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>> the time is 5:00 p.m. the ringing of cell phones, pagers, and similar devices can still have been virtually and is
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still prohibited. please turn your devices off. due to the covid-19 health emergency and to protect commissioners, staff and members of the public," commission on the environment's meeting room is closed. however, commissioners and department staff will be participating in the meeting remotely. this precaution is taken pursuant of the statewide stay at home order and all proceeding and preceding orders, declarations and directives. commissioners will attend the meeting during videoconference or by telephone if the meeting fails and participate into the meeting to the same extent as if they were physically present. public comment will be available on each item. we are streaming the number at the top of the screen. each speaker will be allowed three minutes to speak. comments are opportunities or opportunities to speak are available by calling 4156550001
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and entering access code 146047 0765. one connected, darla start three to be added to the cue. best practices -- dial star three to be added to the cue. speak slowly and clearly and turn down any other devices. alternatively you may submit public comment by e-mail to the commission affairs officer through e-mail. if you submit public comment via e-mail, it will be forwarded to the commissioners and will be included as part of the official file. i will now call the role. >> everyone: -- [roll call]
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we have a quorum. >> great, next agenda item, please. >> the next item is item number two, president's welcome. this item is for discussion. >> hello, everybody. to everyone who came out tonight to this meeting on the commission on the environment, let me begin by sharing the best practices for this meeting. i will ask all of the members of the commission to you to yourself to minimize background noise. you will have to remember to unmute yourself to comment when it's your turn to do so. you can also signify that you want to speak. you can raise your hand or you can use little hand raise thing in the right to signify when you want to comment.
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there is staff in the background who will be managing the technological functions during the meeting so we can switch from live presentation to whoever is speaking at the moment. we will ask everyone to be patient as they make this adjustment. >> this will be our third virtual commission meeting. i'm excited to see we are getting more efficient and comfortable. we have returned to our regular schedule and we have an upcoming committee on october 21st. our last meeting in july was memorable and we received more than 20 public comments. i think we can all agree the comments we received were taken to heart and we incorporated them into the letter that we signed on behalf of the commission and sent to the board of supervisors. the initial -- issue of natural gas could not be more timely because not only is it a second largest generator of a mission, but a huge threat to public safety. that connection to climate change and human health was on full display -- display last
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week. now that the electricity supply is approaching zero emissions, eliminating natural gas is the next step forward for san francisco. i am confident the board of supervisors will move this forward. we are seeing the effects of climate change all around us and now it's time to act. is there any public comment? let's open a public comment for this item. >> great. we will now open for public comment. i am going to share my screen with the comment information.
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if you would like to make a public comment please dial the phone number and follow the instructions on the screen. if you are on hold in the queue, please wait until it's your turn to speak and we will just pause for a few seconds now to give everyone time to call in case anyone would like to make a comment on this item. >> it looks like we have one collar with their hand raised. you will need to unmute them. >> great. >> or you can make me host. >> i will unmute the collar and start my timer. your time starts now. >> my name is susan with the plant society. i'm a san francisco resident and i appreciate everything the
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department is doing to help make us more carbon neutral and more resilient. the department of environment spearheaded the san francisco biodiversity resolution and i'm hoping that will turn into -- [indiscernible] and every part of the city of san francisco will plant only local native plants to support the biodiversity. with all the emphasis on carbon, please keep in mind we have additional disasters going on. not just climate change. not just the pandemic, but also biodiversity losses. there are hundreds of thousands of dead birds in new mexico, colorado and texas due to smoke from wildfires pushing them out of their migratory patterns. they died because they starved to death. we can see them, but we need to see them -- [indiscernible]
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-- please continue to push the rest of san francisco to plant local san francisco native plants. that concludes my comments. thank you. >> thank you for your comments. i am seeing no other collars in the queue. we will now close public comment on this item. >> okay. thank you. hearing no more callers, public comment is closed. next agenda item, please? >> the next item is item three. approval of the minutes of the 2020 commission on the environment meeting. the explanatory document is the 2020 draft minutes and this item is for discussion and action. >> commissioners, does anyone have any discussion on the draft minutes?
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all right. can i please hear a motion? public comment, sorry. >> can i have a motion to approve the minutes? >> i move to approve. >> is there a second? >> i second. >> is there any public comment? we will now open for public comment. i will put the comment instructions back on the screen. if you'd like to make a public comment, press star three if you want to be added to the queue. please wait until it is your turn to speak. we will pause briefly for anyone to join the queue.
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>> it appears nobody has raised their hand. >> thank you. in that case, we will close public comment on this item. >> okay. seeing no more public comment, please call the role. >> yes. [roll call]
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>> the motion passes. next item, please. >> the next item on our agenda is item four, general public comment. members of the comment -- on the public may address matters which are not on the agenda. with that, we will open once again for public comment. i will put the instructions back on the screen. remember to press star three if you would like to be added to the queue. if you are already on hold, please wait until it's your turn to speak. we will pause once more for anyone who like to call in.
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>> nobody has joined the queue. >> thank you. >> thanks. next item, please. >> the next item is item five. presentation on the city's economic recovery task force and the role for the environment in recovery environment. this item is for discussion. >> would you like to introduce the item? >> thank you. tonight, or this time of year marks about six months of shelter in place due to the covid-19 pandemic. i think we all remember that day in mid-march when the hammer dropped and the mayor decided
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that we would be the first city to institute a shelter in place. i don't think any of us had any idea how long it would be and we would be here six months later still with no specific end in sight. and we wanted to paint a bit of a picture for you on the commission in terms of the reality of the state of our economy and what some of the discussions have been around how we are going to both respond to the pandemic and put in place policies and programs that would help us recover from the pandemic. right now, 54% of our storefronts have been closed. we have about 193,000 unemployment claims. when you think about it city of 800,000, 900,000 people, that is a big number. and, of course, no one on this call or this meeting knows what
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the future holds, but we as a commission and we as a department want to make sure that whatever that future is is not businesses usual. it is better than ever before. so when we are back to whatever normal is, we are looking through the lens of green and true sustainability. what we want to offer tonight are three views of san francisco today and some of the voices that are at the table and thinking about how to mark that future, and then we will open it up to questions and a discussion among the commission to get your thinking about how we weave in environment sustainability, equity, as well as a resilience into these discussions. first you will hear from ted egan. he is the chief economist and the controller's office and he
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will give us the reality check on where we are. then we will hear from heather green who works with -- [indiscernible] -- they did a pretty phenomenal effort with the economic recovery task force. that task force was called for by the mayor and mayor and the board of supervisors, but was led by four remarkable people. that san francisco assessor recorder, the treasurer -- treasurer, the president and c.e.o. of the chamber of commerce, and the executive director of the san francisco labor council. they are at the point now where there is a final report being produced that reflects some pretty heavy lifting and thinking and heather is going to let you know what is probably in that report, as well as what other aspects of the task force. finally we will end with more --
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she's executive director on the business council and climate change. her members are the largest employers of san francisco. you will get a perspective from the business community, from the larger city family, as well as the businesses working together on the task force, as well as a controller's office. we hope that by the end of those three presentations that you will have an idea of where we are and where we might go and then we will open it up for questions after all three speakers are finished. with that, i am so grateful that the three of these people, these incredible professionals said yes to being with us tonight and we will kick it off with ted egan from the controller's office. take it away. >> thank you, debbi. good afternoon, commissioners. i'm the chief economist and the controller's office. if you're not familiar with my role in the city, i run the
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office of economic analysis in the controller's office. we do legislative review of new legislation and we write economic reports on legislation before the board. we also help with the city understanding how the economy is doing and we make number of presentations like this across the city. i'm happy to have this opportunity to present to you today. what i will do is share with you the current statistics on how the city is doing and also a perspective on where we are in this particular economic moment. this is not just a public health crisis. we are six months into the shutdown. we are also six months into an severe economic recession that will be with us after the public
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health emergency is over. it is also no ordinary recession because of covid. it's really the interaction between those things and the issues. i think they will shape the city 's recovery and one of its major priorities coming out. katie, if you can show the first slide. in april, when the economic statistics came out, it became clear that the united states had lost 10 years of job growth in one month. this is the san francisco metro division equivalent of that. you could see we lost 175,000 jobs between march of a -- march and april of this year. that was really businesses being forced to shut down, people being laid off in that time. despite the fact that we are still in a deep recession, we have had several months of economic growth since then. since i put the slide together,
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last friday we got the august appointment statistics and they should moderate growth, and we are now at around 62,000 jobs were covered in the san mateo county area after losing 175,000 we are roughly a third of the way back. clearly the recovery, while steady for months and months, is not nearly as fast in a drop and it will take us some time, even if we have no further economic interactions and no further recurrence of the virus. that requires additional shutdowns. and we are still looking at a long recovery. next slide, please. it is not simply that we lost jobs in san francisco and our unemployment right went quickly from around 3% to about 12%. but the nature of this recession in san francisco is we want
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certain types of jobs. and in particular, jobs that affect low-wage workers in the city. this is a chart of the economic situation in the city before the covid crisis. it shows the employment growth right of different injury -- industries in san francisco for the five years through 2019, and that is the horizontal axis. the vertical axis is the wage. you can see that the higher up industries, the higher wage industries, information, tech activity, financial services, this is the professional services. they were both the highest wages sectors, but also the fastest growing sectors. on the other hand, it's investors like retail trade, combination and food services, because of age -- education and health. and the primary source of employment for low-wage workers.
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even before the covid crisis, we had this unbalanced pattern of growth in the city in which there were far more job opportunities for high skilled workers and low skilled workers. if we move onto the next page, we can see the covid crisis has exacerbated this. on this chart, the horizontal axis as a percentage of jobs that was lost between february and july of this year. the vertical axis is the same. the high wage industry lost between five to 10% of their jobs. the tech sector lost up to 10%. some of the median wages sectors are doing job -- are doing fine. construction is basically where it was before. where you really see the loss is in low-wage sectors like the accommodation and food services,
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arts and entertainment and recreation services, and other services which include a lot of neighborhood services. i would put retail trade too onto as a category. these are low wage industries infant san francisco that have been hit the hardest after already having the weakest job recovery in the last five years. it has exacerbated it. next slide, please. here is an example of this from not efficient -- not official government data. it is showing the annual change of the reservations. they are showing it in san
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francisco and four other west coast cities. you can see late february and early march. things were slowing down and then by the 3rd week of march, different cities have recovered two different extents. of these cities, san francisco's restaurant industry is doing the worst, at least by the standards of having seated desks. and all of all the cities that we have a tract on this, -- [indiscernible] -- that is partly due to our continuing limitation of indoor restaurant dining. next slide, please. another data source that we are looking at is data from mastercard, which is tracking small businesses in particular
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that use mastercard to process transactions. they work on a business by business basis and they know who was doing transactions and who is not. this is a map showing the percentage of accounts that were not showing any transactions in the last couple of weeks of july unfortunately, we don't have updated data on this. we're trying to get this from a third-party source. it's showing you that when things were quite bad in the middle of july, exactly the extent of the shutdown, at least a temporary shutdown across the city. heavily concentrated. next slide. we would also like to talk about transportation because i think transportation and the willingness to use certain types of transportation is going to
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shape the recession and recovery in a way they never have. this is the information from the county. it shows the average freeway speed in san francisco in rush hour. we have seen big changes in that since the shutdown. before the shutdown, the average rush-hour in the afternoon in san francisco and highway speed was about 25 miles an hour. that quickly went up to about 60 after the shutdown. as econ really -- economy gradually reopens, the congestion comes back. by last week, it was only about 10% faster than it was the week of the shutdown. if you had the experience driving, you may sometimes ask yourself, what shutdowns do we still have? it does seem that automobiles are more of a transportation mode of choice during the recovery that we have had in the
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reopening that we have had then it was prior. and another way you can see that on the next slide is by looking at the bart writers. they have really shown a much more limited recovery. bart is still down between 80 and 90% compared to last year. the way i am reading this is traffic is back in transit is not back. that has environmental implications if it continues. and we don't expect it to continue forever. it's also a consequence of the fact that this is a recession that is not just leading people to lose their jobs and taking away, you know, there need to commute in some cases, but also it affects their psychology about using public spaces like transit.
