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uprising shows no taught -- no sign of slowing down. the french president has been meeting the italian premier, concern over the flow migrants from italy after the political turbulence in north africa. many of them taking advantage of the free travel arrangements between the countries. since the beginning of the uprisings, italy has struggled to cope with the influx of migrants arriving on its shores. most are coming from to misha, an estimated 24,000 since january. many of them want to travel further to france. the conflict in libya has driven some 4000 migrants to europe since the start of this year. joining me from rome is duncan kennedy. how are both sides going to resolve this?
>> i think they are going to ask brussels to step in. that is how they will diffuse the tension. this is unprecedented tensions since 1919 that -- 1995, which is when the agreement was signed that allows the free movement between borders. france and italy i am quite a spat over what to do with that these tunisian migrants. it says the rest of europe should help. most of them, being french speaking, want to go to france, but france says they do not want them the two leaders are meeting at the moment to resolve all this. it looks as though they will be sending a letter to brussels asking them to modify the agreement.
what they want is what they call exceptional cases, reintroducing border controls at various borders should the need arises. exceptional cases being the unexpected influx of migrants of the type we have seen over the last few months. whether or not brussels will agree, we simply do not know. >> this all feeds into a wider debate about immigration in general? >> very much so. that is the back door to all of this. it is not just an international issue about borders. france and italy have very sensitive domestic audiences concerning illegal immigration, which is what they say this is. in italy the coalition government is partly kept in power by what they call the northern league, running an anti-immigration.
similarly, four presidents are cozy in france, he is fighting a president's election next year and the issue of illegal immigration will feature highly. we have already had the leader of the national front coming to italy to look at the tunisian migration issue. no doubt they will be using this as part of the campaign material. since for both leaders this is highly sensitive and not just an issue about international borders, it has become a domestic issue as well. the germans also said that they do not want to see tunisian migrants crossing into germany as well. these are very delicate issues play out, leading to the tensions that they hope they can resolve by putting the ball firmly in the court of brussels, saying that you must act, you
must decide in light of what is happening with these tunisian migrants. >> let's go across to a press conference being given by the two leaders. stand by while we listened to the italian premier. >> we had a great convergence on all of the themes that be confronted. as you know, we had the chance to discuss various things. libya, the situation in the mediterranean immigration, the corporation between our two countries. i would like to say something regarding syria. we are very concerned for the
developments we are seeing in this country. we will work together to appeal to the authorities in damascus. not to do violence against peaceful demonstrations to address the unfortunate reforms they have renounced. on libya we were able to speak over the telephone regarding the transition. they thanked me for the decision. the decision we have taken to increase already important
contributions. we are already contributing maybelline and our allies are auguste, including the united states, to allow the intervention -- our intervention initiative objective. to prevent damage to the civil population. i would like to say that this development of our parts is the logical consequence of the
united nations security council as something that we should not absence are cells from because we believe that our intervention is needed. so, we took this difficult decision -- difficult because, given our past colonial past in libya, nonetheless we believe in think that at this point we had to take this decision. i'd like to say clearly that we are not talking about bombing. the italian press this morning seemed to suggest this. it certainly does not involve cluster bombing.
i am talking about extreme precision against military targets. absolutely nothing to do with intervention in civil areas or where we would find civilians. the aim is principally to protect the civil population. therefore, it would be nonsensical to intervene militarily. we have also decided to nominate two people.
so that we can look into the issue of immigration. i would also like to say here's something very clear on the relations that we have here between france and about the tunisian immigrants who are coming here. because in tunisia there is no civil war, france every year has received more than 50,000 immigrants. italy has had about 10,000. i would like to make it clear to the french president that the efforts by france has been five times that of italy. this we are very conscious of.
i say that in a clear way, without any wish to accuse france of behavior that has not happened. i would like to be very frank about that. decisions between friendly countries on treaties that already exist, we spoke about [unintelligible] and neither of us want to deny that, but under certain circumstances we think there should be variation to the treaty. we have also written a joint letter to the president boroughs in which we ask for better collaboration on the part of the southern mediterranean countries, our european
partners. i think that this is needed because we have expressly introduced this principle that the southern countries of the mediterranean should not be left alone to deal with mass immigration. there should be solidarity between european countries. we have decided to work together on our relation to the tunisian government. we must insist that the government collaborates with us. so that this immigration does not have been -- does not happen.
