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leadership, miss harrison. >> if you don't mind me -- unfortunately, i have to hook back up, so give me a minute. >> supervisor cohen: no problem. >> i'm back up. >> supervisor cohen: we're happy to see you, and happy to have you here. >> thank you very much. let me start off my little two cents in here by saying we truly appreciate the fact that you called for the hearing. i have to be honest and say, it is long overdue. >> supervisor cohen: i would agree with you. >> golden gate action, the law students, the investigative reporters have brought these concerns before a lot of folks of fraud, just out and out lying. i mean, i could go take you back to the first r.a.b. meeting, that's the restoration advisory meeting, when it wasn't going the way they wanted it to go.
in addition, adding insult to injury, we have, before your time, before your time, we have addressed supervisors, the city, the mayor, the health department, we have -- i mean, we've got through the whole city officials and politicians, government agencies, to address these issues. one of the things that i find the most amazing is they didn't listen to us because i didn't have a ph.d. behind my name, so i'd like to apologize by not having that ph.d. but i won't do that, i said i was going to be nice. i'm not going to do that, but imagine what my ph.d. is in. i recently had an opportunity to talk to some folks, and with -- i've got to tell you that as a board member now of green action for health and
environmental justice, not just as a community member but as a board member, i have not once had to say to green action staff and all their interns, we are still mandated to follow what we wanted 45 years ago, okay? comprehensive sampling and testing. 45 -- not just when they've been shown to be liars, we're talking 45 years ago, we were asking for these things. testing must be conducted with an independent community oversight and funding for the -- for this providing just to make sure that the community just actually gets the truth. we have community boards that are selected and put together, yet they do not have the ability to get any information
out. they speak on our behalf, yet they do not talk to us. you can't do that, and we are asking you as supervisors, along with thanking you for the hearing, but do your due diligence. i've heard some real good questions coming from you guys. filled my heart with joy. i have to have everything written down for me so i wouldn't leave something out. i'm saying, you own it now, don't get off of it. please don't. let me go on. let me turn this over because we talked about the testing, the independent testing. and remember that all these years, we've been told that we were wrong. we've -- we've actually insisted on getting to the real nits and grits to the work. we have not just the moral and legal authority, but we have the mental ability to just do the job and get it done, and we believe that without the
oversight of the community, the same thing is going to happen. i mean, you raise the attention that it took them six years after discovering. please, god, don't make me have to educate you and take you all back to the beginning, okay? back to the first lawsuit that were filed when they first first started working out there, okay? there's a young lady that actually works with both attorneys, she's going to speak. but let me make sure we get through this. we need a comprehensive cleanup, and we need that because we are still a community of lovers. i know sometimes it doesn't seem like it, but that comprehensive cleanup of all the toxic waste, all of the stuff that they're planning on -- the radio active materials that they're planning
information that even community folks -- and by the way, you need to understand that some of those community members that were working with me way back 40 years, they worked out there. they were told to shut up, keep your head down if you want to keep your job. well, those days have got to be past. you guys are representing not just the city, but you're representing real people, and we need to be brought back and made whole. and i mean made whole. we need to be able to sit down and tell folks it was done, and it was done right, and we were there to make sure. there should never be a reckless plan of leaving radio active material buried in the ground out there and you're building houses, you're planning on putting restaurants and playgrounds for children to play. this is beyond a financial
gain, this is out and out murder. this is genocide of a community, and we need to put a stop to it now. it is my deepest and sincerest hope that all of you, not just you guys sitting here, but the rest of the supervisors, hear my words, hear my plea, but know that i will not go away softly in the dark, okay? i cannot do that. we are not those folks that walk away softly in the night. we've hold the line so far and we will continue to hold the line, but we need you guys as our voted in elected officials to hold the line with us. you have got to nbe able to stand toe to toe with these folks and say, the all mighty dollar may have ruined this part of our city, but we will not stand for it. you should know, i am a mother,
i am a grandmother, and i am a great grandmother, okay? so that tells you i've been here a few days. even sit down in school a few minutes and got a couple of degrees. hey, if you had miss minnie for a mother, you'd do the same, but it enabled me to sit still and call a lie when i hear it. most of our folks in our community can stand toe to toe with what's going on in the community, what their family members and community are suffering because they live it, breath it every single day. please don't let all of the legalese throw you. if lawyers is what you need to hear from, we'll bring you something that will tell you the truth. if scientists is what you need, let us bring you some. i'm not even asking you to believe me.
