because it speaks to the last 3 years that came into this town direction and our around deescalation. people are leaving this town >> i did forget one thing. and they i did have conversation with people in this room to discuss cultural can't afford this rent. competency training at the academy that would involve members of the that man was executed. community. we do do a lot of cultural competency. we have a racial profiling i want to say a gunshot and a class that reverend brown brought up that we black male hit the concrete like a brought back in january and
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we've gone sack of potatoes. people were startled through quite a bit of implicit and people were scurrying and some bias training and attended procedural people were running from the scene, justice classes. all of these are planned to go forward for all the scene where that crime took place. members going forward into 2016 the the scene, help of the the scene, the scene where that community. young >> chief, i did read and i'm black male met his fate. he met going to ask the commission to puts this his maker calls that young black up in male to lose his life. our website. training and the a misplaced hatred and leaves perf report. chief, can you speak to the family to question, why, my the department's effort that the baby. a mother cries. department is going to be a pilot site. why those that gather around if you can talk about that a little bit and i want to highlight some question god, question ourselves. things why did this even happen trying that perf has already said. >> so, myself and the to justify a police running in commanding front of officer and the training division as that man and they are going to well as lieutenant mario molina say he launched at that man. who is the officer in charge of our >> thank you, sir. crisis intervention training will be traveling back to washington d.c. in thank you.
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january on a 2-day working group and going back again at the end of january to finalize this is a top priority for all of laughed in -- law enforcement in the country to get this change in police culture to go towards deescalation and other alternatives to lethal force so public speaker: good evening, as was spoken to earlier that really the only time that a firearm would come into play would be when we were dealing with a person with a firearm. first of all, my position is i'm a soldier of the cross. >> i just want to read a my position is i'm a deacon. section from this report because we are my name is wade. squarely from a conversation. i'm here to present solutions. this report was a perf from an i have prayed, i have asked the lord executive research form to lay on convening from sheriff's across the country. my heart how we can eliminate the report says there is a growing this recognition in the policing proefgs senseless killing of these profession that a review of an young black officers young men. use of force solely for the use
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of force, instead saying the review should led up to the incident and five solutions, short and sweet and to the point. the damage has been done. officers should be able to deescalate to now we need solutions. solution whatever point reached use of no. 1. the implementation of a black force is police chief. no. 2, hiring and necessary. that's why people wonder why did that officer shoot a balancing the number of black police to the homeless man because he had a knife. why couldn't they tase him or equal number of white police. no. 3, pepper spray him or wait it out. they didn't have to kill him. police are and every predominantly black community there should always be one increasingly recognizing this black officer with one white police and officer. considering when considering there should never be two white use of force. the reason i say that is officers paired up in a black to -- community. no. 4, this is with changes of procedures and policies which credential perf and significant is long over due. chief that you have committed the no. 4, the only time a police department to this and i think it's very officer promising. i will share this
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should use lethal force and allow to with all the commissioners and make sure shoot above the waist only when it's available on our website. what i propose, colleagues because we confronted in any type of all went through a process with creating firearm so there is a gun, cross bow and a body camera policy is to suggest we arrow shotgun, last but not least, this are dark mainly should be changed. for the remainder of december. solution no. 5, any hand held weapon such as a sword, machete, we reconvene in january. there is a number of bulletins and things need to be put together as a starting point. i also would hatchet, axe, like the knife, club, baseball bat, experts from perf to advise on rocks, behalf of the commission, the bottles or hand forced object department in revising that and i would like to set a that are not dangerous or lethal danger tentative goal which dr. marshall usually says is unreasonable. in the category of a firearm, it would but at the end of january for that be mandatory that police shoot process to come back to the commission for only below next the waist preferably below the steps which would include
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knees community input before it's finally and legs. adopted to that's what it should be. give some structure to the >> thank you, sir. process would be my suggestion colleague. i'm >> deadly force should be used certainly open to suggestions. when a person has a firearm. commissioner dejesus. >> i'm okay with that. i do after that the person should be shot have a problem with the draft before only below the waist. we have the community involvement. >> we got it. you can give that to our secretary. thank you. >> good evening, welcome. public speaker: good evening. my name is alfred robinson. >> i do have concerns about that. i think it's better to have i'm a retired san francisco police officer. i was born and raised in san francisco. i am a deacon at third baptist church. pastor dowell is my pastor. i came to the police commission hearing to express my concern for the use of deadly force by five police officers against a black man carrying a
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steak knife. several officers approached >> other commissioners? woods >> i think the timeline is concerning the alleged assault at reasonable. with reference to this use of approximately 4:30 based on a force, there is different documents complaint that need to be put in place and we need by a man at san francisco general hospital. to look now that woods is deceased, we through the experts including perf what other level can we put in there don't know if he was defending himself and we have supervisor browns we can against the person who he stabbed. we have no information on what occurred streak during that assault. -- stream line this process a bit. >> my big concern of course all of our big concerns. i have to expect after being based on what was a draft that was looking very different from the current way we do things. i reported in the newspaper by chief suhr just we after the officers used a beanbag did that report i'm very arrest --
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car triple -- cartridges and confident that the draft we put together looks very different from the way we've been operating and we'll shore up and i used a could be wrong. high power beanbag and mr. you know, if it's not then we woods fell to his knees. probably won't accept it. i don't understand how you can shore up the glaring i think have over six officers surrounding a glaring deficiencies in the way we are person whose on his knees and they can currently doing things. in many ways we've been lucky. not apprehend him. every officer is this points that we have to do something quickly and do it issued a 24-inch baton. well and i believe it's going to happen. if it's not like that, then we just won't accept it. >> thank you, doctor marshall. commissioner dejesus. >> one of the things you mentioned this 14 bulletin that modifies this order that should also be made to >> thank you, mr. robinson. commissioners available to we have to treat everybody the review that to compare to the draft in same and give everybody 2 minutes. january.
