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face that were posted all over social media. my understanding, the police prevented his parents from accompanying them while he was questioned. that was very concerning for me as a parent. was really probably what most caused me to call this hearing today and to look at this m.o.u. in this situation. and then he was, as you said, released that same day and was not charged, to this day has not been charged. what i am seeing is this young boy who, you know, is attached to his school, he was embarrassed in front of his peers and his community. went from being a innocent kid to the kid associated with a violent gun situation, which i can't even imagine what that does to his reputation on campus
and his future. it's concerning. so that sort of the context under which we're here today and we're having this discussion. and so, you know, we're starting this conversation -- we've already started the conversation. what i'm looking to get out of this is more clarity, which you provided and it's helpful, of what the policies and protocols are when youth are questioned by law enforcement in schools and outside of schools. i also am really looking forward to the hearing from the community who really haven't had a chance like this to tell their story and what that experience was like from their perspective and how they would like to see change happen in the future. and then i want to see, are there gaps that we need to be filling with new policies. for example, before this, i had no idea that 15-year-olds were treated different from 16 to
16-year-olds. it doesn't make sense to me. there's a gap already that i've found. are there other ways we can make our lies and striking again with that difficult balance. perhaps a little bit better. and i say this on the context that i know, from working with you for many years, commander, that you know, there's such a difference between the youth brain and adult brain. and the more and more research that is coming out, you know, it is making that more abundant and giving us further clarity on that difference. to engage in counter factual
reasons. it's not the same between a youth and adult. we have to recognize that and protect for that in our criminal-justice system. so, with that, that's the purpose of this hearing many of i'm really appreciative of you and for mr. trueitt for being here. we're going to hear from the youth commission and they've been talking about this issue as well and again, really appreciate that. so maybe if you don't have anything more to say now -- >> when you are ready for me. >> go for it. ok, so in terms of balboa high school, i've had a lengthy conversation with captain jack heart, who you work closely with and does a great job. he is a great lead' and good community and organizer making with the community. we've had a lengthy conversation about this incidents. i read all the documents. i've asked a lot of questions in the last couple of days.
so, i know you and i have worked together for many, many years and we have worked on things together. the first thing i'd like to mention, in our opinion, the officer showed a lot of restraint the way they handled the situation. a gun is discharged. we don't know who is injured. how many suspects? who has guns. is this a real active shooter happening in our city in one of our schools. we had ups. we responded to that situation. as opposed to creating big evacuations and getting kids out on the field with their hands up and sending swat teams in and doing all these things, the decision by captain hart, which in our opinion was excellent, early onset, look, let's just shelter and try to be as low key as possible with this to the extent we can. i mean, it's hard. we're both parents of kids in the city many of it's hard to cope them in the classroom and they're curious. let's keep them in the
classroom. let's just methodically try to figure this thing out. by the way, since captain hart, since he has an excellent relationship with the principal, establish that relationship way in advance, let's utilize the staff at the school district to just look at the video camera and figure out who did what and who is who. officers went in. they figured out quickly who actually had the gun and did the shooting. they contacted that person's parents. they were working that out. and then the 2003 others that -s that were detained, not to give identities, were figured to be involved in this incident in some way by, basically being an accessory after the fact in terms of the gun handed off, the clothing handed off and those sorts -- the backpacks were discarded and all those things. the officers really just pieced it together and tried to keep things super low key, went in,
found one individual. where is the gun? it's in my backpack. i'm detaining you. where is the clothing and this and that -- in our minds, we had probable cause to arrest. beyond reasonable suspicion to detain. arrest for a crime. one of the youth actually had the begu global news inthe gun . the captain thinking the whole time, the youth are hungry. they have to use the bathroom. there's all these things going on. that's part of it. in the beginning, officers under the rule were asking like, do you have a gun? where is the clothing? what's this and that? are you the person or is the person gone? in terms of going out of the school. the m.o.u. is really clear. it says, do not -- do not violate the privacy by exposing students to other students. i think the thought process there was, the kids have been in the class a long time.
