tv Transportation Authority Plans and Programs Committee 11216 SFGTV January 15, 2016 7:05pm-8:01pm PST
remember riding the 49 since for as long as i can remember riding it through high school and giving up on the 49 and at the same time joined the advisory committee overseeing the environmental review of the project the proposal before you concerns the historic light poles and the trees i'm asking that this appeal not be continued and to deny appeal and uphold the co-payments for the van ness brt project in the civic center neighborhood the light poles i understand preservation commission i love the historic architecture unfortunately, the poles are in really bad condition that is at van ness and hate my bad - show
the projector please. overhead please. sorry about that you can see a chunk there's a chunk of concrete that has fallen off the pole that could be a safety hazard and cause thousand if not millions of dollars in damages and which is why i ask the poles should be removed the best conditioned poles should be considered for preservation like the western the trolley museum and mariposa and the trees are a danger to the corridor and, of course, putting the busses in the city center that was once in the center and improve for transit rider thank you guys.
>> thank you. next speaker, please. >> overhead. >> hi, i'm joel i teach history and very concerned about preservation i have a photo here that shows the kind of tree that london playing tree that resists pollution and i wanted to know whether this too a threatened on key building in the van ness avenue and plaza i don't know if the commission has considered preserving this tree most importantly i think from hearing the testimony tonight there's a question of preserving the historic ornament or so architecture that is being raise in response to a need for more speed in the city that is modernized and seems willing to
sacrifice it's history and historic architecture for two minutes of speed people need to get from one end of the street to another and seems like millions of and millions of of dollars in order to do this this commission as i understand asked to preserve the history of our city and architecture i would hope you'll consider ways to do that by perhaps restores these lamp poles and keeping them in some sort shape continue the hearing for the questions of preserving the city's history and architecture thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> commissioners i'm a resident
the north of market planning area around here that includes the civic center from van ness to powell starting on haven to powell most of this area is half of it is in the north of market planning area if you look at this building and the room we're in right now we have the older historical lights they're wonderful and beautiful and the modern lights at the work together and you know this building is a really wonderful thing it exists people about government and you've got explosion of parliamentary democracy that is what the historical eliminates elements we're asking for i personally am in the asking for stop the bvrt i appreciate that brt project in the neighborhood
we had a probable cause with the geary and slow mobility impaired people to this day only one bus stop between van ness and polk street and people that get off and wanted to transfer to van ness have to walk up the hill that is one of the bus stops we would like to get back we were able to save with an we had problems with the mta with the not seeing the fine points of the neighborhood. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> overhead please. good evening, commissioners board members i'm case in chief i live on state street and work and civic center i'm a big fan of muni i use that almost everyday thank you for the opportunity to ask you modify
the certificate of appropriateness so the important landmark maybe get an appropriate analysis before they're removed and lost from the city forever in particular the mooend trees and historical lamp poles be set aside and engage the community in order to seek a solution that improves transit and the trees we treasure for future generations the brt project as a gap no fund to address the historic awhile this city is celebrating the panama canal to provide access have survived until today and they establish the trolley poles as a new world center and pride of the city in recovering from the 1906 san francisco earthquake since a half a
century ago the city planned many trees and staffs analyze those are cultural aspects of the city the trees are not necessarily the means but over decades the feinstein historic district for the heritage row my question does san francisco wish to preserve i want to show you some of the trees those trees are going those trees are going those are looking down at the - these are right front us those trees are skeleton to be removed my question does san francisco wish to preserve this as a demonstration of the appreciation and pride in the city for future generations. >> is there any additional public comment? >> seeing none, we'll have our reliable starting with the
appellant. >> okay. so there's a lot been said about the bart project we're talking about the historic or i'm addressing the historic district what we're going to do to preserve the historic district and the lamp poles can be fixed as i ask for about if i can have a tubs to bring the solution i have brainstorm solution this gentleman can absolutely restore within budget maintain those lamp poflts i like the opportunities to present that to you so to please allow that to happen because you have not yielded seen the solution yet i don't think the historic preservation commission has
received the solutions that can be made for the trolley poles the trolley poles and lamps within the historic district can share the same purpose we don't need separate modern lights but of we end up doing that i actually wanted to work with the sfmta and the planning commission on the factors this is not an either or one side or the other yes. the median fence that is between city hall and the opera house is gorgeous and matches the gate there must be a way to preserve that. >> did you participate in the harvey milk club. >> i was not at the 18 meeting. >> have you had discussions with the lighting expert.