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>> my name is andrea robinson. >> i can make sure you have that in your next packet. i'm a teacher. i'm an sf >> that was going to be my teacher. my issue is i teach in the primary comment. i think you are right on giving communities that we serve and my students us information a year ago. we certainly took in a lot of have fear and that's not okay. input, not just tonight but from the if i'm standing here as an naacp meeting and the community meeting last week. let's get to drafting and educator telling my students that it's let's get something out there and get necessary to get their education for what to this sooner rather than later. hope? they don't have hope if they >> i thank you vice-president are looking at people who are supposed to protect them. so my question is turman. i how is understand commissioner dejesus the additional discharging of where a first draft makes you feel you weapons justified and what is the are committed to it and i justification appreciate the of shooting him over 20 times point that you are making and there is an urgency now and this once he was already on the ground. thank you. >> thank you, next speaker? commission has shown that we have the ability to set policy and working in >> good evening, pastor collaboration with the community and as a first step, chief suhr, if you and the mcbride, department can do this work, we will bring welcome. public speaker: pastor in perf and work out those details and
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certainly layout a community mcbride, pico california. i understand it is process that again will be worthy of tactics and strategies for policing. you must understand that we are not at how significant a shift this will be for this department. a moment right now where policies and colleagues anything further? practices are going to answer where people are. chief suhr, you have lost the >> let me just say for me, this trust and faith of the community is not an us against them thing. regardless as to how anyone feels about that. it has been lost and we must police, i'm trying to be cool. understand we are in the community, okay? this that even though black people in san is not us francisco only make-up 3% of against them. that kid means as the population, we all know that much to the police me as jermaine and any other only have contact on a regular kid i have worked with. basis with 3- 6% of the population that's the way we feel. if we can do, where usually the majority of that do whatever you have to do. this is not us against them. that will population help us move this thing is 70-80% black and brown forward. i have people. so to say that. the trust that you need to be very clear about that. police in the city is not with it's white all of us are feeling this. let's get that straight. i'm saying that residents. it is with the black residents for joe marshall. all of us are feeling
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and the trust has been lost. there is a lot of policies and this. wait a minute. i have got the floor. practices that need to be put it's not us against them. none in place that can help to think about of us like this. and we are going to move forward so that we can do our best not to police legitimacy, procedural justice, have this happen again. tactics around the mentally ill. until you get the trust of the community which means chief, you have to go. and here is the last thing i'm going to say to this commission, you cannot ask anybody in this city to be >> one thing i do think is important to peaceful say is that four of us are until san francisco police appointed by department the mayor, three of us are is peaceful. you can't ask young people to appointed by be peaceful until the department board of supervisors. is going to be peaceful. when we were we all have terms that expire. there is raised sit a public process where you can ting in the class with dr. weigh in on-the-job that we've done and whether marshall, he or not we are entitled to talked about the commandments and the hood that we needed to apply to another term. that's the way this process reduce violence. well, there is some works. >> we are not voted in. we are appointed. >> anything further on this commandments that san francisco people have. matter? okay. we challenge these commandments
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that say you shall be able to kill a ladies and gentlemen, we are going to, i'm going to move back into black person when they don't comply. agenda to we reject the commandment that go back to where we were. says if you are mental ill and homeless, you i did move this out of order. are going to die on the street. chief, it is time for to you resign. i sergeant, please call the next item. say to the commission, the worst that you need city clerk: item 3, reports and to do around the practices, around the policies, around the training announcements, review of recent to restore legitimacy, that cannot activities, status update begin until you get to a place of regarding trust. i social media policy, close with this: if you don't presentation want any redepartment general order. people to get hurt in this >> given the late hour. city, somebody, i recognize the i will leave it up to you choice is not with you all, but you are going whether you to have want to offer up these reports. to use your relation at equity to get >> president loftus, i will not justice for mario woods, be present at your next meeting so justice for the next time i will be able to give these the community. reports would be at just the first meeting in january. i implore to ask the commission
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to do what is right. >> that is our next meeting m >> good evening, sir and welcome. public speaker: i'm here to speak for january. >> if i could speak briefly and mario woods. the stuff going on today has been going on for a very the rest of the report we can defer very long until time. my father was killed by a january. i just wanted to say as a director of the officer of san francisco police officer in 1972 which is now retired. he's at home living and my citizen father is complaints in an officer dead. involved a couple years ago, i was shot shooting. i too am a mother of an african american son and one in at 4-6 times by the sf p.d., case no. another county has been subject to less than gracious treatment by a member 95010463. i was shot by police 46 times of a and 19 sheriff's department. bullets hit my car and by the grace of god, i didn't get touched. and i have made it my what they did is they covered obligations to give my son the talk. it up and it's done. there is nothing else being done about it. i'm here today because that
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however, and i as i should say could have happened to me. i could be dead as others on this diose am today. you know, i could be dead because they shot at me. disturbed by this video as well. how ever i am charged with the officers on aaron williams, he got killed complaints to deal with fair and impartial on the investigation so i cannot dirt bike. prejudge and my staff cannot prejudge so something needs to be done and these complaints officers need to be prosecuted. filed by civilians whether they be a if you can please write down this number please. because you know neglect -- iv duty or an what happened, i got pulled over in officer involved in the shooting of a my vehicle a couple years ago. the case no. 950166403. death of an individual. the officers the officer pulled me over have because the complaints from the death of person in my car didn't have mario woods and we will investigate his seat those complaints fairly and
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belt on. one of the officers that impartially. responded, he came up to me and and we have already assigned stuck staff to his hand out to me to shake my do so and we will be providing hand. i looked at his badge. his name full resources to do this very very serious tag. you know what he told me. he said i task. in addition to our job of apologized. i could have took investigating your life complaints, the oc c has also because he shot at me 21 times. charged pursuant to charter section that means he unloaded his handgun and still 4.127 with was shooting at me. making policy recommendations to the >> i'm asking for a police department to the police representative from the office of citizens commission that would serve to enhance complaints to community and police relations meet with you so he can follow to that end our office too will have up. thank you, sir. involved next speaker? in reviewing proposed changes to the department's use of force public speaker: how are you doing. any other name is gary busier, an policies. moving on then to some recent activities that are relevant. last tuesday, mayor lee did educator. i work with the young people meet with department heads and advised us
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here. the day that mario woods was that due to the retirement fund killed i was working and running a class expenses each general fund department 5 minutes away from the scene. my would need to provide a 1.5% budget question is how can you look at a mother in her face after her reduction. when we submit our budget next son has been shot 25 times by 6-10 year. the police commission is aware officers and call it not even looking at his that office of citizens complaint race, not even looking at his mental has struggled with not being able status, to fill vacancies due to budget not even looking at the community but shortfalls. the occ target for reduction filing that protocol. she has to bury is that man. when he was trying to $64,000 for $128,000 additionally. walk away from a situation. i don't i have been advised by the budget office that the occ office must know what people's problem is around mental instability. first of all, hold totaling $364,000. i will be chief suhr is, you need to go before we meeting with the mayor's budget force mayor ed lee to push you out. director with after that, we need to charge these the heightened expectations of
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officers with murder. he did not need to the occ in light of these recent lose his life. i'm a young black man tragedies and in light of the communities born in america and born and raised in the bay expectations of over sight not area. i work inside the community. i have only been shot at by the police. how am i with regard to investigations supposed to talk to my and policies as well. i will keep students. i have a student outside who is 15 the commission informed of our years old, progress. a freshman that i work with >> thank you. everyday. how can i tell him that he's any questions for director safe in his community when he has bodies like him laying on the floor? if we hicks. sergeant please call next item. can't get justice here we'll take it to the >> item 3 c commission reports, d. a.. if the d. a. can't talk to us, we'll go up and find out what we can do commission president's reports. to start a movement to clean up this commitment announcements and scheduling situation. of items identified for >> thank you. consideration at future commission meetings. >> colleagues, we've flagged next speaker. good evening, sir already for the end of january a discussion. so and commission secretary if you can welcome. public speaker: good evening. mark out that date for us. i'm uncle bobby, the uncle of
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we still maintain a need to have a discussion about the social officer grant. media policy. in that i would i am sickened by what i have include what the department ace policy is seen and this is for chief suhr. around the release of mugshots many a question that we've been asked. chief g of the police resigned. anything further, colleagues? >> can i have a clarification, chief the third commission meeting of the lee of the sanford police department, the one responsible for trayvon month is the community meeting and we are in martin, the tenderloin. that would be the last meeting resigned. chief lee who used to be in in baltimore. january. did you want to put back the chief thomas out of ferguson resigned. the chicago chief is going to draft on the second or did you want to move it? >> can we see if we can move resign this system, the very foundation of this country is imaging on our community meeting to be in the tenderloin on the 15th so it black lives gives us matter. for a person sitting in your more time. we are looking for folks following at seat, i want you to know you are going home january 13th, the first to be responsible for a major unrest two wednesday at the month were in that is going to take place because of
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you. city that was an execution. hall and the fourth wednesday never in this country have we we are dark. we are doing a little seen on video how officers have scheduling in realtime. to give the amount conducted of time themselves on an arrest. if we can be back at city hall what's happening right here is on the getting ready to spread. i suggest to you to resign. 20th but tenderloin on the 13th. i know the captain has been very accommodating. >> for people in the audience, to make yourself look good before we the next meeting will be the first week run you out of here. the commission, in january, 6, 2016 at city hall you have a responsibility to beginning not give at 5:30. him them tasers. >> i'm going to be out of the country on the 20th. i would ask you to this is behind to give him the select a different date so we can all be here and participate in this tasers discussion. >> i would love for all of us so he doesn't have to deal with to be here and participate in the discussion. i actually can pick a date. it. that's my my nephew was murdered. i'm job. so i would like for you to be able to angry. we be here. let's do this. chief, have a community that is outraged. pay attention. do you when i say this system is have a sense, i know we talked about this. hemorrhaging is the 13th too soon.
