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it is where we now, and are asking now with conjunction for the overall plan for the outreach. now we are closing out the year, how many do we still have? i know we have gone beyond the call of duty to reach out to the resident but i think that we need to -- this is the last meeting for the year. we need to at least situate and have that conversation so next year we know the average. >> from the interviews that we have conducted last spring and summer, all of the household, all of the previous households have been sent a letter summarizing our understanding of all of the individuals in the household and their eligibility for transition benefits, as well as a summary of the transition benefits available to the household as a whole. and that includes, even for the
two doesn't households that did not do interviews, we have sent them a summary based on our understanding from conversations with the john stewart company, in the hopes that it will elicit feedback in case there are any discrepancies between his records and what the household believes is there situation. and then, right now, they have been part of the premarketing efforts in planning for the future market rate and below below-market rate units for sale the premarketing effort, even the households that had previously taken in lieu and left the island, are eligible for those premarketing notifications. so one of the things that they are currently engaged in is reaching out to -- based on the
last provided information, to those households that have left the island, to make sure that we have the premarketing list as accurate as possible when it comes time to engage in a premarket activity. and then for the spring ahead, one of the objectives is to engage those households that may be eligible to purchase affordable units in the first affordable inclusionary units in the first t.i. c.d. project on the island to begin the income certification process and establish eligibility. and i apologize. there was one other ongoing activity i was going to mention. >> okay. the reason i'm asking this, and thank you. every time we have a meeting, i think that we need to talk about that.
this is a high priority for this commission catholicity has gone beyond the call to make that we take care of them, even though we are not legally required to, because no one is being evicted from treasure island. so we have gone out to have extensive outreach now and knowing how things work in the city, two or three or five will show up later, and they will say that they do not know anything that is happening. so to protect the city, and to make sure that we are encouraging those residents to participate, because this will not be an open ended exercise, and by next year, we need to have -- make some decisions as we move along. so i want to keep that item here that we talk about it because i know how hard the staff, how much time you spend on this
particular item and we are going to hear about it because that is the way it is. thank you, and we will keep you posted. >> thank you. one other item. you asked how many prehouseholds we currently have, it is 203 households. >> okay. thank you. ♪ thank you. any other comments? okay. item four, please. >> item number for office communications from and received by tee ida. >> i received -- and thank you. i think for the, is that correct , and for the board, 2019 will be a decisive year that we really need to engage the safety and all the powers that be, to engage in helping us to shorten all the gaps we have in the financing of housing.
i think that now is the time to really do that. the city has a lot of projects in the pipeline and every time we speak, we talk to them. i know we are competitive with others, but i think for us in order to realize the building on the timeline that we have, i really commend sherry williams, and to let you know that this commission, i know that we received a memo from you. i wanted to make that publicly known that we are going to be gung ho on that, if i can use that language. it is high priority. we need to make something happen we have a new supervisor who is coming and we are going to engage him to make sure that it is one of his priorities, at all the other stakeholders. thank you for that memo and for your leadership. >> thank you.
