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no one ever answers or gets back to me ever. about ten years ago i decided i couldn't take it anymore, and i now go out of town, because i cannot stand the boom, boom, boom that every one of these speakers has talked about. it's absolutely horrible, and it starts wednesday night when they tune up, and then thursday night when they tune up again, and i just -- i can't take it. i have to leave town, and i shouldn't have to. i've lived here for over 50 years, and i should not have to leave my house because of a bunch of idiots that won't turn it down. i'm asking you, please, turn it down. thank you. >> president yee: next speaker. >> yeah, this is wholly speculation, but i think it might be possible that repetitive percussion could possibly induce vertigo in some elderly who might be tinnitus also. some music is intentionally
engineered to be transinducing beats, which some people really like to listen to, yeah, not too healthy if there's a lot of noise pollution. >> everybody said, ace, what the hell you getting up and saying? you don't stay nowhere near there, but i got something to say, because it's public comment, right? well, most of these people got up here, i'm about in their age range. i just made 65. i know i don't look that old, but let me just say this here, y'all got to understand this is the city by the bay. you talk about the boom, boom, boom, we're talking about money. this city really don't care about you if you ain't making no money. that's why it's the boom, boom, boom. i understand they have a ten-year contract in advance already, so that's boom, boom, boom. somebody making some big, big money. and all these politics in here, they are playing politics full of tricks, makes you turn to a
lunatic. you going to get dicked, oh, excuse me. that's policy in the city by the bay. i'm ace on the case, i'm here for another issue, but i was just amused by these individuals that don't look like me, but we're in the same age range, but if they had something like that in my community going on, they'd be doing the same thing. just give a good example where they closed down a club in the fillmore because they had a shooting and a death there, but it goes to show you the inequity of what's happening in the city by the bay. but regardless black or white, rich or poor, it's about the boom, boom, boom, the money they are going to make here in the city by the bay. $13 billion budget. ain't got to do with no blacks, just billion with a "b," my name is ace, damnit and i'm on the case. might have to talk to queen b about that, may not know that, queen b, london breed, we come
from the same community. my name is ace and i'm on the case, y'all. get ready for my new tv show, y'all. i'm going to tell you about that in a little bit. >> president yee: okay. are there any other members of the public that want to speak in support? seeing none, then public comment is now closed. now we will have up to ten minutes for representatives of the planning department to make their comments. >> good afternoon, president yee and members of the board. i'm chelsea fordham, principal environmental planner with the planning department. before you is an appeal of the categorical exemption issued for the use permit for the ten-year contract renewal of the outside lands music festival. the outside lands music festival use permit allows the annual three-day concert to be held at the western end of golden gate park. the use permit allows several
temporary facilities to be constructed for use during the concert, which are removed following the event. the use permit allows a maximum capacity of 75,000 attendees per day, and the permitted hours are 11:00 a.m. to 10:00 p.m. and 11:00 a.m. to 9:40 p.m. on sundays. amplified sound is allowed from noon to 10:00 p.m. and 9:40 on sundays. on january 17th, 2019, the planning department determined that the outside lands permit is categorically exempt from further environmental review under the california environmental quality act, or ceqa, because it meets the criteria of a class 4 exemption for minor temporary uses of land. the use permit has been approved by the recreation and parks department and will be heard by this board after this hearing if the board decides to uphold the department's determination. the decision before the board today is whether to uphold the
department's decision to issue this categorical exemption and deny the appeal or to return the project to the department for additional environmental review. in their appeal letter, the appellant stated they do not qualify for an exemption under ceqa. it's mentioned in the planning department's appeal response the project did, in fact, qualify for a class 4 exemption for a temporary use. subsequent to issuing the categorical exemption, the planning department determined that the proposed project also qualifies for a class 23 exemption, for which the facilities were designed and where there is a past history of the facility being used for that same or similar kind of purpose. determining if a project is exempt under ceqa does not mean that the department does not conduct an environmental
analysis. rather, the department first performs a screening to determine if the project fits within an exemption class. in this case, the project is -- the temporary use of land having n negligible use, because the festival uses temporary facilities set up and removed after the three-day period. restoration of the park to its pre-event conditions. the second step is for the department to determine if there are any exceptions that would disqualify the project from being categorically exempt. and one such exception is unusual circumstances associated with the project or its location that could result in a significant unavoidable impact on the environment. the analysis completed by the planning department shows that the project does not have any unusual circumstances that could result in a significant
