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worst moment. so it was a good position to be in on behalf of the commission. >> president hirsch: commissioner elias. >> commissioner elias: i wanted to follow up on the 1421 status. i wanted to commend the city attorney mirroring the policy that we will be rolling out after the statute that was instituted. it's my understanding that the p.o.a. has filed a lawsuit regarding the retroactivity of the resolution and that's to be held on may 3. it's my understanding that no records have been released by the police department to any p.r.a. requests that have been made after the law was passed as of january 1, 2019. >> president hirsch: okay. thank you. commissioner dejesus? >> commissioner dejesus: okay. so i've been kind of busy. i met with the youth commission
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ba because we had a draft resolution to have a youth commission sit with us. smart they are. they directed me to the youth committee, and so they had some great changes, requests to make changes so it's clear. so what i'll do when it's time for the agenda, i'm going to ask that we put this on the agenda and i'll give a copy of the draft to everybody, the city attorney, and we'll go over it, but the idea is to have them sit and -- and have them sit with us and comment and make recommendations to all polishes that affect youth and also participate in our ongoing conversations, so that was great. i also attended the youth event yesterday with the chief. i couldn't stay for the whole thing, but i agree, they had it -- they had it organized. they kept the adults in check so that they could have the
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floor. i do want to commend the chief, there was a lot of youth there from the school resources, and they broke out in small groups, and we had to listen, but they also were able to given put. i found that -- give input. and i heard a lot of fears. kids when they were growing up, officers coming into their homes and knocking them down. they're still fearful, but they're working on it because they want a relationship with the police officers. that was really interesting. i'm glad i went. i went to the language access -- what's it called? language -- the language access working group. it met on tuesday for domestic violence and sexual assault providers, and i have to say i was dismayed to know that one of the community groups, a
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woman, a victim of domestic violence is having difficulty getting a police report and was told it was under investigation so there's no report going to be given. now, the officers are going to look into it because the d.v.b. unit was there. it's just not the law. second thing was there was still discussion regarding access to the bakery, and some -- and there was new things that came out that i don't think i really other hand when we had the -- understood when we had the presentation last week. but when we came -- what's it called? department of -- >> emergency management. >> commissioner dejesus: emergency management, and it was coded as a priority a. they told us it was a c. >> commissioner dejesus: it was do downgraded to a b, and i guess there was a discussion at the group was who makes that determination? a strong-arm robbery, a hot
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proul, he they have brought that down to a b., but that's the same as vandenbealism. that's something the group was talking about, and your people are going to be looking into that, and i appreciate that. the other thing they were concerned about it is the department of emergency management has access to all officers who have language skills -- immediate -- they don't who is on the field at what time, and the question was why couldn't they send a cantonese speaker who was on the field? maybe it's because he checked in later, we don't know, but it shows four hours after we get there, 30 minutes later, the
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c cantoness speaker arrived. those are issues -- those are pretty important issues that they brought up. so i guess we're still looking into that, and there are people who are there that are going to look into that. the other thing is -- and we may need your intervention. your -- lozar was there, and he's going to look into this. but apparently, we have to -- it may take one department head to another department head to talk about certifying the languages, the hindi and the arabic, to get those added as soon as possible. there's some kind of road block, so you may need intervention. you talked about rolling out the language app on the interpreter's phone, and phone
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conference with the sign language interpreter. those are the main things that we talked about. the last thing they mentioned there that i should mention here, i guess n.p.r. is doing some kind of study, san francisco, our technology is from 1980. we live in silicon valley, but we have technology from 1980. it would be nice if people could put on a laptop, and the people in triage could see. in rolling out the language line -- line app, they have that, but i don't see that happening. okay. and i also attended the e.i.s. subcommittee this morning.
