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the corridor, how many people might want to ride? reran an unconstrained model of frequencies of service in the corridor against those future land uses to see how many people might want to ride if we had that service, and what we found is in the corridor, bart like service yields part like ridership. with high-frequency fast services out in 2014, we projected the corridor could produce as many as 240,000 trips per day and that is compared to the 60 or so thousand that we carry currently. a huge increase in train service , a huge increase in riders, but on a mile per mile basis, it is similar to what the bar sit -- bart system does today. to do that, and to really analyse what is possible, we have been working on, over the last few months, and we have been working closely with the city of san francisco staff, we have been developing a few different options of what growth could look like in the corridor so we have developed one version of growth that we call the
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baseline growth that really is reflective of the planning that has been done into the corridor today, planning for electrification, planning for blending with high-speed rail, planning for the extension of service to the salesforce transit center, and then we've also developed a couple of alternative visions that look to push the envelope further and analyse the question of if we wanted to grow rail service more , what could that look like? so this is somewhat in reverse order here, but the baseline scenario contemplates a peak hour service that would include up to ten total trains per hour per direction on the corridor, and that is consistent with fast planning. for high-speed rail trains and six caltrain trains, they'll be operating in a general skipped stop pattern. this is intended to reflect the planning that has been going on in the corridor to date. then we developed a moderate scenario that looks at, what if we actually had eight caltrain trains per hour per direction
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along with the high-speed rail trains, and we have a service pattern that we like pretty well that includes a 15 minute express train and a 15 minute local train, and finally, we wanted to push the envelope and look at what would it take if we wanted to have 16 trains total, so 12 caltrain his where we have two different 15 minute express trains as well as a 15 minute local train. all of these different kinds of services require different levels of infrastructure investment. in the case of the hydra scenario, there's quite a bit of for track investment in the corridor required, less in the moderate. it is more select and even less in the baseline scenario. one thing that is important to note is as we present this work up and down the corridor, there is a major need for investment in grade separations in the caltrain corridor. it has many at grade across trains. if we think about higher levels
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of train service, this is part of the conversation, how we will deal with the act grade crossings over time. >> san mateo county has 42 alone >> forty-two in the corridor. between san jose and san francisco. in the corridor to the south of san jose, there are another 30. >> we have developed these different service options, and ultimately during the late spring and summer, we'll return to the board and asked them to choose one of them. one of them is being the indicative long-range vision for the system. the work we are doing right now, to support that choice is developing business cases around each of these pick really articulating in detail the kind of infrastructure and investments that would be required, looking at the kinds of ridership and environmental and mobility benefits at each of these options produces and developing a copy has a picture of what it would mean to choose
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any one of these as a long-range vision for the system that working analysis is part of the vision now and will be part of the package that goes to the board we do have a dedicated website for this project. there's a lot of technical detail for folks who are interested. we have also been doing a lot of stakeholder outreach as part of this project. we have robust engagement with partner agency staff, with cities and counties up and down the corridor, and as well as stakeholder groups, community meetings and online presence and it will be continuing to do that as a go forward with the project just a few numbers, direct -- categorizing the outreach that has been done to date, and then that is where we are in the process. i'm happy to take any questions. >> thank you very much for that presentation. i don't know if there are questions from commissioners. i have a few questions.