environmental impact. thus the project qualifies for a categorical exemption and was, therefore, appropriately exempt from further review. the categorical exemption is consistent with their determinations for other events in san francisco with similar characteristics, events with amplified sound and large attendance are a common occurrence at the western end of golden gate park and such events have been held since at least 1968 in this location, such as hardly strictly bluegrass and l alice summer concert. sound near densely residential areas is not an unusual circumstance in a highly urbanized area such as san francisco. although the project would construct temporary small facilities within the coastal zone, these facilities would not result in any impacts to resources protected by the coastal zone. additionally, the use permit would not impact any of the historic resources within golden gate park, because the event is
temporary and fully reversible. in sum, the project meets the criteria of a class 4 and a class 23 categorical exemption and no exceptions applied to the proposed project. because the project -- because the department found no unusual circumstances associated with this project, ceqa does not require the department to consider whether the project would result in any significant impacts associated with unusual circumstances. nonetheless, the department reviewed the potential impacts from noise and transportation and we will describe why there is no significant noise and transportation impacts associated with this project. as discussed in our response letter, our evaluation of whether significant noise impacts would occur under ceqa is based upon several factors, including the existing ambient noise level, the noise level increased from the project, and the duration and intensity of noise levels.
the department acknowledges that the noise could be of an annoyance to the surrounding neighborhoods. nonetheless, this increase in noise would be a very limited duration of just three days annually. this increase is not considered a substantial noise increase under ceqa. the noise would generally not interfere with sleep, because the use permit requires amplified sound and by 10:00 p.m. the appellant also submitted a letter from the noise consultants stating the project does not comply with the regulations for noise. however, this was based on an incorrect interpretation of the noise ordinance, because the recreation and parks department are not subject to the police code. instead, the parks department has its own regulations regarding noise from events. regarding transportation impacts, the use permit requires that the temporary demand on transportation facilities are addressed by agency coordination
and a transportation management plan. therefore, significant transportation impacts would not occur. in conclusion, for the reason stated in our appeal response and the statements made at this hearing, the department continues to find that the ceqa determination complies with the requirements of ceqa, the categorical exemption is the appropriate environmental review determination, the appellant has not provided any substantial evidence that there is a reasonable possibility of a significant environmental impact due to unusual circumstances. therefore, the planning department requests that you please uphold the department's exemption and deny the appeal. this concludes my presentation. my colleagues, senior preservation planner and senior transportation available and i are available for any questions. thank you. >> president yee: okay, colleagues, are there any questions of the planning department? supervisor fewer in.
>> supervisor fewer: yes, thank you very much, president yee. i have a question. i wanted to know about other large events that we have in san francisco, such as the pride event at civic center. do they also have a ceqa categorical exemption? and do they have a numerical noise limit? >> we do analyze all temporary events if they have facilities associated with them, and we do issue several categorical exemptions. we issue categorical exemptions for events that occur on the port of san francisco land. we've also issued categorical exemptions for other temporary such uses throughout san francisco. >> supervisor fewer: thank you very much. and then also, we heard about a shoreline theater and that there is a numerical threshold for the shoreline theater. how is this different than that?
>> the examples provided by the appellant are for facilities that do have many events throughout the year. that's why in my response i'm describing the duration of such events, and for event facilities that have events multiple times per week, that is when the city will look at ceqa impacts from a substantial increase in noise levels. and that's also where the police code regulates the noise that is persistent and occurs either 24 hours a day or is occurring persistently throughout the city. >> supervisor fewer: thank you very much. i do have a question for rec and park, if you don't mind, president yee. >> president yee: sure. >> supervisor fewer: is there a representative from rec and park here? >> yes, supervisor fewer. >> supervisor fewer: yes, thank you very much. so much has been said about sharon meadows and the noise policy at sharon meadows.
