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and we submitted for the recommendations which you have in front of you. we also met with monica, to talk about how to get more youth input into this hearing a couple of weeks ago. thank you all again. our main priority and our main stake in presenting this hearing is to make sure that there is accurate accountability and transparency from the school district as well as the police department to the community, when a case is being reviewed and updates to the legislation. this hearing is held in late june. we often want to have positive consequences. it is not like as if p.d. gets a flak for everything that is happening, but also with the administrators that are taking the calls and bringing them in as well. what we want to have is we want
to have a mandatory push for the sfpd to hire entry-level s.r.o.s with a trauma informed lens that centers on youth as well as their healing and voices throughout the entire process a pill. we highlighted strongly believe in bringing community voices into the language of the m.o.u. so justice and equity lens is honored throughout this. it is about clarity and the legislation. it is about having clear examples and clear procedures. so because we don't have enough time, we were broke down all of
our three main themes. this really comes from balboa for us where one of the students was arrested in front of their classmates with guns pointed at them. that is definitely not a private -- that is not some thing we want. the m.o.u. does not provide any guidelines. we want the next m.o.u. to specify where the location is, who might see it, and we hope that all sites can have a designated site for youth to be arrested if that does have to occur. number 2 is to make this document accessible to community and include community oversight. personally, i have been an sfusd student for over 11 years. every single year, i've signed the form the student handbook that acknowledges that i know and understand every sickle policy.
i would have to go on the sfusd website, find it, especially if a student doesn't fully understand english, it is incredibly hard and inaccessible while this doesn't actually relate to the legal language of the m.o.u., i really want to see this m.o.u. within the student handbook so students actually have it accessible to them. also, in section 25, only the sfusd student advisory council has the power to really submit grievances about police and any conduct within schools, however, we want to expand this power to all students. my students don't know who their stuff representative is, and if they are in middle or elementary school, they don't have a representative. our final one is to prioritize grading a safer school climate for students through police conduct and procedures. our main issue is urging s.r.o.s to not include weapons in their everyday uniforms. these can be incredibly traumatizing to students and i know if i was taking a test and
i saw an officer walking around with a gun or a baton, i would not be able to fully focus on my studies. instead we would really urge s.r.o.s to use restorative justice practices like our sfusd teachers. >> again, this was a brief synopsis of a recommendations. the final list of our recommendations is included in the packets and have already been submitted to you as well. i want to thank you first and foremost, as well as you for coming out today. thank you so much to supervisor walton as well as safai for calling this hearing. >> while this is a document between the sfusd administration and sfpd, we hope this document puts youth first and ensures
that they all have a safe school environment that they can learn and grow in. we also hope that sfpd and sfusd can provide us with a very transparent timeline into when the community can get this update and still provide further insight. thank you. >> thank you both for your wonderfully precise and direct presentation. he did a wonderful job. that is a point we will end with in talking about in terms of when the m.o.u. will be finalized, and what more community input there would be and what opportunity there will be to present it back in a public setting. i think we will be asking for this item to be continued to the call of the chair so we can actually have a final presentation on the m.o.u. to the entire body. the last presenter we will call up is kevin. from coleman advocates. did i say that wrong?