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on black lives matter, you are going to i just, i want to pick a date be accountable if you fail to and meet do your it. commissioner dejesus is out of job right. the country and in order to >> thank you, sir. next speaker. accommodate that, do we need to move it to february? >> i think that would be best. public speaker: i will tell january you what, 13th is one of the dates for there is nothing new under the sun. okay. the you all have been doing this reengineering. we'll all be in washington d.c. for a long and since they are planning on time since the beginning of this finishing. we are planning on finishing country since this country started. we our work are tired of it. i will tell for january 29th. you one we can incorporate it for thing that's changed is whatever comes of that curriculum into technology. now we have see what you are doing. the use when you are doing it. we can of the use of force policy see it and everybody see's it, the would give whole world us the most forward thinking seen it and you are accountable for it. policy. i'm not going to come here and >> in light of that let's set tell you to fire him, but he does need to get february for the target to come back and fired. i'm not going to tell you to fire him. i'm not going to come work with perf on behalf of the here and ask you for justice. i'm commission. >> yes. going to >> okay. great. thank you for clarifying that, tell you justice is coming for sergeant kilshaw. you. anything further on this
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>> next speaker. good evening matter, colleagues? okay. we'll now sir is, and welcome. have public comment on items 3a-d. public speaker: i'm a family member of mario woods. this is my cousin. i want you to all look at him. he's a >> basically on what you just person. he's a person like you. heard. do you have any public comment he deserves to be breathing on it right now. greg, chief suhr, we are asking right now. you to resign. this is what we want. you lied to my aunty and a >> i'm wondering what letters person that rides in a car with a murderer, will go out regarding information and what is when do you think you will get those he, an accomplice, that's what you are. you are the head of it. type of if you feel this is right, you documents back because i'm sure some of that information is online. how deserve what happens, not my cousin. we many different policies and procedures do you believe you will have when you come have six names. we are asking to you back into session on january release the names of all officers involved. we are asking to you give my aunty 16? th? >> so, thank you. i will a personal apology. i want you to apologize to her. she didn't know that briefly respond that what i will direct was her son on the ground and the nobody cared about it. commissioner secretary to do is
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you need to pay for his funeral we have a body camera page on our and i commission know chief, you need to do him website. we can have a use of right. i force want a federal investigation page, current use of force as iechl -- well as the information and that will be i know you guys don't available on the website. when a draft policy is is provided to this investigate yourself many we want all five commission it will be put on officers to be charged. the website so everyone can follow ed lee is going to get his, that discussion. we will be back on january 6th, and we will have the discussion as we said of the draft policy on marshall, nobody spoke on you. i believed on you when i was on february 3rd. >> i would just like to add for the boys including. you to i grew up looking at you. consider bringing in a i'm sick of looking at you. every time i come to one of your public meetings. you look so bored. negotiator for i'm sick of looking at your these issues for your intervention by having a negotiator public is
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[bleep] face. there public speaker: good evening, any additional public comment? seeing my name none, public comment is closed. is charles grace. i'm with the >> item 4, public comment on united all matters pertaining to item 6 coalition. 12 years to be exact down in below closed session public comment on vote third whether to hold item 6 in street where the chief was the closed session. >> is there any public comment captain there. we don't understand a lot of on item 6 closed session. things >> i think the sunshine that go on. ordinance allows for a brief description as far as the grass roots for what people because i think that's a problem with the closed session is about not the middle class african excessively like names but americans speaking for the grass roots, what's the closed session about? people >> so i will again provide a that are out in the struggle and it needs to stop. we need to have brief response on what is able to be a voice responded is available on the too. it's always those angry black public agenda. it's indicating what we guys stirring up more mess. will be dealing with tonight with the information that we precluded and everything getting buried, by law from sharing. i will also swept under the rug.. indicate that we don't hear nothing else like we go into closed session for
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the man matters that have to do with personal shot out in front of the opera house. we started a concerned citizens litigation and matters that we committee. we knocked on doors, the mayor can't go into in public session. is wouldn't respond to us. nobody responds. if we are there any additional public comment? going to get seeing none, public comment is closed. something done, you have to hear from the people that's in the >> item 5. vote on whether to hold item of struggle. the grass roots people that's been in the trenches doing the work. that's in closed session including vote all i say. you know, it's got to be on whether to is an assert the some kind of dialogue that we can create attorney-client privilege with that we regard to item 6:00 a.m. san francisco can publically get some administrative code. understanding on what's going on in our >> colleagues, do i have a vote community. until we do, it's going to on whether to hold item 6 in always continue to be the same. it will be swept under the rug closed session. >> so 5-6 more years go by, maybe not even that nowadays the way it's going. african american males are being shot in the streets, cold blooded, murdered. like i said, i remember when >> we are back in open session.
