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issues that were laid out we need you all to help to push for community choices programs for a certain number of years to adjust to the standards 5 years the small ones we feed to make sure that rooftop solar panes are included in the ab 1110 is written that won't be you'll right the green house gas emissions on this bill we are heard relevance from assembly member tong i'll not adopt those improvements and finally something that is important we've not spoken about before i sent an e-mail to this effect on those points this bill is supposed to be about properly accounting for green house gas emissions and after we've seen the porter rather than explosion the clear evidence that the
nightly are gas because of loopholes is just as bad as coal we need a champion bill to this bill to improve this bill didn't account for the needs and thes and any of the incident releases from natural gas that the 21st century for the porter rather than not acceptable we need more you to push for a bill that counts for all the natural gas. >> thank you. >> can i make a comment so if we could get something from staff about just a fact sheet about ab one one one 0 i think it will go a long ways to navigate not as a body but singularly i'll make that
motion. >> thank you commissioner president vietor jeff if 350 sf wanted to make a comment on the super complicated bill not trying to get into the details i know that eric for submitting it this letter comes from work from the ends of last session when the bill was put on to your status but look at the argument i think that is really problematic the problem is trying to solve the real problem our staff acknowledged the way this is being handled really smacks of an underhanded move to us as you may know we had to fight a local ballot measure proposition h we did succeed in but the point was to essentially gain how clean power could
market it's energy and essentially the exact same parties who put together prop g together and made prop h necessary working with assembly member tilly chang this is aside from use it is especially unclear san francisco has the newest refresh it bill that impacts the green house gas reporting not only be supported by our assembly member but put forward by our own assembly member without the city and counties position being accurately recommend no sacramento i'll argue grateful for the puc to continue to work with the assembly members office he's not been receptive to our concerns if it bill move forward it needs to not only not further
damage the future perspectives of cleanpowersf but protect and defend them one more problem which the letter mentioned i'll highlight is this is really combining green house gas with rp s compliance with it is famously and removing the certificates it is spate as being generated we're already getting out into the weeds trying to talk about it ultimately if we want to have rooftop solar the city we want that to count as clean and green house gas free like it is we fought prop g and h that bill essentially caused by another means the reporting problems to occur and needs to be substantially all the time before we support it thanks.
>> jason fried executive director for lafco last year lafco left the amended position on ash 1110 for the reasons i'll not repeat today one of the things i nodded i think your staff is correct the biggest short time issue how it effects the po u but i could see how this future impacts it i don't see that the acknowledgement a factor at least in the resolution the whereas mentions cca to make sure we have a system in place that impacts that lets say we want to build out a wind farm are solar system and create a whole bunch of jobs we may need short time stuff to get the energy while we're build
outing and sonoma uses category 2 and how those get counted to be a negative under this system i want to insure we're not tying our hands and 11 ab can tie our hands to how we do further procurement i'll encourage i know your staff is looking at the cca but they left out the discussion of cca in the discussion i'll encourage you to add a whereas or one or two whereas clauses to take into consideration not just the short time but the long term goals of clean power. >> it is the resolution from the board; right? >> there you go.
>> thank you city attorney's office the resolution will support the city and county of san francisco position to oppose unless amend and under the way the city works only the board can speak on behalf of the city and county so the puc can have an engagement with the legislative committee bow e but to amend this resolution they can't say really does that because they're not going to - all they're doing is agreeing with at least as itch with the city and county accident all the other things i mean, they, engage the advocacy and pursue the cleanpowersf issues with our lobbyist and the
board and the city lives legislative committee wouldn't work to amend had resolution this about the city and county of san francisco position does that make sense. >> next please. my name is silvia johnson. i think that i'm starting as is police security probably tomorrow i'm applying for a josh job and that job goes to city hall courts and everything is written on this happening in april or march and i hope this happens sooner that because this you know needs to be you know supported and also
the other thing the paperwork i've written and they see no problem in this election it was very much understand because of a battle i've recorded and the costs will not be condemned the u.s. army in 2007 question goat pissed off about it because the waste was dumped here our children gotten sick and it needs to be cleaned up of course i know that i think and the electric company was not aware but it is important the bay area acted at the same time
in 2007 they got they said to demolish a lot of people here and had court hearings about that or i didn't agree in any of this in 2007 i think your electrical company is very misinformed chapters. >> thank you, thank you next item, please. >> so counsel i'm wondering can we put something in the first whereas it says at the end of the first whereas including heavily investing in the hetch hetchy power system and the community parenthesis cleanpowersf. >> norway reign city attorney's office if i want to change the recitals in the whereas to include that
information that is fine i was focused on the - >> yeah. because i think is it would be good to acknowledge we're making an investment this has implications for that the program. >> so first whereas after hetch hetchy power system add and community choice aggregation parenthesis cleanpowersf. >> all right. subject to you're moving that as an amendment >> i will move i'd like to move that as an amendment if my colleagues are amenable. >> second or? >> okay. thank you. >> second. >> so there's an amended motion on the table any comments on the amendment? >> all in favor, say i.
>> i. >> opposed? i believe we need to vote on the main motion resolution now so moved. >> second. >> any comments on the main resolution increasing >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? that motion carries thank you very much next item, please. >> madam secretary. >> item 13 public comment on matters disclosed in closed session. >> very quickly commissioner eric brooks i was not available in time for public comment i want to say i saw a hayes valley reports on the proposed merger of pacific co-sponsorship the grid operators and thoughts perverse a very good report we need to be circumspect about lorgz our power to cal to have
much more power to make sure our engine is clean and leverage for our clean energy system for the wise to expand and merge with pacific corp. thank you. >> secretary will you read the items it closed session i acknowledged only 2 items in closed session and we need a motion on 14. >> can you read do items. >> the motion first. >> i think you need to read the items and see if there are public comment on those items and assert privilege. >> item 15 conference with local counsel anticipated litigation we're not going to hear item 16 today and item 17 unlitigated claim career street hoa versus the city and county
of san francisco and items 18 through 25 will not be heard today. >> thank you. we have two items we'll be hearing public comments on either of those two items. >> yes. my name is silvia johnson. two items which i asked this - the paternity on the process water sewer and public you know comments for - to have which our dime to clean power clear up a lot of toxic little tiny animals and it looks like like a you
know what you call it- it is crawling all over the sidewalks and stuff and causing people to get sick and dying i asked them in 2007 they pointed out occupy u out you know. >> thank you for your comments so is there a motion to assert attorney/client privilege with the two items in . >> we spelled the settlement was
approved by it commission a motion to disclose no to disclose the other discussions we had during you pursue so moved not to disclose. >> not to disclose. >> second >> all in favor, say i. >> i. >> opposed? other new business commissioners i have a couple of announcements at april 12th commission meeting is cancelled you are next meeting on april 26th correcting i want to acknowledge as move on into adjournment the passing of wellington the first african-american appoint to the public works i'd like to adjourn this meeting in his honor the mayor ed lee has made a statement on his passing and the flag at city hall and sfmta will
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>> i would like to thank sf govtv jim and leo who record each of our meetings and make the transcripts available to the public online. >> madam clerk, do you have any announcements? city clerk: yes, please silence cell phones and other electronic devices. anything to be submitted, should be given to the clerk. >>supervisor norman yee: before we get started, can we have a motion to excuse supervisor aaron peskin from this meeting. >> so moved. >> without objection, motion passes. also supervisor david campos is here to serve as a member in replacement of supervisor peskin.
>> madam clerk, please call first item. city clerk: item no. 1 to assess the impact of coyotes citywide. the a request by the an care and control and the recreation and parks department and the press -- press -- >>supervisor norman yee: this is a concern about coyotes. just p recently a pack of dogs have been killed. we have reviewing plans of action for our city. today we will hear more about their findings and their suggestions as a city's response plan as we
move forward. wild coyotes have been in and around san francisco for many years. this is the first year we have heard of sightings in new areas in balboa terrace. residents are becoming increasingly worried about the coyotes and close to humans. there is also concern for household pets especially when two dogs were attacked by coyotes earlier in year in stern grove and another one in balboa last week. we are taking measures to better understand the coyotes and mitigate their impacts. animal care and control and recreation and parks have also been
proactive in conducting town hall meetings and informing dog owners about coyotes. however, throughout this process, it has become clear that there is still a lot to learn about coyotes in our city and how we as a local jurisdiction can manage the impacts to ensure safety of our residents, pets, while preserving wild life too. i look forward to working with our departments and neighborhoods on a citywide plan. as i mentioned, or we've had this issue come up to us before and in many ways this will be a follow up discussion and i will ask animal care control to come up with some strategies around this and what kind of resources do we need as we go further. so, are there any other
comments? supervisor camp os? >>supervisor david campos: thank you everyone. to me this is very personal as a caretaker of an english bulldog that is not too far from vernal hill which is something i think about and worry about as any dog caretaker here in san francisco. and i think it's important for us to hear from the city on what the strategy is to make sure that ori pets are safe while at the same time preserving wild life. so, i look forward to the conversation to the discussion and i think that being proactive about something like this and letting people know that we are being proactive i think is important. thank you. >> thank you, any other comments?
welcome president breed. okay, let's get started. our first presenter is jonathan young. he's a wild life ecologist from presidio trust. jonathan? presenter: hello and thank you for allowing me this opportunity to present to you about coyotes and how we in the presidio are managing these animals and human coyote conflict. i have a presentation to view. so, before i get into our management strategies, i think it's really important to put a context to all of this because the connect of these animals in this urban environment really dictate how we manage these animals effectively. so as
you all know, these animals are a somewhat recolonization to san francisco and i want to stress this is a recolonization of these animals. these animals used to be had been and were gone, and i want to get into how that plays into management of this all. we know they used to be here because of historic documentation at the academy of sciences and old newspaper articles from the early days of the development of this city discussing coyotes coming into this city and conflict even back in those days happening. so the last one reported being seen in san francisco was 1925. so you can imagine them having to come back in early 2000, an absence of 75 years in this community is going to play a significant
role in how these communities respond to these animals and the general awareness of these animals having been absent for so long. so why did they go locally extinct? it shouldn't about a surprise to many people. back in the day, hunting was the norm for recreation for profit, for fur trade, for deprivation. if these animals would eat lambs or chickens and the government sponsored bounty. the federal government hired bounty and you can imagine how easy it was to deal with the animals
firsthand and the ability to do that with firearms. of course, that has changed. social norms have changed. firearms are not acceptable in city areas, hunting, trapping, all of that throughout the greater bay area has changed. the societift al shin the late 20th century into the 21st century was really reflected in the 1974 state law which banned the mammalian bounty state sponsored bounty was banned.
the habitat within san francisco is appropriate habitat for these animals and the shift allows these animals to recolonized in this city. this concept is really important in how we manage these animals and how realistic we are about these animals in this area. i want to take a step back to really highlight that urban coyotes are not just a san francisco phenomenon. this is a north american wide issue that a community of researchers and managers are really trying to come together in a conversation to really address how do you best manage this because this is a 21st
century phenomenon and really is something that will be an indefinite thing across the country. so bringing it back to the bay area, you can see the contrast of open space right up into our urban environments. you can see how all of those open space, not just coyotes but other wild life is very close and these animals are thriving in these open spaces in an area again where there is society is primed and habitat area is primed to allow the conditions to allow these animals to come in and thrive in these areas. i want to also point out that the conductivity in the bay area is important.
these animals can travel long distances. the golden gate bridge have served for other large animals like deer and raccoon. the ability for these animals to come income from the north and south. we have evidence to show that coyotes have come down the bridge in the early 2000s. the reality of these animals as i highlighted with this shift in these boundaries is that these animals are here to stay. the species. the way that these animals work, their behavior typically a bonded pair, a female and male will establish a home range and
they will maintain that home range from other coyotes coming in. when you remove an animal, it opens up that territory, that habitat and other coyotes are going to come right in to find and stake out their own home range. taking it back to the connectivity of the greater bay area in san francisco and the contrast of open spaces, there is an essential, an endless supply of coyotes in the bay area. open habitat is a vacuum. when there is open habitat and a coyote opens suitable habitat, that's very important, suitable habitat. these animals come in and they will continue to come in as the habitat is made available. the removal of an animal is replaced quickly by another animal. that is a
very important concept to understand. i want to discuss a little bit of the details, the psychological dynamic t role these animals play in our urban areas because this is going to factor as to how we manage these animals. so, the first one is food and that means that primarily our focusing on small mammals such as rodents, raccoons and squirrels. that is very important to keep in mind. for lack of a better term right now, pest management, they are very important in maintaining an ecological balance for a healthy ecosystem, but in addition to that, the service that that provides to human beings as far as pest control is an important factor. of course these animals are
into trash and fruit trees really are also a resource that these animals will take advantage of in our urban area. another important concept that i want to address is populations. so, yes, these animals are reproducing in the presidio and likely elsewhere in san francisco. but it's really important to understand that unlike animals such as deers or rabbits, these animals have based on their complex social structure have a self regulating population. so, again, as i had mentioned earlier, a pair, typically a pair or family unit will maintain their own home range. so that home range includes the resources for them to survive which is habitat, food and water. those are limited resources.
these animals, their social structure dictates how and when. if pups are born, the parents typically out of a certain age, depending on the amount of resources in the area, the parents will draw them out typically around the first year. it goes back to a really complex k9 social structure. it's important to understand how their population is self regulated. it's a dynamic concept based on dynamic and habitat such as resources as water. the drought is going to impact these animals than a regular rainy day or wet year. it's important to recognize that their population do have a
limit to them. finally, individual coyotes, that is incredibly important to understand as well. some coyotes are more shy or more bold than other coyotes. so individual, recognizing that coyotes are individuals just like domestic dogs, individuals. it's very important and i will get into why in a little bit. that is very significant into how we manage these animals. of course, this goes without saying, we are all here because of conflict. it's inevitable. again, north america wide, human coyote conflict is a real thing in urban areas. and a lot of this conflict has a human dimension component to it. the two primary drivers of conflict as mentioned earlier are domestic animals and feeding of wild life. those are the two primary drivers in urban areas that really
drive conflict. and so, really quickly i want to point out these images here. of course i'm sure many of you have seen the bottom left one. this is a sign of allegiance and honor, "feeding wild life" i have seen examples of feeding which is very in close proximity to animals. this drives conflict and this is important in how we manage conflict. i will get into that in a second. so, taking it now to the presidio. if i imagine most everyone in this room is aware that the presidio is a national park, federal jurisdiction.
as i mentioned the recolonization in this park, we are as a federal agency approaching this with a very realistic approach to management. and the realism that we have accepted again as i highlighted in my introduction, these animals, the species is going to have an indefinite presence. so, how do we best manage this if we know these animals are going to be here one way or another? well, our main goal, of course, is to minimize conflict. that is the main goal. minimize conflict. of course, as a federal national park, we are federally mandated to protect the natural resources of the park which includes coyotes
ecological role in maintaining a healthy functioning eco system as a mentioned earlier. balancing, minimizing conflict with our federal mandate to protect the resources is obviously a very challenging approach, but it's our approach that we are taking. i want to get into how we are doing that because we have been contacting a lot of these nationwide researchers and managers and developing best management practices which i will get into in the early 2000s when these animals came back, a variety of local agencies came together in the presidio and really got together and discussed how do we best manage these animals in this area again to minimize conflict, but balancing them with their ecological role in this national park. so what this group really
got together was to define a lot of things. so, defining what is normal coyote behavior. what is abnormal coyote behavior in urban areas. what is the difference between an observation, an interaction, and encounter and an attack. we wanted to define those so there is consistency. we also wanted to develop a systemic investigative assessment procedure so that we can be consistent with how we manage these animals and manage and minimize conflict. so i want to get into the management and how we deal with this in our best management practices. in presidio, in our national park we have
public users and residents that are leasing and renting the old military structures. and again, bringing it back to the human dimension in these conflicts is going to be dictating how we manage these and how we address those human dimensions as well as how we address the coyote dimension. and as i mentioned earlier, the primary conflict are with domestic animals and this conflict, a lot of these situations can be minimized through best management practices. i will get into those right now. the most significant driver is public knowledge and understanding of these animals. so, the biggest component of that is the lack of information or
factual information based on science on these animals. we promote human behavior that reduces this conflict. you can see on the right hand side of this image. part of our resident lease agreement is you are not allowed to have your cats outside. so there is a variety of reasons for that. one which is to protect your cats from coyotes. do not feed the wild life. that is a huge one. on the bottom right, you can see it's a compost bin that has a latch top. so we really do manage our trash to keep the wild life out of this trash. of course, all of these we provide a where and how to report any concerns, observations, encounters,
any of that. we have a hotline and coyote presidio.gov e-mail which is checked regularly by myself and a few other folks. identifying active areas is a key component to our management. as i mentioned earlier and as most people have already recognized, these animals are breeding in the city. in the presidio there was one active confirmed last year. this is a concept that i want to really stress. this time, the puppying season through march is the most significant time for dog coyote conflict. why that happens is again k9 behavior.