>> that's a roanoke city council root of my question this is has been going on for a long time i. >> i didn't know until the orange notices were put on the trees in august i jumped out of my car and came to the very first meeting he missed the november 18th meeting i wish i had been there this is my first participation in shame fully in trying to make something happen in the city preserving something. >> seems to me on the length of time this is not a super ceqa project they have been disclosures and time. >> you know, what. >> it mystifies me that a
continuance is being asked when it is going on for a long time and no solutions any solutions or alternatives were prepared. >> i did not even know i needed to file an appeal until like a day or two before i filed the appeal in december then it was christmas vacation i had one today day by day to put the briefing together i have had to earn a living i've had to do that and earn a living not easy to do that i have to stand in. >> of people they have to sacrifice a lot to do it i'll hope you'll forgive if you had of been here tonight you'll hear wonderful proposals. >> we'll hear in the mta.
>> thank you for the opportunity i want to restates the existing lighting standards don't provide equality street lighting for the cars or lighting for the pedestrians the new lighting light poles have been presented to the aortas commission and to the historic preservation commission as part of our package that was approved we're including 0 modernize the update lighting on more than poles with the addition of pedestrian level lighting on the situations overall an improvement a discussion with the historic preservation commission staff and is arts commission about doing a separate treatment for the historic district ask you decided we were not going to do something fully historic and better off tying the van ness corridor with one residential
design team that's one of the reasons the layers cut railing in the historic district but every new brt stop again to provide a common design theme that ties the corridor together the new pedestrian lighting will help with the safety, the existing lights as i said are in poor condition and difficult to maintain i want to emphasize the concrete poles that have concrete missing are an important early warning sign that is following is being caused by the last hundred years water has infiltrated into the poles and causing them to expand it pops the concrete off of them it is difficult to find out what pole is in good and bad shape
right now it is a small fraction but only going to get worse which is why the department of public works say they be replaced over a period of time one other detail your honor, asked about the lighting poles there are single poles that do both functions the poles are one hundred years old but the light fixtures from a complete different generation and that's what i've got we request that the preservation commission certificate of appropriateness be upheld and it is. >> this may be a side question but there are in our plans
related to the sidewalk in front of city hall you show stormwater planters are those existing are new. >> those are new i mentioned in any preparedness or presentation had a lot of information we did a lot of urban designs and puc is pitting if a whole new source. >> - >> i remember hearing that. >> in is green infrastructure. >> i understand that two now those are the only ones your installing. >> there are a pair in front of the city hall i think maybe another set in the historic district but only part of the project. >> does this project have to conform to the city's mandated ordinance. >> to the enlivening. >> what was your question. >> does this project have to conform to the city's mandated
ordinance on san francisco entertainment commission. >> yes. i believe it does. >> so handle that with only a few planters. >> we're also as part of project installing new twin installments and increasing the overall green space in the corridor part of the construction of median increasing the total you number of trees and the - we're making improvements as well as handling san francisco entertainment commission in the corridor. >> a question i may have misread i thought you were replacing the trees with the same species. >> with a similar species. >> their silver directing and flowering gun what is there instead. >> it is a lemon good morning trees another species of good
morning trees. >> it will ultimately look like the ones being replaced. >> excuse me. >> the trees were selected chosen to maintain the character of the corridor especially the median as much as possible and i believe the good news have are going to be taller the existing trees improvements city hall in part we'll run the trolley lines in the center of the street and the trees will grow up and over the trolley lines not into them. >> are those columbia type trees. >> no. >> this is one of the landscape architects. >> no there will be a large canopy. >> what size are you putting in. >> 36 inch box trees they're quickly growing within 5 years they'll be fairly large. >> above the transit line.