>> i had a question about the communication about the construction noise. i guess there's a residence that has been claiming or she is reporting that there has been after hours construction and i just wanted to ask for the clarification on the construction hours may be. >> during the woodframe installation, they were working two shifts within zone one to work a day shift and second shift. so the correspondence and plied the work was starting before 7:00 am and it hasn't been starting before but has been going until 11:00 pm. and the primary adjacent property is the job corps property and we have been coordinating with them on noise moment --dash monitoring of the property line. >> is there a permitted process for that type of work, or it
just after hours i assume d.b.i. or some permitting agency would review it for noise ordinance compliance. >> through the bureau of streets and mapping. >> okay. so is fully within what was permissible, it sounds like. >> yeah. we had run it through d.p.w. >> and then do we post anywhere publicly for the residents about warnings about unusual construction hours, may be perhaps on our website, or in building one, to be post a notice like -- to let residents know, may be during these days we may have some very late construction? >> if we have activities that are within the residential neighborhood, we routinely do that, and things that are affecting access, but i think within the zone, i think we have discussed that the on island community meetings, but i don't think we sent out a specific notice on it. but that is something that we can incorporate into the
construction information that we keep updated on our website as well. >> that sounds like a good idea. thank you. >> i would just like to follow up on that. i think it would be very important, and just to ask a little further, even though the noise is above a certain level, but they are not next to you or the work -- where the work is being done, it doesn't count, or it is not -- i guess not a problem for us? but certainly for the residents. >> the noise is measured at the city's regulation. it is noise relative to ambient at the property line. so when you look at the large area of the sub phase one word that would train installation was ongoing, when that work is
deep within the area, the property line is quite far from it. at the property line is where we are taking the noise measurements. i don't believe there's been a general problem with noise related to the wood drain installation spec compared to the vibratory compaction, is a relatively lowered noise operation. vibratory compaction generates more of ground movement as well as noise. >> i see. is this project over now? >> the woodframe installation north of california has completed. right now the woodframe installation is temporarily demobilized, and they want to start the work around building one, and one that works starts back up, we will -- they will
assess whether to do it on a single shift or double shift. >> would it be unreasonable to ask that somebody from the staff replied to her letter? >> we are preparing a response. >> thank you. >> thank you. next item. ongoing business by the board of directors. >> yes. i would like to -- before i even speak, i would like to identify mr will. if you could stand up so people can see you. it is nice to see you, sir,. he is the executive director of our community developing partner and it was such an honor that he was part of the tour with us.
with the arts commission, and c.m.g., and others. i want to stay here for the commissioners, that i really regret that some of you were only allowed -- only two commissioners were allowed to go i want to say again to the city. it would have been appropriate to have the mayor mayor, some board of supervisors, and follow us on that treat. kudos to commissioners and everybody. one commissioners not only a harvard graduate, but she's one of them for most development entities in this country. she worked very hard for months putting together what was a wonderful itinerary that everybody will be envious of. we saw the key stakeholders developing -- responsible for developing new york, but also signature projects in the country, in the world.
professors from cornell university, we had the opportunity to see them. landscape architects, we visited the governor's islands. we saw first-class models on landscape architecture. and the brooklyn park is 163 acres. we are going to be developing 322 or more parks on treasure island. so the park -- what i would like to have on the, is that correct, , we will delve into more. i would like to have these on the island and i would like to suggest, now that we have done this, i would like to suggest everyone that you cannot develop first-class projects like treasure island, and given the background of the commissioners here from development, we all
have planning and real estate, it is time to send them out so they can see signature projects. we will push for that period this is just the beginning so that treasure island, when we are done, is a signature project for the world. that is basically what this project is. we are not thinking outside the box. i just want to give that preamble, and to commend the commissioner for delivering and putting together a world-class itinerary that really blew everybody's mind. i've never seen anything like that. kudos to her. we will be doing more. to you also, to staff, working with that, we had many others from the arts commission. again, it was first-class. i will be pushing for more of those for the rest of the commissioners.
>> will be providing an update on the visit as well as planning for park operations at the january meeting. >> thank you. >> i am happy to hear that you had a fruitful trip to new york, and i was very sorry that we could not go as well. we were all looking forward to learning new things. may i suggest, for the future visits, that maybe not even going all the way to new york. there are some bay area projects east bay, alameda, the sacramento area, may be we could do some more noticing, and have day trips, and have them be in a publicly noticed meeting where we can go and learn and try to avoid that. i know we had a situation in new york and we couldn't all be there.