i'm saying, listen to some of the young minds that have volunteered, that have come from far and near and right within our community to say miss marie, we're standing with you because we believe that it's our duty to make sure that the truth gets out. i believe at our last real big hearing, a couple of the students actually said either they knew it and didn't care, or they knew it and just overlooked it and decided not to do anything about it. i'm asking you guys to please, don't ignore us and overlook it. don't decide not to do anything about it. history will not just raise and talk and shout about what happened here in san francisco in bayview-hunters point, but it will talk about san francisco, and it will say the truth about what our supervisors, our representatives did and have
done and will do, so i'm asking you, stand with us. for over 45 years, we have been riding -- by the way, you should know, while i did graduate from high school and college, i don't have a ph.d.. i'm not a scientist, i'm not a doctor. i do have a little bit of legalese but that's just enough to get me in trouble, and just maybe, i can get out if i remember to call bradley in time to say i'm about to get in trouble so don't go nowhere bradley. you know, he has to be there to make sure i don't get in trouble because i get angry. i get mad when i see a three and four-year-old child suffering from asthma and cancer. is that by design for our community? i get angry when my grandson would come home from school up on top of that hill and have all of this gunk in his
eyebrows and eye lashes. he just happened to have some of the best eyebrows and eye lashes i have of seen for a guy. what i'm saying is there were some beautiful children that went to school up there when roman was doing. when they were doing the heavy grading, and somebody said in a hearing, oh, well, the community decided that the alarms that are going off, well, they would be discounted. what community members did that? when? where are the meetings? who selected them to do that? you cannot represent us if you cannot speak to us, and we went to every meeting. i know you know it. some of you guys will remember me from a long time ago, and you'll say god, did you ever
stop? no. will you ever stop? no. do i want to stop? yes. yes, i do. i'm tired, but i want to be made whole, and i want to be made whole while my family, my friends, my neighbors, many of them are still living. i have lost way too many people in the last two years, and it's just been in the last two years that i have found that i, myself, am sick, so you will understand my urgency. you will also understand why i don't plan on backing away from any one of the supervisors. i don't care what district you're in, you're going to be made to know that you are equally as responsible because we have told you the truth. it has been proven out, and we're going to continue to tell the truth and push forward. i know that there's a lot of people, so i'm going to quit. >> supervisor cohen: thank you. thank you very much. [applause]
>> supervisor cohen: the last and final presenter is department of public health, amy brownell, and we will then go to public comment. got a stack of public comment cards. if there's any member of the public that -- does any member of the public that would like to speak, fill out a card or just get in line. thank you. amy, how long is your presentation? [inaudible] >> supervisor cohen: 15? slides or minutes? >> supervisor kim: can we pcu the presentation and just go straight to question? >> supervisor cohen: i'm sorry. we're going to lose quorum because we're going to go to conversation. supervisor kim has some questions. i have a few questions, not many, and perhaps you can weave things of your presentation,
your slides, into your answers. supervisor kim, i'll start with you first. no? okay. well, can you start with the fact -- just identify, what is a scan ban? we've heard this term, and what is a scan ban. >> thank you, chair, supervisor kim. my name is amy brownell. i am a supervisor with the san francisco health department. the scan van is an e.p.a. run van that was used by the united states environmental protection agency. it was used in prior to the transfer of parcel a, it was used to scan not only the roads on parcel a but all of the rest of the shipyard to provide an extra assurance that the parcel was safe as the regulatory agencies and the navy and our own health department concurred
at the time that all the information and all the data, and we still believe and have issued statements to that effect that the parcel is safe for the residents, workers, tenants at the shipyard and the neighbors in the area. >> supervisor cohen: how old is the technology used within the scan van? >> can you -- >> supervisor cohen: how old is the technology in the scan van? i heard it was from the 80's. >> you would have to ask the e.p.a. the actual scans were done in 2002, provider to the transfer. >> supervisor cohen: so i think in all your years with the agency, i think you spend 25 years in the hunters point shipyard? >> correct. >> so please explain it. we've got soil samples, we've got six years of information out there that has not been notified. you as a member of the department of public health, we look to you to help interpret
