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but the fact is, those are some of the constraints that we are currently operating under. and closely related to that is, as you just had the nice ceremony for jerry murphy, we have about 50% of the staff currently eligible for in a few years will be eligible for retirement. so, the point of these numbers is to give you a sense of what the work load obligations are at treasure island, and how those compare to the resource base the wastewater enterprise has, and our priorities in terms of utilizing resources across all the other priorities and programs that the utility is responsible for. >> quick question? the conveyance from the feds to the city, did that not include conveying the wastewater system? why do we still have a contract-based relationship.
>> the utilities were never built to our standard. they were built by the navy so conveyed to tida, never be conveyed to the p.u.c. so we cannot use our rate payers. >> we are a contractor out there to tida, and tida has the relationship with the u.s. navy and we are not accepting their infrastructure. >> and we never will. >> we never will. the permit is actually still held by the u.s. navy. so we are literally just a contractor there. that's for all the utilities, water, wastewater and power. >> they could not issue the contract to somebody else, right? >> we have actually, the contract to operate on the island? i mean, tida could, but we have been out there since the island was turned over to the city for development. what we were expecting was a very short time frame before the developer would develop the island. it's now been 18 years, something around there. >> been a long time. >> been a long time.
so, they are out there now, they are on yerba buena island, they are moving down into treasure island fairly soon, and we just, we see the long sort of like build-out, it's going to take some time. the treatment plant is key to the development of the island because the existing plant takes too many resources from us and too many resources from tida, so actually moving forward with the replacement of the treatment plant is in our best interest at this point in time. >> i'm just wondering if it's soul-source contract or some issue down the road, i mean, who knows if relationships sour, that they have the option. >> right. >> to go out to bid. doesn't sound like that's in play. >> not at this time. >> ok. thank you. >> good segue. so, tom birmingham, the project manager for the new wastewater plant. i'll talk about the development going on out there, and the proposed new treatment plant.
a bit of good news, so the development is a massive 10 to 15, maybe 20-year development. they are rebuilding essentially the entire island, aside from the job corps. all the utilities above and below ground are going to be replaced. that means every water pipe, wastewater pipe, power line will be replaced on the island with new infrastructure that will eventually be accepted by the p.u.c. however, it is a long, very complicated project, you know. while this is all going on, you know, we have 1800 homes on the northern part of the island we have to maintain service to through tida. >> the development is for up to 8,000 new homes, which is 18 to 20,000 people, so it is a big development. includes 300 acres of open space. a new, three new hotels going on
the island and y.b.i., rooms, up to 500 rooms going on the island. work started last year on y.b.i., building the new residential units and treasure island right now, they are doing the geo technical improvements and will start building homes next year, and looking to have 2100 new homes built in the next five years. continue going until 2035 to 2040. one challenge we are learning with developments is that it is market driven, so things could go quicker, things could go slower. so, we are being as flexible as possible. the new treatment plant is going to be located on the northeast corner of the island. in red you can see the area that we are looking at for the new plant. and in yellow is the existing plant. so, the new plant will be located in the red, in the future part of the agreement we have with tida, transfer of
additional 4 to 6 acres. whether or not that is the existing plant or a parcel to the south or west is yet to be determined. right now we are going to wait until we see what our needs are going into the future. this is a very high level concept of what we are considering for our treatment plant. the gray infrastructure what you see in the white and black boxes and the green and wetlands is what we are considering that will surround the plant. again, high level but this gives idea of what we are considering going forward for the plant. we have completed the a.r., we are in the conceptual report now. some of the conclusions we reached in the a.r. a plant of 1.3 mgd, it's a tiny plant compared to what you are