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this is not news to anybody, but you mentioned organizational dynamics and the issue of governance, but you didn't speak about it in any depth. can you elaborate on that a little bit? >> sure. i will describe what we are doing, and then if you would like to add more. as i mentioned, we have partnered with stanford university to help with this and they have contracted with our permit. it is a former president of metro-north, the largest commuter railroad in the united states. as part of his work, he has undertaken an initial assessment where he has interviewed staff at the current caltrain organization as well as staff and board members from our partner agencies. he is working with the stanford local project centres to conduct a comparative review of other commuter railroads in the u.s. as well as international rail properties, and then he is working to develop an initial set of recommendations that
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would focus on a number of areas including service delivery options, so how the services contracted and delivered, how we deliver capital projects, governance options, which would include things like board processes and procedures and long-term governance options which would look at big macro picture governance changes, and organizational issues, looking at capacity and skills and scaling. so he is working to develop those memos now and they are likely to be ready to move forward. >> thank you, sebastian. jim, do you want to add anything to that, his abstract -- subtract? >> no, i think it is a comprehensive review and we are looking forward to it. >> i'm going to call my executive director. colleagues, if i can get your undivided attention for one second. this railroad is profoundly important to the future of this peninsula. it is a rather extraordinary
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resource. it delivers the same amount of people almost in both directions it is truly, to my mind, the future of smart growth in three counties. i want this to work, and all three counties have their own particular needs. in our case, our need is a very clear, and has been spoken to, which is we built a transport terminal that has a huge box in the bottom of it and no train. so our imperative, if we can get it right, is the downtown extension. we have one grade separation. the other two counties have 42 grade separations. santa clara county has its own desires to have an intermodal terminal as well. all of this costs a huge amount of money. getting it right -- i say respectfully, jim, it has been a
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sleepy little railroad, it is really what all three of our counties and commissioner walton in his incarnation as a member of the joint powers board, have to figure out. as we all know, and i be totally honest, the next item on the agenda, we have our own governance issues as relates to the commission that mr. haney serves on, and that is the chance of a joint powers authority. we all know, and we about to hear about the steel girders that we spent over a billion dollars, and that thing is not open. it has become the source of national embarrassment. i have been very clear that i don't think the tee jpa is well-suited to deliver the downtown extension. maybe caltrain is if it had some fundamental changes to its government system. so i want to throw those things out. i think 2019 is actually the
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year that we might be able to accomplish that and to actually create an organization that is capable of delivering multibillion dollar public transportation improvements. with that, i'll hand it over to our executive director. >> thank you so much. i appreciate your putting the importance of caltrain in this corridor out there and in context. i want to appreciate director hartnett and his team for all the work and for really keeping these megaprojects on track, excuse the pun, that is no small feat. we appreciate we have been able to be at your side to help troubleshoot where needed and support your efforts. i think the business plan and all that oversight, by the way, as part of the funding protocol that was negotiated and agreed as a condition of the funding that the county and other counties put in and is working very well. i want to thank you all for that on the business plan side, s.
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guess -- just echoing chair peskin's comments, entire region is involved. the state is involved, of course, and i appreciated, jim, your statement about the high-speed rail and blended service plan trying to move forward with the investment, and in fact, their commitment to d.t. x. is also secured, notwithstanding the back and forth from the federal government right now. our understanding that that investment is still secured in the near term and will continue to make sure that the future of high-speed rail is established through the environmental work and as well as the future funding that we all need to bring to the table on that project. i wanted to note that we do anticipate our capital contributions to caltrain will run out. this is something we are aware of. we want to work on it together locally with all of you and i were partners in the city. we provide on an annual basis
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our share of capital to caltrain for maintenance and m.t.a. provides the operating share. all three counties do this on an annual basis, and we want to get that on a more firm footing going forward locally as well as regionally. there is a potential for a sales tax to go on the ballot next year that senator jury hill passed last year. this business plan does set the potential for a roadmap for that investment across the entire caltrain district. not only locally, but regionally we eventually want to put caltrain on a more dedicated funding plan basis so we can stand strategically into the long term. i just wanted to make those comments. thank you. >> thank you. by the way, just so we are all clear, there is a real partnership between these three counties and there was no better expression of that than when the trump administration had second thoughts about giving $6,747,000,000 to the
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electrification project, and every supervisor and every mayor up and down the corridor are made that happen, so it is now happening and in light of that, it is on-time and and on budget. we all have a lot of work to do to make this thing for the 21 st century, i think first and foremost, is how we figure out a new government structure, or the j.b.p. i don't come to that with any preset conclusions. i think we just need to have an honest, candid conversation to make it be the best railroad that it can be and to get us what we need, which is downtown extension. with that, mr. hartnett, anything you want to add? >> i want to thank you for the opportunity to be here to express appreciation for your wonderful executive director and her team. we really appreciate working with her and in particular, in all our partners in the region and we appreciate your support
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and the other commissioners support for our federal funding, as you have described. it was a very good team effort. we are looking forward to the results of the business plan and i always quote you from a conversation that when that plan is done, we have to socialize it , and i quote you all the time on that, i hope you don't mind, because i think it is really important that the results that it be distributed and that we have a great open and a candid conversation about it. >> thank you, jim. commissioner walton is going to be the second san francisco supervisor who goes and visits you in redwood city. [laughter] >> we very much appreciate having met and spoken with him and his impending membership on the joint powers board, and i look forward to working with him >> thank you. is there any public comment on this item?