the science, to help interpret and sign off, quite frampgly on the receiving of the parcel, particularly, i'm talking about parcel a, but you can relate my question to parcel g. so where is this breakdown? >> so as the navy and a contractor explained, the contractor decided to engage in fraudulent testing. the navy discovered the fraudulent testing in 2012. they reported it to the regulatory agencies and to my agency. we were very involved? >> supervisor cohen: so what happened in 2012? was there a hearing at the board of supervisors? what happened? >> when they discovered it in 2012, i don't -- i would have to look up the exact date of when they had meetings with us to say that we've discovered this, we're working on fixing it. again, as the navy and the e.p.a. reported, there was detail process, they kept the regulatory agencies and myself informed, just as they have done for the entire time that i'm working on it and keep reports and information, and
they -- as they stated, they thought that they were able to fix all the problems and the err errors, and they issued a report which was reviewed by all the regulatory agencies, and we were given assurances that the problems had been resolved and the falsification had been resolved. >> supervisor cohen: ? 2012, did this matter go before the health commission? >> during -- during my time, there's been technical issues that have been discussed between the navy and the regulatory agencies and the health department has been informed. it's never risen to the level that we need to bring it to the health commission and board of supervisors. health commission and board of supervisors have occasionally voluntarily called for hearings. there was a hearing on the parcel e-2 landfill proposals for how that was going to be
resolved and whether it would be dug up and hauled away or kept in place, so there have been hearings at various times. the falsification, because the navy had such confidence that they had resolved and fixed the issues in 2014, there didn't seem to be any reasons by any of those agencies -- it was all public record. every document was public record, including that sampling report. there didn't seem to be any reason to bring a hearing because they had thought it had been resolved. >> supervisor cohen: what's the standard that you're using to determine information is worthy of a hearing versus it's not worthy of a hearing. >> to my knowledge there has never been a case where we felt that health and public safety was at risk. there has never been a case in the entire time that i've ever been on this project, including the falsification where we think public health and safety is at risk.
>> supervisor kim: could we please be respectful to who's speaking. >> the fraud is an outrage. i totally understand the impact it has had on the community, but we do not believe that public health and safety is at risk. there is a requirement, and they've already stated, they are going to retest and redo all the work, and the stress of all that, i completely acknowledge that that is very -- it's outrageous that that has happened, but we do not believe it's -- from a scientific standpoint, that there is any public health and safety risk. >> supervisor cohen: now you've heard already from this body a desire to no longer contract with tetratech, so i think that that's a given -- a gir given, hopefully, that the navy will back up our pleas and congress woman pelosi, and hire another contractor to do the retesting on the parcel -- a
new scan. but what about -- what about other companies? what's plan b? what about the plan that's presented by the navy is too long or there's no agreement? do we continue to wait and wait until there's an agreement? is there a plan b? is there another company we can call onto assist us with the testing? >> in all the years that i've been watching this, there can be disagreements between the agencies. i can honestly say there have been disagreements in the last 1.5 years about details, and i'm confident that they will be able to resolve it. the navy has already given the regulatory agencies their proposal, and then, they're going to be working on it and then they're going to present it to the public and have the public comment period. so based on all these years of work, i'm confident that they'll be able to resolve and the retesting will be able to be done by contractors other
than tetratech. >> supervisor cohen: i want to talk a little bit about the slide that you didn't present, but i have the slide deck in front of me. >> i can pull it up if you want. >> supervisor cohen: on the slide on the parcel a timeline, what's the factor contributing to the regulatory agencies independently testing this, on the parcel a timeline. >> yes. i'm sorry. say the question again. >> supervisor cohen: what's the -- why don't you just walk us through the timeline, and we'll start there. >> so the parcel a timeline is to emphasize that the parcel a followed the restoration process that the navy goes through for the entire shipyard. starting in 1992, they investigated chemicals and radiation, and they did that at various areas around the parcel all the way until 2004, when it was transferred. this included treating a small area that had been used as a
gardener's shed and pesticide storage. the regulatory agencies reviewed and questioned all the work. the health department reviewed and questioned it. if you look at the comments and response to comments document, we had a lot of questions about the lead-based paint remediation. we got those resolved, and then two years prior to the transfer, the e.p.a. used the scan van to take pleasurements, and all three regulatory agencies concurred that it was ready for transfer, and the health department hired independent consultants to independently review that, and we presented all of that information to the hearings where the property transfer was accepted. >> supervisor cohen: so let me interject. why were they so sure that parcel a was ready to be transferred? >> because number one, it had never been an industrial
