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good morning. remembering a genius. former apple ceo steve jobs, the man behind the most revolutionary inventions of the digital age has died of cancer at the age of 56. from the mac to the ipod his products literally changed the way we live. we'll celebrate his life, his vision, and his impact on the world today, thursday, october vision, and his impact on the world today, thursday, october 6th, 2011. captions paid for by nbc-universal television
welcome to "today" on this thursday morning. i'm ann curry. >> i'm matt lauer. because steve jobs was a guy who touched our lives in so many ways reaction to his death has been pouring in from all around the world. overnight a makeshift memorial is now in place outside of apple's headquarters in cupertino, california following the sad death of that company's founder and visionary, steve jobs. if you look this morning at simply the apple.com on my ipad here you will see a simple tribute to jobs, a black and white photo with the dates that he was born and he died. >> because it is hard to overstate the impact that he had on all of our lives. he never graduated from college and yet who doesn't have at least an ipod or ipad or iphone or personal computer? >> i think obviously this did not come as a shock to people because we had watched his
health deteriorate over the years since he was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer. he appeared very frail in recent months. but still, when it finally happens you stop and you really take notice. >> no question. you know, he also in a commencement address to stanford university in 2005, he had something pretty wonderful to say. he said, remembering that you're going to die is the best way i know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. and he added, your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. >> as i mentioned, tributes immediately poured in as the news of his death spread. president obama released a statement saying in part, there may be no greater tribute to steve's success than the fact that much of the world learned of his passing on a device he invented. >> bill gates, jobs' one-time rival and cofounder of microsoft, had this to say. the world rarely sees someone who has had the profound impact steve has had the effects of which will be felt for many generations to come.
then there's this from facebook founder mark zuckerberg who said, thanks for showing that what you build can change the world. >> let us get right to nbc's george lewis at apple's headquarters in cupertino, california. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, matt. this is a very sad day for apple's 47,000 employees worldwide. they're mourning steve jobs, a man who dropped out of college and had no formal schooling in computer engineering but figured out a way to make tech sexy and transformed apple into the world's most valuable company. he was a college dropout who cofounded apple computer in 1976 and within a few years became fabulously wealthy. >> he is kind of a regular guy who started in his garage with this idea with a friend and built this thing into this multibillion dollar business. >> reporter: his secret? wow the consumers with cool designs and ease of use. >> when it comes to consumer computer users the computer
industry hasn't done a really good job of trying to understand them and understand their desires and their needs. >> reporter: so in 1984 he introduced the mcintosh, calling it insanely great. there was a famous super bowl ad for the mac running only once on tv but seen millions of times on youtube. apple didn't always prevail. faced with tough competition the company struggled, trying to gain a share of the personal computer market. and steve jobs had an abrasive personality that contributed to his ouster from apple in 1985. >> the brilliant, genius, visionary side of him that burned very, very bright, and there was this terrible dark side of him, too. >> he went into the movie business acquiring pixar studios in 1986, making a string of hit computer animated films starting with "toy story." >> to infinity and beyond! >> reporter: then, after an
11-year absence he was brought back to apple where his creativity revitalized the company. the ipod changed the way people listened to their music. >> today apple is going to reinvent the phone. >> reporter: and across the country there were long lines for the first iphones in 2007. then three years later they lined up for the ipad, changing the way people consumed media. >> most of the great ideas when you see them you go, of course! >> reporter: but while he was brimming with great ideas, steve jobs was battling declining health. he was operated on for pancreatic cancer in 2004. a year later he spoke about that in a commencement address at stanford university. >> this was the closest i've been to facing death, and i hope it's the closest i get for a few more decades. yet, death is the destination we all share. >> reporter: then in 2009 he underwent a liver transplant. >> i now have the liver of a mid
20s person who died in a car crash and was generous enough to donate their organs. >> reporter: on august 24th of this year jobs stepped down as apple's ceo. six years earlier, he had this bit of advice for the stanford grads. >> have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. they somehow already know what you truly want to become. >> reporter: he was a man who followed his heart and intuition to become one of silicon valley's great visionaries. steve jobs leaves behind a wife and four children. and a statement from the jobs family says steve died peacefully surrounded by people he loved. ann? >> george lewis, thank you. steve wozniak was there at the beginning cofounding apple alongside steve jobs in a silicon valley garage. good morning to you.
>> good morning. >> we'll show you that photo of the two of you. it's pretty famous now of the two of you building at the beginning the first apple computer. what do you want to say about the man you once knew? >> well, it's very difficult for me. you know, we knew he was in poor health and it was kind of like when my father died and we knew it was coming and told us so when you expect it you don't go into a lot of crying that day but just woke up with so many of these memories of the things we did together and some of them were just like normal, fun things you do with people, but looking back so many of them were so important. they were important to the world, and i was kind of like the shy, quiet guy, you know, had my skills, and steve was there wanting to change the world and wanting to take devices that could, you know, actually make a start and change people's lives and develop a company. it was a perfect marriage, if you will. >> he once said i want to put a
ding in the universe. what drove him to that, do you think, steve? >> you know, when i met him and he was quite young, still in high school, it was books that he was reading and he would always talk about the great people that moved us forward as humans -- the shakespeares, isaac newtons that the very few that had a very special brain. because he spoke of them all he wanted to be one of those people and he was always looking to somehow be involved in some kind of learning how to lead the world role. >> you're saying from the very beginning he was a visionary. at the same time, he was a very private person. what would you say about him personally, his character? what was he like to be around? >> well, there's very early days and there were early apple days. there are different time frames. we started out as young kids who would go around and even do a little bit of misbehavior together. these are things that you remember forever. and developing your values and talking about what's important in the world, how should people
live, how should they treat each other? how do -- how should companies be structured was even one of those topics and you formulate your ideas of where the world is going and as apple really got start wed our great product apple ii that was going to change the world that's where steve's role was to learn and be involved in every single department of a company. learn how to run an organization. he just started having ideas. whenever we had meetings, it just bothers me so much. you see all the great products we have today and everybody recognizes steve for that and even i do. he's got such incredible credibility. when he speaks it's like, this is the way that is right in the world. in the earliest days of apple it was the same thing. we'd have different ideas of how to develop a product, how to market it, what a path should be like and steve would come up with ideas that were always better than anyone else's. >> at the same time we understand he was very exacting. he had a kind of perfectionist streak. what can you tell us about that?
>> he didn't really have that streak when we were young and starting apple. it's kind of like he developed it as he was more and more in a position to think and realize what worked before and what didn't. very often when he found things that worked it became a stick very close to it for your entire life, certain principles, and his core principles turned out to be very good. as far as all of the little details, i do not know how he ever functioned and kept that much in his head. don't know that myself. steve stayed in the game. he stayed in the game and he kept driving it and he stayed at the forefront and really is the person who has set most of the direction for the world more than anyone in existence. and it's very difficult to imagine, you know, that huge a loss. it's, you know, to me it was like i just felt dumb struck. i almost couldn't talk at first because it was like you told me that john lennon got killed. >> i understand you last saw him
according to "the washington post" some three months ago after he had emerged from a medical leave. how do you think, though, even though you didn't want to pry, facing death defined how he lived his life in those final years? >> well, he actually lived his life, his personal life very privately. and i think that's -- it's very admiral for his family to have been, you know, shielded in a sense. i think it gave him a lot of flexibility. it's funny because the way apple developed these great products also involved a lot of secrecy, you know? gives you a lot of the ability to think these out and do them your way. i know that when he spoke to me he was such a good father and cared so much about his kids and his relationship and communication with them. >> i want to ask you about something that president obama said. he said, quote, there may be no greater tribute to steve's success than the fact that much of the world learned of his passing on a device he invented.
