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change state law. the other would be, it's called congestion pricing and new york also just passed it. it comes in really lots of forms, but the goal is to say, if you're traveling more miles and you're traveling them at the most congested hours and traveling them in the most convested -- congested places, you should pay a fee. we haven't developed a clear policy around what that is, and we're hoping to inform that agenda, but even if we had an informed and something that everyone in the city supports, we couldn't implement it without changing state law either. >> council member williams: thank you. >> long winded answer, but we're with you. >> council member williams: just to clarify if i may, the city is engaged with california public utilities commission on this, right? >> yeah. i mean, it's kind of a loaded plate there. i'm not privy to those conversations, but i would say that the outcomes -- we have not had any different outcomes.
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>> co-chair senhaux: i don't have a question, but a quick comment because the rules apply to me, too. i appreciate with regards to enforcement you're listening to our concerns around driver behavior. and second thing you're doing education awareness around, you know, safety rules for people on scooters, you know, safe streets. and on bikes. because we all share the right-of-way, we all share the sidewalks and everybody has to be respectable. we all have to share these areas. so people with disabilities and, you know, seniors sometimes get overlooked. i'm not saying one population is more important than the other, but we should all be able to travel the streets safely. so i think everyone needs to be considerate of everyone using the streets and cars and bikes. because without any type of enforcement or education -- and i commend you in the work you're doing -- i don't think the goal is going to be reached. with that in mind, that's my last comment. i'm going to open it up. thank you very much.
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>> i think you had a second question. >> co-chair senhaux: i'm sorry, with time constraints, i need to close it and open it up to public comment at this time. >> can we, before we do that, would you mind to give your contact information to the group. >> it's up on the left. so if we can go back to the -- there we go. >> nicole: great. >> thank you very much. i'm going to open up to public comment. i want everybody to know that the interpreters are only here until 4:00 and we have one more presentation and i want to give everyone a chance to speak. so please let's be mindful of the time. so i understand we have public comment on this agenda item. >> yes, from zack. we have a bridge line participant as well.
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>> co-chair senhaux: okay. thank you. >> hi, thanks for your time. i have a couple of things i want to say. i want to commend kate williams for her statement. i agree with that, with the problems with über and lyft. i've lived in the city for ten years and as a wheelchair user, i've noticed an increase in my own safety. i want to point out in 2017, british parliament in london, the regulatory agency of transportation banned über for "a lack of corporate responsibility". that ban was overturned in 2018 and, of course, this is not british parliament, but i would like to appointment out there is -- point out there is cities taking measures to ensure that pedestrians are safe. i would like to point out that i have friends that work for über and lyft and they do not pay their employees a livable wage. there is a lot of document
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documentation. driver are not paid enough to drive slowly. they're paid to drive quickly to get from point a to point b to make enough money to live. if you don't pay them a livable wage to do that, yeah, they're going to drive dangerous and we're paying the cost for that. for vision zero, i think this is a great idea. i think we can all agree that pedestrian safety is super important. i wanted to throw out ideas i just came up with, you know, maybe they won't happen tomorrow. but we can think about them. one is i can only travel as fast as as this scooter will take me. a lot of times that is not enough when the light counter starts counting down. what would it look like to increase the counters or a button for disabled people to cross the street safely? second idea. what about lights on crosswalks? i know other cities actually put lighting along the asphalt so that cars can see visibly, especially at night.
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the third, is what would it look like to create some funding for people with disabilities to afix reflective pieces of material on our mobility devices? the city could have a budget for that. led or other types of things that would help mobility devices. i have a black chair, it's super dangerous at night when i'm crossing the street. lastly, i'm a driver. i'm a california state driver. i went to driving school. i learned almost nothing about disabled people getting my driver's license and things i should look out for and the different types of disabilities. i think there could be a conversation with people on the state level about that. and lastly, i want to make sure that vision zero also is taking care to look out for communities of color and at-risk communities. not just affluent communities when we're talking about pedestrian safety. there is something that died at a crosswalk near my house and nobody did anything about it for ten years.