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wendy president loftus, you still brought mario home as a little have a quorum. >> thank you, sergeant. please call the next line item. baby. you know, just like a lot of the african american males that >> item 7, vote to disclose struggle today. then all of a sudden it's nr: "all discussion on item 6 mental health issues and all of these held in closed session. different >> do i have a motion not to issues but he started out as disclose. >> so moved. somebody's child. we need to >> second. >> all in favor say, "aye". >> aye. >> any opposed? motion passes. sergeant please call our next resolve all of this stuff by talking to item. item 8 adjournment, action some of the people out on the streets item. >> colleagues do i have a that understand what's going on to motion to adjourn. >> so moved. help the situation. >> second. >> all in favor say, "aye". >> thank you, next speaker. >> aye. >> any opposed? we are adjourned. [ meeting is adjourned ] >> >> >> good evening, sir and welcome. >> my name is daniel garcia, brother of mark garcia at the officer that
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was charged where my brother was murdered at. you need to stop disrespecting the community. my family is 4 generations here all the way to the bloody strike of '34. these protocols, why you new rules and training, they are not following it. the seven officers that were involved, didn't follow it. they were charged by the occ. nine violations of their general order in the protocols. and you know what happens, your mayor brown told the occ if they don't drop the charges, she's fired. so my brothers case, they got away with murder. don't let this man get away with murder again. justice, for mario woods and all the people that this man
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murdered. >> next speaker, please. public speaker: my name is frank lara. a teacher in the mission. i remember these meetings and we get stuck trying to talk to the people in the mission. with the people watching at home and people are watching this over and over. this is really important. one of the commissioners here, thomas, when we are
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were doing the andy lopez case and getting fired up, he said you need to respect chief suhr to see how independent it is. we saw it with eddie lopez with 40 bullets in his back and with lopez who seemed to have a big machete in his hand and got shot six >> (speaking foreign language.) times in the back, the same >> > (speaking spanish.) thing with this case. the reason why we need to do that because they are going to funnel >> (speaking spanish.) this through a process. they >> are going to tell us that's the process. it doesn't matter how high it goes, it's all corrupt. they have all been placed that way. you at home have to see. i'm a teacher on the executive board. i can't keep talking about equality in the classroom and that you are going to provide a better world because that boy, 26-year-old made the
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decision that we tell our little children to make, pull away from a situation. pull away. and what did they do? they executed him. you at home you have to make a decision. all the cops here in san francisco makeover $100,000. look it up. we used to organize from muni over $100,000. the chief makes over $350,000. you can't hire a teacher. you at home have to make the choice. if you are a nurse, you are union, if you are an nurse and fighting the union rights. think about who these people are bringing. >> thank you, sir.
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next speaker, please. good evening, ma'am and welcome. public speaker: my name is jeannie demayo. i have an african american son. i just want to say that i feared for him growing up everyday. he's had encounters with the police. he's been roughed up. he does not respect the police department. he would never call you unless something happened to his children. his friends do not respect the police. i do not respect the police. when i was in college, i had a professor at san
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francisco state and he said to use words and to communicate effectively it took a very high minded person. i worked all day like most of these people here and i stood outside. i take care of older adults and i came here because when i seen that video, my son showed me before i went to bed, it made me puke. and i fear for my son, i fear for my relatives and i fear for some of the black men that live in san francisco. it was an execution, trust me.
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i have been around the block and you will not go to heaven. >> good evening, ma'am and welcome. public speaker: i represent the black lives in san francisco. several of my family members have died from cancer in hunters point. we are here to demand justice for mario woods and charge the city of san francisco with genocide. you have people out in the hall and not here for public comment, that is a crime. it is public comment and the community is grieving. what you are doing by is by
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keeping these people outside like they are animals and this is a zhao it is i'm sure your family members in this country >> you pay respect to the people of color and the people by being silent you are being complacent. you can't accept a paycheck >> you forget that these people
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are human beings. i have to walk through the backdoor like an airport screening because we are here grieving for a black man's life. for you guys you felt you had to screen us and wand us down with metal detecters. you assume the worst of black people and that's a problem. racism is a disease, all of your minds is rotting the minds of the entire police department. the entire city of san francisco. it's unjust. i'm angry and sad. it's evil. this is evil that's happening here in this country. >> can we let the sheriff's department there are more seats.
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next speaker. public speaker: my name is regina callaway. completely gentrified community. i'm here because i'm angry, frustrated and i'm looking among these faces and seeing faces that are asleep and this is not the last time. we need you to wake up, mr. julius. chief suhr, why do you train your officers to fear blackness. because it's clearly a racial issue. when we have an incident of a white man who waved a knife at you guys, spell your police car and took oun a high speed chase and he's not dead. but you see a man named mario going through a mental moment and all he needed was
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help and you didn't give him help. you killed him. you shot him over 25 times. this is a crime. we are supposed to be that police are supposed to protect us. police slammed my pregnant sister. how do you believe we are supposed to trust police. we have homeless women having babies on sixth street. we are spending money wasting on you and you are not doing your job. this mother needs justice. we have our demands. we want you fired, we want you to pay for this funeral. the funeral she wants it to be $29,000 that she wants trt -- from the city to bury her son from a proper burial. you need to pay for that. because you are a reflection of the community. we appoint you and you need to
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bring justice for us and it's not happening. it's disgusting and sick that san francisco only has 3% of black people. that makes no sense and we built this city. you set us up in the bayview to get all of those toxins and you want to bring in this new community. it says nothing about the community. it was all to protect the income and residents coming in here and crime has been going down. you don't care about us and you want to over police our community and put us in danger when you know that police brutality has been going on. i can look at your faces and see no compassion. >> thank you, mam. thank you informfor your comments.
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thank you. >> thank you, ma'am. thank you. thank you. ma'am, thank you very much. thank you for your time. >> we have to apply the same rules to everybody. we have to apply the same rules. thank you. next speaker, please. good evening and welcome. public speaker: you know why you all got jobs? do you know where the police came from? they started out as slave patrols. they gave white vigilantes and
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free men. you are all unnecessary. we don't need you. all of this money you are spending, we don't need you. so let me give you a little notice. i wish i had a piece of paper to serve you notice. you are fired. you are done and we are coming for the rest of you all. we don't need you. i would suggest maybe you join a job corp, get some job training. this is done. this is over. >> thank you. next speaker. good evening and welcome. public speaker: hi, i was born in san francisco. there is a clear list of demands. clearly they want you fired, sir. they want an apology, they want you to pay for the funeral. it makes sense. you are doing your ancestors proud.
