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officers, that implicit bias can lead to officers' safety concerns, and that catches their attention. it was incredible. it was really well done. i'll let the commissioners talk about their experience, but it was really great, and we're doing it for all the officers. it's part of what we're doing with this 21st century policing. in addition to that we've been working on the building 606 issue. also during this period of time, we are going to lose our assistant and legislative assistant rania adwan. we're doing research to find out how to hold her here. i was to thank her -- please come forward. [applause]
>> please come forward. i've been warned yet again, i just didn't listen. ran rania's been great in working to us in getting reform from the mayor's office. she's been in consulting in her entire career. this was her first time in the public sector. she's done a great job. she's been available to us 24-7. her work has been invaluable to the commission, members of the public, police commission. you were a good friend to our former president, julius turman through tough times. you took good care of him, and i want to thank you for that. you've been an awesome assistant, we really don't want you to go, so feel free to change your mind. i want to thank you, and there'll be more later, but i want to turn this over to the other commissioners. commissioner elias.
>> yes. i'm very sad to see miss rania leave. i hope it wasn't because john and i scared her away. so if you do change your mind, please stay. >> commissioner dejesus? >> right. people don't know we have wonderful, wonderful people behind us who do all the hard work, including the city attorney. rania tackles a lot of these -- the use of force, a lot of policy. she's worked on a lot of policy. she's worked on the d.o.j. reforms, she's rounded all of us up, which is hard to do, and assigned us all different tasks. she's been great, and she has a way of taking really complicated material and reducing it so they're edible bites, which really helps us, especially in meetings.
it's going to be like having our right arm cutoff, we're going to miss you, but i want you to know you have contributed here, and you have successfully worked the department and found your way around that department, and we're going to miss that. that's going to be hard to train someone else if we can get someone else, so thank you. >> commissioner hamasaki. >> and policy analyst radhawan, i just want to say thank you. you have made my entry in joining the commission smooth and helped guide me through a lot of the complex issues that we deal with every day, and so i'm grateful to you for your service, wish you weren't leaving, and wanted to extend the welcome to always come back for public comments and get up and share your feelings of the day. >> as long as i get three minutes. i want my three minutes, but i do want to say thank you so much. >> oh, there's some more people
that want to talk to you. director henderson. >> yeah, i was just warming up here. so i just want to say i've known rania since she was a fellow before she even came to and through the office at the mayor's office when i was at the mayor's office, and so working with her over this past year, especially in my transition to the agency has been invaluable, and her contributions, not just to the work that's being done at d.p.a. but her contributions to the mayor's office and her work with this commission specifically with the close support that she provided to julius and the rest of the commission during complicated at best events, including d.o.j. roll out, has been invaluable. it seems almost surreal to me that we are having this conversation. i'm not sure if this is a salary negotiation that we're doing here, but i -- i would
say that if there is a possibility to keep rania here with us, i will say that there's candy up here if that will make any difference for you to stay, under whatever circumstances, but i do want to acknowledge what a meaningful contribution your work has been to all of our lives and all of this work. we are a better city, we are a safer city because of the work that you've contributed to us over the years, and we are very sorry to see you go. and at the very least, you should extend it at least six months. >> commissioner hirsch? >> i guess i'm the only one that's glad you're leaving. no, i'm kidding. you've been really terrific, and i have your phone number, so i'll still be able to reach out to you. >> you will. >> and you'll have no one to bill, but we'll still seek your
advice. you've been really terrific, and i want to thank you publicly. >> again, as a policy analyst, you've been very helpful to us. and i know there's folks in england waiting for you, and i know that's very important, but -- oh, chief scott would like to talk to you. >> thank you. i know i told you this in person, when i first arrived on scene, you were doing two jobs. i know how difficult that must have been, but thank you for all the work. i know as director henderson said, sometimes you had to be the mediator in these very intense discussions about policy and whatnot, but you've done a good job, and we thank you for all the work that you've done. we have a lot of members of the police department in here, and we thank you for everything. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> can i say now? >> yes. >> no, but it really has been a tremendous honor.