used to hearing about in the southeast and ocean side, peak flow is 3.9. average recycled water is around half m.g.d., peak up to 1m.g.d. decided to go with the membrane bio reactor with the process, for bio solids at this point it does not make sense to do on island treatment for the bio solids, so going to reserves and space for the future. but for now, haul to one of the existing plants until the development gets larger. right now there are not enough people producing enough solids to make it worthwhile. and as far as the wetlands, we are considering these wetlands a hydraulic retention wetland system so we can store water and then we'll discharge through an existing storm water pipe. provide a habitat for wildlife, provide a recreation area for people, for trails, but as far as the treatment goes, it's
really providing a storage area for this water. all the water we'll be producing is title 22, disinfected, no contact restrictions. so if people are walking around the wetlands, you can touch the water without fear. it's not drinking water but you can touch it. we are also looking at this new plant requiring about 3 to 5 f.t.e.s to staff it. as opposed to what greg mentioned earlier, over ten f.t.e.s right now. hand it back to greg. >> ok. so, in looking at the options the p.c. has for delivery of the new infrastructure out there, we thought it was important to start with what our long-term objectives are for what a successful outcome looks like out there at treasure island, and that's what you see here,
pretty straightforward. we want to provide efficient reliable service for both wastewater treatment and water recycling to the new treasure island community. we want to do that in a way that with all the other activity that's going on out there over the next 10 to 15 years, allows us to meet all of our milestone commitments to the developer and the rest of again the key activity that's happening out there because the development will occur in large blocks over the next decade to 15 years. very importantly to the earlier points, we want to do that in a way that leverages our limited staff capacity and our capital project delivery capacity. recognizing that we already have multi-billion dollar capital program underway. that's going to be going on for the next 5 to 10 years, and we are operating in a backdrop of a fairly severe staffing shortage. and lastly, we want to do it in a way that maximizes the
transfer of risk as this project unfolds because it's occurring in the middle of a very complicated site with a lot of history going back 50 plus years as a military base. so, risk transfer is not the primary goal but it's a secondary benefit we think, or a secondary objective of the project delivery. so the range of options for the delivery methods, the same ones you have seen before, standard, design build, etc., recently been starting some new delivery methods that are relatively new to the p.u.c., but becoming more and more common throughout the utility industry. so, d.b.o., design-build-operate. so essentially complete turnkey set of services. team that gets selected does what it sound like, do the design, secure the permits, they build, they operate that system
to the requirements and the specifications, performance, regulatory and otherwise that are spelled out in that contract. so, that's essentially what makes up the d.b.o. and the reason in this case we went through a lot of internal discussions about the pros and cons of the different delivery methods. and looked at the objectives and what success looks like for that delivery over the next 5 to 10 years, and what the options are, the design-build-operate looked like the best choice to staff. the reasons summarizing here, single entity point of contact for the entirety of this process over the next decade. and that ensures cost efficiency and capital efficiency. we have guaranteed pricing through the d.b.o. contract, and we have performance-driven technical requirements that can be built into the contract as well. we minimize the risk associated with the p.u.c. in terms of all of the various regulatory
compliance requirements that come with the new facility. and lastly, and again in my professional view, somewhere near the top in terms of considerations, allows us to concentrate our limited resources on the systems that are serving the, you know, million people of the city of san francisco as opposed to allocating those limited resources to a fairly small portion of our service area. so, that is the recommendation, approve the delivery method, design-build-operate, authorize the general manager to seek approval by ordinance and the board of supervisors for the delivery method. now, this is very much just the beginning of the process. there are a number of very important conversations that need to take place with stakeholders that relate to this whole thing, and as you see here, the schedule that takes us through the latter part of this calendar year before we are
issuing a request for proposals. based on what we know today, we are expecting from general interest, we think there's at least 4 to 5 qualified teams out there that would be responsive to an r.f.p. of this type, but that will, of course, remain to be seen should the process go forward. and lastly, the construction estimate for the plant is about $130 million. i'll let tom and others comment. but when you look at the total value of the contract, somewhat higher than that. and so with that, we'll be happy to answer any questions. >> does tida have a role in approving, selecting the d.b.o. contract? >> they are a stakeholder, not going to have a role, but they do finance the existing collection systems out there.