we have to get these individuals out quickly. a lot of time has gone by. we have to get them out of the building. captain hart and the team put a lot of thought into it. should we go seneca, where are the cars? we need three cars. we need three separate cars. let's get the cars with the blacked out windows. where is the media? they're on the front and the side. there's people in the back. people with cameras. ok, we have to do this quickly. let's get him out the front. get him out the front and put him in the cars. by the way, the way that acting captain ed del carlo set up, the cars were facing away from the media. it's challenging. there's a lot evolving and a lot of things to consider. we understand the point. we don't want anyone photographed. we don't want any of that to happen. i want to tell you the officers
and captain hart put a lot of thought into, in a quick amount of time, how to best get them out and they made a judgment call to get them out the way of kayuga. the third point is this, so, the youth at the station were not interrogated, questioned. they weren't -- to my knowledge and i'm representing the department. and i've been told and this is the truth, they were not interviewed, interrogated requested and there's no documentation that shows this. what happened with one parent is one parent was with their young person. they left the station for a minute to make a phone call outside. the officer, who is sitting in front of this particular student, awkward, silence says hey, let's talk football. comes up with some topic to talk to the young person about. when the parent came back to the
station, supervisor, that parent was very upset believing that o we tricked someone. we waited for the parent to leave to start questioning and that we were caught questioning when the parent returned. i've been told there's no questions related to this incident. i hope i've been able to explain the issues that you've raised here. and to conclude by saying, in our opinion, we can always evaluate and assess on how we can do things better. however, we're very proud about our performance and our partnership with the school district that day. >> well, i see many people shaking their heads in the audience. >> i can't see them. >> which is why i'm telling you. i want -- i don't know if my colleague has any questions. no. so if maybe we can hear from mrc comment and i'll probably have some additional questions, if
that's ok. >> yes. thank you, very much. >> thank you. >> i'm pulling up the slides. >> good afternoon supervisor ronen and chair mandelman. thank you for this opportunity to discuss san francisco's m.o.u. with s.f. police department. i made a few slides here. there are hand outs that go over the slides.
school safety. i just pulled this from the agenda. now, in section 4 of the m.o.u., and i'm going to read this one because actually, it says if you ask about arrests on campus in an effort to minimize disruption to the learning environment. it's the m.o.u. is really focused on study rights, their privacy, parental notification and not disrupting the learning environment. commander lazar already went over those items. notification of parents when the student is taken into custody. section 17 of the m.o. united states that requires the school official must make immediate
parent-guardian notification when a student is arrested suspected victim of child abuse. in this particular case, i do want to make a point that it says, which requires a school official must make. so the police have to notify also, but in the m.o.u. it also specifies that we must. in section 18, the location of the arrest and again this was discussed also by commander lazar but absent exogen circumstances they should coordinate with the principal to the extent practical at a private location out of sight ot and sound of others. they will help avoid invasion of the study privacy and further disruption of the school campus. so those are the issues that directly from the m.o.u. and agenda i wanted to address. the m.o.u. expires in january. we'll have two community input
sessions. one of the things i want to call out is that the current m.o.u., we have agreement from the superintendent and the chief, that the current m.o.u. can stay in place until we have the new one signed and approved. we have scheduled two community meetings and again, if we need more there are flyers up here also about the community meetings, posted on the district website. we have contacted several of our community-based organizations to make sure they're there and the current m.o.u. was created with public council, the youth commission, played a great part in it and also the san francisco unified student advisory council. we're very instrumental in the creation of the m.o.u. that we have now. we are looking at an m.o.u. that we're going to revice so we're not starting from scratch and not drafting and lawyers have to go back and fourth with all the red lines, which they'll do
anyway. we're looking at revisions. >> can you highlight what some of those revisions are -- >> yep. that's the next slide. see how are you, ok. there's a couple lessons that we did learn that we know right off the bat we want to talk about. one of the things -- and this event brought out, clearly is that we need to differentiate the protocols for an active shooter response and other situations and this m.o.u. was never intended to apply to a gun going off on campus. you know, i regret that -- i don't think that was clearly understood. the m.o.u. is supposed to cover everything that happens with the police. that was never the intention. but we clearly didn't articulate that and that is why i think there's been some confusion when i have said things like m.o.u. doesn't a ply when a gun goes off. that wasn't really clear much we need to be clear about that.