do you think steve jobs might smile at that, steve wozniak? >> i think very much. as a businessman he doesn't smile as greatly as he did when we were young but i think that one would tickle his fancy. >> all right. steve wozniak, thank you so much. now with more, here's matt. >> all right, ann. thank you very much. after learning of the death of steve jobs "time" magazine literally stopped the presses for the first time in 20 years to redo its latest issue. here is a first look at the cover that will be on the news stands tomorrow. we're joined now by "time's" managing editor and nbc's tom brokaw. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> picture of jobs, 1984 with an early mac. what's the headline in the article? >> "american icon" and the lead article by walter isaacson a former managing editor of "time" who is writing the great biography of steve jobs with steve's cooperation and did a summing up of what steve represented, represented for society, technology, and how he
transformed everything. >> is it appropriate, tom, to say a sentence like there will be the henry fords, the thomas edisons and the steve jobs of the world? does he fit in that group? >> indisputably. 400 or 500 years from now, maybe even longer, they'll look back and steve jobs will be one of the defining figures of the technology that has absolutely transformed the world. it's created another universe we could not have anticipated. >> i was thinking of an experiment here. you're sitting with a crowd in our plaza behind us, and if we were to say and they can hear us right now, raise your hand if you have an ipod, ipad, iphone, i mean, look at this. that's impact in a very real sense, rick. >> you know, it's interesting. he was not an inventor in a traditional sense. he didn't create noigt anythingf nothing that hadn't existed before. he found things people were doing and made them better. he had a passion for improving things so it seemed they were transformed. >> as a matter of fact, he commented about that. he said he liked to exist at the
intersection of art and technology. he loved the cool factor. tom, he said, what would it be like if everybody in the world drove a beige car? what fun would that be? >> well, we got the first mac in 1984, in our household. our children were in junior high and grade school at that time. the second night we had it, i went down to my office and woke up and there was a kid from the building who had come up the back stairs to play on the mac and we just had a steady stream of them. about two days later the new ceo of ibm came to have an editorial board meeting with us here and i said, what about the mac? not going to last. >> he was a perfectionist. he would look at a prototype and throw it out and demand another one until he was completely satisfied with the product. >> he was a perfectionist. the modern notion was form follows function but for steve form became function. form defined everything. he was obsessed with every little detail. actually remember a few months ago when he came originally to show us the ipad, and i mentioned that i'd been to the store on the upper west side and he went into a whole different
discussion saying, you know, i got that marble from perugia and it was from the northwest corner. i wanted a particular kind of marble. he talked about it for 15 minutes. he was an incredible perfectionist. >> let me read you something from the seattle times today. it says the greatest lesson from jobs' career is to keep the doors open for people like him. the world needs to have opportunities for an adopted child raised by a working-class family. it needs to have second chances for people who drop out of college. it needs not cast out someone who would take lsd and travel to india and become a buddhist. jobs was and did all of these things and he helped create the 21st century. >> you know, i think he was a terrific spiritual leader of our time. he was a kind of dalai lama of personal computers. if i can read one more line from that famous stanford commencement address, your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. don't be trapped by dogma which is living with the results of other people's thinking. don't let the noise of others'
opinions drown out your own inner voice. that alone is a legacy of steve jobs especially at this time. >> he said he wanted to put a ding in the universe. do we even have any idea yet, rick, how big a ding he put in the universe? >> the notion that einstein and others have said is that the universe ultimately is simple, that was steve's philosophy. simplicity was the beauty that he was always striving for and that's why he was a perfectionist. you probably can never reach it but it's a great aspiration. >> you know, matt, when i was a kid i was a jukebox nut. this is my jukebox at my age. thank you, steve jobs. >> tom brokaw, rick stengel and, again, a special edition of "time" magazine hitting the stands tomorrow featuring the cover of steve jobs. we'll have much more on his legacy later but now let's check the morning's top stories. savannah guthrie is in for natalie at the news desk. good morning. former alaska governor sarah palin will not be making a run for the white house. nbc's andrea mitchell has the latest now from washington.
andrea, good morning. >> good morning, savannah. now it is official, sarah palin is not running. she ended more than two years of speculation that she would ride the tea party wave into a presidential campaign by going on television and posting a video on youtube. >> you don't need an office or a title to make a difference. >> reporter: appearing on fox where she works as a commentator and in a letter to her followers, palin said she can be more effective trying to elect others. >> i know that it's the right decision, and i know that i can join others and be effective in helping change what's going on in our country. >> reporter: earlier she told conservative radio host mark levin she is also ruling out a third-party run. >> i would assume that a third party would just guarantee obama's re-election. >> reporter: the palin frenzy may have peaked with her memorial day bus tour. billed as just a family vacation but with all of the trappings of a presidential campaign. >> americans are ready for true change.
>> reporter: then she stole the thunder of the declared candidates by sweeping through the iowa state fair during the ames straw poll in august. >> i'm very happy to get to be here. >> reporter: but time and inclination were running out. michele bachmann won the straw poll handily. >> you've done it, iowa. thank you! >> i declare to you today -- >> reporter: and that weekend rick perry, another tea party favorite and palin ally, announced he was running. there were practical considerations -- a filing deadline just three weeks from now for the florida primary, a lucrative contract with fox that would be canceled if she ran, and the constraints of becoming a candidate. >> i apologize to those whom are disappointed in this decision but i believe that they, when they take a step back, will understand why the decision was made. >> palin's announcement following of course chris christie's decision this week means that the republican field is most likely set that the nominee will be one of the current front runners and right now that race seems to be coming
down to mitt romney and rick perry. >> all right. andrea mitchell in washington. thank you, andrea. a plan hunt is under way for 47-year-old sharif ullman the suspected gunman in a california quarry that killed three people and wounded six others. local police say he became upset during a safety meeting at the quarry and then allegedly opened fire on his co-workers. authorities say he then shot another woman in an attempted carjacking as he escaped and he remains at large today. now to wall street. cnbc's mandy drury is at the new york stock exchange for us this morning. good morning. >> good morning, savannah. we're all wondering whether or not this rally can continue for a third day and of course europe has a lot to do with whether or not that will happen. there is one stop we are definitely watching and that is apple. many of us use and love apple products and even though the death of steve jobs was not wholly unexpected there was an initial knee jerk drop to the down side in german trade.
obviously jobs was primarily responsible for apple's market value going from just $5 billion back in 2000 to $350 billion at its current market value. we'll just have to watch where the stock goes from here. back to you. >> all right. mandy, thank you. don't call her the dancing queen because she's the dancing duchess. the 85-year-old spanish duchess cut a rug at her wedding celebrating her marriage to a civil servant 25 years her junior. her choice of a commoner for a third marriage outraged her children and spain's royal family, but the duchess shook them all off with her love-struck flamenco. i have to redo this woman's full name. maria francisco e de silva. it really rolls off the tongue. >> whatever the name is if i were marrying a guy 25 years my junior i'd be dancing like that, too. >> he doesn't seem that thrilled actually but that's okay.
mr. roker? >> yes. out west we have a big mess east and a big low pressure system, frontal system bringing rain and snow and strengthening upper level low, and wind warnings a real mess out there, and snowfall amounts any from four to eight inches of snow in the sierra, and heavier rains up through the northern plains. that's what is going on around the country, and here is what is happening in your neck of the woods. >> we are just fine here. weather almost perfect for fall. we are starting out on the cool side with 52 degrees, with a light north wind. today more of a northeasterly winds, so may have a few high clouds coming our way. and break out the sunglasses. it will be mild as we see a high temperature around 70 degrees today. we will be seeing temperatures rise over the next couple days. 73 for and that's your latest weather.
ann? thanks. as we noticed steve jobs revolutionized nearly every corner of our lives. we knew his products, and in many ways he was an enigma. but during a commencement speech at stanford in 2005 jobs got very personal. >> your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life. don't be trapped by dogma, which is living with the results of other people's thinking. don't let the noise of others' opinions drown out your own inner voice. most important, have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. they somehow already know what you truly want to become. everything else is secondary. >> so he also leaves us with some wisdom. we're back in a moment. but first, this is "today" on nbc.
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7:30 now on a thursday morning. it's the sixth day of october, 2011. it's a beautiful view from the top of the rock here in midtown manhattan on a chilly but clear morning in new york city. got a great crowd down in the plaza. we're going to get outside and say hi to them actually in just a couple minutes. meanwhile inside the studio i'm matt lauer with ann curry and just ahead the latest on the search for 10-month-old lisa irwin who was allegedly abducted from her own crib in the middle of the night, her parents obviously desperate to find her. they'll speak out in a live interview coming up straight
ahead. plus, we have new details from the trial of michael jackson's doctor, matt. in court on wednesday prosecutors played the entire recording that conrad murray made of the singer just six weeks before his death. jackson's former manager said what he heard broke his heart. actually i think it broke a lot of people's hearts. we'll have the latest on this, coming up live from los angeles. something i hadn't heard about but we'll ask the question why are shark sightings on the rise in fresh water rivers? coming up, we'll hear from a 16-year-old boy about his unexpected encounter with a huge, 368-pound bull shark. we said fresh water. >> i know. pretty shocking. we begin this half hour with the mysterious disappearance of 10-month-old lisa irwin. we'll talk to her parents in just a moment, but first nbc's peter alexander is in kansas city, missouri with the details. peter, good morning. >> reporter: ann, good morning to you. the mystery just keeps deepening here in kansas city, missouri. nbc news has learned that when jeremy irwin, lisa irwin's father, returned home monday night/tuesday morning he found
not just his daughter missing from her crib, he also found three cell phones were missing from the family's home. last night investigators scanned the area. they canvassed it, stopping every car that came through here looking for any evidence of their missing daughter. at the same time, jeremy irwin met with federal authorities providing the names of nine individuals that the family thought may have had something to do with their daughter's abduction. so far, no suspects and no strong leads. as investigators re-examined the irwin family home, a tearful public plea for the distraught parents of 10-month-old baby lisa. >> no questions asked. we just want her back home. >> we just want our baby back. please. bring her home. >> reporter: deborah bradley and jeremy irwin, mom holding her daughter's favorite stuffed animal, begged whoever has lisa to return her safely. >> just drop her off anywhere. we don't care. just somewhere safe where she can come home, please.