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now that my block has a porsche and a tesla and a land rover, now all of a sudden we're getting a traffic light. i would like to see those changes happen before millionaires live in the neighborhood. >> co-chair senhaux: our next public comment. >> helen walsh. >> i am helen walsh. i'm from the berkley commission on disability. i also am an advocate on areas of inclusive. listening to the presentation, the zero vision is also something we're working on, vision zero in berkley. so in regards to the state issue, i'm wondering if municipalities would work together so that maybe we can do something about the issue looking at it more outside of the box instead of exclusive.
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it's a full area problem. so i want to emphasize consideration in those areas if all our different municipalities and different areas of disability meetings i've gone to within layers of city areas, which in other municipalities, if we could share our information, maybe we would be able to target this in a way where we could move forward with more inclusion and voice of the disability community as well as how different cities are conquering some of these issues. my other bit of -- other comment would be, outreach and educational materials reflective and being inclusive of seniors and persons with disabilities as pedestrians or as drivers or as bicyclists in terms of your
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information so that we have a way to communicate considerations to the large community of diverse individuals with disabilities out there in our communities. and i'm speaking about senior citizens when i'm speaking on this. i think i'm just going to leave it to two. i have a lot more, but i think consideration of information and being inclusive and working together in our municipalities might help with state areas, thank you. >> co-chair senhaux: thank you very much. any other public comment on the bridge line? please go ahead, bridge line. >> okay, i have a comment. my name is richard rothman. i'm talking about fulton street. while vision zero is fine, but it's time for action. why do things take so long? 43rd and fulton, somebody died there at least five, six years ago. and they still haven't upgraded
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the lights there. you know, it's a shame. and fulton is a speedway. a number of years ago i asked the vision zero staff to put the electronic speed radar signs on fulton street and nothing has been done. i don't know why they can't get the mta staff to get things done. all the reports you do are fine, but if they don't have action and help lives, they don't mean anything. the other thing i'm concerned about, the mayor wants to have all these protective bike lanes. there is one on polk street. my wife and i go to the eye doctor and my wife has a hard time walking. if there is a protected bike lane in front of the eye doctor's office, how is my wife supposed to get there? are we supposed to park the car in the middle of the street and then walk across the bike lanes to get into the doctor's office?
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we all have to live in this city and work together and the final thing is i don't think mta muni should have a veto over pedestrian safety issues. i found out they're being blocked by muni staff and i don't think that's right. and thank you for having this hearing today. >> co-chair senhaux: thank you, richard. thank you for your comment. i'm going to go ahead and close public comment. we're going to go to item number 8, informational item, san francisco recreation -- i'm sorry. my apologies. staff, any comments? okay. i'm sorry, information number 8, san francisco recreation parks department, disability access and inclusion services. i want to welcome and thank you, mr. lucas tobin, for his patience waiting to appear.
