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>> hi, my name is hope williams. i work in the but i live in sunset. i am in opposition to this. because of the low rate of affordable housing that will be a part of it. i don't think it's enough. i think it certainly fails to meet the neighborhood needs as articulated in the 2016 r 2016 affordable divisadero plan which calls for 54% affordability in new projects. i find it astounding that there's been enough push back and sf had to pass legislation that made it a requirement to ensure that there was 20% affordable housing with each new
structure. i'm just in complete opposition. i think that there should be more. i also wanted to go back to what saved had spoken to about his friend who traveled here from sacramento starting her commute at 4:00 a.m. in the morning and it took her five years to find housing in san francisco. i think that's because she couldn't find affordable housing in the first place and i don't think that this project would have met that need and it took her five years of struggling to find it and i think this is just the complete end to what would work. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi, my name is emma sterns. i lived in the city my whole lyft life. i am here in opposition to the 400 divisadero project as proposed. this project failed to meet the needs of divisadero community. 20% affordability in new housing
is not enough for 37 units of affordable housing out of 186 units. this project is seeking five conditional use approval yet contains no benefit, community members. the project fails to meet neighborhood needs as articulated in the 2016 community plan and created by over 500 community members which calls for 50% affordability project and the developers also consistently ignored community demand and claiming community engagement for this site. at the end of the day we node more affordable housing and i urge you to pleats not support this project until there's a higher percentage of affordable housing. thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> hi, i'm rachel fishman. i lived in d5 for nine years.
i am a mom of two very young children. i'm here in support of 400 divisadero. in addition to the fact that we need more housing, our neighborhood is dirty. trash everywhere and i'm on the board of asna and we discuss these things and i believe this development will 100% help start to clean up and create a larger community for us in our neighborhood and ultimately will make it safer for my children who are stepping on glass and concerned about prime. we are impressed. my husband and i. with david. he has taken the time to reach out to so many community members to get input and it's 100% collaborative and we really appreciated that and finally, we
node more housing. the more housing we have the more affordable this city becomes. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hello everyone. my name is geo costa and i am in support of 400 divisadero. i lived in lower hate for nine years. i served on the neighbors association and i also organize the art walks on the lower merchant corridor. i believe the 400 will address a big issue which is helping connect the gap between divisadero and the lower hate core doers. while the huge gap that touches car wash while presents doesn't seem significant it does give the illusion the corridor on divisadero and at oak and divisadero and this effects merchants on divisadero leading
up to hate street as well as folks in lower haide. adding additional retail and affordable units within four middle income residents i think will help everyone and increase foot traffic in nearby neighborhoods. in addition, the 170 bike parking spaces and limit of .5 parking spots per units will encourage units to take advantage of the wiggle, use muni and explore all of divisadero street and lower hate merchant corridor. the additional residents will have a more positive impact than negative. lastly, david, the developer, i believe is truly gone out of his way to really meet and talk to everyone. i know not everyone is always able to make it out to all the meetings but frankly, he has been around too much.
i find him to be adding a lot to the neighborhood and trying to help with the arts and he even helped out with the art walks. even though it may not help to his end goal. i think that he will add personality to our neighborhood rather than takeaway from it. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> hi, everybody. so my name is chris cook i'm a local artist. i'm in support of this project. i've been working with david and these guys doing some art stuff. sf.org and it's an addition to the neighborhood. a beautiful project and beautiful building and i'm looking forward to seeing it built. please approve this. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please. >> my name is chris davis. i'm a pastor and division 5. i have seen firsthand the 400
divisadero team gather people to get feedback at our church on multiple occasions. the community has come into ask questions and some tough questions to give, tough feedback and so i really believe this this project and i think we need more housing. i believe in affordable housing and market rate housing i believe in both. i also understand this project can't do anything and so i'm in support of this project. i hope you pass it or push it forward. >> thank you. negligence speakernext speaker,. >> corey smith. i'm speak on behalf of the ashbury neighbors. we're the district 5emb group. we support avocados because we need more housing at all levels for affordable ability all over the city. i live in the upper haiti so this is one neighborhood away from me and it's an awesome commercial corridor. there's so much to do. and i'm pumped about how this is
going to continue to improve the neighborhood. we have a climate crisis here on our planet and the only way that we are going to solve that and fight back and really improve the lives for future generations is by reducing carbon emissions. we can do that by replacing gas stations with homes for people. speakers earlier talked about some of the bus lines that go through the neighborhood as on opposition point. there's so many bus lines and train lines that go right through here it's really well connected with the rest of the city and just makes sense. a number of folks said we want as much affordable housing as possible and it's a absolute shared goal of everybody here. this project to be financed at 75% subsidized affordable housing everybody would be supportive of it but it's a really sophisticated way of saying that we don't want any housing here. if it's 100% affordable ok but we don't want any market-rate
housing or any private development and what that in turn does is it turns our backs on people that want to call this place home. one out of every 100 applicants for subsidized affordable housing get lucky enough to win the lottery. if the only way you can live in the city is wing a lottery, we're going to lose that soul and lows lose that future. 50% of zero housing is zero housing. so it might be good politics, it might play well with certain audiences, it is a position that at the end of the day results in pulling up the drawbridge in san francisco and not welcoming folks and it's not something i can support. please approve the project today. thank you. >> thank you mr. smith. i'm going to call a few other speaker cards. debra esther, coo dan fedderman.