>> reporter: they shared with us these photos of lisa, taken within the last few weeks. lisa's parents told police she was last seen sleeping in her crib late monday, but when her dad got home from an overnight shift at 4:00 tuesday morning, lisa was gone. >> the only thing we know absolutely is that there should have been a 10-month-old in that house and there isn't and we're doing everything we can to find that child. >> reporter: with the irwin family's consent investigators in sterile suits to avoid contaminating the scene again searched the home. one focal point -- this window without a screen. law enforcement officials appear baffled at who could have climbed into the home, walked down the hall, snatched the baby, and then slipped out. late wednesday i spoke to jeremy irwin's parents, baby lisa's grandparents. >> she's a beautiful baby. she's full of life, laughter, and love. >> reporter: then i asked a difficult question that haunts every missing child case. is there any way in the world that your son or your
daughter-in-law could have had anything to do with this? >> absolutely not. they're kind, loving, wonderful parents. and that baby is everything to them. >> reporter: at times wednesday detectives were seen carrying away bags of potential evidence. outside the home police dogs hunted for clues. >> the longer the time goes without getting a conclusion, the more difficult it becomes, but that doesn't mean that we're letting up. >> reporter: for lisa's parents, every minute without their baby daughter brings more anguish. >> just ask you to keep her in your thoughts and prayers and bring her home. >> reporter: police say they are not ruling anything out, that everything is still on the table. the family is also now receiving support from the national center for missing and exploited children who say, listen to this stat, since 1986 there have been 278 stranger abductions of infants. in all but 12 cases those infants were returned home safely.
ann? >> all right. peter alexander, thank you so much for that. clearly, this is a terribly emotional time for lisa's parents. deborah bradley and jeremy irwin are now joining us. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> we're all so sorry to hear all of this. you just heard peter report there are no suspects and no strong leads. what are police telling you about where your baby girl is? >> nothing. nothing at all. they say they have some tips from the tips hotline. they're looking and doing everything they can, but nothing. >> have they told you what those tips might be, jeremy? >> they haven't given us any information. they're too busy following up leads and working on things so we don't know a whole lot. just hoping that we get her back
soon. >> have they been questioning you about who you may know, who from your past, if there is anyone in your wider circle, your community who would want to take your little girl? have they been asking you those questions? >> yes. >> yes. >> they've been asking us nonstop. we've been trying to think of anything we can that would help. so far not a whole lot. >> and i know the detectives have been at your home and they've taken away bags of what i understand are considered evidence. do you know what they're looking for, what they took from your home? >> no. we don't have any idea. >> you know, you heard in this story that we just ran that in addition to the pain of missing your daughter, you're also being asked by police some tough questions because in their effort they sort of need to leave no stone unturned, so what do you have to say about their
effort to even question you about whether you know something about your daughter's disappearance? jeremy, do you want to take that question? >> we were down at the police station for most of the day the other day and just going over everything and making sure that we've got all the information that we have and giving them everything we can time and time again, so hopefully something can bring her home. >> do you want to say anything about this question that they're asking even you about whether you had anything to do with your daughter's disappearance? >> no, obviously we don't know where she is or who took her. we just need her back. >> to that end, deborah, let me ask you about that. what would you like to say to
whoever may have your daughter if that person is watching today? >> we're a close family. my boys miss her. me and her father miss her. everybody loves her. we have a good family, and she needs to be with us. please, please bring her home. drop her off anywhere safe -- a fire department, a church, a police station. just bring her somewhere safe. no questions asked. and we just want our daughter back. we'll do anything to get her. >> she is a beautiful girl. we all hope you get her back and we want to tell people if they want to help they should call the kansas city police department in kansas city, missouri. thank you so much. our best to you. >> thank you. now let's make a pretty hard turn and get a check of the weather from al. >> thanks so much, ann.
we are lookiann. we're looking at a big change coming up for much of the south. we have an upper level low developing. high pressure over the east brings on a onshore flow, and we are looking at a lot of rain over the next five days, up to eight inches of rain or more along the florida coast, and through texas on into the central plains, anywhere from three to six inches of rain before it's over, and that's in the next five days. meantime we have a risk of strong storms through the plains, and sunny skies in the half eastern part of the country, and then plenty of sunshine. that's what is going on around the country and here's what is happening in your neck of the woods. >> right now we have more feel-good weather, if only the traffic would cooperate. we have bright skies across the areas, and as far as the temperature goes we are at 52 degrees right now going up to a high that will be around 70 for the afternoon. it will be nice and mild right near average for this time of
year. meanwhile, next couple of days we will see a warmup, and a pretty big warmup at that. upper 70s for saturday and that's your latest weather, matt. thanks very much. now to amanda knox and her new life back home in seattle. what does the future hold? will she write a book? will there be a movie deal? nbc's stephanie gosk has the latest on this. good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, matt. one of the concerns when amanda knox came home is she might not know exactly how famous she has become over the last four years, but after a day and a half she is starting to get it. the family lawyer says she is fully aware of all of the media requests that have been coming in that for the moment are not dying down. interest in the young woman with the incredible story to tell has reached fevered pitch. >> they are reminding me to speak in english. >> reporter: the brief moment amanda knox spoke only piquing interest.
>> i would really ask a big favor of all of you, and that is to give this family some time. >> reporter: there has been a steady stream of calls for interviews, book deals, and movie rights, but here in seattle there are signs of growing sensitivity to the knox family. a group of local tv stations has decided to back off. a letter to the family reads, all these stations are pulling out of amanda's west seattle neighborhood -- that includes all of the knox family homes -- to allow the family the peace they have asked for. david marriott has handled public relations for the family since knox was arrested four years ago. >> the conversations about what happens next and what kind of story she wants to tell will probably occur in a couple three weeks but for now we're trying to give her some breathing room. >> reporter: he says it may be two to three months before knox sits down to publicly tell her story. the 24-year-old has spent four years in an italian jail for a murder conviction the court has now overturned. finally home, she is focused on her recovery. >> prison is a profoundly
traumatic experience for anybody, and for people who have been exonerated in a way it's even more traumatic because they've suffered for no good reason. >> reporter: and for amanda knox it is even harder. international notoriety has practically forced her into hiding. >> the questions i got today, what did she eat last night? what is she going to eat for breakfast in the morning? there is this very high level of interest. i think that will go down over time. but i would say it's not going to happen fully until she probably does tell her story. >> reporter: but for now, while knox gets reacquainted with freedom and spends time with her family, the story will have to wait. the family lawyer told us yesterday that actually she spent very little time talking about herself that first night at that party for family and friends. that a lot of it was her just asking questions to the people that she hasn't seen or talked to in such a long period of time. she also shared just one story about prison. she said that on the way out in
italian jail prisoners snap their tooth brushes as they're leaving as a kind of good luck charm to the people that are still inside and that she actually did on her way out, matt. >> stephanie gosk out in seattle this morning. stephanie, thank you very much. up next, imagine this. you're fishing in a fresh water river and you pull that out. we'll hear from the 16-year-old georgia boy who caught a 360-pound bull shark in his local swimming hole right after this. capital one's new cash rewards card
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get the picture. here's the thing. this is fresh water. it's not sea water, not salt water. this is a very popular place for the local kids to come fish and swim but it is also the spot where two bull sharks recently paid a visit. in the movie "jaws" -- >> we're going to need a bigger boat. >> reporter: -- the hunt for a killer shark took place in the open ocean. for this man it was basically in his back yard. just a few weeks ago the 16-year-old was hanging out at this fishing dock in his hometown of valona, georgia. raised in a shrimping family he is no stranger to the water or its creatures. shark sightings are common on a shrimp boat like this and headed out to sea. he says it is rare for them to be spotted close to land. you never see sharks this close to the dock. >> no you shouldn't see sharks
this close to the deck. >> reporter: then he saw something in the shallow pool. >> two sharks, not one, two. >> reporter: they were man eating bull sharks responsible for more deadly shark attacks than any other breed. fast, aggressive, and they can swim in fresh water. he quickly fetched a shark hook, some bait, and threw it in. >> it basically just came up, hit it, and locked on and started carrying it up the river. he kind of slowed down. we started snapping. >> reporter: with help from another man the two pulled the ropes with their bare hands, dragging the bull shark to the dock. >> i figured it would have been a hundred-pound shark. when it came out a 300-pound shark, it -- it was a doozie is all i can say. >> reporter: the bull shark weighed 368 pounds, measuring nearly 8.5 feet long. >> the shark was 8'5". imagine eight foot in that water right there. >> reporter: that's about four feet of water. >> about four feet of water.
>> reporter: the bull sharks are believed to be following shrimp boats which sometimes throw unwanted fish overboard up rivers from the gulf of mexico. no fresh water attacks on humans have been reported so far. >> bull sharks are a big animal, very aggressive feeder. no doubt if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time a tragedy like that could occur absolutely. >> reporter: fishermen have recently encountered bull sharks on the potomac river in maryland and near sea island, georgia. back in valona they're looking at this dock differently. >> there are little kids that learn how to swim with a life jacket right in here. >> reporter: right where you caught the shark. >> right where i caught the shark. >> reporter: the sight of a flesh eating shark would scare off most but for this high school junior and his mom -- >> yeah that's my boy. >> reporter: it was the catch of a lifetime. so he caught one of the two bull sharks. the other one, which he says was much bigger, got away. no one around here knows for sure if that shark is still around in these fresh waters. as for the shark he did catch, he says he gave it to a guy he knew and he's going to keep the
jaws. that's what any 16-year-old would do, i guess, ann. >> five words. get out of the water. thank you so much this morning. on a serious topic just ahead, michael jackson in his own words at the trial of his doctor. what the singer said about the pain he was feeling just weeks before his death. but first these messages. [ male announcer ] when it comes to saving energy, we're off to a good start. but now it's time to go to the next level. so let's do a little detective work. pick up what we need. roll out... caulk...and install. and pretty soon, we're seeing the fruits of our labor right there at our bottom line. more saving. more doing. that's the power of the home depot. owens corning ecotouch attic insulation is only $9.97 a roll.