i think we also need to clarify the timely notification of parents by the sfu administration in all situations, including active shooter situations. again, the police can do their notification but again, there's been something that we certainly could have done better with that in this situation. we need more explicit language regarding the information sharing expectations of both agencies. that's a big one. i don't want to go into a lot of detail there. the way we share information, and i'm particularly talking about when one of our students commits a crime and is perhaps arrested or being investigated for a situation that involves or threatens the life and safety of one of our students or campuses. we need more explicit language that allows us to share that information more immediately. another area is to have a clear process for sfpd to assist us
from materials from social media to avoid exploitation of minors. you can imagine social media is -- our kids are on social media constantly. there's a lot of situations where we need to be explicit about the support that we can go from sfpd and removing this content as quickly as possible, because we, as school district officials cannot. we need assistance there. i'd like to have revisions. of course we ha we honor and wee the community to provide us with in sight and feedback also. if the two sessions we have the community sessions that we have we'll look at the m.o.u. i brought copies of the m.o.u. there for anyone from the youth commission or anyone that wants to see that. we're going to post the comments of sections and allow people opportunities in a round-robin
situation to carousel to go around and give feedback on each section of the m.o.u. and provide people with what we come up with as a revised m.o.u. >> i think i'm going to have some additional questions after public comment. i'll just leave it there for now. >> thank you. >> thank you, so much. do you have any questions? if we can call up carolyn chung from the youth commission. >> hello. hi supervisors. hi community. so my name is caro line. i am the community partnership specialist at the youth commission. the youth commission for its 20 years, has been very invested in youth and police relations from starting town hall, from trying to establish youth employee
round tables and also with the juvenile and justice coalition, with the know your rights pamphlet and starting conversations with chief sir as well as chief scott right now. we have supported this hearing because, when there is community impacted incidents like this, it impacts youth first and for most and their families. with how we want to sensor youth in the conversation, which is why we called for this hearing to happen at 4:00. as you can see, the room has filled up because it's after school. so, with regards to this m.o.u., eve been a part of the process since 2011. we have been at the table since 2014 when it was established and eagerly are still at the table and willing to extent that table to more youth and community
stakeholders with the january renewal process. when we talk about promoting trust between the police and members of the community, we have to remember first and foremost, that there is trauma that occurs whether it's globally and locally. police officers are not the only authority figures that can create triggering moments for youth. school officials and also school resource officers institute the surveillance imprisonment and ways that limit youth ability to be themselves and be free and to just gather on a street corner. when we think about this hearing and moving forward with the m.o.u. on behalf of the youth commission to focus that transformative change is needed in how law enforcement interacts
with youth of color and other vulnerable populations in regards to focusing on training that focuses on deescalation and on mental health impacts and that police ing the teenage brain, just the phrasing of policing, institutes trauma. and we should really focus that we're interacting human beings, first and foremost. >> thank you, very much. >> thank you, so much. and before opening this up to public comment, i did notice we have judy lee from the public defenders office and i -- patty, i'm sorry. patty lee. patty, i don't know if you wanted to make comments. also, police commissioner cindy alias if you wanted to make comments before opening it up to the public comment.