>> they'll start growing over the transit lines in 57 to 10 years. >> state your name for the record. >> i'm tony with public works. >> thank you. >> and then - go ahead. >> are the eucalyptus going into the center how were they chosen. >> indians is that the lemon good news are part of the species of eucalyptus an extensive tree process mta worked with public works and city's arborist to take a species that could avoid the overhead lines and you may be understand how the north south winds. >> in the block yeah. >> and survive the amount of
automobile pollution. >> do those trees shed or drop as much stuff as a standard eucalyptus. >> i'll refer to the architect. >> it will shed some leaves not more than what is shed out. >> i think the eucalyptus drops something else besides leaves. >> no. those will not - only the leaves year-round. >> thank you. >> i forgot to mention drought tolerance was another primary consideration. >> thank you. >> okay reliable from hpc. >> oh, you have questions. >> no sorry please. i have a question do we have anyone in the urban
forestry here. >> i don't not that i'm aware of this gentleman is representing. >> none from urban forest is here but through the tree selection process and identifying which trees their engaged and work with the urban forestry council on selecting the trees. >> i'm asking general when we have a tree case their usual here and now they're not (laughter) and let me ask this question first the certificate of appropriateness this probable addressed to our attorney is. >> so we engage them. >> go ahead finish our comment. >> for the removal prim this is not for the removal permit. >> this the or is only recommend to the hpc certificate
of appropriateness for that portion the project that goes through the civic center it doesn't maybe it might but does necessarily apply to the vast majority; right? >> that's correct. >> so we'll be seeing more. >> i said to clarify because everyone's is tubbing some are talking about the entire system and more specific of this district. >> yes. we're also going through a tree removal permitting process so we will likely be back here discussing the trespassed along the regulate of the corridor as part that hav
process. >> kathy again, the appellant will have the opportunity to weigh in on the treatment of four trolley poles to remain in the district we welcome they are participation in defining the treatment for the trolley poles i wanted to expand on the alternates we considered and rejected the one was to reconstruct the trolley poles because of the poor conditions we construction will be required for more of them within the district but even reconstructed and retrieved with a hire qualified of lighting two short to carry the trolley poles octavia boulevard wires that resulted in the need of adjacent pole which is why that alternative was rejected we also considered removing the trolley poles but represent cat their
design at a taller height we studied that their proportions of the trolley pole were a bit absorb looking because of the reusing the left to right would be too small at the height that it would need to be so it was rejected aesthetically it didn't match the aesthetics of the trolley poles and misinformation given are questions about contributing features during the public comment period the median fence it does match at memorial court but the district is the not considered a contributing feature as well as the sidewalk resolution are not considered contributing features planned after the period of significance so the new sidewalk trees with were only considered and the
character of the district. >> can you explain that period of significance i mean the department now treats any structure in excess of 45 years as a possible and requires a salutation without doing anything to it you're saying the period the significance stopped in 1951 respect. >> yes. i can definitely clarify that point for the purposes of environmental review we review the properties structures over 45 years old they're on the innovate register and evaluate them not everything is significant or meets the criteria for this but part of environmental review for this project all structures that would be impacted by the project
were evaluated for significance the planning department decided to inventory all the features the landmark district because we have 3 designations a national register and california register and the local designation to make things confusing the designations have different boundary and indirect the district definitely to so the question whether it is important in the district. >> what is not we contracted the inventory that was completed in november and we that has created a comprehensive list adopted by the historic preservation commission of all the important features and it defines the period of time of significance the era during the historical important events or architectural structures or
buildings that were added to the historic district so those events and construction dates define the period of significance and it begins in 1896 i belive the original mr. larkin for this civic center district and ends in 1951 i'm sorry i can't remember what events marks the 1951 as the end the period of significance established in the inventory. >> don't you have to stash as part of your application for listing on the federal register. >> that's correct each of the 3 designations had different periods of significance listed as well as features as a intent to consolidate it into one document and research the events that were considered as historically significant and establish one all income period
of significance and right. i remember an inventory done for the civic center for the historic district the first time did it vary between that inventory versus our more current inventory? >> tim frye was telling me during the local designation of the historic district it wasn't listed architectural features created but didn't include all the landscaper landscape and this includes both building structures and objects within a building. >> it only had the building - >> that's correct. >> okay. >> commissioners, the matter