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i am joe krebs. we have a beautiful day out there and let's get to veronica johnson for a look at our forecast. >> indeed our weather today stellar, about as perfect as it was yesterday. we are starting out cooler than yesterday, at 53 degrees currently here close to the 8:00 hour. we will see a high temperature today of 70 degrees. really nice for a fall around here. and then tomorrow going up to 73, and 78 for saturday and still looking at sunshine not just for saturday but 83 degrees just for saturday but 83 degrees on sunday, and then columbus day
8:00 now on a thursday morning, the 6th day of october, 2011. boy, is there a fall chill in the air. some cheering as people say hi to their friends and family back home. we decided to step outside to say hi to all of them. i'm ann curry along with matt lauer and al roker. coming up a serious topic. we'll be hearing more about this tape of michael jackson played in its entirety in the courtroom. >> we heard a portion of this tape on the first day of the trial of conrad murray. this is the one that he recorded of the singer a couple weeks before his death. his words sounding slurred.
he sounds somewhat incoherent. now the full tape has been played in court. we'll have much more on that coming up in just a couple minutes. >> then on a much different note, do you want your children to have a marriage like you have? do you and your spouse fight fair? have you ever considered secretly getting a divorce? you might be surprised at some of the answers we've gotten from our survey on marriage. >> okay. that's a tough topic. >> you a fair fighter? >> you know what? i think i am. why are you looking so surprised? >> no, i think a lot of people aren't. >> because we think it might be like a -- >> really? let's get down and do that but before we do that let's talk about something else which is something else i think that might even be more controversial. a lot of people may be thinking that it's okay to dig up dirt on their co-workers or on their friends. and we're going to get today's professionals to get down with that, coming up this morning. >> all right. a lot to get to. let's go inside. savannah guthrie is in at the news desk while natalie is on assignment. good morning. this morning the passing of
steve jobs is being mourned by millions of people who never knew him personally -- his customers. nbc's george lewis is at apple headquarters in cupertino, california this morning. george, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, savannah. visitors to apple's website will see this, a simple tribute to steve jobs, a man who valued simplicity in the design of his products. it was the classic silicon valley start up story. jobs and his high school buddy steve wozniak building their first apple computers in a garage, the company going on to employ more than 47,000 people worldwide. in addition to computers, jobs was present at the cree afgs at the first ipod in 2001, iphone in 2007, the ipad in 2010 the company changing the way people consume media, changing the way people talk on the telephone, fundamentally altering the landscape of technology worldwide. steve jobs had been battling ill
health for sometime. he was diagnosed with pancreatic cancer in 2004, underwent a liver transplant in 2009, stepped down as ceo of apple six weeks ago because of his failing health. savannah? >> george lewis outside apple headquarters. george, thank you. democratic state lawmakers in new york are demanding an investigation into the nypd's alleged efforts to spy on muslims. the associated press is reporting that police secretly monitored certain mosques and prominent muslims sometimes without any accusations of wrongdoing. one muslim leader was targeted even though he spoke out against terrorism, cooperated with police, and had dined with mayor michael bloomberg. the nation's largest retail trade group is expecting holiday sales to increase 2.8% this year. although that is relatively modest, it would continue a retail recovery that started last year. now here is brian williams with what's coming up tonight on "nbc nightly news." good morning. coming up tonight on "nightly news" we're marking the
occasion. this nation has been at war for ten years. we're going to introduce you to a mother/grandmother on the front lines in afghanistan. that's tonight on "nightly news." back to you. thank you. now for a look at what is trending. a quick roundup of what has you talking online. a memorial to steve jobs is being constructed in real time using the very devices he invented, the iphone, ipad, and mac book computers. in fact, the term i-sad was a trend on twitter overnight. bill gates tweeted, for those of us lucky enough to work with steve it's been an insanely great honor. the apple home page posted this tribute. check out this viral video on youtube. the first flower girl tosses flower petals as she walks down the aisle but then her little partner apparently having heard the old cleanup song one or two times picks up each and every one right after her.
who needs a lucky rabbit foot when you have squirrel power? a squirrel ran across home plate last night during game four of the national league division series in st. louis. his home run did not count, but the cardinals beat the phillies, 5-3, forcing a fifth and deciding game. it's now 8:05. back to al with a check of the weather. thanks a lot. squirrel! anyway, wow. we got american pharmacist month here so you got some medical folks here. and over here it's physicians assistant week. assistants here, pharmacists here. unbelievable. let's check your weather and see what's going on. i'm getting dizzy. i need me a pharmacist. sunny, mild, 75 degrees. we're looking at some chilly conditions in new engl looking conditions. new england in the 40s and 50s today, and 50s and 40s out through the plains and into the rockies, and 80s in the midsection of the country down
in mid-texas. we are looking at windy conditions in the plains, and the wasatch, showers, and look for a beautiful day as far east as boston. that's what is going on around the country and here is what is happening in your neck of the woods. >> hey, it's beautiful here, too. we have some of the best weather around, some of the best weather we have seen in a long time. 53. we are getting off with a little bit of a cool start. by the afternoon, and in fact, by midday, we will be at a temperature of 65 degrees, and then max out at 70 degrees today. and then friday, right now, 73 for a high temperature, and the weekend will be close to 80 and that's your latest weather. ann? >> al, thanks. coming up next, michael jackson in his own words on his troubled childhood, the pain he felt. we'll hear more from the recording made just weeks before
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morning about the impact of steve jobs on this world and his innovation of the iphone has actually had a big impact on the trial of dr. conrad murray. you see there was an app on the iphone called i talk and it basically turns the iphone into a digital voice recorder. prosecutors say for some reason dr. conrad murray taped michael jackson on the iphone just weeks before his death. michael sounds drugged up. his voice is very deep. he's barely making any sense, and he opens up about his childhood. ♪ had you to myself >> reporter: the protege was in pain, singing with the jackson 5, and decades later -- ♪ what about sunrise what about rain ♪ >> reporter: -- a confession from michael jackson, the man, recorded at his bed side by dr. conrad murray. >> i didn't have a childhood. i had no childhood. heal the world. we are the world. will you be there?
the lost children. in the songs i've written because, you know? i hurt. i hurt. >> reporter: michael's voice from the grave played for the jury as dr. conrad murray listened on. the mumbled ramblings, prosecutors say, of a sedated pop star just six weeks before his death. michael seemed focused. >> when that door opens, you start that piano. >> reporter: on his upcoming tour. beauty didn't do it. we have to be phenomenal. >> reporter: and he kept talking about raising money for sick children. >> they're sick because they're depressed. i care about them, them angels.
god wants me to do it. i'm going to do it, conrad. >> i knew you would. >> it was extremely heart breaking. michael jackson loved life. he was vibrant. and just to reflect on the michael jackson whom i knew, and the one that was reduced to that tape, it was extremely heart breaking for me. >> reporter: in court wednesday prosecutors showed still photos of drugs in michael's bedroom, including this empty bottle of propofol under his night stand. >> this was recovered from the floor? >> yes. >> reporter: then the prosecutor got theatrical, laying out bottle after bottle on a courtroom table, trying to convince the jury dr. murray didn't know when to stop, creating a mini pharmacy in michael's mansion. >> a trial about medication and
prescription is normally very, very boring and dry stuff. the prosecution was brilliant in piling that on the desks and playing a tape all in one day in order to create a memorable scene for the jury. >> reporter: and it is the garbled voice of michael jackson, his final words on the tape, that may haunt the jury. >> you okay? >> i am asleep. >> reporter: it is chilling to hear that tape. by the way, there is another audiotape out there that could make some news this week. dr. conrad murray in his own words. now prosecutors plan to play his police interrogation for the jury sometime this week and use his own words against him. >> all right. jeff rossen in los angeles, thank you very much. savannah is back now in her role as "today's" legal correspondent. star jones is a former prosecutor and legal commentator. ladies, good morning to you. take the hats off that you normally wear.
become jurors right now. you're sitting in that jury box listening to that audiotape. you heard a snippet of it on opening day. now you've heard the whole thing. the sound of his voice, the slurred words, incoherent. what impact does it have? >> i think my takeaway as a juror would be this is an incredibly tragic and sympathetic figure. i feel sorry for michael jackson when i hear this tape. >> absolutely. >> then you have to think about who in that scenario was in a position of power? it's dr. conrad murray. he was supposed to be taking care of this person. jackson comes across as a victim. to buy the defense theory that jackson actually was a sneaky drug addict who while lying in bed as soon as murray was out of the room dosed himself with lorazepam and propofol, when you hear that tape you think, could that guy have pulled that off? >> do you feel the same thing, star? >> i felt sad when i heard him start to talk about his childhood. it actually made sense to me why his mother may have taken this week to be away from the trial so that she wouldn't have to hear her dead son talk about how tragic his childhood was and how
much he hurt. i think a juror is going to be sitting there thinking to themselves, why would you continue to give this obviously in pain man drugs? >> i think it might even be worse than that. why wouldn't you at this moment rush this guy to a hospital? why wouldn't you get him in rehab? you can't wean somebody off drugs that intense. >> instead prosecutors are saying two days later he is stockpiling more of this propofol, this powerful drug that ultimately caused his death. >> so does the defense have to put forward, star or savannah, a concrete reason as to why conrad murray recorded this conversation? >> i think so. to me it's the elephant in the room. from the moment i heard that tape in opening statements i immediately thought, why is this doctor recording this in this setting on a sunday morning? what possible innocent explanation might there be? >> a trial lawyer told me one time that words are powerful but an image is even more powerful. what about that image of those medicine bottles and those i.v. bags laid out on that table? >> we're taught to do that in a courtroom throughout, you know,
being a prosecutor. when you can show a jury whatkif how much drugs, the type of drugs, the variety of drugs, there is no better impact on a jury's psyche. >> a powerful image especially when contrasted with the defense theory that conrad murray was actually trying to wean off michael jackson from drugs. they'll argue that. the jurors will remember that picture. >> savannah guthrie and star jones, ladies good to see you as always. up next, does your relationship need a boost? couples reveal their secrets to a strong and sexy marriage right after this. is a big deal... thanks... so i'm glad it's with fidelity. they offer me one-on-one guidance to help me choose my investments. not just with my savings plan here at work. they help me with all of my financial goals. looking good, irene. thanks to fidelity, i can stay on top of my financial future, huh? good one. why, thank you. whether it's saving for retirement, college, or anything else, contact a fidelity investment professional today.