>> i work at coleman advocates for children and youth. thank you for inviting me to present today. i wanted to start by greeting the trustees, commissioners, and supervisors. thank you for not letting this issue fadeaway. the issues we see in our schools are mirrored in our city. black and brown bodies are punished disproportionately by our systems. i think that is something we want to acknowledge as we enter into this conversation. i wanted to start for a personal story. i attended sfusd and city college. when i was in middle school, there was a fight on the bus that needed a police response. the police came, me and a couple of my friends were walking away from the scene of the incident where the bus had stopped at and
kicked everyone off. the police officer drove up onto the curb, jumped out, made us lay down on the ground, i feel like the police officer pulled out his gun on us and that is something that still sticks with me today. clearly the officer wasn't trying to traumatize me or harming me, he was trying to respond to an incident of an assault or violence, but that left a lasting memory. it burned into my mind, something that is still with me today. when we think about the situation at balboa, there's a lot of different responses that we wish we would have seen, and hopefully in the future we can see. i think we know this is an emergency -type situation, but we want to see a slower response we want to see the school community be prepared for what will happen so that school staff can play a role in making sure that students' rights aren't violated, and we can have many supportive and responsible adults around as possible. not to forget that we also have similar instances at june jordan , and when i was someone who had recently graduated, we
had a incident at thurgood marshall where the police came to the school and some students were assaulted, and students were arrested. we have had these incidences, and it is not because the police are trying to go somewhere to start trouble or cause problems, if they're going to deal with an emergency. we do not have the right tools in place to deal with what is actually happening at the school site. at coleman, we really want to see the city as well as the rest of the different represented bodies here, the college board, the school district, identify additional responses for emergency crisis is that don't meet the level of a police response so that we can have more control and prioritize the overall well-being of everyone in the space and be the ones that are deciding when he said happen in that moment. some the recommendations we have specifically to what happened is an annual walk-through of an emergency response plan with the school and student leadership so
they can know what is supposed to happen in those moments. the ability for parents, for students to text or call their parents before being questioned for there to be a walk-through of the protocols for arrests for minors under the age of 14, which is something we would hope you never have to see happen. we would have to see the expansion of the rights for legal advisement, prereading of the miranda rights to all students within the public school system and not just students who are below 17, just so everyone knows they have that extra protection. additionally, we would like to see the sfpd take part in a restorative process with the school after these incidents happen to repair the harm and to repair the community.
is community members who participated in that process. we are advising versus playing a direct role. we would love to see the city and county of san francisco and enter into a partnership or m.o.u. with the school district and maybe even the college board to really address how do we get the services that the city has into schools, and for the students who really need them to make sure that people are getting the things that they need to be supported and be successful. i think we can all agree that whenever a student or young person has to be arrested, we all fail and the system has falling -- fallen short of meeting the needs for them. i also want to highlight the materials we gave out with you, showing the connection between school push out and gentrification and how it is not just a san francisco issue, but it is something that is going on both nationally and throughout the region. and finally i would say this. we cannot rely on the m.o.u. with the police department and the school district to solve all
of these issues. we have to figure out something that is larger and more overarching. it will bring in public health services, physical health services and everything that our families and students need to be successful and not just wait for an emergency to bring in these resources. thank you so much for the five minutes. >> thank you, cabin. that is the end of our presenters today. thank you for the public for all of your patients. thank you for this. if people want to line up, we can begin to take public comment each presenter will have two minutes. >> you can approach the mic. >> hello. my name is griffin schmidt. i attend the school of arts.
i think the changes made in this m.o.u. are very much for the better, and with the right modifications, will make our school safer for our youth. a couple points i feel need clarification is how the school 's handle -- how the schools handle the aftereffects of the incident like what happened at balboa. to elaborate, many students and parents were led to false accusations against a student in question. so how will schools further ensure the proper information is spread among their communities? additionally, i think that teachers should be aware of the criteria required to call the police before suggesting the call to school admin. lastly, before i started my internship, providing -- revising this m.o.u., i had never even heard of an s.r.o. they have never been to my school, i have never met one. i think they should have a much more active role in schools. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker.
>> good morning, my name is jennifer. i go to john o'connell high school. >> pulled the mic a little closer to your mouth. there you go. there we go. >> i have some recommendations for the m.o.u. i feel like this should be -- they should be no arrests made if it is avoidable. the communities insecure with police presence at schools. the m.o.u. should require stricter office guidelines for officer conduct. reducing police discretion in situations in reducing the chances of misunderstanding and disagreement regarding the procedure. i don't feel comfortable with police around because, you know, i have been having bad days at school and they feel like they are going to push me against the wall or something. i don't know. when we need the police, they are not present, for example, we had a big fight at o'connell where the mom was involved in the fight and there were no police officers. if we are going to have police at our schools, they should be
working with our security so they know when they should be there and when not. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good morning, everybody. i have a couple of questions to ask about the s.r.o. how often are s.r.o. his required to visit they're assigned schools, and what hours do s.r.o.s work? i will also like to ask because we do not have any s.r.o.s at galileo, and if they were there, after school and at big events like football games and basketball games. some students don't feel safe without someone with authority being at the school, so i feel that if there are more s.r.o.s at the school, we can do a lot more events without a fight breaking out for someone getting jacked or something.