an active den sight. parents of that active den sight want to keep them out of that area. in the small area like the presidio where there is a lot of dog walking, it's not that difficult to have a trail walk right by an active den site. it's very important to find these active areas to address that and minimize this conflict. this behavior is very typical with parents trying to keep the k9's out of that. if domestic dogs are in that area, it's almost clock work that it's going to happen. these parents want them out of that area. so that area is avoided if there is an awareness of that area if it's an act have area with signage. that is going to be
important for us as an agency to provide a route to inform people that a dog in this area something very likely is going to happen. instead of going down this trail, there is another area where they are not there. this is going to reduce the conflict significantly. whe with do find these active areas, heavy signage. get it on people's radar that right now a dog in this area, conflict will likely happen. if you avoid this area, you are going to reduce the chance of this conflict happening. we have brochures we hand out and we are working with our trail ambassadors to post people on these trails to help inform and educate people that this can be avoided in this area at this particular time. of course, we promote
heavily keeping k9's, your pets on the leash. because sometimes our domesticated k9 and another one wants to play with it. these are wild animals. ultimately awareness is going to help reduce a lot of these conflicts. monitoring very important. human interaction and dog interaction. we want to keep you informed so we can investigate. the general observation is very important to keep with that. it's going to play in how we investigate and assess through our procedures and how we manage
these situations. so, a lot of phone calls, again, through our hotline and e-mails which are followed up by personal phone calls or face-to-face interviews so we can start to gather these specific details and start to understand what was happening when this conflict happened. what was the coyotes behavior, the human behavior going on, was there a dog present. was it in the den area when it was found? we are going to need to paint the details that will dictate our management actions. consistency is very important here. so some of the management actions that we implement aside from the human dimensions which is again primarily spreading awareness in information. the other management action are focused on the coyotes
themselves. there is a variety of tools that we can use and it's very important when discussing these management actions because, again, these animals coyotes, are in incredibly adaptable intelligent animals. if anyone of these tools are over used or used irresponsibly, these animals can become habituated to these tools. so it's very important how we handle these in a systemic way. as i mentioned earlier, these animals are individuals. it's incredibly important to know individuals. if there is an individual that is exhibiting abnormal behavior, we want to focus our management actions on that individual, the culprit. we don't want to focus on an animal
that might be the ideal urban coyote, the shy individual that is never involved in conflict or very rarely. it's very important to identify the individuals in an action. but it's very difficult because for the most part they look identical. occasionally there will be characteristics for example scars, but you need to know individuals and it's very difficult to identify individuals. we do promote hazing from the public in our brochures and how to best do that. we also as a federal agency have a type of hazing that we will do, for example, paint balls. it has two purposes. one is hazing. the physical feeling of getting hit by a paint ball is going to be really
important to you. conditioning these animals in a certain area that humans are a threat to these animals in a certain area. we need to condition them to know that. the other point is again, identify individuals. getting paint on an individual so we can say down the road that's the same individual. that's the individual that keeps exhibiting this aggressive behavior. other management actions, the simple strategic barriers such as fences. these fences aren't to keep these animals out exclusively, but what we focus on is barricading the path of least resistance. so if there is social trail these animals are using to access a place where say it's a common dog walking trail, we can block that social trail
and we have done that and that removes this ease of action for these animals and active in this area has gone down. there are tools that are used in development and across the nation and scientist are trying to figure out how these tools work and how long they work and how to best implement them. what do you do if these tools don't work or if the animals do continue to go in the trend of what we are trying to avoid as aggressive behavior. what do you do? the first frequent question is why aren't you relocating these animals? take them out of here. i want to clarify that it is illegal in the state of california to do that. that is not an option. it is never going to happen.
translocating an animal is not an option. getting that information to people that that is not an option. the only option at this point is lethal removal. it has happened, and it is not an option that we want to jump to immediately, and we want to know for certain through our procedure that this is the only option. and we have a committee that we group, we regroup with our committee which i have shown before, a lot of agencies, and we discuss, it's a case by case specific every time whether or not this is the appropriate management action of lethal removal. again, if and when this happens, where if we get to that point, individual identification is the most important component of that
because we want to be 100% certain that we are targeting the individual, the problem. we want to go in there and we want to get the problem and we don't want to just blanket get any coyote and miss the problem coyote because the problem will remain. so it's incredibly important and lethal removal is not taken lightly. so, getting into this year, we are starting to implement a much more proactive approach through a pilot study to really shed some light on these mysterious animals and really again, the ultimate goal here is to minimize conflict, and there is a lot of information based on these animals behavior and -- ecology that we just don't know. this pilot is going to get
at that. this pilot is modeled on cities across the country who are doing very similar work in l.a., chicago, a variety of huge urban areas are doing this work which includes really actually getting a population count so we can tag these animals, individuals and start to actually get real numbers of how many are in the presidio. in early identification, long-term individual identification such as ear tags are going to be very important long-term management. health assessments, we are going to do a vaety of health assessment and strategy to get into their diet. are these animals eating human food? as i pointed out earlier, that is a huge driver of conflict.
there are techniques that you can do to assess if they are eating natural or human food. this will give us high resolution, movement pattern of these animals and how they use this habitat in very active areas where we otherwise might not know and we get back to the public as far as signage and public awareness. part of that is going to be citizens science and public information. cities all over the country are using this as a means to engage the public to get the information out there and to have the public help us track these animals. this is again going to be really important thinking about individual identification and ear tags and
long-term monitoring of these animals, where is it going, where is the likely area where you are going to see them most often. all of this is really important in terms of gathering information. it's also a means for us to engage the public as well to get that important information out there that can really start to help influence people's behavior to again reduce this conflict of these animals that are going to be here indefinitely. on that, i want tothank you for giving me this opportunity. >> what about birth control? why are you not doing birth control? >>mayor edwin m. lee: excuse me, sir. you will get your chance to talk. thank you for your
presentation. jonathan, i want to make it clear that what you are talking about is moving in the presidio. >> yes. it's a pilot project. >> then i want some clarification. when you talk about a den, how many dens do you have? >> we confirmed one den and in previous year we've been only to see one den. they are patrolled to keep other k 9's in the area. it's going to depend on the area. >> home range is larger than it's immediate den area? >> yes, absolutely. >> the question i have is that you are doing this in the
presidio trust and i don't know how much it cost to do this and whether or not who would do this in the city outside of the presidio trust? >> we are focused on presidio trust. again, i want to highlight these studies are being done in most urban areas around the country. there are other federal agencies, usgf, usda and other organizations that did these across the country. >> the other thing you mentioned about coyotes being individuals and they have sort of different personalities. so how do you define a coyote that is abnormal having abnormal behaviors, aggressiveness and so forth? >> that goes back to that original group, the committee we have with all of those agencies, getting
other coyote experts involved. i want to again point out that urban coyotes are a relatively new thing. so the new research that's coming out of that is starting to really shed some light on specifically urban coyotes that are different behaviors than rural coyotes because of the general environment that urban areas have. so it is getting that committee with a variety of experts and to sit down and define. this is what we are going to define as normal or abnormal in our area. again, that's going to be driven by contemporary up to date science. >> have you or other cities done enough research to understand when you talk about home range, how large of an area that is? >> it's going to be
dependent on food, water and habitat. the gps callers will start to shed some light on that. >> so this is, i'm just curious would anybody know how many dens we have in this city? >> it's going to depend on the habitat type because the structure of the habitat is going to allow them to dig these dense. if they can't dig these dens, it's going to be dependent on that, will depend on the group home range in one area like the presidio or within a variety of areas within their home range. it's difficult without getting down in the field and start assessing at that level. >> just within the presidio trust as you are doing this study,
what's the cost of doing this study? >> it's a little different because as a full time employee, i do a lot of that as opposed to contracting with an individual or agency to do all of it to design all of it. so it's going to be dependent on that really. it's hard to nail down. >> any other questions? supervisor campos? >>supervisor david campos: thank you. just a question. maybe you can answer. any idea of how many coyotes are in the presidio right now and citywide? >> we had a usgs researcher come in serve years back and did an assessment based on the size of the presidio, it could likely support two
breeding pairs and four individuals and that's going to fluctuate. as they breed there are going to be more individuals and the pups grow up, the parents are going to drive them away north of the bridge, south of the peninsula. the population is going to be, it's not 100% stable. there is a lot of ups and downs. >> when was that done? >> that was done in 2005. >> that's a long time ago. >> right now, what we can say for certainty is we have four coyotes. again, we don't have any individual tags. the only way we can say that with certainty is if you see four individuals at once so you can say those are four individuals right there. >> do you have any plans to do a follow up assessment? it seems 11 years is a long time. >> that's what the 2016
pilot is. yes. >> thank you. >>supervisor norman yee: unfortunately, supervisor campos, he's talking about the presidio. we ed to figure out how to do it citywide. >> thank you very much. next up is virginia donahue. she's the director of the san francisco department of animal care and control. welcome, virginia. presenter: thank you, supervisor. before i get started, jonathan, do you want to address the sterilization question? >> i will just say that it is a complex topic. i would like to explain that if given the opportunity, but i don't want to take
of abandoned and domesticated and wild animals and responsible for the animal welfare laws and regulations. as you can see our department is focused on the research of wild animals. we are in the process of hiring outside help with the assistance of recreation and parks and asked for wild life funding in the upcoming budget year. animal care and control first received calls about coyotes in 2007. in our recent history it surfaced in an encounter with pack dogs in golden gate park. animal control were called and the coyotes were killed
and many people were upset they were killed. the coyotes are here to stay and working with other agencies there is an outline that describes abnormal and normal coyote behavior. we practice recognition that animals will be treated as such. we the humans are responsible for adapting our own behavior. all of us in this room are all too aware of eddie and jasmine's. we understand the pain an anger and their friends feel. the hard truth of this situation is that our world has changed. just as many of us can remember when we didn't lock our doors at
night or when kindergartners walk by themselves to school, gone are the days when pets can wander off. acc track's coyote. while we don't know how many we have in san francisco, we do know how many we have collected. for a scale, here is a number of coyotes we have picked up as compared to the number of raccoons. the numbers remain relatively stable. we have just been able to computerize a data base for coyote sighting. so far this year there have
been 69 sightings and >>supervisor london breed: how do you get the information for these sightings? >> people will call us and we'll talk about at the very end on how to report a sighting. these are based on phone calls to us or through 311. >> when people call my office, it's appropriate to provide that information or contact you? >> either way. i believe they are keeping their own chart and we are taking the information and putting it into our system. >> thank you. >> so what can we as a community do? how can we keep our pets safe? we have heard from residents who want us to move the coyotes.
as jonathan has explained, we can't move those coyotes. to do so we need a permit from the department of fish and wild life and they have assured us they will never give us a permit because no other county wants a coyote either. jonathan has already explained scientific research shows that coyotes will breed as long as there is enough resources to sustain them. if you kill one coyote, more coyotes will come to fill that space. so recognizing that there is sometimes a disconnect between academics and real implementers, we checked with our counter parts in cities across the country especially along the west coast and state and wild life experts. as you can see from these
slides, all of these cities have seen practical coexistence. many have tried other measures including trapping but they have not worked. this is described by a chicano mall care control officer we spoke with who said when you kill a coyote, two come to the funeral. to date, we have managed this issue mostly through public education which includes signage, brochures and training and community meetings and we formed a coyote workgroup through animal control and recreation and parks with presidio trust and national parks. since much of the recent activity has been taking place in city parks, recreation and parks will speak about this in more detail and after this presentation, i will talk more about our next steps. >>mayor edwin m. lee: thank
you. lisa, from recreation and parks who is the open space manager will do a presentation. >> good morning, supervisors. lisa wane, the open space manager for the recreation and parks department. thank you for hearing this topic this morning. as a land manager of parks is to manage 220 parks and facilities for recreation centers and pools and many open parks and open spaces such as golf parks and open spaces. these parks and open spaces
provide credible habitats for wild life including coyotes. the areas which is an example of reservoirs of our local biodiversity which includes creeks which is an important water source needed. they have meadows, grass lands that contain rodents and resources and cover den sites. for coyotes and other wild life. that is just an example for natural areas of course large portions of golden gate park some provide for all or critical habitat pieces for urban wild life. so, our challenge at
recreation and parks is to steward these park lands to provide a safe recreational opportunities for visitors and residents. we understand that people are afraid. some people are afraid for themselves or for their companion animals. for that challenge, recreation and parks tries to balance these sometimes competing interest of preserving and stewarding our environment and natural resources and creating safe places for our families in san francisco. we take both of these responsibilities very seriously, both the safety and our environmental stewardship. so, as land managers we rely on our organization and other organizations by our colleagues an animal
care control and our colleagues at presidio trust and we evaluate the site conditions and respond as land managers which is our responsibility when things happen on our parkland. sf parks has been managing these issues with other experts, states and local agencies. we sponsored a number of public education and outreach workshops over the years. we did one recently in the last year at the boat house. that's been one of many. we also conducted a very specific training with dog owners at stern grove park last year in response to the incidents that happened there and that training is focused really on hazing and how best dog
owners can promote coexistence, respond to sightings and keep their companion animals safe. we've also conducted a number of staff trainings for recreation and parks field staff because they are also critical people on the ground who provide important information to us, and can help in our objective of coexistence. the staff trainings have included information about the life cycle as our colleagues of the presidio trust talked about specifically around being aware during the breeding season, how these animals behave, how we can respond and how it's coordinated to keep good housekeeping, for example.
we urge all park users to abide by park codes and park signage which ask visitors not to feed wild life and also to keep dogs on a leash in non-off leash areas. feeding of wild animals in particular either in intentionally or unintentionally as we heard from jonathan, the presidio trust, only leads to problems. those animals become acclimated to the presence of humans and can become more aggressive. so in an effort to reduce that unintentional feedings, we have installed these garbage containers and they isolate the garbage instead of an open container that
any animal can go into and retrieve the garbage. these minimize the feeding of our wild life. >> okay, when we are alerted to aggressive or assertive behavior. sf rpd coordinates with our animal control to investigate the incident, the where, the how, the why if there is, and to determine many of those details. we consult with local experts as to whether that animal is illustrating or exhibiting normal behavior. we spend a fair amount of time in the field assessing these situations. as long as the coyotes are acting normally our response is typically an additional alert mornings, advisories, outreach. we
worked with last year with the stern grove dog owners group. sf dogs and others to get the word out that there was an active coyote in stern grove, for example. we look to change behaviors, both people and coyotes. so we have installed temporary fencing. there was an incident where people were actually actively feeding the coyotes in stern grove pine lake park last year. we installed some fencing in areas we identified where people were doing the feeding and posting signs and alerted park patrol and staff as to the seriousness of that activity. we've also installed these kinds of barriers to help disrupt the coyote behavior as well. sometimes putting in a new
piece of fencing in their environment along the trails they actively use can disrupt their behavior and discourage them or maybe they move elsewhere. we have also temporarily closed park trails to particularly to dogs and in some cases to dogs and people. we have done this in golden gate park. we have closed some restrooms as well as trails over all. in pine lake park this last year one section of the trail where the incident with the tragic incident with buster happened, we advised people not to bring their dogs onto that trail. also encouraged the dog owners to be vigilant. keep their animals in the middle of the meadow, not walk against the edges where it's kind of known that
the coyotes can be hanging out. so, someone summarizes i think how we as land managers have been trying to respond to this changing environment. we want to keep our parks safe for families. all kinds of families, companion animals but at the same time we take on environmental responsibility seriously. we understand it takes a team approach and we are grateful for our collaboration with animal care and control and the presidio trust and we are looking forward to continuing to grow and develop our response team and figure out how more effectively to coexist with these animals. >> i have a question this
morning. in regards to parks where people are feeding animals, and i see that all the time in terms of feeding pigeons and squirrels. do we have any laws against that? >> yes. it is against park code for people to feed animals. >> so if you see someone feeding a coyote, what do you do? >> well, if we actually see it, we would approach the person and tell them, you know, inform them that it's against the park code and depending on the situation, we might dispatch our park patrol who could issue tickets if necessary. lots of times what happens is we don't actually see the feeding. you know, we hear from neighbors which is really helpful because we can address the site conditions, if you will, but a lot of times we don't
actually observe behaviors, specifically. >>supervisor david campos: how many tickets have i -- you issued for people feeding coyotes? >> i don't know if we have issued any tickets. we have to check on that. again, it's difficult to time it right. people show up, they feed and they leave. it's very quick. >> thank you. >>mayor edwin m. -- >> installing these bins, has it helped? >> time will tell. they are being installed and fairly new but indications are very helpful. >> thank you very much.