can you tell me, and can you clarify how this outside lands is different? >> when the sharon meadows policy was adopted, it was meant to apply to an impact of sound that could occur every week on saturdays and sunday. we were having a great number of concerts in sharon meadows, and so our commission came forward and passed a policy that said to staff, you can continue to have these, if they meet this sound limitation. if you need to do something that exceeds it, you have to come back to us for a separate approval. and sharon meadows is a very small venue, relatively speaking, as well. >> supervisor fewer: so, are you actually saying to me, is it because that at sharon meadows it's a different venue, but also that these are events that happened almost every weekend or more frequently than once a
year? >> correct. the staff could do them every weekend under this limitation. >> supervisor fewer: and can you tell me now what is the procedure in place with regard to tracking responding to noise complaints? >> in general? >> supervisor fewer: for the outside lands concert, please. >> so for the outside lands concert, complaints are funneled in either if they come from 311 or elsewhere to the call center. they are immediately transcribed over to a dispatcher, and we have both park rangers and sound technicians out in the neighborhood who go to those locations and take measurements of the sound. the sound measurements are then relayed back to the sound board, so when we see trends that show a sign that sounds are higher, they make adjustments to the sound levels to try and get them down. so this particular year, and
when i do my presentation i'll talk about it a little bit, there was a blip up and we were working on finding out what was going down and to adjust things down. >> supervisor fewer: thank you very much. >> president yee: supervisor mar. >> supervisor mar: thank you, president yee. actually, i had a question for the staff. sound charts by the appellant and complaint data provided by the concert sponsor, even from some of the public testimony here today indicated that, you know, there are sound impacts from outside lands and the surrounding neighborhoods, including district 4, you know, so i just had a question, again, can you explain again the definition of a noise impact, where ceqa would apply for the outside lands? i'm sorry if you've already covered this, but i'm just trying to understand this, the
more specific sort of legal question on when ceqa would apply in terms of sound impact from outside lands. >> the question under ceqa regarding noise is, would the project result in the substantial increase in the ambient noise levels. substantial, we look at in many different ways, because noise is something that is experienced differently by different people, and we look at what's the increase -- what's the existing ambient noise levels, what's the increase that the project would result in, what's the duration of that activity, and those questions are based on primarily health impact definition, and so we do, you know, we do acknowledge in our appeal response that this three-day event is loud. it can be subjectively interpreted differently by different people, and it
definitely rises to annoyance, but it's not to the level that's going to be having a substantial permanent increase in the ambient noise levels. >> supervisor mar: thank you. and then i just had one other question. so in your presentation today and in the memo that dated march 25 you kind of explained how, you know, the planning department sees that the outside lands permit extension is exempt from ceqa based both on a class 4 exemption, as well as a class 23 exemption, so i guess my question is, is for our decision as a board today, do we need to sort of -- do we need to agree with you on both of those, or say we agree on one, but not the
other, then would that still be grounds to affirm the categorical exemption determination? >> through the chair of the environmental review office, we'll respond to that question. >> lisa gibson, environmental review officer for the president. supervisor mar, the answer to that question is, it's not necessary for the board to concur with our determination that the project is also exempt under class 23. it, as you indicated, we found it exempt under class 4 initially and the project does not need to be exempt under more than one category of exemption to qualify for a categorical exemption. >> supervisor mar: thank you. >> president yee: okay. thank you for your questions. i guess this is maybe a follow-up question that supervisor fewer had in regards
to the limitations or the sound cap on sharon meadows versus somewhere else. i guess my question is, what's the difference whether or not it's several days a week versus once a year? to me, logically, wouldn't it make sense that you have a sound level that makes sense for all concerts? >> through the chair, i would like to defer that question to the recreation and park department, because that's about how they issue their use permits for amplified sound. >> president yee: okay. would you like to come up? >> so, you know, we were working to compromise with the community around sharon meadow about the continuous impact, and, again, we've made exceptions to the
sharon meadows sound policy. it's set at a certain number of hours, we've gone back to the commission for exceptions to that. but that is an event, again, because it was every -- just like shoreline, it could be frequent weekends, we decided to -- we worked on finding a sound limitation, and it's a single meadow, it's typically a performer or two, one stage. the sharon meadows sound policy included other things. we have to face the stage a certain way, and a number of features just to avoid the every weekend on the community, as opposed to three days a year. >> president yee: and when you do have a waiver, provide a waiver to the limits, do you still -- i mean, do you still have numeric number?