go ahead. >> good afternoon. first, i just have to to be in favor of affordable housing is not exclusive. it is in fact an attempt to be inclusive for all classes of people, all groups of people. so i am loraine. i'm almost life-long residents of the western edition and affordable housing advocate. this project, as you know, will have an enormous impact on the neighborhood. it's all in the dis representative sense with car traffic, additional demands on transit and other cities services. general congestion.
i believe more housing is definitely needed. but what kind of housing. i do not believe we need a project with 80% which is massive amount of market rate housing. for all the advantages given to this developer already, greater being sought and profits in the future, the community needs and deserves more affordable housing than just bear minimum. we need much more. the greatest and most important community benefit, the developers should be offering, and commissioners should be requiring is more affordable units. that's what will benefit the community and help compensate the city for all the extra infrastructure demands. thank you. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please.
>> hi. laura foot. i spent yesterday about two hours trying to help a friend navigate getting on a bunch of b.m.r. lists in order to get into -- they have a disability so they need a new unit. they he'd an a.d.a. compliant uniunit and they're in the midde income but market rate housing is expensive but there aren't many b.m.r. units and figuring out how to get into a home that they can get physically around. they're not many days when i get really depressed. that is a hard one to spend time with someone on craigslist and on the mayor's office of housing welcomwebsite trying to figure t what the options are.
we need projects like this. we need projects like this especially in high-income neighborhoods. we need to legalize building affordable housing everywhere. we don't have time. the four years this project has been debated and like the yoga walk, i don't know what that is but that sounds really nice and i'm glad they had a nice time with their community engagement process, my friend is not probably going to be able to stay in san francisco. that is a process that you guys have made where we don't just approve housing and make these decisions at a higher level of government. we haven't just decided to streamline and approve projects like this and four years is too long. four years is too long. thank you. >> thank you, next speaker,
please. >> my name is mark cornblat. thank you for the opportunity to speak. i've been a 30-year resident of san francisco. many of them spent in d5 literally around the coshe cornm the development. i've seen changes occur in the city and i've seen stagnation when it it comes to stage and quite frankly you are never going to be able to please everybody with every project. there's such a wonderful diverse community here that there's no way you can please everyone. but that space at 400 divisadero has been pretty much an open wound in the neighborhood for as long as i can remember and it is time to make a change there and to create housing instead of this car-based gas station and car wash. the mix of affordable and market racing is an easy compromise when you consider the net benefits of the neighborhood of
changing and getting rid of that car wash. i'm the co-founder of a non-profit dedicated to education, stem education for kids with technology. the museum of future sports and i originally met david when we were lackin looking for space ie city. david was tireless in helping us find and continues to help us find locations, make introductions for us to community benefit organizations and helping to introduce us to some of the communities around the city, not just in d5. he has been so tireless helping us that it didn't occur to me that he was actually the person spearheading this process. i think it just speaks to david's sincerity in working with the local communities, not just around this corridor where this project is going on but throughout the city. and that it speaks to his sincerity and trying to make san
francisco a better place for all and whatever way he can and i think this project speaks to that so i encourage everyone on the board to endorse this project. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon, commissioners. my name is dan fedderman and i'm lucky enough to own a condo five blocks from 400 divisadero. i'd like to work. i do not own a car. the city has declared there's a climate emergency. there are over 100,000 people who commute more than 90 minutes daily to get to work in the bay area. we need more people out of their cars and living closer to where they work. we can't solve our climate crisis without more homes. replacing a gas station with homes is the best way to solve our climate crisis without displacing anybody. folks commenting today say that building this housing will cause gentrification. the only people i know under 40 in this city who are planning on
station for more than a couple more years have a seven figure net worth. if that's not gentrification i don't know what is. we need more homes and we need more homes today raising the affordability requirement means we will end up with zero affordable homes and zero market rate homes. we really node to do better than zero. please approve this project as is and as soon as you can. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> good afternoon. my name is brandon ream. i live in district 5. i've been -- i live at belvedere and i've been there for a few years and i've been in district 5 for nine. i just wanted to voice my support for the proposed project. i think it hits a lot of markers for what a positive infill development should meet. i think after meeting with david