sarkozy is trying to communicate this. we must get people to risk a $500 to travel. we will try to do an exercise of psychological dissuasion. naturally, this led us to the economic corporation that sought our businesses, etc. i have a personal position on this. i come from an entrepreneurial background.
they can interfere and intervene when the internal security of the country is threatened. . france has recently intervened in an italian company. in italy is medium and small countries -- companies that are important. there are very numerous, more than 1800, migrants into france. if working very well with the french public. we must remember that the expectation of italy into france also happens the other way.
we must look at the market phenomenon proposed u.s. and try to create international franco- italian-french cooperation with international competition. i apologize to the president if i have touched on many themes, but of course and that he will be able to have his say. >> mr. prime minister, it is always a great honor to be in italy.
in my capacity as french president, i'd like to say that italy is in the heart of every french person. frenchmen feel closer to italy. when every single frenchman thinks about italy, they think about civilization in warfare. italy, for us, means a lot. i called the prime minister a few days ago to tell him that there are tensions between italy and france. it does not matter who is at fault. france and italy are linked by history, culture, and a standard of living where most people want
to live in france, and where we are in italy we have a strong tradition. alongside the prime minister, they have decided to hold this summit. there are problems between us. with regards to libya, we are happy and pleased with the decision to send the aircraft to take part. we need italian participation in italy.
italy cannot take part in the work of the coalition. and enough to allow them to get rid of dictatorship. you italians understand this. they have decided to provide aircraft in the service of libya. very exciting and brilliant news. we work hand in hand. i shared silvio berlusconi's situation about syria, where it is unacceptable. through the foreign minister,
there is the position of the people in the street. freedom and liberty, we can see it all. regarding immigration, the two are ministers. what we want is for them to survive. we have the euro. we have reformed the european economy. under the [unintelligible] treaty, a number of countries will claim that we should look at the security of each country together.
we want to strengthen the context. the borders between the space it are guaranteed. others blame us if another country does not know what to do in the face of this situation. [unintelligible] should be reformed. a told the prime minister that it is italy's problem as well as france, which hosted the largest number of emigrants on their soil in europe. 50,000 immigrants. so, we should share the problems within the treaty and we have statement conversions of ideas. we want to suggest to the european council that with
regards to the economy, i would like to tell my friends in italy that we are used to the economic partner. the second, and we should pay a lush -- homage to economic italian dynamism. between france and italy, the deficit in france reflects on italy. sometimes i wonder if people know the figures that we are talking about on the ground. we have to admire the small business initiatives. >> let's leave that press conference between silvio -- between silvio berlusconi and nicolas sarkozy. you were right.
they are calling for reform of the border-free travel agreement in europe for what silvio berlusconi called exceptional circumstances. >> this is obviously a compromise to get through all of this. obviously they want something done to stop something like this happening in future. a huge exercise in reduction on both men's parts, both flattering each other and calling on brussels to step in to revive this treaty that allows for the free movement of people across borders. it is a sign of the depth of tensions that they want this complete treaty revisited, allowing the country to introduce border controls when necessary.
all of the efforts, the body language that we were noticing, it was about reducing tensions back to the european union headquarters space to say -- you must deal with this. we are already doing a lot and is -- it is a wider matter for the union as a whole to deal with this. >> thank you very much. a report from the united nations suggest there are credible allegations that atrocities were committed on both sides during the civil war. the head of the u.n. [unintelligible] >> the final months of the long civil war in srilanka were brutal and unforgiving. the u.n. says that both sides
may be guilty of war crimes. after three decades of fighting, the rebel titles -- tigers were pushed into a narrow strip of land in the northeast of the country. there the army moved in, day by day, holding the siege in dreadful conditions. the un painted a barbarous picture of hospitals, centers and red cross ships being deliberately shelled, prisoner shot in the head and women raped while the rebels said, in their last desperate stand, more than 300,000 civilians were used as human shields, shooting those the tried to escape. the war ended decisively with the killing of the leader, widely convinced of the use of suicide bombers and child soldiers.
demonstrators burned a united nations symbol, which risks damaging the sensitive reconciliation. >> will it bring national unity? will it do the opposite? these are the things we want to get away from. >> the country has been celebrating the rebel the feet as a chance to rebuild the nation and are largely dismissing the report's findings. >> hundreds of thousands of people were kept. >> that is just about it at the moment. stay with us here on "bbc world news." plenty more to come.
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