so if we look at other bay area military projects where we could learn from them, and just have it be doable and have it be more accessible financially and timewise for the members of this board on the public. >> that is great. let me comment there. that is a wonderful discussion. the thing is, with the projects in new york, they are signature projects too. the commissioners should also have an opportunity to see those because they are in the forefront of the cutting edge of park design in the world, and some of the landscape -- and some of the best landscape architects. we can get opportunities to look at it and also be able to look at where it is going. that is a good suggestion. >> thank you. that's great if we have future opportunities to venture out and
learn from other case studies, but we actually have an opportunity coming to san francisco in 2019. bob, i mentioned this to you before. the american planning association has national conferences every year, and in 2019, it will be in san francisco. i would love to encourage us an timma to put together a proposal they are calling for proposals right now. you just open today, until january 4th. i think it would be a great opportunity for us to open a panel around transportation issues, or alternate transferred -- modes of transportation discussions. perhaps inviting our colleagues from new york, or other places where we know we can learn lessons from, and tried to bring the conversation to san francisco. thanks. >> thank you. i just have one quick comment, and i guess it is a big enough issue that it should be brought to the attention of the board
board and the staff. it looks as if some shipper dumped a lot of junk, i guess it is wood or cardboard or some sort of stuff, but it is kind of massive, and it's been dumped near the boat dock that is on the northeast side of the island , and i think that it really calls for an investigation and someone is looking into it and there's also dead wild life. it just seems to be a dump. not an accident. >> for audience members who may be at home and may be business members are residents on the island, if you see dumping, whether it is anywhere on the
island, or problems like that, call into 311, we will make sure they get addressed by us or public works, or appropriate agencies. >> okay. thank you. any response to the ongoing business? >> in this particular case, i am not aware of that, but we will make sure to have staff out there and get it cleaned up. >> okay. thank you. so let's -- that's item six -- item six, please. >> agent number 6 is consent agenda. approving the minutes of november 14th, 2018 meeting. >> second. >> okay. all in favor? aye. >> it is past. >> item number 7 is a proposed transit pass pull policy and affordability program.
>> good afternoon. i am rachel hiatt from timma. we have an update for you from the results on the committee meeting of the board at the end of november, and then the board meeting yesterday that took place. i have to share with you the information that we shared with them, and then some of their direction coming out of that meeting. the short story as they continued the item. will be doing more analysis, more outreach on the topics that i will describe today pick some of the things that in presenting to the board, end and hearing feedback from the cab and others , that we find useful to remind viewers is that in the case of treasure island, there are differences between treasure island and other san francisco
redevelopment areas are the need for the regional transit. part of the core transportation plan includes this regional transit ferry, a.c. transit, not just the munimobile services, which is what development on the mainland gets. it is not benefiting from this regional transit as well. also, on the demand management side or the traffic management side, the congestion tollhouse those two functions. we do have -- both of those key performance measures on the demand management side and on the revenue side. we shared the projections of trip making on and off the island with the board to kind of help illustrate the magnitude of change that we are expecting,
and this is a projection of travel demand under the recommendations that we put forward. and so that 50% transit mode share, we are just barely meeting it under those proposals it is going to be something that the boards will need to continue to watch and will continue to report to you on our success in meeting those performance measures as the system faces in and as growth happens. another thing that we found useful to remind folks is the rationale from the california state legislature when they adopted -- or authorize the program in 2008 and the unique situation of treasure island being off the san francisco oakland bay bridge. that makes it, and the need for traffic management and transportation serving the island is different from the mainland because the only way to get to the islands, unlike other
neighborhoods in san francisco is that there is only this one vehicular access point on and off the bridge. we do describe our timing, and it is phase -- it is aligned to launch the program in late 2021 when we project that the first new homes will be available for occupancy. we do often get, and did receive questions about how certain we are about that timeframe and the certainty that we will need to launch the program and that is when the new housing will be in. but that is a schedule we are working towards. and we also do remind folks in response to questions of the developer's contribution, infrastructure developer is putting in as the subsidy that they will need to provide in the early years of the program, and that the program does depend on in those early years.