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yeah, i am busy. the university of chicago flaked on us. they gave us this preliminary report that is full of errors. there are some flags matching up to the use of force report that we got last week. there's also an anomaly in central station moved up from the fourth position to the second position with the highest flags, but last week, it was also the second with the highest use of force. so i'm wondering, is that an anomaly or what is causing central to move up in that way? and there was some discussion about it. and e.i.s. is coming next week. i don't want to steal their thunder, but that's coming up. i want to know what the status
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of the body worn camera working group is because i guess i'm assigned to that, and i want to know when we're going to do that. last thing, i started working with rachel regarding -- >> clerk: the evaluation. >> commissioner dejesus: the evaluation of the chief of police standards, we'll have to talk about what we're looking for in public. we'll study something up and we'll agendaize is when we're ready. >> president hirsch: okay. thank you. commissioner brookter? >> commissioner brookter: thank you so much, petra. i wanted to be able to attend that that night, but i wasn't able to attend. so thank you. last week, i got the opportunity to attend the 49th
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annual youth community presentation. it was very well attended. great event hosted by a community group on us of chinatown. and then also got the opportunity on monday. there was a community meeting that was held at mission high school in regards to the memorandum of understanding or m.o.u. between sfusd and us here at sfpd. and it was very well attended again. we had folks from city departments. i think director davis was there. it was really great to see community members coming together to have a discussion about what they wanted to see from our s.r.o.s in our public schools. i, too, want to ask when we get to agendaizing that we get a status update on the agenda and where it is. i know chief, just to make sure we push that through. i know the five-year m.o.u. that we had was from 2013, so i want to ensure we get that in
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place. >> president hirsch: okay. thank you. commissioner hamasaki? >> commissioner hamasaki: thank you. president hirsch. so the one thing i wanted to report on was that following the youth commission's presentation here, i reached out to lisa thurow about some of the work that was mentioned by the youth commission by policing. i have been reading materials and consulting with others, including the d.p.a. and i've thought -- i actually was kind of stole, apparently, commissioner dejesus' idea but what i would like to do is form a youth and policing working group, and this would involve, you know, consulting with the department and getting members
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of the working group and president hirsch and some of the best testimony berz of the community. so i -- the members of the community. this is something i'd like to get started -- get rolling this week. >> president hirsch: okay. yeah? >> commissioner dejesus: and also, they talked to me about that, too, and i know commissioner hamasaki was going to bring that up. they want to see the department take the latiead in getting th setup. >> president hirsch: i just want to ask you, you just passed out --
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>> commissioner dejesus: yeah. i'm going to put on this the agenda some other time. i just wanted to give you a copy to see what was coming. >> president hirsch: okay. thank you. one thing is clear, this commission is active and working and it sounds like we're doing what we should be doing. next line item. [agenda item read] himp. >> president hirsch: commissioner dejesus? >> commissioner dejesus: yeah. i would like to put this onto a time where we can find a youth commission member to this body. the second thing is, the body camera working group, do we need to put it on the agenda -- >> president hirsch: i think we can do it away from this group. do we know who the individual at the department -- who is the executive sponsor?
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>> i'll have the assistant follow up. >> yeah. i'm part of that working group, and i think the p.o.a. was in negotiations. it would be good to get an update on the status and kind of figure out what we're doing. so maybe we can do that offline. >> president hirsch: i just need one clarification. is the u.c. asking that they have a member who sits as part of the police commission? >> commissioner dejesus: i guess you weren't -- >> president hirsch: i was here, but i wasn't on. >> i'd been talking to julius. we do a lot of thirngs with th youth. especially in light of what happened at balboa high school, i asked the city attorney to help me with the resolution that me, i, that we request a
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designated youth representative who may be a member of the youth commission or nominated by the commissioner to participate in youth commission meetings and to participate, comment and make recommendations to the commission on all policies that affect the youth and that they do have a designated standing item on the agenda so they can comment on juvenile resolutions and policies. now they wouldn't sit in on closed session or participate or anything like that, but they would be a member and participate with us. >> just as a core -- corollary, if we can set that up for all
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commissioners. >> president hirsch: okay. commissioner elias? >> commissioner elias: i'd like to know what steps the san francisco police department is taking in the 96-a report. i think this has to do with what commissioner dejesus commented on the specific districts. this report showed the use of force based on districts, and there was an increase in central by 55% since last year, and northern has a 43% in use of force since last year. park has a 175% increase, but i think the number was so low to begin with, it jumped from 6 to 33. i know you weren't here, but a.c. signs did indicate to us in addition to the academic institution coming in and signalsing this data, the
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police department -- analyzing this data, the police department is analyzing this data, and i'd like an update on what solutions they're coming up with and how to address it. while we can wait for the academic analysis to come in, it's on us to also do our due diligence in terms of analyzing the solutions and the data and numbers that are in front of us. the whole purpose of the 96-a report is to entrust community trust and this is applied evenly to all communities throughout the city. so that's what i'd like to agendaize for the next commission meeting. >> president hirsch: great. commissioner brookter? >> commissioner brookter: yes. i'd like to see maybe in the april 17 meeting that we get a presentation on the memorandum of understanding between the sfpd and the san francisco unified school district. >> president hirsch: okay. thank you all. ready for the next item.