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they have been getting away with murder for years. i know that you are proud of your heritage and where you come from. you are sitting here. >> ma'am, you have to address the entire commission. >> i will address everybody. you are all elected officials. i understand, you sit at the mercy of a white supremacy systemic situation. you are at the mercy of the system. you don't have much power either. you just have titles. god bless you, because the justice that mario woods needs is in the lord's hands. god bless you. >> next speaker? good evening and welcome. public speaker: thank you. my name is david carlos. i want to recite a few names. nieto carlos lopez perez and
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now mario woods. is this a pattern in practice of extra judicial killings in san francisco? that's what we need to ask ourselves. san francisco is an exceptional city, liberal tolerance, free spirited except for the police department. have there been any discussions among you, members of the commission. has there been any outrage, any shame. policy and practice are what you guys are here to do, but you also by virtue of the fact that you have your positions, you have a moral duty i think if the system is corrupt and you cannot change it, you have a moral duty to resign yourself in protest. we have a police leadership that cynically argues that
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tasers as if it's responsible for or blamed for deaths. we don't want the higher tech forms of violence over the lower forms of violence. we need new leadership to deescalate to military -- and this is a shrinking black and latino population. >> thank you. next speaker. good evening and welcome. >> from the cofounder of the project and i'm based in oakland here supporting san francisco. after mario was murdered, executed in broad daylight in your city, i asked
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myself, how long. i posted on facebook as a matter of fact. how long is it going to take the chief to come out to tell the community we didn't see what we thought we saw in the video in how long is it going to take to understand the circumstances of that murder. that's the take. that's what happens every time. we see what happens and you tell us that we are not intelligent enough to under that we saw a black man gunned down execution style in broad daylight in the streets of san francisco and somehow you think that talking to us like we are children who have not been examining watching studying in your study for hundreds of year as we figure out how to tear it down. you continue to talk to us like children and you are inciting the rage of the people. it's coming, the san francisco from
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baltimore to atlanta, there is a movement sweeping this country and we are not going to stop until you stop killing us we will continue to shut it down, interrupt your business as usual and interrupt your election cycle. i have news for you, chief suhr. we are going to continue until you resign or until you all have the courage to fire him. oakland will be here every time. next speaker. good evening and welcome. public speaker: you all might think i'm a little kid by saying this to you all but you are doing wrong by not letting people who have low income get hurt for what you all think they had or what they wanted to do. like, you all have no right to say that we as people
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should not have equal rights for white people or black people. we should have equal together. you should ge fired. you know he should get fired. if he shot your kid in there. would you be crying? that's all i have got to say. think about it in your head. >> next speaker? good evening and welcome. public speaker: this is my mario woods. i'm his aunty. i'm andrea williams. i'm an educator. i come to you as a black woman that is an aunty, a sister, a daughter. i educate black boys and girls at balboa high school. i'm alumni
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of balance boa -- balboa high school. balboa is here for mario. i have four nephews. what you see is not a threat. this is a young man. excuse me, he's 14. he's a boy. don't make our boys out to be men. because when i met you, you said i can call you that. officer is suhr, chief suhr. you said no, call me greg. when i me you, when we invited you to speak out at our martin @?luther king jr. celebration last january, you spoke hope into our boys. you said that we could believe in the fact that the system is going to be better if we do the part of
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assuring that our students are going to school, ensure that they come from good homes, ensure that they come from a good description. you shook my hand. you offered jobs to my boys and girls. we had a personal conversation. when i look at you and i don't see an -- emotion. i thought i was speaking to someone who understood the struggle in san francisco, but yet i see you as a perp. public speaker: we are livid.
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you are putting us in a situation where we don't have to teach about social justice, what you are doing is radicalsing them. they are coming to me and expecting people like me and ms. wirms -- williams and the beautiful faces and allies in this room to give them answers. i'm telling you, i'm running out of things to tell them, i'm running out of reasons to tell them about this system. we are ready to resist this. not in the sense of student resistance. i know you are not afraid of them because you don't see them as taxpayers yet. increasingly adults are able to resist this in ways we are working with the workforce. as a filipino,
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that is your job as another person of color with relative privilege by the luck of the draw that you might be lighter or people might see you slightly differently. it's your job to put your voice on the line and be in solidarity with black people. if you are not righting for black people you are dealing with something you have not dealt with yourself. moreover you should not be blood related to a black person to understand that mario woods regardless of his background deserves the same benefit of the doubt that these white boys who shoot up schools at planned parenthood get every single time. sometimes it's possible to get -- they can get a rubber bullet.
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yet they can't be brought in peacefully by a backup of professionals whose tax money my money is going to. >> thank you for your time. >> i don't want my money. >> thank you, ma'am. next speaker. >> thank you. we have to give everybody the same amount of time. it's based on the rules . i have to be fair to everybody. next speaker. thank you. next speaker.
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good evening, sir and welcome. public speaker: good evening. i'm a close friend of the family. i grew up with mario a few blocks away. i have a couple of questions. one, do you believe mario woods deserved to die? two, what do you believe your police force could have done differently to prevent his murder? feel free any of you to answer because most of you, chief, you have been silent all night. >> i'm sorry, the public comment piece, we are here to listen to you. it's not a question and answer. that is the rules as they are designed. go ahead. >> i have this to say and then i will go. i have this to say and then i will go. growing up in bayview hunters point
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there is a fraction of a relationship. you have the chance to somewhat rectify the situation by firing chief suhr and the officers involved with the shooting. if not, if nothing happens, if i see no action happen, if the community see's nothing happen as a result of this, then may the blood of mario rest in your hands and may the uprising that ensues be in your hands as well. >> next speaker, good evening and welcome. public speaker: san francisco is guilty of genocide on murder grounds. greg suhr, you are the key enforcer of genocide and you need to go. however, we will bring that
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charge to the united nations. we will also bring to the d. a. and attorney general genocide for what killed mario woods. this is the body that elected this killer. this body is be holding to us to remove him from power like the people demand right now. we will call for the dissolution of this body for violating the laws of this state by refusing the public access to public meeting that is in their interest. furthermore we call for the recall for those screaming for justice. as said, there will be no peace anymore. greg suhr, your day has passed. you can make whatever face you
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want because you know what i have said is true. your days are numbered. you are gone. we are putting you on notice. you are gone. any sick of looking body or politician -- we will not stop until that is achieved. all of these people of this community deserve a better city that deserve an end to this genocide and terrorism. we are not going to ask you or beg for it. we are going to [bleep] take it. >> looks like we lost part of the mic there.
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public speaker: >> you have seen the whole world on our [bleep]. he needs some funding. explain that to the community. got that? >> thank you. next speaker, please.
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public speaker: my name -- my son was murdered with the quadruple homicide 11 months ago. the four young men in the car. this man was trying to cash his check working at ben ihanas restaurant. four boys massacred, no arrest. 11 months later. not even one dime is put on their case even for a reward. then the lowlife -- this boy was shot down. you say it was justifiable prior to all the boys massacred in the city. you are saying that is justifiable. what do you thing -- think
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that we are supposed to do. the blood is on your hands. when did you think we were not going to rise to the occasion. my son was a member of the boys club. you were saying that you were going to be at my son's memorial service. you were not there. this is a backup of political rhetoric. we come to this office every other wednesday. we come constantly to your face and you do nothing about it. you sit here and play games like you are supposed to be helping us and you are not giving us any justice, any comfort. i have not gotten a phone from the mayor. but yet you are going to give a plaque to katie steiner that said she was murdered on san francisco public streets. well, what about all
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of these black boys murdered in this city and you have not even acknowledged. what about all the mothers that are crying out for justice and what about you have your investigative team all of these unsolved homicides. you are shooting them. this butter knife. then all of these children. public speaker: next speaker, please. thank you. next speaker please. we have to apply the rules fairly to everyone. next speaker. thank you, ma'am.
