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[cheers and applause] this is "nightline." >> i feel like such a failure. >> why more working mothers are bowing out and focussing on their children. but can some simple strategies make it possible to quote, have it all. plus, meet the prison whisperer. >> this is a short corridor. >> why this man behind "the hangover" left it behind to work behind bars. and, you're fired. >> sit down. sit down. >> or perhaps more accurately, you're out of here. why our fusion colleague, jorge ramos was escorted from the room during a press conference with donald trump. but first, the "nightline" five. >> you think your car smells fine, but your passengers smell
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i get and good evening. there are few issues more searing for working mothers than balancing their children and their jobs. increasingly these days, young moms are quitting, deciding that they cannot in fact have it all. but could there be simple, common sense fixes for mothers with careers. tonight, an hour by hour analysis of one mom's day. will it help?
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here's abc's linzie janis. >> your heart sinks, like i'm the worst mom. >> reporter: they call it mommy guilt. >> i'm distracted and not focussed on the kids and foal like -- feel like such a failure. >> reporter: take a look online and you'll find moms with the same sense of inadequacy. >> i felt guilty because i couldn't be the classroom mom, because i couldn't go on every field trip. >> i've got to go to work. >> reporter: moms like alison o'kelly, who have full time jobs. >> you're going to get in trouble. do you want a time out? >> reporter: do you feel a lot of guilt? >> i do feel that guilt, especially when i'm trying to get away from my children to get some work done. >> reporter: more than 70% of moms these days are juggling work and kids, but now some are feeling a lot like alison, wishing they could focus more on their family. the harvard business school
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released a survey revealing that 37% of millennial women plan to leave work for family, compared with 28% of gen-x women. what happened to the dream of having it all? >> reporter: this author says working moms shouldn't give up just yet. >> there's a big story out there that women just can't have it all. but i found that that was not the case. that i wanted to show with this book that there are many women who are juggling work and life just fine and that it can be done. >> reporter: she says she found the secret to work life balance by analyzing hour by hour time logs from the lives of over 100 successful, high-powered working moms. >> looking at how you spend the time is often the best antidote for guilt. when we see where our time actually g then we can make better choices. i don't say i don't have time. i say it's not a priority. it reminds us that time is a choice. and we have the power to fill
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our lives with the things that we want to have there. >> reporter: to learn how to best make use of that time, we enlisted working mom alison to keep her own detailed hour by hour diary for laura to review. not even 8:00 in the morning, and alison is catching up on housework, making breakfast for her children. >> bye, guys have fun. >> reporter: at 9:00, the older boys leave for camp and the babysitter shows up to care for the little ones. that's her cue to go upstairs to the office. >> where are you going? >> upstairs. >> reporter: that was the plan, anyway. >> all right, get, all right, i got to go to work now. >> no! >> oh, come on. >> bye-bye. >> all right, say see yalater.
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>> reporter: it's clear alison's son craves her attention and looks for it throughout the day. >> where are you going? >> i was going to tell her, but i don't want to. i don't want to go. >> i know, but i need you to go because i have a lot of work to do today. >> and i don't want to go. i don't want to go. >> all right. i'll see you in a little bit. >> it's challenging, because you feel bad, and you love to let them come and hang out with you and watch tv, but i work, so i have to get my job done. i don't have a choice, but it is hard. >> reporter: in the evening after work and household chores, alison sits in front of her tv returning e-mails. >> this is like the type-a person in me that i'm sitting here. they're watching tv. everybody's happy. and, you know, i feel the stress that i could be upstairs getting
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work done. what? >> reporter: for alison, there is no line dividing work and family time. so laura calls for a split shift. >> hang out with the family, go back to work after the kids go to bed. if you knew that there was this time, 8:30 that you definitely could work for an hour then you would be able to shut it down for the three hours before then. >> why do you need to work? >> reporter: she can keep her son out of her office with the promise of her full, undivided attention at the end of the workday. >> sometimes it helps to set clear boundaries for certain times. and then, if the kids know they have your full attention, that gives them an okay to have less attention at other times. >> reporter: she also suggests getting creative in scheduling quality time. instead of doing chores in the morning, laura says that time can be put to better use. >> the kid is up at 6:00, and you leave for work at 8:00, that's two hours, but many don't consider that as potential
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family time because they're focussed on getting out the door. >> reporter: but laura admits that her tips may not be for everyone. >> these women have high-powered jobs, though. and so they can afford to hire help, right? >> yes. earning more money, having a high-powered job does make it easier, yet we often tell young women, don't go for the high-powered job, the big, demanding career because something lower key will be more family friendly. but the problem is that many of these lower-key jobs don't offer the same flexibility. and you won't have as many resources. >> reporter: alison did have some success following laura's advice. >> from 8:30 to 9:00 you're going to let me do my work, right? >> yeah. >> reporter: they're less
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demanding of her during work hours. and finally laura says set aside some "me" time. >> intentionally taking a break during the day gets you out of the office, get some fresh air, some exercise, even just a 15, 20-minute walk will do wonders for helping you work. >> i feel optimistic. i feel like i have some tools that i might be able to try to use to make things better. i'm cautiously optimistic. >> reporter: for "nightline," i'm linzie janis in philadelphia. up next here, he was a high-flying hollywood producer, the guy behind the "hangover" franchise. why he gave it all up to work in prison. and later, donald trump making headlines yet again tonight. his confrontation just hours ago
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thirst for the extraordinary. ahhh perrier! it would be really lard to imagine a career transition more dramatic than the one we're
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about to show you. this is the story about a hotshot hollywood producer who quit so he could work in perhaps the most glamour us environment available, prison. >> reporter: 26 year old sean wilson has a lot to smile about. he's the valedictorian of his class. he's one of 100 men today receiving a college diploma, but this isn't your typical college graduation. by the dawn's early light >> reporter: because these students are convicts, serving time at california's ironwood state prison. today's rite of passage is all thanks to an unlikely champion in their corner. scott budnick, a former hollywood producer best known for "the hangover" franchise. today he's a prison whisperer of sorts.