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why do some marriages thrive and others fail? what are some of the secrets to long-term success? we spoke to two couples who say that they figured out how to live, love, and sometimes even fight happily ever after. >> we've been married for seven years. not only are we married, but we're partners in business and we're parents together as well, so every day all day long we sit across from each other and run a business. >> all day long. do you have any appointments you're going on? >> i don't have any appointments today. >> we're fiercely loyal. there's never been a doubt since the day i started dating her that i was her guy and she was going to be with me forever. >> we laugh a lot in this house. when we're fighting, we always end the fight somehow or another because he makes a joke or i make a joke. >> if we're driving in a car and we're not talking to each other
i'll roll down the windows, turn on the hazards. i'm like, don't look at this car. she's in a bad mood. and she starts laughing and, you know, we get through it. >> humor isn't the answer to everything and there are certainly times where he's made a joke and i'm really mad and it's not funny at all. i do think that it's talking about it, getting it out and laying it on the table. >> tom and i have been married 27 years. i think we've recognized over the years that respect, respect, respect is the key element of a marriage. >> we have a very interesting and rich life with three beautiful children. >> we're very comfortable in our own skins, and i think that's important in marriage. you don't want to lose your own identity. forget about all your friends and family and contacts and everything as well. >> a lot of things that caused conflict was the stress of work and family and whey found out over time is it's not important to be right. maybe admitting that you might not be right or you might not need to be right is not the point.
>> i am very impressed about what my husband just said, and i think he got it right. sometimes if we had a little spat i may come back and tom has left me a little sorry note or a little apology. >> we've been able to work through the lows and enjoy the highs and things are actually even getting better as time continues. >> our guest is the author of a new book called "the secret lives of wives, women share what it really takes to stay married." r.j. allen as relationship therapist. good morning to both of you. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> so, you guys, at today.com we did a survey about marriage. it's not scientific, but 28,000 viewers responded. here are some of the findings. to the question, would you want your children to have a marriage like yours, one-fourth of those we surveyed said no. and to the question, have you considered divorce? if you total these numbers, 49% say that they have thought about it. iris, do you think this number is low? >> i would say i interviewed 200
wives who have been married 15 to 70 years, and about 70% of those wives have considered leaving their spouses at least once a month if not once every six months. now, there is a big difference between thinking about divorce and really showing up at a divorce lawyer's office. >> let me interrupt and ask you. isn't in some ways kind of healthy, or is it not? >> actually, i think it is, because then you can identify there are some things you need to work on, identify them as growth areas and say, okay. if i'm thinking about this, what i don't want is this to become a reality. >> so brings some clarity in your life. >> exactly. now we can have the courageous conversation and start talking about what are the things we need to improve? the goal is endurance. we're in it to win it not check out. >> right. just to spin out of that, i'm hearing a lot from women who say "thank you, i thought i was alone." what we're doing and what i tried to do with this book is unleash women to know there is
no gold standard marriage toward which they can aspire. there is no happily ever after all the time. >> oh, dear. okay. that's a hard reality, but there you go. part of the way we figure out whether we're happy and what affects whether or not we're happy is what our priorities are. 51% in our survey said their priorities are their spouse and marriage and 38% said that the second highest number was their children. which one is right? >> most people are going to focus on their relationship but, yeah. there is going to be the focus on the children. you want to make sure that you remember you've been a couple sometimes before you've become a parent so you don't want to leave the date night to the back side of the relationship or not focus on that. at the end of the day you've got to have these conversations. you've got to keep them going so that you can have communication, commitment, and compromise. the extent to which your relationship is healthy is not predicated so much on how people do when things are good and when times are up. it's when things are bad or times are down people lose their
jobs or there is grief or someone dies. then can you stick in it and can that draw you together versus moving to a place where you're blaming each other. >> which brings up learning to fight well. thank you so much. we've got much more. the book of course is called m. the book, of course, is called the secret lies of wives. we're back after this. good morning. i am pat lawson. it's 8:26 on this thursday, october 6th. let's go to veronica johnson to get a look at the weather. >> the weather outside, we have the squinty eyes outside if you don't have shades on. we will hit a high of 70, so nice and perfect for fall. therefore the weekend may feel like a touch of late summer around here, and we will see the
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coming up a show a lot of people love to talk about. amc's breaking ban. >> it's about a terminally ill teacher who turns to drug making to secure his family's financial future. it is an edgy role and we'll talk to him coming up. also coming up we have a new batch of dogs who had a total makeover. our bow to wow segment will be here so we'll check out the new looks on those pups. >> we want to remind you about today's tag sale. yesterday we showed you some personal items from our treasure trove, some items we want you to bid on. they're selling them for a good cause. goes to the salvation army. for example, ann, an olympic torch. giving up on the olympic dream that she carried in salt lake on ebay, the price already up to $2500. >> that's pretty cool. to top her i'm going to auction off some letters my dad wrote to me. they're very special to me but you know what?
okay. for a closer look at our tag sale items and to place your bid head to our website today.com. all the proceeds as we say go to the salvation army and bidding ends on sunday. meanwhile, on the heels of our education nation initiative this morning we're reading for the record today. that's right. hoda and her guest cohost for the fourth hour kourtney kardashian are doing their part to promote literacy among young people as we speak. >> that's right. we have actress bridget moynihan the ambassador for the 2011 jump-start read for the record campaign. bridget, good morning. >> good morning. thank you for having me. >> how did you get so involved in this? >> well, it's just such a great cause, you know, they provide early educational skills, language skills, literacy skills to children who aren't getting it at home or in the schools. >> under the age of 5. >> right. it's preparing them for school and for life and it's a really great cause. >> so this year's book is llama, llama, red pajama not to be
confused with liar, liar, pants on fire. you have a 4-year-old. have you read this at home? >> i have. it is one of those books that once you read it, it keeps replaying in your mind and it's a fun book. >> how do people participate in this? >> we're asking everyone to sit down and read today and so you'll be standing up for the importance of early education and you can go on to www.read for the record.org and go on there and check how you can make your reading count today. >> a great idea. thank you very much. >> thanks, bridget. mr. roker, how about a check of the weather? >> i'm donating, i have a mummy from king tut's of the weather? >> i got a mummy from king tut's tomb i will be donating. >> it's money for a good cause. >> that's what is going on around the country and here is what is happening in your neck of the auction. >> the sun has been up for a while and boy the sky is bright.
we're warming up nicely, too. we started at 50 degrees and now at 53. a little bit of a light wind. mild for today. we will see a high of 70 degrees, and i think by lunchtime today, it will be around 66 degrees, and then tomorrow, slightly higher. tomorrow will feel like wednesday, the weekend, nice, warm, and don't forget you can check your -- that is a noodle portrait right there, using my noodle -- you can check your weather any time of the day or night. go to the weather channel on cable or weather.com online where you'll probably see on their weather map lomein pressure. >> because it is noodle day, right? national noodle day. use your noodle. >> wow. coming up next, we've got the star of "breaking bad." we'll catch up with emmy winner brian cranston, but first, this is "today" on nbc.
we are back with award winner bryan cranston up until 2008 probably best known as the dad on the sitcom "malcolm in the middle" and since then has received critical acclaim, in fact three emmys for his portrayal of walter white a high school chemistry teacher turned meth manufacturer on the hit amc drama "breaking bad." take a look. >> we need to start a cook in the next ten minutes to keep to our schedule -- gus's schedule. now, as angry as he may be, i don't believe he is willing to forfeit an entire batch. that just might make him angrier. come on, mike. let us cook. isn't that what this whole thing is about? >> hey, brian. welcome back. >> isn't that what this whole thing -- >> it apparently is not what this whole thing is about. if you take this at its simplest story line, you know, high school chemistry teacher turns meth making drug dealer. >> yeah. >> it lasts two episodes.