>> we haven't actually waived the sound limits. it's a waiver of the number of hours, waiver of the way the stage is facing because of particular events. we haven't come back to them to need a waiver, but, you know, it is a venue that holds only 9,000 people, and it's very well defined. >> president yee: and then strictly bluegrass event has about four or five stages. >> we do not have a sound limit. it's similar to what we do here, but they don't hire sound technicians. we do have some park rangers in, in the neighborhoods that respond if we have concerns, so that we can get back to them that we're getting complaints. >> president yee: do you know whether or not that particular festival, they limit their own sounds through a certain decibel versus the other one? >> i do not believe that they do, no. >> president yee: and the
complaints from the strictly bluegrass is minimal? >> we do get complaints. it's a different type of music. it tends to be more bluegrass music, even though it's hardly simply, but we do get complaints about it depending on the performer. >> president yee: okay. supervisor peskin? >> supervisor peskin: thank you, president yee. ms. ketchum, this may or may not be ceqa related, may be -- coastal zone and the inapplicability of the cat 4 exemption, but presumably that's papered over well enough with the category 23 exemption, but my separate question is, insofar as the city of san francisco has a local coastal plan, do you as the lead agency apply for a coastal development permit for the city? >> for this event, no, we have
not. >> supervisor peskin: you might want to consult with your counsel to see whether or not you ought to do that pursuant to the coastal act. >> it's possible we do. >> supervisor, sarah madeline for the department. our understanding has been, and correct me if i'm mischaracterizing this, that there's a minor piece of the event set up that it's in the coastal zone. it is all back of the house, it is not public access, and, therefore, we have not applied for a coastal permit. >> supervisor peskin: might want to consult your local coastal plan and make sure you're playing by your own rules. >> president yee: anything else? supervisor peskin? >> supervisor peskin: no, sir. >> president yee: all righty. let's go to our project sponsor, real party of interest, to speak for ten minutes. ms. ketchum?
>> good afternoon, supervisors. dana ketchum, the director of property and permits at rec and park. i have a powerpoint, thank you. the purpose is to go over what the project is, a little bit of background, we entered into a use permit in 2009 to go through 2013. in 2012 we came back and extended it to 2021. that permit extension was approved unanimously by the board. today we're asking to extend it another ten years. we're asking for at this time, because you do have to plan three years in advance. where is it? it's in the -- i think all of you know, but it's in the golden gate park between the richmond and the sunset district in the western end, primarily on the polo field and hellman hollow, sites of numerous concerts, back
50 years ago and through today. the project has benefits to the city. the most recent economic impact report showed a $66 million impact to the city. it produces jobs, hotel nights, food and beverage, there's cultural benefits, over 100 musical acts, many local. 83 local restaurants get to highlight their items, and it was last year rated the top billboard music festival. this does a little more than that. it has sponsored outside lands works, which has given over $400,000 to local music and art associations and nonprofits. environmental benefits. this produces a 92% waste diversion. that is the top music festival in the world. we are a star that people try and follow to produce this, to have this tremendously good waste diversion for a large event. and neighborhood initiatives. we give back to the
neighborhoods. outside lands does. and that will be increasing to $50,000 per year to give back to the richmond and sunset neighborhoods. it's also benefited the department. for the last few years it has produced over $3 million annually to support our operations. that's gardeners, custodians, recreation professionals, and has really helped us to improve our services. in addition to that, they do a separate fundraiser that raises money for our scholarships. they fund the gardener in golden gate park and they cover all of our out-of-pocket expenses during the event. but we know it has an impact on the neighborhood, and we take that impact very seriously. it is part of the contract, and as part of the contract, we follow a recurring pattern every year. first, we plan for it. then, when it's during the event, we are ready to respond, and then after the event we say,
what could we do better next year, given what's changing? because every year things do change. let me talk about planning. we have pre-event meetings with the community. we work with multiple city agencies. everything from mta, to the police, to homeland security, to the fire department. we want an event that is both safe for those attending, and has as little an impact as possible on the neighborhoods. we establish a community hotline so people know where to call if there's an issue, and we send out mailers to residents nearby and advertisements in local newspapers so people know how to find the hotline. we hand out big "do not block driveway" signs and put them in libraries and all over, so that if anybody's concerned, they can put them on their house, and outside lands posts very clear signage so people know about road closures and can plan well in advance. how do we respond during the event? well, during the event, as we