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and the fact that there are more people driving and fewer people taking transit, so i think a consequence of where we are in the moment and in this recession next slide, please. i mentioned that the economy and food services sector was the hardest hit sector and also the biggest source of job loss at about 45 to 50% of jobs lost. about half of the hotels in san francisco are not even open. the hotel occupancy is about 20% of what it normally is. the big reason for that is ridership for the san francisco airport, which is down over 80% year-over-year for domestic and over 90% for international. if we don't have people riding, travelling by plane to san francisco, that will put a crimp into the market for hotels and
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the visitor spending that support so many other industries from transportation, to retail, to restaurants. any of these are low-wage industries. and this is a shutdown of tourism. it helps to contribute to the difficulty of many low-wage workers and also small businesses. next slide, please. finally, the last point that i would mention, and we are tracking this carefully and i am not sure what is underneath these numbers, but i think they are quite significant, is the housing market. this is the apartment list which tracks listings in the city. san francisco is seeing the biggest drop of any big city in the country in terms of its asking price. the drop is accelerating from month-to-month, even as the job starts recovering. i think it is an open question
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of trying to get the answer the best i can as to whether or not this is tech folks who can work at home and deciding they no longer need to move to san francisco or want to move away from san francisco, or how much this is caused by low-wage murk -- workers who are laid off and can't afford to live in the city this is not our data. we're getting this from third-party sources. we need to figure out more about what is actually going on. it's a little bit of both. but it is a worrying trend, particularly because it's so much more dramatic. and just lastly, i'm trying to summarize with what i think are pretty big challenges for the city going forward of going through and out of this recession. i would say -- go to the next slide, please. the economic this is a deep
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recession. people are not expecting this until the end of next year. the g.d.p. will be back to where it was until late 2020. [indiscernible] [please stand by]
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i would also put in this category many small businesses. larger businesses may be able to handle going into hibernation. they're small business is their job and it's difficult to be without businesses and workers to be without income. in the medium term, we can talk about the virus being abated and
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people being more open. the severe tourism industry -- [indiscernible] there is a primary source of job loss that we have had now. we don't have any reason to think that this won't be an attractive tourist destination and all the rest when people are willing to travel again. it's very important. for the longer-term issue, and the greatest uncertainty, is what of the future of the people who are working from home? they are burying the least of the burden of the shutdown, but they have a great role to play in the future of the economy.
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if it really is true what people are saying then there is less of a role for people and businesses to work remotely. that has got implications for the future of downtown or housing. we are going to be watching that very carefully. before we get to that point is the transit ridership is a very vital thing for us to recover. we can't really get everyone back to work. we need people to take transit. that is another thing that will need to be brought back. those are my comments on where we currently are in the economy. >> thank you.
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i will jump in here. i am heather green. i am the director of planning. i have also been staffing the task force. i will be offering a little perspective about what that body has been up to and the ideas there. next slide? we have already told you who is is leading the task force. i will note that we have a membership of over 100 community members. a combination of the larger players and also a ton of small business owners, community leaders and representatives and a very diverse body as well as to keep -- city executives and a handful supervisors as well. next slide. a little of context.
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this is the kind of information that we have worked with the task force. this is our hospitalization data you can see we are writing a little bit of a roller coaster here. and we have this incremental job gain since april but the disease itself is not linear. we are seeing recurring issues there. there are gaps from when the city chose to close and when the state would've told us to do so. even with that being ahead of the ball, we saw cases climb to the peaks that they did over the summer. we are having to be extremely responsive and the task force has got to offer guidance and expressed challenges in realtime meanwhile, next slide. we have been trying to pay attention to the population's
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most dramatically affected people. we spent a lot of time as a body thinking who is vulnerable to the effects of the disease and also as the economic repercussions. we need to pay attention to which sectors need the most help and which populations, again, noticing that there are low income earners.
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they are taking the largest hit when it comes to their jobs. you can imagine the value can go along with that. we want to make sure we are paying attention. this is the task force that is charged with providing the body to help the city sustain vulnerable businesses and unemployment. we have never really invented something quite like this.
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when we set out, you know, to be a task force body, we put them together the report and there was a very clear directive from task force members across those small group meetings with task force members. there are challenges and it is the most imperative thing that the task force can do in the short term to facilitate a reopening and help the safety to do that. the task force dug in on that in may and june and you continue to see that work and as new guidance is released in the city his ever-changing, -- [indiscernible] we are trying to follow along.
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in june, we got going on thinking about our strategies in this city and time with an end date coming up on october 8th. it has been drafting the report that we referred to with august and september. the task force set out -- i want to highlight that they wanted to deliver concrete and actionable recommendations for the city. there are also aspirations for long-term ideas, a place that we could not get as a body until long-term for the city. [indiscernible]
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i don't think it is a failing of the task force by any stretch. it speaks to the amount of work and ideas that is needed in the short and medium term. there is still work ahead on the long-term vision. this is by no means the last remark on our recovery. it's really just an opening. next slide. this is about the community engagement. there has been a ton of outreach continuing. on the next slide, sentiments that we gathered from our public survey which gathered over 1,000 responses in the early summer. it is important -- we believe as a staff and a task force that it is important to hear through
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engagement like this so we remember that it is important to be culturally competent. some populations are suffering in extraordinary ways. i'm thinking about the disability community. we have heard a lot from small businesses. there is extraordinary pressure on them and some of the efforts that they are facing and the investments that we need to make in order to make a difference. next. the task force itself works in four policy groups. i'm thinking about jobs and businesses, the vulnerable populations, economic development, arts, culture, hospitality, an entertainment.
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the last one speaks to the last slide from ted that i love so much. we need to make sure we pay attention to the needs that people have. and the others line up with the condition of the task force itself. here are some of the things we heard in comments across them. i will just say things like supporting businesses, affording -- affordable housing, thinking about our workforce -- [indiscernible] -- we heard the multiple times. we have been thinking of staff and the task force and integrated priority areas. you can see here the priorities that will be going through each of the strategies.
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you don't have to commit those to memory. here are strategies around supporting businesses and organizations, making sure that small business can survive. as i mentioned before, acknowledging our needs to communicate clearly so businesses know the options available to them thinking about how to stimulate economic recovery. we hear a lot of clambering in our group. it is important to get the virus under control for the economic recovery to be sustainable, with these businesses are in danger of going under now. the strategy is getting people back so people can spend money at neighborhood businesses. need to keep our foot on the gas is much as we can. it is a delicate balance. here at the bottom is an
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important one. keep on acknowledging that we need to invest in infrastructure san francisco has such good rules on the books. next slide. thinking about our workers. we need to look at strategies about our workforce and workforce development and making sure that we have a clear pathway for people. and at the backbone of that, make sure people can go to work. and we needed childcare system that meets the needs of our workforce. protecting in meeting basic needs. there are a couple of strategies with the third and the fourth. it is on the health and
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well-being of all, and especially in low income communities. if you look on the c.d.c. website, for example, those who aren't as high risk, it is a limited number of pre-existing conditions. department -- the department of public health in san francisco acknowledges this is a vulnerability by demography and living conditions. [indiscernible] things like that and making sure we have trusted community members that people will trust and help deliver the equipment and protection that people need and help the environment to succeed under number of other basic needs to accomplish.
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this is a san francisco document we will talk about housing. ted has a slide about affordability that has been a challenge for the city. [indiscernible] [indiscernible] there are a lot of strategies here that are in the spirit of what san francisco has been endeavouring -- endeavouring to do to make more affordable housing and prevent addictions and misplacement. there is an even greater urgency and even more room to pay attention to these things. [indiscernible]
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next. pursuing economic justice is another one of our goals. [indiscernible] we are thinking about fines and fees and making sure the city does not push people are key people in a cycle of poverty. this is about the digital divide of that and seeking the extraordinary needs of the arts, culture, and hospitality sector. and trying to identify new revenue services so they can survive.
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we want them to make sure they don't expire through their time. we need to make these things easier to deliver. and we are continuing to plan collaboratively for san francisco's future and related investments. [indiscernible]
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the housing element is off. there are so many efforts going on at the same time. we need to make sure we work together as a city to think about how we can deliver asked for the future of san francisco. next. this shows where we are at. we have brackets to report. it has been circulated to the task force for a short comment. i think that is my last. i will be here for the questions at the end.
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>> many cities globally are taking steps to put together plans for bold recovery that prioritize the climate goals while building more equitable economies. i think that is a lot of what the conversation has been about today. on june of this year, we launched the climate smart recovery -- recovery initiative. i will talk about that today. i want to start by bringing in some of the things that our members are doing so you have some contacts before i dive in to this. i also want to say, is absolutely -- i have been talking to debbie about this. it's great that the task force is opening and making it possible. it is clear to me that -- when
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is the right time for that? it has been clear just listening from all of you that the time to focus right now is getting our city safely reopened as soon as possible. maybe some of what i will talk about today is some next steps of opportunity for when the time is right. it isn't opening. there are a lot of techs that will come after that. next slide, please. it's a little bit about our organization. i was invited to come and give a quick talk when i came on board a couple of years ago in 2018. it was a very long time ago now. the business council on climate change was founded in 2007.
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the department of environment put out the first very -- the very first climate action plan. they knew they couldn't do it alone. we are now a standalone standalone and nonprofit organization. the department of the environment is a member of our organization. our members listed here are collectively employing more than 750,000 people. the representative within our membership that come to the table with us and come to our meetings and engage across companies are mainly the leading sustainability people at their organization. they are the ones that are setting global climate goals for the organization and they are the ones that need to figure out how to meet those goals. very similar to the department of the environment and the work that they do. it is also a small and mighty team of three.
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it's how we work and how we operate. when he defined opportunities for these companies and organizations to work across companies and to work across sectors. the goal is we want to try and incubate and share ideas that have the potential to address climate change. that is our main mission. next slide. so just two concrete examples of the collective action that we do with our membership. in 2019, a few of our members came together around the project and they joined forces to purchase renewable energy together. it is a virtual power purchase agreement. it is a technical solar term. is the first time that multiple companies of moderate sizes had come together on a large deal together. they all signed the same contract. their lawyers all worked together.
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it was a really heavy lift. they purchased 42 megawatts of a farm together collectively. in doing so, they created a blueprint for how other companies could join forces and make a bigger impact and offset their footprint, but also get more energy out. and another example is to create a pilot grant. they were testing out the issues the goal is overtime that there might be a carbon market. they are trying to make that happen. it is very early stages. early days are messy. our members got together to fund the research. they are trying to send a signal to say that if the market can figure those out, then we have funds to buy these.
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we are still tracking that market. members are still interested in that question and the opportunity for this in the marketplace. next slide. many of our member companies have set ambitious climate goals many of you are engaged in the climate action summit that happened in 2018. if you have argues that a big goal, guess what, jury brown was trying to tell you that not everyone was big enough. they are hosting a lot of great events during that. it really did help elevate the ambition. i think it is a great example of saying, we don't know how we will do it, but the goals need to be bigger. they need to be more ambitious. that coming together will get a lot of our companies.
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it is. pressure. many of our members are already doing this. a lot of them are talking about trying to find strategies to deal with their legacy emissions they are looking backwards. some of them are doing big efforts on that front. a handful of our companies have already instituted internal carbon pricing mechanisms so they can help to regulate the emissions from different business departments within the company, but also they are charging those departments. they have a budget to play with. which is really interesting. if you're talking but a big
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company like google or microsoft , that carbon budget is substantial enough. what could we invest in with the funds we are generating? there is a lot of creativity involved. google just announced last week that they will be investing $5.7 billion as part of their new third decade investment. they're investing in technology and other solutions to invest in carbon. next slide. this is the most interesting slide in my personal opinion.
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there aren't that many examples right now in the corporate space there are a few inspiring and exciting. there was a huge announcement many months ago. they talking about 50 times over the next 30 years. some companies are coming forward and making gigantic commitments that they don't know how to meet. they think it is really exciting two examples of this are these two companies that have set 2030 goals, which is less than 10 years from now. they just announced it again last week. they are trying to get to operating on what what they are calling 24/7 carbon free energy by 2030. i barely know what that means. i couldn't tell you what that means. you could google it. you should google this term.
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if they figure it out in 10 years, it will be a game changer for safe companies, utilities, so that is super exciting for me they could have a roadmap of ideas. they will problem-solving over the next decade. it will be potentially transforming of the space. i want to highlight that lincoln and microsoft are going carbon negative. lincoln is a company of microsoft now. they have committed to going carbon negative by 2030. which means they will deal with all the legacy emissions. and all those emissions, they will be spending that million
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dollars and trying to get the markets going. i will be really excited to launch these over time. we have these numbers sharing with each other. what could they learn from each other over this. they have conversations a lot over carbon pricing and how to make it most effective. members who are just launching these in the organization can talk about -- talk to microsoft and skip over the first five years of pain. there is no more time to work independently anymore. next slide. i think, speaking of this, we talked about this meeting today earlier. now is the time for bold action. everyone here is experienced. the day the sunshine didn't fully come out -- [indiscernible]
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my sincere hope is that locally we have support for the masses but we will start doing things that we don't know how to do. we launched our climate smart recovery initiative. next slide. i don't think i need to tell you all, but as a reminder, everything about the way we live and work is different. planes are grounded. the percentage of people taking air flights, there are companies that have multibillion-dollar -- multi- million-dollar trial budgets. those budgets are not being used for airline travel anymore. these companies are actually thinking like -- they are saying things like, find a way to not dip to air travel at 60%.