>>supervisor norman yee: thank you very much. that is very helpful. >> after yesterday's incident in stern grove, we clearly need to go back and do more public training on how to haze a coyote. we sent an officer to the scene yesterday and unable to find the coyote, but based on the resident description, it sounds like sheen countered a young coyote and she and her dog
ran which began a chase with a coyote. if you find yourself in a similar situation, it's important to know that you never want to run. you want to pick up your dog if possible and make yourself big, loud and scary. if that doesn't work, you need to slowly back away, not turning your back on the coyote until you are a good distance away. otherwise they will chase and do what your dog would do in a similar situation. in ingleside terrace, we would look to enhance hazing methods. they are already assisting us in this effort. we need to change the activities so the coyotes are surprised. officials
that have been dealing with coyotes longer, we have concluded that it would be better off to scare the coyotes that we have than having others move in. on this slide we have a variety of tools we would like to try with the involvement of the neighborhoods. citywide, a workgroup is collaborating to develop a consistent approach to document coyotes sightings and encounters to best share information about them throughout the city. >>supervisor david campos: can you go back to the hazing materials? >> sure. these are all an experiment. the first one we have, i will show you the video for that one.
basically, stick, mylar, it makes a lot of noise. i'm sure you get the general idea there. okay. these going right to left, there is an automatic light system, a predator eye blinking in the night so it looks like a predator to them. super soaker. we are going to try that. on the far left, there is a water scarecrow it's called where basically it shoots out water at random intervals for motion coming
by and wild life whistles and the standard shaker. a metal can with coins in it and you shake it and throw it at the coyote. >> it looks like a burrito. it's counter intuitive. >> we try to shake up these things to see what works. there is also a coyote app, an existing app called "pet alert". it's with the office of innovation stir challenge. we are competing to develop a coyote app for us. it's to allow people to report sightings and information on the amount of haze. across
the city, we need people to help us out in a few ways: one, we need to stop feeding animals. we have had many occasions where people are feeding wild life animals. this is always bad for the wild animal. when there are warnings in the coyote area, please take precautions with your pet. this means you should be in visual contact with your dog at all times. if you have a small dog, it should be within arms reach. i know it's difficult in areas but that has to happen. please report sightings through 311. if you need active support,
please call us directly. >>supervisor norman yee: in regards to the app that's being developed, when do you think it will be available? >> there is one in california right now, but the san francisco one the competition concludes i believe in april. and then all of the developers have said they think they can do it pretty quickly. i'm thinking if everything goes right, june. >> once we have it, how are we going to let people know about it? >> oh, yeah, once we have it, everybody is going to know about it. >>supervisor david campos: what does the app do? >> the app hasn't been developed yet but what we want it to do so when people have a coyote sighting, they can enter it and we can mark the den such that people know to avoid this area. it will have the reminders
about hazings and it has video demonstration, that kind of thing as well as hazing equipment that you could individually try. one of the features of southern california app has right now is it will send out if there is a sighting, it will send out a broadcast to people who subscribe. right now that feature is not terrible useful to us because the range is 6 miles. for us that's our whole city. that would need to be adapted for us. >>supervisor norman yee: you talk about hazing and ingleside terraces and balboa area, and possibly using that. what is the result of hazing? what's the goal of it? because it seems maybe you are driving them
into another residential area. >> our ultimate goal and we are not sure how achievable this is because there have been mixed feelings across the country. our ultimate goal to keep them away from people no matter what neighborhood their in. they are not going away but if we can drive most of them back into avoiding conflict with people, we'll all be in better shape. >> i know that we tried to get some resources initially to help out, to focus on the coyote situation and was just a very small amount to get things going. what would it take citywide in terms of resources for the things that you are trying to implement? >> well, we asked this year recreation and parks has generously loaned us $15,000 to get things
started. we asked for $20-40,000 in next year's budget. that's mostly for public education and hazing materials. we are not sure which of these things are going to work, and we've been advised that people across the country need to continue relocating them. if we got $150, okay, let's see if this works. >> as you are working with neighborhoods and you are letting them know about these different tools, would there be any staff follow ups in terms of neighborhoods and continuing the process or are you going to introduce them. >> we are coming up with a rotate. based on when we get the volunteers, a rotation plan because a lot of these tools are things you have to put on your lawn.
we are not going to put things on people's lawns. that would end badly. we are looking for volunteers in the area. right now, we don't have the officers in place to do all of this work. so we are basically taking from our other programs to get this done. if the problem grows more and if we need more officers on the ground, we are going to need more officers. we only have 13 to cover everything that happens in this city 7 days a week from 6:00 a.m. to 1:00 a.m.. we don't even have 24/7 coverage at this point. >>supervisor norman yee: thank you very much. any other questions? thank you for your presentation. what i would like to do is allow the public comment at this point. i will call you up. you can lineup on this side to my left, to your right, and you
have 2 minutes to address the body. so dr. daniel brown, roger riter, rebecca, shirley link, sally stevens, patrick riley. go ahead. i have two more cards. i will call those later. public speaker: hello, i'm dr. daniel brown. i taught city college for 20 years. i live in ingleside. in the past we had laws that
were changed and i think we can change these laws. i do not want to be afraid that my cats will be killed because i don't put them on a leash. this is crazy. if there were bounty laws, we are not tied by the past and this idea that because coyotes were here 150 years ago that we have to put up with them now. they are killing our family members. when i call the department of animal control, i was told, nothing can be done until a human being is killed. well, maybe that's what it's going to take. it could not continue as it is right now. we are having members of our family mangled and eaten and we are pulling our hair out and pushing our hands in our faces and there is nothing we can do. we can change the laws.
if you can't translocate a dangerous animal, then the laws should be made. if it was an animal killing another animal, if it was a pitbull or grizzly bear killing our pets, it would be translocated or euthanized or at least injecting with some kind of material so it will eventually die out. we do not have to be so politically correct and insane and let these animals come into this city and when the chain is up that we no longer live with wild animals. [ applause ] >> roger, c'mon up. mark, go ahead and lineup.
public speaker: thank you, supervisors. i'm roger rooter, past president of balboa association and president of the council. i'm speaking on behalf of the terrace that support our neighbors. frankly i'm very disappointed by the response of acc which seems to be the focus that says there is nothing we can do. you have to adapt your behavior. i was struck by the fact that the lady referred to the fact that we now lock our doors, walk our kids to school. presumably we must further restrict our behavior to the perceived wild animals in our city. this is an urban environment. if we were in a rural
environment or national park, it would be one. our rights and rights of our domestic pets and the rights of our children, out weigh the rights of coyotes. last week in balboa, a coyote jumped a fence and killed a small dog. was the owner supposed to keep the dog on the leash while walking it in its backyard? do we have to wait until a child is attack before we do something. simply throwing up our hands and say we can't do anything is a solution. public speaker: hi. my name is rebecca. i have a non-profit called wild life services. we have worked -- we. i want
to introduce myself and services and i would like to offer our assistance with working with coyotes. we have done a special education event. i would like to encourage as you are doing and moving forward with the coyote management plan, a comprehensive one and i hope it will include lethal control only after a human is hurt, not in response to an animal being killed. a great presentation by jonathan, by the way, you said everything i wanted to say. i would like to address the notion that i hear all the time if i get rid of the animal, i will get rid of the problem and that is not very true. as jonathan said, when we remove these animals. >> [inaudible] >> excuse me, sir.
you will get a chance. >> excuse me, this is public testimony. >> thank you. anyway, i'm sorry for the loss of pets. there is a balance that has to be struck between humans taking responsibility for their animals. there is a way to live -- can we have him go out? >> everybody is going to have their chance to express their opinion. let's be respectful because people will have a different opinion. please stop. okay. thank you very much, sir. >> it's not just opinion, it's scientific research that we've done. we can live peacefully and safely among the community. what happened was the human i guess yesterday was maybe being chased. it was probably communicating with the dog. it's a k9 thing going on. coyotes are more related to
the jackal. they do follow humans for food as a way to provide food. i look forward to developing a comprehensive plan. thanks. >> thank you. public speaker: the division of agriculture and natural resources -- >> would you like to state your name? >> i'm sorry, julie link from the university of california has held a vertebrate pest contest since 1962. this year it was held march 7th and they chose to put the coyote on the front of their literature, their agenda. they held a symposium specifically for coyotes. the problem is huge, and a
multitude of distinctive state organizations and county organizations participate in this conference. it's apparent to me that san francisco county is not involved or vailing themselves to this conference. pest include rodents, wild pigs and coyotes. the agencies that are involved here are department of public health and environmental health. their absence here is notable. so, from an historical standpoint about the presence of coyotes in san francisco, they were present in the 50s and 60s and the san
francisco department has a squad that exterminated coyotes. >> thank you very much. public speaker: hi, my name is sally stevens, the chair of dog group. i'm here to speak in coexistence. we can work together. we haven't in recent years because people haven't known what they were doing. they didn't know what the do. we need a lot more education of people and getting the information out and perhaps i would like to offer when there are sightings in the area where there haven't been some, maybe we can have more public outreach and meetings so people can know what's going on. no coyote behavior is abnormal behavior sort of thing. we need to have more targeted hazing and i'm delighted to hear that's
what acc is now working on. i think we have to make sure people know what they are doing and we need more information, more outreach. there needs to be some modification in terms of dog owner behavior in a sense of being more aware of what is going on around you and where you are with your dog and what your dog is doing and that sort of thing. i think it's not overall onerous to ask people in stern grove to walk closer to the middle as opposed to along the edges when there have been incidents. don't do it all the time, but that sort of thing. as you all know, off leash is a huge issue in the city of san francisco and we don't want to lose that we have in city parks, but i believe we have coexist with coyotes with owners and homeowners. we have to get the
were coyotes. i tried to use a cane to ward it off that was basically unsuccessful. last week i got pepper spray. that was successful. it's unfortunate. i would love the coyote to be up there but people feed the coyote, people have their big dogs interact with the coyote. i have been on the phone with animal care and control and explained the best time to see the vast majority of dog owners is early in the morning because people had to get to work so everybody is on a routine. that was 3 weeks ago and i have not seen anybody up there. with regards to the trash cans, i see trash spread out everyday where the coyote or raccoons are
getting into it. overall, my concerns have been ignored by animal care and control. i don't want anything bad to happen to the coyote, but at this current pathway, i see it within a couple feet of different dogs, the tourist up there and it's going to end up poorly for the coyote. thank you. >>supervisor norman yee: thank you. public speaker: good morning, my name is mark, the president of the ingleside terrace association and we are a primary sight -- site that is not an open area with presidio trust. in fact presidio trust has made the decision that it's appropriate for coyotes to reside with the
residents in the presidio area and they as a function of them decided to take up residence there, need to adhere to certain rules. there is a difference between cohabitation. we need to know where it's feasible for them to be situated. i do not see that today. i see the coyotes making the determination. as a result, we have heard the pups are driven out. we know where they are going. they are taking up other spaces in san francisco. obviously the population has stripped it south. we know that coyote dens are in the presidio, but we have no idea of where those dens are and we have no way of containing those areas. if the
city wants to designate areas to those ranges it needs to take the responsibility to make sure they have the sufficient resources, food and water in order to stay in those areas and there is action to deter them. the information offered here has no data collection and talks about putting thing on people's lawns where they are scared of humans. putting things on lawns, does not associate a coyote with a human. we don't understand how that's going to achieve the results. thank you. public speaker: my name is jeff marquis. my dog was killed by a coyote a week ago.
we have never had a coyote and never heard from them or saw them or had a problem. i couldn't be more liberal than anybody you can possibly know. i couldn't be more left wing, but this is getting ridiculous. we have this huge area where coyotes are breeding without any control of it at all. we have the presidio, the marin county and all the areas around where breeding is constantly happening. what the hell is going on. we have this going on. now they are talking about hazing. what the hell does it do when you are hazing when they are breeding. there are more pups moving in the area and they are spreading out and you are letting them stay here. c'mon, give us a break. we do not want to have them. we need pest control? our cats do fine pest control. we don't need coyotes out there killing
mice and rats. the damn cats will do it. what we need is we needless coyotes or no coyotes in an urban city. coyotes don't belong in the city. they are only here because they have been allowed to proliferate and allowed to expand in the areas we love and now in the city. don't do anything about it? they are not going away. there will be more of them. they will spread out more. irvine has already had three kids bitten and another one scratched. we are going to have more in a year. how many pups are there in a year? this is getting absurd. we have to have control over this. >>supervisor norman yee: thank you very much. next speaker?
public speaker: thank you, supervisors. my name is doug wolf. we have to have public access and the environment. we coexist with nature all around us. first off as a son and brother of a dog and cat parent. it's difficult to lose a humor animal. we sympathize with those families who have lost family members. in areas due to the drought, rodents and their food sources are plentiful where they feed. closer to homes and businesses where rodents and vermin feed on garbage. we are a friendly city an ensure our dogs are social and friendly.
it is the guardian and handler who is responsible for prevention to harm. coyotes and other wild life experts have reported to you before and currently work with the city on this issue. they continue to advocate for the methods of presidio trust and train coyotes and other wild life to stay in certain areas and post signage. additionally strobe lighting has been tested on ranches and farms which is very successful. i would like to add with the advent of recreation and parks natural areas program, they are planning on using very high carcinogen pesticides. this will not only affect our dogs and children, but also the
wild life that we choose to protect in the city. on monday, the environment commission approved to exempt and ban carcinogens and i would urge you to do the same. thank you. >>supervisor norman yee: thank you. any other public comment, please lineup. i don't have anymore cards. public speaker: hi. i'm mary molly, a san francisco native. i am or was a cat owner. my beloved cat that the whole neighborhood loves has gone missing. i have looked at cat remains to see if it was my beloved cat left from a coyote attack. as a child i grew up playing all over these streets and now we have
children playing on the same streets as coyotes is unacceptable. this coexistence is really a farce and you are putting everyone at risk. the whole idea that i'm a pet owner and i vote, and i don't think the city is doing anything appropriate to take responsibility for the coyotes and to protect it's owners and our beloved pets. i think something really needs to be done and
public speaker: my name is peggy low. i'm the owner of a dog killed last year. i have listened to all the comments today. i understand the concern about maintaining the coyotes in the city. i don't agree with it. we are an urban area. we pay high taxes. the coyotes aren't paying taxes, they aren't voting. they are killing out pets. if that pet was killed on their front lawn, i think the family has the right to say, this is against the law. this is something that needs to be rectified. i don't think it's right to say we have to haze them and let them continue to populate. we have to do something. i don't know about birth control, i don't know if that works. this is not their habitat. this is san francisco. we were walking our dog last week
and we see a coyote by the reservoir and the city college. he's sitting there. he's not by himself. there are other coyotes. i think it's time to act and stop making all these platitudes about how we have to exist with these animals. they are wild animals. >> thank you very much. any other public comment? mr. donahue? is there any additional public comment? seeing none, public comment is closed. ms. donahue, so, we've heard from the public and there is mixed opinions here. when it seems that -- i asked you earlier about what kind of resources we need. i think it was mark
that mentioned how we actually collect the data? where the coyotes are, how many of them and so forth. if it's taking, we need to tag them, for instance, is that part of the plan? >> tagging is is not part of the plat at the moment. the presidio is working on that in their area. i think we woould, it's not easy to tag a coyote. you have to trap the coyote to tag the coyote. so i think we would probably have to bring in usda or california fish and wild life. do you have an opinion on this? i
think what you were saying is we have to get a permit from you, but are you able to actually tag? >>supervisor norman yee: please identify yourself for the public. >> lieutenant gene from california department of fish and wild life. you have to apply a permit through our department. >> apply for what? >> a permit. >> and what's the process for doing that? is it difficult? >> the process to apply for the permit is not difficult to apply. it's up to the biologist if they decide it's an appropriate project or
not. >>supervisor norman yee: has there been any area near the bay area where they have applied for the permit? >> i'm not aware of anyone in the state who has applied yet for a permit to tag coyotes. >> okay. can we get that information? what's the closest location where they have actually applied for a permit and have used it? >> i can contact our biologist who over see the permit process and if someone provides me with an e-mail or phone number, i can relay that information to you. >> is it possible to get that information to ms. donahue? >> sure. >> thank you. >> so i think there is a question. go ahead. >> also, we don't have anyone in our department who has the skill set to tag a coyote. so we would need to go outside for
that. >> right, and we are not discussing who you have or who you don't have. i think what we are asking, i think the public's clear about some of the things that we can do or should do, and that's why i ask about the permit. the process of determining what we need to do and who do we need we'll find out. that's why i asked earlier if it was a premature question about what kind of resources do we need. it's time for the city, i feel, to put some resources into this to start addressing this more aggressively. the data collection is one thing. can we actually do for instance, we can't identify the coyote. it's tough to know whether any of our pets would be -- successful.