s.r.o.s should be there so students and teachers can feel safer. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> hello, supervisors, commissioners, and trustees. my name is charlie, i'm also on the san francisco youth commission and i'm here to read a couple of public comments from individuals who couldn't be present today. james who is an sfusd student said the thought of a police presence on my school's campus puts me on pins and needles, not that i see school as a safe place, but the presence of police restricts the extent towards which i feel calm, relaxed, and prepared to engage in academic and social activities. it will always be a part of me that will be nervous and overly cautious in the presence of police. i remember when i was in third grade, i was coming out of class and there were three police officers standing outside my classroom and all of the black and brown kids ran away from them. years later, i still remember
this moment and it is a perfect example of why police should be limited in school areas. it takes away the feelings of safety that all children at school should get specially for black and brown students. and makes school a less safe place. our own commissioner said that students deserve to feel safe in their schools. the sfusd, as fpd m.o.u. should reflect the student first values that all schools should have and the students' voice and school safety be the transformative justice committee of the san francisco youth commission urges you to make sure that the m.o.u. is valuing the voices of the students in the sfusd and is contributing to an environment where all students feel safe to learn. we also encourage the school district to invest in youth cognitive development trainings for all s.r.o.s and officers to interact with students frequently. this m.o.u. is just the first step in ensuring that san francisco schools are safe zones for all students who attend them thank you. >> thank you. next speaker.
>> having police on campus and arresting adolescents, these are kids. they are not adults. but having police around and police being called by someone, whether it is a teacher or s.r.o.s, someone who is working there that is part of the police department is outrageous. you are treating little kids like criminals. this is the first step which starts to process -- start the process of a kid being tied up in the juvenile detention center , which we just shut down. the detention center is supposed to be for little kids, and anybody that has experience can look at that place and tell that is a prison. that place looks like pelican bay, which is a maximum prison for convicted convicts who commit crimes and convicted for
crimes such as murder, rape, strong arm robbery, et cetera. violations of the california penal code. when there is a kid that is misbehaving, you should call the parent, and have the parent come address the issue immediately. if you have to, suspend the kid for a day or two so he can get counciling from his parents. we all know what it is like to have the police called. a lot of times you are calling the police to help and you thank you are doing the right thing, and next thing you know, the police is shooting their guns at the person that you are trying to help. that just happened in walnut creek where a person had a mental disability and his grandmother thought she was doing the right thing, and the police ended up shooting the guy several times and murdering him. then you catch it on tape and you look and see that the person was running away from the cops. the cops stood up there and lied and said they felt threatened
and that he was running towards them. that is not a situation where the police should be involved. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good afternoon. my name is denise. i am from huckleberry youth program and also a member of the jj p.a. thank you for holding this hearing today. i would really like to remind everybody that being arrested for a young person is a crisis. and that crisis is elevated extremely when they are arrested in schools. i hear that there is a review process that happens as a result of the arrest. i would like to ask that that review process include community members. it feels like it is currently an in-house review process. i would -- i was part of a safe schools resolution committee years ago where we reviewed every arrest that happened in
school to make sure that the school administration, as well as as fpd were following the guidelines of the m.o.u. i think that that should be added. i also want to include in this statement, but i am not sure whether requests -- where the request came from probation officers to be placed in our middle schools to do groups and cbt training. at least this is the information that i got. i just want to remind the school board that there are many providers in the community that offered those services and would be more than happy to come into the schools and provide it for our young people. i would also like the s. fpd, as they are reviewing they're know your rights bulletin and the department general orders of which i was a part of creating four years.
that they also include the community in that process. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good morning, supervisors, commissioners, representatives from the school department and the police department. i speak today for the school district in the police department to listen to the concerns of everyone here when you update the m.o.u., which is presently lacking significant sections. for example, when it comes to policy around bus stops during afterschool hours, which are important places where this can occur. the current language of the m.o.u. should be revisited to outline policy and procedures as specifically as possible. whether it is using the word shall instead of showed, or simply putting out a more comprehensive policy. this m.o.u. should aim to cover the totality of police interactions between places in
and around education because i think it is seriously lacking. the m.o.u. should be constantly reviewed and updated, especially given significant unease about police conduct amongst members of our community. i appreciate the update presented today. by no means should the document to start the department's ability to keep our schools safe there was, for example, a murder suicide when i was at ucla, and of course, we wanted nothing but the police to have all the power to secure the situation and keep us safe. with that in mind, i ask the school district and police department to provide a significantly more comprehensive m.o.u. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good morning. i am a school district employee of over 20 years.