and seeing him at many of the community meetings, i think he has a strong sense of community and place and how this development fits in functionally and contextually with the community and it will be a net benefit. that's all i have, thank you. >> thank you. >> are there anymore speakers in the audience? >> steve with defend public education and how many students and talking about needing young people. students can't afford to live in san francisco. they're being driven out. there is a way of having public working class housing. very mysterous ways. guess what's you make the billionaires pay for it. san francisco has more billionaires than any other city. the mayor of san francisco and the politicians are not interested in going after the billionaires. now there is a city that solved the problem, vienna. if people want to google how
vienna solved its housing crisis they had a housing crisis worse than san francisco in 1919 and they did build working class housing. they built 200,000 units in vienna by taxing the wealth i. but that seems to be off the table. 20% is more gentrification. that's what that is. only 20% and those affordable units, i'm sure, that poor working class students at city college and other places are not going to be able to have get into those affordable units. affordability by your standards excludes poor, working class people. there are a lot of signs up in san francisco for workers. workers are needed. but they're not able to get them. why is that? they can't afford to live here. we're not talking about high-paid workers, we're talking about regular, working people. service workers, hotel workers, they can't afford to live here so they're forced to commute. you are forcing people to commute to live in san francisco because they can't afford to live here.
this had been rejected. we should demand 100% affordability and say the billions should pay for it and it should be public housing and not developed on the developers who want to make a large profit in san francisco. >> thank you. next speaker, please. >> calvin. steering committee of affordable divisadero. i'm very concerned about the process or the lack of process that the planning department went through in evaluating this project. in evaluating the initial rezoning that more than doubled the allowable density with no recommendation for increased affordability. all of the pressure for increased affordability came from the community. now we're being told enough is enough. 20% is fine.
shut up. step aside. no, it's not fine. we can't imagine something better and we should get something berrien and it should start with your staff. how can you possibly consider giving not one, not two, not throw but five continual use permits which are predicated upon the notion that they are necessary and beneficial to a community when your staff has not addressed or analyzed a legitimate community plan that lays out a comprehensive development. no one is talking about not developing this site. no one is talking about not building housing on this site. that's horse cookie. we're all about housing. we're all about creating communities that work. we're all about dealing with
climate change. building more market rate housing to add to the 70,000 units we have approved but not been built because most people can't afford them is not a solution. it's a slogan. it's a narrative. we're about solutions. you should have addressed a legitimate concern on the part of 500 residents of this part of the world who want housing able to be accessed by them. >> next speaker, please. >> thank you, good afternoon, commissioners. my name is cheryl brinkman. i serve on the sfmta board of directors but i'm here as a private citizen and neighbor to speak in approval. the live in a fantastic neighborhood. i agree with the gentleman who owns the bar de barbershop it's
friendly. we're transit rich. wore walkable, bike able. there's so many neighborhoods serving businesses. i am quite confident that the new neighbors that will welcome in aren't going to be driving a lot because you can really accomplish so much of your life without getting into a car in our neighborhood. so i just want to say i'm totally in support of this project and i look forward to the gas station which is a big cara tractor going away and to welcoming new neighbors to our neighborhood and thank you so much for your service because i know serving on a commission is a labor of love and it takes a lot of time and it is frequently very thank less so thank you all for doing this and we look forward to more neighbors in our neighborhood. >> thank you. >> i'm lawrence lee i serve on the board of the merchants and neighborhood association. we work towards inclusive and a great place to live and enjoy which she just mentioned. we also support diversity in our
neighborhoods as well as affordability. so the current experience at the project site is extremely bad. it's hazardous to pedestrians and people who bicycle. it's just frankly unpleasant. it really does hurt our merchants corridor. we find that this project is a valuable solution to these problems. in 2015, the ncp zoning for this area, we support that increase of density and especially commercial corridors like this that are well served by transit and we do support the 186 units that will be going in as well as going the height limits so maximizing new residents that can move into our neighborhoods
and we support and in 2018, valerie brown extended the prolonged community process and required 20% on site affordable housing units with the community and we support this percentage as well as as well as the parking ratios acceptable so i want to note that the developer has been an active participant in our community since 2015 and we believe that the current design emigrates as well and we feel the community process up to this point has been extensive and exhaustive and solid and we ask for no more delay on approving this project. >> thank you, next speaker, please.