>> yeah. >> because it's not really -- this is really as you've put it in the past about the questions the show raises. >> it's a lot like llama, llama, red pajama for adults. it really isn't about glorifying drug making or drug use or anything like that. it's about a man's poor decision making. that's what it's really about. >> well, you've said that this guy is living what most people have as a hypothetical in their lives, that conversation we've all had at a party, which sounds a little depressing. >> right. >> but what would you do if you found you had a limited time to live? >> yeah. if you had a year to live, how would you live your life? or what would you do for a million dollars? how far would you go? and walter white plays that out in a very dangerous way. >> there is an article i read, which by the way called this one of the best four shows of the last ten years, which is pretty nice. it says this. it says, it seemed like this was going to be the story of a man forced to become a criminal because he was dying of cancer.
that's the elevator pitch. but that's completely unrelated to what the show has become. the central question on "breaking bad" is this. what makes a man bad? >> ooh. >> is it true? >> it is. what i've learned from this experience is that any one of us, even the meekest person among us, could become a horrible, dangerous person given the right set of circumstances. >> in a split second? >> not a split second. maybe over four or five seasons. that's how we live our lives, right? >> in 16 episodes. >> yes. >> so this guy has just simply made bad choices in a bad situation, but he doesn't really see another way, does he? >> no. he's down the road too far now. it started off very altruistic. he wanted to leave something for his family so he wouldn't leave them penniless and have their thoughts be of this shrivelled old, dying man. he decided to do something risky
for the first time in his life, use his chemistry background, cook crystal meth, as much as he can, give the money to his family and that was going through his mind. >> in 2008 you finished up with "malcolm in the middle" and from what i understand the roles you were offered immediately following that were pilots for similar characters. >> goofy dads. >> right. and so it's hard because actors want to work. >> right. >> most actors want to support their families. how hard was it to turn those down? >> i don't care for my family very much, so i was willing to take the risk. no, it was easy to turn it down, actually, because the industry has a tendency to want to pigeon hole an actor. oh, he does drama. oh, he does comedy. but i don't want to help them do that, so as soon as i'm done with something i want to veer off and do something else. >> in this day and age i mentioned actors want to work and they like the money. anybody would want to dig into a role like this. but this comes even as the sun light of an angel comes behind you here. >> i know. >> this comes with a challenge because you shoot it in new
mexico. >> right. >> you're not hanging out with the other actors in hollywood. you're on the road. how hard is it? >> it is difficult on the family except i use the commuter bus. i fly home about every weekend to go back home. and that's tough. but actors historically have been vagabonds, the traveling salesmen, you know, so we have to go and accept that part of our lives. >> you have won three emmys for this role? the only reason i think you probably didn't win an emmy this year is because you weren't eligible because the show premiered at a time which kind of took it outside the calendar of the emmys. you've got 16 episodes left? >> we have 16 episodes after this sunday's finale of season four. >> so two more years. >> two more years. >> it's great. >> good to have you here. >> thank you. >> you can catch the season finale of "breaking bad" sunday night on amc. still ahead shall t, the fa amanda knox speaks out about what his daughter's life is like now, home in seattle. i am a face unclogger.
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back at 8:43 kids are bursting with ideas and full of imaginations so think of what it would be like for them to see their stories actually come to life. today contributing correspondent jenna bush hagar found one energetic group making that happen. >> reporter: tell me why you like to write. >> because it's fun to use your imagination and make stories like come to life. >> reporter: a good story is like a treasure, and this group of high energy actors, storming classrooms and stages with the swash buckler's flair for busting the rules and wrapping their hands around a bounty that doesn't necessarily belong to them. >> we are the story pirates. what we do is we take stories written by kids and we turn them into a show. >> reporter: their kid collaborative approach to story telling has produced a shameless fan in one of america's favorite
critics, late night host jon stuart. i heard you played a character at the story pirate's benefit, jfk not the president. >> jfk not the president or the airport. >> my name is -- >> apparently the young man who wrote the story wanted to have fiction and nonfiction so jfk not the president is in there as well as a booger monster. >> what am i going to do about this booger monster? >> ask snot. they have them write from their imaginations so i think that's a very nice lesson for them to learn, that it's a process. it's writing, it's editing. it's working. there are a lot of people involved in it, a lot of people can collaborate with it. >> drink the toilet water. >> reporter: how intimidating is it to use these kids' words and interpret them in your own way? >> in a way it makes our job so easy because all we have to do
is say verbatim what they wrote. >> reporter: will you do me a favor and read me part of your story? >> one day in sea town it smelled funky as a skunk. >> reporter: this 4 grader's story was selected for production by the pirates because of its sensational creativity. >> sandy crab is making dessert for magic sea horse so he could have the best red hair ever. when he eats the dessert he gets red hair. >> reporter: in black box theater just a couple ship links from broadway the story pirates take what's on the page and add a few theatrical touches. >> sandy crab here. >> i'm a piano player for story pirates so i'll kind of just start playing along and we're just all kind of feeding off each other and we create kind of a little, almost like a little cartoon, a little narrative of the story. >> ow! >> reporter: imaginy sea horse felt mad like the last toy on the shelf. what does that mean? >> sometimes like toys are
lonely. >> they don't get to decide anything. the idea that their words have power or that their ideas will be taken seriously, i think, is what makes their curiousity really spark. >> a round of applause for lela jimenez! >> reporter: it's a different kind of learning but it is real learning. they learn their ideas matter and that everything that was produced, every tv show, every movie, every comic book, it all had to start with an idea. and someone had to write it down. >> reporter: what was it like to have your parents watch your performance? what did they say to you? >> they said, good job, lela. you did great about the story that you wrote. >> these are the people who in very short period of time are going to be like running the planet. ♪ let the hair roll >> it's not our ideas that are going to be, you know, that are going to change the world. it's their ideas.
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dogs from a shelter, clean them up, and find them loving homes. here with our latest group of deserving animals is our animal advocate, jill rappaport. >> i thought you were going to say animal jill. good morning to you, matt. we still have a 100% success record. and this time we are doing, because fall is in full gear, doing family friendly dogs and it's really wonderful as you know. dogs for children and all of these dogs are great with children of any age and these animals are in desperate need of a loving home. it's autumn at animal care control in new york city. where sadly the cages are still full of furry faces, ready to become new members of loving families. first up, this bundle of energy named marlon. >> marlon is a 3-month-old beagle mix. >> just adorable. he's a puppy so he is very playful, very active. >> we're stressing family dogs, children's dogs. this is a great breed for a child. >> they grow up together. the parents have to be involved to make sure that they have the
proper training and supervision. >> okay. >> until he's big enough, then he has a little bit better manners. >> yes. next this blue-eyed stunner who has the patience of a saint. say hello to roscoe. >> he was already with the family. >> yes. >> a loving pet. but they had to give him up. they couldn't afford to keep him. >> he's been around kids, grand kids, so a family with older kids would be good for him. >> very calm. >> yes, he's very calm. he sat upon command. he's 2 years old. >> he's young. just a little boy. >> a siberian husky. >> from a mellow fellow to a tan and white special named bud. >> this butterscotch parfait, this is bud. sweet and mellow and quiet as can be. >> he does have eyes in here. >> needs a little groomg. he would be a great family dog with real little children as well. >> if they're watching television he'll probably just
sit on their lap and relax with them. >> a couch potato. really just wants love and attention. >> exactly. went right into your arms. look how relaxed he is. >> finally meet spike, an adorable golden retriever. you can't think of a more wonderful, loving family dog than a golden retriever. we have spike. >> he's 5 years old. as you can see, he needs to lose a little bit of weight. >> children of all ages would be good with this dog. >> small toddlers have to be careful just because he is a big dog and they could easily get knocked over but otherwise he'll be in really good condition. >> he just needs a treadmill. four beautiful boys waiting for loving places to call home. >> we're joined as always by richard jenels of animal care and control of new york. before we bring the dogs out, congratulations. we were in an event for you last night. you received the voice for the animals award from the humane society at their annual gala. that is a big honor for your work here on the "today" show. >> you made the presentation. >> i was thrilled to do it and for your work away from the show
as well. congratulations. >> thank you. >> let us now bring in our dogs. okay. we've got those puppies that needed to find new homes. marlon the beagle puppy mix, here is a picture of him at the shelter. no, there is a picture of marlon right now being brought out by jason, still a growing boy, right? >> yes, he is. jason is doing a great job walking him out. but he is a puppy. he's only 4 months old so he needs house training. he needs obedience training. but he is very smart and eager to learn and extremely playful. >> he is actually being much more mellow. >> he really is. >> jason, thank you so much. we appreciate it. if you can take marlon over there. next we've got spike. this is the golden retriever, right? >> yes. >> spike is being brought out by 11-year-old victoria. retrievers, everybody loves them retrievers. >> yeah. and he's, in the foster home he got along with the dogs and cats there and believe it or not he likes to take walks.
he'll probably lay down in two minutes. >> but a nice disposition. >> great disposition on this dog. absolutely. >> he just needs to get in shape. >> he does. he tries. >> brian's disposition not so good. >> all right. thank you very much. victoria. perfect timing. >> a true couch potato. >> we've got a big makeover now. here is a picture of bud at the shelter. he is a 7-year-old shih tzu and here is noah holding bud right now. >> oh, look how cute. >> now he's obviously a middle aged dog and he likes chicken flavored dog food. >> an important fact. yes. that is very important. >> but he really is the most mellow dog. >> a quiet, cozy home would be perfect for him. he's just a mellow, beautiful
sweetie. >> noah, thank you very much. we appreciate it. that's bud there. and we saved one of the biggest dogs for last. here comes roscoe. this is the siberian husky. he comes out with a 2 1/2-year-old named porter. oh, how cute. and her dad, doug. now this is the one where this dog had a family that couldn't afford to keep him anymore? >> yes. exactly. one of three they couldn't afford in these difficult times. that's what we're seeing and that is why it is so important to donate to your shelter so we can take good care of these dogs when they come in to us. >> and porter loves him, don't you? >> so cute. and we see a lot about the dog by how gentle he is and calm around porter. >> he's been with the kids today and he is 2 1/2. he's a really smart dog. he's eager to learn. he's going to have a lot of energy. >> let's bring out all the dogs so we can get one more last look. >> very good. >> jill, thank you very much. richard, thank you very much. porter, thank you very much. congratulations on your honor as
scene so it might be difficult to get around that area. we will continue to follow this and bring you any updates as soon as they come in. let's take a look at the forecast with veronica. >> yeah, it's pretty nice. we are at 55 degrees across the area now. lots of sunshine as we get up to 70 degrees. more sun tomorrow, and the high 73, and then around 80 this weekend. co
back with more of "today" on a thursday morning, october 6th, 2011. great morning to be in new york city and probably a lot of spots along the east coast. the weather is just plain perfect. a little chilly this morning but warming up beautifully today and right through the weekend. >> that's right. perfect fall day. >> out on the plaza i am matt lauer with ann curry and al roker. coming up this morning the tributes continue to pour in for td former ceo of apple steve jobs. >> that's right. a true visionary. he has passed away at the age of 56 after a long battle with pancreatic cancer. his impact on the world, boy, i
don't even know if the word enormous is big enough to describe what he has done to our world. he has made computers user friendly, changed the way we talk on the phone and listen to music, the way we communicate. we'll take a look at his legacy and also be talking about steve jobs' impact as well as his illness with our today's professionals team. we've got star jones, donnie deutsch and dr. nancy snyderman back breaking down all the latest news and studies for us. also, there is still obviously a lot of curiosity about amanda knox and how she is doing now that she's had her murder conviction overturned and she's out of italy, back with her family and friends. in just a couple minutes we'll be talking to her dad about how that adjustment period is going for amanda. on a different note you think about fall and start looking around and thinking i want to spice things up, we'll show you simple things you can do to spice up every room in your home without busting the
bank. >> that's a good idea. >> a lot to get to. let's go inside. savannah guthrie is at the news desk. good morning. in the news today an outpouring of tributes for apple cofounder steve jobs who is being remembered today as a visionary and leading light of the digital age. nbc's george lewis has more now from apple headquarters in cupertino, california. george, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, savannah. it is a sad day for apple and its 47,000 employees worldwide mourning steve jobs, a man who had no formal schooling in computer engineering but figured out a way to make tech sexy and for a time transformed apple into the most valuable company in the world. he was a college dropout who cofounded apple computer in 1976 and within a few years became fabulously wealthy. his secret? wow the consumers with cool designs and ease of use.