i'm also a product of the school district. my son was at the incident at balboa high school. one of the things i have been involved in -- they have all been the same s.r.o.s out of ingleside station at june jordan , at academy soda, i struggled with a young man with a loaded pistol, and then this here at balboa. the other two incidents impacted me, but this issue this year, it was my son. it totally impacted our family. it impacted me, my relationship with the school district, and it impacted the way that a look at things differently. so i ask you to pleas hold people accountable to when things like this happen. we have been fortunate that nobody has been killed. please be ready for when it does one of the things that i do ask as we do better training for staff, for line staff. i have been in the district 20 years and i have never been trained. the con -- the people that get
trained are the administrators. i administrator trained as last year but now she is leaving. so now we need to keep continuing making sure people are trained correctly. when the incident happened at balboa, they said that there were councilors in mental health nobody was sent out for six days i had the e-mails communicating with the department of health lady at the clinic. they were sure to go on the news and say there was councillors there, but there was no therapy there. i was in the back. we need to do a better job of that. we also need to have a check off list so when this does happen, it ministry there's no what they need to do, and make sure all parties sign off every year that they read and understood the m.o.u. it is not fair that for people to have to deal with kids and not know what is expected of them. so with that, i thank you guys for this and hopefully we will create some change to make our schools safer. >> thank you. next speaker.
>> good afternoon, good morning. my name is deirdre. i am a teacher librarian at malcolm x academy and also a parent of a junior at burton high school and who -- my son frequently gets into altercations and i feel fortunate to say he talks to me quite a bit about his life, and i know that when he does get in altercations with other students , the last person in the world that he would ever want to go to, or have involved is a police officer. i know that we all understand what i mean when, you know, when i say we have to consider police conduct in our communities, particularly black and brown communities a public health issue because too many people
are harmed. our black and brown people, our community members, are harmed. what i want to say is that the community needs more opportunity to look at this memorandum of understanding that is being presented today and have opportunities to give feedback. thank you. >> thank you so much. next speaker. >> good morning. my name is annabella. i'm an attorney would legal services for children. we represent young people in it dependency court, immigration matters, guardianship, and expulsion proceedings which frequently run parallel when there is an incident on campus that requires police involvement two things, first, this issue, of course, is incredibly visible right now because of the incident at balboa, but i want to flag that this extends further than that. we had an m.o.u. pass in 2014,
it has been five years now, and we are still trying to figure it out. i want to highlight this is an issue the community knows very well and that we should appreciate there has been some involvement there of trying to get that community voice into this. i also want to talk about the question about court involved youth and the notification requirements. in particular, i would suggest the involvement of contacting h.s.a. social workers. each dependent has a social worker assigned to work with them and has a trusting relationship. in particular, it is great to contact resource families if a young person is any family where there is an adult who is able to respond and we could have young people who only have social workers is a constant in their lives. they also have quote -- court-appointed attorneys. i would also recommend involving those people as well. i want to highlight the agreements like the m.o.u. are only as good as they are being honored. is much as i appreciate the willingness to listen to the
community and the willingness to have a complaint process, ultimately, there are no guarantees that a complaint -- these complaints could result in any changed behavior. on behalf of the young people that we work with, i am requesting more robust measures of accountability in the event of violation of this m.o.u. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> i am tracy. i'm here today as a parent and i'm here to talk about what happened that day at balboa. there are clearly a lot of things that we can learn from, but i also want to point out that there was an incident at june jordan where things were handled so well. apologies were made, students had community circles, there are some great ways of how to address this. in the balboa incident, it just did not happen. there was no restorative circle with the family. as a matter of fact, when i went back to take the student to school, we were told that we
couldn't have a restorative circle, or reentry or the principal and administrator was there. i know from experience of the incident at june jordan had the community reaction that we needed. the way we want to see things happen in the community and in the school district. if we are really about restorative practice, i want to say for the record, the harm has not been restored. this happened almost a year ago. there was never an apology by the school district. although, board members and commissioners have apologized, nothing from the school district there was nothing for the students to say, hey, this was not the kid that was portrayed all over the media. hey, i'm sorry your kid was looking like he was a criminal all over t.v. there was none of that that happened. we need more training for