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>> clerk: okay. i'd like to announce the next police commission meeting will be wednesday, march 20, here at city hall, room 400, at 5:30 p.m. the public is now invited to comment on-line items 1-a through 1-d. >> president hirsch: okay. we're asking for public comment on items 1-a through d. >> good evening, commissioners. brad williams, excelsior. i very much appreciate commissioner dejesus bringing up miss appropriation of -- misappropriation of department assets. i think it's something we came up in war reports.
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controlled assets was controlled via chain of command and orders. maybe in our environment now that's not really the way to go if you consider, say, a large investment bank or a -- any for-profit entity. they have certain controls that are lacking, when it comes to these -- these assets, particularly such as a report or item that might be described as intellectual property. i think there's been a lack of looking into this. particularly, honest how the auditors can base a strict liability based on the lack of internal controls and the per
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have the fact that there aren't adequate internal controls, i believe lends to that possibility and this is just one narrow area. if you think of instead of this body as, say, the s.e.c. were the regulator, it would be very different. thank you. >> president hirsch: thank you. any other public comment on items 1-a through d? good evening. >> good evening, commissioners and chief scott. my name is tammy bryant. i'm a district five resident, and i just wanted to say i was at the roundtable, and it was really amazing, to see the collaboration and the youth just blew me away. what i really liked, it was so solution based.
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i like having a commissioner be a part of the youth commission. just like the san francisco unified school district board of education, they have student delegates. the woman's month video was beautiful, but it also made me think about that deputy last week on the news in alameda who was able to talk down the suspect with a knife, who was egging the officer on and who was looking like he could be a huge threat, but i really nend what i saw her do which was basically talk her down. i have to say as women, we are going to sometimes use our smarts. i really liked that, and i hope that can be something more like a model. i did have an unfortunate incident about that a couple of weeks where the officers are
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knowledge idea about that. i just always want to remind you how up set i am over the racist text messages back from years ago. i don't know if they've ever been addressed, but i just cannot emphasize how unacceptable it was that officers would use that kind of language, that i don't use, don't think about. i don't think it should be used on the city equipment, but i think it should involve termination because i don't think anybody is going to feel safe like i did with them on the department. i geuess we're talking about te late public defender jeff adachi would be released, and i'm glad it's being taken
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seriously by the commission. >> president hirsch: thank you. any other comment on items 1-a through d. >> yes. i just wanted to comment on the video you just showed, and heather fong. i remember i was here when she was -- yeah, she -- and she was really sensitive to my issues, also. and so i think that was that video, even looking at all the women that are courageous, a lot of them are mothers, and i'm pretty sure a lot of them are mothers on that video and have children and can sympathize with how i feel. i don't know if any of them have lost loved ones in the line of duty or just medical issues. grief is grief, you know? so -- but that was a good
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video, and i also miss -- just get her name -- yeah, rachel, i forgot. i left that day, and i really miss not seeing her there, but i guess i will give this to you -- get used to you now. but yeah, the video was really great, so yeah, we do want to think about that even though that video and everything that the -- a lot of those officers and mothers are still looking -- are seeing trauma every day through their work. and that they're also going through it, too, because you think about suicide. people that commit the most suicide are officers that have to see this every day, what they see, and ambulance drivers, and mothers like myself, who has to deal with their children being murdered. so i just want to say that it
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was a really good video. thank you. >> president hirsch: thank you. any other public comment on items 1-a through d? good evening. >> good evening -- good evening, everybody. my name is whitney holmes. i'm the new senior clark that joined d.p.a. i just wanted to express my joy for hearing how much participation that we're having in the youth in san francisco. i was previously a resident myself and i have two small children, so this is a direct issue for me. i love the fact that we're hitting concrete issues such as the relationship that the public as far as our youth goes has with law enforcement, because i do see this is going to be a contingent issue for us moving forward, seeing a lot of us will be moving onto retirement or just kind of been in the game a long time, and we need to bring fresh people in. so this is a great way to reach
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out, and i just want to encourage everybody that's on the commission to please keep doing so. myself included, i'll do whatever it takes to ensure i'm an active participant in the movement we have going forward, and i just want to say thank you for having me here this evening. >> president hirsch: thank you. >> commissioner elias: thank you. >> president hirsch: okay. any other comment? no further comment, so public comment on eyesed 1 through a -- items 1 through -- 5 through d are closed. next item. [agenda item read]. >> president hirsch: we previously approved in january rules for administrative appeal, and that came out of a meet and confer process and a mediated arbitration with professor gould. and we setup a structure for