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>> next speaker. we have to respect everybody's time here. next speaker, please. your time is done. if someone is disrupting the meeting, i'm going to have to go into a recess. i don't want to do that. next speaker, please. i'm sorry, ma'am. we have to respect the rules here. sheriff deputies step back. this meeting >> ladies and gentlemen, i'm
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asking for everyone's cooperation to ensure that this meeting can run smoothly because as i said at the beginning, it is my commitment that this commission and this department hear from everyone who is here tonight. two minutes per person. i do want to reiterate when folks are asked to stop after two minutes it is because there is a law that requires us to give the same amount of time to everyone. we ask for your cooperation and hope we don't disrupt public comment again and we don't have to adjourn the meeting. we have to run the meeting. disruptive comment is not going to help us. public speaker: i'm going to start by saying to let those people in
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the public hearing. we have rights. i would like to congratulate you for not being elected as chief. last year i was protesting alex nieto's death. did anything change? no. you need to protect the lives of the youth. i don't want to see a man being executed in public. nobody wants to see that. it's completely unacceptable. the police need to be retrained. this system is systemic racism to the core. you are creating a hostile atmosphere outside because you are taking away their rights. thur breaking -- you are breaking the law.
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there is empty seats. it's unacceptable. you have to let them in at some point. greg suhr, i was brought up here and taught to respect the police. but what i have witnessed throughout my life 20 years has not backed up what i have been taught. they need to retrain police. they need to know how to deal with mental illness. that is an issue that city hall has been lacking to deal with. if you don't know how to help them, back away from the situation. do not become a mob, a gang which you have all of your guns pointed at his face. what do you think is going to happen, really? it's called human behavior. did you go to college, did you go to psychology classes. you need to learn about people going through issues like this.
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public speaker: my name is lee stack -- this past april, the sf p.d. beat up my kid who is black. because the occ is powerless to discipline and the only recourse is a civil lawsuit. i never knew to have to talk to my son when he was growing up. it is not right that african american and latino children must have a talk with their children to keep them safe from law enforcement, excessive force and racial profiling. i did everything in my power to give my son opportunity including into going into huge debt to give him a college education. when my son was coming home
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this april, the sf p.d. traumatized us and had a major impact on our lives. i'm hoping with exposure things will change here and it has to stop to heal. al alameda man beat a person and the sf p.d. looked on and now mario is killed by sf p.d. something needs to change. it's tragic that black lives don't matter in san francisco. racial profiling has to stop now. excessive use of police force in the community against color has to stop. the lack of police accountability has to stop and mass incarceration has to stop. we need to repeal. police officer bill of rights, that shields violent
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cops from prosecution and keeps them on the street. we need to retrain sf p.d.. >> thank you for your comments. next speaker. good evening and welcome. public speaker: good evening, my name is oscar salinas. i represent for alex nieto. i come to represent the family of alex nieto. his father and mother could not be here tonight. we are here again for another murder in the city of san francisco. we are tired of it. you killed our brother alex nieto in march 2014, you killed our brother mark perez this year of february. we are tired. i have seen the training of the police academy. i seen how you deescalate somebody with a knife, why is it not being used? i don't understand that part. we
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are tired of seeing this. we are not going to put with this anymore. and again, i tell you, in the past year 1/2, i myself have learned a lot of legal things and we have legal teams now. we are now right now sf st #r in federal court with greg suhr's officers. you have to answer questions. a few days ago in london there was a man with a knife, a machete, no guns were used to deescalate that. why is that not happening here? there would be less black dead men and latinos in this city if it were not for that. think about it. if it were your child who has some sort of issue that is something you go to, the mental capacity of somebody. you use
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that against alex nieto and you will use that against mario woods again. you cannot do that. you have to sit up here and rethink this. we need new leadership. we have to start from the top. we are done with this. you have made the latino community and black community unified now. we are strong and we will not stop. public speaker: i came mostly to help my daughter speak. she is the future of san francisco and she has a lot to say. they are afraid of the police
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these days. >> hello, my name is ashley. i'm 8 years old. i go to school at diablo. i really wish for police violence to end. police are making rules how they get to do whatever they want though they know murder of african americans are illegal. they should go to prison themselves, right? here is a true story of oscar grant and ten cops surrounded him. one of them shot him at the house and he never came back. it's our chance to win this protest. stick up and it will happen. chief suhr needs to go.
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have a happy vote. >> thank you. next speaker. >> i'm here again tonight. what i hate more than anything where i saw john lennon was shot. guns are something we all have to live with i guess. but in norway there is no guns. we do not need them. i saw john lennon, the first time. the monterey pop festival. he wasn't supposed to be there but he was anyway. i got to see him. and i won't see him again. now,
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as far as violence, i'm always faced with violence on the street. there was a situation where a man was trying to stab somebody on a muni bus and the muni drivers shut the door and the knife was still and so i followed him around. and i got to a meter maid and i said, this guy's got a knife and he's being searched for it right now. he ran up to the meter maid and said this guy is crazy and he's standing there with the knife. the meter maids have nothing to protect themselves with. they need to have a camera so everything is filmed. so if he does use that taser, it is being videoed and there is discretion at what's going on. but we need something other than guns. it's a hard life that we live here. i thank you for being here, you
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know. police have to do the right thing. this is wrong because see that bicycle stood between me and the knife. like they say a shield better than a gun. anything. and to unload the gun, a revolver. at least give some kind of discretion. we need to get rid of. >> thank you, sir. >> public speaker: hello, my name is reginald. i live in the tenderloin. i want to say the way police are handling stuff is deplorable especially in the black community, especially in
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the hispanic community. we have been treated like trash, talked down, looked down upon, thrown at. thrown to the ground and beaten. this man got shot 21 times. now this man had a knife going away from the police. what gives the police the right to think they can move in on him. 21 gun salute? i don't think so. the man there who is backing them all up he is just as corrupt as they are because he's allowing it. he's supposed to be the chief and he's obeying them, not obeying him. he's not the police. he's acting like the police. he's in uniform. we have a problem. we have to stop this nonsense. all of you people sitting behind your desk with all your names
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written down, big deal. when it comes down to it, you are not doing your job either. how should we do it and when we should speak and shut us up when you don't want to hear no more. let me tell you, it is not the end, you are not shutting me up. you are wrong, period. mayor lee is wrong, period. everything is happening to the poor people that should not be happening. guess who is watching you. you might not believe in him but it's jesus. those men's deaths are on your hands. >> thank you, sir.
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>> we want to hear from everyone. next speaker. good evening and welcome. public speaker: first of all i
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would like to say commissioners, if you are typing on your cell phones, we can see it so stop that. second of all i have this from the family that itemize the burial information. >> give it to the secretary. >> i'm going to repeat what everybody else said. the last time i was here with the texting scanned dal. no. 1 release the names of the officer, no. 2, apologize to the mother, totally disrespectful. pay for the funeral. i don't think it's fair to do a firing squad on someone and expect the family to pay for it. it's disgusting. the fourth one is to fire chief suhr. as you can see the community
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has no faith anymore. then we need an independent external investigation in addition to an independent federal investigation. you cannot investigate yourself. and finally i think this is a no brainer, you need to fire the officers that discharged their weapons. training is not going to solve this. we've had problems. i really really encourage you to listen to the community because we are not going to stop. >> thank you. next speaker. public speaker: my name is felicia jones. first i would like to say that it's really sad that these meetings are just routine. and this is not my
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first time for many of the people of the public, this is their first time being at a commission meeting. this is routine. you want to hear from us, but when are we going to be able to have dialogue where we can sit in a room that you first of all would trust us enough to be intelligent enough to carry out dialogue. the second thing is that the whole issue here is bigger than mario woods, and it started way back but i'm going to start in 1982 with the war on drugs as the campaign when it was to criminalize young black men around drugs and the decriminalization of black men. when i watch the video that the only way one can shoot another human being 26 times. i know
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someone is saying 15 times, 16 times. i believe it actually hit his body 26 bñtime. when you look at another human being as being worthless nothing to the world. so, again, you have to begin to say something and have dialogue with the cx communcyy. chief suhr, during the racial text i talked to you and told you that you owed the community an apology and you should have come out to the community and apologized and you never did. until you respect black and brown people we will be here. but i think we are ready to do something else now. i think the people are ready to unite. we can be like the people of chicago. >> thank you for your comments, ma'am. thank you.