teachers and other administrators, the police. i agree with a lot of the recommendations, and lastly, the s.r.o.s, like, what are there schedules? can they work more games in the evenings? we want to be able to have an m.o.u. that works for everyone and we need more student input. there's a captive audience of students, and you only have 100 people give input is really just not acceptable. thank you. >> thank you. next speaker. >> good morning. my name is lydia. diego is my son. i have several recommendations on this m.o.u., but i would first like to address the fact that i believe there was a lack of community outreach in the sense that having 100 people comment on this issue is a little disturbing to me, being that there are so many schools here and so many parents would love to be able to provide feedback. i also would like to note that the schools where the community meetings were located at were not a neighborhoods where more
of the kids affected by this m.o.u. live. so that is an area of concern for me as well. the other thing is, one of my recommendations is i would like for this m.o.u. or the children 's rights to be addressed in some type of assembly to kids at the beginning of the year so that every year, they can be explained their rights, so they know in the event that something happens, what to do, and what their rights are. second, a big thing for me is i want staff, if there is an event that another traumatic incident happens, that the staff involved are required to take some type of mental health training or counciling to help them cope with their feelings about what happened because i can guarantee you that my son was mistreated throughout the rest of the year that he was at balboa and any little action that they felt required discipline was
completely taken out of proportion. any disciplinary action that was taken was not in line with disciplinary policies. i believe that that stemmed from whatever feelings where, you know, still impacting them. those are two things i would like to see, but i would love to thank each and every one of you for being here and being part of all the conversations that are happening, specifically supervisor safai who has been a tremendous help to our family, supervisor walton, and also supervisor ronen in proceeding with the ordinance. [indiscernible] >> thank you so much. next speaker. >> good afternoon, supervisors, commissioners, and trustees. i'm here today wearing many hats i'm a grandmother of a child in an sfusd school, i care about what happens at her school. i am a mother of a former student at thurgood marshall, and we have a huge police
incident which prompted the redo of the m.o.u. that you are now looking at. it has been revised quite a few times since that incident in 2002 and i'm here today wearing my essay -- sciu hat for the san francisco unified -- san francisco unified school district. i want to know and appreciate the comments made by some very specific groups. huckleberry youth, they gave some really good outstanding comments. advocates, take these comments seriously. if you have forgotten some, go back and review the tapes. the youth commission also had great comments and there were many folks also from other groups, patty, here as well from the public defender's office. all of these are so necessary and need to be put into this document. city college needs to have a joint m.o.u. so we can create a network all across city college
campuses that are mirroring what is happening in our sfusd school sights. they need to be included in this process more robustly. i also appreciate that the department of police accountability is here with materials so that -- one of the things they also want to say is kevin truitt is retiring if i am correct. who will take over this legacy of work now that he is leaving the school district? i am hoping this person is on board right now so can start transferring that work over. it is deep and it is a lot of history that we will lose when he leaves, you know, nothing against kevin, there were ups and downs around this, but we need to make sure that -- >> think he's a much. any other members of the public who wish to comment on this item please come forward. seeing then, public comment is
closed. i just want to think members of the public for their patients today. i know we had a lot of presenters. this hearing was a number of months in the making, so i appreciate your patience. i also appreciate all the different departments that came out with my staff and supervisor walton staff to put this together. just to respect everybody's time , if we have any follow-up comments or questions, i just want to keep it about the m.o.u. i think there's a lot of things we could dive into today based on the data, based on the conversations that we are having , i think we learned a lot today. i want to thank specifically the families coming out and sharing their story. i know this has been a tough year for them, but i would like to say i think there is some light at the end of the tunnel. i think there are some really good, positive conversations happening, and i think this m.o.u. is better because of that
incident, because of your engagement, because he didn't walk away, and you insisted on making sure that your voice was heard, and the voice of your son was hurt, and i think we are all going to be better for it. i would just like to summarize a few things that i heard. having, in terms of the recommendations, first i want to know, maybe from the sfusd and people that are in charge of that, when they are planning on having the m.o.u. finalized, what other opportunities will there be for the community to be involved in the process of ensuring this m.o.u. is finalized in a more inclusive way, as much as we can. one of the really strong recommendations is -- they are all strong recommendations, but
having private space for interviews when and if an incident happens. i think that's really, really important. having the students explained their rights at the beginning of the year in an assembly type of environment, i think that is important. training for administrators, as well as front-line staff. that was kind of the point that i was trying to hit in terms of you have gone through this document, you're talking about training, how does that trickle down to others that are involved it is not just the principles, it is front-line staff as well. that was a good recommendation. i also like to the point that mental health, after incidents, is an important aspect of it. not just for students, but for staff. i think putting a time limit on that, that there will be a requirement of one mental health services have to be provided, we often will use the term of 2448 hours, but knowing that that deadline is there, and it has to be met, i think that would be an