parcel. it was mostly residences to start. in the one area where there was small industrial processes, they had investigated the chemical and radiological issues surrounding that, they had done remediation. again, nontech ra-at the time contractors did the remediation on the parcels, so all of the issues which were very few were handled, and the one building, building 322 that we've talked about extensively, that was reviewed, demolished and taken away, and then u.s.e.p.a. had an independent scan by their phycisist, and it was resolved. >> supervisor cohen: it's certainly been publicly circulated that tetratech is standing by their work and tetratech is willing to pay for the retesting of parcels. i want to acknowledge that congress woman nancy pelosi was able to secure something like
$36 million that will go towards the retesting for the bayview-hunters point, so i'm looking for an entity that we can begin to rebuild trust to help us rebuild and repair that fracktured relationship so that when data is presented that it's coming from a trustworthy source? can the cal department of public health serve in that entity? >> yes. i've worked with the california department of public health radiological health branch. they have manpower, personnel, and equipment who can do independent scans that is from a government agency. they did a lot of work, and supervisor kim is very familiar with it at treasure island. if it were determined that there was a reason to find areas on parcel a or -- >> supervisor cohen: or g or b -- >> oh, yes, on any of the other parcels, they could provide independent review.
they've done oversight in the past. during the tetratech rework, they were alongside of the rework on some of the interior buildings, and they have pictures of the california department of public health overseeing that work. >> so are there any numbers from other areas of the city, such as crissy field or district four that we can moan tore the radiation in the environment to better understand what the goal is for cleanup at the hunters point shipyard? >> there are lots of background radiation examples that can be reviewed. we have an independent -- part of the reason the health department is so confident about the safety of parcel a is there was an aerial radiation survey that was done. i'm forgetting the year at this very moment -- by the departme department of homeland security as a measure, and there were no anomalies found. nothing out of the ordinary found on the entire hunters point shipyard.
>> supervisor cohen: sure, but what about parcel g? >> the entire shipyard, parcel a, parcel g, any alphabet super was found to be all normal. >> supervisor safai: supervisor cohen, through the care, can i just ask one question so what she said? so you just said an aerial scan was done. can you explain what an aerial scan -- because that sounds like it's done from a satellite and it's not actually done from the ground. >> thank you so much, supervisor safai. it's done from aerial helicopters. they attach very, very sensitive instruments on helicopters, and they do a very low pass, at the time they were doing a background scan, and they can detect very, very, very low levels, and they can tell you whether there's background or whether there is
any anomalies on the surface. >> supervisor safai: but compared to an actual laboratory testing done by hand, what's the level of preciseness done by the helicopter. >> the helicopter can tell you up to an exact depth, so that can give you the confidence that the surface is safe, and then, as the navy has stated, the areas are secured and have durable covers -- covers on the surface, so we know that the -- if there is anything buried, you can't detect it on the surface. and then yes, a soil sample is how you go back and check below the surface to remove samples that might be above the levels of concern. >> supervisor safai: right. so there were things that were buried and contaminated soil that were buried, you wouldn't necessarily pick that up from an ariel sur faa. >> correct, and that's why the reevaluations have to be done, and the testing that's going to
take some time. >> supervisor safai: thank you. >> supervisor cohen: supervisor kim? >> supervisor kim: can you. i have some questions. i don't want to reask all the questions that i've asked the navy and the e.p.a. what medical conditions -- health and medical conditions disproportionately affect the bayview and hunters point area? >> as you mentioned, asthma is a very common and unfortunate condition in the bayview areas. there also are various heart conditions that are a problem. if you really wanted to get into the details it would be much more appropriate for me to call on the health officer from the department of public health. my expertise is the work that is done by these navy and regulatory agencies, and the environmental engineering treatments. >> supervisor kim: i understand. what do you think is the general link that -- the department of public health states as to why there's disproportionate levels of