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thank you for your e-mails of last week. >> thank you, supervisors. this is indeed what i want to talk to about. before i do, i wanted to set the record straight. the contract was awarded in october 2011. it was not awarded to the company that already have a contract for 20,000 miles. it also happened to be the lowest bidder. it was awarded to another company. along the board in 2013,. [indiscernible] but the board eventually agreed to award to the contract to the original lowest bidder and here is the situation here, and hopefully we will be okay in 2020.
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where am i going with this? we had the exact same situation with the procurement of the rates, and that was a subject. it was a letter wrote to m.p.c. in 2016. it says there's absolutely no way that they can handle caltrain's current capacity, let alone 2021, let alone a quarter of a million passengers in 2040. the entire timeline was there back in 2012. capacity analyst say we need -- and then the bathroom disappeared and there was a big kerfuffle. now we are going to get rid of the bathrooms on board. i'm not talking about a quarter of a billion dollars. we are potentially talking about $7 million. you will be getting more communications from me starting next week because the matter is going to the caltrain c.a.c.,
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and i am going to resubmit a proposal for a train from a manufacturer that can actually do what caltrain needs to do. thank you. >> thank you for your active engagement and oversight. mr. peterson? >> thank you very much. my name is christopher peterson. thank you, tear peskin, it is a pleasure to see you in a different capacity. i would like to start off saying that i find the prospect of caltrain landing at bart as an exciting and important prospect. one additional long-term issue i think it is important for caltrain to consider is a prospect a potential potential second rail crossing beneath the bay. certainly there is a lot of eliminated discussion about whether that should be only bart or bart plus traditional rail or some other combination, but certainly the potential of having a real length from
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caltrain to amtrak and the east bay. it could be all a very significant long-term business consideration for caltrain. thank you. >> thank you. just by way of disclosure, has earlier comment was that mr. peterson was the general counsel of the coastal commission and is now enjoying his retirement and transportation activism. congratulations on surviving the coastal commission for a generation. >> thank you. >> is there any additional comments on item number 10? seeing none, public comment is closed. we look forward to continued collaboration, discussion, and updates in the future. thank you mr. hartnett and your team, and godspeed on electrification. next item, please. >> item 11 is update on the trans- transit centre and the study of governance, management
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oversight delivery of the downtown extension. this is an information item. mr. cordova? >> tear peskin, commissioners, we will start with the ttc building update. >> good afternoon, or good morning. >> i will follow up with an update on the governance management oversight project. thank you. >> good morning, commissioners. i am the senior construction manager with the trans- page joint powers authority. i appreciate the opportunity to give an update on the temporary closure of the salesforce transit centre. while the term closure is disappointing, i want to share this board and with the public that the translate joint power
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authority, his highest priority is to get this facility back reopened, and as soon safely possible in a high degree of public confidence. to get to that point, there are steps that we need to do to get to that point. to step back for seconds, back in september 2018, we did have, we were temporarily closed after the fishers were found in two beams over fremont street up on the bus deck. the t.j. p8 short up those -- short up fremont street anti-semite design over at firs. so now to what steps have to be to get us back to that reopening , i've laid it out on the page and enable go in-depth on each one. first and foremost is the repair of the been -- beams on fremont street. i have a schedule slide that shows what that looks like, but
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also the proactive reinforcement of the similar design over at first street. both over fremont and first are the similar designs and it was prudent to do this design over at first street. i will show you what that looks like. we need to conduct an exhaustive review of the facility. we are looking at every place, everywhere, and i've mentioned in the past that we are reviewing over 15,000 shop drawings that has happened, and now we start the process of reviewing into different levels and which areas need additional review. i have a graphic that will show that as well to the process. while the review is not yet complete, though, i do want to say that since the incident in september, you're all the monitoring, all the investigations, the inspections that we have done throughout the civil -- facility, no other
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issues or fishers have been found anywhere accept for the ones above fremont street at this point. the next step is to -- which has been in peril to all of this, is cooperating with the independent review of the metropolitan transportation commission. at the request of mayor breed and the mayor of oakland, the m.t.c. is conducting an independent review. we call it commonly the peer review panel. all our project reviews, all our project reports, all of our inspections are being filtered to and sent to the peer review panel for their approval, and they will talk to some of the timelines to that as well, too, but it is a very exhaustive efforts that is being presented to the peer review panel for their blessing on everything that we do going forward and in the past. as part of that, we have been completing a facility wide life and safety reinspection program.