i'm sorry, patty, i can't believe i got your name wrong. >> good afternoon, supervisors. thank you for convening this hearing. i think it's important, given the changes that we've seen in the law and given the incidents that occurred at balboa high school. what i wanted to bring to the attention this afternoon of this body is the fact that frankly, i think that the sb395 legislation that was enacted the first of this year, our office and i actually have miranda duty right now so if this phone goes off i have to take a callment we will field any calls from the police when there is a custodial interrogation of any child 15 and younger. in the past year, we're near the end of the year and we're
keeping the data, we have fielded over 75 calls. i wanted to talk about the impact of those calls, not only with the youth, but with the families. also, in terms of the interactions with the police and families and the communities. i think it has had a very sal you tory effect and it has helped to improve the relationships of the youth and families in the communities, with the police department. most of the youth that we work with, and i'd like to think about expanding this legislation in san francisco to all youth 17 and younger. there's not much of a difference between that 17-year-old brain and the 15-year-old brain. and in fact, most of the youth that we work with in our office have maybe 50 to 60% of these
youth have educational disabilities, have trauma, have ptsd, have unidentified disabilities. that really impact on their ability to understand important constitutional rights to protect them from self-incrimination and to protect them from false confessions. recent studies, over the past 10 years, have shown that nearly one-third, 35%, of proven e exoneration were false confessions. i think it's' it's easy to unded that, when you look at your own child, who might be in the situation of being interrogated
or questioned, not freely, not having the parent around, and then the police officer runs through the miranda rights. you have a right to a lawyer. anything you say can and be used against you towards the law. if you don't have an attorney one will be appointed to represent you. do you understand your rights? do you give them up? do you waive them? even qualities we work with do not understand it. so it's an inherently stressful situation and the brain science, over the past 10 years, has shown that children are developmentally different from adults. the cortex is not fully developed until 25 years of age and what we have found that in our calls, the police, and i thank the officers who are here have been supportive and
collaborative. they've given us the time -- i've spoken to 12-year-old kids that don't even understand what a lawyer is. i'm trying to explain i'm a lawyer and talk to them about a prosecuting attorney. talk to them about waving important constitutional rights. and i will say that i have appreciated the support from the police department in providing us ample opportunities to provide a attorney consultation to the most vulnerable youth. frankly, if this miranda legislation was enacted for 17 and younger, i don't think we would have had this situation that arose at balboa high school. i think the police officers would have automatically called our office and we would have consulted with ch that child.
we provide attorney consultation. we calm that child down. we tell that child, we're going to contact your parents or guardian. we're going to let them know you are ok. we're going to work with the police officers. they're not going to intimidate you. you will be ok. and we have assured the parents and guardians and the youth that they can contact us at any time on the miranda phone. it has really improved the interactions and the relationships between youth and the police and the families in the communities. and frankly, i think that it's only fair to state that all of us, if it were our child, under a custodial interrogation, you better know that you would have your child lawyered up. for all the youth pushed into the juvenile justice system, indigenous youth, youth of color, they don't have the 16
and 17-year-olds now don't have that right of attorney consultation. it's been a process that has really worked. it's sunshine in 2025 and i know that i will be pushing the legislature to expand the miranda consultation for all youth 17 and younger. i'm here to answer any questions if you have any. i know that it insures a process, it protects the kids and protects the community. >> thank you so much. any questions? no. >> i do have a question for commander lazar. >> thank you. >> thank you. i appreciate your comments, very much. commissioner alias. >> good afternoon, supervisors. first i'd like to thank you for having this hearing.
it's a very important topic. we appreciate you bringing this matter to light and gathering more information. i know that chief scott has been working or making efforts to build the bridge between the community, specifically the young adults and youth in our community, with the police department. i am happy that command ar lazar is here as well as lieutenant yolanda williams, who i think is a great resource and has worked with the youth in our community. i am looking forward to hearing public comment and finding the results in the m.o.u. efforts that will be made. thank you for in inviting me. >> supervisor peskin, do you want to ask a question before public comment? >> it might be helpful. let me associate myself with the comments of last speaker, relative to seemingly arbitrary age difference. i completely agree with. it seems like commonsense, i say that as the son of a social
worker. i did, relative to supervisor ronen who said it or commander lazar, but it seems to me that when you are taken down to a station and then not charged with anything, that seems kind of strange to me. i just wanted commander lazar to explain the situation, if you know anything -- if you know more details. >> thank you for that question. as mentioned earlier, we not only had reasonable suspicion to detain and investigate further but we had probable cause to arrest the three individuals that we brought to the station. one had the firearm. all three had clothing and all that stuff. i think, a lot of thought went in with captain hart and his team thinking about harm reduction, think about the trauma we're talking about here
with the youth, when they engage with law enforcement and they get detained. the trauma that happens and what happens thereafter. we go home and they're thinking about it and all that for days. i think, a great decision was made in the spirit of, you know, restorative justice, that ok, even though we have probable cause to arrest this person for the gun, this person as an accessory after the fact. this person who was somehow collaborating with the original guy that discharged the firearm. in the interest of justice, to slow down the trauma, let's release them and let's release them and let's have the district attorney make a decision about whether or not later on they should be charged. next week, i celebrate 27 years in the department. i cannot tell you a time in which a juvenile had a firearm in their position and coordinated and was an accessory after the fact to a firearm discharge in the school and they got to go back to their parents.