we need to move the coyotes successfully in a more desirable place where we have fewer interaction with our residential area. if that's a positive thing, we should know that is happening. i think the only way we can do that is if we actually track them. i'm very interested in making that happen. what i need to know is how we can make it happen and what kind of resources, in other words, what kind of funding do we need to bring in these experts. what the residents in my district is asking that we need to cough up the resources for that. it's important we take care of this. so that's where i'm coming with that. >> okay. i can look into that and getd back to your office. we have talked to the usda
in utah and colorado, but i do not know if they are able to come to and do that for us and there is cost. if they are not able to do it, i don't know who else is and they can look into it. >> i wouldn't expect you to know today. but what i'm asking is to go ahead and do some research on it and maybe an area not that far away from here, maybe in california. there must be someone in california. that's the type of research we need to do. i don't know if any of the presenters spoke with uc davis. i got this from bridget. do you have this report? >> i do not, but i bet i can get that from bridget. >> i heard some good things
about it. i haven't seen a report. so, maybe that report will shed some light into how we can approach this. >> wool -- we'll take a look at it. we are opening to anything that comes along. this is a new field. >> thank you very much, ms. donahue. >>supervisor david campos: thank you. it's very difficult in so many respects actually and i do believe that it requires a lot of people to do a lot of things. as a dog owner, i certainly want to do everything i can to protect my dog winston. but, one thing that i appreciated was that presidio trust talking about the payment they are doing where they are trying to do a number of things including having account of how many coyotes there are. you know, i agree with
supervisor yee that i want the city to have a better sense of what the estimate of how many coyotes there are in the city there actually is. i understand the fluid concept it seems to me that we have to have a better sense to that to know how to deal with this. is there a plan on the part of the city to do something like the pilot the presidio trust is doing? >> at this point the city's plan is to let the presidio trust do their work and learn from them what's effective. >> see, i don't think that's a good strategy. i think you should let them do that, but i think that i don't think we should have to wait until their work is completed. i would encourage you -- because their work is limited to the presidio. it's not like the rest of the city is going to
benefit from that. so i would encourage you to have our own strategy because, and i think that we can learn already from what they have done, but i actually think if we are asking the presidio trust to do the things they are doing, that we should be willing to do that ourselves as well. i think what i would hope happens in terms of the department as we go forward with the budget process, that maybe you can put together a plan including a budget that we can create, that we can add to the budget process. what i'm saying, as a dog owner, i'm willing to do what i can but i would like to know the city is doing what they can as well. waiting for the presidio trust to do it's work and look at that, to me that's
not proactive enough. >>supervisor norman yee: thank you, supervisor campos. i think what makes sense if it's practical, is the presidio trust is in san francisco. coyotes don't know what the border is between presidio and the rest of san francisco. it makes a lot of sense if we could actually see if we can expand your pilot throughout san francisco to have a little more comprehensive approach to this issue. so, i would like if possible for mr. young and ms. donahue to maybe have a discussion and bring it back to my office
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larsen. mr. clerk. do you have any thing to say is this. >> please silence all cell phones. items acted on today will appear on the april 5th board supervisors agenda. >> can we call item one. >> motion approving the direction of stephen [inaudible] for the fire commission january 5th ending 2020. >> do you have any comments? >> i do. thank you supervisor tang. i call this hearing today because the board of supervisors has a role to play. the san francisco fire department is over $300 million entity and one of the largest departments and up with of the most important departments to public safety in the city and county of san francisco. when the mayor a ports commissioner, directors, commissioners or board of
appeals, entertainment, police or utilities commissioners, the board of supervisor holds hearings and has a say in that meart matter. for whatever reason our city charter does not afford the automatic process for fire commissioners. yet they're very important issues happening in the fire department and serious concerns from labor and the board should have an opportunity to discuss this with our fire commissioner. in the four years -- let me go back a little bit. and say from the onset that i support commissioner hardiman and commissioner nikagio 100 percent. i served with them as a fire commissioner. steve is a with distinguished public servant.
mike hardman has given years offer is service to san francisco and is equally an institution in the labor community. this is not about opposing or second guessing the appointments of mr. nakagio or mr. hardiman. if my hearing sthawg, i do apologize. for all the people that came here to speak in support of the commissioner, i a shiewsh you you don't have to convince me. i squalled for the challenge not to challenge commissioner nakagio or commissioner hardman, this is simply an opportunity to address concerns in the department. so, whatever reason, as i said before, our city charter does not afford an automatic process for the fire commission. there are serious concerns that i have. and i'd like to spend this time
addressing the concerns and asking the important questions. in the last four years since commissioner na consideration argues gio and hardman were appointed, weave experienced a dramatic increase in call volume, spikes in response time and conflict between the administration an members. we made great progress on many issues and others remain unresolved. this morning is an opportunity, once we get only every four years for the board of supervisors to hear directly from the fire commissioner and members of the department and public to raise concerns they would like commissioners to address. so that is my hope for this hearing this morning. again, my intent is not to oppose commissioner hardman or commissioner nakagio or put anyone on the spot. my hope is to have a productive
conversation among the pyre commission board of supervisors and fire department. feas ait's an opportunity top to have a better understanding of what is happening with the department. with that, i will welcome mr. nakagio to the podium. >> it looks like supervisor mauer has some comments. >> i was going to thank supervise bree for. apologizing. commissioner hardman, tremendous support for labor stacks of letters but n nakagio for all the immigrant communities. i'm glad we have this comment not just to question the records but to celebrate the can
accomplishment in the communities and fire department. i want to say the outpouring of support for steve nakagio that came through all our offices is a testament to mentoring so many people like me. letters from rich hashimotoo to cathy and ester leon. but also broad expect sectors of the citywide communities show the support for these two hard working commissioners. i wanted to say that i'm glad we're using this time not to question their records or work on the fire commission, but to look at how we move the fire commission forward as well. those are my opening comments. >> all right, thank you very much. now we will a call up mr. nakagio himself.
>> good morning supervisor mauer. president bree, good morning. first ever all, i want to extend appreciation for the unprecedented comment of apology. myself understanding the prerogative of each supervisor within the realms that you narrated. i feel that this process is a process you have and the board of supervisors has to to quick commissioners being appointed in this case myself, questionings or subject matters pertain to is that. i wanted to, if i may, madam chair, pass to you, and i apologize, you only made three copies not knowing if you were going to be attending today. but the package and since supervisor cohen is not here,
perhaps the president might be able to see that or handouts. one egg segment of handout is accomplishments by fire department 2013/2014 with a page attachment that goes to 2014/2015, the last two years. also attached is a public safety hiring plan that talks about the commission and goes down to budget-related reinforcement to personnel within the fire department, which is a major, major issue. major issue in terms of acknowledgment this year that is significant is the fact that the mayor's office and caitd howard has sphepped up to help us in the fire department with our personnel needs. again, there are multiple yiewrs in any big city department, one of the issues was an issue of
mandatory overtime that talked to personnel and experience and relief and through the process, we've been able to do that by step-by-step processes in this accomplishment plan specifically and there might be references through the vehicle replacement program. let me begin first of all and again in the spirit of education, and the spirit of shared resources, i was appointed by willy lewis brown junior mayor of san francisco in 1996, i was appointed with soroka. rose marry if he were dez ted solas we wered up the u.s. district court consent until the department could imcomplement
strategyings to end discrimination in the hiring and promotion of minority and women, firefighters. we worked extremely hard with the administration department to then as newly appointed chief rob rd demonds. from that time in 1996 through this year of 2016. the san francisco fire department is a very different place. in the series of can be accomplishments not singularly to myself, the commission is made up of five appointed commissioners by the mayor. in year 2002, the department and the commission adopted the candidate physical abilities test called a c-pac. this was a potentially difficult decision in the aspects of the
time coming from members of the union wells members in terms of appliances both in the physicality level, protecting the lives of citizens and health and safety of firefighters, recognized broadly by the san francisco firefighters and local 798, we adopted this particular program. as another narration or example with then president paul conroy, we adopted a policy of a vehicle replacement program on march 9th wednesday morning i was sworn as a fire commissioner reappointed by mayor lee, this basically would have significantly added to the participation that this would be my 21st year of certify certifys have. in 21 years of searching as a commissioner to the fire department. i've gained special knowledge and expertise regarding
operation budget and administration. i have a keen historical institutional knowledge. i felt that my oversight and responsibility was to provide stability and reliability to the department. my philosophy was to be hope to all employees groups and membership and officers on any issues that were pertaining. my personal goals within the fire department within 20 years was too take care of business, the order of business to attend meetings on a regular, balanced measure in the sense of consistent attendance. at a point of information in 2010 i had cancer. i had surgery, i had chemotherapy and during those two months of recovery, for look at the record of attendance, i also participated in the various meetings. that is nothing about talking
about what one deck cates one's to. that's called taking care of business. we try, myself to attend as many participation, events, parades, drills. i think a two-alarm fire is significant to a three-alarm or four-alarm. a car accident. anything that is related to the accomplishments and responsibilities of the department, ri try earnestly to participate within that. there is a hard responsibility in terms of maintaining objectivity and subjectivity when they choose to do an appeal case to the commission rgs, that we act within that role, particularly to provide fairness to the rights of the membership, but also taking everything into consideration. i pride myself to disagree to disagree. i pride myself to act in a
civil, professional manner with respect to we can try to accomplish the business of the department. most exciting program beyond all the excitement of the support is our present e.m.s. 6 program which talks to the homeless, chronic users in the streets of san francisco. with the tone of council men of services for the homeless population of san francisco, the fire department is doing its share within that program. i'll stop at this point because i know there is public comment. there are many individuals who have come today to voice their participation and i would lake to respect that. >> thank you very much for your presentation. i appreciate the detailed run through of all the accomplishments, given your time serving on the commission kidd think you've answered quite a few of my questions through that. i think supervisor bree has some comments or questions. >> thank you for being here
commissioner nakagio. as i said before, there snow need for you to impress upon me the importance of making sure you continue to serve on the fire commission. it was an honor to serve with you. i lerved learned a lot from your comments and questions and i appreciate all that you've done to serve the city and county of san francisco. not just in your capacity as a commissioner, but in your capacity as an important part of saving japan town and so many other amazing things you continue to do for the city and county of san francisco. when i first served on the commission the first year, one of the most frustrating experiences is that you and i both shared was the lack of driefers diversity in the department. after 10 years we finally had a new class that we were able to
hire and in that class, there wasn't one african-american man that was in the class of i think over 20 individuals. you and i raised concerns with the chief in the lack of diversity in our frustration, we continued to voice that concern over the years. can you tell me what is happening now with the department? i mean, as you know, we've dealt with lawsuits and we continue to deal with complaints of harassment and other issues that continue to persist in the department. i just want to know your feedback on what is going on with the department, your perception anded what are you continuing to do to address the situation of issues aroun of discrimination within the department? >> i'm one member of a
five-member commission. diversification is a high priority. we in or policy role do the best we can to point that out to the chief and administration. the class that we had recently with the approval of the mayor's office is at least as you may know, being a former fire commissioner, the first time in many years that we've had repeated classes within that. within the change of the department in terms of women, folks. candidates of color. we've been an advocate for those numbers. as you look at that, you'd see those individuals. in terms of the particular cases you talk about, i'm privy to it only in the discussions as fire commissioner. those issues were addressed at training, at one point in
innuendos or charges of racial discrimination or harassment, our present chief rowena williams, chief of the training division is an african-american woman. not to say that a woman haven' can't have oversight but that's a good indicator that we're trying to pay a lot of attention to that particularly. the other issue is the issue of again, being able to have funding to have classes. that really has helped a lot with the operation of the department and the increasing numbers of diversity that we continually, admittedly need to play an oversight within that but that is something we're trying to work hard on and be part of that. we recently got a correspondence that the city and county and chiefs office is going to be one
subject matter that was chosen nationwide in terms of that discussion on the question of diversity. >> i think part of what i found frustrating as a former commissioner was just, you know, ultimately, the chief does decide who the individuals are that basically are finally chosen for those particular classes. and, again, you know, there has been a lot of frustration on those decisions. from your perspective, you feel based on your feedback you do teal that it's getting better in terms of the decisions on selecting a diverse group of candidates for the new classes. >> i do. and i'm sayin saying that there is still an on-going process of oversight on that. when you're a member of fire commission, president breed, there are situations where
applicant poll was numb tbrers 6,000 to 7,000 the class was a class of 36. a class was offered once every three or four years. we have a factor now that applicational process is a national test. so the national test increases the candidates countrywide. anyone can apply for entry within the san francisco fire department. in the 20 years of being a fire commissioners in terms of who chooses the candidates for the h-2 class, as far as i snow by the charter, by the rules for everything that i asked in previous years, it is the prerogative of the comeef. withi chief, within that framework. we try, us the commissioner, everyone else. we had a recent hiring of recruitment personnel within the department that is going to keep the focus within those communities of diversity and try to bring it back. the more classes we have, the more opportunities.
one more other factor, in those classes that we have now, which numbers have increased, we're tacking certain number from station 49 which are made up of paramedics to give them an opportunity of a promise made years ago that paramedics would have an opportunity to serve as h-2 suppression. >> i want to ask another sensitive question. after members of the united employees group which is all the employees group that serve with the fire department, voted no confidence in the leadership of the department. the mayor placed the responsibility to act opt commission. can you tell me the steps the commission has taken in order to act and what the feedback has been in resons to that particular group of individuals on what you have done as a commissioner? or what the commission has done as a whole to address that issue? >> president breed and welcome
supervisor cohen, i want to be able to reiterate that i like to share this withs much information as i'm allowed to share. allowed to share, peen means if it's a personnel type of issue, i'm not able to disclose that. i'll candidly because i was a member of the commission at that time. pretty much the consensus is by at that action of no confidence and the diversification and communication of local 798 and the first time of a coalition of employ i don't thinks' group, i as president initiated an evaluation. in the 149 years of the san francisco fire commissioner, the commissioners have never pro vieted an evaluation on the chief. in order to learn how to do it right, in communication with hr
and communication with the city attorney's office getting guidance within that, i wanted to find out the gros process of evaluation with the chief is previously. i found out that hr with the mayor's office has an evaluation format that has been in practice for years. again, president beed breed. many of us, i will address it, weren't privilegey that during that evaluation period that we didn't have a check-off or a mechanism or process, but that's the way the practice has been. i as president and the support of the rest of the commissi commissioners with the cooperation because i wanted us to get real about this, the mayor of san francisco who is the mayor and chief executive officer of the city and county, i wanted his input as to the process of evaluation that we
first time will conduct. not wanting to make any errors at all. in that, mayor approved the mayor said basically orders of the day was a fair and professional evaluation. >> with that, we took many, many different evaluation forms from hr and reduplicating the process over and over again. part of the challenge was we needed a crumb for this particular issue on closed session. so we had numerous closed sessions with the city attorney's office as to conduct ourselves within process and at least i can share with you we agreed upon one form that was consistent with the form that hr has been using with chief. we conducted an evaluation. president breed, we conducted the evaluation. we've had two or three closed sessions on that dialogue.
i'm not going to be able to talk about anything in there, because of privacy rights and is up of personnel, but we did conduct and had lively discussions, i believe it was during the wh holidays, there was effort to get some decision mechanisms done the holidays of 2013 and 2014. it went beyond that, as we concluded, what hr instructed is we take our evaluation and send it up to the mayor's office. we did that. i asked mayor lee to meet with every one of the commissioner to get our individual feedback beyond our summary. i, as president. pushed for i'm president, a significance-month review. the six-month review because our
leadership is collective, even though i was president then, the vice president had the prerogative on her plate the six-month review was conducted. therthere were benchmarks set up in order to make the six month review obtainable, doable, make some sense of it, we put down their expectations and went over that with the chief in a closed session so that will would be evaluational benchmarks. that now has moved to president currently, president francine cohenson. the last order of business with the six month review might have been with two months ago, we concluded that particular component. what happens next is the prerogative of the president. >> so, tell me what you think
the additional, i think over $34 million that we added to the fire department's budget last year, do you think that has helped significantly with the operations of the department and how do you think that helped? >> it has significantly helped the department. as you know, our department, during the deficit years cooperated with then mayor newsom and we took a lot of cuts. some of the prams programs were just starting to restore. the personnel issue are the men and women who come into the department, talking about the ambulances, vehicle replacement, talks to that, dollars to the training department, talks to the h-1s. h-2 paramedics, e.m.t.