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public speaker: robert chew. i'm ashamed the city i have lived at all my life. i didn't expect to walk through a memorial. if this is supposed to be a public meeting to the public to hoping to change, why are we not having it in a bigger location. why is this in a court house. why don't we have it in a place where people can come and speak and have constructive dialogue. i'm not here for that. what i'm here for post pca 32. once i get a copy of the training manual, i would like to know. alex nieto, i was crushed and while i was sitting in a cafe and another person got shot, i knew it wasn't going
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to be justified. i'm not here to attack, i'm saying that maybe pc 32 needs to be updated. most is version 3 and 4. this is absurd. a person with a knife at close range, it would have been a different situation. he got shot by police who are supposed to serve and protect. it doesn't say deescalation on this page at all. i don't know what your deescalation. what i saw when i saw the video when i saw the cafe that night i saw that it was animalistic, the beanbag brought the person down to his knees. why didn't you continue to use the beanbags. he's dead, he's acting disabled. why don't we shoot more bean
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bags. know, let's rifrt to guns. in england, they did not use guns. >> good evening, welcome. public speaker: my name is james. first i want to say thank you for taking public comment and
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sticking with our democratic process that we have here. i know it's difficult for you . last week, i watched two disturbing videos. the first was a cellphone video of mario woods being shot and killed by a group of sfpd officers while standing against the wall. the second was even more disturbing and the reason that i'm here tonight. in the video i watched chief suhr only hours after the shooting explain how the officers involved have followed procedure which justified the killing. and that saddened me, that angered me. the grotesque comedy of those two videos makes it very clear that the entire system is brought to the
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core. and i call on you, the police commission to act. you are an integral part of that system that killed mario. you have the power to fix it. you heard the community demands here tonight and i urge you to listen to them, take them seriously and do something because if you don't, the blood of sfpd's next victim will be on your hands. thank you. public speaker: good evening, i'm pastor mcneil of the baptist church. i'm here tonight to speak on the behalf of justice for mario woods. last year we met with the
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police commission during the ferguson incident. at that time chief suhr assured us that san francisco would not be a ferguson. that was last august. that was when michael brown was murdered by a police officer while unarmed. now, we have a killing in san francisco by police of a young man with a steak knife. lethal force for a minor incident. and tasers are not the answer. i'm a retired peace officer, 30 years. worked as parole agent. carried a weapon. first we had the 38 and 9-millimeter, automatic. in 30 years i never had to shoot or pull a weapon on any of my
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felons. i worked with some police officers that were rogue officers and i had to sometimes intervene. i know that's not good as a peace officer. but we have to take vicarious responsibilities as leaders. if we have people that are working for us, that are in violation, we need to just let the facts fall and let the results be justice. right is right and wrong is wrong. we need new leadership. thank you. >> sir, may i ask you a question. just as a follow up. you said there were times when you had to intervene? >> yes, sir. >> can you tell me the nature of that intervention? >> at the time we intervened we
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had to arrest suspects and some of the officers were overly aggressive and one incident where the officer took his pistol and he took it to his ear and he said breathe mother -- if -- i'm not going to let you put my job in jeopardy nor am i going to sit by and by the way, the officer just by chance were white and the victims were black. >> you did that as an officer intervening with another officer? >> yes, sir. >> thank you. >> yes, sir, not once, but a few times. 30 years. yes, sir. >> thank you.
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public speaker: good evening. my name is reverend daniel -- i'm standing here at the birthplace of the united nations and 70 years after the birth of the united nations you have committed a grave human rights violation. where some might call what happened last week an officer involved shooting, the international community through the united nations would call that an execution and arbitrary punishment and judicial killing. i know tasers are seen as non-lethal alternative. this is a fantasy and a lie. let me read to you a search i did called taser used on genitals. cop shoots six times with taser
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on genitals. taser manufactures recommend use on genitals. man tasers in genitals by police and cops burn genital tasers in front of family. police sodomize man with taser. it says to aim lower because you won't shoot him in the heart and they won't go into cardiac arrest and if you do it in the penis, it's going to sterilize anyone of you all there. that's a human rights violation. i'm not going to ask you to resign. that's up to your constituents to do
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that. the taser is not a panacea because there is ample evidence and investigation shows that cops torture you are with a taser, kill with a taser and if that doesn't work they will shoot him with a real gun. thank you. public speaker: good evening. my name is elizabeth young. i grew up in a white and black and international neighborhood. let me tell you i learned at a very very young age never to trust the police. the police in my city as now here in
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san francisco killed six african american males including a six-year-old boy who they said stop and he got scared and ran. all of these people were unarmed. i have no trustor confidence in any police force in the united states of america. i do not. the only way i might become friendly to the police if they are unarmed, if they live in the neighborhoods that they are supposed to police and that they earn the same amount of money that the people do who live in their neighborhoods. the san francisco police force, police officers over $100,000 a year who do not have to live in the city. that is a crime against the citizens of this city who work blood sweat and tears to build this town to make communities, to raise their children to take care of their elderly. it's a crime against
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humanity. these people have to go. they have to be unarmed and of course greg suhr, you have no right to represent anybody in this city. you should resign. at least should resign. you all should resign. >> thank you. public speaker: i forgot to ask you a question. in the video i saw, there was a young lady bleeding to him. i'm not wore eed about her video but her whereabouts, does the police know where she was that was asking him. did she get shot by bullets. was anyone else injured at that time. you are not going to respond. i understand. fyi, like we said
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clearly before, with mental health, you need training. everybody needs training to deal with a lot of situations. like i said i am very concerned about where that lady is. i feel like she's being a secret at this point in time. once again, i said i'm not worried about her video but she was so close to that situation and i'm worried about her whereabouts. >> thank you. next speaker. public speaker: my name is brad shapen. i was born and raised in iowa, moved to boston for graduate school in clinical psychology. i have been lucky to be around mental health professionals doing a lot of amazing research around bias, racism, home ophobia,
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transphobia and violence. in san francisco and the united states we have a fundamental understanding of what to do with anger. i also think we have a fundamental misunderstanding of what racism is. i don't know if anyone up here can answer a question, but can i ask you what racism means to you? you can't answer questions. >> yeah, it's the rules. >> okay. can i also ask, i guess it's a rhetorical question. why the police department is not working in an evidence based manner in a city that has some of the most famous clinical psychologist and researchers who understand what to do with anger. there are black and brown
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researchers who would love to have a conversation with you in clinical psychology who can also help out. can someone contact those people, will they be contacting those people? >> if you want information with the mental health working group, there is a group of clinicians in san francisco and the number of folks who do that work. >> i think we need to be consulting with them a little bit more. >> thank you. next speaker. good evening and welcome. public speaker: hello, my name is nani clay. a community organizer and former vice-president for the lgbt democratic club. the reason i'm former vp for political affairs is because we