in 1984 he introduced the macintosh, calling it insanely great. there was a famous super bowl ad for the mac running only once on tv but seen millions of times on youtube. apple didn't always prevail. faced with tough competition, the company struggled, trying to gain a share of the personal computer market. and steve jobs had an abrasive personality that contributed to his ouster from apple in 1985. >> the brilliant, genius visionary side of him burned very, very bright. and there was this terrible dark side to him, too. >> reporter: he went into the movie business, acquiring pixar studios in 1986, making a string of hit computer-animated films starting with "toy story." >> to infinity and beyond! >> reporter: then, after an 11-year absence he was brought back to apple where his creativity revitalized the company.
the ipod changed the way people listened to their music. >> today apple is going to reinvent the phone. >> reporter: and across the country there were long lines for the first iphones in 2007. then three years later they lined up for the ipad, changing the way people consume media. >> most of the great ideas when you see them you go, of course. >> reporter: but while he was brimming with great ideas, steve jobs was battling declining health. >> this was the closest i've been to facing death, and i hope it's the closest i get for a few more decades. >> reporter: then in 2009 he underwent a liver transplant. on august 24th of this year, jobs stepped down as apple's ceo. six years earlier, he had this bit of advice for the stanford grads. >> have the courage to follow your heart and intuition. they somehow already know what you truly want to become. >> he would always talk about the great people that moved us forward as humans, the shakespeares, isaac newtons,
that the very few that had a very special brain, and because he spoke of them all, he wanted to be one of those people. >> reporter: he was a man who followed his heart and intuition to become one of silicon valley's great visionaries. steve jobs leaves behind a wife and four children. >> now a statement from the jobs family says steve died peacefully surrounded by those he loved. savannah? >> all right. george lewis in cupertino, california, thank you. politics now and the republican presidential field appear set this morning now that former alaska governor sarah palin has announced she will not run in 2012. she said, quote, you don't need an office or a title to make a difference. and a warm and fuzzy baby boom in china. a dozen baby pandas were shown off today at a breeding and research center in honor of a chinese national holiday. pretty cute. let's check in with al for the
weather. thanks so much. got cuties here. what's your name? >> haley. >> who is your little sister? >> camby. >> well, look at the little earrings. very sweet.ttle earrings right . very sweet. let's check that weather. we are looking at a mess out west with rain along the coast. in the mountains, we're talking about snow and some areas picking up anywhere from 6 to 12 inches in the rockies and wasatch as well, and then in the east we will look at the next few days and atlanta moisture coming in, and by monday we're talking about almost nine inches of rain along the florida coast, and three to six inches of rain from central texas into the central plains. that's what is going on around theere is what is happening in your neck of the woods. >> a couple of carbon copy days.
take a look at the temperatures around the area. we are warming nicely in prince georges county. 53 degrees. and we have potomac up to 51 degrees, and later today we will rise to about 70. so it's going to be nice for fall around here, and then a touch of summer comes our way for the weekend. ki and that's your latest weather. matt? >> all right, al. thank you very much. amanda knox has been back home in the united states for less than 48 hours now after serving four years in an italian prison for murder. that conviction was overturned on monday in her appeal. so how is she adjusting? curt knox is amanda's father and joins me now from seattle. good to see you. thanks. >> thanks for having me. >> i was thinking as i saw the images of amanda moving through the rome airport on her way to board a flight back home that it's hard to just flip a switch and say to someone who has been confined for four years and not in control of her own life,
okay, now be normal. how is the adjustment going? >> you know, it's actually going amazingly well. it's almost like she hasn't missed a beat with her family and, you know, that is really what she said in her statement at the press conference is she just wanted to be with her family. that's what's been happening so far. she is doing actually very well. >> there is an ironic piece of this. right now she is in a location, and you don't want anybody to know where that is and we completely understand that, and yet i wonder, is that freedom? i mean, you know, freedom is you get to go where you want, do what you want to do without the prying eyes of the public or the media. at the moment she's not really entitled to that it seems. >> well, that is a true statement but, you know, her friends especially from college really have known her longer in prison than they have, you know, outside of prison. they've been coming into this particular location and joining her and really it allows her to see what's been happening with them and reconnect with them as
well as the family, so, you know, maybe another week of that and then it will start to be more like a confined circumstance. >> talk to me about that, those interpersonal relationships. as you watch her talking to her sisters, for example, and her friends, the ones you just described, is it natural, is it easy, or is it somewhat awkward since they probably can't even imagine what she's been through over these last four years? >> well, you know, the questions, really, on how she's been doing, is really not focused on what's happened in her prison time. she is more concerned and wants to know what's going on with them and so that i think is kind of a testament to who she is and how she develops her friendships. but it's been really nice to see and hopefully it will continue to progress that way. >> you know, i was thinking you weren't even out of the country of italy yet when the prosecution had already said without a doubt they're going to appeal this to italy's supreme court and it seems as if they didn't want her to really have
the sense of freedom entirely. they wanted that to hang over her head. has she discussed that with you at all? >> you know, that really hasn't been the focus. we obviously know that there is an indication that they're going to appeal, but you know, she knows she is clearly innocent and i think the court really recognized that during this appeals trial and hopefully they feel that the truth really came out. you know, like i said, she's focused on getting back with her friends and her family right now. >> you know, much has been said and written, curt, about what this has done to your family, the emotional toll of this, the financial toll of this. i mean, you guys have spent an awful lot of money getting her defense in order and also commuting back and forth. you've had to -- some of you have actually spent most of your time there in italy, so i would imagine there is a need on your part to recoup some of those financial losses. are you getting some offers right now, some that maybe even
surprise you? >> you know, we haven't really focused on that. our focus really has been amanda and her well being and how she is progressing and what her new freedom is. you know, i'm certain that those things will probably come in at some point in time, but that's really not where we are. we're really focused on her and getting her back to normal. >> amanda does not want this to be the event in her life that defines her i would imagine. what do you think she would like to define her? >> you know, it's really interesting. i think when she originally went to school and then now after this experience i think there is a new found desire from her standpoint to really help people that have been wrongfully imprisoned and she is has obvioy experienced that. i think down the road that is probably what we're going to see and see her really try to make a difference in people's lives most importantly, i hope that you and your family members get a chance to just enjoy having her back around the house.
curt knox, i appreciate your time this morning. >> well, thank you for having me. >> all right. still to come, more on the legacy of apple's cofounder steve jobs and how he changed the way the world lives. our today's professional team takes a look at that and other top stories right after this. like many chefs today, i feel the best approach to food is to keep it whole for better nutrition. and that's what they do with great grains cereal. see the seam on the wheat grain? same as on the flake. because great grains steams and bakes the actual whole grain. now check out the other guy's flake.