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they are challenging teams to plan now for when they get into recovery and how to keep emissions though. a lot of interesting conversations are happening in the company right now. this has an impact on the future of cities. next slide. we are seeing a way of them to demonstrate this and calling for racial justice. what a moment we are living in. from my seat and the conversations we have been having, it is really interesting it is interesting that the word of systemic change, racial justice, intersectionality. i see these words every week. everyone is grappling with the interconnectedness of it all. and the people who used to just sit in the silo of sustainability are now being
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asked, what is working? they are trying to figure it out they need to answer those questions and they are coming up with new ideas and proposals telling that. conversations are happening at that level. but i think we know it's his -- it is really hard. don't try this at home by yourself. we cannot do it alone. next slide. this gets into the future that we envision. we had it all sink for couple of minutes of what comes to mind. they just shared openly with
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popcorn words. it's really interesting what people were sharing. we cannot just start planning the way that we plan. we have to do everything differently. this is the great resizing. we need to do it in a more equitable manner. ultimately, with our recovery initiative, our membership and the practitioners believe it is economic recovery that moves it towards our broader plan goals. we need to build a more resilient economy. in addition it will improve the health and quality of life. that is our belief. it's one of the cooler things that we are hoping as we move
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forward with the recovery initiative. the real question is, what is that future that we are envisioning and are we ready to start the process of designing it? for the next great disaster, it's not the best time. they need to get back to that place. it is a space between this disaster is it will be another bookend. there will be a magic space for disasters where we have the ability to do the long-term envisioning and planning together. that is why starting these conversations now as we start to get our feedback on the ground, now is the time in between for the next disaster. next slide.
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the good news here, and i just want to say, props. early on this year they came out with their principles for covid-19 recovery. and tonnes of mayors across the globe signed onto this. i'm really proud of the mayor and excited that she planned on early on. it shows her courage to be part of this as it moves forward. these are the principles when they release them, but they can help accelerate economic recovery. it will drive wider benefits for everyone.
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next slide. in terms of the climate smart recovery initiative, we have really launched this and these two tracks. we need to show up for our members right now. they are in crisis. they already have big jobs in their world to achieve through ambitious and bold climate goals they were struggling in their own silos. it is it's our work to help them meet their climate goals.
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we have these added pressures of figuring out the intersectionality. the first track for the initiative is to bring members together. we need to show up for san francisco. that is the other big part of the initiative. how can our membership work collaboratively with the city? with the economic task force and what will come out of that? how can these be recovered? that's why i want to talk about this at the end here. we have hosted three forms.
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we held a forum on zero waste and covid. there are tonnes of questions if you are all aware. we had a big discussion with people around that. we pull together a lot of resources from the member companies themselves so folks can have the tools they need. thank you to ted for participating. [indiscernible] in addition to these forums, we signed onto a letter of support for recovery pathway feasibility study to evaluate a temporary emergency bike lane on the bridge.
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we are gauging the ways to support studies being done to look at ways to get people back to work in cars. we also have a strong employment engagement platform. we watched it in january of this year before everyone went home to work forever for the short-term. we have a tool and a manager who is running this with our members to reach these employees out there. we are in the middle of our campaign and looking to get those out to our member companies. the campaign encourages adoption of residential solar and battery that has opened it up. we are testing out a campaign this year to show clean energy across our members to get the word out to our employees to encourage them to ask us about clean energy right now.
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maybe hopefully to offset the energy while working from home. they also trying to find ways to find ways for the companies to work from home. can they also encourage -- [indiscernible] the companies create things like take your health and wellness benefits because people are not going to the gym. they say you could use that $500 this year to go towards a battery for your home or solar system or an air purifier. we are looking at trying to have them do these things in the short-term that will make a difference for employees, but also for our grid. those are some of the things we are working on. in general, we have the membership. the companies are committing to doing these three key things. they will pursue these
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strategies. we want to share out is much as we can with businesses of all sizes and what is working. we also commit to collaborating and identify climate smart recovery opportunities when the time is right. when the time is right, we would invite any and all ideas to bring this to the table. and finally, members are working closely with the city to address the impact and the opportunity of this changing workplace. there will be economic impacts, but huge emissions impacts of all of these decisions a company has made over the next six to 12 , to 24 months. and how many people will go back to work. workforce shifts and impacts on
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the local economy so our members are interested and concerned in the transportation issue as i am sure you all can imagine. they are curious and want to be part of the experience. [indiscernible]
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there might be away locally. many of these companies are headquartered in san francisco. there's a lot of interesting conversation to have as we move forward. in addition, i will wrap up by saying that we have been in touch. thank you for your generous time we are also in touch with the governor's task force. they have a committee on climate as part of the task force.
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we're looking for opportunities to convene when the time is right. in closing, we are all ears. if anyone is a commissioner -- [indiscernible] -- we want to have small conversations about opportunities to collaborate. we can help with that. [indiscernible] we are all ears for any ideas. next slide. this is my contact information. i want to thank everyone. >> thank you so much for that. it was really informative and fantastic. every time i get to hear the smart folks in our public bodies and in our partners and the work that they are doing, i'm constantly proud to live in the
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city and be part of these organizations and the different people who are thinking about these important questions. i am sure the question -- commissioners probably have questions. i will take a look over at the hand raising list. let's take advantage of the time that we have while these people are here for questions. go ahead. commissioner sullivan? >> i need to unmute myself. a couple of observations. one is that i have been pleasantly surprised at some of the changes that cobit has forced on us from this perspective and how it relates to the environment. with the shared spaces, it has been a big success. i find myself walking to my local restaurants as opposed to
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driving to other places. there is a new bike lane along the street next to the panhandle that happened with very little fanfare and very little process. and the old days, most of these things would have taken years of process and a few meetings. they happened quickly because of emergency powers. maybe we can learn from that and we can make some of these things permanent. and the second thought i had is we have all been talking about how on a global level, emissions are down this year. is a little bit of a silver lining. emissions are down. and curious to see if the city can calculate the impact of the
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pandemic on san francisco to see how we are doing. those are my thoughts. >> this is my very myopic worldview. do we see it in a large-scale, or are we seeing a trend in that direction? >> it's a great question. the information that we are getting at this point largely is
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anecdotal. there is a lot of concern from cities like new york and others. you are seeing a temporary outflow. the housing market in the bay area is showing a great deal of weakness in the city. the brokers i am hearing from is that people are looking at who would ordinarily bought. people are looking at the suburbs. the marketing of real estate is showing the advantage of low density -- [indiscernible] -- whether or not this is real or worth focusing on -- [indiscernible] i think it is an open question. i'm not worried about the people
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moving to the suburbs as i am with people moving to -- they are not going to come back. it has always been true that companies and jobs and people have effectively priced out of san francisco and have moved to lower cost locations. if we see that supercharged, because this moment in technology, and the virus, and people's psychology means it is a longer-term shot for the city 's economy. the only piece of information comes from -- [indiscernible] they are tracking people who are searching for apartments, which they summed up on the website. they are suggesting that what we are seeing is nobody is moving
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to san francisco as opposed to everyone is moving out of san francisco. that also makes sense because as recently as 2019, for example, the tech industry and employment in san francisco went down 10%. if that flow stops, it will look like a big slowdown in the rental market. it is slightly better than anecdotal. i am eager to learn more about this. you read stories from the work at home people who are casting off the shackles of living in san francisco. and year or two ago, you are
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seeing people who are living in san francisco. i frankly worry more about so low income workers. they don't have the access to draw on this to pay rent. [indiscernible] >> thank you. how are they inserting themselves into these conversations? >> this is part of the reason i want to get this topic to you because i would like it to be a
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collective brain form on all of these parts in the various ways we insert ourselves. the department is involved in two levels. one is in the work we do and making sure that our -- that we are thinking about economic recovery in our work. so whether it is focusing energy efficiency work and a small grant program 20 waste, to small businesses and focusing our energy laser on the small businesses that are hurt the most and supporting the nail salon so that one -- so when they are ready to open, we make it easier for them to reopen. the other area we are participating in is a larger discussion area. that falls to me mostly. i was appointed to the economic recovery task force. i was one of the executives that
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heather talked about and was on working groups. it has been a phenomenally useful experience for me because i got to be on working groups with people who i never would interact with and others that i didn't know that doing so now i do know. the president of the small business commission and i were on a working group together and now we are working together. heather and i have had long talks about -- and same with professor chiu and i, about how we -- what is the right way -- that was fascinating. sorry. we have had long discussions about the difference between the medium and short term that is happening now and the long-range of how we insert the green. what came out of it for me was
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what heather was saying to all of you that it isn't a shortcoming of the economic recovery task force. it is a sign of what the members and where their heads are at. so the question then becomes, how do we make sure that sustainability is part of those long-range discussions? where are those happening now? they're happening there happening in a number of places. there is the housing element of the general plan. it's an interesting moment for this commission to be thinking about how we don't do land use as a commission. there is a bright line there. yet there is a big discussion in the housing element on resiliency and sustainability, as well as affordability and types of housing and the amount of housing.