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he says he's a regular face at 20 of california's 34 prisons, where he helps to rehabilitate robbers and murderers. >> i'm interested in anybody who wants to change. >> reporter: with 2.4 million people currently behind bars, the united states holds the highest number of inmates in the world. critics say much of this is because too many people are serving excessive sentences for acts that shouldn't be criminalized, like non-violent drug offenses. >> there's some dangerous people here that belong in prison, but we also use prisons to incarcerate people that not only are we scared of, but that we're mad at. >> thank you for having me. >> reporter: scott first embarked on this action a decade ago when a colleague invited him to attend a writing class in prison. >> i walked in with a bunch of kids facing their life in prison. i was in this hollywood bubble,
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and i realized that i had lost that desire to give back, and i wanted to reclaim it and reclaim it right away. >> reporter: he did so with creative writing programs like this one. >> 50 years to life, stuck in this place. i ask myself why, and the answer is because i wanted to gang bang. >> as soon as they start to see themselves as a writer or as a poet, then they don't see themselves as a gang member or criminal. >> about 50,000 a year to keep someone in prison for seven out of ten to come back. this is why a program like this is incredibly unique and they go out and go to a university rather than go out to the street. so i believe education is the game changer. >> reporter: a game changer indeed for shaun wilson. >> i saw the wrong male role models. and i think that's kind of where everything went wrong. >> reporter: at 16 he was arrested for armed robbery and
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assault with a deadly weapon, he was sentenced to 16 years in prison. >> i'm not going to be able to do what the average kid would do at 21, 22, 23. that's over for me. so how can i make the best of what i can do when i'm in here. >> reporter: so with scott's support, shaun decided to take advantage of the program. >> when i met him, he was kind of a super gangster. and i watched zahnshaun's transformation. >> every kid who came from juvenile hall who met scott budnick made them feel that they were better than they were. >> ambitious. going to take out there and take the world by storm. >> reporter: but here at pelican bay state prison, there are no reminders of normal life. >> in no prison does a door his with air like this. >> reporter: it is here that scott works to rehabilitate some of the state's most dangerous
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and violent criminals, who are kept in isolation for 22 1/2 hours per day, inside the prison security unit. >> this is the pelican bay hand shake here. that's what you do. that's all you get. it's an intense place. you're in an environment that's a scary environment. this is a short corridor. if you see this sign right here, d-shu, some of the most powerful, heaviest inmates, they keep them here. >> reporter: is there any extreme case you won't take on? >> when i find out the commitment offense that's really, really egregious that i can't wrap my mind around, oftentimes it's a very hard core sex offense, it's something i don't know how to deal with. >> reporter: how about murder? >> i've seen people who have committed murder 20, 30 years down the line end up showing real remorse. my man. how are you, brother? >> reporter: flores is serving a life sentence.
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he's in the shu because of his alliances with prison gangs. >> i thought i should see what life's like in here. >> you're lookin' at it. >> this is my most valuable possession. my stool and my pen. >> and you use that a lot. >> all day. >> jose's probably the most interesting guy there. he's been used to people telling him he's no good his whole life, until we showed up on that day, did he make the decision to change. >> reporter: scott's visits restore hope. he's a reminder to these men that they have not been forgotten. >> it's been years since we actually interacted with you guys and people who care. >> reporter: are there people who don't deserve second chances? >> somebody who serves decades and can prove after decades that they're a changed person they should get a second chance. >> reporter: the voice we have missing is the voice of the victim's families.
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what is the responses that you've gotten? >> there's some that get to an incredible place of forgiveness that i don't think i would have ever gotten to. and there's some that rightfully stay angry for a very long time. with the youth and young adults that i work with, i don't think they will ever be whole and be able to wholly succeed if they don't come to terms with the pain they caused. >> sometimes i just want that time to myself. it's hard to get in a place like this. >> reporter: a chance to succeed is what shaun wilson is hoping for. after serving nearly a decade in prison, shaun will get out in six months. >> i want to go to school for music production. i believe i have a second chance to do something with my life instead of wasting it in here. everybody potentially needs a second chance. they need to be exposed to their own potential. >> reporter: i'm alicia melendez. up next, why jorge ramos,
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sit down. sit down. >> reporter: add a prestigious hispanic journalist to the list. trump tangling with jorge ramos from fusion, repeatedly interrupted the presidential hopeful. >> you cannot deny citizenship -- >> sit down, please. you weren't called. >> reporter: a security guard removes ramos from the room. trump defending himself. >> he started creamingscreaming, and i didn't escort him out. >> i have to go back and ask questions. that's my job. as a reporter, as an immigrant, a u.s. citizen, i have the right to ask questions of anyone. >> do you know how many latinos -- >> -- social media. >> do you know how many latinos work for me? >> this is the first time i've been escorted out of any press conference or any interview.
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