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most of the focus has been on structural steel, but we have been tasked by the board to look at everything, not just structural, the mechanical, the electrical, the plumbing, various items, including the city and state oversight with d.b.i. and the elevator and escalator state boards that have been included in this exhaustive process. only then at that point, after we get through all this and the peer review panel has felt they can recommend safely opening a facility, we will get you opening it and resume transit operations. so to what that repair looks like, it has -- this graphic has been holding steady. it has finally did get the review and approval of the peer review panel and i will have a timeline to that too but that -- this is the graphic that we are doing this exact detail at that girders at fremont and also both girders at first street.
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so when you look at the rest of the building, there's many elements that you actually hit on. >> did you guys come to the conclusion that it was indeed the welding access hole that was the source of the fabrication problem? >> there's the preliminary results that was resorted -- reported back in december by the l.p.i., the lab that has been hired to do that, they have the preliminary micro cocking by the weld access hole and a pop in crack. and on thursday, he is going to provide his final report to that we are anxiously awaiting that to verify or have any comments or changes. we are anticipating the preliminary report will be his final report. >> but the working theory is that it was the crack that caused the problem.
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>> on thursday, l.p.i. it's going to walk through that entire thing and presented to the board. that is coming very soon. not only those locations, we are going throughout the rest of the facility as well too. besides reaffirming the structural integrity of the building, we are going through reviewing and testing all the tests, the inspection records, that will be done this month, in march. that will also be presented to the board on thursday, the findings, and what they have been as we have rereviewed all the paperwork and looked at pictures again that are necessary to verify what is out there. the building management systems commission, what that means its all the systems, whether it is the chillers, the mechanical, the air-conditioning, the lighting, all those will be finished in april, basically making sure all those systems work properly, and then re validating all the fire and life safety, the fire alarms, the strobes, the mass
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notification, all those are getting reevaluated by me to ensure the rest of the building does not have any issues as well too. back to the essence of the exhaustive review that has been directed for us to do. at only -- only at that point is it ready for reoccupancy. i referenced, for the facility wide validation, this is a graphic that is used building wide for structural steel. it was a very large, thick steel number. a concentration of stress, altius, a certain level of toughness in the plates that were identified in those 4-inch thick plates, and taking those and have put them as a top criteria that the peer review panel blessed, and using that as a criteria, they go through the 15,000 sheets that have eventually boil down to certain
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details of design and fabrication that will need an additional study. also included in that was the submittals. now where we're at today is in a level. we are mulling through this thousands and thousands of pages of looking for and confirming what pictures you have, whether it is a access hole or a certain well throughout the entire center. in the purple area. once we refinished that, which is in short order, you can imagine the amount of paperwork that is being mulched through, there is an army working on this new it -- knowing its critical path. only at that time well we ascertain if we even need to go on site, or if any corrective action plans or not. in my timeline, i will show you about when we think that's going to happen, which is really about mid april. we might as well go to it, it is
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right here. this is our schedule that i will talk about it line by line just to work through it. the ongoing peer review, we have had them on since november, late october of last year. they were ongoing. the design of first and fremont street and remediation, that was all finalized with the peer review comments. they finally gave the blessing in mid february for all the various modifications, the design and such, so it allowed us to move into the actual permanent fix installation, which is procurement care. not until they gave us a blessing could we get those plates, which are now in pennsylvania, about to be bent very shortly, and they will come one at a time, and not a large group. we will get them out here as soon as we can with a projected full installation and removal of june first. and then it shows the shoring removal, if anyone drives
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through first and fremont street , you have the shoring that is in the middle-of-the-road. that will also be removed by june 1st. as part of that, in conjunction, the reinstallation of all the systems. to get to these plates, a lot of mechanical and electrical plumbing, the wiring had to be moved out of the way. we've put back what we could, but once the system, the plates are in place, then we can finish the rest of the installation. by june 1st, if the ceiling panels won't all be end, but it doesn't affect anything in regards to the facilities operations. so then the team -- the building wide review, that is really the controlling operation at this point. the peer review building, they have been also reviewing what we have presented to them. that is the final so by april 15 th, we will have a very good