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our ears are open. we are looking for ways to insert and be part of the conversation. i would say, honestly, i haven't found a good entry point yet. i wanted tonight to be with you and it be a launching of that. i ask is all of you commissioners --
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[indiscernible]. [please stand by] . >> in a way, it's a covid specific task force and so on, but, like, the challenge or the question on the floor is how best actually compel action, and talk about this sometimes, and i think there's a couple ways, but to me, like, you never get an argument in a san francisco body that we should do what's good for the environment. so they have, like, such consensus in that way that perhaps it's understated. but that doesn't mean that people disagree with the importance of the measure. i think to me, far more powerful than any individual strategy -- like, the c-40 sign on, for example. it's a pledge, like, a pledge of ambitious desire, but the
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teeth comes in the local legislation, so all the work that debbie and the team do and that you do here to set the rules about what san francisco can build, like, that's the leverage, and so -- and to be clear, you know, there's a lot of concern about how hard it is and how extensive it is to build in san francisco. and in my capital planning, like, this is something we run up against all the time. like, you want to build the best and greenest project that you can, but if it seems like it's going to cost more, it might even pencil in savings over time. day-to-day, there's always limited resources, certainly, from a local level. but the rules are the rules, and to the extent that the rules can, you know, still facilitate the building that we need to deliver now, especially for stimulus, with that building being green, it's
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going to get you so much farther, i believe, that, you know, articulating the call for this or that project which we're all having political battles about it. so i just want to hope to instill -- i'm sure you already have it, but the call to the legislation that guides what we do, is really helpful, i think, for our collective priorities here. >> yeah, thank you. i have been -- i just came out of a big planning process for the company that i work for, and we sat down for days, looking at, like, what do we want to do. these companies come up with these, like, plans for, like, this big, hairy, audicious
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goal. and you don't have the money and the resources to get there, and then, you have the money and the resources right now, and it's a boat of a process to say, here's what we need to do, and what we're supposed to be doing right now, always with the goal of working toward. that's what i'm hoping we can do through this process is say, this is a brave new world we're doing, for good and bad, and commissioner made reference to ways that our world is changing. i left town to visit a sick relative, and when i came back, the city is covered with parklets, and things that we would not ever have been able
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to get rid of. but now, there's outside dining and things that have changed the fabric of a piece of our city, like, you know, across town. i think that we can do both. i think that we can say this is our big, big goal of how we want to transform our recovery, and we can build the city back better, at the same time while we can say we can help the people at the same time that need help with those things, and i hope my fellow commissioners can help me come up with the big thing that we can tack on the board and say, this is what the city looks like in ten more years because that's what we have, is climate concerns that have to happen now. so any way. commissioners, any other thoughts or questions? debbie? >> thanks. sorry. i saw commissioner ahn had his
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hand up. this is a question to heather. so in terms of next steps, this -- the report, which i have read the draft of, which is really well written and easy to follow and such a wonderful reflection of all this brainstorming and good work on these hundreds of people has behind it just a whole list of suggestions, where, i don't know, just 100 ideas. and it's how do we make this report not stay on the shelf? i mean, that's my question. how do we -- how do we pick things off, or what will it take to take some of these ideas and make them real? that's the thing that worries me right now. >> heather, you're on mute. >> sorry. hi. a little bit, we'll look to
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leadership, right? the mayor and the board president convened this body, and i think it's reasonable to expect to hear from them for next steps. like, when i said this report and this body is an opening, it's also important to note that it's not comprehensive, so ted shared the mobility data and the transit data with our group, but our group really didn't tackle transportation, for example. there's another group that's working in the city on transportation and response and the m.t.a. is already thinking about recovery. we had jeff tumlin present to us, but this body didn't tackle that, like, the downtown can't recover and our city as a whole can't recover unless people feel safe using transit. so i just wanted to give something on youth and families and the community hubs that
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you've probably read about. like, there's a whole -- we've heard and read about that information, but there is a whole effort there on homelessness and essential government function. like, there's a lot of groups. i love the report, too, but i think it's a piece of the pie, and i think it's really important that our city stakeholders, you know, pay attention in the months ahead and look to see how the mayor and our board weave together those various facets of recovery planning, of which this is one component. there are so many, and to see how -- to look that balls like that don't get dropped. i wouldn't expect that they would. that's one piece of it to see on which exactly pieces get picked up as priority from that leadership perspective. and then, you know, i think it happens often in government and
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augments things -- and that last thing, i was trying to hurry through, and still spent way too long. the one that we acknowledge the various processes that exist, including the climate plan, the budget plan, those are places where decisions get made. and i'll just say, the legislation that goes along with them are so important. for the public space reuse is such a visible part of what we're doing, continuing to communicate with your electives and so forth about how you like it, and that it's a good idea, but that you may have seen the article of being able to, like, for a single commenter -- like, the ceqa problem, where a single commenter can obstruct a whole project on the street. m.t.a. has a whole slate of
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closed streets that they want to open, but it's held up. and so keeping your eye on those -- on those movements through the board and expressing your support for things that you want to see, i think, remains, you know -- it is in some ways business as usual, but, you know, it's no less important but then, those processes. and then, for the part about articulating -- like, in the 40 goals, we can't return to business as usual. i ju like, all of our documents already say that and, like, all of our legislation already pushing us there, and that will be the work of the c.a.p. and i don't mean to diminish it but it's, like, you're doing -- you're doing the work, and i don't know exactly what the future holds in terms of how
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the mayor will, like, articulate a recovery task. i know the task force that i'm staffing will be a part of it, but i wouldn't expect it to be the whole picture, and so, you know, just a little bit of a wait-and-see how she activates it. i think that all city processes are going to be a part of this for the foreseeable future until we're where we want to be, and yes, demanding that vision is going to be the whole thing to do. >> i think it's hard to start from such a high peak. like, the full employment numbers -- i don't know if you think you'll get back to where we were. those are spheric low unemployment numbers, and so it's something we have to pay attention to [inaudible] there's a lot of questions ahead. >> thank you. commissioner ahn, i know you
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had a question. i wanted to make sure that we got to you. >> sure. i just had a question for [inaudible] really appreciate you taking the time to present today. the question is i heard mention that a lot of the stories, for instance, are anecdotal. we're waiting on new trends or data reports. could you clarify which data reports or trends we could look forward to for future follow-up? >> specifically to the migration. the 2000 census was going on at the start of the shutdown period, and that's a question where you ask people where you live now and sent to your address where you lived a year ago, so that will start to show migration behavior, and we're not going to get that until 2021 or 2022. another source of information that we get is the i.r.s. the i.r.s. looks at the zip code which you filed your taxes
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and the zip code that you filed your taxes last year and creates county-to-county migration charts that way. realistically, the migration is still happening, at least that's what the housing data is telling us, and so we won't really know until next year's census and maybe next year's i.r.s. input which will lead to data a year or two after that. so i think from the point of view from official statistics, we're going to get a picture of this that gets clearer and clearer over the next few years. the things that will get more timely are things that reflect population. so for example, when b.a.r.t. starts up and how many people are riding b.a.r.t., that's
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going to be a good indication of how many people are working in san francisco. it's better than doing a survey, whereas b.a.r.t. is counting everyone. so i think it's going to be good to see what we can do creatively with anecdotal lore because we'll be waiting a year or two for the whole story. >> thank you. commissioner wald? >> thank you. i just wanted to tie together what laura was saying, and you, chair stephenson about sort of the big, ambitious goals, and what heather was saying about the importance of san francisco's legislative goals and fundamental rules that we have. and it seems to me that this
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might be an appropriate question at an appropriate point in time to question whether or not our goals, our environmental goals are, impact, actually bold enough. is this, in other words, a time in which we ought to push forward some of our transit and other goals because we have -- because we have the opportunity, number one, because we're doing this kind of planning, but because the consequences of pushing forward those goals in some cases will be increased jobs, increased benefits, helping those people who need it the most. so i would encourage you,
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debbie, to at least spend a little while figuring out whether or not we really ought to say, you know -- i, of course, cannot think at this moment of an appropriate example, but whether or not we want to have even boulder, even more ambitious goals that would help us move forward from -- from this particular moment in time to a future that is more in line with the one that i [inaudible] believe in and want to see. >> i'll second that. i like that. anyone else have any questions or comments on the commission?
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all right. let's open it up for public comment. i want to thank everyone for your presentation. i appreciate your attention to detail and patience as we wait till the end to ask questions. i think we'll probably have more as time goes on, and i think at this time we should open it up for public comment. >> yes. so we can open it up for public comment regarding this agenda item. i'm going to put the instructions back up on the screen. that didn't work, did it? okay. so the instructions are now up on the screen. if you would like to call in to make a public comment, please
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make sure to press star, three to be added to the queue. if you make a public comment, you will have three minutes, and please wait until it is your turn to speak. give me one second, and i'll check the queue. i do see we have one caller in the queue, so i will start your time, and i will unmute you now. >> hi. this is susan from the california native plants society and i'm a san francisco resident. the united states faces simultaneous threats exacerbated by a pandemic related economic crisis. unfortunately, we must address all of these crises at the same time to survive. please include biodiversity in the conversation so the climate and the city can build back better. this pandemic has exposed how important our green spaces are
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to our mental health as well as our physical health. 68% of san francisco is paved and built on. every bit of green space and every bit of tree we plant matters. every plant the city installs should be 100% local native plants. consider replacing some of our carbon emitting golf courses with children's playgrounds, dog parks, bike trails, and running trails to offer a wider variety of ways to be outside for san francisco residents. thinking larger, companies to invest in home solar and batteries is a wonderful idea. would companies consider consider some of this wellness
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funding for employees to plant green spaces at home? seeing a reduction in numbers in varieties of butterflies and birds here in san francisco is evidence that we are losing the biodiversity that is the foundation of our health, our air quality, our water quality, and our food web. please include biodiversity in our city and corporate plans to allow us to build back better together. that concludes my comments. >> thank you f
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comments. [inaudible] >> -- under the environment code, the department maintains a reduced list pesti cried list that may be used on city property, with restriction. the support is dr. debra raphael, direct raphael, -- the sponsor is dr. deborah raphael, director, and the speaker is dr. chris gieger, integrated pest management program manager. >> pandemic, fires, recessions, these are things that are
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holding our attention right now in a riveting way, but the city's work goes on, and the commission's work goes on, and every year, the city takes a look at at the use of pes pesticides on those areas. the report that the committee looked at was in 2019 and ended at the end of 2019, but of course everyone on the policy committee was interested in how covid impacted our pesticide use. at this point, you will be hearing from chris a summary --
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a very quick summary of what has happened in 2019 because the policy committee heard a very detailed presentation about not only the [inaudible] of 2019 but also what was happening as opposed to covid, what some of the challenges are, what some of resilient requirements were for our land managers. and so with that, i will have chris present his abbreviated version of the presentation he gave at policy committee, and then, we will ask you to weigh-in. chris? >> thank you, director, and thank you, commissioners. this makes me proud to be working for local government at this critical time. i'm going to be abbreviating as much as i can. this is an annual ritual, an annual function that we do. this reduced list pesticide
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list. the background, i think you guys have all heard this before. we will discuss activities that debbie mentioned through the present, not just through 2019, give you a brief summary of the trends of 2019 and then our recommendations. integrated pest management is a decision making process. it is one that values nonchemical and nondisruptive techniques most highly and saved pesticides and disruptive techniques as a last resort. we like to live at the base of this pyramid with emphasis on prevention. the ordinance itself, as you may remember, requires an approach on all city properties. the pesticides have to be on this list to be used on city properties unless there is an exemption granted by our department. it includes posting and record keeping requirements, requires compliance of contractors and
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also includes an annual public hearing requirement which we had beginning of august, and that is a chance for us to talk to members of the community about what city staff do in their landscape management and structural pest management activities and also to hear about community concerns. the very briefest of background, we do screen every pesticide that goes onto this list. we have a three tier hazard screening system. tier one is what we consider to be the most hazardous, tier three, the least hazardous. we rely extensively on training. that is really one of the hearts of, i think -- the heart of the program is extensive training, and we have meetings every month with speakers, almost every month, as well as spring trainings where 300, 400 people are typically trained in
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those events. those were cut a little bit short by covid this year. we got most of them in before the curtain fell. some of the activities from this past year, we continued with our pilot testing of safer herbicides. it's been a high priority since round up became categorized as a probable carcinogen. they're one that we're looking at based clove oil and takes that matter into the plant tissue, ways to tikill plants the roots, so there is a lot of progress with that. we've been looking at a rat
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contraceptive as opposed to baits. we are continuing these activities at rec park and also at pier 96. we've continued our work with pest prevention in affordable housing. we won a grant last year with department of pesticide regulation to follow up on our previous work in affordable housing, and we did get a fair -- we've got all of our external designs and interview forums and lined up our partners just at the point where covid happened. so part of that is on hold. we're going to proceed with some of the interviews that are involved in that study and then wait for the chance to get into these low-income housing units to check on the success of pest preventative design measures that were installed there. we also began to roll out -- we completed a new product that i've spoken about before.