see the 28 cadets but also their families, their proud parents and siblings there to support them, and to see the youth experience with respect to how they view the police officer, i know that chief scott has partaked in engaging the youth with the san francisco police department to sort of bridge the gap with the youth and sort of the police officers, and i thought this was an excellent way to do that, and it was really, really a great experience and i would encourage the others to attend the graduation. i'm not sure when they're going to have another cadet graduation with the youth. i think chief scott may have more information on that. >> we haven't scheduled another
community youth announcement yet, but it was a great event, and a lot of the youth got a lot out of it, so thank you for coming. >> yes. in addition to that, commissioner hamasaki and i attended the tenderloin community meeting and listened to their concerns as they raised them with the captain of the tenderloin station and his command staff. a lot of the concerns that they were raising were surrounded around the fact that there was -- they felt, a lot of police presence in terms of foot patrol in certain areas of the tenderloin, and they were requesting that the captain make more of a police presence on the northern side of market, not just market street, where a lot of the sort of foot patrol is present, so that was very interesting. another interesting interesting event that commissioner hamasaki and i attended was the
tenderloin police commission lineup. it was the day shift -- the day shift? >> swing shift. >> swing shift. >> swing shift, swing shift lineup that we were able to attend and meet some of the officers at the tenderloin station. it was very informative for myself and commissioner hamasaki with respect to the concerns that the officers are facing. and one of the concerns that they sort of mentioned was the fact that there was a lack of narcan kits available to them. it's my understanding that they're only -- the narcan kits are currently in the
trauma-first aid kits which are located in each vehicle, and there are approximately 15 vehicles there in the tenderloin station, and some of the officers had concerns as to the availability of the narcan for people who did not have a vehicle but were doing foot patrol and/or on bikes. and so they raised that concern, and we were currently in the process of trying to remedy that situation so we d did -- can make the narcan kits available to the officers more readily because we all know, especially in that part of town, sometimes vehicle traffic is so horrendous that the only way to get to scenes and sometimes, officers, when they arrive on scene, they're on foot and/or on bike, and so we want to make sure that these narcan kits are available to them because as we know in terms of the opioid crisis that's currently happening, sometimes moments and seconds are vital between life and death, and so we want to make sure that the officers have the tools they need to make sure that they can save a life when necessary. >> thank you. commissioner hamasaki? >> thank you, commissioner mazzucco. just to follow up, in both of the experiences that commissioner elias discussed
us to do and we don't want our officers to do, so i think it's a wonderful program. i also wanted to mention that i visited with the japantown task force, which is made up of merchants and leaders in the japantown community and had a chance to meet with them about their concerns in the japantown and fillmore area. they had a lot of wonderful things to say about the department but also some of the challenges that exist out there, and it was a real pleasure and an honor for me to go out there and hear from the leaders of that community. so it's been a busy month, even though we haven't been in meetings. >> thank you, commissioner hamasaki? anything further? please call the next line item. we're not done yet, magic. >> item 3-d, commission
morning, i saw them running out of the north face store with a bunch of jackets, no cops, no police, no nothing. i'm a little concerned, we have a lot of people with specialty details, you see a lot of police officers on twitter. i'd like to see more police officers on the beat, more feet on the ground, so if we can get an idea of what's happening on that front, that would be great. commissioner hirsch? yeah, i know last week. i think the commissioners all received the latest 96-a report, and i'm just wondering if we can get that calendared for discussion sometime in the next meeting or two. we typically do discuss it publicly, and i think it's worthwhile. it's the data. it's the arrest data -- it's a comprehensive report. it's -- yeah, it's interesting. >> yeah. thank you. commissioner dejesus.
>> so i talked about this before, the wealth and disparities in the black community, justice for mario woods would like to present their statistics analysis to the police commission on racially disparate sfpd use of force. they've had these numbers that they've wanted to talk to us for a while about, so i'm wondering if i can give everybody a heads up that that is coming. and then, there's also the sunshine task force sent us all a letter a while back, and that letter basically said that our vote violated the sunshine ordinance, and we discussed that letter. i really think we should put it on the agenda and at least discuss the letter and whether we're going to comply or not. i know if we're going to, it's
voluntary compliance, but i think we should at least address that. i keep getting contacted about what we're doing, and i think we should stop being silent and put it forward and discuss it. >> we should wait obviously until we have a full commission, too, so hopefully, that'll happen in the month of september, but thank you for that, and i think we'll hear a little bit about that during public comment. anything further? >> clerk: public comment on items 3-a through 3-d. >> good evening, magic. >> good evening. so i would request that you return our time to three minutes. the whole report powerpoint was deleted. you know full well that i was coming as a prepared item on the tasers, and i there's
implicit bias against what i'm going to say but you cutting it down to -- by you cutting it down to two minutes. i don't think it's fair. i took time to prepare. even rania asked to have her three minutes, and i would ask in honor of her. it's not fair, it's arbitrary, and i don't think it's fair. >> i've already announced that. you have a minute 26 to go. >> okay. first of all, i'd like to say spitting can hardly be considered harm to an officer as she was slammed into the body of a police car and her body went limp. i am appalled. where is the use of force training? obviously this child has deep problems and psychological difficulty. we're supposed to help children, not throw them against the car. it's appalling. it's absolutely appalling that this can happen in our community, and we want an investigation outside of the police department to get something done here so this never, ever happens to a child in our community again.