talked about a little bit, people call into the hotline and sound monitors, both rec and park staff and independence monitors, respond to sound complaints and measure the decibel levels and also look at the impact of the bass, because that tends to be the more annoying part of the music, and we want to get those reports right back to the sound board and see, you know, what is triggering this, why are we getting spotted complaints, because san francisco, with the climate, the atmosphere, whether it's fog or clouds or wind, the sound bounces in different ways, literally from one hour to the next. we also put parking control officers and tow trucks around the park so that we can quickly respond if a neighbor has a problem, and we also place clean-up crews in the neighborhood to respond if there's an incident after -- as people are leaving. how do we improve? well, every year we look back
and say, what could we do better to improve it? it started in 2012 and 2014, there were concerns about park protection, securing and protecting trees, so we actually put more crowd protection in and actually fenced off our trees. our goal is that in a week the park is reopen, beautiful and green, like you would never know that an event had happened. there's a number of other things, but one of the most recent issues has been uber and lyft. we, you know, traditionally the issue was people blocking driveways. well, starting three years ago we started getting complaints that there are cars circling and circling the neighborhoods, so we had to take something to address it, and we've been asking a task force with mta, brought uber and lyft in and found good solutions, so every year we work to do things, and this next year, because of the increase in sound complaints, we
actually are doing a sound summit. let me talk about the two issues that have been kind of the most -- the ones we care most about, because we know it has such a big impact on the neighbors. the first is noise impact. so the 2012 amendment imposed new requirements, and this was after many long meetings and discussions with the community, and those requirements continue in this new one, new agreement, and that is that they must use commercially reasonable best efforts to limit sound to the concert grounds. that's what the sound measures are doing. they have to review the sound system plans in advance of the festival each year to minimize the sound impact and to assure that it could be modified to respond to sound complaints. and then there's a live response to sound complaints, and i personally can tell you i've sat in that room and watched the sound responses come in, get relayed, and then the
measurements come back in. another thing that was done starting in 2012 is there was new technology, so delay towers were installed, so instead of one big set of speakers that blast sound to cover the whole polo field, there's multiple speakers at a lower level. we're always looking for improvements. let's talk about the noise complaints. so, as you can see in 2011 we were at 384. they reduced over 80% to 46. that's three days with 40,000 nearby neighbors and households. those were the complaints. unfortunately, in 2017 a little bit and in 2018, the sound spiked. not something we wanted to see. it was particularly in the sunset, we were trying to identify what was creating this movement, and we worked really hard to adjust speakers so that by -- we went from 118
complaints on friday down to 31 on sunday, but that's not enough. so outside lands has hired a sound consultant to further study it this year. there's new technology. we're going to be building a 3d model and measuring the sound as it comes in, in that model, to try and make further improvements. and the 2019 amendment that's going to be before you does a few other things. it mandates a minimum number of sound monitors and requires them to be increased if they are not responsive enough, and it actually requires them to give us a report afterwards of what adjustments were actually made, so that when questions come in saying you don't know they did anything, we'll have a report that shows exactly what they did. the other thing is traffic impacts. as you can see, we did really well, going from 65 down to five in 2016. it bumped up. again, i think it was the ubers and lyft. it's down to 16 traffic complaints we got over three days, and we talked a little bit
about what we've done with uber and lyft to improve that. we're continuing to work on it. so what does the amendment do? it extends the expiration through 2031. most of the other changes in terms of the department are focussed on cost of living increase. the rent is moving up, because we do include this in our budget and we want to make sure we're covered in case something adverse happened. but everything else is cost of living. but we also impact the neighborhoods, and the new amendment makes the number of improvements. local hire, there will be at least one fair in the richmond district. community outreach, there will now be a meeting immediately after the event, as well as before. we've expanded the hotline hours to include sound check, which happens thursday, and the number of sound monitors.