that's the reasoning and the thought process why they weren't charged. i asked why would they not be charged. kudos for the officers for thinking in those terms. i want to conclude by saying, captain hart went the following day and interacted with classroom to classroom to explain the why to reduce the effect of trauma. and captain hart and his team, i think a month prior, with 100 students, had a one-on-one street law class with them. mindfulness. that's what it's about for that team. thank you to be asking the questions and that's why they didn't go to jail that night or go to the juvenile justice center. >> thank you, commander. >> we will open this up to public comments. i'd ask the folks who want to speak would lineup on right side
of the room. state your first and last name into the microphone. if you have a written statement, provide it to the clerk. no applause and booing. speakers are encouraged to avoid repetition of previous statements. there are blue cards in the front of the room and it helps us if you have not already given us one, if you fill one out and give it to the clerk. so, first speaker. >> i'd like to ask if i could speak for my son and run over. my name is roberto pena. i want to say i'm a 20 year san francisco unified school district employee. i also have five police officers from sfu in my family. i'm here today because that was my son that was pulled out of balboa and a lot of what the officers said is not true. so i don't know if he was given
misinformation and i was the gentleman at the police station. i was never allowed in the police station. i just want to back up a little bit. the gun went off at 11:09. the principal had to call me to find out where my son was at because the school didn't know where my son was a lot during the lockdown. my son interacted with the kid with the gun that discharged it because school staff locked the bathroom on the third floor and my son had to come downstairs to use the bathroom. the kid went in there. if he plotted, the kid is a flesh man. my son is a senior. he is 17 years o he doesn't know the young man. it was over 15 kids in that bathroom. they detained four kids, according to the news. there was another name given to supervisor on the school board and another latino special-needs student who was detained and sfusd didn't know about it because sfpd released him to
himself. his mom came to the meeting that's how we found out this young man had been detained. the mom was never called or informed. so the gun went off at 11:09. i was on scene at 11:50. in communication with the principal. the principal asked me where my son was at. after i let the principal know where my son was at, he went up to the room with four officers and they extracted my son with ar-15s and shotgun in front of his classmates. in front of his teacher. there was 15 officers we were told per floor with ar-15s. officers escort the media to the front of the school where my son was there. >> i'm sorry, sir. your time is expired. can i get my son's time. my son is here. >> i'm looking at the clerk. we can't do that, according to
our rules. we have my son's statement. i hope you read it. there's a lot of work that needs to be done. i'm a district employee. it needs to change. >> thank you, sir. >> i will read the statement out after public comment. >> clerk: next speaker. >> thank you for having this hearing. thank you for letting me talk to you. i wish i could face the other way because hearing commander lazar's version of what he has been told just retraumtraumaties the situation for my family. having my son hear this version they would like to tell you, i mean, i'm thinking we're making progress in terms of trauma three months after the line. and this is just retraumatizing my family all over again. the statements are not true. i wish, if everything that the police are saying about wanting
to work with the community, to make things better and that the m.o.u. is coming up, i wish command ar lazar would have called me or my husband, who was there. who this did happen to. to see if everything that his subordinates were telling him. if the concern was there, there would have been other investigations to the families that it happened to. and let's talk about trauma and oh, let's have this brilliant idea of going in front of cayuga where all the parents were there scared for their children. they had a clear, front facial view of my child's face. not one police officer said, oh, let's cover his face with a hoodie. look down at least. not one. instead they were high-fiving each other, congratulating on the great work they had done. so, please, let's do the right thing here. it's not just about trying to
save your image to the community because the hearing has been called. please, review the policies. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hello supervisors. my name is balam. i'm the district 11 youth commissioner and the chairperson to the youth commish. i'm here today to remind the commander sfpd they serve us, that means if the community is saying this is what happened, you don't make that uncreditable. after the incident happened, i did everything i could to reach into contact and to speak to the parents and students who were effected by this. i believe them. i believe when they tell me the stories that they've told me and that supervisor ronen will read in a statement, i believe them. it's frustrating that sfpd paints a narrative that we did the best we could, when yes, i believe commander lazar when he says sfpd did the best they could of their ability but