>> thank you. good evening, mr. harts. long time no see. >> did you miss me? i have to tell you, i'm extremely interested in the d.p.a., particularly as it indicates to reporting requirements between this commission and the sfpd, going forward, i would like to see if there's any real accountability, something that the public can see besides dry numbers. i have regularly attended meetings of the ethics commission and after ten years of attendance don't know of a single thing they have done to improve the ethics of this city government. they shuffle papers, kill huge number of trees and only manage to shuffle events. i've likened it to shuffling deck chairs on the titanic.
they have no enforcement power and can only recommend that the offending parties take action against themselves. it's ridiculous. will the p.d.a. actually achieve any level of account ability? that's the open question. and to finish out, i'd like to talk about page seven of the annual report where it talks about mediation. under the old o.c.c., i brought this up a couple times and was told by members of the police commission i was wrong until the last o.c.c. commissioner said no, mr. harts is right. the way i understand the
mediation process is if i as a citizen file a complaint and agree to mediation, if they setup a mediation appointment, and i show up, and the officer doesn't my case is dismissed. that's the end of the case. it's closed. well, that's the way it was under the o.c.c., and i have the documents at home. i'll bring them the next time because the previous o.c.c. director said yes, that's the instance. 'cause i filed a complaint and they asked me aif i wanted to mediate, and i said you must be out of your head. [please stand by]
>> police are engaged in treason and the fact that the police themselves are unlawful. they go against the constitution. the constitution of the united states, which is the supreme law of the land was based on the virginia constitution and the declaration of rights, and article section 113 states a well regulated militia composed of the body of people turning to arms is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state that's standing army which is would be the police n times of peace should be avoided as dangerous to liberty. in all cases the military should be under strict subordination to and governed by the central powers. some people were concerned about tazeers and the police with taser, but i am here to say the police are unlawful and the only lawful action the police can take is to stand down. whenever i am come up here, i am
giving the stand down orders. the constitution of california says the united states constitution is the supreme law of the land. it says standing armies should be prohibited. this violates article one, section 8 of the u.s. constitution which says that congress can only designate gait funds for up to two years for any standing army. the police are acting in contradiction to the law. ironically what is called law enforcement is in complete violation of the law, and the militia, which is when properly formed, the entire body of the body trained to arms is the only legitimate and lawful law enforcement body of the united states. the police are engaged in treason by protecting and abating the american people. sfpd were protected barak and
anyone who knows about geopolitics know that israel and the united states carried out the 9/11 attacks against the american people. off thank you. your time is up. next speaker. hey, clyde. welcome back. >> thank you, thomas jefferson. okay. i have been assigned by mayor breed to be the poop patrol. it's a tough job. it's unpaid. okay, mayor breed. i voted for you and campaigned for you. first of all, i remember when you couldn't -- >> keep it good, clyde. >> i remember that. remember that? >> i can't find a job, clyde. i can't find a home. god bless you. found one. she's got 1.47 million last year and does he shovel [bleep]? >> and address the entire panel. >> let's go more topic.