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indication. what we have projected out, now that all the plans have been reviewed, we know we need to review through the qc qa. we know what pictures we need to find to verify that. we figured by april 15th, we will either be in the field looking at something, or we will know we don't have -- that all places have been confirmed. that is where we are with the timeline at this point we can't put an answer to the opening because of that specific facility, if we don't find anything that needs repair, then it is the actual place themselves as the crook controlling operation. we won't know that until mid april. with that, that is the update for today. it would mean further presentations -- l.p.i., the lab is presenting at the board on thursday. also the peer review panel chair is also presenting an update at
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the board on thursday as well. i'm sure you have a lot of questions. >> i don't know. do weekly colleagues? i have one big question which is how are you guys doing paying back the quarter of a billion dollar loan that the san francisco board of supervisors gave you? >> i can take that back to the executive director and provide that information. i have the construction information at my hands at this point and i do not have a response for that. >> i think i lost that vote 10-1 , but i would like to know how the repayment was going when you have a chance. >> i have a number of speaker cards. one second before we do public comment. >> do you want to do public
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comment on this half of the presentation or do it all? >> we should have public comment on everything. why don't you go to governance. i will take public comment because people in the public may want to speak to the issue. my bad. >> thank you. i'm happy to report on the progress now that we are starting in essence for convening a panel of rail project experts in the areas of governance, management, oversight, finance, and project delivery. as you indicated, and i always appreciate your comments, commissioner, we need to get it right. there is a lot of entities here that we are working with, stakeholders, et cetera, a lot of different areas of expertise and need to be brought to the table so we can work together to bring the best minds together to make sure that we bring rail extension into the downtown terminal. what we have done is we went ahead and work towards an issue
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and went through an evaluation process and received four submittals for different firms and went through the submittals and looked at all the different types of expertise that we can bring to the table, and have landed to make sure that we get some unique expertise and talk about that just a bit we have shannon here who is a partner here that will work closely with us out of the san francisco office, and we are available to answer any questions you might have in that regard. i'm going to go ahead and show you, in essence, the different panel members from different companies with those areas of, in particular, finance.
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and in particular, john who has worked with the game a development project, which is basically the northeast corridor in new york, who has been grappling with the same types of issues there that they need to -- that they operate right now. they have a megaproject program they are working on. we want to learn from some of the work they've done in the past. we have a lot of experts that we have brought to the table in that regard. i also want to mention some of the folks like jeff who has been working with lax in terms of their expansion project and other major type of other rail and other transportation projects here. we think we have a good cross-section of folks that we are bringing to the table and we are ready to engage them. we are dealing with task borders and all the specific details to
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that. the key stakeholders, making sure we work with the california high-speed rail, caltrain, it was so good to see him here today. we understand this is a partnership. we have been working with them in the past. we want to build up the work that we performed last year, which is the two versus true three track study and work with them and other partners. we have been discussing with the staff the importance of this efforts. and looking at the relevance of other similar major rail projects in the bay area, second crossing, et cetera. we are bringing the tee g.p.a. we'll be part of this. finally, the city and county of san francisco, including the controller's office, looking at lessons learned from the first phase and what can we do better. ways to improve and that will be part of this stakeholder engagement, as well as others that are listed in the pocket. >> time frames? >> let's get to it. confidential interviews, we are
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by the -- basically ready to start right now. we are looking at rail project cased studies where we identify five of them international as well as domestic. we will have a series of workshops. the time frames here in terms of what we are looking to bring back to this board is in a couple of months. we are looking basically to come with a major update, hopefully with eliminate recommendations that will be subject to making sure that we can get the appropriate input from stakeholders, as well as assembling experts that we need in that regard. i have been thoroughly briefed. the reason i said earlier in item number 10 that 2019 is a year to get governance right is because both of these things are happening at the same time. they have the business plan and we have the soup to nuts review of the tee g.p.a. 2019. hopefully it is a year we can get this right.