so what will happen, p.u.c. will pay for the operation and the maintenance of the new facility and any utility that's accepted, tida is responsible for funding o and m. it's going to get more difficult in the future, a mix of new and existing utilities on the island. >> right. >> i have several questions. i have not paid a lot of attention to this in a while, and my suspicion is that other parts of the city may not have either. but it comes back to us and all those questions come up. first question has to do with the project fa sus at the moment. the environmental review was complete in 2011, is that right? >> for the development? >> yes. >> yes. >> and that included elements of
wastewater treatment within that. >> correct. >> and in that they talked about us developing a master water system plan and a master recycled water plan. where are those in process? >> so, last week we finished the ceqa review with city planning, note to file, so went to city planning, tida and the departmental staff, to questions, note to file. they found that the proposed project is very close to what was done in 2011, included in that ceqa. so they approved this project going forward as note to file. >> they reviewed what we are proposing. >> and i think i also read that
one of the next steps, conceptual report. >> doing right now. >> will come up with a spec in essence for the project. >> bridging documents will then go into an r.f.p. if we go forward with the design-build-operate. >> alternative analysis report, 10% design. engineering, 35% design and part of the r.f.q., r.f.p. process. >> thank you. and wastewater treatment and some recycling? >> yes, so the proposed plant, every drop of water that goes through will go through the membrane bioreactor. the plant is so small, made sense to do a single stream.
so all the water produced recycl recycled water quality. we can take every water drop from the plant. >> collection system in the scope of this as well? >> built and financed by the developer. this treatment plant is the only item on the island that's actually being built and paid for by the p.u.c. what we are proposing is build the plant, and once we accept it, the d.b.o. operator will operate the collection system, includes the existing and new. we can fully remove wastewater enterprise from the island and reallocate to other projects. >> part of the r.f.q. -- >> from the time of, as the plant starts we will include the collection system. >> and how does this fit in with an overall plan for utilities on
the island? i'm thinking we have the wastewater, we have drinking water, we have electric, there is some gas out there that somebody, pg&e is doing that. >> right now we are -- we are operating the gas system out there as well as the under contract. we are -- we, the p.u.c. is operating the gas system under contract with tida. >> so within the three services that we are providing and intending to continue to provide, is there a vision as to how they met together? >> yes. there's a master utility plan the developer has submitted to the city. we get to review that, we get to comment on it, and once that is done and vetted with all the city departments, that's what they are building. those are the specification that goes into their construction documents. right now we operate water,
wastewater, power, energy, and gas. there is no decision yet on, you know, the gas element. i want to make sure you understand that of who would operate that in the future. right now we are the operator of that. so, the old and new fitting together is a big issue and we are working on that, and especially when we talk about location of the wastewater plant, also might be where the substation goes for the electric service, and so trying to fit all the utilities together. and as a build, we will go through the city acceptance process of accepting the entire sandwich as we call it, the street and all the utilities underneath the street. >> i ask because it seems like basically developing utilities for an island has some challenges, also some opportunities there, and i don't know if it's established any overall goals, you know, in terms of carbon footprint or,
you know, related issues, removal of all gasses as a carbon measure. staffing issues, you know, how do you locate, manage and deploy staff, not just for this facility, but for others as a whole. is that part of this utility plan? >> part of the utility plan includes, or part of our development agreement with the developer is the additional lands that will be dedicated to the p.u.c., we have the wastewater treatment plant and how do we have the corporate yard, and we are discussing with the developer as they locate different phases of their developments. the issue here is more that we will have people living on that island as it's being developed and they need to, we need to provide them services, and so we
are going to have a lot of like old into new for some time, and there's just a lot of risk associated with that. >> understand that. one request that i would have is that as these various efforts proceed with the utility plan and the conceptual engineering report, a lot of interest that this commission has in what that product ends up looking like, both from a utility service standpoint and also from our impact standpoint, not in the legal ceqa sense but how good stewards are we of the environment. so, i would ask staff to find opportunities for this commission to be involved in those discussions as we go forward. other questions have to do with really the subject of this item, which is fairly narrow as i read
it, and that is to approve of the use of a c.b.o. technique, and as i look at that, what's unusual about it, i guess what part of it that requires board of supervisors action is the o. part. the operating part of it. and my first reaction this is what we do all the time. so why are we contracting it out and i think you have discussed some of the reasons for that. part of my concern, though, is -- do we do, do we contract operations anywhere else? in the utility? i can't think of one. >> i don't think so at this point, no. >> there are some issues around that that are important, and not included in this action, but i want to talk about them anyway and see what that demands going
forward. part of that is the length of term of the operating part of it, and i see that it's ten years with five optional add-ons. so without penalty, we could terminate at the end of ten years, earlier with some penalty. and then we had the opportunity to reup for two five-year increments. i would hope the development on the island has sufficiently progressed in ten years' time that we would be able to take that on, and not have to continue the contract. that's why for the 20-year contract i would have real problems. if it's a ten with two five's it can work. the other is one of labor representation and our workforce development efforts.