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our pest prevention and landscape guidelines. these were the product of a very dedicated working group, multiagency working group, including a couple of people out of state, and it is available on-line as a downloadable document, also as a database that can be searched. we're very proud of that. right exactly at the time when we were going to do a formal rollout, that's when covid happened, and so we are now going through other avenues to get the word out about this and keep the public document about reducing the needs for herbicides and creating a healthier environment. we also completed another big project this year, a brand-new pesticide reporting database. this is where we record all pesticides used on city properties. the old one has been
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troublesome for many years. this one promises to be a lot more streamlined and trouble free, and it was rolled out september 1. rolling over to pesticide trends. the news is mostly good for 2019, and i -- based on what we heard at the commission policy committee meeting, i will expect some increase in herbicide use in 2020. don't know exactly how much yet, but based on staff reductions, and based on the changing patterns of use -- and actually, a lack of volunteer labor to do some of the weeding that typically happens in the parks, there are thousands of people that help with that. so nevertheless, we actually had an improvement in our main metric, which is tier one, or highest hazard pesticides within the city limits. last year, it was about a 96% reduction since 2010. for this year, it's 97.9%
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reduction, so that is a good indicator. mind you, we're already at pretty low levels, so we expect that to dump around. it's been an 83% reduction since 2015, which is when the roundup determination was made, and a 22.8 reduction since last year. now some departments have a little more, and some a little less, so the story varies. we are -- continue to listen to public concerns, and these are some of the typical ones. we didn't have a lot of public comment this year during the public hearing or during the commission meeting. what we have been hearing all along are these sort of varying comments. some people who are very
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interested in preserving biodiversity and want more pesticide use, some people who believe that biodiversity does not warrant the use of herbicides and feel that herbicides should never be used on city properties. our goal was to strike a balance on these feelings and issues and also to follow our commitments to reduce the use of chemicals. so i'm going to summarize the proposed product changes for this year's reduced risk product list -- pesticide list. it's very, very few changes this time, and i consider that a good sign. i think the herbicide restrictions that we spent to much time on in the previous four years, i think have settled into a workable document that people are using. so there are no recommendations for changes to our herbicides
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restrictions document. and for the products themselves, we have added one product, which is that rat contraceptive that i mentioned, the contra pest, and then, we have added a tier one product, t the -- tier three product. the contra pest is a tier one product. we did updates on 18 products. those are mostly administrative changes. i think we did increase the restrictions on a smoke bomb that is sometimes used for rodent burrows, but that is
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administrative changes. that is what you'd see in your packet. i did go through that fast, but we do have a related item to this following on a rat control product -- a dry ice rat control product. we're going to treat that separately, and i am happy to answer any questions you might have about this year's list. >> thanks, chris. commissioners, any questions? i know that the policy committee is already deeply aware of everything on the list. eddie, is there anything that you want to say about the policies, experience, or anything that you want to say as we go into the vote? >> no, not for this particular item. i do think that the rat ice item will be interesting to discuss, though. >> commissioner --
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>> -- stephenson, i have one question. i don't know why i didn't think about this during committee. the question is about weed slayer, i think even though we're adding a substance to the list, we're doing it for good reason, and hopefully, it will work to replace [inaudible]. are other places using this around the country and is there the possibility of getting data from those other places? >> good question. the answer is yes. other jurisdictions -- for example, presidio trust did some informal pilot testing. marin county, and also, rec and park, and some promising results. it's difficult to tell what it can replace in what situation at this point, and i discussed that i'm very skeptical at this
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product. it's not a registered f.d.a. product, it's an exempt product, but can't argue with results, so we're hopeful on this one. >> thank you, chris. >> commissioner wald? >> thank you. i just want to make the following observation in light of the fact that this is my umpty-umpth time to vote on this list. what we're looking at here is not just data that documents how the use of pesticides has declined so very dramatically in the city and county of san francisco, but that what that reflects is something that's sort of implicit in what chris
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talks about, but it represents real and dramatic change in the culture of city agencies in how they think about using pesti sides and what they do to not use them. ---esticides and what they do to not use them. i think it's something that everyone, including chris geiger, should be incredibly proud of. it's great what the department has managed to accomplish [inaudible] we started this. we should all feel a real sense of accomplishments about what has happened and how it has happened and think about, you
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know, really how hard it is to change agency cultures and what an incredibly promising and meaningful change has occurred here. >> thank you. >> any other questions or comments by commissioners? all right. let's go to public comment, katie. >> okay. i'll open it up for public comment. i'll put the instructions back up on the screen. so if you would like to make public comment on this agenda item, please follow the directions on the screen and press star, three to be added to the queue. if you are already in the queue, please wait until it is your turn to speak, and you will have three minutes to make comment. i do see that we have one call in the queue, and i will unmute
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you now. >> can you hear me now? >> yes. >> it's david pillpow. good evening, greetings. sorry. i've been busy with other projects. i still care very much about the commission and the department. i support the continued efforts to reduce pesticide use and transition to less toxic alternatives. commissioner wall commissioner wald already talked about the long road to changing culture over time in the city. we're really talking about dry ice as an alternative and rat contraception? okay. it's -- well, it's 2020, so i guess anything's possible, and hopefully, the supreme court over time will not ban rat contraception as being a problem. so i want to conclude by saying
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i support chris geiger's efforts, and i support your anticipated action to approve the reduced risk pesticide list for this year. thanks very much. >> thank you for your comment. and president stephenson, i'm seeing no other callers in the queue. >> okay. seeing none, let's move to a vote -- or actually, do i hear a motion to -- hold on. i'm just going to hear a motion to pass resolution 2020-003-coe adopting the 2020 reduced risk pes
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pesticide list for city properties? i have a motion, and a second. let's move to the roll call, please. [roll call] >> motion passes. >> and i just want to always thank the policy committee for the work that they do, and chris and your team for the hard, hard work that you do almost every single year. all right. the next item, please, katie. >> all right. the next item is item 7, discussion and vote on whether the commission should send letters to bell laboratories to support distribution of its rat control alternative practiced and to the e.p.a. to support a variance to allow dry ice to be used as a pesti cried. the sponsor is deborah raphael,
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director, and the speaker is chris geiger, integrated pest management program manager. >> so i guess all i can say, how many commissions are jealous that they don't have an item called rat ice. it's an exciting project for us here. it's an interesting story that chris will share a little bit with you that the policy found quite ironic and compelling and a need to weigh-in. so while it sounds odd, i think it's indicative of the plight that we have to get alternatives onto the marketplace, especially when it comes to dealing with the e.p.a. and the very restrictive pesticide requirements. so with that, i will let chris describe the details. >> thank you, debbie. can i share the screen, katie?
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so while i'm getting the screen up -- oh, here we go. slowly getting better at this. so the -- the -- the brief, brief, brief story -- the brief version of the story, for many decades, actually, many decades ago, people used to use dry ice to control rodents. you basically put it in their burrows, and it kills it by asphyxiation. it has no secondary impacts as long as there's no other animals living in the burrows. you use gloves to apply it. >> did you want -- the slide is on public comment. did you want to -- >> sorry.
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oh, dear. there we go. so there was a lot of movement towards finding a way to use dry ice and to use it legally because it was already known to be fairly effective for this particular kind of control if -- the e.p.a. made a statement saying no, it's not legal. you can't use it, and we found a way to use it legally by creating a -- what you call an exempt product that uses the dry ice, and we had that approved by department of pesticide regulation. we were able to, during the two-month period when it was legal for us, to do some pilot testing and confirm, yes, it's pretty effective. we tried it at portsmouth
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square with some promising results, and that, as you know, is rat capital. and the e.p.a. said no, you can't use that. the usual way that e.p.a. operates is registering a product and there by, creating and reviewing a label, and they registered a product called rat ice, and this is from bell labs. so we were sad, but then suddenly, we were happy again because we had a product that we could potentially used that was a replacement for rodenticide for certain situations, and we waited and waited for it to be distributed on the west coast, and we bugged them, and we're not alone in this. we and other agencies with i.p.m. programs, and that was three years ago, and it is not happening. the distribution out here is
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simply not happening, and yet, we still can't use a product that we know to be a safer alternative. so this started out as kind of a failure story for the program activities. we failed to find a way to use this, but we'd love to turn it into a success story and do what we can at least to find a way to do so. so what we recommend is that staff work with the commission to draft two letters to try to push this along. one to bell labs, making it clear to them that there are a lot of agencies and institutional i.v.m. programs who would love to have this item available; is there any way they can make it available on the west coast? and the second letter to the e.p.a. to explore some kind of variance for carbon dioxide,
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dry ice for use in rodents because it is a clear wildlife threat to use some of these rodenticides that are around today. so that is the story and the recommendation for the commission to consider. >> thank you, chris. any questions, commissioners, or comments? >> this is eddie ahn, if i may, president stephenson? >> go ahead, commissioner. >> so the policy committee did support also putting forward these letters positive reasons -- these letters for positive reasons. it's been beset by a number of failures, but pushing it through any way, and then, the
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commissioners can join in the authoring of these letters promoting the usage of these comments? >> commissionera wan? >> i just want to commend you on this. >> thank you. >> all right. commissioner wald? >> yes. chris, can you explain how it works? are we freezing the rats or are we suffocating the rats? >> it doesn't seem that they flee from it as quickly as some other things that you might use on them, like smoke. it's not a pleasant thing to talk about, but it is a health issue. we have a lot of them right
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now, and we don't need anymore. it's a suffocation issue, and there are several ways to block the hole so that it's effective. >> all right. do i hear a motion? -- we're voting on this, right? doing the letter? do i hear a motion to write the letter to bell labs? >> so moved. >> second. >> so moved and seconded by commissioner ahn. sorry, carol. >> just forget public comment, just as a reminder. >> we'll do public comment. so we have a motion and a second. are there any comments by members of the public. >> president stephenson, is there a letter to bell labs or is it a letter to the e.p.a.? i can't remember. >> it's both. >> okay. great.
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>> unless you want to split it up and for some reason not send it to one [inaudible]. >> get it all done. >> okay. great. >> we'll open it up for public comment on this item. instructions for making public comment back up on the screen. if you would like to make a public comment, please remember to press star, three to be added to the queue, and you will have three minutes to make your comment. and i am seeing that we have one caller in the queue, so i will unmute you now, and your three minutes will begin. >> can you hear me now? >> yes. >> it's david pillpow again. i walked away from the computer because i couldn't figure out how to mute it again. i've got it on webex and sfgovtv. by the way, sfgtv isn't having
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closed captions right now. i wanted to speak on the item. let's write a letter to bell labs, and let's get dry ice to suffocate the rodents. thank you. >> okay. i am seeing one additional hand raised in the queue, but not seeing a way to unmute them. oh -- it disappeared. so with that, i'm seeing no more callers in the queue. >> all right. no more callers in the queue, let's close public comment and move to the roll call vote, please. >> all right. [roll call]
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>> all right. the motion passes. next item, please, katie. >> next item is item 8, the director's report. updates on department of the environment, administrative and programatic operations related to budget planning, strategic planning, clean care and transportation, climate, energy, public outreach and education, environmental justice, habitat restoration, green building, zero waste, toxics reduction, and urban forestry, the speaker is deborah raphael, director, and the document is the explanatory document, director's report. >> i just wanted to highlight a few things that i'm
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particularly excited about that i want to bring to your attention. first, and this is something that president stephenson talked about that, yesterday, we went before the land use and transportation committee to -- for the first committee hearing of the all electric new construction ordinance. we knew that it was likely to be continued there because there are further discussions that need to happen before we finalize the legislation, and supervisor mandelman has been actively leading conversations with various stakeholders. it was a spirited discussion, and it was also very supportive, absolutely supportive of the concept. just some more stakeholders that need to come to the table. so you have been hearing a lot about how we have been pivoting our messaging in times of covid, everything from the bay run program, which is on energy
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efficiency. they have been doing webinars on training, running ads linking covid response and public health to moderating the climate in their homes, especially in light of the increased temperature, so we've been trying to promote people to be all electric and look at electric cook tops and thermostats all in the air of responding to climate change. the silver linings have been for us are the partnerships that we forged with what used to the emergency operations center. now it's changed its name to the covid command center, the c.c.c. out of moscone center. it's truly been a fruitful partnership. we have a lot of staff that work there, and we have found ways to align our mission.
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for example, there's a big push to get information and personal protective equipment out to low-income communities. we provide the bags, the reuseable bags, 8,000 of them. and in those bags are materials about zero waste and materials about low toxic cleaning products as well as the personal protective gear and information about protecting yourself against covid. so the covid response becomes a partner with us in getting our messages out. as you know, we worked very closely with the department of public health to make sure reusable bags would be allowed back into grocery stores. at the same time, remember the charge for bags is going up to 25 cents, and there were new requirements on precheck out bags, for example, the produce bags needing to be compostable. so our team has reached out to almost 700 businesses to let
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them know about the fact that the reusable bags are allowed and about these new challenges. it's been very challenging for environment now to get the word out and to make sure that everyone's aware, but they've been doing yeoman's effort. you remember we talked about last time our emergency ride home program and we pivoted that to employee ride home. our team is continuing to work with the c.c.c. also to get the word out about -- to essential workers. so it's been an amazing opportunity to insert ourselves and partner with city agencies who we aren't normally partnering with, and i think that's the blessing of a pandemic. in terms of transportation, there's an interesting thing that's happening, just to let you know.
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jeff tumlin, the director of m.t.a., realized that there were many people interested in what was going on and concerned about transit. he created a roundtable and if any of you are interested in participating in it, let me know, and it's held every other week. at the last one he held, he shared something that was interesting. as you can imagine, there's a huge concern around the messaging of the safety of transit, and this was something that ted egan talked about. this is a psychology problem that needs to be talked about that's not unique to m.t.a. so the m.t.c. is putting together a blue ribbon task force to tackle this and think about how we get this messaging out on a regional scale. so i'm -- i'm very interested in what they're going to be doing and thinking about how the department of environment can support that messaging with
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our great social media channels and the other ways we do a behavior change. a couple of milestones. sunday was the 100-year anniversary of recology, and i -- it made me realize that in 2019, the end of 2019, i put a handout together of all the milestones that 2020 would have, to the 50th anniversary of earth day, the 100 anniversary of golden gate park, 100th anniversary of women's suffrage, and including recology. every one of those milestones had a huge event planned, and every one of those milestones has passed quietly. so we can give a cheer to recology that they continue to be thriving and a wonderful partner after 100 years on the job. this is new york climate week.
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it's also had to, you know, very much shift, but there are 350 events on-line if anyone's interested in spending some more time in front of your computer. and a thing that's captivating many of our staff is our future move to 1155 market. we're in the process of budgeting for carpet and paint and thinking about what we can do on a shoe string and thinking about how we pack up our boxes now, keep them in storage or a year or keep them in place for six months, and then, they move to another place for another six months before we actually show up to unpack them. so it's quite a process, so in a way, there's a blessing with the fact this we don't have to unplug our computers on friday and plug them back in on monday. it gives us some time to be creative in a new space. that is what's keeping us busy.