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appealing disciplinary matters which was and is intended to be just a short-term fix that was necessitated by the morgado decision. we've been working on -- commissioner elias and i have been working on this for quite sometime, since you started on the commission and myself even before that, introducing a charter amendment that history would stay in the commission. it's been the opinion in this city for -- discipline would stay in the commission. we currently have a system that i don't think everybody is satisfied with, where a decision by seven members of this decision can be appealed to one administrative law judge which really in my opinion is
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an inverted appeal process. so we attempted to structure an appeal process that would stay -- keep the appeals within the commission. we worked with the chief and the chief staff. with the d.p.a. and d.p.a. staff, and with commissioners. and question looked at a variety of possible solutions, and this is what we have come up with. it is an appeal process that tracks somewhat what we're doing now in that a single commissioner would conduct a hearing, and then, three commissioners, allowing that one commissioner would make a decision based upon that decision, and that hearing could then be appealed to three different commissioners who would sit as an appellate body on that disciplinary matter. there would be one commissioner left out of each case.
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that commissioner would be an alternate, if we needed a substitute or another one of the bodies. we've had cases where a commissioner needs to recuse him or herself, and so we've had a seventh commissioner. this is going to take some time. this probably can't get on a ballot until -- november is probably the earliest, but it needs to go through city hall, it needs a sponsor out of the board of supervisors. we then need to go into meet and confer with the d.p.a. because this directly affects terms of employment. [please stand by]
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>> i understand you have a one floating commissioner. i only count six. the way i'm reading it is you have one commissioner who can
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conduct settlements and conduct the hearing -- they may roll provided the taking of evidence, the commission that has presided over the evidence that two other commissioners shall conduct a hearing and go forward, and then you have three that they can appeal to. that is six. where is the seventh? >> the seventh is not participating unless we need the seventh to step into fill a gap because some to has to be recused or is unavailable. in each case, only six of us participate and one sits out and that will be rotating around. here is one of my concerns, three of us are doing the hearing, and i don't know where we are. that is a lot of hearings for three commissioners to do, so i guess, i mean, will these three
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commissioners do all the hearings, or will we rotate six months, three will have a hearing, and the next six months it will be the appellant process otherwise, i don't know if people know this, but sometimes these go for full-day days, and sometimes they go full days a week. i'm just wondering if it is a big burden. >> it is not something i have decided, one possibility will be every case, there is an alphabetical listing. he rotate for each case, three people who are picked as hearing officers for case a, no three different people are picked for case be. a different group for case see. you constantly are rotating through so that nobody is overwhelmed with hearings or appeals. >> and we did take statistics. i asked the sergeant when we were drafting this what the numbers where it with respect to
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how many discipline cases we received and there has been a substantial decline over the past several years in the number of discipline cases that we received. some of us have two, some of us have five, but there is no one here who has double digit discipline cases. so the trend has been a declining trend. >> i have been here a long time. [laughter]. >> we are doing hearings and hearings and there's no way to catch up. i know we are not there right now those are a lot of hearings to put on. >> i have the idea of how it will work, because -- >> this is a process that we can build going forward to. this will take a year to implement even if we implement -- even if we pass it now. so that is for something for the commission. and the commission may not even
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be staffed the way it is now by the time this is implemented. we may have slightly different commissioners in place. >> i understand that, but wouldn't you want to know how it works? >> yes, but i thank you can be part of building that process. we haven't decided that. it is simply getting the structure in place because we did not feel there was a better way to do this. >> so if you have three and three, and one person is it necessary, you will have three panels, and the panels continually change. >> yes, they will continually change. one person will set out for a year and then they will get the next case. >> 331 rotates with each case. >> let's say we get three discipline cases, on case one, it will be 33 and then once it's out, and then case to, the one that sets out subset in, and then another subs out, and then on case three, the same thing, it goes down the list. >> it took us a long time.