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are there questions for staff. seeing then, why don't we go back to public comment. >> hello, i'm jim patrick. i saw this item in the agenda, this memorandum, and it talks about capital recovery and oversight delivery. this is a capital project. is a capital project. this board unanimously, essentially delete this project. i thought, that must have a cost and i noticed on this report it says, financial impact, none. i believe we all want this. this is a three billion-dollar project. if the inflation right is 4%, do the math, that is about $10 million a month.
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we have delayed this project now , with the action of the board, five or six months. all the engineering has stopped, the dcx project has stopped. this report is flawed. there is a cost to what we are doing. it is an inflation cost on a major project. if you eliminate the project, there's no cost, so i suggest this memorandum needs to be rethought and we need to add a good 50 or 60 million dollars to this delay, it has been a mistake that this board has made you need to continue the engineering, continue the process to plan out the d.t. x. as best as you can. right now it is stopped. don't allow that to happen. you already allow that to happen fix that problem. thank you. >> after we hear from the rest of public comment, i will let stuff respond to that, but let me tell you, if we repeated the
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mistake we made in phase i by giving these guys more money, it would be the definition of insanity. the floor is yours. >> hello. i am here on behalf of friends of d.t. x., which some of you guys know involves the leadership of the transit riders and several others who are on the planning department's working group for the wrap study , et cetera, et cetera. and we have been involved in all of this for years, if not decades. we are happy that you have the consultants underway. we are happy that you have a deadline of having a report at the end of may, early june. we hope that the deadline is firm, and that if the report recommends a whole new structure , which will take a year or two or three because it requires state legislation to implement, that that will not impede the work to be done. there is the 30% engineering for the phase i tunnel, the phase ii
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tunnel, there's the environmental review for the pennsylvania avenue extension tunnel, there's the work the planning department intends to do regarding the 22nd street station, all of those things should be moved forward soon. i say that because we need to have this project, the physical design of this project in place should the environment to change , and more money becoming available -- available. the three items i mentioned, there is all money available. it can be started right now. the supervision of your staff and others, and they're all relatively small projects. i'm sure you could get them underway without any fear that you're going to cause a new catastrophe. that is our ask. that you get this government study done in a hurry, and that you start some of the small
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essential projects that are needed to move things forward. >> thank you. >> thank you, again. the last time you were here, you asked him a question. but would have happened if the beam had collapsed? and this is something that i don't want to speculate, but i am going to speculate for you. you would have had the bus plunging headfirst 50 feet straight into fremont killing the driver and every passenger on the bus. to your point just now about the definition of insanity, what are we doing, we have all these plans, this is what we did before we got stalled.
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why do you expect any different results? a note to your chief executive, there is a solution. it is called structural health monitoring which basically monitors the building. if anything goes wrong with the deal, it triggers an alarm. that was five months ago. nothing has been done. i will make it very clear to you resuming bus operations on the terminal without full time monitoring in place is criminally irresponsible. moving on to -- there's a couple of things i would like to see different. this was not an open bid, it was not an open r.f.p. they went to a bunch. there could have been good input from other companies. i want you to know that cross rail is 18 months late.
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10% is important when your budget is $25 billion. i would like to have seen high-speed one, which is how we actually got the channel tunnel connected into london. my only recommendation would be an adjustment. >> thank you. seeing no other members of the public for this item, we will close public comment and hear from our executive director. >> thank you. just to clarify that last point on the procurement, it does -- this does comply with the procurement policy. we did an invitation to bid to our bench of consultants. >> i think he was referring to the tee g.p.a. working channel. >> no i think he meant the governance. it is covered. and to mr. patrick, i don't think that is the critical path work to delivering d.t. x.