what are we able to do with a contractor to make sure that -- what i hope, jumping to the end, what my hope would be is that whatever process of staff development and training and supervision is taking place out there to be fully integrated with job development activities and that there would be a very clear path, even within the term of ten years for somebody who has been fully certified to operate on that, could become a city employee in some way. that's my wish. how -- how do we do that in a way that comports with -- >> a couple of items. first of all, to step back a little bit to your comments about what is the nature of the facility that we end up with out there, since it's not going through a complete design and also in terms of environmental footprint or metric such as
carbon footprint, etc., that may be important to the city. tom, i think used the term bridging documents earlier and we alluded to the fact what's different about this delivery method, we take it to about the 30% design and then it gets turned over into more of a complete set of contract documents that emphasize performance outcomes rather than prescriptive pieces of equipment and layout. what that means, we have every opportunity between now and the issuance of the r.f.p. to think about what types of outcomes are important to the city. so whether that's maximizing energy efficiency or minimizing carbon footprint, two sides of the same coin, whether it's making allowances for specific access for staff training opportunities, those are all areas that we have the opportunity to develop and put into the contract bridging documents that the parties responding would be taking into account and obligated to provide.
>> i guess this is a question for the city attorney. are there restrictions how we can do that? if we want to say the city and the utilities uses classifications represented by -- we want you to use the same unions, that labor workforce development programs that we have are aimed at preparing people for both public and private employment, and we want those programs to have access to these jobs as well as others. how do we make that happen? >> i think one way you've done that in the past is by putting particular projects under the p.u.c. existing p.l.a. >> okay. >> that would be an option for this contract, which the commission could approve, adding this contract to the p.l.a.
and that would then go into the r.f.p. >> am i correct, typically we don't get to do that when we are awarding contracts. p.l.a. -- we don't have contracts that say you will be part of local 38. >> the p.l.a., i'm, i would defer to staff on the details what the p.l.a. says. generally requires the use of union labor. >> right. >> i don't know the specificity about the local. >> i think we have to build in that language right now the p.l.a. is only for construction and does not deal with operations. >> ok. >> can i ask, add one other thing. so, we are looking at the facility not just for people to come in and operate it, but a training facility for our own people. a lot of these types of small plants are actually going into a
lot of developments in san francisco over the next 10 to 15 years, and we are going to have to create a strike team that knows how to operate these smaller plants, and this is a good opportunity to have like a training facility where we can put in the contract that they have to train our people and how to operate these types of facilities going forward in the future. so we don't have just a need for the small plant on treasure island, we have a need for a lot of the new developments in san francisco that will have plants of this size going in that we are negotiating, whether or not we are going to accept them and run them in the future. >> yeah, and i was wondering, even if they are just package plants, that would be available. but that's -- >> right. >> that's not what i'm primarily interested in. i guess the -- this item itself is fairly narrow.