>> thank you for take up this opportunity today. i'm in support of the proposal in front of you and david met with me a couple of years ago and he had become aware of museum of future sports and what we were doing with kids and drone education and introducing me to charles davis at the human rights commission who has become a founding partner of the museum of futures and it showed her appreciation for how kids in stem education can make a difference in equity. david support us with multiple c.b.o.s including the hamilton families community center and collective impact and players filipino center and some others and i just wanted to say that they have done a job of putting the community first and showing their support for an inclusive environment that can really make a difference here in san
francisco. i absolutely support this project and while there's differences of opinion about how many below market rates make sense more than zero is what we're all over here and moving this project forward is imperative. thank you so much. >> good afternoon, president and commissioners. my name is julia and i am a mother of two children and my husband and i have lived on oak street for 25 years. and we are thrilled about this project because we walk daily to get our kids and if you are not walking we're bikeing and we're taking the 24 or scooting from mckinley so my first grader now and takes them to my preschooler. both schools are on the divisadero corridor and we are
daily walking by this gas station and the development. we're really excited to see it change something good for climate and the neighborhood. and i'm also president of the lower hate merchants and neighborhood association. we are in support of this project and we've been asking tough questions and trying to work with the developer and the community to get it to the next step. we're really excited about how this is going to present a wonderful image of replacing a gas station that's part of climate change with housing and the affordability of the housing is great. it's a good first step as a lot of colleagues have mentioned earlier. we can do more but there's a lot of benefit to this project. it will do a lot for the city and the community, looking forward to walking by it and taking my kids to the community and continuing to be part of the merchants and the art and the activities and the group. thank you very much. i want to support this project and all the work that's been done behind it. >> thank you. >> next speaker, please.
>> good afternoon, commissioners. todd david on behalf of the san francisco housing action coalition. so i just want to point out that the b.m.r. rate was set through a really rebust community process led by supervisor brown and it was passed by the board of supervisors unanimously. so the rate was a pretty good process and i've been sitting in the audience and listening to public comment and this pitting of affordable housing versus market rate housing. ok, well, somehow market rate housing means unaffordable housing. you know what, if you were a teacher, if you were a construction worker, if you were a firefighters, or if you were a first responder, and you live in san francisco, you live in market rate housing. you earn too much money to support subsidized affordable housing. to qualify for subsidized affordable housing. when we say we have market rate
housing, plenty, what we're saying, what that really is saying is you know what, we don't need anymore teachers to live here. we don't need firefighters to live here. we don't need construction workers to live here or anymore first responders. market rate housing is any housing above subsidized affordable. when we as an organization say we need housing at all levels of affordable, that's what we're talking about. we have not built enough housing at any level over the last 30 years in san francisco. and the groups that have squeezed out are the middle income workers. the firefighters, the teachers, the first responders. thank you. >> thank you. any other public comment on this item? with that, public comment is now
closed. commissioner hillis. >> excuse me. thank you all for coming. to give my district 5 credentials i have lived in district 5 for 25 plus years and i've lived four blocks from this site for the last 12 years. it's a great neighborhood. it isn't affordable. unfortunately, it's one of those neighborhoods that is being gentrified rapidly. not by development. we haven't seen any development to tell you the truth along divisadero or in this neighborhood. affordable or otherwise. so it's good to see, i think, all neighbors agree that this site, as well as hopefully the two gas stations that are to the north of this and some under utilized sites on divisadero, should and could be used for housing. i would certainly support this project. 50% affordable and 100% affordable and unfortunately we don't see those projects that have that level of affordability unless this city is involved.