so he recommended total hours of operation, toll rates, and affordability programs and transit pass, and the board did continue the item. we did find that it was useful to remind, and the commissioner can point this out, as having not only remembering the munimobile service is separate from this program. the service will be funded and the expansion of munimobile service will be funded the weight is funded elsewhere in san francisco through increases in the general fund and the nta budget, and also we did hear a lot of feedback that even so, we really need to work with m.t.a. to make sure that the increase in service happens and that the improvements in service that are called for our really realized. we need to to keep doing outreach. that was one of the feedbacks from the committee, and also from the cab as well.
going forward, and as well as looking at other alternatives, we will be coming back more regularly with reports to you and the other bodies on that. these are the themes of what we heard so far during outreach that we will need to continue to address. business affordability, especially more work around business affordability, and provisions for business support, as well as other alternatives for residents with affordability being the main concern. then continued fundraising. it is feedback that you have continuously given us. we are working now on grant applications. we submitted a request to the bay area toll authority for ferry funding, just this past month, and we also are currently working with the mercy housing and tid a staff on a cabin and
trade application for both housing and transportation. we presented to the committee two options for supporting -- for addressing the concerns we heard and supporting affordability. when the committee met on the 27 th, they recommended we do both, and by both, i mean a statement approach. stipend per household that could be used to offset transportation expenses, as well as reducing the midday toll rate 20 -- two -- two -- as per the committee's recommendation, each household would receive a his cash stipend they could use to offset transportation expenses. as i mentioned, at the board meeting yesterday, the board did continue the item and to not -- did not take action on that. some other things that we had also included in that recommendation that were changed from the previous proposal
include reducing the threshold of transit trips needed to earn additional toll credits. we had also change the weekend hours to better capture visitor trips, et cetera. these items are also continued to a future hearing. this was the toll rate schedule that we presented. it included the discount for drivers coming from the east bay , going to treasure island who were crossing the bay bridge this graphic illustrates what we had intended or envisioned with the stipend, and for businesses, we hadn't proposed a dollar amount, technology we would have needed to do -- still need to do more work with businesses, but hadn't done enough work at that time to have a level. the intent was it would be a flexible resource that businesses could use to offset employee costs or customer costs , or delivery costs.
and this is what the stipend would afford. so it would equate to, for a household, multiple on and off trips. two on off trips per weekday, for folks and in below-market rate units, you could also afford transit passes with that because they would be offered at a 50% discount for folks in below-market rate units. there is a resource proposal requirement associated with that of about $4 million per year for the first five years. that is, and by the scenario, i mean the one the committee recommended including the zero midday toll, and the stipend approach. we will continue to do financial analyses on additional areas per the feedback we heard over the last few meetings. the transit pass was something we also have been presented, or
presented our recommendations for discounts for the past for residents of below-market rate housing housing, and also for employees of bulk discount on the pass for employees. this would be unlimited access to the munimobile system, to the a.c. transit system, and to the ferry on and off pick we were quite -- the request that the committee made for us to look at , as far as a transit pass goes, includes looking at an accumulator design for the past. what that means is that you would avoid the need for people to need to pay upfront to the entire cost of the past upfront. but rather would pay-as-you-go, only up to the discounted cost of the past. it is more affordable that way. the committee also asked us to look into discounts for low-income youth on the ferry, or free access for low-income youth on the ferry. so i will hands the presentation