it says we want to use and we want to pursue a variance of the board of supervisors so we can use this kind of contract. i'm fine with that. but i want to make sure is that as we go down that road, assuming we get the variance, and we do the overall design, that we are -- we, p.u.c. staff and the commission itself are able to make sure that is consistent with our environmental objectives, the one water policy that we have adopted and take advantage of opportunities that are really pretty unusual starting from scratch for all of it to come up with a small community to design and build and run the way we think a community should be in this day and age. so, i would want to make sure that this commission is involved in the review and approval of
those designs at a point when they can still influence things. and we don't typically approve r.f.p.s. i think something prior to an r.f.p. would be appropriate for us to review in this case. it's kind of unusual. and also to deal with the various labor issues throughout there. because it's important to us, it's important to the city, and we need to make sure we find out how we can do that, and matter of changing the p.l.a. for operating positions, i don't know what bucket of snakes that is, but if that's what it takes to get it down we should be thinking about it and talking to people about it. so i want to make sure as we go down this path that we have review and approval opportunities and they don't just sort of go on. >> i would like to echo
particularly environmental components to see if we really could use that as a test bed. i know a lot of conversations over the years and sustaining planning in 2011 was done, which was probably the last time we even talked about this in-depth. as well as, i think it was also slated to be a clinton net 0 site at some point, and c40 has done work looking at treasure island, the same reasons lifted up, that it's a brand-new development and a lot of opportunity to showcase some of the work, not only at the p.u.c. but happening in other places and to look at water and energy and the things that are sweet spots, and also what does the carbon footprint look like, green infrastructure, sea level rise, resilient strategy be. so, what could be some key components that we could put into the r.f.p. to attract some of these great thinkers and
doers around environmental resiliency and climate resiliency. >> we are putting out the design guidelines put out by tida for the project, and i agree. >> we do know somebody on the -- >> on tida? >> on tida. some familiarity. >> stakeholder that we can bring in. >> there may be some opportunities for some real collaboration there. >> yeah. >> i would like to move the item. >> i'll second. >> president caen: public comments on this item. all those in favor? opposed? certainly had quite a bit of input. next item, please.
>> item 15, approve a form allowing cleanpowersf customers to receive supergreen 100% renewable energy service under a multi-year service agreement. >> utility specialist with cleanpowersf, here to request your approval of a form agreement to allow cleanpowersf customers to enter multi-year green service. primary goal enable large commercial customers to enter into the agreement, but anticipate the agreement could be used more broadly for my customer who wants to demonstrate a commitment through green power and cleanpowersf. a little background. lead as you probably know is a
widely used building certification system for green buildings. administered by the green building council and the latest version, v4, includes a green power and carbon offset category, allows up to two points to use 100% renewable green power, carbon offsets to cover a project's energy use. if you choose power, must be green certified and all the power within that mix should come online. cleanpowersf meets the requirements and they wondered if we could have an agreement to get the green points for new projects for services they are already getting. so the agreement presented to you today replaces our standard month to month service with the multi-year commitment. it offers no special pricing or cost protections, it's simply a term of 1 to 5 years that the customers select and upon
completion of the term, return to the normal super green service. should the customer terminate early, we have structured a one-time fee that varies by rate class and is equal to one month average super green premium. we see this agreement as a really easy way to offer benefits to both customers and the cleanpowersf program. potentially adding additional value to the super green service they have, and for cleanpowersf, a good way to promote super green service, customer retention and satisfaction. there's little additional cost or administrative burden to offering this sort of agreement. and finally, we see this agreement as really laying a foundation for future product offerings. we are considering agreements that would be tied to specific renewable energy projects or ones that would offer special rates, and those agreements would have different terms and would be presented to the commission at that time, but we see this as a step in that
direction and a straightforward agreement that allows us to provide some real value to customers asking for it. so with that, thank you, i'll take any questions. >> a couple. the lead requirement to get the couple points is about a five-year commitment? >> yes. >> for power? >> commissioner moran: looking at the agreement for the termination provisions, i understand the logic behind them, they look fairly gentle. and that a person, if they were not acting in good faith, could sign up for five years and then after they got their certification could say well, never mind. and the price for that would not be very high. so, and that would primarily be a lead concern, i would think. on the other hand, i don't want us offering a product that ends up being a sham. so, what i'm trying to figure out is if there is a way that we
can either time limit this program or, and basically monitor any kind of termination history that we have, and give us the opportunity if it looks as though people are exiting prematurely, that we can change the offering in an appropriate way. within this program as it's laid out, is that something that would be subject to review and revision as far as new offerings of contracts as we go forward? the individual contracts would be for five years, i assume. but if in year two of this program we decided we don't like it anymore, we would have the authority to terminate or change the program? question mark. >> the question is yes and we can bring it back to the commission. bring reporting on customer participation and activity on a
regular basis so that the commission understands how customers are behaving, that have signed up. and we can set a term to come back for reconsidering the form, too. if that's of interest. >> commissioner moran: i would like some routine reporting on this kind of thing that i expect there would not be a whole rash of activity that would need frequent reports but something frequent enough that keeps us on, stays in our mind that this is something we need to pay attention to. and you know, so if we had an annual report on that, that would be fine with me. i would also ask that if you start seeing activity, that is of concern or note in any particular way that you come back to us and inform us of that. >> absolutely. >> commissioner moran: the integrity of the program i'm most concerned about and i don't want it to be, i don't want us to be such good guys we get taken advantage of.