if the city owns the property or the city is providing some benefits to the project. this project much like market in octavia went threw a rezoning where density controls were lifted the same that happened along market street. in many places along market octavia. we got up to 15% affordable level so here we're doing better and it's great. we do need housing. we need housing at all levels. i would certainly support affordable housing here but that's not what we're looking at. we're looking a the a project that's significant in the amount of housing it's going to produce. we're at the highest levels we see in market rate projects. if we want to get to 50% i would support developing other sites like the gas stations or mcdonald's in the hate that would give us the ability to do that and we need to have a serious conversation about how
we finance things like prop 13 to give us more revenue to build more affordable housing. i agree with the speakers who talked about additional taxation to suppose sort affordable housing. i appreciate all the debate. i'm glad most people believe this is a good site for housing. i certainly believe it is at the levels and the density is being proposed. it's great that the neighborhood groups, the divisadero merchants in lower hate agree and endorse this project. it's not often we have a project along this corridor. we had a yoga studio that got a lot of debate and disagreement amongst those groups all grow this is a good project. i can't endorse it more and i'm very supportive.
>> commissioner fung. >> i'm accepting of the 20% in terms of the affordable units. i'm also accept tive of many of the exceptions that have been proposed. i disagree with the exception for both limits. i also disagree to a lesser extent with the exception for the bay window expansion. the bay expansion. >> can you elaborate more on those two items?
>> the more important one of course is driving the density of this project. the explanation that were used within the materials provided addresses the only very little in terms of if you didn't give them the boat exception then along divisadero they need to have two buildings with a separation. in my opinion, that is not necessarily bad depending on how they really want to design it instead of a cartoon they used to demonstrate that particular item. the problem with the bulk exception here is you create something that is extreme will he large and the context is not reflective of that. so i'm hesitant to support a housing project which i think
everybody wants and i am concurrent with. but yet creating a visual issue which down the line is something i'm not supportive of. >> commissioner richards. >> commissioner moore. >> commissioner moore. >> i am sensitive to the question as to whether or not the planning process itself created the basic appropriate to the large size when we have a change from land use from gas station to housing, we have the opportunity to take a very deep look at how we zone and what we geget in return for zoning.
i'm not sure we have crossed all is and the ts. there's the issue of quantity and quality. looking through the plans, i'm concerned about what i see to be the two bedroom category which in this particular case is a very sensitive spot for me because they are bedrooms using interior core doers for access to light. i wanted to ask ms. wood as to whether or not the department reviewed it and came across this particular issue? i know there have been over the years d.b.i. not catching this. would you mind answering my question with respect to that? >> thank you, commissioner moore. yes, we came across this issue at the very, very early stage of the design and we brought it up to the project sponsor and i
mean, the department, we are concerned about quality of living spaces. we have conveyed the departments' comments to the sponsor and the architects. while building departments they regulate the rooms and how they should function and they should be designed. accordingly, the sponsor and the architect have met with billing department and have tried to have all the rooms comply with the building department standards. at this can't have the architect explain a little bit more of how the rooms are laid out. >> perhaps that would be a good idea. again, quantity and quality and equity is extremely important. if any of us would have lived in a building of this size with
second bedroom facing an interior hallway and the light in that hallway was on all night shining into your bedroom i wonder how you feel about that. perhaps the architect could explain that to us. can you get into the detail of that if you don't mind? >> thank you for the question. we have found over the last 15 years starting around 2008-2009 that a lot of projects in the city the units are getting smaller and with the requirement of a two bed rooms, a number of buildings have been built and they've been received very well on the market and they rent well and they're very livable and popular. however, we do understand the california building code requirement for natural light. so 50% of the wall that separates the bedroom from the living area needs to be open to the passing of natural light so glass walls and doors and you