over to mr cordova. >> great. thank you. i am the deputy director for capital projects for the san francisco transportation authority. it is good to be here again to update you on where we stand related to the timma program. i wanted to start -- i i should view this chart, but to emphasize again, we had been successful in getting over $200 million of federal estate money to improve the ramp's infrastructure and the bridges on the west that are seismic deficient. we continued it and we will move forward with a lot more funding requests and i will talk about that a little later. this light depicts all the other improvements that the development team is working on, and in combination, it totals approximately half a billion dollars pick we got a lot of questions about the cost and the revenue, and the snapshot from our committee, and our board. the slide depicts what the costs are after the 21 or 22 year
timeframe where we have approximately 500 units. it shows the ferry a.c. transit and shuttle cost, as well as the revenues that are also generated as a result of those. it shows the affordability program now that rachel outlined , which includes a $300 a month stipend, as well as a zero toll, and then some operation and maintenance for the tolling infrastructure itself. and the point of the slide is to show that it is to be able to work towards an affordability program, and to have all the transit that we have assumed here right now, in terms of the first initial year, there is definitely a problem that we have to solve from a cash flow, but if you get to a point where -- and really the point of the second slide is to show that it's really about a critical mass of units and development, and critical mass of folks on the islands. [please stand by]
pointing toward actually constructing the tolling system. getting to a point of transit vehicle purchase. as you know, the developer is obligated to go ahead and provide funds for certain purchases, so we want -- we're going to continue and work toward that here in the near term. the on-island shuttle is something, too, i can give you a separate update here next quarter, related to the on-island shuttle plan and the pilot program. ferry service, we've had discussions in terms of how we can implement ferries sooner than later. and talking to the development team also, because we have to make sure that we don't overburden on the cost side, so that we can keep it something like we talked about. something where we have at least the vision right now is smaller boats in the 75-77 passenger range. moving back and forth across the street to san francisco and the
ferry building. this gives you an overall schedule as it relates to implementation intentions. we'll continue to move forward with everything we need to implement the various aspects of transit. now we talked to you here the last couple of months. if anything, what we've learned here, we need to be even more -- what is the right term? just more aggressive in terms of outreach and making sure that we hear everything and have more meetings with the public, have more meetings with you moving forward. it's that time now given the fact that the development is really kicking off now as we can see out there when we're out there, because it is definitely an island under construction. we went to our board yesterday. you can check the tapes, it was a long discussion. a lot of folks weighed in in terms of their opinion. we understand it. we're sensitive to that. and we're committed to making
this work, so that it works, so we can deliver the transit service to the extent possible with the funds we have. and understanding that there are concerns with the burden in terms of additional transportation cost. the item was continued as rachel indicated. we look forward to working with matt haney. and with this board here and the current board, the transportation authority board. a couple of things that were brought to our attention as part of the committee meeting, and discussed yesterday. these were items that our committee said, hey, we want you to follow up on. all of them are listed here. and we ill will do that. we will explore these additional affordable program issues and i want to note that resolution urging the city to contribute funding here, is something we're working with in that regard.
so that concludes our presentation. we're available for any questions. >> president tsen: first, i'd like to hear from the public, if there is any questions on this item. >> good afternoon. i'm sherry with one treasure island. i just wanted to say that one treasure island, we're committed to being a partner and making this less painful for folks. but one of the things that we've worked on and have discussed with rachel over the last few years is our providing a supplemental van service that could potentially help folks go to grocery stores or appointments in the city and so forth. and we're committed to looking at that. it is a little easier to get funding for a vehicle. it's the ongoing operation
funding that is a little harder. we put in, i think two different applications at this point. in the last 2-3 years. but we're committed to it. and i just wanted to put that out there as one other element of this overall effort. so thank you. >> president tsen: thank you. anyone else? okay. commissioners -- director lai? >> director lai: a couple of questions. on your treasure island on-off trip averages slide. i think it's slide 4. is this -- are theprojections bd on the number 1 and two combined incentives? >> you're talking about this slide right here? >> director lai: right.