that said, i think it's a great program. >> president caen: residential? >> we think this is really primarily to benefit commercial but for residential customer they may want to demonstrate a commitment to the program, they may want to kind of make a more formal commitment, like the p.r. value, the bragging rights for being clean energy over multiple years. >> vice president vietor: and what if the house sells? commercial, the commercial business sells. they have to pay their fee, i would imagine, but -- is there an opportunity to pass on the contract? via deed or what not, to the next homeowner? >> the agreement is with the account holder, so it would terminate at the time the business or a resident --
>> vice president vietor: and pay a fee. a lot of motivation for a homeowner to do it, besides a gold star. but -- >> commissioner moran: green sticker. >> vice president vietor: green sticker, gold star, same idea. especially if at some point people move relatively frequently, and then they would have to pay a fee to terminate. >> forgot to introduce myself, michael himmes, to be frank, i think you are right, we are not sure how much this will attract residential customers as is, aside from the -- for the reasons that miss almond just mentioned. there may be some residential customers that are very motivated, and exception to that, though, could be a multi-family building, which of course is residential, but you know, has a commercial purpose and they may want to receive lead certification potentially.
but miss almond in her remarks mentioned we think this is kind of a first step. what we are trying to do is act quickly to respond to our customers' interests. our customers have told us that they would like to be super green customers, partly because they want the lead certification, stamp of approval for the buildings. so we think this is something that we can provide under the context of our existing super green offering, but one thing we would like to do that we have been talking about is a multi-year agreement that conveys additional benefits to customers like a fixed price for example, or i think as miss almond mentioned, associated with the specific project that gets developed as a result of their commitment. now, for that type of product i would anticipate we would have much more significant termination fees because we would be making a real
multi-year commitment and fixing costs and making commitments on our end. but under this agreement, we are not necessarily changing our behavior or risk profile as it relates to the super green products. >> commissioner moran: and i think -- i think you are probably right about the single-family home. but multi-family developments, lord knows the permitting process is competitive in the city and if that's part of the mix to come before the permitting bodies and say no the only are we going to talk a good game, but here is a commitment. i think that there is real value for our office building, we have bragging rights that we use all the time about the nature of that. so i think there's real value here, even though it does not come out in rights or anything like that. >> vice president vietor: yeah, i think it would be nice to hear back from you in a few minutes,
what the incentives should be to encourage the multi-year commitment. and you don't have to pay a bill every month or something, you know. you could -- and some people might like that, it's like they are taken care of for the year, one bill, right? because it's multi-year agreement or something that would make an incentive or whatever speaks to the people's desire, and part is the green star. it might be permitting question, it might be, you know, that you want to build, you want to see a project come to fruition in your neighborhood or in california, what have you. so, to understand for us to understand like what the incentives could or should be for this program, i think would be great. moving along. >> commissioner moran: let me just ask, i'll make a motion to amend the resolution to include annual reporting requirement. >> president caen: thank you. >> vice president vietor: i'll
second the amendment. >> president caen: ok. public comments on the amendment? all those in favor? opposed? the motion carried. now we vote on the amendment -- excuse me, the resolution, that includes the new amendment. >> vice president vietor: i would like to move the resolution as amended. >> commissioner moran: second that. >> president caen: public comment? all those in favor? opposed? the motion carries. [please stand by]