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we put a lot of thought and effort and we were guided with the city attorney with respect to this process. it is not easy. we were given a situation where we had to change our current structure because of the more -- to work out a decision. >> let me clarify, the single commissioner is still for the taking of the evidence, right? >> the single commissioner, as we do it now, would join to other commissioners to become part of the hearing group that does the initial taking. >> icy. >> also, a lot of these cases settle, too. many of them do not go to hearings, so my experience is, more than half of my cases have been settling, which is a positive, and i think that maybe true for all of us. director henderson? >> i was going to say, this is a lot of work that went into drafting and getting us to this place. we went through a lot of
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different ideas in terms of what we -- what was going to work, what the parameters where, and i just wanted to thank everybody for their time, support, and encouragement forgetting to this resolution including the city attorney's office, because we spent a lot of time and work in drafting this. we are very supportive of this resolution, which is the resolution that we have been suggesting, something similar like this throughout the process i just wanted to acknowledge that and to move forward on the resolution. >> thank you. >> just briefly, thank you. i think i appreciate the hard work. back around when i started on the commission that i met with d.p.a., i know this is -- this
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has been a big concern of theirs , and i think for the commission, for them to keep the discipline within the commission or some outside body, is really important to me. that's how we should maintain it i think everybody has done some great work here, and so even though i wasn't part of this, i think the final outcome is something that i support. >> thank you. vice president taylor? >> just to hopefully respond to the commissioner's comments, the way i understand, these things generally work is that the labor -- determining the rotation of the order will be on commission staff for better or worse while it is confusing, that is part of what makes the commission his staff so wonderful it will be one where thing for them to worry about.
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>> and when you read this, it doesn't say how it will be determined, so that is why i'm asking the questions. i have another question if i can ask, so you have three commissioners doing the hearing, and then two out of the three appellant commissioners, two of those commissioners can reverse the three commissioners who did the hearing. >> that is true. that would be right. >> there's not a higher threshold? [laughter] [laughter] >> this is real serious. it is real serious. >> you are right. >> those combos, i just think about the common -- -- the combos. >> that is why the rotation of who goes in what order will be determined first so it is a fair process so there is no monkeying
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around. >> exactly. >> it is very clear, transparent , and very fair. >> is randomized in a way. >> the fact of the matter is, there's not not a lot of -- for all the argument that happened in the public, we generally align on disciplinary decisions, we don't have a lot of -- the concept might be -- but, you know, we are generally in line on those. >> okay. any other comment? if not, i would ask for a motion to approve this as our draft charter amendment. >> we'll take public comment in a second. >> before the vote. >> is there a second? >> second. >> we need public comment on this proposed charter amendment and the motion on the floor.
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>> good evening, commissioners, i am also here as a union member myself, and i want to say that i like the language, and i like this process, and i will be supporting it. if it is something on the ballot , i will have to campaign for it. thank you. >> any other comment? public comment -- i'm sorry. >> good evening, again. i would like to support this motion. thanks. >> thank you. >> any other comment? okay, hearing none, public comment is closed. can we have a vote, please? there was a motion and second. all in favor signified by saying aye. >> aye. >> opposed? >> that passes unanimously. i think we thank you as do
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director henderson and the chief not cite them, please. >> general public comment. the public is now welcome to address the commission regarding items that do not appear on the agenda tonight but that are within the subject matter jurisdiction of the commission. speaker shall address their remarks to the commission as a whole and not to individual commissioners for department or d.p.a. personnel. under police commission rules of order during public comment, neither police or d.p.a. personnel or commissioners can be written can respond to -- but may provide a brief response. individual commissioners and police and d.p.a. personnel should refrain however from entering into any debates or discussion with speakers during public comment. >> general public comment. >> good evening, again. >> good evening. brett edwards from excelsior.