talking about how we get to the 50% mode shift. >> yes, they are. using elasticity. we have tools we use to forecast the demand. the primary and most sophisticated tool is a travel demand forecasting model that takes more resources to do. for it to do more quick estimates and sensitivity tests, we use elasticity in our financial model and that's what this is from. it's from sort of the more sketch level tool. >> director lai: are these from existing cta, i guess, numbers, or have they been adjusted for 2020, 2021, travel patterns? because i guess, in the last five years, even we're seeing so much travel pattern changes in terms of transportation planning. >> yeah, no, it's a great question and actually, the tool
that really can do that for us is the travel demand forecasting model. and actually there have been a lot of changes in our travel demand forecasting team is collecting new data now on the ride hails and how those have effected. and they're working on incorporating that into the travel demand forecast model, but it's not fully there yet. we're collecting data on that to put that in. so that's a reason we need to keep continually updating that model as the major changes happen. this includes some projections of that, but i think it's been such a fast amount of change, we're working now to even improve our ability to forecast that. >> director lai: i think that would be really important, because if i remember correctly, they released your study on ride-hail and it doesn't look positive.
>> correct. >> director lai: and just wondering whether or not the forecast includes this possible bike lane, super exciting idea, that i think is late on the agenda, but it seems like it could happen. >> yeah, so these forecasts don't include that, because it's not a committed certain project yet. but we can test alternatives in which it would be present and see the effect. >> director lai: i think that would be great, particularly because we're in a position to try to chase funding for it. if it proves having the westbound bike lane, it would help with alleviating the pressure on the mode shift and we would have a better chance. >> yeah sure. >> if you don't mind, i'd like to add -- you're talking about the west bend bike path. they've done preliminary engineering on. we've had meetings with the toll authority about how to sooner than later actually go ahead and
construct that link here on ybi. so those types of discussions. we're very excited about the opportunity to bring -- to have bikes from the bay come to the island and down to the ferry terminal. those are the kinds of discussions we've had with the toll authority, with bob in particular. i think there is synergy to be had there. >> director lai: absolutely agree with that. again, having that travel pattern data would perhaps help us justify for the funding for it. >> right. >> director lai: and then next set of questions about slide 21, where you were showing us the cost revenue of our whole system here. again, is this already accounting for option -- combined option 1 and 2 subsidies? >> yes, it is. >> director lai: and then wondering about the blue bar in the revenue side for the toll. is that in year 2027, is the
toll there showing like the roadway capacity? like we're at capacity 100%? so in terms of generating this amount of revenue, what is the level of service? i guess that's not a term anymore, but in terms of, is there still capacity left for cars to be moving? or are we in like gridlock conditions at this point? >> good question. i have to follow up on that in terms of level of service and what kind of congestion there might be on the island at that time. that is your question, correct? >> director lai: yes, i guess i'm wondering in terms of health of the roadways. that is from a resident's perspective. >> no, it's a very good question and in fact i think we need to discuss not only if we didn't have a toll what it would look like without a toll versus with a toll. because that's really -- the mode shift is what we're talking about here. to approach that and meet that
50% which we believe is -- which frankly is mandated, but we know that if we don't reach that, it turns out to be 70% vehicular traffic, it will be extremely difficult to get on and off the island. that's why we developed the program. >> director lai: and part of me, i'm sure your data smarter than that, but i'm wondering whether or not we're overestimating the amount of toll we potentially in abstract ways could collect, because if the cars aren't moving, you're not collecting the toll. some realism in that number. and then in the financial plan i heard you mention that you need commitments from wita. i thought we were in the discussion that we were going to see if there were alternatives? is that still happening in?