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lots keeping up active as we go on this journey, so thank you. >> thanks, debbie. commissioners, any discussions? all right. let's open it up to public comment, please. >> okay. i will pull up the directions. if you'd like to make a public comment on this agenda item, please follow the instructions i just pulled up on the screen, and be sure to press star, three to be added to the queue, and you will have two minutes to make your public comment. and i am seeing one caller in the queue, so i will start the timer, and i will unmute you now. >> can you hear me now? >> yes. >> it's david pillpow again. hopefully, the last time tonight. although not directly on point to the director's report, i did
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want to note among the various passings of people in the past few months was denise deann, a long time member of san francisco tomorrow, a long time city employee. when denise worked at the then-department of social services, now part of the home services agency, she absolutely gathered up paper clips in an effort to conserve our resources and was just a long-time great supporter. i see commissioner wald nodding, and, you know, there have been so money people lost in the world due to covid, so many people for other reasons, so many great city people and retired city people, but i -- i absolutely wanted to call out denise as being a great loss to all of us, and with that, i say
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thank you to everyone listening and participating for all of your good continuing efforts. thanks again, take care. >> thank you for your comments. okay. and i am seeing no additional callers in the queue. >> okay. next item, please. >> the next item on our agenda is item 9, committee reports, and this item is for discussion. >> great. commissioner ahn, would you please give us your update on policy meeting. >> yes. on september 17, policy committee had their first meeting since the shelter in place. we had several presentations, and of course as commission approved the list today, so i think it gets us off on the right track.
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that concludes my report. >> okay. commissioners, any discussion? okay. let's open up public comment on the policy committee report. >> okay. if you would like to make a public comment regarding this agenda item, please follow the instructions on the screen and be sure to press star, three, and you will have three minutes to make your public comment. and i'm not seeing any callers currently, but maybe we'll just take a brief pause for anyone who would like to call in at this time.
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okay. i'm still seeing no additional callers in the queue. >> all right. next item, please. >> okay. our next item is item 10, announcements, and this item is for discussion. >> commissioners, does anyone have any announcements you'd like to make? all right. seeing no announcements, is there any public comment on this item? >> okay, and once again, if you would like to make a public comment on this agenda item, please be sure to press star, three to be added to the queue, and you will have three minutes to make your comment. okay. and i'm not currently seeing
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any public comment, but maybe we'll just take another brief pause. okay. i'm seeing no callers in the queue. >> all right. public comment's now closed. next item, please. >> okay. the next item is item 11, new business and future agenda items. the speaker is charles sheehan, chief policy and public affairs officer, and this item is for discussion >> go ahead, charles.
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>> thank you, commissioner. charles sheehan, policy and public affairs officer for the department. the next commission meeting is slated to be october 21. the next policy committee meeting is slated to be october 26, and the next slated commission meeting is scheduled to be november 24. coming up at your next commission meeting, we're looking at a number of agenda items, which may include the second plan of our racial equity plan presentation. some of that might be contingent upon directions and guidance from the office of racial equity, which they are issuing to all departments. we're also looking at a larger energy efficiency update and what's going on with the energy efficiency team at the department, and other policy profits, potentially for the full commission or the policy subcommittee. there's sfcta congested management congestion management report that we'll want to hear from sfcta on, and
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there's a sustainable consumption report that we will also want to present on. >> thank you. i wanted to confirm the operations committee date. is that a monday? >> i will have to quickly look that up, but if you -- >> is that october 26? >> no. the operations committee meeting is october 21. >> and then, november 24 is that thanksgiving break week, not that anyone's going to have much of a break. it may not be an issue, but i still would like to explore changing the bylaws so that we move it a week earlier or a week later as a standard so we're not trying to fit it in on the tuesday before thanksgiving. >> and maybe we'll have a quorum this time because where else are whee all going to be,
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but maybe that won't be the case. >> okay. we'll look at changing that. >> meeting discussion, questions, commissioners' comments? all right. seeing none, let's move to public comment, please. >> all right. if you would like to make a public comment on this agenda item, please follow the instructions on the screen and be sure to press star, three to be added to the queue, and you will then have three minutes to make your public comment, and i'm not currently seeing any callers in the queue, but we can take another brief pause in case anyone would like to call in.
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okay. i'm seeing no callers in the queue. >> great. next item, please. >> okay. the next item on the agenda is item 12, adjournment, and this meeting is adjourned, and the time is 7:37 p.m. thank you for joining us. >> thanks, everybody, for your diligence and your attention.
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welcome, city attorney herrera. >> good morning. thank you to mayor breed, chief scott, supervisors peskin and haney for joining me this morning to highlight our collective commitment to combating an all too familiar problem. open air drug dealing in the tenderloin. we're all created to solutions to make sure we combat this epidemic that is taking control of the tenderloin neighborhood. this morning, my office sued 28 known drug dealers, file. they do not live in the tenderloin, but sell deadly drugs there. the drugs that are fueling the drug crisis in our streets.
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this is to stop the brazen drug-dealing that has plagued this neighborhood. last year alone 441 people died from drug overdoses in the city and the tenderloin had the highest overdose mortality rate of any neighborhood in the city. enough is enough. these injunctions are carefully crafted to simultaneously safeguard a defendant's due process while targeting with precision, the problem of drug dealers coming from outside the area to prey on tenderloin residents, housed and unhoused. this prevents the 28 named defendants from entering the tenderloin and part of the adjacent south of market neighborhood. roughly from van ness to ellis and geary to mission. the tenderloin would become a protected zone and these defendants, none of whom live in the tenderloin, would be allowed to go there unless they had a
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lawful legitimate reason to be there. we're focused on the predatory repeat dealers selling the most dangerous drugs, including those leading to the most deaths. we have rigorous criteria. he or she was arrested at least twice for drug sales or possession of drugs for the purpose of sales in the tenderloin in the past year and a half. one of those arrests must have been in the last nine months. both of the arrests must have led to either criminal charges by the district attorney or a motion to revoke probation. the drugs involved were fentanyl, heroin, cocaine or methamphetamine. and the defendant is not a tenderloin resident. has been given the opportunity to present their defense in court at a hearing and the court
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finds there is sufficient evidence to warrant the injunction. in other words, an injunction is issued if the need for it is proven in a court of law. demographics or group affiliations were not considered when putting together these lawsuits. violations of the injunctions will have civil and criminal consequences. violations carry civil penalties of up to $6,000 per violation. perhaps just as important, violations can also be pursued as misdemeanor crimes and subject to the defendant's immediate arrest. an arrest leads to the search and confiscation of drugs or contraband a person has in his or her possession. these actions are aimed slowly at criminals coming to prey on the people of the tenderloin. we know who the predators are and we will not allow them to victimize tenderloin residents. our message to these dealers is
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simple. if you come to the tenderloin, you'll be arrested and your drugs will be confiscated. this is not a silver bullet. more needs to be done, including drug treatment options, expanded mental health and a focus on major narcotics suppliers, but this gives one more tool to the law enforcement to help keep the tenderloin residents safe. we need to stop this neighborhood from being used as the open air drug market. our goal is to keep the dealers out of the tenderloin. the kids, the parents, the seniors, the workers, the business owners of this neighborhood have suffered enough and deserve nothing less. the tenderloin has the highest concentration of children in the city. it also has the highest number of overdose deaths and that is not acceptable.
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once the pandemic improves, the kids of the pandemic deserve to be able to go to the school, playground, go see a friend without being caught in the middle of a drug deal or a person overdosing on the sidewalk. this won't solve the problem, but it's a step work taking. i hadn't to thank the hard-working men and women in the san francisco police department. their diligence laid the ground work to put together this creative approach to public safety. i want to thank the team in my office that worked hard to come up with a way that will deal with a longstanding problem. i also want to thank our mayor for her tremendous support and leadership during this incredibly challenging time for our city, as well as supervisors peskin and haney, for their commitment to combating this problem. with that, i would like to introduce our mayor, london breed.
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>> mayor breed: good morning, everyone. thank you, all, so much for being here today. i want to begin by thanking dennis has rare kerrera and the attorney office to deal with one of the biggest challenges in the tenderloin community. not so long ago we set down a path to address what we saw as a significant increase in homelessness and tent encampments in the t.l. and we made a lot of progress. over 400 tents removed with over 600 people. we're now down to less than 30 tents. and we drive around the tenderloin, we walk around the tenderloin, and you would think that nothing has ever happened there. that no progress has been made.
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you see hundreds of people on blocks throughout the t.l. who are dealing drugs openly, in broad daylight. you see people pushing strollers, mothers, who have to go out on the streets to go around the drug dealing and the drug using and the challenges that exist there. i grew up in this city. i grew up not too far from the tenderloin in the western edition. and the tenderloin has always had its challenges, but it has never been worse. it has never been worse. and we can't do this work alone. we need to make sure that, yes, we address the challenges that exist with people who struggle with addiction. this is why i'm fighting so hard to get safe injection sites open. why i'm fighting to get expanded mental health support, because
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those of you who have family members who suffer with addicti addiction, you know how challenging it is to get them on the right path. we have to do more as a city to provide alternatives. and then we know the challenges that exist. the people who are being trafficked to sell drugs on our streets from other countries. the folks who are coming from other bay area cities because they know san francisco is a place where they can make a lot of money. san francisco has become the place to go to sell drugs. it is known widely. and that has got to stop, because there has to be consequences. look, i understand there might be financial challenges, but the fact is, we can't tolerate what we see happening in the tenderloin or any other neighborhood in our city. people have got to be held accountable for the destruction
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they are causing to these communities. and when we talk about destruction, we're talking about the people who are dying in record numbers from drug overdoses right in the tenderloin. this is a commonsense solution to a very, very complex problem. and i really want to, again, express my appreciation to our city attorney, dennis herrera, for not only putting together a unique plan, but for caring about this issue in the first place. and i want to thank him for working with the san francisco police department to actually use data to inform this decision. we know that there is a lot of work to do. and we can't continue to let the tenderloin be the breeding ground for all that is problematic and challenging in
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our city. it's going to take helping with homelessness. it's going to take drug treatment. it's going to take supporting low-income families and people who live in that community. and, yes, it's going to take holding the people who are holding this community hostage with the rampant drug-dealing that is completely devastated this neighborhood. we have to do better and we will do better. this is a step in the right direction. and i'm looking forward to seeing the results of this work. and i want to thank all those who have been involved and supportive of this issue. and we have got to get the job done and that's what this is about. with that, i want to introduce the police chief of san francisco, chief scott. >> good morning. thank you, mayor breed.
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first, i want to start off by thanking our mayor london breed for her relentless leadership when it comes to this issue. as the mayor stated, this problem is pervasive and i also want to thank our city attorney dennis herrera for an innovative strategy that really gives us a much better opportunity to turn the corner on the drug dealing in the tenderloin. i would like to thank supervisors peskin and haney for their support and leadership on this issue. you'll hear from them as well in a second. the men and women of the san francisco police department and those say sign -- assigned to the tenderloin, have been working very, very hard to address the rampant drug-dealing in the tenderloin. during a recent three-month operation to focus on narcotics dealers, the tenderloin officers
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and the narcotics detail officers arrested over 267 individuals for drug sales. 267. and although that number may sound high, it's just a drop in the bucket. our officers seized over $144,000 in u.s. currency and a combination of over 7,000 grams of cocaine, methamphetamine, heroin, fentanyl and other drugs. 210 of those arrests had prior arrests in san francisco and 55 of the 267 arrests were in violation of court-issued stay away orders where they were prohibited from the area where they were selling drugs. 58 of those arrested live outside of the city of san
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francisco. now our efforts to combine or combat narc sales in the tenderloin are ongoing as of today. and today's announcement of injunctions filed by our city attorney will help us address the concerns and complaints of tenderloin residents and merchants. and those complaints come pouring in daily. these dealers prey on a vulnerable population and contribute to the drug degradation of the quality of life who work and live in the tenderloin. these injunctions give law enforcement officers another tool in our tool kit. violators face up to a $6,000 fine, misdemeanor arrest and officers can potentially seize money and drugs along with other contraband. with the combined efforts in the
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drug treatment and other public health strategies, we hope to have a positive effect on the quality of life in the tenderloin area. as was stated by the mayor -- i can't emphasize this enough -- we have to do more, we have do better and we will do better. we cannot and will not further tolerate drug dealers coming into the tenderloin from wherever they're coming from throughout the bay area to ruin our community. the injunctions will make coming back to the tenderloin have more serious consequences. and, drug dealers, if you're out there watching this news conference, know that your actions will not and cannot be tolerated any longer in the city and county of san francisco. with that, i'd like to turn the mic over to supervisor aaron peskin. thank you. >> supervisor peskin: chief, thank you, city attorney
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herrera, mayor breed, for what is truly a creative solution. this is not a silver bullet. it must be coupled with mental health services, with drug treatment, with the addition of sorely needed affordable housing in and around the tenderloin. a year ago supervisor haney and i went to a meeting together just up the street in the tenderloin wherein we witnessed an individual who was literally dying of a fentanyl overdose. we were able to locate some narcan and that individual is alive today, but that should not be happening on our streets. this is not only a creative solution, but it is one where city attorney herrera has crafted it very carefully in conjunction with my office. has done so in a way that honors the civil rights of individuals in our community. it is structured fairly and will
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be supported by the board of supervisors. i want to thank the city attorney. we're going to make a difference in the tenderloin. and if this works, this is a model that be exported to other parts of san francisco because when you look at those 441 deaths, it is true a disproportionate number of them are in the tenderloin, but those individuals who are preying on weak individuals in our community are not just operating in the tenderloin. and if this is a success, i look forward to working with the city attorney office, the chief of police and mayor to export this model to the rest of the city and county of san francisco. we are available for questions and comments.