important piece of putting that into the m.o.u. so that we have something to hold everyone accountable to. the question about the s.r.o. in terms of when they work, and can they work after hours, i leave that up to the board of education and the police department to negotiate and negotiate hours of when they work and the work schedules i would just say that the board of education and the sfusd and the police department can come together on that, it makes sense to me that if you have things after hours and on weekends, like football games or sporting events, or whatever they might be that draws people, having presence there, if you look at the statistics -- again, if that is what the community wants. i don't want to make that assumption, but i heard that today, and -- and what
accountability is built into the m.o.u. if the m.o.u. is not followed? what consequences are there, if any? those are a number of things that we heard today along with a whole host of things, but all i would say is there a reason we would want to continue this item to the call of the chairs we want to have a public setting where the board of education, our trustees, and the board supervises come back to see the progress that was made and finalized this and i want to thank the sfusd, as of p.d., and all the community advocates that have been involved in this, and community members, and everyday parents. it sounds like there is a call for more inclusive process to expand the number of people that can have input on this document, and i think that would be important. so we are about to go into our august recess, so maybe we can work with the chair, and maybe sometime in the fall we can
reconvene. i would like to ask mr. truitt to come back up if he can just give us an idea of what the process is going forward in terms of what the idea to finalize the m.o.u., and what other processes will be made based on what you have heard in terms of spending the opportunities for involvement. >> sure. right now the m.o.u. is being reviewed by sfpd. we have not received their comments yet. our legal office has taken the first pass through the m.o.u. we got a number of -- all the comments and feedback that the community gave us, it is probably comprised of well over 300 pages of notes. everyone received those comments we try to incorporate as many of them as we can, gave that to sfpd. they are going through their legal team and it comes back to us with their comments. our plan has always been that
this would go to our own board of education to review as the superintendent's recommendation. the superintendent superintendent would review it. the chief would agree and say yes, this is ready for my signature. we then put it on the agenda at a board meeting as a superintendent's recommendation to approve the m.o.u. and it was our intention that that would happen at the board meeting in the second one in august the beginning of the school year. >> okay. my office will summarize those and send them over to you. i'm sure you guys -- there has been a lot of information going on, but we can send you that information. thank you. >> thank you. >> commissioner collins? >> i wanted to thank you for the list of questions. they were my list of questions, i think it is important that there is follow-up and the big
picture is, what i am hearing, is also being specific. time, who is doing it, time limit. when is it happening, and what we are seeing also is there is an accountability. we are focused on this m.o.u., but there's also responsibility for the school district in terms of training staff or in terms of providing support or coordinating with social services. i would love to work with commissioner cook or president cook and others to also outline a list that has come out of this meeting of actions we need to take as a district in terms of staff, the work we need to do with staff, with the work we need to do with providing emotional support or supporting schools because those have also come out. i also heard one more, which is educating students, how do we do that best, checklists for staff on what they are required to do, and also, i do believe that we deserve -- the june jordan community and specifically the family deserve an apology from the district.
i would also like to work on, in order to repair harm, you have to acknowledge consequences. i think in order for that community to move forward and for us to acknowledge what should have happened or what we would like to happen in the future, that is something we have to work on is well. >> thank you. any other trustees or commissioners want to make -- oh, trusty selby? >> thank you. i will be very brief. i want to say that i really appreciate the -- that you guys are having this conversation. i apologize for coming and in in in the middle, but as you know, i i'm sure you have police officers unarmed at city college in one of the things that might be interesting is to have them in my opinion is that they are experts of de-escalation because they don't have firearms and they do manage -- maybe there is
a way can work together to have police officer that or an armed and be able to participate in some way, partner in some way with this. the other thing i wanted to say is that you may have already mentioned this, but there's a book called the end of policing. i thank you guys are all touching on this right now, but police officers are not necessarily also social workers, they are not also -- i'm not going to belabour this. i think we all know this. i think sometimes that what we are asking our police officers to do could be done by other trained professionals, be the social workers or the mental health professionals or whatever i don't know if that is in the scope of this m.o.u. i think it possibly is, but just thinking a little bit about whose role is what role is it worthwhile endeavor.