can see many of those units on the market. certainly the site permit has not been submitted and all the details of the plans are not complete. in review of the plans there's ample space to reconfigure things to improve those areas. not all the details of the construction documents can be completed at this early time. we're very confident that on other projects in the city with similar lay outs they have natural light and air however we do acknowledge that not all two-bedroom units face an ex ter year wall and have windows that is part of the reality of most if not all of the projects that are coming before the commissioner and growth approved. >> i just like to respond that this commission has been bringing the subject up frequently and if the department has brought it to your attention i would have hoped that you perhaps would have addressed that today or have an answer other than that you may be able
to revise those plans. there's one architect in the city that has done rooms successfully. that's david baker whose units we have approved. in this case, i am wondering, because you are exposing them to a double interior bedrooms that it has not ban achieved. as you know, it's a matter of preportion width to depth and this case i see windows being narrow to the street sides and deeper to the core of the building. which goes in the direction of what mr. fung said about one building was two buildings but i am concerned about that and i wanted the commission to be aware of it. i am concerned, as we always are, that the over all percentage of affordability is low and since this is a -- thank you so much. i didn't acknowledge you. and since it's a representatival
building, i am more concerned were in deed after a year of approval, of on site b.m.r. rental, this commission took a stand to basically accept a fee waiver just a year later based on the idea that the low market rate rentals weren't possible to be renting to the people who are intended anyway. so i'm sitting here a little bit tongue tied to support this project and we may be hearing from you a year from today when you are asking us to fee out. between the low percentage and the possibility of later fee out, i am sitting a little bit on the fence. [ please stand by ]
>> commissioner johnson? >> thank you. i want to name my general support for this project. the divisadero corridor is a special corridor to me. it is my sister neighbourhood. i have spent time on it over the last ten years that i have been in san francisco. i have friends who live there who don't live in the city anymore. i think through that time, i have really respected the community processes that have happened, and really wanting to make sure that the community that is built continues to reflect those values. i remember the beginning of the process of envisioning what this
gas station might be, and have heard from friends that i have that are merchants who live on the corner door, and how they have been able to engage on this project. i think the first thing i looked at when i heard that this project was coming to us was looking at the affordability and really thinking about what we know of a what affordability looks like on projects, market rate projects, projects that are subsidized by the city. we had one 50% affordable project that was a gift to the city from a developer, but every other one, we are usually fighting tooth and nail to get anywhere near 20%. we have 20% on this project. i hear the concern that has been brought up around seeing out. as a commission, we debated that item last week quite a bit, and given some of the evidence that was before us, we made -- we
talked about the right decision. on this, if, for whatever reason , the project does come back, we still would have to debate that and make a decision on it, and i think, you know, i don't think the circumstances here are the same as the ones last week. i feel comfortable supporting this project. >> thank you. i am supportive of this project. i did have some questions from the developer. it pertains to the relocation of the tenant and the unit that is slated to be demolished. i understand the units are being replaced, but i did not hear from you about what the plan was for the tenants where they are right now in the interim. >> yes, madam president. i have been meeting with the tenants personally, and their families, quite a bit since the beginning of the year to get to know them as people and what
their living situation is, and we were aware that what is in the city's records and what is actually there on site are quite different, so we have tried to look at it very holistically. for instance, we have one person that, technically, they are in 475 square feet, it is very small, and they carved out multiple bedrooms, that my architect had a heart attack over. we said we can't just put them in 475 feet. we will put them in one of our three bedroom units that is in 1060-1062 oak which is slid over we have another family that has created a kind of mezzanine, and there's a lot of people in there we decided they should also probably have a three-bedroom. we are not the ones making the decisions. we are working with their
attorney at t.h.c., and then the other ones, you have a couple people in two bedrooms. so those three units, we thought , they probably go into the new building, and so we have allocated that, but we have made sure that it is their decision. we have worked with the supervisor's office and the mayor's office so people can see our internal working papers off of the page. we said that during the interim of construction, which probably starts in about a year if we it were approved today, we will take care of money for them, along with a letter to get them into interim housing in the meantime. i have had good meetings with city real estate, which is on divisadero. we have mutual colleagues. their head of operations has worked with immigrant families in the juvenile system.