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in the wake of the sheriff's department asking for some oversight from d.p.a. and interest and regulations from this body, i have some concerns about that. i see that this body is strained and perhaps doesn't have enough resources currently. i wonder if commissioners have -- >> second. [laughter]. >> any availability of saying staffing from week to week, it seems like you do a lot of your own back office work. i don't know, i think it would serve all the citizens that are -- with some ability to have some staffing. >> thank you. >> if i could give a standing ovation right now. [laughter]. >> are you volunteering to work with us? >> any other public comment?
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>> good evening, again. i would like to use the overhead i'm sorry i always come and i talk about my son, but i haven't shown the other unsolved homicides that have been happening in the city of san francisco, and the majority, maybe a couple of these homicides on this poster are only -- only two of them have been solved, but the rest of them are still unsolved, and i come here and i talk about unsolved homicides all the time and half of these people on here are members of the healing circle, and the mothers and fathers are still suffering. i bring this here, this is the healing circle that we have
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every second and fourth thursday of the month to talk about -- talk with parents and mothers and fathers who have lost their children to homicide. incarceration, domestic violence , child abuse, hate crimes, foster care, robbery, we talk about all of that because trauma is trauma. again, my son who was murdered august 14th, 20 -- 2006. again, 30 rounds of bullets left that gun into my son, my 16 -year-old boy. it will be 13 years, if it is not 13 years already. you know as time passes, you forget. somebody was talking to the other day and telling me about my son and i've been so busy
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fighting for justice for him that i forgot how he used to act , and how he used to smile, and who he used to go to school with, and people will come up to me and say things and i say who are you? as time passes you forget and i don't want to forget, you guys. it still hurts. i am tired of crying, but i can't help it. this was my boy and i still cry but i am a strong woman, though, but the tears still fall i bring my pictures all the time. he had a father. he had a mother and a father who raised him well. we have no qualms with being the
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parents that we were, we were good parents to our children this is what we are left with standing over our children's casket, i want people to remember and understand what i go through. i know you don't like looking at it, but this is what i have left i want justice for my son. >> again, the tip line is (415)575-4444. i just feel like a broken record sailings -- saying that every week. i hope someone will come forward one day. next item. >> line item four, adjournment, action item. >> okay, we are going to adjourn tonight and the memory of jeff adachi. i have been asked by commissioners, and we want to recognize jeff adachi as one of
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the most fearless and admired public officials that this city has ever had. so we are going to adjourn in his name, and i asked commissioners, if you have anything that you want to say? >> i have worked with jeff since 1986. i have known him ever since. he was a dear friend. he was a great warrior, he took that office and transforms that office. he gave them tools to do their job. he increased the personnel that was there. you provided services, social services for people. you just put programs in that really helped people, and i know -- he just put programs and that -- in that really helped people. he did what he thought was right , and he didn't back down, and he was just incredibly courageous. we will miss him, and he really brought that office into the 21 st century of what a
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defender's office should be. he attacked the bail system, there's so many other programs that he worked on. he was always thinking and always doing good, rest in peace >> thank you. >> a huge, huge loss. having been at the public defender's office for more then a decade, he trained trial worriers and the success right reflects that, and i am glad to see that somebody has been selected that will carry on his memory. >> thank you. can i have a motion to adjourn. >> motion. >> all in favor? >> aye. >> thank you, all.
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my name is doctor ellen moffett, i am an assistant medical examiner for the city and county of san francisco. i perform autopsy, review medical records and write reports. also integrate other sorts of testing data to determine cause and manner of death. i have been here at this facility since i moved here in november, and previous to that at the old facility. i was worried when we moved here that because this building is so much larger that i wouldn't see people every day.
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i would miss my personal interactions with the other employees, but that hasn't been the case. this building is very nice. we have lovely autopsy tables and i do get to go upstairs and down stairs several times a day to see everyone else i work with. we have a bond like any other group of employees that work for a specific agency in san francisco. we work closely on each case to determine the best cause of death, and we also interact with family members of the diseased. that brings us closer together also. >> i am an investigator two at the office of the chief until examiner in san francisco. as an investigator here i investigate all manners of death that come through our jurisdiction. i go to the field interview police officers, detectives, family members, physicians, anyone who might be involved with the death.