>> that definitely still is. we're talking to everybody. not just public, but private. we've had discussions with private operators. i wanted to mention the discussions with we'da, because we put in a ipr are arm 3 to get funding if we could, so we're trying all avenues. frankly, we've been reaching out to golden gate bridge district. so nothing is off the table. >> director lai: i heard loud and clear there needs to be more outreach. i didn't really see an outreach schedule moving forward. do you have anticipated plans for that? what the time line might be? >> i want to come back and advise you. i want to sit down with the public outreach team to look at when we can have meetings, but i
would anticipate a meeting in the next 2-3 months so we can continue the discussion. >> director lai: i think as we saw at the last on-island meeting, there is a high amount of interest from the businesses, the residents that are currently on the island, but i would just like to encourage us to also reach out to all potential future cohorts who might be impacted by these decisions, because this is a bay area issue. the toll is not just a san francisco issue. if there are known groups we should reach out to, please do so. >> okay. >> director richardson: thank you very much. i attended the timma meeting and i actually spoke. it doesn't do justice looking at
your report on outreach. and it only indicated recent. i would like to see, because i know that you spent now how many years coming here and you've gone to the residents on the island. i think when you come back, i would like to give you an assignment. i think you should include all the outreach you have done. people are asking and even the supervisors, people would appreciate all the hard work that you've done. because you not only coming before tida, you're infrastructure transportation committee and i know you've been on the island for several occasions. and we know you're engaging with the timma, the board of supervisors. so now is the time to demonstrate where would have been. it's no not the recent. even though it's asking you questions how aggressive you're
going to be, we have seen the comprehensive report of the outreach, then we will have confidence in you, that based on how you've gotten there, that you're going to be able to reach that. i would like to see that. i also think that history is very important. and this is the time to actually address the fundamental issues here. one is that every time you speak, you need to allude to the fact that in 2008, loud and clear, that state legislature created this toll. and that timma was created as part of that. our state legislature brought about this toll because treasure island is not unlike any -- like any other san francisco neighborhood. and you hear that all the time, from residents, from supervisors and us here. people talking about why treasure island.
we need to educate the public that treasure island is a part of san francisco, but the only one accessible, that is surrounded water, an island. right? and also is the one heavily impacted by the breach, which is a meltdown. you cannot come here, even with subsidized toll or whatever, you're not going to make it to the island right now, so let's be realistic about that. i think that kind of education, the preamble, that everyone must be in line today, the san francisco "examiner" and the media are taking up the issues here. and they're just reporting what on their standpoint. but we need to pull everybody back so they understand the comprehensive messages here that we are trying to do. that you, san francisco transportation, were the one, the legislature in the city of
san francisco has designated. and you've gone beyond the call of duty to make sense of this toll. we're trying to make sense of this. we also need authority that all of us here, have expressed concerns and again we wanted to make sure they are addressing the fact. we understand what the legislature says and we have to comply with those -- the legislature unless they change everything. we don't have that power. but the power that we do have is to help the public understand what is going on here to conduct hearings. to hear. and we've done that. the constituents that i'm most concerned about are the seniors, the disabled and the low-income. so even after the subsidy for five years, then what?
we hear members from the commission, we know that amtrak is subsidized. and just about ever mass transportation. and the fact that you are one of the fine agencies that know how to get grants. i specifically want further discussion on the alternate funding mechanisms that you mentioned. that we really wanted to see that. that is going to be very important. because then as we carry along this discussion, we can be telling people what else we're doing. that we have all these other areas that we're talking about. one of the discussions that came out from the board of supervisor timma hearing was the mentioning about the mtc. i would like the mtc and all the agencies to come on board and put out their stance on this.
we're talking about region transportation. this is it. and for decades we have, that we're going to integrate, but we still have muni doing its own thing and transit and then we now have we'da and all of that. this is a great opportunity, because treasure island is reflective of the regional transportation, because we have all the players aboard. you have sfta, which is beyond san francisco county. you have mtc. and if you look at the propositions, transportation for the region that we have, we're supposed to benefit from that, right? we all voted for that. and now is the time to really be thinking about how can we integrate the region? and one of the discussions we've had, is why can we have this
here where people choose to take ferry on their way to oakland. stop at treasure island, okay? drop them there. or they continue and we have the ferries. this is where we are right now. if san francisco treasure island is that place in the middle of the bay, it can go everywhere. we need to talk to them and get them on board. what it is, the collaboration we can have to offload the traffic. because we already have ferry going to the north bay, right? and weda i suggest we need to bring to this commission, so they can tell us about their overall plan, because we know even within san francisco the shipyard is going to have ferry. we know that mission bay is slated around pier 70 also. why can we all now be talking about the regional transportation and see what kind
of tradeup here or collaboration we can have? to mitigate what we have. i'm highly interested in that. and i hear the commission here saying they're interested in that. the board of supervisors are highly interested in that. they can definitely take the leadership for the region in helping mtc and all the other agencies come up with the truly regional transportation. so this is the suggestions i have. but again, everybody read in the "examiner" today, and we should help the media outreach. reach out to them so they understand what it is we're doing here. it is not always good at a point when residents concerned are, that we hear about this. education on their part, so they
can help us to convey what it is we're doing here. and then we need to think about our own public relations also. i think we should be educating the residents, educating the public. i think we should be, so that we carry everybody along. i think this is what we're going to be doing in 2019. i want to commend the efforts that you, rachel, eric and the executive director, for your leadership, as a fine agency. this is yours to deliver, but we all are working alongside with you here. and we're going to be working with the board of supervisors because they have a responsibility to make sure that there is accessible mode of transportation to treasure island. that's their mandate and we'll do our best here to help them make the right decisions. thank you.