asthma and heart relates problems in this neighborhood? >> again, i really appreciate your question, and i really think it would be appropriate if we brought a health officer who can really talk to these details. i will acknowledge that the damaging stress from this situation can cause health problems. >> supervisor kim: what would? >> damaging stress knowing about falsification and things like that that have happened at the -- >> supervisor kim: so damage and stress from learning about falsification leads to asthma and heart problems in the neighborhood? >> i am not a health officer, so i would just -- >> supervisor kim: could you just explain -- >> i'm just acknowledging that the damage and stress about learning about these kinds of conditions -- stress can contribute to health problems. >> supervisor kim: okay. that's -- that's an extraordinary statement. i understand where you're coming from, but that's not the
statement that i expected our department of public health to make today. you have heard very clearly from supervisor cohen and myself, that we would like the navy and e.p.a. to fully retest parcel a, despite what you have stated in press that there is no scientific evidence that would trigger this. as our representative of the city and county, now hearing from the two representatives that oversee both treasure island and shipyards, will you work to lead the effort on behalf of the city to ensure that the navy and e.p.a. fully retest parcel a? >> we will work cooperatively with yourself and all the agencies. >> will you fight, ask the navy and e.p.a. to fully test parcel a? >> we will continue to work -- >> supervisor kim: can you continue to fight on behalf of our city to ask the navy and e.p.a.? >> we will --
>> supervisor kim: if the answer is no, you can just say no. >> the cdph has the facility and capability to do this public work -- [inaudible] >> supervisor kim: cdph is not under my jurisdiction. however, san francisco department of public health is, and i'm asking, you've now heard from supervisor cohen and myself. representing us, will you ask the navy to retest parcel a? >> we will have discussions about retesting parcel a. >> supervisor kim: okay. the answer is no. thank you very much. okay. thank you very much. supervisor cohen, did you want to go to public comment? >> supervisor cohen: i did want to go to public comment. >> supervisor kim: are you still sticking with the one minute? >> supervisor cohen: yes. i'm not sure who you guys are
up there, but i've got a doctor at the top of my list. [inaudible] o >> supervisor cohen: oh, okay. >> thank you for the privilege of the podium -- ja >> supervisor kim: okay. we can't hear you. >> thank you for the privilege of the podium, and it's appropriate that i talk about amy brownell. i have submitted many documents to you in the last 18 years, including my presentation to the r.a.b. titled, "parcel a is not suitable for transfer, kwts kwts kwts," in which i detailed it had two areas of sand blast that in other areas of the base it had tested positive for
raidium 226. i do want to say quickly that a super fund site is a land in the united states that has been identified and contaminated for cleanup because it poses a risk to health and the environment. the department of public health has no health and human survey information on its website beyond 2009. there's nothing to date despite -- [inaudible] >> supervisor cohen: all right. thank you. thank you. thank you, doctor. >> hello. i'm david antoine, and i'm the attorney that blaut trought th
matter. [inaudible] >> -- and were largely ignored. it was only when we went to the press after being totally frustrated that something started to happen, and that was particularly when anthony smith came forward in the summer -- in march of 2016. you've asked a lot of questions about parcel a. with me are the two individuals who are responsible for those news articles everyone read about. [applause] >> one is donald wadsworth. he was president of new world environmental that was responsible for holding -- [inaudible] >> supervisor cohen: sorry. i have a quick question. maybe we can move onto the whistle blowers themselves, mr. antoine. >> sure. this is don wadsworth, and this is burt bowers. he was responsible for radiological safety and at some point held a license --
>> supervisor kim: could we have the microphone because no one can hear you. both individuals can just speak at the mic. >> okay. let me introduce them, and then, you can ask whatever questions you want of them. don wadsworth, he has experience at hunters point for about a decade. he has a nuclear regulatory license issued in his name. he is a health phycisist. his company supplied the rag teches. many of those switched over to the companies that did the cheating. he's involved personally with the parcel a review that was done. this is burt bowers. he also had a decade at hunters point. he worked his way up to be the top radiological safety officer for tetratech, and he was one of the people who was fired from tetratech for objecting to what they were doing. i'll let you ask the questions
that you want. >> supervisor kim: all right. can we ask questions? >> you can ask them anything you want. i do not expect i will interrupt or keep them from answering anything. >> supervisor kim: great. >> my name is don wadsworth, as was indicated. i have a master's agree in health physics and two undergraduate degrees in health physics. i've been practices physics for 40 years. my company, if we've been accused of something like this, i wouldn't have sent a lawyer, i would have stood before you and answered all your questions. honesty in science and with public is vital. trust once lost is hard to get back. we spent ten years, 2000-2009 at hunters point. i personally trained 15 people at rad workers.