is submitted. >> i'm sorry we're finished with that one thank you. >> i like those poles i'll start. >> okay. please do. >> i like those poles as well as someone to the public traveling on the 47 to high school i did the same thing all the way down the 19 or 47 and potentially the 2 two or thre 8 i think that seeing the sparesness until the trees come in is going to be quiet shocking to be honest we're in charge of
pretty much this board handles all the tree affairs we've become the tree board and at which point we're tough to let trees come down on the board there has to be something extremely, extremely tree must be diseased or in fear of causing death are harm a 33 degree angle not letting them take them down in front of the house i'll see what my fellow commissioners have to say but i think as i said seeing the non-tree lined street and what i consider significant i was looking at those poles when the day after moscone was shot and when the city was awe blaze and police cars were like barbecue pits it brings back a lot i was
i'm not bothered by the renewal herepobable reaching their life - i'm not bothered by the renewal hererobable reaching the - i'm not bothered by the renewal here the - perhaps a personal note or subscription i'll bothered a little bit by the the approach with respect to the what's called the cultural landscape other things within that district i'm not talking about the other mine portion of the thought track i think that van ness is a diversifies thoroughfa
- she was envisioning van ness as the eloquent housing place for the city you know most of it has changed substantially in terms of new condos with their particular look it is popper those days a quite a few of the historic structures that create a blend on most of van ness and that creates for me a call back and a desire to see the other trolley poles saved, however, i understand that is not necessarily in front of us it is purely a personal suggestion on my part that the nice defines and the historical nature it find this difficult to understand why the city that
forces other people to save things of vastly less significance the but on the opposite side within the civic center design excuse me. civic center historical district by way of you know we were the ones who enacted that the first historical district in san francisco and quite different in terms of process to get it enacted there is a nature of it i think that wants to have some flexibility in terms of meddling that was decides when the main library was redondo and doesn't have to be a republic indication
of that but i find that on a perm personal note the elements of design especially at the streetscape level within that district portion of van ness i would have liked to seen something for about contextual not a republic indication interesting to recall certain elements that made the district what it is historically but i understand where my charge is here the four trolley poles are under a separate thing whether it gets appealed i'm not sure hopefully, the fact that you know funds are going to be expended and get the repairs permit and artifact may changes
whether or not there are appeals on those four i'll probable back off on the shelters i understand their clear channel shelters a bad mistake on the part of city for those elements and in fact, i have to take some of the blame and so i'm prepared to back off on what i was leaning towards to not accept the or excuse me. to add a couple of conditions to it. >> i think the the historical nature the van ness planning was what it was trolley cars down the middle something that caused that to change illegal i think
it was for a buck unfortunately so we, in fact, by going back to the plan as that is we're returning to the historic intention of van ness so with that, the tree issue i think again, i trust that the arborist and trust that the friends of urban forest are making the right decision because i've come to learn if our endorser if they didn't like something he said be here imblorg us 0 make a change i'm sorry that we are losing our trolley poles and but i ask it
makes me wonder if there's an alternative this is so - such such a long time in coming why not an alternative this is vetted the arts commission who i have a relative that is a chair and sat on that for years their extreme in maintaining the appropriate nature of arts and culture in the city and anyone come up with they'll come up with alternatives they've vetted it is okay. the historic preservation commission has brought it to this .0 so i'm comfortable that proper vetting has been can you think and comfortable alternatives were looked at this of the the original scheme meant to be at
least in the contemporary more than fashion on van ness corridor so i'm prepared to move for to support the appropriateness of the decision of the commission >> you care to make a motion i look to commissioner fung to deter a motion commissioner fung. >> has to be a fairly detailed one. >> i can help with the details i need to know where the motion is headed. >> the motion would be i would ask commissioner fung because again, he does this better than i do to raise a motion in support the findings the go historic preservation commission and is appropriatesness. >> the motion to deny and find
that the certificate of appropriateness was a appropriately done and . >> and finding recommended or relayed to the final eir perhaps the direction can help us. >> commissioner fung to deny the appeal and uphold the certificate of appropriateness that was appropriately issued and i and on the basis i'll read belief read into the record the environmental review on december 2013, the administration has a record for the van ness bus rapid transit project determine the requirements the virtual policy has been made to the document process that's exactly what he said. >> so is that your motion commission. >> yes, ma'am.