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thank you, supervisor peskin. we'll begin with the q&a portion with city attorney herrera. the first set of questions are from kate wolf. the aclu and other community groups have said injunctions like gang injunctions used in the past don't address root problems and violate people's civil liberties. can you address how these injunctions will be different from those? >> one thing you heard uniformly, both from the mayor, from supervisor peskin and from the chief of police, this is part of a -- has to be part of a comprehensive approach that focuses on drug rehab, mental health and the like. so there is no doubt that we need to also get the root causes which are contributing to our problem. however, this is different from gang injunctions. this is not based on affiliation
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or status, it is based on going after individuals who have been known to engage in criminal conduct that has been charged by the district attorney and arrests by the police department for known activity that has occurred in the tenderloin. the fact of the matter is, we carefully crafted this to make sure it was based on conduct, not on status or affiliation. and there is also the opportunity for if people have a legitimate reason to be in the 50-square block area, the protected zone, courts, city hall, have all been exempted from the limitation of movement. so this is very different from gang injunctions. i think it is something people need to be aware of. this is based on conduct, not status. and demonstrable conduct from individuals who don't even live in the tenderloin and 27 of the 28 don't even live in the city and county of san francisco.
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>> thank you, city attorney. the next question is from joe with bay city news. why would civil injunctions be used instead of criminal actions if the city knows who the dealers are? >> it's another tool in the tool kit. certainly, there are criminal penalties that can accrue, but the fact of the matter is, if someone is going to suffer a financial penalty of a significant dollar amount, that is something that dissuades individuals from engaging. with respect to these injunctions, you have two tools, a criminal sanction as well as a civil sanction which did not occur previously. this encompasses the whole tenderloin, where something that the chief referred to earlier, the stay-away orders in other criminal cases were designed to be with respect to one
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particular corner or block. it was not nearly as comprehensive as what we're seeking here today. >> thank you, city attorney. that concludes today's press conference. thank you, everyone, for joining us.
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. >> good afternoon, everyone. my name is naiomi kelly. we are joined here today with adrien adrian pawn, and dell seymor and mario pause. we're all here today because we want to make sure everyone fills out the census. it is our s.f. accounts campaign is a multi-lingual, multi-cultural outreach that is canvassing many businesses, residences, and everyone to make sure that they fill out the census. we need to reach every corner of san francisco to remove barriers for your participation. i want to thank you to our
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partners. the self help for the elderly and all those who are helping us making sure that every san franciscan fills out the census. time is of the essence. completing the census in 2020 is more important than ever. census data informs our community mental health, child care systems, emergency services, nutrition programs, and education and healthcare resources. if we don't get counted, we won't get this important money that we need to serve our most vulnerable residents. this means more accountability and representation to make sure our most vulnerable communities get the funding they deserve. the census is ending september 30, in one week. this is earlier than originally planned. it means there is a greater risk
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of an under count. we need to get the message out today. this is a call of action. do the census and do it now. it is easy. you can complete the nine questions in less than five minutes. i completed my household in three minutes. you can do it on -- you can fill out the census online at my2020census.gov or you can call by phone at 844-330-2020. remember, the 2020 census is safe and confidential. your response to the census are protected by law and it cannot be shared by anyone including other governmentings a -- government agencies. do the census and do it now. we have a call of action and we are kicking this off which
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starts at civic center plaza. i would to address adrian pawn to tell you about the events coming up for the next week. thank you. [applaus [applause]. >> thank you, naomi and thank you for your leadership. let's give us up for ms. naomi kelly, the city administrator. hi, everyone. thank you, first of all, for coming out and being present here today and helping us help our residents participate in the 2020 census. a lot of people in san francisco face barriers, language
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barriers, digital barriers, and physical barriers to doing the census on their own. that's why we are so grateful for all our community partners, the immigrant rights commission. i want to give a shout out to the immigrant rights share. everybody pulling together, every community, district, neighborhood, to do this for the san francisco family. so we are happy to launch today's event. we've already had more than 50 households participate in the census. that's going to help san francisco get its numbers up. because, you know, for every person who participates in the census, it brings in $2,000 each year for things that are important to the city, your pot-holes and p.p.e. for first
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responders, your hospitals and schools. every person that participates means that 400 seniors or little kids get to eat before their daily meal every single year. every single person can make a difference. as ms. kelly said, we need everybody to go online before september 30, the last day of the census, and do the census. it only takes a few minutes. for those who need the help, this is why in the next days we are going to be out in the community, starting at civic center and tomorrow in chinatown, and on saturday at mendel plaza in the bayview and capping it off on tuesday, look for the big census bus, a lot of arts, billboards, a lot of lowriders and cars going all through the city to get everybody to participate. we can do this, but we can't do
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it by ourselves. we can't count on the census bureau to do all the counting. we have to do it for ourselves in san francisco. we have to do it because there are a lot of people depending on us. i want to thank our community partners, they are the awesome people out here volunteering with our city staff from the office of civic engagement and immigrant affairs. with that, i'm going to introduce somebody who doesn't need any introduction. he is the mayor of the tenderloin, he is our hero, and has been doing it for the tenderloin and the south market and district 6 since july of last year when we all started this, mr. dell seymor.
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>> hey, good afternoon. i will not be long. until a couple of years ago, i thought the united states citizen count was the most boring thing, but now i want to find out who cares and what matters. if the people who are standing here today, if each one of you all will go and recruit 10 people to come and sign up for the census, that will be about $100,000 to the city. you could bring $100,000 to the city. do you know how many shelter beds that is, how many showers, how many meals? ask someone across the street what that $100,000 could mean to this city. they don't have any idea how
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many people are out here and on the streets and in need. they talk this b.s. that the african-american population is less than 4% of san francisco. tell me we are only 4%. that's one of the biggest myths there is. we can bust that mist by telling those people who we are. let's stand up and tell sacramento who we are and city hall and stand up and tell washington and number 45, i will not mention his name, let's tell number 45 who we are, what we don't have, what we do have and what we don't have. it's all about our folks right now. we're hurting real bad right now and no one understands how many people are in need on our streets. come to the tenderloin and walk
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down the streets. watch people go in and out. go to some of the shelters in the morning where people walk out, not knowing where they're going, not having any idea where they are going for the day. i don't know if you account for it. you know where you're going and going to be tomorrow, sunday, and next week. our folks don't know where they're going to be at 6:01. we can change that to get more funding for our communities in san francisco, but we have to be counted and stand up. one of the shirts over there says "i'm not invisible." we all need to be advisable. . we are our brothers and sisters keepers.
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thank you and thank you, folks, for inviting me on the program. god bless. i'm going to bring up mario who will give you his spiel. thank you. >> good afternoon, everyone. i want to acknowledge naomi kelly and adrian pawn, and everyone behind me has been working so hard to make sure we get a complete census count in san francisco. 2020 is a year we're all going to remember. so many in our community have been beaten down by the pandemic and the economic fallout. right now in the city hall are the mayor and the city leaders trying to figure out how to
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navigate us through this crisis. it's not easy. it's hard. we want to make sure that we get through this crisis where no one is left behind. the only way we can do that is to make sure everyone completes the census. we need every federal dollar we are entitled to. we can't do it alone. we need you to tell your friends, family, make sure your children are counted. they are the most under counted. make a challenge in your own family to reach out. this is critical. we've got 10 days left. there are events in the city if you need help completing the census, you can get the help. again, there is a lot at stake here. this is a year we're never going to forget. this city is resilient, strong, and has always been a national leader. we don't leave people behind in
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this city. we care about every resident. that's what we're asking san francisco to do, to care for every resident. stand up and fill out the census and be counted. thank you. >> let me do my cleanup duty her. >> this concludes our press conference. i want to thank everyone for being here today. fill out the census. thank you. we need you. [♪]
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>> working with kids, they keep you young. they keep you on your tones -- on your toes. >> teaching them, at the same time, us learning from them, everything is fulfilling. >> ready? go. [♪] >> we really wanted to find a way to support women entrepreneurs in particular in
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san francisco. it was very important for the mayor, as well as the safety support the dreams that people want to realize, and provide them with an opportunity to receive funding to support improvements for their business so they could grow and thrive in their neighborhoods and in their industry. >> three, two, one! >> because i am one of the consultants for two nonprofits here for entrepreneurship, i knew about the grand through the renaissance entrepreneur center, and through the small business development center. i thought they were going to be perfect candidate because of their strong values in the community. they really give back to the neighborhood. they are from this neighborhood, and they care about the kids in the community here. >> when molly -- molly first told us about the grant because she works with small businesses. she has been a tremendous help for us here. she brought us to the attention of the grand just because a lot of things here were outdated, and need to be up-to-date and
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redone totally. >> hands in front. recite the creed. >> my oldest is jt, he is seven, and my youngest is ryan, he is almost six. it instills discipline and the boys, but they show a lot of care. we think it is great. the moves are fantastic. the women both are great teachers. >> what is the next one? >> my son goes to fd k. he has been attending for about two years now. they also have a summer program, and last summer was our first year participating in it. they took the kids everywhere around san francisco. this year, owner talking about placing them in summer camps, all he wanted to do was spend the entire summer with them. >> he has strong women in his life, so he really appreciates
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it. i think that carries through and i appreciate the fact that there are more strong women in the world like that. >> i met d'andrea 25 years ago, and we met through our interest in karate. our professor started on cortland years ago, so we grew up here at this location, we out -- he outgrew the space and he moved ten years later. he decided to reopen this location after he moved. initially, i came back to say, hey, because it might have been 15 years since i even put on a uniform. my business partner was here basically by herself, and the person she was supposed to run the studio with said great, you are here, i started new -- nursing school so you can take over. and she said wait, that is not what i am here for i was by myself before -- for a month before she came through. she was technically here as a
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secretary, but we insisted, just put on the uniform, and help her teach. i was struggling a little bit. and she has been here. one thing led to another and now we are co-owners. you think a lot more about safety after having children and i wanted to not live in fear so much, and so i just took advantage of the opportunity, and i found it very powerful to hit something, to get some relief, but also having the knowledge one you might be in a situation of how to take care of yourself. >> the self-defence class is a new thing that we are doing. we started with a group of women last year as a trial run to see how it felt. there's a difference between self-defence and doing a karate class. we didn't want them to do an actual karate class. we wanted to learn the fundamentals of how to defend yourself versus, you know, going
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through all the forms and techniques that we teaching a karate class and how to break that down. then i was approached by my old high school. one -- once a semester, the kids get to pick an extra curricular activity to take outside of the school walls. my old biology teacher is now the principle. she approached us into doing a self-defence class. the girls have been really proactive and really sweet. they step out of of the comfort zone, but they have been willing to step out and that hasn't been any pushback. it is really great. >> it is respect. you have to learn it. when we first came in, they knew us as those girls. they didn't know who we were. finally, we came enough for them to realize, okay, they are in the business now. it took a while for us to gain that respect from our peers, our male peers. >> since receiving the grant, it has ignited us even more, and put a fire underneath our butts
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even more. >> we were doing our summer camp and we are in a movie theatre, and we just finished watching a film and she stepped out to receive a phone call. she came in and she screamed, hey, we got the grant. and i said what? >> martial arts is a passion for us. it is passion driven. there are days where we are dead tired and the kids come and they have the biggest smiles on their faces and it is contagious. >> we have been operating this program for a little over a year all women entrepreneurs. it is an extraordinary benefit for us. we have had the mayor's office investing in our program so we can continue doing this work. it has been so impactful across a diversity of communities throughout the city. >> we hope that we are making some type of impact in these kids' lives outside of just learning karate. having self-confidence, having discipline, learning to know when it's okay to stand up for yourself versus you just being a
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bully in school. these are the values we want the kids to take away from this. not just, i learned how to kick and i learned how to punch. we want the kids to have more values when they walk outside of these doors. [♪] >> hi. i'm chris manners, and you're watching coping with covid-19. today, i'm going to be talking
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about checking with your neighbors. >> start off by giving your neighbor a call to see how they are or if they need help. if they don't answer, don't get anxious. try again later. check to see if their car is parked nearby. are they lights being turned on and off during normal hours? if you still can't contact them, contact your other neighbors and see if they've had contact with them recently. you can also leave a note in their mailbox, and when you do get in touch with them, ask if they'd like to share their emergency contact information. if you're getting groceries for a neighbor, get a mask and sanitizing wipe. put the groceries by the front door and then move back and call them from the sidewalk. if you need to ring the
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doorbell, don't use your hand. use the wipe or paper towel that you brought. when you call, stay on the sidewalk at least 6 feet away from them. as you're talking to them, ask about any other help they might need. some might need further assistance with groceries or just need to chat. maybe they might need you to pick up prescriptions from the pharmacy. and as always, as soon as you get home, wash your hands. here's a quick recap. >> well, that's it for this episode. i hope you found it useful.