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he is a supervisor for inclusion services. and i want to welcome the ada coordinator -- i'm sorry -- recreation and parks department and anthony, who is sfu intern for park and rec. thank you for waiting. we look forward to hearing your presentation. go! [laughter]. >> thanks, i'll try to be speedy because i know we're running short on time. >> we want to hear what you have to say. >> co-chair senhaux: trying to make light of the situation. take your time. >> i'm supervisor for therapy recreation and inclusion services with sf rec and park. i'm also ada coordinator. she's with our capital division as well. like you mentioned, anthony is here, he's an intern who is going to present his project on
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children's play area accessibility. so i want to get through mine, because his really the great exciting presentation for today. but, the council sent some great questions. here we are. looks like they're coming up. so the council sent great questions. i'm going to use that to guide my part of the presentation and do it as a q&a, reading the questions and answering them. so the first question was a great one. the first question, what are rec and parks philosophy and how does rec and park make it happen? i thought that was a great question. the first part of that, i'm going to list off our programs. and so for summer programs and
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camps, we have camp mather inclusion week. for our day camps, we have everybody plays, everybody travels, everybody chills, which is a 2-day camp to fill the gaps of summer school. team city which is -- teen city which is a teen camp. inclusion at eco camp and inclusion at silver tree. next we have for our year-round programs, we have our access academy, which is programs for the access program. and those are six programs. and also swim times that are available for the access students. sfusd access students. we have the adults programs which includes the american sign language art program, for adults who have disabilities. we have the v.i.p. expressive
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arts for adults blind and visually impaired. tactile exploration for deaf and blind. and social network program for adults with developmental disabilities. and more programs for children. and teens with autism during the school year. we have our everybody plays day. our teen time which is for children and teens with autism. our swim. and our brand new program starting this fall, which we're really excited about, which is called astep. after school therapeutic enrichment program, it's a program for children with developmental disabilities. the next part of the question was what is our mission? the san francisco recreation and park department is to provide enriching recreational activities, maintain beautiful parks and maintain the
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environment for everyone in our diverse community. i'm happy to say in 2015, we added the everyone to the mission statement. to continue with rpd philosophy, i'll just read that, it didn't get on the slide. so we promote a person-first philosophy in our language planning and our attitude at rec and park. we strive to do that and that people with disabilities, just like everyone, should have the right to choice, which is why we offer therapeutic and adaptive programs as well as inclusion services so people have access to both. and then the last part of the question, actually there was one more slide. our department's motto is get
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out and play. part of our philosophy is that everybody should have the chance to get out and play. with recreation and parks. and how does rec and park make it happen? well, i ask myself that question every day i think. we make it happen because we have a great team of staff to help out with our therapeutic inclusion services. we have a supportive executive staff and general manager. and also because of partners, like the mod and the mayor's disability council and other partners, like support for families, lighthouse for the blind. and also with all the families that we work with who use our services. last one is how is rec and park including kids with disabilities? so we do that through our specialized programs which i've already listed, using our inclusion services. and we do that because of our
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great staff. we have two certified therapeutic therapists who work with us, as well as two recreation specialists who actually do the direct services for the programs. and dozens of part-time staff who work day-to-day with the kids and other people in our program. and we have an inclusion process in our certified therapeutic recreation specialists manage that process for inclusion services. next question is, are there any kids who are considered too disabled to be included? what is rec and park's policy around kids with multiple disabilities? we don't look at it that way, that anybody is too disabled. we have limitations with our staff as far as personal care and administering medication. sometimes the parent will provide somebody if they need that assistance, but we don't
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look at it as anybody being too disabled. if we can include them, we will. we have a lot of children and people in our program with multiple disabilities. who does inclusion services serve? and how many people with disabilities? so our biggest numbers really, autism, we have a lot of kids and young adults with autism in our programs. we also have a big population of people who are deaf and hard-of-hearing and people who are blind and visually impaired. but we haven't broken up our numbers by disability yet. but, we have started to really look at numbers overall. and the numbers that i'm putting up here are people with disabilities who are actually registered in our programs. and have self-disclosed, that
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they have a disability. this does not include people who are deaf or hard-of-hearing. we started this in 2017. in 2017, we had 112, but that is not complete because we didn't start until summer of 2017. so this really only includes summer and fall. and then 2018 was our first complete year of inputting those numbers. but still not totally complete because that is when we were actually catching up with inputting the numbers. and so far this year, we have 127, but that is only up through winter. so that doesn't include our spring and of course, we're just putting in the numbers for summer camp right now. what percentage of programs participants require disability accommodation? again, that is not something we've tracked the percentage of