i find -- your questions are excellent. your understanding of the problems is excellent. don't discount your ability to understand. if it's not being explained to you properly, then you have the wrong consultant. they approach the methods are really quite sample, and -- >> supervisor kim: so i'm going to ask you a question to continue your time. >> of course. >> supervisor kim: so it would be great if you could first of all finish your sentence, but i would like to know what years you worked on hunters point and what caused you to move forward and blow the whistle as is the term. and then, finally, could you talk a little bit about the cu culture or motivation behind why this happens, and do you think this is widespread in tetratech, and do you think this extends to other federal workers where they get a fixed sum contract and so they're
trying to cut costs as much as possible and increase profits for their administration and stakeholders. >> you've got it. there are instances of workers being jailed and find. you can go to the nrc website, nuclear regulatory commission website. i apologize for using acronyms, old habits. i can't speak to somebody's motivation. it's hard to believe that somebody's given you data and they've internally deceived you. you have a tendency, and people like myself with a scientific background, we tend to trust each other and what they say. so once you have proven yourself to be dishonest, then, you have to question absolutely everything that you've been given. you can't accept anything. i mean, you're going to have to educate yourselves, you're going to have to get your own consultant who you trust and who can explain these things to
you. >> supervisor kim: can i ask you, so there's a -- this is where i have a hard time seeing. there's a tetratech and a subsidiary? >> yes. large companies will break into divisions -- >> supervisor kim: e.c. >> e.c. -- >> supervisor kim: should we be concerned about tetratech as an entire institution or just asubsidary? >> if i did this, i wouldn't be in business. i'd be completely fired and would have lost all my contracts with the federal government. >> supervisor kim: but why hasn't that happened in this case? as an observer, i'm not asking you as an actual worker, but in your observation, why hasn't that happened yet? >> i really don't know. i mean, it's -- >> supervisor kim: okay.
i don't want to ask you to hypothesize. could you just tell us what years you worked on this project and what you observed spefld that led you to -- specifically that led you to blow the whistle on this? >> it was after i was sent initially that first report that tetratech did in 2012. someone sent that to me, and i said, well, this is nonsense. so after that, i was contacted by some people, and people would ask me, what is your opinion of this, and you have two sides that are really impacted, that we worked at, treasure island and hunters point. you're seeing just wholesale fraud in the data stream that's coming across, and so as -- to me, that would be, you know, grounds for taking and, you know, saying -- not just saying what's your opinion of data, give me the data. give me all the data.