>> on that motion commissioner president lazarus. >> commissioner honda no. >> commissioner swig so that motion does carry with a vote of 3 to one and sxhudz there's no further business. >> we're adjourned >> hi today we have a special edition of building san francisco, stay safe, what we are going to be talking about san francisco's earth quakes, what you can do before an earthquake in your home, to be ready and after an earthquake
to make sure that you are comfortable staying at home, while the city recovers. ♪ >> the next episode of stay safe, we have alicia johnson from san francisco's department of emergency management. hi, alicia thanks to coming >> it is a pleasure to be here with you. >> i wonder if you could tell us what you think people can do to get ready for what we know is a coming earthquake in san francisco. >> well, one of the most things that people can do is to make sure that you have a plan to communicate with people who live both in and out of state. having an out of state contact, to call, text or post on your social network is really important and being able to know how you are going to communicate with your friends, and family who live near you, where you might meet them if
your home is uninhab hitable. >> how long do you think that it will be before things are restored to normal in san francisco. >> it depends on the severity of the earthquake, we say to provide for 72 hours tha, is three days, and it helps to know that you might be without services for up to a week or more, depending on how heavy the shaking is and how many after shocks we have. >> what kind of neighborhood and community involvement might you want to have before an earthquake to make sure that you are going to able to have the support that you need. >> it is important to have a good relationship with your neighbors and your community. go to those community events, shop at local businesses, have a reciprocal relationship with them so that you know how to take care of yourself and who you can rely on and who can take care of you. it is important to have a battery-operated radio in your home so that you can keep track of what is happening in the community around and how you can communicate with other
people. >> one of the things that seems important is to have access to your important documents. >> yes, it is important to have copies of those and also stored them remotely. so a title to a home, a passport, a driver's license, any type of medical records that you need need, back those up or put them on a remote drive or store them on the cloud, the same is true with any vital information on your computer. back that up and have that on a cloud in case your hard drive does not work any more. >> in your home you should be prepared as well. >> absolutely. >> let's take a look at the kinds of things that you might want to have in your home. >> we have no water, what are we going to do about water? >> it is important for have extra water in your house, you want to have bottled water or a five gallon container of water able to use on a regular basis, both for bathing and cooking as well as for drinking. >> we have this big container and also in people's homes they
have a hot water heater. >> absolutely, if you clean your hot water heater out regularly you can use that for showering, drinking and bathing as well >> what other things do people need to have aren't their home. >> it is important to have extra every day items buy a couple extra cans of can food that you can eat without any preparation. >> here is a giant can of green giant canned corn. and this, a manual can opener, your electric can opener will not be working not only to have one but to know where to find it in your kitchen. >> yes. >> so in addition to canned goods, we are going to have fresh food and you have to preserve that and i know that we have an ice chest. >> having an ice chest on hand is really important because your refrigerator will not be working right away. it is important to have somebody else that can store cold foods so something that you might be able to take with you if you have to leave your
home. >> and here, this is my very own personal emergency supply box for my house. >> i hope that you have an alternative one at home. >> oh, i forgot. >> and in this is really important, you should have flashlights that have batteries, fresh batteries or hand crank flashlight. >> i have them right here. >> good. excellent. that is great. additionally, you are going to want to have candles a whistle, possibly a compass as well. markers if you want to label things if you need to, to people that you are safe in your home or that you have left your home. >> i am okay and i will meet you at... >> exactly. exactly. water proof matches are a great thing to have as well. >> we have matches here. and my spare glasses. >> and your spare glasses. >> if you have medication, you should keep it with you or have access to it. if it needs to be refrigerated make sure that it is in your
ice box. >> inside, just to point out for you, we have spare batteries. >> very important. >> we have a little first aid kit. >> and lots of different kinds of batteries. and another spare flashlight. >> so, alicia what else can we do to prepare our homes for an earthquake so we don't have damage? >> one of the most important things that you can do is to secure your valuable and breakable items. make sure that your tv is strapped down to your entertainment cabinet or wall so it does not move. also important is to make sure that your book case is secure to the wall so that it does not fall over and your valuable and breakables do not break on the ground. becoming prepared is not that difficult. taking care of your home, making sure that you have a few extra every-day items on hand helps to make the difference. >> that contributes dramatically to the way that the city as a whole can recover. >> absolutely. >> if you are able to control your own environment and house
and recovery and your neighbors are doing the same the city as a whole will be a more resilient city. >> we are all proud of living in san francisco and being prepared helps us stay here. >> so, thank you so much for joining us today, alicia, i appreciate it. >> absolutely, it is my pleasure. >> and thank you for joining us on another edition of building >> here we are at the embarcadero. we are standing at one of locations for the street artists. can you tell me about this particular location, the program? >> this location is very significant. this was the very first and only location granted by the board of supervisors for the street artist when the program began in
1972. how does a person become a street artist? there are two major tenants. you must make the work yourself and you must sell the work yourself. a street artist, the license, then submitting the work to a committee of artists. this committee actually watches them make the work in front of them so that we can verify that it is all their own work. >> what happened during the holiday to make this an exciting location? >> this would be a magic time of year. you would probably see this place is jammed with street artists. as the no, there is a lottery held at 6 in the morning. that is how sought after the spaces are. you might get as many as 150 street artists to show up for 50 spaces.