let's talk about the texting incident. we have nine police officers involved in a racist texting. what is there status? they say, sure, i'm going to fire them. well, you broke the one-year law. and if you can't bring trial against me in more than one year, i'm done. i'm clear. the court overruled that. wait a minute, you can't have those options. where are they? where are they, commissioners? have they been in front of this commission or are they still drawing a paycheck? where are they? where are they, police commission? i can look up and i can go up to the office and tell you everyone on payroll. and might come up with real
weird names. you're bad. >> thank you, clyde. >> next speaker. welcome back. >> ray heart, san francisco government. and i am the director of the san francisco open government and can be contacted at sfopengovernment bs@ait comecast.net. tonight i would like to talk about the agenda which makes it clear that the police commission does not want public input. it puts general public comment as far down the agenda as it is possible. if a member wishes to speak to you about anything not on the agenda as a separate item, they have to come here and sit for an indeterminant period to whittle down public comment through attrition. it serves the additional purpose of insuring that the nice people have already participated and gone home. after all, we wouldn't want the
nice people to hear things you don't want them to hear. going to a comment someone made earlier, it is really indicative and andrew carnegie said i have stopped in old age listening to what people say and watching what they do. you control 95% of the meeting and where do you make a cut to go into closed session? you cut the public comment's time down by a minute. that is a very clear signal to what you think of public comment. we'll get to it when we get to it, and if you want to comment, come and sit for an hour, two hour, three hours. when we get to it, you can get up and say something. when you have the cut to cut down on your own verbose and you take the public and say we're going to take your time away
from you. the sunshine ordinance and up to three minutes says i don't have to talk for three minutes if i want to talk for one or two. and that's fine. instead, up to three minutes. and that is our choice, not yours. >> thank you. >> welcome back. >> the sunshine force voted that tasers were in violation of the brown act as they were denied entrance into their own meeting. we were taught to believe if we participate in this so-called democracy through the channels created by law t public servant wills do their job to uphold our rights. i spent six months gathering evidence and witnesses to prove that our rights were violated. i sent the information of the decision to all of you. and no response. i spoke at the meetings to ask you to deliberate. and i appreciate you said you
will put this on the agenda, but i want this to be done as soon as possible. apparently this commission does not show yet that this recognize the control from the instruments declared in the brown act. apparently many felt political expediency was important and risking political careers would out in be what anyone wanted to do here. this law was created in 1993 to protect us. we led the country in creating this public support for our work. promises in h with an example of your policies and your rights being upheld, you should show the same respect because you are not legally forced to do something, but ethically obliged. i am not asking you to vote again on tasers. we need you to rescind the vote and get back to the business of enacting the 271 other
recommendations. and the killings and the abuse by so-called peace officers. do you not hear the call for each of us to do everything in our power to stop the mad snns the time now is to push back on every front. put this on the agenda, vote to rescind, and give back to the business at hand. >> thank you, ma'am. any further public comment? mr. brown? good evening, mr. brown. >> i would like to use the overhead as usual. again, i am bringing up my son. he was murdered august 14. yesterday was the day of his
murder, and we had media coverage, and also, i want to thank the media, police department media relations unit for putting up this flyer and helping me every year with my son's case. and bringing awareness to the unsolved homicides including my son's, so thank you for that. i also want to say i spoke with the former sheriff and supervisor of district 5. and he couldn't show up, but he sent me a text message to say he is appalled about the $250,000
reward that i have. and nine other cases that also got a reward, and none of them has been solved. and he said not even the f.b.i.'s most wanted and other high cases have gotten these rewards. and so he's really worried about how the cases are being -- i didn't read it all what he said, and still, my daughter and myself are grieving over my son's case. we still don't have a venue. i have to climb up on a pole as you see on the news and hang the flyers up, not every year, every day. we have no venue and i have been asking for that for the last 11, 12 years.
>> thank you, mrs. brown. anymore public comment? hearing none, public comment is none. public comment is closed. ms. brown comes in hopes of gaining attention for the murder of her son who was a graduate of st. dominick's grammar school and about to graduate from high school and ms. brown went and received his diploma. he was a great kid. and one of the things we hear the d.o.j. recommendations about what the police should do, what the police should do, what the police should do, but the community is a big part of that equation. and nobody has the courage and conviction to come forward. that tells you a little bit about the fear out there being a former prosecutor and a gang prosecutor, $250,000 won't get somebody to come forward and help solve the murder of this young man. and in other murders. it's not enough money. so the community has to make a decision whether or not they're going to work with law enforcement to solve this murder and give ms. brown some closure. if anybody has any information, i know ms. brown usually gives
the names of the perpetrators that are involved. one i actually participate in sending to federal prison for a while, but he's back out. one is dead, no surprise. and the tip line is 415-575-4444. thank you, ms. brown. please call the next line item. >> i have a comment or a question. >> sure. commissioner hirsch. >> commissioner: can the director anderson comment about mediation and how mediation is functioning right now in a couple of sentences? >> sure. just in reference to the comment before that that is not how mediation works and if the officer chooses to not participate and that case is not prosecuted and that case is dismissed. that is -- i have never seen that rule in the past when the agency was the o.c.c., but that is absolutely not the rule now in terms of how the case goes.