technicians. talks to again, we have a bond issue on station 49 which is the headquarters that we would like to establish toward paramedics. we are mow looking at concluding again a combination of resources. the easter bond 2010, 2014, district station five renovation is coming up. for us, it's being able to restore some of the cuts to the various areas of operation to the department but add personnel. personnel costs dollars even within our analysis of i.m.s.-6, you'll see more -- ems-6. when you were with us president breed, when it came to budget requests, most of our time different from what it was and
currently now, what we asked for is what we know we knead need in terms of operation. we'd rather have the board of 150u7 visors in office know what it's going to cost in san francisco to operate a fire department on all levels of suppression and emergency medical services and a population that will soon be 1 million people. >> with that, we know that additional dollars has definitely helped, but the complaints continue to persist. there are issues around morale with members of the department. do you think that the relationship between the chief and the members can be repaired? >> i hope so. i hope so. i pray for it. i hope. pray and hope are words that are futile. i want to work together with the members of the union, chiefs office, employee groups and look
at what we need as a department in terms of operation and funding. the issues of morale, i hear it and see some of it, but i see a lot of support as well. if terms of whatever needs to improve in the department, i'm of the being that you work together to try to improve the problems. that's what i'm hoping for. and to be quite frank, president breed and members of the rules committee, my reappointment for another four years, by the charter, is with the dedication and goal toss improve those kind of issues you talk about. if you're not at the table, you can't contribute to solving the problem. being outside is being outside. >> and i just, again, my frustration has a lot to do with the fact that as i served on commission, and as i'm now on the board of supervisors and as these problems continue to
persist, civil grand jury reportoureport outlined a number of issues and i continue to be the person that a number of meps reach out to about specific situations that they think put not only their colleagues in danger, but threaten public safety in certain scenarios including recent situation that happened, the fire -- i'm sorry -- it's escaping me right now. there was a situation that happened recently where they didn't have the appropriate equipment to pry individuals out of a particular scenario and there continues to be issues of that nature. the fleet replacement and other things that we need to do not only as a city, but as a
department, losing out on grant opportunities and things like that, there are continued scenarios where the ball sometimes is dropped and ultimately even if it's not directly the chief per se, it's the chief's responsibility to manage the department well. and make sure that things are running in a way that doesn't jeopardize public safety. and i'm committed to supporting the department regardless. i always have been to the point of pushing for additional support. but it is really frustrating to me when that support may not be used properly or pushing for new hires doesn't mean that those new hires are african-americans or that, you know, there continues to be issues around discrimination and issues with the department. i mean, it's frustrating. i would hope that, you know, anyone who is in charge of
department whether it's the commission or the chief that they are focused on trying to build bridges, develop relationships and demonstrate by example that they care about mending the fences and dealing the challenging issues but also that they're capable of dealing with these complex issues. that's my concern and why, as a said to you before, i wanted to host this hearing as an opportunity to have the hard discussion. we can't just pretend that the problems don't continue to persist. we do need to have these kinds of conversations in order to try o fix them and make things better for the department as a whole. as i told you before, i'm committed to that. i appreciate you being here and thank you for answering my questions. >> president breed and supervisors, i as a commissioner welcome any of your questions, any of your concerns. anything you hear because we
don't hear it all, part of it for myself is a road to try to be accessible for what is going out there. please keep that line of communication open to us and i welcome it. thank you. >> thank you, supervisor mauer. >> i wanted to respond that i don't think this should be about, [inaudible] record. it shows the fire commission because of outpouringal records of support for commissioner hardiman and nikagio and i think it recognizes the importance of the fire commission. i want odd give a personal story. i think steve nikagio was talking about taking care of business. my house burned down on second avenue and clement.
my mom and i were out on the street. steve came by right at the same time as we were trying to figure out what to do with our lives. i think it's an example of taking care of business but also treating service on the fire commission seriously. i think the evaluation of the chief is a good thing. there has been a lot of amazing accomplishments that you and the other commissioner have made on the commission. i'm glad that president breed from the firefighters local 798 that are in the room as well stlg commission, i did want it say also that commissioner hardiman has 30 years on the executive bored and there is tremendous support. but the two of you holding the chief and the department accountable, i'm appreciative of that. and the good communication with the mayor's office and others as different challenges to chief hayes white has come up. the pishts speak for themselves
selves. the letters speak for themselves selves. i wanted to acknowledge that bob hamakuchi and alice [inaudible] had letters of support as well. >> i would associate myself with the comments he made and i think that when we look at any department and' department head, we'll probably see that it's not all 100 percent, you know, positive. all the time. as we would wish. i know that certainly because we're involved with public safety departments that they tend to have a lot more light shined on them. to me, i'm looking for people who really take their job seriously as commissioner. or committee members. and that they attend meetings. that they do what they should be doing to ensure accountability. that they are committed to moving the department forward.
and the extensive community involvement looking at your resume, i don't know what you have not done yet in your life. and i think this those are the values and traits that i'm looking for if a commissioner. it's not about position or sides being taken, it's are you doing the job. i've heard time and time again that you are one of those commissioners who actually goes out on the scene more often than not. again, to truly understand what is going on, thank you for your service after all these years. if there are another other economies or commence i'm going to open it up to puck lk comment. >> i thank you again supervisor mauer. i'm talking about when that fire occurred with yourself, when i was in 8th grade growing up in san francisco, my house was arsonned. we had a four-alarm fire. i'm the guy that in the family
yelled "fire fire" and watched everyone come down the staircase. my mom was the last up with coming down. she made it, but everything got burned on her hair. as a person who went through that experience, watching the department and even god bless the red cross, anyone who provides for that kind of comfort, that was the extension of convert comfort i wanted to extend. madam chair, what is the process that occurs after this rules committee? does it -- >> so today, our committee will be takes action in terms of, there is a motion to approve or reject the mayor's reappointment. the committee members will make a motion to either approve or reject. >> and the board needs to vote on that?
do we know when that is calendared? >> we don't have a board meeting next week but -- it's thursday -- so april fifth. >> april fifth to the full board. >> that's correct. >> thank you. >> i bring supervisor breed. >> i wanted to invite tom o'connor who is the representative of the united can employees group up to make some comments. >> can he speak during public comment? >> i wanted -- >> i'll invite him to come up during public comment. >> i wanted him to speak separately from public comment. >> i can invite him first. at this moment the person to speak is mr. nikagio. so i'm going to call um tom o'connor. >> any members that want to speak on item one. i have some comment cards.
>> good morning supervisor i'm tom o'connor president of the san francisco firefighters 7098. first ever coalition comprised of every employee organization within the fire department. we represent the asian firefighters soargs. black firefighters association, paramedic association. e.m.s. officers association. fire chiefs association, our newly formed lgbtq group and united fire service women. together we've joined to form this group as an organization dedicated to public safety and public policy. our goal is it to improve the services for san franciscos in fire and emergency services. foad we're not here tone gauge in political theater or fight the nomination of these two fine men. but i guess there was a rumor of drag down or battle. is they we marshal a broad coalition.
we hate to dispoijt disappoint everyone but we're not here to do that. rather than play politics or pop laition later we want to address public policy and safety. this is an appropriate time to raise concerns to the honor member of this committee and the two commissioners who will soon be repientd to new terms. the bard of supe supervisors heard about the problems within the department. in towrn the members of the fire department took a vote of no cched in our chief. these results were overwhelming with more than 806 of our firefighters voting and 87% vote nod confidence in the chief. every single employee group within our fire department agreed that the lack of leadership was having a negative impact on service ot people of san francisco. nothing has been done to address these issues. we hope that as these
commissioner embark on another term they take a much more aggressive stance in improving the san francisco fire department. >> thank you, madam chair, can you please finish your statement. >> thank you. in july of 2015 just a few months after ow no-confidence vote the civil grand jury of san francisco releets leased a report the san francisco fire department what does the future hold. this state what had our firefighters were saying fer several months and continue to say that the san francisco department has a lack of leadership. no strategic plan. lack of paramedics and ambulances and a fleet on the edge of crisis. the chief's response to this report would say the department was doing better and everything is fine. the chief was partially correct. weigh spons times have improved but they're nearly double that of city likes los angeles. we received more ambulances but our fire trucks and engines are
breaking down on a regular and routine basis. we are a currently working on a strategic plan, but this is only at the urging of former former commissioner erchs and it's a bizarre process that i 2350e8 we're doing the work of an executive who should know how to meept the changes of a growing city. the leaders of the groups are here to join 1500 other firemen and paramedics to say everything is not fine with the san francisco fire department. thanks to the leadership of the board of supervisors including the members of this committee,, our fire department has gotten additional resources over the last year an we're starting to hire the people we need. but the lack of leadership and the direction in the department remains. here are some of the facts facing our department today as mentioned before, our ambulance response times are double that of other major american cities. for point of reference, the lax lags fire department has a
response time of 5½ minutes and we're half that. the lack of ambulances, there is 50% of our fleet exceeded a 10 year lif lifespan and our engines and trucks are breaking down september 1319th of last year we witnessed the if sfsd chose not to respond to what became the second worst fire in our history -- >> madam chair, we are dweating off topic. this is about the appointment of two commissioner. i appreciate that i'm not sure if this is the right forum for this. >> i think it is the right forum. >> okay, excuse me, this is public comment. i know there are issues about the fire department that qeed' like twe'd like to address. we continue to hold hearings on that. today weigh need to focus on the
commissioners before us. right now we're on steve n irgs kagio. if you can please line up owe over here for the comment cards. sebastian wong. kirk niwaka. marion erickson. >> supervisor mauer, supervisor tang. cohen and president ever the board, i'm sebastian wong, i am a member of the board of directors of self-help for elderly. i'm here with my executive director annie chong. i want to voice my support for the reappointment of commissioner nikagio. i've known him for 20 years. he's been a person of integrity and certifys have to the city. i'm proud to count him as a
friend. i hope as you move his resolution forward to reappoint him to the board, that the board also take note of his distinguished commitment to the asian pacific islander community and his numerous contributions and will vote him in as a member of full board. i deeply appreciate president breed's concern and interest in the workings of the fire department and thank you to the board for caring so much to make our fire department better. >> thank you, next speaker please. >> thank youer in opportunity. i was very surprised o to hear of what i thought was a challenge. but i'm glad to hear it's not a
challenge on mr. mikagio's abilities. he has much more to provide for san francisco and members of the fire department. thank you. >> next weeker please. >. >> good morning supervisors, i'm sandy morey speak not only for myself but for my husband jeff who couldn't be here today. i will defer nie comments. i think all the accolades for mr. nikagio has been given and i trussennen -- trust you'll move forward. >>i forward. >> annie chupg, nicole jurychovac. >> i'm mary ivasaky, i'm a priet citizen recommending myself as
much today. all the accolades have been said with steve and he is a person that has gone through adversity. both personal and with the fire department an commission. i think i think he listens hears and acts necessarily when these bad moments come. i think if we're looking for changes with the fire department, we'll see them from him and from the other commissioners. especially hearing what you've said and on the reports that have been made. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> supervisor i'm bob homohamaguchi and i'm here with
the board of directors with the town task force and join me in sieping our letter of support for mr. nikagio. we should yield this to more important business of the board, but we urge that you continue forward with the appointment recommendation to the board and thank you for the opportunity to be before you. >> thank you for giving us an opportunity to support steve nikagio and all he's done over the years and we continue to pray that he can serve for the commission. and help the city of san francisco to improve their services. >> next weeker. >> good morning fair woman tang. supervisor mauer. i am o.j. leonardo. thank you. can i'm speaking on behalf of
asian firefighters association. and we support commissioner nikagio's reappointment 100 percent. 100percent. he takes action on his community and prepares and mentors the next generation for the future as noted by supervisor mauer. commissioner ni can kagio has dedicated his life to his community and city. he's a living legend in the asian american community. we've seen it i'm and again, you see it in his eyes and his smile on the streets of china up to. you see it in the cherry blossom festival and know it by the countless youth who follow miss example by volunteering and working in their community. we are urge you to reappointment
mr. nikagio to the pyre commission. >> thank you, next speaker. >> good morning, supervisors on behalf of japanese from japan, i would like to express our support for the appointment of dmitioner initiation ikagio. he's not only a great leader for japan town but immigrants. i have a 2-year-old son who never sleep with me but sleep with fire cars. such a firefighter, such a hero for children. it's great for us to tell uncle nikagio is helping for the fire department in san francisco such a beautiful diverse city. thank you so much for your support. thank you. >> thank you, a couple more mark jonson, richards nas
nashmotto. >> i'm angie chung and i'm here to speak about mr. steve nikagio's reappointment for the fire commission. i want to share two sfis is it sticks, one is -- statistics. one is san francisco is reaching 19% elderly population. i feel that i've worked -- i've known and worked with steve for over 0 years. he's a solid citizen. heart of gold and very, very dedicated to the fire commission or else he wouldn't have served on this commission for over 20 years. today as reappointment is about steve, the work that we did and he's still doing. the fire department is a big huge depth. huge-- huge departm. he's working through all these issues in his own way. i know with him representing our community on the fire
commission, i feel safe. thank you very much. >> next speaker, please. >> good morning, i'm nicole i'm here to speak on the issue concerning steve nikagio to the fire commission. i'm a product of san francisco having grown up in the west division like view supervisor breed. i'm a 19 year veteran and the fire chief. i've known commissioner nikagio since i was a kid. my own 77-year-old mother has been a recipient of many hot meals in japan town where she still resides. the commissioner not only helps to feed the elderly population for many, many years but provides them with a social outlet where they can have
contact with others. the commissioner has a platform by which many fire science students at city college of san francisco engaj in various senior center activities. as an instructor, both the faculty and i appreciate this very much as it builds in our students all of woman wish to be future san francisco firefighters and all of whom who represent the stiff san francisco and give them a strong sense of community service and giving back which is the crux of being a firefighter. i understand there are concerns about commissioner nika gorksio's reappointment. i trust and believe he's a man who strifes to do the right thing and is a man who is capable of reflecting on what he did well and what may have left a little bit to be desired. i trust he can and will reflect on his time on the fire commission and what occurring
now and improve on the things he could have done better. that's is what a leader does, not because he has to but because he ultimately cares about people and this will be fire commissioner nikagio's opportunity to do that. >> thank you. >> next speaker please. if i didn't call a comment card, please free to line p up along the wall there. >> i'm richard has hashmotho. mr.nikagio should be an example to the entire city of san francisco.
i sore mr. nikagio and the merchants association supports him. >> next speaker. >> madam chair, members of the committee, i'm mark johnson i'm the battalion chief and president of the san francisco black firefighters and. while we do support the reappointment of commissioner nikagio and hardiman, we have our frustrations about the broken areas in the san francisco fire department among which is the promotional process which i'm here to talk about this morning. i don't need to spend a lot of time on the dismal history when it comes to promotions. it was monitored by a federal court. once the decree was lifted, the department went backwards. it's still a disgrace as it
stands owt today. gone are the days when the rank and file could be fooled into thinking the testing process was legitimate and that it was only a few angry black guys complaining about it. the -- through the lawsuit, the truth has come out. there are several protective orders from lawsuits. the tests have been called invalid and the scoring with a bad an manipulated. the members of the department -- members from every group have joined together to fight to demand change. ap example of the vote of no. c. wins thawins that are hard-fought but where was the commission to take the lead to make some of the changes in the fire department that's been required to get the tests fair, it's been the work and the hard
work of firefighters and our lawyers, highest to bring about change. what i would lo like to say is we hope the commissioners do use this time to make changes to the fire department. >> next speaker, please. >> good morning, i'm audrey moi. audrey moy. i'm adding on to what everyone else said. i think the commissioner nikagio has been concerned about the safety an well-being of everyone. the fact that three mayorss had appointed him, it's obvious they think highly of him. he has honored and received numerous commendations and
awards from various organizations. asian association, san francisco dict attorney's office for elder abuse and several local tv stations. he's respected as a leader and well-known in the community for the work he's dn and continues to do so. steve nikag quo has stated "i like all aspects of being a fire commissioner. most importantly the interaction with the men and women who make up the department and administration" that says a lot. i would like to add a little historical note in 1880, was the first year of the appointment of five commissions that are started the san francisco fire commission. 136 years later, the appointment of steve nikag quo to the fire commission added diersity to the organization. >> good morning i'm norm cob i'm
the president of the asian firefighters association. on behalf of the afa, we'd like to express our support for commissioner nikagio. he's not only a pillar of asian community with you one of the most respected leaders. i know he's fought for our community as far as back as the late 1970s. he's a he been a long time member of the commission. his tomorrow on and ge get along is part of what made the afa what we are today. weed aid like to applaud super vieder breed's efforts to make our fire department better. it lets you and other leader know about the issues. you know about our vote of no confidence for the chief. this is a primary problem because of the of trust, it allows no cooperation to get anything done. all our other issues are related. you have all been given a
kitchen the report. i urge you to read it in detail. here is a partial list of what they found, issues they found. us vur versus them he he atmosphere. lack ever response time, staffing equipment. disaster preparedness. lack of officers lack of routine incident analysis. missed grant funding. after all the years of trying, i doubt the current administration can solve these problems. the problem now is the mayor will not listen to us. he needs to mac a change in the fire department administration. i hope you can help with us that. >> next speaker please. >> good afternoon, supervisors and rules committee. steve nikagio lost his home to fire in the city ♪ ♪ and that was no easy task
♪ and i want him to get back ♪ get back to where he once belonged ♪ ♪ get back ♪ get back ♪ get back to the fire commission and pleads ♪ ?td keep i ♪ and keep it strong ♪ get back steve ♪ >> next speaker, please. can. >> supervisor i'm mike hooley, i'm a paramedic captain with the city of san francisco fire department. i'm the senior captain and i'm the president of the e.m.s. officers association. i do highly support commissioner nikagio's reappointment. as he may not remember. several years ago he rode with me during one of my shifts to see what the current status was at that time. i would encourage him to come back and ride with me again or one of my fellow paramedic captains so he can see what the
overall tenor is in the field. often times we we hear from our administrators may not accurately reflect what happens in the field. commissioner nikagio has continued to be supportive, but i strongly encourage him to put boots on the ground with us again. >> next speaker, pliez. >> siem jeff. i've been with the fire department 26 years. presently the director of training for the department. i've take than role recently. prior to that was the department of in-service training. i want to say what a big help to me in my last two roles commissioner nika imrgsio has been. every time i see him, he wants to know what you're doing and how it's going, what he can do
and it makes the position i'm in work that much better. while i've been working with the commissioner, my staff has put a training facility on treasure island and we're proud of that. i think our recruit classes that we put out now are bar non-with their backgrounds and diversity and commitment to the city and community, i'm proud of that and not to mention my staff at that makes that happen. i can't say enough for the commissioner and what he's done for me and the training and department. i would guess every person that's gotten up here with the fire department would agree with that and our training staff. thank you very much. >> can i ask a question, madam chair. >> yes. >> what are our plans for, i know we have to leave treasure island in the next couple of years. what are our plans for a new training facility? >> we're looking at sites now.