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had a disagreement. my board thought that our progressive sheriff shouldn't be sheriff again. now, i stood up and i stood with the people and i shouted and i yelled and screamed and blacked out on everybody. right now, you've got the people standing outside of that door and we need to be heard. i'm not naive enough to believe that me standing here or anyone of us given 2 minutes of comments is going to solve the problem. but these are dark time s for san francisco. we need law enforcement reform. not just one officer, one chief, we need total law enforcement reform. we need to look at not only training, but also accountability and transparency. i echo what everyone said in terms of
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what their demands are but pretending the system is going to work is a real problem. everyone should be very uncomfortable right now because we come to the moment where we are forced another day to see another black man shot and killed. we can't do this anymore. we can't keep coming here and pretending that it's working. it's not working. and i urge everyone here to please pay attention and i want you to know that we were shouting out there because we have to because we are desperate and we will stop shouting when you stop shooting. public speaker: i live in the mission and i have seen plenty of police brutality. i'm with the
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coalition. i want to say first that greg suhr, you need to resign and so does mayor lee because i have been too many times before you in hearings like this and the rest of the commission to talk among hundreds of people to demand justice and nothing happens and federal investigation after federal investigation takes place and of course there is human rights violation but no cop ever goes to prison. the only change was ferguson and i was there for two weekends and i also got shot by a rubber bullet. in ferguson 3 hours before curfew and we were brutally beaten and fired with hundreds of rubber bullets and teargas for peacefully fighting and the people were fighting for months there and started to break up this whole
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epidemic crisis murder of klu klux klan by cops in the country and san francisco. the others that worked for us is the investigators in chicago, the two independent journalist who have released that video and exposed the mayor and police chief that was fired and we are not done either. i will say this, fire chief suhr and ed lee, you need to step down. that man was trapped and he was walking forward and that cop stepped in front of him and gunned him down. he had no way to get away from you all. >> thank you, next speaker. good evening and welcome. public speaker: first of all let me say the reason i'm in this get
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up because i'm deathly afraid of police and i'm a white person. i have post traumatic stress disorder and i get money from the government for it. okay. let me tell you something, you see how white i am. i was on the news the other morning at this gentlemen's church. i live in a very affluent white community where there are no black people. i was asked by my boss why was i there? that's another reason why i'm in this costume. i don't want to lose my job because i live in such a racist community burling game california. i'm 6 years out of the system, okay. i used to hang out in oakland at the silver dollar hotel, i was a
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crack head whore. i never got in trouble. i used to have a bb gun and i walked around and saying i was going to kill everybody. i was drunk. i never got shot. when i was in jail for three felonies, i had a firearm, they merely walked in and put handcuffs on me and didn't ask me where the gun was until they put me in the squad car, until they said ms. where is the gun? i didn't get shot or man handled. i have survivors guilt. i'm tired of turning on my social media and seeing lynching. get the [bleep] out of here. they are doing what they are doing to the palestinians putting
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knives on people, pulling guns. get out of israel. this is damn terrorism. >> thank you, ma'am. can we let others speak. public speaker: good evening, commissioners. this is very different than the last time when i was here. i'm reflecting back on when the young people played the video for you
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and i don't know if you remember the video said at the beginning, before it started it said something to the effect that the police are the largest gang in the city, right? and i think that it's easy to get kind of caught up in group things and the conversation around what is a gang and what a gang looks like. i'm just hoping as we go through all of this and you are able to move beyond public comment and move into conversations around use of force and that we don't forget that there are still other issues and things that need to be happening and that we remember that there are parallel paths that need to be happening and definitely things that need to happen immediately and conversation about long-term. i want to make sure that we do all of this because tonight was crazy in
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the hall way and the ability to get folks in and that we don't forget the voice of young people and we don't forget who don't always get their voices heard. people come on their behalf and always come to say what's happening and the folks living it don't get their voices heard. as you move forward that you don't forget about the young people that already came before you and the recommendations because i don't know if you remember that they actually asked and were having conversations with you about deescalation. they couldn't find the word "deescalation" but they were saying, what can we dough and we need to make sure to empower the young people. >> thank you, ms. davis. next speaker. public speaker:
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hello, i'm probably the youngest at this mic. i'm 15 years old. every child is born blind. you are taught to hate. you are not born to hate. i see my skin color, i feel it. you can look at me how you want to. i feel this pressure everyday. i go to the store i get followed. i'm only 15 to see this injustice in these streets, my brothers, uncle, everybody died in this street from sfpd. i lost an uncle. i was 1 years old. my mom came crying with blood on her shirt. my uncle got shot. seven bullets in his chest, one to his head. as a one-year-old when you see that, it's not easy to forget that. i'm only 15.
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i'm the next generation. for you all to hear it from me, look to me in my face. you don't have the same color as me. i'm going to leave it at that. >> that was my student. mario was, let me correct that, was my coworker's cousin. she saw the video and mom saw the video before they even now that was their relative. imagine how heartbreaking it was to find that out. alex nieto was my former student's brother. my other student was shot and killed running q[qçqçq[q[q[q[q[q[from x
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i'm only 40 years old. that is way too many. there is not enough room on the sidewalk for all xexexethe name if mario would have been me, i would have been alive. that's the bottom line. if i was holding that knife, i would be an alive. that's the problem. black lives does not matter, but it does. but this society continues to show us that it doesn't because trust, if that would have happen to people identified as jewish as myself, this would have been over. this has been happening for hundreds of year. if you don't understand where the rage comes from, it's time to read the history books. some of you know it because it's part of your history. this has been passing since before the middle passage overseer officer, maybe
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listen to it. police are the terrorist right now. they are terrorizing and they have been black and brown communities. it's got to stop. so how? good evening and welcome. >> public speaker: good evening, i work with the antipolice terror project. i was born in this city and disgusted by what is going on right now. i want to talk to you about two things, terrorism and training. greg suhr is going to show that you video and you all watched it. he's going to tell you in that video that you see officers afraid for their life. he's going to tell you in the video that you see someone refusing to cooperate and they are doing this according to training. this is incompatible. someone who is scared to the core of their
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training. the only person terrorized is mario wood. the officers in a firing line. that is training. they are trained to do that. they act according to the training that greg suhr gave them like he gave them their diplomas. that's a firing squad. you are going to tell me someone is scared, aiming at a man shot with a beanbag. terror. who is the terror izer. people that -- terrorize do
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