the cases move forward through mediation. how mediation works is cases are resolved independent of the actual prosecution and sustained cases for transgressions, but the new rule in mediation now is moving into a different direction is expand how more case cans fit in to and through the mediation model. and to start training the mediators for a standard of behavior for d.p. a. and mediation that i was going to make a report on but after the conference takes place which is next tuesday. i want to expand how cases go through mediation itself and the mediation is one of the highest rated services. it has almost a 90% approval rating for the people that
participate in mediation. often times cases are resolved with apologies or with sitting down and with community groups or individuals that just need to know why things happen the way they happened. and a better understanding of how the police department understands and operates specifically in terms of how it works in built back up with the disconduct and what is going on and why things go on when they see things they don't understand. is that story behind that? has something happened or occurred that i didn't know about that might explain behavior i saw or was involved in with the police. >> when you revisit this and make a report, i would like to know and the public should know,
what happens when an officer doesn't appear? >> i don't need the answer now. >> i can answer it now. >> the case proceeds and we conduct the investigation and assessment for evaluation for a case being sustained or not. >> you can't force somebody to mediate, but still investigate. >> absolutely. it's going to be investigated anyway. the mediation is an alternative when all the parties agree to participate in the mediation. if either side is not agreeing to the mediation t case proceeds as a full investigation towards sustaining a case. >> thanks. >> thank you. >> item 6, public comment on all matters pertaining to item 8 below, closed session, including public comment on vote whether to hold item 8 in closed session. >> an any public comment rarting our closed session? hearing none, public comment is now closed. call the next line. strike that. sergeant stockwell?
>> well, this is public comment about us going into closed session. >> i'm sorry? >> this is public comment about us going into closed session. >> right. about closed session. >> we will discuss that in closed session. >> public comment after the closed session? >> you go out in. sergeant stockwell, go ahead. retired sergeant. >> an i am a plaintiff in the case of stockwell versus the city and county of san francisco. first and foremost, i would like to advise the commission that the city attorney representing the city and county of san francisco does not have a signed settlement agreement contract from the 29 plaintiffs in this case. the settlement agreement contract was never executed. as a result of the many of the 29 plaintiffs refusing to sign the settlement agreement, our own attorneys have filed a motion to withdraw as counsel in this case claiming a conflict of interest. that will probably be granted at a hearing in superior court this friday. after the motion is granted,
plaintiffs in this case intend to seek new representation and proceed with this lawsuit. thank you for your time. i am glad i didn't take more than two minutes. >> thank you, juanita. god to see you. mr. hart? >> again, ray hart, open government. i have been doing this open government business for a decade now. i have 36 orders of determination from the sunshine ordinance task force finding various city elected official, boards, and commissions, etc., guilty of either withholding public records or interfering with public comment. and so i know whereof i speak. these closed sessions are always done in a way that i just don't buy it. i understand that there is necessity to have privacy for certain things like personnel matters and others, but at the end, what it always comes down to is are we going to disclose anything at all? and the answer is always no. it doesn't matter whether it's
the ethics commission or this body or any other body in this city. if they go into closed session, they always come back and there is absolutely nothing they tell the public. that's not open government. are re-asking you to tell most or all of what happened? no. but to say reasonably that five or six people can go into a room for hours at a time and come out and then vote and say absolutely and. and sf open government bs. i have 36 orders of determination and that proves as a matter of fact these are not just claims i i make. these are cases that went before the task force and these officials are found to have either withheld public records
or interfered with public comment. and the thing that i can't understand about it more than anything else is every single member takes a vote to defend the united states constitution of america against all enemies, foreign and domestic. >> any other public comment? hearing none, public comment is now closed. call the next line item. >> item 7, vote on whether to hold item 8 in closed session including on whether to i a sert the attorney-client privilege with regard to 8a, 8b, 8c, san francisco administrative code 67.10, action. >> a motion to move into closed session. >> so moved. >> just to clarify. item 8c is off calendar. >> that is correct. >> so moved. >> do i have a second? >> yes. >> an all in favor? >> t
>> commissioners, do i have a motion with -- >> this is item nine, vote to disclose any or all information held in closed session, san francisco code 67.12 action. >> do i have a motion for nondisclosure. >> so moved. >> okay. second? all in favor? [voting] >> item ten, adjournment, action item. >> do i have a motion. >> so moved. >> second? >> second. >> okay. all in favor? [voting] >> okay. thank you very much, everybody.