>> we don't is a long term plan to address the issue? >> our plan is to find a new site. we're aggressively looking at new sites now. i've been working with chief lombardi and workin working with companies like pg&e to find a new site. i've been told by meetings on the island we have until 2021 or 2022 that will happen. >> next speaker please. >> i'm cathy gilbrait. thank you president breed for bringing this to the table. i support commissioner nikagio and i've been on the recruitment
team for many, many years. he's invited us to meeting to advise him on our recruits and possiblies. it's been a pleasure to see his concern that our department remain diverse and strong. what i'd like to see in the future with the commissioner. we talked about coming to the table and communication between the supervisors and mayor, but to have the commissioners have a place where they can bring united employee groups to the table and have that discussion. until 2014 it was an awkward time when the department had a split in ideas or visions of where we were going and since that time, i've been to many commission meters where they've asked for updates and been proactive in trying to get the information. as vice president of the united fire certifys have of women, we haven't been asked to that
table. since it was a discussion that we initiated bag then, i think it might be somewhere where we could lerp something from. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker and again, if anyone would like to comment on item up with, please step forward. >> mark gonzales san francisco resident. i've been with the fire department 27 years. i want to back commissioner nikagio and commissioner hardi 3457b. the hardi -- hardiman. they compare about the citizens and the fire department. i feel this rules committee has veered off course today. i think other people use this as a sounding voice for something else. they're made to feel uncomfortable going through this. i don't think that should happen again before the full board. what i hear is 100 support behind them from everybody pretty much. i'd appreciate it on their
behalf they doesn't have to go through this comen. they're great commissioners now an they'll go forward and still be great commissioner. last thing i want to address is regarding diversity. i brought copies from the u.s. department of labor. after reviewing information collected, they selected our department as one of five in the nation to be profiled to identify prems and practices among diversity of first responders. that's a reflection of where the fire department is and where we're going. >> next speaker, please. >> can i ask the chief one thing. thank you for being here. >> if it's related to the appointment. >> it's related to his comments on diversity. do you have from the letter you provided us, do you have the specific numbers? >> i can get the specific numbers exactly. >> because that would be helpful to uns that and can you tell me,
i know you're deputy chief of 07 raitions and your responsibili -- operations and your responsibility is not necessarily address the kind of challenges that exist with the department in terms of issues around drim destination with testing and hiring practices and other things like that. does that fall in your jurisdiction? >> testing and hiring is done by dhr. so the selection is done by the chief. she does a good job. she interviews all the people that come in. it's a laborious process. i believe she does her due diligence in that respect. >> thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> >> good morning. super voorses. i'm keith baracc i'm a 20 year member of the san francisco fire department. i became a recruiter, before that i was a driver at ening gin 2 is rand engine 6 and
search-and-rescue on station 18. this is in regards to the commissioners. i don't have anything on both the dmairgs here that woor -- commissioners that we're here to talk about today but it's important to bring up the commission as a body. it speaks to their independence. how can the commission make independent decisions when they're all appointed by the mayor? the issue that you should think about is how we can make this body more independent. i think -- you have to think about given someone else their responsibility of appointing commissioner. they can't make independent decision if they're politically bound to the mayor's office. obviously they have support here today. i think what is important is that they haven't been ail to analyze the department in a way that gives them independent because ter' afraid of political ramifications. i think that's a real key point here. i think the supervisors should have a role in collect slecting
the commissioner. thank you. >> >> any other members of the public who wish to comment on item one. public comment is closed. i wanted to correct in terms of what i said in terms of the action we have before us today. we can amend it to approve or reject. eye teps one and two could be tabled by this committee and all at appointments will stand pursuant to charter section 3.100. so i just wanted to, again, correct what i stated earlier. supervisor cohen. >> thank you. good afternoon. thank you for being here. i want to recognize the leadership of commissioner nikagio and commissioner hardiman. thank you very much. 20 years is a long time of service. perhaps us up here will be fortunate enough to serve san francisco that long. i want to recognize that i have heard something in the public
comment that has been unifying. and that is anove an overwhelming support for commissioner nikagio. i think that's a testament to his leadership. leadership is not a cookie cutter form. i want to support president breed's leader higship for bringing an item that speaks to a larger problem with some of the underlying ap frustration within the fire department. i think that there are legitimate concerns and a ton of coverage and a ton of grand jury reports and several investigative reports and as you know, there have been legal challenges to the fire department's practices also dhr's practices. i think it would be unfair to sweep it under the rug and pretend it doesn't exist.
all of this which has happened under the 20-year commitment of service from mr. nikagio and mr. hardiman. there are issues for call to service response times. i've been concerned about the recruit pt, retention and promotion and cancer issues that exist within the fire suppression industry. i want to make sure that we as a city are providing all the resources and support needed to our people that are, when there is trouble, most of us one other way. we have a set of brave men and women running towards a problem. i want to affirm that i've heard what mr. keith baracca said particularly what he's calling into question is how independent can an oversight body be when there is one entity that has
sole appointment power. that is a legitimate question. one that this board has grappled with as well as previous boards of supervisors. you see the same thing happen in the m trgs a commission where they have one sole authority. therefore, commissioners are not really held to the same accountability standards that we as elected officials are held to. this is also a concern within the police commission. there are four appointments that the mayor's office makes as opposed to three with the board of supervisors. i just want to affirm to the folk that was come for public comment that i've heard your concerns are. particularly those that are in the employee groups. i'm sensitive to the working conditions that you're working under and will continue to work with you to get some changes, much-needed changes so that the environment you're working in is safe. i also want to let you know i
will be supports mr. nikagio this afternoon and commissioner, thank you very much for your service. and i also will be supporting commissioner hardiman as well for when we get to item number two. >> thank you, supervisor breed. >> thank you. i will be asking the rules committee to table the two items. because ultimately, my goal as i said before, was not to question their service but more porm little use this as an opportunity to discuss some challenges with the department. commissioners play a role in terms of making decisions about the department. they are in essence, a part of the leadership of the department. i think it is important that when we are appointing or approving any commissioners that serve the city and county of san francisco, we of course show our
appreciation for their leadership, for their service and dedication. more important, we ask the tough questions because we should never be so content or complacent that we're not trying to do everything we can to make all of our city departments especially our public safety department as safe and secure as possible. and, again, i want to express my appreciation to commissioner nikagio who i consider an outstanding public servant and i consider a friend and i appreciate many of members who have come out here to show support to him and. at this time i want to ask tom o'connor just a couple of last questions regarding the appointments specifically. if you could come forward to the podium. and i unfortunately have to
leave shortly soy want to get this wrapped up as quickly as possible. what is it you want the commission to do? can you be specific about that? >> i can be very specific. i was on my way o wrapping it up before i was cut off before. there is a nexus between what the fire commission does and what we read in the paper. a continual manage the of the fire department by reacting to crises and headlines. valley fire, inability to cut people out of a crushed tour because with equipment that is 10 years out of date. there is a distinct pattern here. if the commissioners were tasked by the mayor of san francisco with evaluating the chiefing executive of the fire department, that performance appraisal, that analysis should be made public. that view point of a critical city department should not be
done behind closed doors. would he aren't here to speak speek about pay or benefits or retirement packages, we're here to talk about the citizens of san francisco and the ability to do our job better. we don't want to be cut off at the microphone when we make a case that there is a crisis and we have concerns. if the fire commission is tasked with this important role -- >> madam chair -- >> supervisor mauer -- >> okay -- this -- >> i want to talk about -- >> i account you off at the microphone. if i let you speak here for addition duration of time. i can call you up the other individuals of fire department to do the same. i have to be fair. i'm not trying to do this to you or any other individual. if the this were another item i would do the saimed and supervisor breed would be upset that someone else had additional
time to speak on an individual. i'm trying to be fair here and i gave you more leeway to speak out of public comment time. that's why i cut you off. >> okay. >> there is a nexus between the renomination and public information as who how a head of a department is evaluated. the vote of 1500 san francisco firefighters to improve service to the citizens should not be met with silence. ask that the fire commission please reveal that information. it is simial. -- simial, sus spingt. >> i want to say that i welcome tough questions being asked of our commissioners and their
role. i think that's a good thing to do. i don't think that there is anything bad about calling commissioners before us asking questions about their role and what it is that we hope they should achieve. that is fine, the open dialogue. in terms of going into details about other issues that will take longer to address, again, you have called hearings before on this and we can continue to do that. i don't want it commission meeting that is about a an appointee to be dominated. you've seen how the rules committee is run. when we have commissioner up, we have them make their presentation and we have public comment. supervisor mauer. >> i just wanted to appreciate chair tang as a former chair of the rules committee, it's challenging to keep pro fussed on track record of our commissioners. there is a thin line to talk
about legitimate issues but there are other forums to do that. there is a thin line when it's crossed. it's so disrespectful to the commissioners when this happens. i appreciate our chair's ruling on it. i wish it didn't have to come so such conflict in this room. i just wanted to steer us back and i think the motion to the table are improper because you're not a member of this committee. >> i did make a -- i didn't make a motion. i made a suggestion. >> to support mr. nikagio and mr. hardiman. we need to address legitimate issues that make sense here but also as keith baracco mentioned, the shared appointments of commissioners and i support what he said as well. >> i will say that i would be okay with tabling the i' items
because that would stand pursuant to the charter instead of it being sent to the full board. i don't know if you want to consider that. >> my motion is to support the reappointments of steve nikagio and michael hardiman. >> okay. supervisor breed. >> i want it to be clear that i suggested the committee table the items. i didn't make a motion. i made it clear that my intention of this hearing was to continue, of course, 100 percent of commissioner hardiman and commissioner nikagio. but as i said, their role of commissioners is vital to the success of the department. this is definitely as far as i'm concerned, an appropriate discussion. it's interesting that there are supervisors who use so many
things as a platform for their own agenda. when i'm trying to bring up a legitimate issue that has a significant impact on public safety in our department, and we have these discussions, we've had similar discussions request appointments for police commissioners. why is this any different? we have all said clearly that we support these commissioner. we have all said clearly that we want to make sure this department has all the services, all the support, all that it needs to be the best public safety department anier. that's not the question here. but let's not pretend there aren't issues with the department. my desire as a member of the board of supervisors is to ask these commissioners to take a strong leadership role and support some of these concerns and to help as much as they can make change to the department. that's the goal here. and so, it it is what it is at
this point. as i said, i'm asking that this body tables the items so that this doesn't have to come to the full board and be heard, but if there is an opportunity to use something as a platform in order to make improvements to a department, so that we can ensure public that they safe, so that we can ensure the members that they have support from this body, then i'm going to do everything that i can to make sure that platform is used properly. so thank you all for being here today. thank you to the men and women who serve our department. thank you to commissioners nikagio and hardiman to your service. unfortunately i won't be able is to stay for commissioner hardiman's public comment. but i want to be clear that i wholeheartedly support these two commissioner and i appreciate this opportunity to have this really challenging discussion. thank you. >> thank you. supervisor mauer had made a
motion to amend item one to approve the mayor's reappointment. could we have a second? supervisor cohen? >> i do not plan to second the motion. i'd look to make a motion to table items one. >> do we have a second on that? i'm okay with tabling it. again, because it would confirm the appointment. do we want to role call? role call vote. >> can you just call the motion that you're going to be roll calling voting? >> roll call motion to table item one as maud by supervisor cohen and seconded by chair tang. supervisor mauer. >> no. >> viewp visor cohen. >> yes. >> tang. >> aye. >> >> we have two ayes and one no. >> item one is tabled.
item two, please. >> item number two is a motion approving or rejecting the mayor's reappointment of michael hardiman to the fire commission for the term ending january 25th, 20203 2020. >> eye a lieb to cal -- i'd look to call mr. michael hardiman. >> i'm sad to put you through this. but i commend the supervisor breed on her motive to get information out and to talking about a subject whether it's supervisor mauer says in the proper context. but any way, president of the board breed, chair tang, supervisor cohen, supervisor mauer. i think i'm going to cut this short.
thank you for your comments and thank you to people from the san francisco fire department including deputy chiefs, officers and rank and file that spoke on my behalf. mainly i want to thank 798 and the united employee groups for not opposing my appointment. because i'm the labor guy in activation. believe me, it is something that i mentioned to my wife marina sitting in the audience. maybe i don't deserve to be on this commission any more. this came up just before the mayor was going to reappointment me because i don't want labor to feel i let them down. but i think i made the right decision. they're not opposing me. i think president nikagio
described the situation how complicated it is adequately. we have a five-person commission who had no guidelines. mo performance analysis. analysis. then we have president nikagio getting this request as a leader of the commission setting the agenda. we have to call in council and talk to the mayor. it was a complicated process. i'm very sad that you have to go listen through it and it's still going on. but we hold the chief accountable. i have a list of dozens of different items presented to this commission a year and a half ago. not every tie testimony is covered but it's remarkable where this department has gone. march of 2014 we had 60 civilians.
march of 2015, 1480 uniforms. today march -- march this month we have 1601 uniform. that's from 1452, and # 6 civilians. the mayor has been phenomenal. he'd been trying to do everything. we have 90 new plans. last night we were notified that nine more are on order. when deputy chief two mark gonzales spoke about the viefersity, this is the most diversified department around. i certainly don't want to take any credit for that. but i'm proud to be on this commission. when we were selected, this is just one of the top five fire departments in the country, this
is the thousands and thousands of highway patrols, sheriffs, police, all different first responders. five were picked for the department of labor as being the models. and this department is one of them. so we're going to be interviewed. the paf staff will be in attendance and they're looking at how this was done. commissioner breed, supervisor breed, you will be amazed when you see the diversity, most women in the united states in any department, ?rx. it's not even close. i think minneapolis might be a couple belows. with you that's it. i'm going -- below us. but that's it. i've been on a number of commissions. no commission has worked harder than this commission. i will say commissioner evans,
covington, nikagio, dynamos. my 11-month-old grandson i've been wrapped up with. i don't think i'm more deserving of this commission than anybody else. if i'm appointed and if you decide to keep me going, we have the new fire boat three on the way for the 150th celebration. we'll be 150 years old this year. fire boat three is in the water. pretty soon we'll have our fire boat. there are a bunch of things i want to say. i thank you, i hope you'll give me the same support. if you're hear to speak against me, i hope you don't, but if you're hear to speak for me,
they have a long agenda. i don't know if i need it. >> any questions from the committee? surprisingly, no, i'm going to open it up to public comment. anyone who wishes to speak on item two please come forward. the only person i have is mark johnson. please come on up. >> michael hardiman,. ♪ here is comes ♪ fire commissions son ♪ here somes the son ♪ here comes the son ♪ and i hope to i say ♪ ♪ i hope you see the light ♪ i hope you see the sun and light ♪ ♪ for mike 12349 make it turn out right ♪ ♪ here comes the commission fire
son ♪ >> i'd like to reiterate what i said about commissioner hardiman and commissioner nikagio again. commissioner hardiman shows up to a lot of our pyres. he has our concern when it comes to safety. i gave you the statistics that president breed requested. >> next speaker. seeing no other speakers. public comment -- okay. seeing no other speakers, public comment is closed. so the reappointment of fire commissioner michael hardiman, is there a motion? >> sir, i'd like to table item number two. >> the motion is to table -- can we have a roll call. >> on the motion to table, made by supervisor cohen, seconded by supervisor mar.
supervisor mar. >> no. >> supervisor cohen. >> yes. >> supervisor cohen yes. we have one no and one yes. >> i make a motion to approve fire commissioner hardiman. that's my motion. >> >> supervisor tang, really quick, we have a motion on the floor. supervisor mar made a motion to move forward. supervisor -- commissioner hardiman. we just took a roll call vote for a motion. >> we kneeled a second on my motion to approve fire commissioner hardiman. >> i'm going to be consistent with my motion or my support on item one which is to table item two again to reconfirm. let at appointment stand. >> so -- >> there is no second to my
motion. now we're back to item two still. >> may i make i motion to rescind the previous vote to table the item. item two. there is a second for that motion? >> second. >> all right and if we could do a col call on tabling. >> supervisor mar. >> no. >> supervisor mar no. supervisor cohen. >> yes. >> supervisor tang. >> aye. >> item two is now tabled. i'd like to ask if we could call up item four out of order only because item three and four are about the mta board of directors. but for item three, miss rubkey is not available. >> item four is reject or appointment to mr. heinke.