that's not the case for the community. what is best for sfpd is not best for the community and they need to remember they serve us. their goal shouldn't be about finishing as fast as possible and investigating and putting things together with your goal is to ensure that the students are safe and protected, that should be your main priority going into the school. ensuring that safety is there. there is no longer an active shooter to take care of the situation. your job is not to arrest young people right away and then disrespect them and alienate them. that is what happened. police officers need to remember that they are an oppressive figure to people of color. we do not trust you. you need to build trust before you tell us the narrative to what happened. there's no trust. especially after this event and the trauma that happened many of there's definitely no trust. it's frustrating because police officers, i have a lot of respect for them but time and time again they put their own
needs before the needs of the community. it should not be the case what sort the need of community should be put first. that's what a public servant, to the community, should be doing and it is so frustrating this incident occurred and i keep hearing excuses. >> clerk: thank you. next speaker. >> hello supervisors, members of the community. my name is charlie obermire. a big part of why the youth commission came out here today is because we have heard so much, so much from our community about how horrible this experience was, how poorly handled they feel it was as a situation. we've really looked into it as a result of that. the youth commission, we're tasked with trying to hold and convey the voice of youth in san francisco to the board of
supervisors. it's rare that, really, any event leads to such a ground swell of public comment. questions and requests that we share sort of what the community is feeling and we've been doing some research looking into some numbers. we found it truly, truly concerning statistic. of the over 2,000 san francisco police officers, fewer than 30, fewer than 30, have been trained, properly trained to interact with young people. there's a module called policing the team brain. this module of training details procedures and restrictions for police officers interactions with young people. fewer than 30 officers. so, when we come here and ask why did this sort of thing happen, how could it happen? how could these officers act in such a disrespectful way to
members of our community, ignoring a very big history of oppression and mistrust, we need to be looking to the procedures. who is actually being trained. not what is the official policy. how is it being implemented. who is being trained. ultimately we need to expand that to ensure that all officers on patrol are capable of respectfully interacting with young people in san francisco. thank you. >> clerk: thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon, board and community members. my name is grace, i'm a youth representative from the youth commission. i live in district 9. i'm currently a senior at school of the arts. i'm here today, as a high school student, i saw the outrage of other teenagers in my community towards the sfpd and sfuc's actions after the balboa high school incident. to my understanding, from going
to community events and talking about this issue, pro cols were not followed and sfpd did not understand how to handle this situation. because the balboa incident was so mishandled, i urge the board to follow the youth commission's history of juvenile push confirmation and push sfpd to continue their trainings, policing the teen brain. these trainings are important to train officers on deescalation tactics and how to spot biases and how to recognize indicators of trauma and mental health issues so another incident like this does not happen at another school. thank you again for your time. >> clerk: thank you. next speaker. >> hello, board, community. my name is jo i am the vice-cha.
i am here today because, as a district 4 representative i represent many students that go to sfusd and some that go to balboa high school. they have the right to feel safe where they go to school. school should be a safe place. a nurturing environment and learning. instead at balance owe a, even with this incident, it was severely mishandled and students did not feel safe. so, the transformative justice committee has a couple of recommendations we want to present to you. we believe in youth rights. we really believe that sfpd and sfusc should up hold them. we should make sure all children know what miranda rights are, how to get a lawyer. we need them to know so if they're in a situation they can be able to defend themselves and have their rights.