and we've increased the community benefit funds. we have had an extensive -- >> president yee: time's up. thank you very much. any questions from colleagues? okay. and by now, if there's any public comments in favor of the project or against the appeal, please come on up. you have two minutes. >> good afternoon, president yee, good afternoon, supervisors. my name is nick balani and i'm in favor of outside lands. i've been helping them for 12 years now, dealing with the public in the richmond district. we've always had a great relationship working back and forth. it's been great. but what i really want to talk about today, for you guys to pass this, is something i heard
over the weekend. i was up at the sonoma film festival and talked to somebody about outside lands, and he said this is the best of san francisco. this shows off the best of san francisco, and it does. it shows off our music, our food, our entertainment, our friendship. i see it every day of the concert, as people walk up my hill. i live on 30th and balboa. i see people walk up, with the joy that they get. i got to bring my parents to the polo fields to see paul mccartney, one of their favorites, on the same fields that i played soccer on as a child. they had to sit through the fog, the rain. we all know how it gets out there. they had to sit through that, yet i got to take them to see one of their favorites on their fields. that is the best of san francisco, families and stuff like that. so when we talk about this concert, we do talk about what is best, what is the best of san francisco. this is. thank you. >> president yee: thank you. next speaker.
>> hi there, everyone. my name is dave muller, i'm a local resident of only 15 years in the outer sunset, also a business owner. and i'm also a musician, who has the great fortune of actually getting to play in my very local sunset band at outside lands this year for the first time. we're really excited about. all of us live in either the outer richmond or sunset, which is super cool. i had a lot of good things to say about this festival, but based on the discussion specific to this argument, i want to mention a few things. about urban living that i've encountered, which has a lot of noise in general. we're all aware of that. we live in a city. the outer sunset is blessed with being quiet most of the year, but i will definitely say that things like fleet week, which is cool for the kids and stuff, is painful and terrifying in a way that outside lands has never been to my children. i've brought them into the festival and am extremely
protective of their hearing and my own hearing and never felt anything to be dangerous. i think that another planet is extremely responsible with the way they impact their environment, and i, as you can see with that last presentation, there's a ton of information that they are taking into account. i think that there's a lot of noise issues we run into all the time. i have construction happening in front of my business in hours into the night, up to 10:00, that i have no power over whatsoever. so these are the kinds of points, i think, that are relevant to this discussion. i think it's a fabulous festival, and i think that does a lot of people had things to say about that, so i don't think you're going to have any shortage of that, so i don't have anything else to say about this. thank you. >> president yee: thank you. next speaker. >> hi, my name's andy olive. thanks for putting this together and taking the time to listen to us, guys. there's been pretty cool points
on both sides. we do live in san francisco. it's probably the most popular city in the world right now, and it's going to be pretty noisy at times. both pretty noisy out in the outer sunset, fleet week's pretty loud. i kind of think that outside lands has brought the world's attention to san francisco. we get -- i have a restaurant out in 47th and irving, and during the festival and the week leading up to it, we have a huge multicultural community come in and visit us from europe, japan, all through asia, just for outside lands, and it's really cool to be able to showcase, you know, what we have in the outer sunset to the world. and then as far as, like, the noise goes during our hours of operation, we're not really affected by it. we're not, like, yelling out orders, we're not going crazy. we feel that it brings a lot of good vibes to the outer sunset, and i think in the past, ever
since day one, another planet has been attentive to the needs of the people out there, because those are the permanent people, the residents, and another planet has been attentive year after year, and as far as i'm concerned having lived there my whole life and having operated businesses both inside the festival and outside now, i feel like it's only getting better year by year, so i'm looking forward to seeing how it continues to improve and looking forward to one day bringing my kids out to the polo fields and rocking out. so thanks again, you guys. >> president yee: okay, next speaker. >> hi. my name's skylar beatcroft. i'm a resident of the outer sunset. i live two blocks from golden gate park. i'm also an art director headquartered in the outer sunset with our flagship located one block from golden gate park. every year we experience an
influx of visitors is during outside lands dates, which directly and positively influences our business, as well as our neighboring businesses, who many of them are currently here. i'm sure we're all aware of the non-san francisco residential demographic attending this event. new customers flood our san francisco location during this event and return to their communities with a unique experience to share. from their friends and family of these new customers have a chance to embrace the experience through our e-commerce platform. this trickle-down business model begins with one new walk-in and outside lands brings hundreds of thousands of this type of contact to our front door every year. we've been a word of mouth business since our inception of 2005 and outside lands helps