>> mr. heinke, please come forward. >> good morning. thank you, supervisors. >> you may proceed. >> i may proceed. i will try to be brief if you have questions, but i have had the chance to meet with supervisor tang and i did have the chance yesterday to meet with supervisor cohen, staff member and i might offer a compliment. meeting with her is wul. she's smart and articulate and it was great to talk through some of the items with supervisor tang. this is my third full term. this will being my third full term on the mta. and so i've done this before. i'll be brief but wanted to cover three points and answer any questions you may have. first, i'd look o cover what i've a seen. i realize that the mta is a slow
turning ship. but i think the agency has turned a corner. i have seen improvement in the way the agency is functioning as you a board member an i've seen improvement as a rider and i do ride the system every day. it's my primary form of transportation. but that change is coming slowly. i did sit in a 30 minute train delay this morning due toy mechanical issue. i did want to report to the board because we don't get o often speak directly and puck lkly to you that i think the agency is on the improvement ond our cuss more polling suggests that. i think that's due in large part to one key change and that was bringing in director riskin and our new director of transportation. he's fantastic. very dedicated, very professional and someone i enjoy
working with. where we're going as we head into this next what would be a four-year term for me, there there are two items i wanted to specify for you all that i see going on. first, i think being one of most if not the most senior board member, i would bring some institutional knowledge and experience that would be helpful on some of the things that would seem more mundane to the public but are important to the agency. for example, we'll start union negotiations relatively soon. that is something you've been worked through before. with staff. and in addition, there are financial issues we'll confront. one is the issue of the fund reserve and the fact that i was a board member when service was threatened by state budget cuts. the fund reserve was critical to our maintaining service. those are the sorts of things i look forward to using my
institutional knowledge to help the board with particularly as we transition chairs. it is my hope that when tom nolan our current chair is turned out, our current vice chair and my friend sheryl brinkman will become the chair and i hope to help her in that transition. i'm not suggesting she'll need my help, but i look forward to helping her. finally specific projects going forward. it is important for each board member to identify projects that they focus on particularly and like to see forward and as i discussed with supervisor tang recently, i do villea great affinity for our taxi industry. i think it's important that our board work with our staff in the industry to help it through what is a difficult time right now with the competition from the tncs and i will continue to dedicate myself to doing that particularly through regulation
relaxment and traffic control if expanded red carnts and taxicabs will help them, i'll support that. and i've been a strong proponent for expanding the ban on public cars. private cars, excuse me on market street. that is something i would like to see go forward and really be sort of a paradigm or example for other transit improvement throughout the city. i've tried to cover what i've seen and what i plan in the small and big picture, with that, supervisor tang i'll stop and say it's been a pleasure to serve on the mrgs ta. i value my colleagues on the bored and staff. it's an important job and i appreciate the trust the mayor and you will place in me here. >> and i did enjoy our conversation prior to the rules hearing committee and appreciate your service on the board. this is just a general comment
about the mta board of directors. we've had at least a particular vacancy for a while. this is not really directed at you, but in general, it's important to have that balance of perspective on that board, people who ride public transportation on a regular basis. people who ride and walk and drive as well. we haven't had someone who has represented for example the families on the west side with children or seniors. who may need to drive. so, i really hope that the mayor will make an appointment soon. for that particular roll. because i think that these decisions that you have to make, they're often challenging and in our push to really encourage people o ride public transportation, there has to be that careful weighing of the needs of different types of communities. again, i just happen to represent be districts where a
lot of people rely on cars for various reasons. we have a high population of seniors and families with children. so i hope you'll have a new colleague soon who can represent some of those views. >> as i've a said before i'm a firm believer transit first. but that doesn't mean drivers never. we want to make transit as efficient as possible. i can't appoint the new mta member. but as we live close to where you live, my wife does drive our three children a fair amount. i am definitely sensitive to the needs of the drivers and while meg, my wife is not on the board, he's a good advocate and has my er ear. i agree that's an important voice and i hope that there is comfort at that may family
represents a part that have constituents si. >> supervisor mar. >> i wanted to say, commissioner heinke, i think the mta commission is one the most thankless. you put in so much work and there are so many benefits to the city. i wanted to thank you and say that i'm strongly supportive of your reappointment as well as commissioner [inaudible] as well. >> first of all, you're welcome and second all, thank you for saying that. it's a thanks that comes slowly. but we see the system getting better. i think the six of us take pride in that, but your comments are appreciated. >> thank you very much. any other questions or comments from this committee? seeing none, we're going to open up item four to public comment. >> thank you, supervisor. >> good afternoon, i'm sheryl brinkman i serve as the vice chair of the board of director and i'm here o support the
reappointment of director heink representing and rupee. what we have in common on all the boards and commissions is a desire to see this city be the best it can be and a deep love of city. we're so fortunate that two people like christina and malcolm will take time from their lives and families to guy the mta and push us to be the best we can be. i know already fellow board members and mta staff appreciate the knowledge and dedication they bring and i hope you'll agree that they're important members of the board and support both for reappointment. i would like to echo what director heinke said in the deep pride and sense ever accomplishment in seeing the agency move forward and we do take the needs of all of our citizens into account when we make decisions about the transit agency, about policy and goals
that we have. i know that ihear it from my coworkers downtown. when they talk about their commute on muni around town. one of betion things we can do to help out car drivers, because everybody needs though drive at some point. i droof myself occasionally when i can't do feg to avoid it. the best thing we can do is to continue to move people by bike, muni and trips on foot. i'd like to ask for the support of these two fabulous directors. >> thank you. i see mr. paulson. ♪ he's going back to the mta board ♪ ♪ ear he comes ♪ he's going back to the mta board ♪ ♪ because that's where he
belongs ♪ ♪ he rolls his wheels with great traction ♪ ♪ he's going back to the mta ♪ board ♪ no he's not gone ♪ going back to keep it strong ♪ >> thank you very much. any other members of the public who wish to comment on item four? public comment is closed. colleagues, i'm very supportive of director heinke. i think he should continue and he's done a wonderful job in his role as director. if we're going to talk about things that the department can improve, there is lots to talk about with mta but there is already a lot of improvement. do we have a motion to confirm -- to amend the motion to confirm the mayor's reappointment of malcolm heinke to the board of displerkts looks like there is a second. we can take that without objection. congratulations. now we'll call up item -- we'll
move three to last since director rupee is not here -- actually yes, supervisor cohen. let's take item three since director rupee is not here any way. >> item number three motion confirming or rejecting the appointment of christina rupee to the term. >> director rupee could not make it here today. i did meet with her to talk about what she's done in her role. colleagues, if you have anything to add, if not we can open up item three to public comment. >> ♪ please let the reappointment be ♪ ♪ let it be ♪ let it be ♪ there will be an ♪ reappointment ♪ let it be
>> thank you. thank you. any other members of the public on item three? public comments close. do we have a motion on item three? >> i'd like to make a motion that we reappointment to the municipal transportation board of directors chris rupee. >> seconded by -- supervisor mar and take that without objection. thank you very much. >> thank you and just for the public, those are recommended as amended to confirm. >> exactly. thank you. all right, item five, please. >> item number five si hearing to consider appointing two members terms ending april 10th 201 2017 and march 10th. >> we have -- if any of you are here, please come forth and make a presentation.
when you come forth state your name. >> amy landgraph. i'm amy land graph, i have the great privilege of managing the contracts one of which is the largest public contract. wave' installed 1100 shelters in the city of san francisco and 850 new racks. with such a large footprint in the city, we are apart of the fabric of the community. we have 60 employees out on the frontlines every day to work hard to keep our streets, furniture in first-rate condition. preventing and abating gra petey. i bring value to this position as clear channel outdoor and
orchesrate the cleanup efforts and work with the operations team to ensure that gr graffiti is removed within 24 hours. we hope to work closely with the community partners and members that come up with creative solutions to address graffiti vandalism, raise awarenessened gain support of community to work with lawsuit to combat the challenging street be behave yore we deal with ever-machine behavior we deal with every day. we keep san francisco graffiti free. >> a quick question, i know the goal is to remove the graffiti within 24 hours. i don't know if you track it, is that occurring? >> yes, we track it. we have monthly narrative reports we provide to fsmta and
show that we do that. >> if the next applicant would like to come forward, i don't see any questions or comments. >> i'm lord. amy is replacing me. i no longer work for clear dhanl. i'm applying for see the 18. i am currently the vice chair of graffiti advisory board. i served with them eight years. i'm very involved with multiple cham programs that we're working on including the huddle conference on may fourth where community members, city officials, businesses come together to discuss best practices, what is working and what is not working and what we can do going forward. also, i will be at the public representative for the board going before the chamber of commerce on paip 19th to present what ee do, how they can help us
and one other thin thing, i co-chaired the first international antigraffiti vandalism conference if the world held here in san francisco in 2012. finally, both larry stringer deputy director of operations who is also my partner and chair of the board wants you to know he supports my application c-18. and finally, i just love san francisco so much. i want it to be a beautiful city. to me, it's the most beautiful city in the world. i want to keep working to make it beautiful. thank you so much for your consideration for my application. >> i know we have a couple of questions here. one thing i wanted to ask is that especially given your previous experience, what are some of the things that we can do more proactively to make sure
vandalism, graffiti that we try to prevent as much as possible? >> one of the things that the board does, we have a subcommittee called education. we have two programs that we're involved with street smarts and where art lives where we go to elementary schoolsened educate fourth graders an fifth graders on the importance of keeping our city beautiful, showing them the difference between vandalism and art. the difference to us is permission. do you have permission to put whatever you put on a wall? or is this just your taking advantage of someone's
we work with that we're proud of is cameron moberg. he used to be a graffiti vandal now he's a revered graffiti artist internationally. that is some examples of what we can do. the other is and d drgs w is doing a stand up job to attack vandalism right away. if you get it off the are street as fast as possible, that detoured future vandals because they get frustrated. >> 150u7 viso supervisor mar. >> i wanted to thanks for the eight years of service on the task force and also all the muni shelters you built. >> we built nearly 1200 shelters. by the time i left we only had three left. it was a wonderful experience and mta was great.
they helped us stay on top of things and 3-1-1. that is something else we work on, we work with 3-1-1 to figure out best solutions like the u.s. post office. we ironed that out as a board. the u.s. post office weren't getting the 3-1-1 reports for some reason. and the mailboxes weren't getting cleared off. we went directly to the post office and 3-1-1 and were able to integrate them together. it took several years to make it happen, but it finally happened and we're proud that have as well. >> then, just to clarify you're vacating see the 17 because you -- >> correct. >> for your appointment to see the 18 there is gregory dillon vying for that see the. but your eight years of experience and other work helped with continuity on this body. but i want to thank thank you for your service. >> thank you. >> supervisor cohen.
>> thank you. so i think in your last -- my question was for what reason do you want to continue to serve on this body. the last sentence you said was that you loved san francisco and want to continue to make it beautiful. i noticed you need a fee waiver? >> residency. >> residency waiver? >> at-large member is a reses densey waiver seats. there are two residency waiver seats 17 and 18. >> so you don't live in san francisco. >> no, but my family arrived in san francisco? 1904. >> that's okay. there are real reasons why people don't live here. i don't want to put you on the defense. but i do just want to acknowledge that i think it's a priority to appoint people that are living here in san francisco.
and i say that is incredibly important. i look forward to hear mg mor ing more discussion. >> we have one more applicant. mr. gregory dillon. >> i did want to add, greg has been awesome as a public participant. he comes to our meetings an has valuable recommendations and input. we have been trying to figure out awe way to get hem him on the board for a while now. even though we're both vying for the same see the, i look forward to himming to be involved in the board. >> would you be willing to step aside and let him serve? >> no. >> let's let mr. dillon come up first. i have a lot of things on the plate that i have ee been working on and i love the group people that i work with. it's a wonderful experience. >> thank you. >>
>> i'm greg dillon, good afternoon supervisors. i'm applying for see the 18 on the graffiti board. the advisory board is to advise the board of supervisors and mayor about graffiti in san francisco. they're supposed to provide a report to the mayor and board of supervisors every six months. that hasn't been happening. you know, so i'm going in there and the see the 18 is a new position. it was opened up because mta, doesn't go to the meetings and there are issues with mta's performance on graffiti. they have the parking meters and signs and things and they're not getting cleaned up. tales a reason to connect with the board because someone needs to push mta to show p you and it doesn't team that dpw and the board has been ail to do that. also, i am a resident.
although i think she has been a great asset to the board and behaves reasonably, i agree that it's not a requirement of the see the. there needs to be a waiver for that. it says the charter says -- there is no explicit way. if you threek legislative mystery, it doesn't say anything like this is a see the that you're supposed to be a resident. you're supposed to be a resident unless no one else wants the see the. so where i live in san francisco is important in this. i live on the west -- or the mission edge of district eight. it's been a very heavily-graffitied area. it's ground zero for graffiti is. it gives you a feeling of what
graffiti is to san francisco than living in a different suburb does because you talk to your neighbors about it. you sphee it gets cleaned up what. if it doesn't get cleaned up, it stays longer. you're in a part of the city where there are other crimes. you git the discussion with other people. should the police be prioritizing fra feet graffiti more or less? should we prioritize graffiti higher? or is it something that in effect doesn't matter so much? i think like that's wiercioch the things that living there in an area of high graffiti that i bring diversity to the board. i'm afraid too much of the mind set of the board is it's too much of a police matter. and yet, it's a police matter, but if you look during the meeting today, i got a tweet of an article coming in.
woman who had a 200,000-dollar thing, she's out there still graffitiing police cars and stuff. there is only so much the police can do no matter how good they are and the judges, they see everything. they say we can't just fine people more for this. i think a lot of is the people of san francisco having the same point of view. it's not really a view of the efficient hearing on the board. there is too much of going there. the other thing i want to say about myself is i made myself an expert. i'm probably the top expert in going to the sf-one or data portal and getting all the informatio information out there. so last year, there were 58,000 graffiti reports into the 3-1-1 system. 58,000!
it's a lot of graffiti for a city the size of san francisco. the numbers are going up. that was 11,000 more graffiti reports than in 2014. just three months so far in this year we're already 5,500 graffiti reports higher than last year. can you go to the graffiti advisory report? they're supposed to send to the mayor and ask them what is happening? no. the report hasn't happened. they're doing good things but the main thing they -- main task is on page three and five of the packet for you isn't happening. what is happening is it's not so much -- i have the expertise that i'd like to use. what is happening is the app. on the phone now you can go and put in a report graffiti an the quality of data is so much better than when people call
up. phone calls are calling like 4, 5 and $6 per phone call. it's lower on this. plus you get g.p.s. and a goat. whaother things like that. you see a lot of the youtubeer typ -- the uber tieb thing anububer type of thing. that's where we ought to be as a graffiti thing putting our efforts into using this great data that is now available through the app and have them cleaned up. and some of the commercial organizations are the worst offenders. yes, we can look at the graffiti vandals, but we have to look at who are the institutions or large governmental people or the
pg&e, at&t, u.s. postal offices that have a lot of property in san francisco and a lot of graffiti and it's not cloned up quickly enough. chairman tang, i wept to your office and spoke with the people trying to say why it is. i heard back the constituents are calling in and saying we're reporting the graffiti and it's not being cleaned up. that's where the anger point on this is. that should be another thing that very much the board should be doing. the technology is there. the pictures are there. it's not like before when it was called in and someone would say it's new graffiti. if you have the picture and time stamp, it's closed. i sent -- 30 times it was handwritten sent to pg&e and it wasn't cleaned up.
there are groups out there that are not responding when the graffiti is done. i have this hope, like graffiti and crime is collocating. maybe it's a bit of a dream if you clean up the streets and that, that there will be less crime, but some of it is there. if we keep the data cleaner, we can find out, is it true if you clean up the graffiti quickly, you check that it's been cleaned up quickly, tack be done. i'm a resident, i feel, i've made myself an expert on it. i believe the res depsy required is there. jana brings a good voice out there. what she says is correct, but i think i bring another voice that needs to be heard. as a group, the advisory board doesn't hear my voice. the people who have my voice
live in an area with graffiti afternoo often if you have. >> thank you very much. any questions? commissioner cohen. >> i'm in agreement with mr. dillon's assessment of priority given to folks that live in san francisco. i agree that that should be a priority. given my policy, i've sat on rules committee for a long time and i prioritize those that live in san francisco. i agree with your assessment if you're outside san francisco and want to serve an there is no one interested in the san francisco, it should be given a priority. i'm in agreement with mr. dillon. i am concerned about miss amy landgraph. she applied for the see the but indicated she's never attended a meeting. in past, i'm uncomfortable appointing someone to a body --
>> call on her though answer that question. >> that has not attended a meeting even developed a deep understanding for the public process. and so, -- >> i'd lick to address that. at the time of the application i hadn't been to a meeting but i've been to a couple meetings so far. so i've been a part of the board and trying to get involved and also a part of subcommittee as well for the fight the blight in may. >> with all due respect, attending a meeting, a couple of meetings doesn't really give me the confidence about your understanding of the dynamics of how things are ton in san francisco or the different subject matters this commission takes up.
president breed has taken a great interest in the graffiti task force and has done a lot of work. passing legislation. issues penalties around this issue. i at that share the concerns. i represent the southeastern neighborhoods. they are affected by graffiti. i would love to see a more aggressive approach to punishment for graffiti artists that continue to deface both public and private property. i agree with mr. dillon it's not a police matter. police have their handsful. and it's hard to capture and prosecute graffiti artists. that means that the commission becomes even more -- the commission and task force becomes more relevant and important in this role. that's all i have.