i want the raw data, and i'm going to look at absolutely everything you've done. not just the radiological side, but the chemical side, as well, because radiological is relatively easy to detect, measure, and quantify, and the risks are based on human exposure to radiation. the chemical part, that's difficult. and if you were willing to wholesale cheat on something that's easy or relatively easy to prove, then what did you do with the rest of it? that would be my position. [applause] >> supervisor kim: thank you. >> he was involved in the -- >> supervisor kim: i think. you have to speak at the mic, but did you want to say something? >> yes. i think you might want to ask them about parcel a and the scanning that has been talked about. they were both personally involved in it. >> supervisor kim: i will ask
that question of the next gentleman. just give him an opportunity to speak. you get that one minute, and then, if you could answer that, that would be great. >> burt bowers is my name. i was the former occupation safety expert. my total time there from beginning to end was just short of ten years. january the 13, 2011, that was a significant day for me because that was the day i got forceablely removed from hunters point with the instructions i could call the nrc, i could call the e.p.a., i could call whoever, but while i was at it -- at the blink in my office, you get the blink off my project. here it is -- what's today? may the 15 -- okay, 14, 2018. i did my due diligence, going through the channels to get reporting requirements done to the regulators to accommodate
the investigators, and to try to get a remedy to the wrongs that were taking place. with all due respect -- with all due respect to the representatives for the navy, for the nrc, for the e.p.a., osha, the state of california -- i've never been invited in to discuss what happened? >> supervisor kim: could you talk about your personal involvement. >> personal involvement with regards to -- >> supervisor kim: as explained by your attorney. >> on parcel a. >> when i first arrived on hunters point -- >> parcel a and building 322. >> for parcel a, when i first arrived at hunters point, working for new world, i was tasked with another health physics or rad safety technician to service building
322. it used to exist in the bowels of the site. it had since been moved to the front entrance going into hunters point, and 322 was then staged at a corner of inez in the day that the site was operational. when new world was returned on contract to hunters point after a brief shutdown of activities through tetratech, one of the first jobs that came up was myself and another rad safety technician would go in and do a characterization survey of building 322. one thing that we found that was unusual inside that building where there were different layers of floor tiles, probably four to fife different layers of floor tiles throughout the entire interior of that building. if you look at history, back in the day when that facility, that site was operational,
any -- any other facility nationwide just like it, if you had a radio active spill, a lot of times, you would decontaminate, and then, you would put another layer of tiles over the original tiles to prevent anything that was fixed from becoming loose over time to control it. but it was obviously to us, it was suspect that you have five different layers of tiles as such. so we reported it to the navy. we were asked if we could remove or separate the tiles to see what was underneath, but they were glued down with something that was better than gorilla glue. finally, the decision was made we would scrape them all up, survey the floor underneath. the material, the tiles, they were labeled as radio active and asbestos containing tiles, and they were properly disposed off-site. after that, we surveyed the
>> supervisor kim: i'm sorry. you'll have to come back up to the microphone. >> supervisor cohen: the answer was absolutely. >> supervisor fewer: first, in your opinion, is parcel a completely safe for people to be living there? >> the answer is i don't know because it hasn't been properly tested. >> supervisor fewer: so in your opinion, i just want to get on the record, should parcel a be retested? >> yes. emphatically, yes. >> yes. >> supervisor fewer: thank you very much. >> supervisor cohen: all right, folks, we're going to go back to our regular public comment format. i just want to remind you, you'll hear a soft chime indicating 30 seconds remaining on your time to talk. madam, the floor is yours. >> my name is leeann pitman. i'm a resident of bayview-hunters point. i lived there for a decade and was president of the tenant's association. i've dealt with a lot of
residents and children. this is my grandson that i have custody of and have been raising since birth, and we suffer from asthma and a lot of respiratory issues. we catch pneumonia very quickly to a sickness or due to a cold. we're in the hospital much of the time. i think due to all of the toxins up there in the bayview, this is my generation of off spring of my family that has been affected, not only myself as aid grandmother, but my son, which is to carry on my name has been affected, and i'm concerned about -- [inaudible] >> thank you, ma'am.