continue that notion every year, and i'm sure we'll continue to in the coming years. i personally visited san francisco my first time over an outside lands weekend with my family, and those experiences really helped shape my decision to become part of this community, so i support the outside lands permit extension, personally and professionally. thank you. >> president yee: next speaker. >> hello. my name is jason hancock. i've been a resident of the central sunset and central richmond for more than 20 years. and so i've seen the evolution of the outside lands music festival as a resident and also an occasional participant, and i can say that every single year it has improved. they've gotten better at
traffic, noise, litter, the cleanup. i can literally take my kids and my dog back to the park days after the festival, and you cannot tell it's there. that park and rec mentioned is absolutely true. i also believe that, you know, i have two young kids, a 2 year old and a 5 year old, and over the last 12 years or whatever it's been, my kids have never once been woken up by the noise of the music festival. in fact, it's gotten to the point where we even take them now. like, the family programming at the festival has become a very family-oriented event, and that's something that we really appreciate. the one other thing i owe to my elementary school, argan elementary, is as parents at that school, we raised $200,000 every year to cover the education costs of the 400 kids that go there. that funds three teachers. and we could not raise that
money without the outside lands festival and hardly strictly bluegrass because of the tickets they donate to the auction and parking they sell to the school. so just want to voice my loud support for the event. thank you. >> president yee: thank you. next speaker. >> hello. my name is lisa. i'm a mom, a teacher, and a music lover. [ please stand by ]
>> i'm lauren gottfried and a resident of san francisco and began when the event began and it's my favorite of the year. i've been to many music festivals around the world an never been one to where i felt safer and more cared for. it's bizarrely well organized down to the porta potties. i only missed one year because i had a baby and had to be home with him and he slept through it and i live close enough to ride my bike to the issues along the panhandle. i'm in full support and we need to support cultural events such as these in san francisco. >> commissioner: thank you. next speaker, please.
>> i'm douglas taylor employed by another planet as one of the many stage hands at outside lands. i'm also among one of the 700 employees it take on every years it's a continuation of the history of rock 'n roll in san francisco since 1968 and put for instance on the map once again. i worked many festivals on the west coast and east coast as a stage hand. i can say and the way they handle the trash and porta potties it deals with complaint and issues people have to deal with. they're very proactive. i am in support of the continuation of the outside lands. thank you. >> thank you.
>> my band played last year and gained international press from billboard magazine and help my career and help me stay in san francisco. i think it's really awesome that everyone's entertaining 190 noise complaints with all the awesome cultural magnet that outside lands is. it's a great to have this forum
for everyone to be heard. thank you, guys. >> thank you, next speaker. >> supervisors. my name is walker allen. i've been an s.f. resident since 2009 and i live up the hill from the concert about two and a half miles. i'm willing the mother of a rising kin der gart -- kindergartner and i'm here to show my support and festivalgoer and resident within ear shot. i do not consider the noise levels to be offensive. i enjoy the bands coming into my open windows during the summer. the noise for me is part of the culture that enriches the city why i live here a privilege to bike to an event with names such as muse and fish and paul simon in our city. if you want a life without noise
without respectful celebration that adhere to curfews i would say a city life is not for you especially a city like san francisco rich in lower and i think this why we all put up with the cost of living here and fleet week is an excellent example. it's extremely loud. finally, my business sees a boost during outside lands and is a boost in critical sales. thank you for your consideration. >> next speaker. >> i'm stephanie goodman a 15-year resident and live at 2030 south street about a mile from the heart of outside lands. and i feel really grateful and believed to have the opportunity to live just down the street from such an incredible cultural experience. i've lived there for 15 years. i'm here to express my fervent
support of this festival. my opinion is the benefits of the fest and the way it's operationalized far outweigh the costs presented earlier today. the festival's consistently well run with operational excellence. it offers a family-friendly fun activity that creates community and brings together a diverse group of people from all over the country and even internationally. it's an amazing opportunity for san francisco residents to come together on common grounds to enjoy the park that they share together in a fun and safe and healthy way. and i think it's interesting that despite the noise complaint we've heard today the festival is over at 10:00 p.m. i can be home in bed if i want to be by 10:po -- 10:30 with no issues. i've never experienced any negative affects nor do members of my community. it shuts down pretty early