>> thank you, president cook. >> thank you. i especially want to thank everyone who came up and spoke in public comment. and also the former commissioner involved in the comments at the end. one of the big things that i took away that i think is important that we revisit is the amount of student input on the m.o.u. i heard you mention that we only had 100 people that participated and i am wondering who can come up to talk about how we can increase that number so we can have more voices in the process. can you speak to that? >> one of the strategies that we had his we created a facilitator
's guide and we provided people -- we didn't count the number of people who participated with coal and aunt the youth commission did their own session. they provided us all the feedback. so any agency, any c.b.o. can have their feedback session. we provide them the materials to you and you can give us that feedback. we had the front for community meetings which provided a ton of responses, and like i said, this opportunities for any of the community group c.b.o. his to do their own self facilitated session. we provided the materials for that. the alliance for girl says here. they did a session, also. i don't know how many people are included in theirs. are you requesting that we have another community meeting? >> i'm suggesting that we find every opportunity we can up until the august vote to continue to engage publicly around what they want to see out
of our partnership. i think it is important and the other thing i wanted to say was related to just the execution of these incidents as they happen because i know that there is a long-standing career in different who spoke from sfpd, how much they care about doing this the right way, but when we are in the moment, things play out in ways that don't always reflect what we write down and, you know, we had the father who we apologize to personally and he talked about never being trained, or we have constant incidents that we hear about on campus where teachers are saying , you can't come on campus , and then they say, well, actually, they have to. so the disconnect and information. that is not what you will necessarily speak to. it is, when stuff happens, either people don't know, they
forget, things get complicated, and people over react. i was a student at their good martial the day that a major incident that was referenced several times today, i -- a ton of overreaction. so, you know, it is one of these things that it is hard to say that we are going to be able to prevent overreactions, but hopefully, through the learning process over time, we can put people in place that intervene in the appropriate way. that is a process and committed to figuring out with all processes involved because like he said, once a gun is pulled on somebody, that is permanently imprinted on their mind. i know we all care about having that happen. we never wanted to happen.
>> that would be the opportunity for feedback. they were previous sessions that we have had and those have been on the current m.o.u. the next iteration, once we get the comments from sfpd have had a chance to come up with an actual draft language then the next time that would be a good opportunity for us to have more community meetings or us to look at the new one. >> thank you so much for having this hearing. i think i and others at city college share how this might involve us, but i think that the conversations today i think there is a need for us to be engaged on this, especially as we're having a large number of students come into the city college in the san francisco campus. i will be following up with our staff and sfpd and maybe your staff and others can see how we
might want to make sure that students are protected when they are taking class on our campus. i would add that little piece. >> i'm just making sure the city college either through joint m.o.u. or a separate one, whatever process is the process is to make sure that students who are attending classes at our college have the same rights and protections that the m.o.u. students have. i don't want to have a loophole where they are in classes at our campuses and don't get the privacy of protections or partnership with sfpd that they are afforded if they go to school at the same time during the day. >> great. if you could send something over , i will try to put that into words. thank you. i know we're also joined by commissioner lopez.
>> thank you. i will actually have kevin come up because i need some help here i appreciate the work that is being put in and everybody being here, but i think we need to highlight that this is yet another policy that the number of people who have to implement it will have no idea it is in place. i say that as a teacher who is pretty active in the district. i didn't realize there was an m.o.u. until i became a commissioner. thankfully i have the skills and the heart to support my students if an incident arises, but there are a number of people who don't have that and i think we also need to point out the adults that are part of the escalation that get our students into these situations. i guess i really want to understand, what are we doing to the people who have to notice this information -- is it family-friendly? is it available in multiple languages?