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people who have requested a disability accommodation. our biggest accommodation requests are for support staff. sort of like what the school calls para professionals or aides, one-on-one aides. we have a huge number of requests for those accommodations, as well as sign language interpreters. so those are our biggest requests that we get. but part of the reason that we do our specialized and adaptive recreation programs is because accommodations usually are not an issue with those programs. the adequate staffing is built in. if it's a program that is run in american sign language, we don't have to worry about interpreters and providing accommodations, so it can be a more efficient way to provide our services. do you think you serve everyone? that's another good question. and no, i wish that we could. and we're continually trying to
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serve more people. and we'd like to serve a bigger range of people with disabilities. one of my personal goals is to do more for -- with disability sports and we're working on that. we recently purchased two state-of-the-art standup and play golf chairs that are going to be available at our golf courses. and we purchased a lawn bowling chair and got 10 basketball chairs. so we're working to try to increase those opportunities. what programs are available for sal users? i didn't list those earlier because this is a different question. we have the american sign language after school, our summer day program, our leader in training program. explorations, which is an asl class, but that's with a recreation side to it, so people come and learn the signs and
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they do an activity like cooking for playing games or something like that. we have a program for adults who are deaf and hard-of-hearing and also have disabilities. and a program for people who are deaf and blind or visually impaired that we partner with the lighthouse for the blind to provide. and we also offer inclusion services for asl users. for any program that they're interested in registering for. all right, this is a big question. why are the camps almost always full when registration begins on a specific day? often the announcement seems to be closer to the due date. last-minute. and may not give parents time to look over the camp schedules. this may be a little challenging trying to work with other camp sessions if the camps at rec and park are completely full. camps filling up really fast on registration day is a huge issue
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for everyone across the city. we do have a lot of camps that are really popular and everybody is going online at the same time and try to sign up. that is a big issue. there are tips and tricks that people do. they have both, the husband and wife, on different devices trying to do it, and you can put things in your shopping cart ahead of time to try to register, but it is an issue, just the number of slots available across the board. but also i think one thing that might be confusing for families with kids with disabilities is that we send out our e-news letter a couple of weeks before registration to remind people that registration day is coming up. we also want to make sure that our families know what they need to do if they're registering a child with a disability. but our actual -- i'm going to show -- i brought the date here for when registration dates are announced and when the actual catalogs come out.
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and for summer camp, it's actually a couple months before. so our registration started on march 16, but the catalog came out on january 25. our summer program registration is actually begins tomorrow and the catalog came out on april 8. so it's usually about a month before that the actual physical catalog comes out. it comes out online usually a week or two before, actually the printed version comes out. so there should be time to prepare and figure out what you want to register for. and the best way to find out about these dates and know ahead of time is to sign up for our general e-news. so that you can see when the dates are coming. next question is, if a person is on a wait list for a camp session, why does it take so long for the parents to get information on if there is an opening? and that -- each situation is
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different. but sometimes nobody drops out of a camp and so there is no space in the camp. or sometimes it happens last-minute that somebody drops out. but the best advice i can give, that people should check in with our office or the registration office to find out what is happening with the wait lists. next question is, if one request support why do you say first come-first serve? how will we know if support is available? we do not do -- i'm assuming this question was about support staff, like a one-on-one aide, or a para professional, we call them support staff. i'm assuming that is what this question is about, but it's not a first come first service tt basis, but because the demand exceeds our administrative abilities to hire staff and train them, by the time summer
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comes around, we have to put a deadline so we can get all the requests in and then try and set up all the staff people to work with the kids. so it's not that it's first come-first serve at all. everyone after the deadline goes on waiting list and we figure out how many support staff we provide. i'm sending out e-mails. we've been short staffed. i've been working on those. and letting families know there will be some weeks where we have to -- we may have to do a lottery, because we have so many requests in addition to our camps that we're running for support staff. finally, i think this is the last question i got. how long should a person expect a response back from staff if they're trying to communicate via e-mail? what is rec and park's rules with replying back with requested information? i hate this question, because
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sometimes things do fall through the cracks and then i have to admit that. that sometimes there is more of a delay than we would like. and sometimes it's just because staff have to communicate with each other. sometimes somebody -- the sdim decision-makinger is out of the office, but we strive to respond within 24 hours, but i have to admit that sometimes we don't follow up with that. we really do try to respond as quickly as we can. and please, you know, we want people to be proactive. if they haven't heard back, please follow up with us. we try to do as best we can with that. so that is the end of the questions that i had from the council. so now i'd like to bring up anthony who is going to be presenting on his children's play area project.