[inaudible] >> thank you. >> thank you. your time expired. >> i think it's a shame that on this very, very critical meeting or hearing that we are given just one minute. it's a shame while you supervisors are asking questions, some of which are relevant, but 99% are not relevant. let me remind you that depleted uranium was tested on hunters point. now, i ask you, does this city have the liability, having killed so many infants, children, those with compromised health, that this mickey mouse today has been
brought here today, the hearing, when we have been writing with articles of empirical data, shame on supervisors, shame on you. for amy brownell to come here and lie, all of you, parcel a still has high levels of radio activity. [inaudible] >> thank you. thank you. >> shame on you, supervisors. shame on you. >> supervisor cohen: yes. thank you. next speaker. >> my name is regina mitchell. i've been in the bayview for over 65 years. thank you because the department of public health doesn't know what they're talking about. i'm a product of uterine cancer. thank god i'm still here, but i had a 20 month old granddaughter that was diagnosed september 2014 to die
thanksgiving morning 2015 from liver cancer. she lived at 2 navy road, which is right by the fence for the shipyard, so all you people can talk the talk but you're not walking the talk. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. bradley angel, green action for health and environmental justice. in my one minute, i want to bring two issues to your attention why we need real community oversight. one, we don't trust the government. from city hall, from ocii, to san francisco department of public health, to state and federal agencies, they all met starting 1.5 years behind closed doors in this building with no minutes being taken, with lennar, and that's what's going on, a mad rush to build rich people's homes and a cover up of the truth. second, mr. manzanilla from
e.p.a. seemed to have no other recollection of contracts with tetratech. well, region nine e.p.a., his boss, whose husband works for tetratech gave an $85 million grant to tetratech in october when they knew about all this corruption to work on the navajo nation. so the navajo people and bayview hunters -- [inaudible] >> thank you. >> supervisor cohen: thank you. [applause] >> i'm here for treasure island. i want to let you know that treasure island's a super fund site, but the people of treasure island, they live right on top of the pollution. you guys violated hud, the tenant landlord and state law, the tenant landlord disclosure laws, treasure island, what you
you guys going to do about the tenants on treasure island? we've been -- i talked to the board of supervisors and gave you guys jane kim, and everybody, i gave you all the navy guys on their e-mail. i'm serious, what are you guys going to do about the people on treasure island, that's my question? are you goiuys going to get th off the island? two women in my building died, two different people died, so i'm asking you guys, what are you going to do -- [inaudible] >> thank you. >> hi. good afternoon. andre paterson. i'm a former tenant on super fund site treasure island. i have two cancerous tumors from treasure island. i'm still trying to find out why you ghiez have not been
evacuating tenants off of treasure island. jane kim has got information from me. i tried to talk to her, and she shut the door in my face. i think 24e should have a moratorium, and get those people off of treasure island. >> thank. >> i feel for all the people on treasure island. now that i know about this, i care about it boit's ae not about me, it's about the kids. it's about the ones that's growing up. they going to be the future, but how can they be the future if they sick, if they diing away with cancer and all these other type of illness, so i'm counting on the supervisors to make a difference, make a difference. take a look at yourself and make that change. this is the only way i can give back to my community. that's why i do it,
bayview-hunters point. mother's and fathers committee green action for environmental justice and help, we are the power, and power and the people, and the power and the people that won't stop. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hello. i'm steve teal. my family moved to bayview-hunters .2 years ago, and due to the levels of social environmental and economic justice had to get involved. i come to you as a member of brieth. spoke person's comments about the navy about parcel a residents being safe even though they're next to the super fund site kind of struck me as interesting. when i go to the hospital and have an x-ray, x-ray technician go behind a lead proof wall. the community is not at the table, be assured that the community will be on the menu.
this is the time for justice, and i would encourage the navy to evan courage restore ative and -- encourage restore ative justice going forward. i would like to encourage that they increase the zero community residents today -- [inaudible] >> thank you. >> first things first, this only happened because this was a minority and low-income community. i'm a native to bayview-hunters point, member of san francisco board of education, lost both of my grandparents to cancer who lived at 32 west point road, which is right around the shipyard. like supervisor kim's point earlier, may not be a direct correlation, but you tell me what you think. so i just came up here to say this. actions as a result of this injustice will not stop with this hearing today. i know there's retesting coming
forward to right some wrongs, but i want to be clear that we have already been in conversations with the city attorney's office, have talked to city torch dennis herrera -- attorney dennis herrera about possible litigation with tetratech. i'm going to make sure it happens as a community leader in bayview-hunters point. we will not let this go unpunished. >> thank you. next speaker. >> michelle pierce, bayview-hunters point community advocates. i want to start by saying i find it unacceptable the level of patriarchy and level of assumptio assumptions here. i can understand the data, kim, there are several residents in bayview-hunters point that can understand the data, and people will tell you since 2014, i have kb a