he has an extensive property management and leasing background, and they can help find things within the neighbourhood. i've also engaged with the fillmore centre. if we just needed to find something, because we run out of time, but i don't think that will be necessary because we have a full year to work with them, so i understand it is stressful to find something for everybody, particularly if you were living over there and, you know, they call me on micelle when they want to talk, and we go through things. >> i'm sorry, i just wanted a specific answer from you. so is the difference between what they are paying now and what they can get on the market between now and the replacement units, are you committing that you will subsidize that difference? >> yes. they would pay what they are paying now plus the allowable escalator that the mayor's
office of housing has for cost, they would pay that. we would pay delta. >> okay. >> sorry for the long-winded response. >> thank you. i appreciate the answer. commissioner more? >> i am just looking back on my notes from may 23rd. there was also an issue of the union labour i think, at that moment, was not answered. have we received an answer to that question? >> can you articulate the question again, commissioner more? >> when we continued this issue last time, there was an issue that this project had not committed to union nate -- union labour. i think somebody in the audience , in public comment mentioned that as well. my question is, are we -- as we are supporting this, has that been answered, yes or no?
could the project sponsor answer that so we have it for the record? >> thank you, commissioner more. all the projects that i have done in the past with the 900 units, they have had union labour. we are in active talks with the carpenters, and we plan to work with labour as we move into the site permit phase so i know what it is we can design. >> thank you. >> one of the things i want to say before we conclude this debate, divisadero was significantly out of zoned. it was greater than 20%. that is what started the whole process that took a long time to resolve. one that happened -- when that happened, members of the community said, you have given away all this additional development potential. you need to go back in and understand what you have given away and recapture a portion of that, which started the feasibility study on fillmore,
divisadero turning them into n.c.t. from n.c.d. i wanted to make sure the public is not out there thinking, this take so long, four years, this is one of the most continued projects i have seen in the five years i have been on this commission. it doesn't seem like there was a month that doesn't go by that this item was up for continuance i want people to be aware of that. one last question, the divisadero and the feasibility study that came out for the up zoning on affordable, what was it in divisadero for rental? >> thank you, commissioner richards. feasibility studies that were done showed a range for rental on divisadero from 20 to 23% in that depended on whether rents were going to escalate at different levels over the coming years. this study showed that the projects had not begun prior to
the up zoning, prior to that have a higher rate, so much of a home s.f. project. this is one of the projects that have been in before 2018 so they are at the 20% that you all approved several months ago. >> great, things. >> commissioner hillis? >> i think commissioner richards raises a good point about that legislation. i think we debated it and we had it here a couple of times. i think this commission unanimously passed it at that rate. the board subsequently approved unanimously. it is one of the highest rates that we have that was not a increase. this was primarily a bulk increase, similar to what we have done in other neighbourhoods like eastern neighbourhoods and market. i think this does everything we are asking it to do. it replaces our carwash with much-needed housing in the neighbourhood, in a neighbourhood where we have not seen all ten of cars. i am fully supportive and would move to approve.
>> commissioner johnson? >> really quickly, i want to address the gentleman who is a neighbour of the project to felt like hasn't gotten a chance to speak with a project sponsor. i would like the project sponsor to make adequate time to sit down and speak with him going forward. >> project sponsor? do you need his name? i have it right here. >> i know mr. johnson. i offered to meet mr. johnson on january 28th at wholesome bakery, which two of his neighbours, leslie and mary who are here, and he was unable to come. i also invited him to come february 4th to meet with the architects. he didn't come. i think he had a surgery. i offered my best wishes.
he called me right before we were continued from may 23rd, and there was so much going on. i said, you know, let's figure out a time to get together, and then we wound up getting continued, so we finally met this monday. we met for an hour at planning. i continued after with him for a good 40 minutes, and i could share the different things we discussed, but i would want his permission because i imagine a lot of that is private. >> i think it would be nice to have another coffee within. thank you. >> there is a motion, but i did not hear a second. >> nobody seconded it. >> second. >> if there's nothing further, commissioner his, there is a motion that has been seconded to approve this matter with conditions. on that motion... [roll call]
>> so moved, that motion passes 5-2. >> okay. >> very good, commissioners. that will place us on item -- which item are we on? item six, excuse me, we are calling item nine out of order. 610 through 698 brennan street, informational presentation. >> jonas, is there is a desire to take a really small break. five minutes. better.
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