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hi, everyone, i'm anthony. i'm a san francisco state intern with the park and rec department. under my supervisor lucas tobin. i'm here to present my project, it's a children play area accessible features project. just to give you a brief overview what my project was. it was an assessment of the current accessibility features at san francisco rec and parks children play areas throughout the city. this information has been compiled onto the website which has a user-friendly platform that gives you visual and
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descriptive information on amenities and features. and so we want to provide the most polished product and we did run into certain time constraints, so we weren't able to evaluate all 135 children play areas, but with meetings with nicole bohn, john paul scott of department of public works and members of the rec and parks capital division, we were able to select 55 children's play areas to showcase, due to the quality of the features and amenities. the other children's play areas are going to be added at a later date. through research of other organizations and having meetings with the different departments, we were able to create an accessibility criteria. to establish what information should be displayed to the public. so going from left to right, we
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have a ramp that connects onto the play structure. accessible picnic table. accessible parking spots, accessible fountains, sensory play elements, play structures, adaptive swings and transportiers. for the need for my project came about due to the lack of easily accessible information on the website. so this is how the page -- this is how you would access any accessibility information on the website currently. so at the top of the page, you have the disability questions section. once you press that, it will lead you to this page. and then on this page, there is only one link -- or there was only one link that would lead to the accessibility index. once you click that link, it
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takes you to this page here. right now this page has several major issues. the table is formatted incorrectly. the information is outside of the margins. and generic descriptions that offer no real insight on what the parks have to offer. and once you click on the detailed page link, you would get that same generic description at the top. you wouldn't have any photos. and you would have no information on equipment or amenities. and so if you go back to the disability questions page, you would get a new link titled children's play areas with our new page. and so now the pages have been updated with the new table. you can use filters to access
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the type of equipment you'd like to see. everything has been formatted correctly. and if you go to the detailed page now, you'll have -- everything should be screen reader accessible. the photos have text. you have a list of amenities available at each location. and you have a side bar icon to provide more visual information. and so on this slide, i have a preview of what the photos would look like once you access the details page. going from left to right, you have the accessible play structure, accessible fountains, the accessible picnic areas, accessible parking, accessible bathrooms and ramps connecting onto the structure. we did find a few problem areas
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with the san francisco rec and park children play areas. for example, we have a photo of adaptive swings that are missing harnesses and the seats are actually placed too low. on the second photo, we have an accessible picnic table that has been blocked off, thus making it inaccessible for a wheelchair. for the last photo, we have sandwich is an inaccessible play surface. i found more issues. here i have a pie chart of the types of swings in the 55 children's play areas. only two of them had an adaptive swing with a harness and seven with belt harness and six with a disk swing. out of the play areas, only 10 of them had a ramp connected to the structure for wheelchair access. and so sfrpd, they do a lot of
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things well. so for example here, starting from left to right, we have an adaptive swing with a plastic harness. in the middle, we have a ramp that connects to the structure. on the right, we have a disde dis-swing. these are all good starts, but we should look to other examples that exceed ada standards. so here i have a map circling san francisco, paloalitio and san jose. early on in my internship, my supervisor told me that a lot of parents would drive down to these two locations in san francisco to find play equipment that would suit their children's needs. so the first one here is a rotary play garden in san jose.
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they have wheelchair accessible equipment. and the surface is relatively flat to ease the transition from playstation to playstation. and then we have magical bridges playground in palo alto. when a kid in the wheelchair needs to get back on, they can easily do that. on the right we have six adaptive swings in one location providing more swings for everybody. and so, the next steps that we want to take is to -- so basically we want to be the standard of what an inclusive playground should be. currently we do enough to meet the standards for our children's play areas, so that involves a
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lot of education and just public outreach and engaging the community on how we can improve. i've done that, i've presented this project to san francisco rec and park's head management and general manager phil ginsburg and i'm continuing to advocate for just designing a truly inclusive playground for everybody. that's all i have for you today. >> next, one of the questions that came up, was about how rec and park outreaches to the public about capital projects. so pauline was going to talk about that. we did have slides for that as well. >> good afternoon, council. i'm a project manager with capital division.