also, an incident like this impacts the whole community, not just the students and administrators involved. we need to have an investment in community healing and community or entered solutions that follow-up with youth and their families. thank you for calling this hearing and having me here. just wanted to give a quick shout out to the other organizations we're working with, some of which are here right now. young women's free center. huckle berry, project what and lar kin youth services, they're all paving the way for reforms in this area. thank you to them and thank you to the board. >> clerk: thank you. next speaker. >> good evening. my name is jordan, i'm the initiative director for road map to peace. i want to thank supervisor hillary ronen for calling this very important hearing. i just wanted to share that this unfortunate situation that happened at balboa, you know,
it's extreme example of why this m.o.u. needs to be revisited and strengthened. it needs significant amount of community input from various groups and families and many of the groups the young women just spoke about earlier. because it's such an example of how a young person's rights were completely violated, privacy confidentiality, this was a young man who was very, very involved in his community. a youth leader involved in various programs, supporting and mentoring other peers, football player in his school. it was an exceptional -- is an exceptional young man and was profiled really and his rights were violated. his face was blasted everywhere. there was very specific things that could have been done to protect his privacy or him not to have been detained. yet this young person went
through that. the whole family was impacted. when you read the statement later, you will see exactly how this situation exemplifies how the protocols were not followed and how these practices need to be improved and changed. also, looking at how to also restore situations when things happen. there wasn't this work around trying to restore what the school feels are restorative practices, that was not done in this situation. instead the experiences of the youth in the family were dismissed and there wasn't that process. i just wanted to thank you for holding this hearing and hearing from the community. >> clerk: thank you, next speaker. >> hi, supervisors, thank you for holding this very important hearing. my name is tracy brown. i'm with the mission peace collaborative and also with
sciiu who have been supportive of the family and 100% behind wanting to revisit the m.o.u. the m.o.u. is only as strong as the people who implement it. i think it was well written and well thought out. i think the youth commission and the youth groups did a great job. there's an incident that happened at balboa, with the kid who is a star kid on the football team. principal knew him. prance pal knew who he was. and when he was seen on video by the police, going into the bathroom, along with other kids of different ethnicities, the only ones called out for questioning were the latino and african american students. we know there's biases, i'm bringing it up because we need to get better at this. when at the station, i was at the station, the family was not allowed to be with their children. there were other parents there as well. they didn't know what was going on. we had to call patty lee. patty lee called the station and read them what they were supposed to do and that's how
>> at coleman advocates we worked with the board of supervisors and some of the advocates in here to craft that last m.o.u. with the school district that doesn't go far enough because the police doesn't want to be police. they're out there doing their job to the best of their ability and sometimes their actions can go beyond what we think is necessary and doesn't always prioritize the young people who they're interacting with, so the idea about expanding the protections and the viability for young people
to have a lawyer thinks about great steps moving forward. i'm looking to working with others in the process to update that m.o.u., but there are some things that that m.o.u. won't be able to cover and do. that's why we need the board of supervisors to take a step and take leadership on this issue so we can make sure as youth who feel protected. as someone who grew up in san francisco, who had police harassment on me, had guns pulled on me, how do we make sure young people know their rights and are safe and aren't setup for experiences where -- incidents where they'll experience harm, injury, or incarceration? we're not setup for that, and the police need to. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> i'm here today as a
concerned citizen, and to have this topic come before you in 2018, when i as a parent in the san francisco unified school district was dealing with this very issue in 2002 and thought that it had been resolved by my activity and others and everyone on board. but to see about this and hear about it from my living room and from neighbors that the very same issues with presented here to students being questioned without family present, without an ally there, i'm beyond troubled. i got over here from a research project. i said i have to get there because it's baffling.
i didn't tell my child who was at marshall in 2002, that this was still happening because we'd done so much to make certain that it didn't happen again, and yet here we are. so yes, we need the next level of assistance because clearly, the m.o.u. is not enough. we need another body involved. please get involved, and don't let time let this fade from your memory. it is imperative that you stay connect today this so it does come through to help families and students and the residents of the san francisco community. thank you. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker. >> supervisors, community members, i am tommy craig. i'm from coleman advocates, and i would like to speak specifically in support because i am a parent, i am a part of
the community, and i know how my community was affected. i had to have meetings with parent members as well as the youth because so many of our demographic was affected. parents, youth, everybody was traumatized. there were helicopters, there were people that felt that they didn't know what was happening. the entire community got locked down. it wasn't just balboa. i mean, the whole thing was a mess. and the one thing that wasn't protected was the rights of our students. i feel for the parent that that happened to, that that child was perp walked. like, that's something that should never have happened. as a minor, they don't put your face on t.v. so i want to end that suffering for any of the family members and community, and just to let you know they're children, they're human, right? they got treated like animals. they got locked in a cage, and we need to know how to figure
out how we can support them better, how do if we want relationships with the police, how do we get them to interact, and can we investigate further so people don't feel like they stories are being heard or they're being believed. that's one of the reasons why we have issues with the police because we feel like our stories aren't believed, or see, we have a video. that's the only way we feel like we can be believed. it's horrible, but it's true. no family should have to go through this where you're innocent until you're proven guilty. i ask that we definitely revisit the m.o.u. and strengthen it so that it protects the most vulnerable. thank you. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. next speaker.