>> director samaha: thank you. good work. i know this is a very complicated issue and has a lot of different facets to it and a lot of different people, their needs, need to be met. affordability, there is the businesses, a lot of different people. one thing that came to mind for me, and i realize that treasure island is also a destination for a lot of day activities, such as sports, games. a lot of athletic fields host games such as rugby, daily football, a lot of different types of activities where children are involved. and they're residents of the city, probably even from the region. and it just struck me as it would be perhaps onerous for somebody going to a ball game, their kids are playing in the ball game, to have to pay tolls
to get on the island. i don't know if that's been discussed or considered, but it has come to mind. i thought i would put it out there as an issue because it's a fairness issue. and certainly it would be onerous on that community perhaps. so -- >> we had heard that comment before, so appreciate you reinforcing that. and also, commissioner richardson, appreciate everything you just stated in that regard. i do have one request frankly, that it is going to take us working together, because i think there is -- i think there are opportunities here for us to improve the messaging. you made very good statements there. so we can work together toward understanding, you know, and educating the public as a whole related to the development project, some of that history. i think some of the folks didn't
really understand it. and so we want to get better at messaging that. and then moving forward here how we can move together. because the two are intertwined. the development is intertwined with the transportation system. so anything that we can do together in that regard, i look forward to that. and 2019 will be a very busy year in that regard. so look forward to working with this board. i appreciate your support. >> thank you, sir. >> thank you. you sort of mentioned it earlier, but years back, they used to have the jitnys in san francisco and something like that could be possible. could pay a $1 and they'd take you on their route. their steady route. i think that would be something to possibly look into. and then just another comment. i live on the island. and many of the neighbors, it's
not like just a couple. it's a couple and their two children, or because people have been there so long, it might be a couple and their grown children. a neighbor in particular. she works, the husband works, the older child works and the younger child goes to a private school. that is like four people times what is going to be the toll. possibly. so just want to keep that in mind. i'm sure you've got the records on what the families look like on the island. and just keep in mind, you know, that just don't travel together in little packs. >> understood. we did hear yesterday in the public record concerns with parent taking their children to and from school.
that was part of the equation we tried to putting to for the stipend, $300 a month, in calculation, that it would take two round trips. i hear you loud and clear on the jitnys, i remember riding those as a kid. that kind of type of transportation is something that is not off the table. something we need to look at here. my thoughts in terms of the shuttle system. we'll explore that. >> thank you very much. okay. item 8. >> item 8, san francisco oakland bay bridge west span bike path planning. >> november 19, they provided a public update on the status of the planning. and invited peter to provide
>> it has been studied a number of times since the two thousands on the bike, and at this current iteration, our board asked us to roll back and look at any fatal flaws to the concept, as well as to refine some engineering and refine some of the cost estimates so we can make a more informed decision when the time came. we have been working diligently over the last several years, looking more into the technical aspects of the bridge, how we would makys