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and i also am access coordinator for physical access. i've been the coordinator, i think, for the last 10 years. i am very pleased that we got lucas on the program side to get the internship for these very, very eye opening great projects, especially for the capital division. the capital division, we are about 10 to 12 project managers that undertake the renovations of the existing facilities and new facilities that come to the rec and park department. and lucas and anthony are going to come to capital division to really get to the project
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managers. they need that we have to be able to work with the tight budgets that we have as much as inclusiveness and accessibility that we can have in our playgrounds and facilities. with that said, you know, this is a very exciting for us. and nicole has been, in the last year, been an advocate for us to really open our eyes at the funding, that we have to be able to add accessibility, because basically all of our projects have accessibility, but the more that we can do for projects that are not bond projects or projects that really depend on general funding, that is something that nicole and the ada accessibility program at rec
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and park is trying to increase. with that said, nicole asked about our quarterly meetings at the capital division, about our community planning process. because when a new project comes in the pipeline, the first thing that we do, once we have determined budget and scope of work, we have three or four community meetings, which basically, we outreach to the community to let them know that we have a new project and we want to hear about their thoughts about the project, what is needed, what works, what doesn't work, what are the priorities? and then, we have another -- this is the first meeting. the second meeting, we come and we hear them and we have a plan, kind of a concept plan that we work together to be able to come
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out with renovation of a new project. so how do we get people to come to these meetings? first thing that we do is traditional mail. we have resident 300 radios of the park property, that is extra livingsal. we also -- traditional. we also go to associations that are key and basic for the communities. for example, magic, in the bayview district. they do monthly meetings, so we go and notify about the upcoming projects. we also post signage. you know in the park, on the fences of the park, on bulletin boards of the neighborhood. so depending on the neighborhood, we make sure we go
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to starbucks and grocery stores to be able to notify and we ask, can we post a notice here for your clients to see it? and then, of course, after we do this on-site posting and traditional mail, we depend online. online is what people are doing these days. and we have the website which we have new letters that come every week. and they advertise all our projects, all our meetings, all our programs that we have. and we also have that website and the news letter. we communicate very closely with supervisors and get in their news letters. the social media, we have a facebook. we have next door, hoodline, all the projects that our community
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outreach staff recommends that we do. and, of course, for our stakeholders, we depend so much -- we have good relationship with them. so basically, they are supporting the projects and they're advocates for the new renovations so the new projects. so we go, our stakeholders are at the local community groups. organizations, schools. our city departments, mta, you know, dph. we are projects that are in the same area. we work together with them. we work also with mod, mayor's office of disability projects. we like to come to these meetings where we can inform the public and inform yourself of
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what we're doing. and we have volunteers, lots of volunteers that work with rec and park. and persons that have worked with us in the sports. and in the space we're renovating. so this is basically the core element that we do for our out reach. each outreach in the community is never the same. you have communities that are more responsive, you know, when there is a community. but they have other communities as we have experience in the bayview that there is a lack of trust or some don't believe that the projects are happening, so what we do, we go to them. we drive to the events they have on the weekends and present our project to the different
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organizations, meeting after school programs. and we try to be able to get everyone involved in the way we have a project that is successful, that everyone can feel they have participation. >> co-chair senhaux: thank you very much. just because we're at time, i wanted to just do a check to see if we can run a few more minutes? but i don't know if our interpreters are available. thank you. >> that concludes my presentation. and we're open for any questions. >> co-chair senhaux: thank you for a very detailed and thank you for answering our questions. i'm going to answer up to council member questions. this is the line of order we have. council member helen, orkid and alex. please go ahead. >> council member smolinski: just quickly, thank you all for
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coming. we really appreciate it. anthony, great job. okay. i hope it was a good experience for you. please know as a parent of a child in a wheelchair, that this is an issue that is near and dear to my heart. in fact, it was other parents who, while my child is -- has multiple disabilities, other parents have come to me with this very issue that they were planning birthday parties at san francisco parks, and had gone online on park and rec's website to identify a park to make sure that the playground had accessible equipment. and that's how we got here today. thank you. you and your whole department. lucas, et cetera, for being so expensive to this need that our council identified from the community. so that's huge. glad to see there is such