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we think that is important work. it is pretty straightforward. it is about a year's worth to complete that work. but the six-month pause we are taking, i think it's really going to set this project on the path to a real feasibility versus just a dream. the 30% will resume after this project delivery report is done, and it is the funding plan that will take all that strategy and confidence on the part of the existing and future funders. >> we do have a strategy to go after with the director funds, but without the competence on the part of the region and the state that the agency and the institutional structure and capacity is there to do it, i think it is a bit shortsighted to hold it all up without having that strategy and that is our
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intent to prepare it for the board. >> thank you. any comments from commissioners. >> thank you, i have seen a lot of this in my capacity as a tjpa board member. i did have a question for director chang about this, two things. one is, to the point around whether or not this report might leave us in a bit of uncertainty in terms of neck steps, especially if it makes larger recommendations around big changes around governance, which may actually be needed, as part of this report also going to, are we going to ask these folks to think about, in light of those recommendations around governance what can still move forward and how quickly, and all of that? because it would be a tough
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position if they recommend a lot of changes, but not a sense of how we move forward with those and completing the where guessing is possible in light of those changes. and then a related point around the question related to the friends of d.t.x. around smaller aspects of the work that can continue during the next number of months, is there anything in your view that would follow -- fall into that category and what more can we do to make sure that we are -- obviously we want to get this right, that we are continuing to move forward in any way that we can. >> thank you for that question. the two questions, on the first, any recommendation that we would make in any of these three tasks including the government -- governance task will need to benefit from the input and the consensusbuilding that we can obtain with all the stakeholders at the table. as you can see from our presentation, we are intending to involve all the major stakeholders and to benefit from the range of experts that can
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advise us if those recommendations and the will of the board in our stakeholder partners is to make those changes, i think that we should be able to do those expeditiously as possible if there is a consensus. in the meantime, that doesn't mean that work isn't taking place. one of the most important things to unpack is the fourth and king the use of the northern terminus of caltrain in your district. as we discussed yesterday, we will be finishing up the scoping work together with the city and county, caltrain, and high-speed rail regarding the use of that fourth and king terminus site, that potential do expands the underground station planned at fourth and townsend, and to figure out what to do with those yards. those yards of multiple functions. not all of them are needed in the future when we have transport and the trains going to translate, so therefore, what part of those functions can be done elsewhere along the line? what part of this function c. to remain at the site either all up on top for a bit until we get
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the transport or underneath in the future when we have the underground station? thank you for mentioning that. that is really important work. that is happening right now. in fact, that work is very complicated, and it is a good use of everyone's time because that is also on the critical path. >> thank you for those questions and comments. if there are no other comments from commissioners, thank you for that update. is there any introduction of new items? seeing done, is there any general public comment? >> i would like to very briefly touch on developments -- you obviously know what happened at the federal level, which is unfortunate, but what you may not know is another decision
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that the governor made is that what funding there was behind san jose is essentially being transferred to the central valley to expand whatever these people are doing there. i can tell you they are not building a high-speed line. i know that. but whatever they are doing, they will be withstanding their work. having said that, the impact is tremendous in terms of capacity. you're talking about a large station that will probably happen. it will probably be checked twice the size as transfer. all that has to be taken into account, and you have to support this, whatever it is you are trying to do to make the
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situation, for the same reason that we are going to support you with the future trans pay tunnel it is the only way that you will ever be resolving any kind of capacity issues that you may have entrance bay. i have news for you. caltrain we are talking about -- my news to you is that you are going to have an excess of 20 trains in our, potentially 30 trains an hour in each direction coming in and out, and half of the trains cannot go down. you have to send them back across the bay. as long as everybody knows what all the pieces in the puzzle aren't we all all work on this together, i think we will get that outcome. thank you. >> thank you. see no additional public comment , we are adjourned.