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additionally i take any property with the deceased individual and take care and custody of that. i maintain the chain and custody for court purposes if that becomes an issue later and notify next of kin and make any additional follow up phone callsness with that particular death. i am dealing with people at the worst possible time in their lives delivering the worst news they could get. i work with the family to help them through the grieving process. >> i am ricky moore, a clerk at the san francisco medical examiner's office. i assist the pathology and toxicology and investigative team around work close with the families, loved ones and funeral establishment. >> i started at the old facility. the building was old, vintage. we had issues with plumbing and
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things like that. i had a tiny desk. i feet very happy to be here in the new digs where i actually have room to do my work. >> i am sue pairing, the toxicologist supervisor. we test for alcohol, drugs and poisons and biological substances. i oversee all of the lab operations. the forensic operation here we perform the toxicology testing for the human performance and the case in the city of san francisco. we collect evidence at the scene. a woman was killed after a robbery homicide, and the dna collected from the zip ties she was bound with ended up being a cold hit to the suspect. that was the only investigative link collecting the scene to the suspect. it is nice to get the feedback. we do a lot of work and you
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don't hear the result. once in a while you heard it had an impact on somebody. you can bring justice to what happened. we are able to take what we due to the next level. many of our counterparts in other states, cities or countries don't have the resources and don't have the beautiful building and the equipmentness to really advance what we are doing. >> sometimes we go to court. whoever is on call may be called out of the office to go to various portions of the city to investigate suspicious deaths. we do whatever we can to get our job done. >> when we think that a case has a natural cause of death and it turns out to be another natural cause of death. unexpected findings are fun.
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>> i have a prior background in law enforcement. i was a police officer for 8 years. i handled homicides and suicides. i had been around death investigation type scenes. as a police officer we only handled minimal components then it was turned over to the coroner or the detective division. i am intrigued with those types of calls. i wondered why someone died. i have an extremely supportive family. older children say, mom, how was your day. i can give minor details and i have an amazing spouse always willing to listen to any and all details of my day. without that it would be really hard to deal with the negative components of this job. >> being i am a native of san francisco and grew up in the community.
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i come across that a lot where i may know a loved one coming from the back way or a loved one seeking answers for their deceased. there are a lot of cases where i may feel affected by it. if from is a child involved or things like that. i try to not bring it home and not let it affect me. when i tell people i work at the medical examiners office. whawhat do you do? the autopsy? i deal with the a with the enou- with the administrative and the families. >> most of the time work here is very enjoyable. >> after i started working with dead people, i had just gotten married and one night i woke up in a cold sweat. i thought there was somebody dead? my bed. i rolled over and poked the
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body. sure enough, it was my husband who grumbled and went back to sleep. this job does have lingering effects. in terms of why did you want to go into this? i loved science growing up but i didn't want to be a doctor and didn't want to be a pharmacist. the more i learned about forensics how interested i was of the perfect combination between applied science and criminal justice. if you are interested in finding out the facts and truth seeking to find out what happened, anybody interested in that has a place in this field. >> being a woman we just need to go for it and don't let anyone fail you, you can't be. >> with regard to this position in comparison to crime dramas out there, i would say there might be some minor
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correlations. let's face it, we aren't hollywood, we are real world. yes we collect evidence. we want to preserve that. we are not scanning fingerprints in the field like a hollywood television show. >> families say thank you for what you do, for me that is extremely fulfilling. somebody has to do my job. if i can make a situation that is really negative for someone more positive, then i feel like i am doing the right thing for the city of san francisco. >> the office of controllers whistle blower program is how city employees and recipient sound the alarm an fraud address wait in city government charitable complaints results in investigation that improves the efficiency of city government
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that. >> you can below the what if anything, by assess though the club program website arrest call 4147 or 311 and stating you wishing to file and complaint point controller's office the charitable program also accepts complaints by e-mail or 0 folk you can file a complaint or provide contact information seen by whistle blower investigates some examples of issues to be recorded to the whistle blower program face of misuse of city government money equipment supplies or materials exposure activities by city clez deficiencies the quality and delivery of city government services waste and inefficient government
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hear or see any dishelicopter behavior boy an employee please report it to say whistle blower program more information and the whistle blower protections please seek >> chair chiu: since our last meeting in february, commissioner kopp resigned. lifelong public servant, i wish to thank him for his dedication and service to the city and people of san francisco. also for his service and contribution here on the ethics commission. second is hous hoee