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progress and we're going to get to the rest of the playgrounds, right? okay. okay, because that is really the question that i hope maybe was in your head while you were doing all this. you're not banned. you can come up. because it was really about, hey, i want to plan this birthday party for my child at a san francisco playground. not only is it accessible, but we're going to assume it's wheelchair accessible to get in and out, but is there playground equipment for my kid and his or her peers to enjoy? that was something that was needed. the information needed to be more easily accessible on your website. it sounds like there is a lot of progress toward that. that should be the question in your mind. that was the goal. and then just lastly, with regard to the outreach, again, it's all about, i feel like the
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website to a great extent. if you can make your website. there was an excel spreadsheet and i love your use of the word generic. it had so much generic information next to every playground it made the excel spreadsheet meaningless. so a long -- you go a long way for your outreach if you just improve your website. my specific question for lucas, why isn't your department keeping track of the numbers? you mentioned a couple of times, we haven't kept track of that, but there was the one about kids who need accommodations and inclusion services. i would think keeping track of the request for that and the number that are fulfilled would go a long way toward informing your services and service delivery. >> and i think what i meant, maybe it wasn't clear, we're not
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keeping track of the percentage of people who need accommodations, but we do keep track of who is requesting accommodations and what accommodations we're providing. and the other piece of that is just registration in general, how many people with disabilities are registering for programs. so we do have records and our rec therapists have files on all the participants. and you know, what their assessments say and what accommodations they've requested and what we've provided, but it's not -- i don't have those numbers in our rec stat system to show how many total we've served, but that is something we could tally up. we do it each summer or each season, but not total numbers. so i mean, you're right.
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there are all different ways we need to tell our story and present those numbers. and some we have not done yet. >> council member smolinski: to be frank, i would be curious to see if the number of kids with disabilities that you're serving at rec and park is proportional to the number in our school district. you know, i think those numbers tell a story of whether park and rec is meeting the need. or if there is an outstanding need and you need more budget, right? >> so, yes, absolutely. >> council member smolinski: thank you. >> truth is, it's a tiny percentage and the schools have to serve all kids and we're serving a tiny percentage, so we do want to increase that. >> co-chair senhaux: thank you. >> council member sassouni: yes, okay, thank you so much for your presentation and especially for the asl programs.
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the summer registration is always filled and i learned from the newspaper, it said that first priority is low, that quite often the summer camps are full. and this is the fifth year that i couldn't register for as much as i would like to. i was only able to get my son into one program. i notice often that other parents, you know, sometimes parents -- the kids are saying it's not enough fun, so if you could add more diversity or variety within the program, that would be great. and just in summary, in terms of the deaf-blind program, how often do you offer that program? once a week or two times a week? i was wondering because my understanding, it seems just once a week. two times a week would be great. and also for those individuals with developmental disabilities,
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for example, it's capped at one week, it would be great if it was longer than one week. asl learners. i have not seen a lot about that. it's like once every couple of months. and then families with babies who want to learn asl, it's limited. is it because there is not enough numbers? but i think it's great that you offer the twice a year, the deaf gathering in spring and winter, right? is that correct? i think that's great, continue that. that is a big positive. i just wish that there were more after-school activities at the play areas, because it seems they're just right now just located one place. and my son goes to school in a different area and so to get there, it eats up a lot of time. so that is another thing. i wish there were more asl programs offered around the city as opposed to just that one
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location and wondering if that is a possibility. i'm just throwing that out there. >> not sure if i remembered all the question about the different programs, but the asl learning program is definitely one of our biggest goals is to provide a place for parents who have a deaf child to come and learn sign language. we would love to get parents in there with deaf babies to come and learn with us. we did expand that program to every week. it's every tuesday afternoon now and will continue through the summer. oh, the asl, the program that is for people who are deaf and blind is once a week. and it's a really tiny program. we'd love to grow it. and if it expands more, we could do it twice a week. the program we offer for the tool works clients is once a week, on wednesdays. it will continue through the summer. but one of the cool things, as far as inclusion, those clients
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through tool works are signing up for other -- they do water fitness and yoga and water aerobics and they do like five different programs during the week. so we are providing a lot to those clients through inclusion services as well. i think i got most of the questions. >> co-chair senhaux: thank you. >> council member sassouni: after school? >> so, the one that is the asl after-school program, that is tiny as well. we only have eight kids in that program and that is just in the mission. i would love to expand it, too, or at least provide staff who sign more of our programs to make them accessible to signers and families who use asl. we do sometimes have staff people at some of those programs, but we don't have specific asl programs at any other locations right now.