>> as part of the administrative training, the security guards are trained in the m.o.u. and also active shooter increases response. all of our paraprofessionals are not. it is not part of their training it is not part of their teacher training. there is all the administrators that are trained and there is -- there are the important parts of the m.o.u. that talk about, you can't call the police for disciplinary reasons. those of supposed to be reviewed with the teachers during the opening p.d. days. so if you are saying you have it , i think it bears messaging and strengthening that message that what are the things that we do have to inform the teachers of? we build it into the teacher training because our p.d. schedule is so jampacked right now. so we need to think more about that but i hear your message
that people, our line staff, where people who are interacting with students and not aware of the m.o.u. itself, so what parts of that to be need to review? how do we best do that? somebody mentioned making sure the whole entire m.o.u. is in the handbook. i have said to many people that i don't think the handbook is the answer because the handbook is becoming a phonebook and people are not reviewing it. i don't know what the best communication tool is for us to get that message out. the m.o.u. has been translated in the past. it is accessible in different languages. it is not a very popular document. so how we emphasize that, it definitely needs some more attention and strengthening of that message. i agree with you. >> thank you. thank you for joining us today, commissioner lopez. i will wrap up by saying i think
the summary of the items that i have listed out we will send over to you and to sfusd and we will follow up. we think it is important to reiterate for the record that there be more community involvement and that many of these recommendations be incorporated into the final document and we will continue this conversation and we will ask the site and be continue to the call of the chair. and as we hear more updates in terms of the progress on the m.o.u., then we will reconvene, but hopefully we can move forward and finalize this document so that we have some clarity, and also ready to go, as you said, mr. truitt, the training can be there for the beginning of the school year, including maybe some other recommendations like having assemblies and having students know their rights and some of the other things we talked about today. i want to thank everyone for coming out today.
thank you do all the departments thank you to all the community advocates and students and parents and the youth commission for their involvement working with our staff and supervisor walton's staff and sfusd for their help in terms of working with us and sfpd for helping to work with us to move this conversation forward. thank you, mr. chair, and thank you for everyone to come -- for coming out today. >> thank you, supervisor safai and supervisor walton for calling this hearing and thank you to all of the commissioners and the trustees and the departments who are here. i think this is exactly why we have this committee. this is, of course, something that is incredibly important to the safety and well-being of our students but it is also an interdepartmental issue and one i think by bringing us all together we can hopefully get to some solutions. i do want to know a couple things. positive note, i am happy to see the number of students arrested
and detained has been going down the last few years. i hope the thing is we are doing , the parts of this m.o.u. would that have been working that we continued to make sure we do those things. i have seen, in some cases, when i was a schoolboard member, that we would see things moving in the right direction and then something would change and it would stay going to the bag so i just hope that for the school district and for all of us that we really recommit to make sure we continue this trend because ideally, we would like to get down to zero, no students being arrested on campus because we are doing all the right things in terms of de-escalation and supporting them on campus in other ways. i like the trends here, but at the same time, we know when we don't get it right or when there are gaps in our m.o.u., or the way that we are implementing it, that it can have very damaging impacts, so i want to underscore
also some of the recommendations that were made, and also the ones that were here from the youth commission. i think these are ones that we should really take very seriously and including. and when i say we, this is more for the school district now at this point. it is up to you all. i do think that they have made some really good recommendations here. finally, i think it will be great for us to continue this conversation and who few months for an update and that we will be capable to get you back to that point and i want to appreciate everyone he was here. i think our m.o.u. has been viewed as a model in many ways. when i was a school board member i could contact other school district and say we want to do something like that, and they don't have anything like this. it was clearly something that was wanted by the community and really pushed for. i want to give a huge shout out
to the coleman advocates and getting to this point. we could always make it better. we can always improve on it. there's a lot of things that we can do to even improve on what is already something that is critical to the way we operate as a school district and as a city. with that, we will revisit this again in a few months with some updates and again, i want to appreciate you, supervisor safai , and all of the folks here who really engaged with this conversation in such a serious way. with that, with nothing else, this meeting is adjourned -- >> is there a motion? >> can i have a motion? and take that back. >> there is a motion on the floor by supervisor safai. >> do we have a second? >> second. >> motion is taken without any objection. we will continue this at the call of the chair. the meeting is adjourned. thank you.
>> piece and welcome. we are glad you are here. this is the regular meeting of the board of education of the san francisco unified school district. tonight is june 25th, 2019. roll call, please. >> thank you. [roll call] thank you. >> i would like to start this meeting in honor of alice walker , the most common way people give up their power