considering how other events and it's kick and efficient. i live on the park and jog in the park and the day after the park it's almost as if it was never there. i could go on and cite lists of things that bother me in terms of noise and traffic in the city but those are the costs of being an urban dweller and they generally have no benefits so i think you could take into consideration the awesomeness the festival gives to our city. >> thank you, next speaker. >> my name is bb rutledge. i've been a teamster 50 years. i'm fortunate enough to work for another planet. a very professional organization. they've done a lot of to improve whatever needed to be corrected. i support the continuation of what's going on here and i
appreciate them having me working for them and an appreciate the time you've given me. thank you so much. >> thank you. next speaker. >> my name is steve ward. i'm a native son of san francisco and raised in north beach but i spent the last 30 years out in the outer sunset in a neighborhood we know as la playa park village. the beach village of san francisco. we've been working over the last 15 years to improve our community. i'd like to say outside land is giving us a benefit of their involvement. we need their support to do beautification and improve the quality of life for all of our residents and commercial
corridor. so we're parked there at the corner with the golden gate park being the northern border. ocean beach being our western border and following up the judea street corridor up to sunset. that's about where our neighborhood is generally located. i hope you will extend the least to another planet. and i know how important it is to have that extension to know what you'll be doing to be able to plan. i think we can have a compromise. i know they're working on the noise problem and an empathize with the neighbors having the problem. i think all this could be worked out in the future and i hope you will. thank you very much. >> thank you. next speaker. >> troy brownfield.
we need to keep it going for the fact that if it weren't for my fellow unions. we need to work. >> thank you, next speaker. >> everyone from the custodians and stage hands and it's good for the city. i just think it it's also a good boost to all the local merchants in the area. thank you. >> any other comments? seeing none public comment is now closed. okay. lastly, we'll invite the appellant to present a rebuttal
argument. you'll have up to three minutes. >> thank you, members of the board. first off, i'd like to thank my may neighbors and i live in west portal and we all want a good concert. we don't want to shut it down. we want to continue the good jobs and tax revenues coming into the city. we just want a noise policy that's enforcement and enforceable and president yee hit it on the head when he said to have a noise policy for concerts in the park. i still haven't heard a good answer. we heard sharon has a numerical noise limit. that's because they have concerts every week. they don't. i drive by and they don't have concerts every week. sum ser once a year. now and then is once a year. that's what they have at sharon
meadows. that policy could simply be aplid to the entire park, 102 decibels instantaneous limit. if outside lands thinks it needs to be higher, fine. we heard staff say they have a sound problem. 2018 was a mess. the noise complaints staff. staff said they're doing a noise analysis. they'll do 3-d mapping and hired a noise consultant. that's great. that's what ceqa is for. do it in a ceqa process, have the consultants do it in a transparent way where the whole public can participate in the mitigation measures and at the end of the day you have enforceable mitigation measures under ceqa. that's what we're asking for and there's plenty of time. the existing contract goes to 2021. a mitigated process can be done
in six to eight months and we'd have enforceable mitigation measures. maybe it would look like sharon meadows policy, maybe different. that's a great policy. charles salter came up with it, an acous -- acoustical engineer and the public can participate and the staff can participation and we'd have legally anniversariable mitigation plan and most importantly the concert can go on and all these people who love the concert, enjoy the concert can continue to love it but it will have reasonable sound levels that won't annoy as staff has admitted, it annoys the neighbors. that's the significant impact under ceqa and it ought to be addressed. thank you. i'd be happy to take any
question. >> okay. thank you for your presentation and there's no questions. this public hearing item 27 has been held and is now closed. we now reconvene as the board of supervisors. colleagues, we now have items 28, 29 and 30 before us. supervisor fewer, do you have any final remarks? >> i want to thank my colleagues more taking the hearing into consideration. i'd like to make a motion for a vote to approve item 28, table items 29 and 30. >> a motion made. is there a second? >> seconded by supervisor safai. can we take this same house, same call? seeing no objection, item 28 is approved and items 29 and 30 are tabled.
colleagues, meets determination of exemption is afired. -- affirmed. >> item 31 say resolution to approve and authorize a second amendment to the existing permit with another planet entertainment for the production of the annual outside lands festival to extend to 2031 and modify permissions related to the fee, outreach and other similar matters and to affirm the ceqa determination. >> supervisor fewer thank you, president yee. colleagues i want to say and to my constituents and to the people and