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>> co-chair senhaux: thank you. council member alex. >> council member madrid: a couple of questions. one, how come on our data i didn't see any -- particularly on mobility -- disability. are there any data for that? and making accessibility for all parks and kids. i just wondered even though you guys are trying to make playgrounds more accessible, i
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just want to emphasize the area has to be accessible, too. getting in and out. our park needs to be accessible. >> it's true, i don't have any specialized programs for people with mobility disabilities, but that is something that we really want to offer, some sports. adaptive sports and hopefully competitive sports and opportunities for people with mobility disabilities. so that is an area we're hoping to expand into more. and, yes, the accessibility at facilities is really important. and that is something that paulina and her team works on. like anthony's project shows, there is lot more we can do with play areas and physical areas to make them more accessible. >> council member madrid: i was just wondering, you guys making
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the facility more inclusive. thank you. >> i just want to say that, we did analysis of the san francisco recreation department accessibility for recreational elements included in the 2010ada standards, which included playground, golf courses, pools, courts fishing piers, all the ones that go through the department of inspection when we do renovation projects. we did a presentation here to the council around 2016. and we -- they were really happy to see that in our playgrounds, when we analyzed this, the study
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was based on accessibility to the playground itself, through the recreation, but also there are many that serve them, like the restrooms, the parking. you know. if they were connected to recreation center. and our playgrounds run at 75% that we have accessibility, physical access. of which i think it was at least 50% or 65% that included not only the recreational limit, but the many that serve it. so in capital, when we do capital projects, renovations, new playgrounds, facility is one of the key elements we work with.
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that makes it. but everybody, there are things, we need to put more swings that are accessible. but the fact that sometimes we're limbed by the space -- limited by the space that we have for the playground to create these traveling elements like in st. mary's park, you know, st. mary's, we have where a person can get into a structure with a wheelchair, it's a very long area. that is something we have to do and we have renovations in big areas to do it. but, yes, it is on our mind and we can do more of it.
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>> nicole: your point is well taken. i want to add. i know we need to end very soon. that as part of the planning, we are also looking at the path of travel in and out of the parks. and play areas as part of what we're analyzing so that all of the features can be connected in the best way possible. >> co-chair senhaux: thank you, presenters. i appreciate your time. and waiting. so thank you so much. i want to open up public comment on this agenda item. and i want to thank the people that were waiting to speak for their patience. >> thank you for waiting. >> i want to thank mod for going late on this, i appreciate it. i want to address a couple of things about access with parks and rec. first i want to say that paulina
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during her presentation was talking about outreach and said that the average people near the park, 300 feet radius, that does not seem far enough at all. i would think that if you're going to do construction in a park, at least three blocks would be reasonable. 300 feet is nothing. also, paulina has been very hard to get ahold of over e-mail. very hard to reach. it seems necessary to copy mod staff every time i want to reach them for something. it seems like a huge waste of resources. they could just respond and that would make life easier. i want to talk about the access of holly park, which is an important park to me. it has five entrances for able-bodied people and one for wheelchair users. that one requires me, once i get to the park, i have to go four city blocks around the park to get to the wheelchair accessible