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>> good evening. [speaking foreign language]
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to this year's latino cultural heritage month celebration. i'm the cultural curator, san francisco native, and i'm honored to be your mc this evening. we would like to take a moment to acknowledge the native people of this land, also known as san francisco. we are in their sacred space, and we honor and thank them for allowing us here. also, while we cannot gather in person here at city hall this evening for our regular reception, with lots of incredible food, we have a great list of latino-owned restaurants in our facebook event for you to choose from. be sure to check them out and order one of their specials for this event. this year's theme means always united. we have always been here, united by land, ancient trade routes, mother tongues, spirits and
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gods. [speaking foreign language] today more than ever in the face of adversity and injustice we must look at ourselves as a people and find strength in our multiracial, multi-ethnic, multi-faceted identity, identities with deep roots in this land. we will still be here despite covid-19, a pandemic that has disproportionately impacted our latino community, a community that is essential to the cultural and economic fabric of this country. it is our resilience, respect and love for one another that has helped us persevere throughout the century. this moment is just a chapter in our story in this land. only together will we overcome the impossible once again.
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now it is my honor to introduce our opening performance, a mission-based group of traditional dancers with origins from the valley of modern day mexico city. ♪ ♪
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>> gracias. thank you very much. gracias. [speaking foreign language] i want to thank today we are traditional dancers here from the mission district. [speaking foreign language] viva las americas. we are here, it's an honor to be here and we are very proud to represent all the cultures from mexico through all the south.
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viva las americas. gracias. ♪ ♪ >> i first met, gosh, over 30 years ago, and i remember the first time i met her, and here was this grand woman full of confidence and just this presence, and i thought, wow. >> almost 20 years ago when she first began her journey through the department of public health. she had great capacity from the very moment i met her. what i saw in her was an ability to see things in a much higher scale than most people. she was on a quest, a vision quest. >> when maria would say i can help you with that, she was going to be full on making sure
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that she did what she promised she would do. >> her -- was all about making sure that -- were heard. after her passing, there were ways in which i didn't even realize she was working with the people and the hath that she had. >> she just had joy. she walked through life with a sense of [indiscernible]. >> certainly her passion for art and for the artists in her -- believed that art is essential to create change, to carry that through in whatever she did. >> every community has something to offer to the city, and she worked very hard to make sure that that was echoed in the cultural centers. it was important for her to listen to artists and cultural workers and staff and bringing their ideas to the table and leading in that way. >> one of her biggest loves, her
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main love, espanola. she was raised to be the beautiful woman that she is, she has left so many gifts for palloma, and paloma was the greatest joy for maria. >> for sure when she left this earth, she felt loved. it's such an honor to speak to her today and to call her name, and i want to thank all the community members for this celebration, the latino heritage, that she's being recognized. it's very important that we never forget her and to keep her memory alive. >> and the passing of her from so many different people and all these different projects and within the health department, just about how much she meant to them in terms of her encouragement and her leadership and her mentoring of people, from all ages and all walks of life, and that's a huge impact
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and legacy that she has left. >> she had an ability to see things in people that sometimes the person themselves could not see. i certainly benefited from that. what she would leave that i couldn't accomplish, things at a time i wasn't sure i could accomplish, and i felt like maria believed in me, then i could do my best. >> maria martinez was an incredible leader in our community, and we miss her deeply. a sincere thank you, gracias, to her daughter, paloma, who is watching tonight, for sharing your mother with the world. your communities here for you and your familia as we grieve this tremendous loss. now, i have the honor of introducing our host, the 45th mayor of the city and county of san francisco, mayor london
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breed. >> good evening. thank you so much for that introduction, rodrigo. it is so great to have a reason to dress up. i wish we could be at city hall right now to celebrate together in the rotunda, but we are still able to have an event that celebrates and honors our incredible resilient and united latino community. thank you again, rodrigo, for serving as our emcee tonight and for our host committee for their hard work. that tribute video for maria x. martinez was absolutely incredible, and i know that her legacy and the work that she did for not only the latino community but for the arts and so many other people throughout this city will live on through her work. tonight we are here to honor a community that has faced significant hardships and difficulties this year, but who
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has also stepped up to the challenge and showed the world what it is made of. this community has worked to minimize the impacts of covid-19 in our latino community, but despite our early focus on equity and collaboration with the community, disparities have persisted. we know the numbers. nearly half of all covid-19 cases in san francisco are in the latino community despite only being 15% of our city's population. these numbers are proof that what we are doing was not enough. this community organized and advocated for more funding and more resources, and i am proud to work with them and our city department to deliver. and this is just the beginning. we need to continue working together, not just to minimize these impacts but to go above and beyond in supporting one another and creating long-term
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and impactful changes beyond covid-19. this includes economic and workforce development, housing, food security and family support, and of course other resources for our residents and our small businesses. it includes making sure that our latino community is not only in the room but at the table when these decisions and policies are being made. it means supporting our latino-owned businesses from the mission to visitation valley to the excelsior. it means standing together, always united, to push for more equality and just in all of our diverse communities. tonight we honor that unity and that spirit of community that fuels our work. and as one of our honorees might say, feed the soul. i hope you all order from your favorite latino-owned restaurant for dinner tonight in place of
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our regular reception. i have my tacos, my crispy tacos, from puerto alegra, which i absolutely love. we have a wonderful show in store for you tonight. we'll be honoring three amazing leaders, roger, melva, roberto, people that i absolutely love and adore, folks who are doing incredible things in the community. there will be some more amazing performances, some spoken word, and even some comedy. the arts are how we truly celebrate and lift up our cultures, especially in san francisco. while we recognize the immense hardships and difficulties that we all have faced over the years, but especially in our latino community, tonight we celebrate hope, hope that we'll emerge from this pandemic stronger and more resilient than ever before, hope that we will
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inspire future generations of leaders to step up and to serve like the many leaders who are stepping up today. hope that we'll always be united. thank you all again for tuning in, and i hope you enjoy tonight's celebrations. >> thank you, mayor breed. now i'd like to take a moment to recognize an incredible group of latina and latino leaders and organizations that are working to meet the needs of our community members city-wide, the san francisco latino task force on covid-19 is collectively minimizing the barriers between latino and latina families and the resources available by the city and county of san francisco, the state of california, and nationwide. they are the greatest example of community uniting to provide and support one another. >> it's a group of organizations that are working together to
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minimize the impacts that covid is having on latinos. we have a number of committees to make sure that latinos have access to resources, to make sure that latinos stay alive and healthy and safe, and they have what they need to not only be healthy but to just thrive in the city of san francisco. >> the food distribution is one of the most crucial gifts that we can give as a community to our community. it is a matter of economic and financial survival. they don't have to worry about using the money to go to food. they can pay their rent or they can pay bills, so during covid, if we can keep our community fed and sustained in a healthy way, they can survive in other ways. they can figure out the other ways to survive. >> the need that we're seeing spans across young people, parents, grandparents, immigrant folks, people who don't have
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access to technology, people who don't understand how unemployment works or how governmental systems and bureaucracies work, so one of the things we're really proud about with lts as far as the resources is that all of the services and employments that we have, they are offered in person. that's intentional, right, that there's somebody who looks like you who speaks your language who can explain things to you in a way that makes sense. >> we also have a testing hub. we try to target the latino community, the undocumented community, and also the essential services for this community. we try to make sure that we target that population because as the data shows we are 51% of the positive cases. >> one of the things about growing up in the mission and learning from our elders and our activists is that we do things in a way that is very -- it's with self-determination, and our value system and our guiding
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principles are this: community led, community implemented and community driven. with those three guiding principles, we decide how things are done in this community. >> that's really how it works, is we call upon each other to come and support. we need volunteers to give away food, we show up. we need people to staff our resource hub upstairs, we show up. that's just the nature of the community and that's the nature of the community that we lead. >> good evening, everyone. it is an honor for me and i am moved to play the distinct role of introducing to you the recipients of the -- community award. roberto has deep roots in the mission community, and throughout his life he had exercised passion in every single advocacy role that he
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played with our community. he is a father. he is a grandfather. most recently a young -- congratulations, roberto, by the way. roberto has a unique talent of feeding and quenching our thirst for culture and bands and music throughout san francisco. however, most recently due to the covid-19 pandemic that's mostly affecting latino families in san francisco, he has taken up a role in distributing thousands of food bags throughout the city and primarily from 701 alabama street. thank you, roberto. i appreciate you. i love you, my good brother, and most importantly i want to say that i take joy, much joy, in those calls that you make where you start the conversation with a couple of hilarious jokes that
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make it difficult to remember the rest of the conversation. [speaking spanish]. we're here at the mission food hub which i started actually out of my house back in march, and through april, and then the need just kept growing, and so i was able to work with our community partners who own the building here. a shout out to them for giving us this space. started in may on cinco de mayo and started with 500 families and the need just kept growing and growing and the lines kept growing, and so today we are now servicing 7,000 families three days out of the week. what's really cool is that we
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provide latino-culturally appropriate food for our bags. for me, it feeds my soul, my heart, my spirit, my mind that i've been able to collectively work with hundreds of volunteers to provide the most basic human need for people during this crisis, and i really believe that food needs not only your stomach but it feeds your mind and it feeds your body. for me it's been a miracle of how not one single person that i reached out to to come help have told me now, to this day, and in fact, people have told me thank you. i say, no, thank you, and it's been beautiful for me to know that there's so much amore and so much love that is within the latino community, and even outside the latino community, of
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people that from all races have contributed in one way or another to get us through this crisis. this award recognizes the miracle that has happened here in the mission and that just organically grew and now supports people in the excelsior, the valley and the bayview, and it's just, like, grown. and for me, it's a blessing, you know, to be surrounded with so many people who just care and are dedicated and committed to human life. >> our second performer is a social justice advocate who uses the power of art and spoken word to organize, educate and heal communities. she is a bilingual poet, muralist, community educator and organizer hailing from san francisco, california. her passions have taken her
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around the u.s. and the world to places like spain, france, belgium and morocco. you can also find her murals in art galleries, restaurants and various businesses throughout san francisco, oakland and valejo. please join me in welcoming her. >> i dedicate to the peacekeepers, everyone who put down the gun and picked up the pen to write, to make art, poetry and posters for rallies. this one is for you. and for anyone who fight against gun violence. i woke up at 2:31 a.m. to rounds going off. i dropped to the floor, heart beat accelerated. are you okay? i checked for survivors and i skipped myself. trauma, it's an out-of-body experience. and gunshots this friday night proved the plague of violence is a direct correlation with
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mattresses on the floor. symptomology includes surviving by any means necessary. encompass the death of children and young adults. hurry, call 911, and tell them another innocent person got shot today by pain, desperation, poverty, racism and depression. the glock is still hot from setting off three rounds, pop, pop, pop! nine left in the clip and nine millimeters never felt so big. car scrapes off, burning rubber, leaving fingerprints on concrete, evidence blood shed and regret. fast cars revving, making geometric landmarks. we call those hood scars. the coroner's office is calling someone's mama tonight to deliver heartbreak and trauma. your child was identified by the coroner. you can pick up the body once you choose a mortuary. call us back once you're ready. case number, we don't care. you can pick up the body monday
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at earliest. enemies are out for vengeance, blood for blood, eye for an eye, causing the same cycle to repeat again, same nightmare tomorrow, same time, same place. living in hostile territory creates mutations in behavior where we don't sleep near windows, we don't stack bunk beds, we don't start fights we can't win. we close every curtain and shade. we lock every window and door before bed. we say our prayers before we sleep because bullets have no name. we close our eyes to dreams and just a moment's sleep when another drive-by wakes us up again, fire on both sides means -- is dead, can i get off this roller coaster of emotion? no! i'm told bullets take no days off. so we drop the cover, palms sweating, heart racing, automatic responses to hit the pavement, so mattresses are

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