>> i would say that for see the 17, i hear you soop viers cohen. for see the 17, the callfication is that person must represent the contracting agency for municipal railway shelters. so it's a pretty specific role, although generally speaking we'd love to have the previous experience, this calls for a representative from that particular company. >> fair enough, but that's -- >> you could speak during public comment, actually. supervisor mar. >> i'm in agreement with supervisor cohen on both issues of a local resident for see the 18 though i really appreciate miss lord's many years and vice chairmanship and years of service on the body and i agree with chair tang that it's basically the contracting agency for the municipal railway shelters that the appointee for
see the 17 and the ep enthusiasm and experience from miss landgraph is appreciated and i'll be supportive of you for that. i believe mr. dillon as the local resident with so much involvement in the mission and a lot of issues that he brought up. i appreciate of your watchdog approach and your g.i.s. and mapping effort to bring that to the body as well. >> thank you. so if there are no further questions, i'm going to open up item five to public comment. >> thank you. >> my name is jana lord. points ever claire if i case and comment. point of clarification on that large se seat. mrgs ta had two seats on the board and they were having trouble filling both.
we decided t decide consolidate and create. we were talking about a large seat before we discussed the would seats on the boord, then it became an issue they couldn't get a second person. we decided instead of creating an additional seat and keeping two mta seat, we let go of one mta. district that greg is from is represented by a resident of the city of san francisco. also, another thing is almost every single person on the board and we are ea talking about 25 members seat 17 has always been non-resident because of clear channel and seat 18. the board is well represented by residence. we allow everyone from the public to join our meeting. that's how greg is involved.
he comes to the meetings and given the opportunity to speak or provide input that can help us. he's more than welcome to help us on our sub committees and huddle conference that we're having in may. he can be involved, i just wanted to point out the clarification on seat 18. the original purpose was there are board members on -- there are seats on the board that are not necessarily represented by each district. what if that person who has been seriously involved is no longer a member of sfr we'd want to retain that person. academy of arts as well. she is ate reason that we considered the at-large member seat originally. >> thank you very much. next speaker, please. >> >> i wanted to say that. ♪ graffiti walls ♪ all look the same 12349 only the wright has been
changed ♪ ♪ fix it up ♪ like a miracle ♪ a true blue ♪ spectacle ♪ miracle ♪ and pick a pick a good candidate ♪ ♪ won't you >> any members of public who wish to speak on item five. seeing none, public comment is now closed. >> if i may -- >> supervisor cohen. >> miss lord thank you for the explaining the seat at large for seat 18. it was actually -- it has softened my position. i will be supporting you. the reason why i'll support you is because you have strong recommendations from staff. and also, it's interesting. if the majority of body compli complies with san francisco, i think we can take a reverse perspective of diversity from
someone on outside coming in toe vied a different perspective. i value that. it's different from my normal thinking. usually i think san franciscans we have it all and figure it out and do the best. there might be some value in having two outsider, pardon the expression, and amy, i will be supporting your request to be placed in seat 17. thank you. >> supervisor mar. >> i'm shifting, again as first feeling that miss lord's continuity of the years of experience, but having two people so connected with clear channel, really one of the large corporations worries me. though i know miss lord has left the organization, i believe. i think we need neighborhood-based at advocate
advocates like mr. dillon to be represented. though i support miss lord for seat 17, i would support mr. dillon as a watchdog and experienced person who has been involved even though he's thot a member. i think it's important that we reward his governmen involvement on the body even though tees' not a member. it helps to empower him and the neighborhood he comes from as appointing another person from l lafayette on this body. >> obviously for seat 17, i'm in support of miss landgraph moving forward will. for seat 18, i have a preference for mr. dillon because he's attended meetings for the last would years even being not on the board. i'd love for him toen continue on that board.
nothing to take away from miss lord, she's done great things for the board. it's a matter of two seats with three applicants. >> i move miss landgraph for seat 17 and mr. dilling for seat 18. >> we take that without objection. congratulations. we can call item six now. >> item six is a hearing to consider three members ending january 21st, 2019 to the mental health board. >> we had to do a residency waiver, correct? >> yes. >> may we have a vote to rescind the vote for item five. for seat 17 we need a residentsy waiver. >> i second. >> thank you. now item six. so we have three seats three
applicants. angela wong and adelle wilson and [inaudible] are you hear? if you are hear, come on up. thawmption fothank you for your patience. >> thank you for the important decisions you're making. my goodness. good afternoon, supervisors i'm angela pawn. i'm seeking the appointment to the board as a family member of someone who is a consumer. mental illness. account the past five years, they have been very eye-opening, challenging, arduous, scary journey. my 27-year-old daughter was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. and she -- we've helped her with her struggle to recovery.
to survival. it's been, as i said, very frightening at times. so mental illness came out of nowhere. with no family history, no no one family history. we had no previous knowledge or education about all the ramifications of a diagnosis like this of mental illness. probably the same for those in the dark. we continue to be challenged as she learns to live under a new normal. which all the family members do. all her friend, all her communities. networks that she's volunteered a lot for. namely namy and dbsa who are
wonderful networks for us who don't know who to talk to or where to go and they're wonderful resources for the consumer, for the family members and for the community at large. i credit them largely for our sanity. i have no experience, actually, i'm not an expert in mental illness with all that i've tried to learn, what we've experienced. but i do want to say that our experiences, my experience i've gained with her bipolar disorder, her struggles has given me a sensitive perspective about the realm of mental illness. so i hope to possibly help
however i can. on the board. to positively impact those who also seek guidance and help. i have attended a meeting, and i know a bit of how it works although i've only attended the one so i have to put that up pront. i' -- up front. i'm here on behalf of my doctor because she said, mom, you need to be a family member on board. >> thank you. supervisor mar. >> i wanted to thank miss pawn for being willing to serve. having family members that are bipolar, having the groups like nami who are so helpful for families grappling with mental illness.
thank you for sharing your story. >> supervisor cohen. >> mrs. pawn, i too have family members active in nami. i wanted to ask you if you had any experience with attending previous meetings. >> with mental health board? >> yes, ma'am. >> yes i have. i attended one. but it gives me a good inkling into how things work and i hope that i can join some of the committees and try to help to bring along -- or better the existing projects and maybe bring to t forefront some really needed issues. projects address the issues. >> in your application, you list as a very interesting experience that you're retire retired from retire from ciezer in 2015.
your insight into the psychiatric department was insightful can you tell us what you saw? >> it was really ironic in hindsight when i took the transfer to psychiatry, i had no linkling of what was -- inkling of what was to come. i took it because it gave me 40 hours. i was part time and wanted to go full-time. >> what was your role? at kaiser? >> i was administrative assist tan. >> okay. thank you. >> i took on challenge not realizing what was to come. and so with what i learned there, and then to be hit with the diagnosis, my daughter's struggle, i don't know, it was meant to be, i hi. >> was your daughter diagnosed during your time working why the
psychiatry department? >> yes, the latter part part. then i transferred to determin dermatology. i wanted to go back but things didn't work out. >> you're now retired and ready to roll up your sleaves for the second part of your life. >> i thought what do i want to do when i grow up? i wanted something worthy. >> thank you for your interest. >> is adelle wilson here? do you want to explain adelle's -- >> i'm helen burke and i'm the executive director. i got a call from adelle. she wasn't feeling well. show has served a first timer term on the board adds a family member and she's a valued member
of the team. she chaired a committee in the past year to totally revamp our forms and the way we do site visits to the many programs to make them run smoothly and more effective. i hope you will consider reappointing her to a second term. >> thank you very much for letting us know. we did receive word from ulash dunlap who is a constituent. she was not able to extend teand. but i had met with her previously when her appointment was up as well. so, again, we have two people who are not here. at this time i think we're going to ep open up item six to public comment. >> yes, ma'am. commissioners, i'm sending a strong message that the medical team are low grade. they're not effective in mental
health problems. more than ever, the system [inaudible] forcing medications against the will of patients. they lock them up in hospital. and we have further control financially on the mental health patients. i'm a pi pioneer on eastern religious pathologies who are helping our people with mental and physical well-beings in addition of the methodologies. i put myself at the street level of chinatown hanging out with the chinese people, chinese folks if chinatown. almost every one of them fold up my paper [inaudible] of good planning for the improvement formula for body and
heart. i will continue my work on this pathway until such new studies will become the central core of applications for the system. one medical doctor in this chinatown, clinic actually [inaudible] my paper to the patient. my words were in chinese only but i'm trying to translate it into english. thank you very much. >> any other members of public item six. >> first, you might be up ♪ ♪ then you're down ♪ then you might be ♪ all around ♪ just like a yoa yo yo-yo ♪ ♪ just like a yo-yo ♪ there is one thing i want you to do ♪
♪ fix those mental health blues ♪ ♪ like a yo-yo ♪ and ring you can ring adelle ♪ ♪ ring adelle ♪ ding a dl ling ♪ ♪ you're looking swell adelle ♪ we can del ♪ make us well ♪ pick adelle ♪ pick adelle >> thank you very much. any other members of the public item six? seeing none, you be lick comments closed. >> i move approval of angela pawn for seat 14. ulash seat 15 and [inaudible] seat 16. >> item seven is a hearing to
appoint the term ending april 18th 2018. there is one seat and one applicant. >> is sufficientlyia deporto here? no. i see -- >> silia was hear this morning but had to leave. she had appointments with the judges around her cases. she wrote me a little bit of a note. she's currently deputy director of family services division and has been for the last three years. prior to that, she was the assistant director for children and family services. the department of public and soarnl services for riverside county. and then has spent 21 yers in child welfare in riverside. while in riverside, sylvia served as a commissioner there
for two years. this is an appointed position by the head of aha. we have a an appointed member from human services agency from the public health department. her interest to serve is to focus on the development of a robust prevention system for the diversified age groups because she sees this entering san francisco at high rates. we feel like the work of first five is area aligned what she strifes to do. she'll value added. >> thank you for letting us know. >> supervisor mar. >> i wanted to thank the first five commission and all the staff for amazing work from preschool for all the help
equity work done from firth to five. i wanted to -- from birth to five. it's hard shoes to fill, but i know that trent roors appointment will be another great person on the first five commission. i know supervisor cohen served on first five also like i did. >> seeing no other questions or comments, public comment www.we'll open it up for item seven. seeing none, public comments closed. if we could get a motion to move sylvia deporto. we'll take that without objection. congratulations to sylvia. call item eight. >> hearing to consider appointing one member term ending october 19th 2017 to the eastern neighborhood citizen's advisory compete.
one seat, one applicant. >> is shrug bucktell here? thank you for waiting. >> good morning -- it's good afternoon, supervisors. thank you for having me here today and a special thanks to the office for putting me up for appointment. my name is [inaudible] bucktell, i work for the community street services. i believe i should be appointed to the eastern neighborhood citizen's advisory committee because of the unique and distinct perspective i can bring to the body. to me, the eastern neighborhoods are not just designated lines on a map. they exist at the same time as geographic and cultural segment of my life growing up and working professionally in san francisco. i don't just live and work in the eastern neighborhoods, i was
made there. i'm a product of d-6. i within the to elementary school in solma. my first official job was working near mission bay, and today, i'm in d-9 every single day workerring. when agencies present about street improvements and park improvement in the new parks, they're talking about the streets i've walked on for years. the parks, i hope to have my children play in one day. my current job adds the outreach and campaign engagement coordinator has allowed me to professionally work on many of the topics that eastern neighborhoods discuss and provides input on and votes on. every day, i'm involved in policy discussions with regarding land use which has become perhaps the most critical policy area in the entirety of this city. ground just broke at a new park on 17 st. and folsom.
this happened due to funds allocated by the eastern neighborhood cac. and our organization was there. when the connections between the mission and mission bay are completed, it will be the people i work with an work for who will be there. ful appoint, i thot onl -- not only intend to but promise that relevant thftion is brought back to community spaces. i will understand my rol role as a community organizer and member to make sure that my seat is the most grassroots-based seat on the committee and further more, i promise to review each project that comes through through the lens of not only those coming into the city but those coming here. i understand this appointment is not to be taken lightly. let me assure you on the record
that i pledge to be an active member of this committee if appointed. i take this with the utmost amount of seriousness, on this, you have my word. thank you. >> thank you very much. >> supervisor mar. >> i wanted to say to mr. bucta, i appreciate the passion that you bring. you talk about be rooted in district six, your commitment to organizing the neighborhood to speak for themselves and empower them, i appreciate that. joining others on the committee, giving that voice to this important eastern neighborhood, cac is so important. so much respect for your work empowering people from our neighborhoods. it's great to have you here. >> seeing no other members -- no other questions or comments from our committee, i'm going to open it up to public comment. i have a couple of comment cards
here. la tonya jones. [inaudible] marti martinez. >> i'm here to speak before you because i was scared to speak. this is one of the guys that will speaker it you but i have to speak for myself. i was the kind of person that was deciding i like to speak in front of people. i'm blessed to have [inaudible] as one the stets for the citizens. please, he is a good guy. he is the kind of guy you'll want on your board. thank you. >> please come on up. >> >> good afternoon, supervisors. [through the interpreter]
>> he says that i've been doing a lot of work with mission clab arive and with the lower street community services i'm here to support his appointment because he makes leaders out of us. nothing more than i want to share my support for him. thank you. >> thank you very much. any other members? come on up. >> good afternoon, supervisors. i'm cynthia citizen and i'm with sro collaborative and i'm with the internship. i'm here to support [inaudible] for the appointment of citizen
advisory. i've knownterag for a number of years. not only him before before i got into th the internship. he's an silent outreach coordinator. not only is he an asset to the board but to the community in general. to appointment him would be a benefit to our community. not appointing sheeraz would be a loss. his work speaks for himself. >> thank you very much. any other members of the public? >> good afternoon, i'm dinea martinez. i work with the commission collaborative and dlor ez street community service as long with chirrack bakta.
what i've witnessed over the time that with we've spent working together is chirraz doing everything to educate himself on all sides of the issue. he not only looks toward the representatives from our community, and opinions of elected officials and people who have had a lot of experience if the situation, but he looks at the experiences of those of the most vulnerable populations of san francisco. those who don't always have the opportunity to share their voice. the immigrant populations, sro, low income populations. lgbtq members and people who are on disability or things that have nature. so it's really important to have somebody on this committee who has ties with people who are actually being affected most by a lot of things that are
happening in the city. he cares a lot about diversity and the effects on everybody in this city. and also, does so much research and a lot of thorough investigation to figure out historical context and important effects of projects. so thank you very much for hearing out what the community has to say about his appointment and i really think that it would be a great asset to this committee to have him. thank you. >> thank you very much. any other members of the public who wish to speak on item eight? seeing none, public comment is closed. colleagues. >> i move appointment to seat 1 of chirrazz bakta so seat 8. >> i support that. >> seconded by supervisor cohen. before we move on to item nine, we're going to tack a bit of a
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>> good evening and welcome to the wednesday, march 30, 2016, of the san francisco board of appeals the presiding officer this evening is commissioner honda and joined by commissioner fung and commissioner ann lazardus and commissioner swig and commissioner wilson to my left is thomas owen the deputy city attorney and will provide legal advice and the legal assistant aim sgmd legal assistant aim sgmd scombmd and we're joined by representatives from the city departments that have cases before this board. chris bucks is with the san francisco ic