>> next item. item 17 i prove the selection of aecom technical services to provide construction management services for the proposed mountain tunnel improvement project, not to exceed $24.5 million. i would like to notice that the commission did receive two additional letters this morning, one from deputy agm of the contract administration bureau dated -- i'm sorry, that was from steve wing dated april 21 and one dated april 19 from ms. fine and there are companies in the public binder. >> good afternoon. assistant general manager for infrastructure. this contract would be for $24.5 million. it is for construction
management services because we will have continue to have multiple shutdowns for mountain tunnel and construction to do repairs, add a shaft, do road work, slope stabilization work. we went through the interview, the rfp process had interviews and evaluated written proposals and the firms were ranked. and acom was the top ranked firm. epc responded shortly after, but staff feel pretty confident we should move forward with aecom. i can answer any questions. i also have the city attorney here who worked with us on the response.
>> i read the letter and reviewed the materials and i'm ready to make a motion. i'll move the item. >> second it. >> thank you. comments on this item? seeing none. all those in favor? opposed? the motion carries. so, shall we read items to be covered in closed session? >> yes. item 20, is existing litigation, joseph versus city and county of san francisco. 21, existing litigation. 23, existing litigation, pacific gas and electric. 24, existing litigation, pacific
gas and electric. are there any public comments on the items to be addressed during closed session? seeing none, may have a motion on whether to assert? >> i'll move to assert. >> second. >> president ye all /* we are going to take five-minute break. maybe eight minutes. >> [laughter]. the commission has now reconvened in open session. the announcement following the closed session is the following. item 20 was settled.
items 21 through 26, no action. >> just to clarify on item 20, it was a recommendation to the board of supervisors, so there is not a final. >> recommendation to the board of supervisors. thank you. that's because of the amount of money, correct? >> correct. >> may have a motion regarding whether to disclose? >> move not to disclose. >> second. >> all those in favor? opposed? the last item, other new business. i have something to bring up. i was wondering why the commissioners have not gotten a raise -- [laughter] -- or, i don't know, how many years? and that's true of other commissioners that serve on commissions that have
compensation. could somebody look into that? >> who? >> i think it's hard wired to the charter. >> i'll have to check if it's charter. >> i think the rate of compensation is the charter. by the way, which bargaining unit rcmp -- are you in? >> back in 1932, that was a special amount of money. >> it's in the charter? >> good try, ann. >> we'll research it and get back to you. >> okay. all right. any further business? seeing none. this meeting is adjourned at 3:45.
restaurant and count ii destines in any district in the city right here in the mission intricate why don't we capture that to support the mission youths going to college that's for the food for thought. we didn't have a signature font for our orientation that's a 40-year-old organization. mission graduates have helped me to develop special as an individual they've helped me figure out and provide the tools for me that i need i feel successful in life >> their core above emission and goal is in line with our values. the ferraris yes, we made 48 thousand >> they were on top of that
it's a no-brainer for us. >> we're in and fifth year and be able to expand out and tonight is your ungrammatical truck food for thought. food truck for thought is an opportunity to eat from a variety of different vendor that are supporting the mission graduates by coming and representing at the parks >> we're giving a prude of our to give people the opportunity to get an education. people come back and can you tell me and enjoy our food. all the vendor are xooment a portion of their precedes the money is going back in >> what's the best thing to do
in terms of moving the needle for the folks we thought higher education is the tool to move young people. >> i'm also a college student i go to berkley and 90 percent of our folks are staying in college that's 40 percent hire than the afternoon. >> i'm politically to clemdz and ucla. >> just knowing we're giving back to the community. >> especially the spanish speaking population it hits home. >> people get hungry why not eat and give.
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