>> what other areas can a licensed street artist go to? >> they can go to the fisherman's wharf area. they can go in and around union square. we have space is now up in the castro, in fact. >> how many are there? >> we have about 420. >> are they here all year round? >> out of the 420, i know 150 to sell all year round. i mean like five-seven days a week. >> are they making their living of of this? >> this is their sole source of income for many. >> how long have you been with this program. how much has it changed? >> i have been with the program since it began 37 and a half years ago but i have seen changes in the trend. fashion comes and goes. >> i think that you can still
find plenty of titis perhaps. >> this is because the 60's is retro for a lot of people. i have seen that come back, yes. >> people still think of this city as the birth of that movement. great, thank you for talking about the background of the program. i'm excited to go shopping. >> i would like you to meet two street artists. this is linda and jeremy. >> night said to me to print them -- nice to meet you. >> can you talk to me about a variety of products that use cell? >> we have these lovely
constructed platters. we make these wonderful powder bowls. they can have a lot of color. >> york also using your license. -- you are also using your license. >> this means that i can register with the city. this makes sure that our family participated in making all of these. >> this comes by licensed artists. the person selling it is the person that made it. there is nothing better than the people that made it. >> i would like you to meet michael johnson. he has been in the program for over 8 years. >> nice to me you.
what inspired your photography? >> i am inspired everything that i see. the greatest thing about being a photographer is being able to show other people what i see. i have mostly worked in cuba and work that i shot here in san francisco. >> what is it about being a street artist that you particularly like? >> i liked it to the first day that i did it. i like talking to mentum people. talking about art or anything that comes to our minds. there is more visibility than i would see in any store front. this would cost us relatively very little. >> i am so happy to meet you. i wish you all of the best.
>> you are the wonderful artist that makes these color coding. >> nice to me to. >> i have been a street artist since 1976. >> how did you decide to be a street artist? >> i was working on union square. on lunch hours, i would be there visiting the artist. it was interesting, exciting, and i have a creative streak in me. it ranges from t-shirts, jackets, hats. what is the day of the life of a street artist? >> they have their 2536 in the morning. by the end of the day, the last people to pack the vehicle probably get on their own at 7:30 at night.
>> nice to me to condemn the -- nice to meet you. >> it was a pleasure to share this with you. i hope that the bay area will descend upon the plaza and go through these arts and crafts and by some holiday gifts. >> that would be amazing. thank you so much for the hard work that you do. thursday, january 14, 201
thursday, january 14, 2016,thursday, january 14, state your name for the record. i'd like to call roll at this time. commissioner president fong commissioner wu commissioner antonini commissioner hillis commissioner johnson commissioner moore commissioner richards commissioners, the first item on your agenda is consideration of items proposed for continuance item one requirement for certain restrictions on units it has been withdrawn as item 2 requirement for certain restrictions on certain dwelling units has also been withdrawn oh, excuse me. further under our discretionary review authorization calendar i'm pleased to noumgs item