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>> i view san francisco almost
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as a sibling or a parent or something. i just love the city. i love everything about it. when i'm away from it, i miss it like a person. i grew up in san francisco kind of all over the city. we had pretty much the run of the city 'cause we lived pretty close to polk street, and so we would -- in the summer, we'd all all the way down to aquatic park, and we'd walk down to the library, to the kids' center. in those days, the city was safe and nobody worried about us running around. i went to high school in spring valley. it was over the hill from chinatown. it was kind of fun to experience being in a minority, which most white people don't get to experience that often. everything was just really within walking distance, so it make it really fun. when i was a teenager, we didn't have a lot of money. we could go to sam wong's and
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get super -- soup for $1. my parents came here and were drawn to the beatnik culture. they wanted to meet all of the writers who were so famous at the time, but my mother had some serious mental illness issues, and i don't think my father were really aware of that, and those didn't really become evident until i was about five, i guess, and my marriage blew up, and my mother took me all over the world. most of those ad ventures ended up bad because they would end up hospitalized. when i was about six i guess, my mother took me to japan, and that was a very interesting trip where we went over with a boyfriend of hers, and he was working there. i remember the open sewers and gigantic frogs that lived in
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the sewers and things like that. mostly i remember the smells very intensely, but i loved japan. it was wonderful. toward the end. my mother had a breakdown, and that was the cycle. we would go somewhere, stay for a certain amount of months, a year, period of time, and she would inevitably have a breakdown. we always came back to san francisco which i guess came me some sense of continuity and that was what kept me sort of stable. my mother hated to fly, so she would always make us take ships places, so on this particular occasion when i was, i think, 12, we were on this ship getting ready to go through the panama canal, and she had a breakdown on the ship. so she was put in the brig, and i was left to wander the ship until we got to fluorfluora few days later, where we had a distant -- florida a few days
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later, where we had a distant cousin who came and got us. i think i always knew i was a writer on some level, but i kind of stopped when i became a cop. i used to write short stories, and i thought someday i'm going to write a book about all these ad ventures that my mother took me on. when i became a cop, i found i turned off parts of my brain. i found i had to learn to conform, which was not anything i'd really been taught but felt very safe to me. i think i was drawn to police work because after coming from such chaos, it seemed like a very organized, but stable environment. and even though things happening, it felt like putting order on chaos and that felt very safe to me. my girlfriend and i were sitting in ve 150d uvio's bar,
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and i looked out the window and i saw a police car, and there was a woman who looked like me driving the car. for a moment, i thought i was me. and i turned to my friend and i said, i think i'm supposed to do this. i saw myself driving in this car. as a child, we never thought of police work as a possibility for women because there weren't any until the mid70's, so i had only even begun to notice there were women doing this job. when i saw here, it seemed like this is what i was meant to do. one of my bosses as ben johnson's had been a cop, and he -- i said, i have this weird idea that i should do this. he said, i think you'd be good. the department was forced to hire us, and because of all of the posters, and the big recruitment drive, we were
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under the impression that they were glad to have us, but in reality, most of the men did not want the women there. so the big challenge was constantly feeling like you had to prove yourself and feeling like if you did not do a good job, you were letting down your entire gender. finally took an inspector's test and passed that and then went down to the hall of justice and worked different investigations for the rest of my career, which was fun. i just felt sort of buried alive in all of these cases, these unsolved mysteries that there were just so many of them, and some of them, i didn't know if we'd ever be able to solve, so my boss was able to get me out of the unit. he transferred me out, and a couple of weeks later, i found out i had breast cancer. my intuition that the job was killing me. i ended up leaving, and by then, i had 28 years or the years in, i think. the writing thing really became intense when i was going through treatment for cancer because i felt like there were
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so many parts that my kids didn't know. they didn't know my story, they didn't know why i had a relationship with my mother, why we had no family to speak of. it just poured out of me. i gave it to a friend who is an editor, and she said i think this would be publishable and i think people would be interested in this. i am so lucky to live here. i am so grateful to my parents who decided to move to the city. i am so grateful they did. that it never
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hirs >> president hirsch: call the meeting to order. >> clerk: yes. please turnoff all cell phones and electronic devices as they may disrupt the room. please stand for the pledge of