>> (clapping.) >> in san francisco the medical examiner performs the function of investigating medical and legal that occurs with the city and county of san francisco from a variety of circumstances in san francisco there is approximately 5 thousand deaths annually i'm christopher director for the chief mr. chairman the chief my best testimony a at the hall of justice on 870 drooint street that is dramatically updated and not sufficient for the medical chairman facility i've charles program manager public works should a earthquake of a major are proportion occurs we'll not continue to perform the services
or otherwise inhabit the building before the earthquake. >> we're in a facility that was designs for a department that functions and in the mid 60s and friends scientific has significantly changed we've had significant problems with storage capacity for evidence items of property and also personal protective if you're doing a job on a daily basis current little storage for prirjs are frirnlsz we're in an aging facility the total project cost forever ever commercial is $65 million the funding was brought by a vote of go bond approved by the voters and the locations is in the neighborhood the awarded contract in 2013 and
the i'm the executive director we broke ground in november 2015 and that started with the demolition of existing facility we moved into the foundation and january so pile foundation and then with second construction of the new facility. >> one of the ways that we keep our project on time on budget and we're having quality to have regular meeting and the variety of meetings with construction process meeting as well as cost of control meeting and i'm a project manager for public works the office of chief commercial we want walk the project site when we sign up and also with a contractor insinuates for a change over we need to verify what or what was instead of. >> the building is 42 feet
tall so it is two stories and 46 thousand square feet roughly we're that's a great question to be on time and budget have the roof complete a the exterior moving with the site work. >> and as you can see we've got a lot of the interior finishes installed. >> in an effort of an differentiate the facility that designed to work for 72 hours. >> not taking into account there was a lot of structural updates made into this building not seen in other construction throughout san francisco or other barriers we have friday morning examiners from 8 to one public comment monday to friday because of air circulation we literally have to shut the doors and so the autopsy is done without staffing being able to come and go or exit the space and literally lock down the
autopsy in the new facility we have bio build one door opens and closed behind you you can gown up and go through a second seizures of doors that has its own independent air supply and now in the exterior opt space having that middle space have greater flexibility of staff as they move in and out of the area. >> in the current facility investigative unit has small tiny, tiny place in the area of the new facility is almost doubled in all divisions from the current facility and the new facility. >> the planning we have here gives them the opportunity to have the pool needs to complete theirs jobs in a much more
streamlined fashion. >> we're looking forward to have secured parking to minimize the egress of you know visiting and the members of the public but really to minimize the investigators remaining remains from our advancing and so the facility. >> we have a new visitors area we're building that is a little bit more friendly to families. >> one thing you may notice in the room no windows there is no natural light not good for most autopsy but in the new facility at new hall we made that an objective they want to insure we were able to look up in the middle of exam and see the sky and see natural
lights. >> that's one of the things the architect did to draw in as much light as possible. >> we have staff here onsite we insure the design of the new design enables the investigators and other investigators skiefksz to consider to house on site this meant we needed to design and plan for locker room facilities and shower rooms the ability to sleep. >> third of the construction going into the building has been by contributions of small businesses. >> part of the project is also inclusive to the sidewalk have all new sidewalks and new curve cuts and landscaping around the building we'll have a syrup in front of the building and rain guardian. >> the medical examiner's office has been a several if in their contributions of the
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do what is doing. in 198 8 i graduated from cal state los ang and studied mostly classical percussion and music education but at the same time i was in hollywood so played at night in rock bands so was doing two different things. >> the reason i'm [inaudible] the people. there is a extremely vibrant art community especially arounds the red poppy art house [inaudible] as a artist in the past 2 or 3 years there is a event called the [inaudible] every 3 months a free art music festival that i usually play at and just met so many people. >> i was teaching a little bit and doing odd jobs like waitressing and going at night and playing in
bands and meeting a lot of people. i chss in ban that had cool break jz get parts on tv shows or things like that. a friend of mine, we had mutual friends that got signed to a record deal in san francisco called 4 nonblaunds and i addition frd the bands and moved to the bay area. i think things are different now than 30 years ago, the world evolved a lot. it could be a challenge but have to know how to negotiate everything and sometimeatize is [inaudible] it was great to get to a point where i was just treated like another one of the people, a musician not a female musician and that is always what [inaudible] >> you don't hear stuff on the
radio [inaudible] i need to write music [inaudible] be more conscious in their decisions and somehow make that poetic so they will be convinced. i think i will do that. [singing in backgrounds] drawing and writing music since i was a really little kid and fortunate enough to have a good education in art and parentss who supported me. i hope my life will continue to allow me to do both. >> for me now having all male, female girls, boys students it shows the world has changed a lot and people areope toon open to a lot more than they were in the past. you can get a deep satisfaction from responding a lot of year practicing in one thing and becoming really good at something. sometimes i think that it is better to