>> good evening. my name is alatiita fischer, adoptive mother of four children within sfusd, in my 13th year as a parent and within sfusd. my two youngest have learning differences and other disabilities, and i'm really emotional right now because every time something like this happens, i think holy crap, my kid is next. i'm here because of my seventh grader, damian. he's the sweetest kid you'll ever meet. he's 13. he doesn't look like a kid, he looks like an adult. he's got adhd, sensory processing disorder. when he gets overwhelmed, when he get overstimulated, he shuts down. in a situation like this, i don't even want to think about
what would have happened to him. so while we need to not only revisit this m.o.u., we need to consider all of our student populations. we have a huge amount of disproportionality of sfusd of our african american students and latinx and pacific identifies lander being put into certain situations and not given the support they need. and we need to make sure that we've got all the appropriate safeguards in place, particularly in our m.o.u. to support students who need the additional layer of support, including training for all officers who work with students including cultural sensitivity. i want to just thank you very much for holding this hearing and for starting these challenging conversations and moving us forward, so thank you. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. supervisor peskin, you had told us you would have to leave at
4:30. thank you for staying an additional half an hour. >> supervisor peskin: thank you for calling this hearing. i am absolutely available to work with supervisor ronen's office and the p.d. and sfusd and really appreciate it. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. are there any further speakers who'd like to address us during public comment? seeing none, public comment is now closed. [ gavel ]. >> supervisor mandelman: vice chair ronen. oh, excuse me. public comment is now reopened. >> clerk: next speaker, please come forward. >> hello, everyone. my name is messiah and i'm an advocate with the youth commission. i am here today because i feel as a student i understand the trauma he's going through. i feel like no student -- well,
no student, adult or child should feel scared of a police officer, where their job is to keep the public safe. but instead, situations like these are traumatizing people more and more. so i feel like what these commissioners are doing, we should tell people about their rights, so they can know what to do in situations like this. >> supervisor mandelman: thank you. >> supervisor ronen: thank you so much. >> supervisor mandelman: is there any additional speakers who would like to address us during public comment? seeing none -- here we go. >> i would like to thank you guys for having this presentation and hearing. it's very important to the community. my name is desmond jeffreys, past educator. also former teacher with san francisco unified. i'm here today speaking as an individual but also support the students and families, but also supporting san francisco police department. i know how hard it is to find that balance between safety and
security, but also making sure there's privacy and protection as well of the individual. finding that balance is important, and what i want to approach san francisco unified school district and the committee, when i was there as a teacher, we didn't have a lot of active shooter training. parents don't know the protocols, teachers don't know the protocols, students don't know the protocols. having a system of how things are going to be is going to be helpful. second, i think what needs to be taken into consideration i privacy. we need to consider and hold our children and our students to that same standard. i stand for a stable, safe, and supportive schools, and i hope you will, too. thank you.
>> supervisor mandelman: thank you, are there any further public speakers? seeing none, public comment is now closed. [ gavel ]. >> supervisor mandelman: vice chair ronen. >> supervisor ronen: thank you. first, i wanted to read the statement of the young man who i had referred to in my comments and whose parents spoke. sunday, september 2, 2018. on thursday, august 30, 2018, during passing period from homeroom to third period, i needed to use the bathroom. i tried to go to the third floor bathroom because it is on the same floor of my first-class. as i was walking down the stairs to the bathroom, i saw the kid in front of me. he went into the bathroom. i also entered the bathroom to use the stall. as i walked out of the stall, i saw the spider-man backpack with the bullet hole. i washed my hands and walked out. i saw roman and said what's up to him as i walked up