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stories making news. star jones is an attorney and author. donnie deutsch is chairman of a multibillion dollar advertising agency and dr. nancy snyderman is a head and neck surgeon, nbc's chief medical editor. good morning to you all. we start on a sad note. steve jobs passed and i think it's remarkable to see how many lives he touched. there was that moment this morning when matt had everybody on the plaza hold up their iphone and it just shows you in just that one image how wide ranging his impact was. star? what do you think? >> changed the way i work, explore, create, and think because of his brain. he's like my generation's edison. >> donnie, as someone in business you must admire him greatly. >> you said there is something obviously sad about his passing but how many people can you say in the last half century changed our lives for the better? i mean, think about that. what he did is he took people, technology, and he went like this. >> and what is so interesting about it is he wasn't a hardware engineer. he wasn't a software developer,
but we all agree -- >> he sold us things we didn't even really need which was really cool and what amazed me as a physician was that seven years after a diagnosis of a lethal tumor, he still worked, he followed his passion. he didn't get his life in order and take off for the riviera. he stayed true to who he always was. >> he's given us a road map for the future. he did this brilliant commercial for apple where he showed, like here's to all the crazies. he showed mohammed ali and picasso and martin luther king. every young person should watch that one commercial. >> he made technology and machines so human. i remember the first time i got a mac i thought when i opened it up i don't know if i should turn it on or hug it, it was so cute for lack of a better word. >> and he is a man born out of wedlock, dropped out of college, adopted. what's your excuse? >> exactly. well, with lots of fond memories of steve jobs, we move on to another topic. this is causing some controversy. face value.
there is a new study that shows that the right amount of makeup affects judgments that we all make on one another. let me show you some pictures. this is what they did in the study. they showed women with a range of makeup from no makeup at all the way through what they called a professional look to the one on the right which is obviously the one with the most makeup called glamorous. when they first showed the pictures people mostly had a positive response but here is the interesting part. when they reviewed for a longer period of time the photos with women with the heavier makeup people started using words like "untrust worthy" and "dishonest." wearing makeup makes people have a bad opinion of you? star, what are we going to do? >> i don't leave the house without a lip and a lash. doesn't matter one way or the other. i think wearing makeup actually speaks to whether or not you want to make a professional presentation to the world. i don't see dishonesty. >> the idea is if you have a heavy hand this study demonstrates people are going to -- >> if we leave the studio today and walk down the street we look like ladies of the evening. this is not normal makeup.
>> you don't look like ladies of the evening. okay? there is a lot you can say about me. what is interesting or not interesting about this, this is sometimes how studies and research are bologna. obviously if you put in front of somebody someone very made up and not who do you trust it's like saying put somebody old and young. on the street you wouldn't see somebody with makeup and say i don't trust them. this is what i call forced exposure and there's a lot of kind of bunk out there in these surveys and this is one of them. >> we have another study. try this one on for size. food or sex? according to a study by atkins the diet purveyor women think about food more than sex. let me give you some of the shocking stats. 1 in 10 women would feel guiltier straying from their diet than being unfaithful to their partner. 1 in 4 women said dieting is more important than their relationship. >> i'll go back to what donnie said a second ago. atkins sponsored this so let's be real about the outcome. >> do you doubt it? >> well, all you have to do is pick up "cosmo" and air supposed to do both, have great sex and
be skinny. i always say people lie about how often they have sex. they go high. on their weight they report low. >> i think a lot of it has, as somebody on the other side of the equation who has maybe through the years been with women of various ages as i have sanlgd i think it has a lot to do with life stage. for instance a younger woman who is looking to start a relationship sex is higher on the scale than maybe a woman who is raising her kids versus an older woman. i have to think that lines up with life stage. i mean, i think women actually in their late 30s to early 50s are kind of really right in there. >> really depends on where you are. it actually really depends on where you are in your relationship with yourself also. i know that for me food was very comforting during a time of depression. and so you really -- once a woman starts to get in touch with who she is and really explores that self-awareness that's when you see the food become a little bit more important. >> okay. only have about a minute left. next topic, internet investigator. using the internet to
investigate your next co-worker. this is more than just googling. do you think it's kosher to do a public records search on somebody? >> i check everybody out there. >> to be honest with you i think for a woman, particularly in the world of the internet now, if a woman is meeting a guy online. >> yes. >> she should do everything she can to make sure she is safe. i don't think it's creepy. if she wants to investigate somehow, does he have a record? because you are meeting complete strangers in a dark alley. >> i wouldn't meet a guy online. if i met a guy i would meet him in a public place for lunch only with my own set of keys. >> the public library today. all right? >> the former prosecutor says right now you might as well tell people to bend over and cough. that's how dangerous it is to meet somebody online. >> my doctor tells me to do that. i was told it was a healthy thing to do. >> 20 seconds for the last topic. there is a pill that can allegedly wipe away your bad memories. would you take it? >> i think this has application for a person coming out of iraq or afghanistan who can't get a normal life back. it's not for the little bump that allows you to have the fabric of a lifetime. >> 30 years ago if you said
there was a pill for depression, it's great. anything that makes people feel better why not. >> anything that makes you get through the day, i'll let do you it. >> we'll get into that another day. >> this was so much fun today. >> thank you. i really enjoyed it too. >> matt lauer did it last week. he's a punk. >> yes. >> this is up here. a whole other level. >> thank you. i'll pay you 20 bucks later for saying that. thanks. still to come, makeup tricks to fix your imperfections. beauty expert bobbie brown is here with some tips and a makeover for your home room by room. we'll switch out the drab and replace it with the fab right after these messages. jennie-o e ancr) is hitting the road, traveling all across the country to win over people everywhere th the burger that's as lean as it is delicious. (woman) the flavor is fantastic. (man) that's turkey? this is amazing! it's juicy. (man #2) it's very surprising, the flavor is really good. (man #3) i think people will love it. (ancr) enjoy your burgers cooked thoroughly to 165 degrees. i gotta get some of these. it's time for a better burger. so get on board and make the switch.
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fabulous living space without spending a lot of time or money. >> all right. then in today's beauty segment i'm really looking for ward to t we all have the facial flaws we wish we could do something about weechlt don't know how to use makeup correctly like dark circles or uneven skin tone. makeup expert bobbie brown is here to show us some of her fabulous tricks of the trade. a bit later on, al, we'll be cooking like rock stars in today's kitchen with a seasonal and easy pasta dish, i repeat easy for me pasta dish for fall. >> looks good. all right. as we mentioned we are continuing to read for the record today. we're joined by psychologist dale atkins. a jump-start spokesman, one of our faves here. she also sits on the nonprofit new york advisory board. bill barke is the chairman of pearson u.s. higher education. you guys have been great sponsoring this jump-start reading program. >> good morning. >> first of all, you're not wearing your red pajamas. >> we thought about it but we have the llama.
>> obviously reading is important but what are you trying to accomplish by this day where everybody should be reading this particular book? >> well, what we're really trying to accomplish, and may i first say thank you again for sponsoring us, this is our sixth time with you, we are trying to accomplish raising awareness about the education achievement gap in preschool children, children who are born in poverty often enter kindergarten one to three times -- one out of three children who enter kindergarten enter two years behind their age peers and what we're trying to do is have people read to raise awareness about literacy. we can do this with your help and with people signing on to our website and reading. >> well, bill, it's great day, a great effort. but what happens after today? >> well, tackling the literacy gap is a year-round program. and after today, we will work with jump-start year round on a variety of different programs. we provide the curriculum to teach these young children as
well as a lot of other activities throughout the year. >> we couldn't do it without pearson and we couldn't do it without all of you helping us to again raise the awareness so we really can change the literacy gap and bring kids together so that they can compete and they can enter school ready to learn. >> thank you so much. dale atkins and bill, good to have you here. al, how about a check o al, how about a check of the weather? >> that's what is going on around your neck of the llama and here is what is happening in your neck of the woods. >> we will see temperatures rise up to 70 degrees. another warm one for us today, cooler than yesterday. and then tomorrow we bounce back from the low to mid-70s throughout the area, and close to 80 degrees this weekend. the high pressure sticks with us and looks like it will be a very, very long, dry stretch, the longest since midsummer. the high on monday,
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this morning on today's home a drab to fab living room makeover. how do we swap out the old boring for an updated look at an affordable price? good to see you, suzanne. >> good to see you. >> a lot of things, we've only got a limited amount of time but we have our stage hands to help us. >> help us transform because our rooms get in ruts. >> all right. first of all this, rut. >> let's get rid of this boring rug. >> rug is out. >> rug and coffee table. if you have a bland rug your whole room is going to get sucked down. give your rug some power. >> sure. >> look at this great one from pier 1. looks fabulous. i like going bold and visual. don't you wish this could happen every day? >> fantastic. >> coffee table. this is from 1 king's lane under 200 bucks. it should be not just functional but stylish. >> right. >> instantly i took away some of the clutter. put the remotes in a bowl. i'm going to neaten up. >> they got rid of the mixed
match chairs. >> look at these from home goods, like $230. they look fabulous. they clean up the space. >> yeah. >> we're really moving it along here. >> yes. >> now look. all of a sudden the room has some layering. it's not that one note bland. >> right. >> and we're even going to take away, i get so crazy when people don't have a balance and these wonderful j.c. penney visuals, these trees, i think they give the wall a nice look. i have a pair of fabulous lamps. check this out. suddenly, there's some harmony and layering. >> look at that. >> these fabulous pillows. keep your old sofa. zip it up with accessories. >> that changes the look of it. >> i just wanted to get some different patterns, layers, styles going on to zip it up. i think we did. >> right. what do we do here? >> okay. this should go back just a little bit. this is a fantastic, look at this exotic table from home goods. under $200. again, things with personality and style. >> right. instead of table lamps you like floor lamps.
>> i like balancing out a room with two big floor lamps. gives it some power and style. people sort of do hodgepodge in their room and that is the biggest mistake you can do. >> then what about since the sofa, you don't want, i mean that is a big ticket -- >> that is a big purchase so at least treat yourself to some fun. i don't worry about pillows matching the rug. i picked up the colors of the gold of the rug. it gives it some personality. >> and as far as the colors like say of the chairs do they -- i mean, these chairs match but do they have to pick up colors -- >> you should pick up a few but don't worry about mixing a pattern with a pattern on a rug. it all goes and in fact makes it more interesting. before the room looked too boring. it looked like a bad hotel room. you want to have things going on that have style. >> and again, this table, i mean, this is a strong -- >> this is a strong piece. go with strong. again, if you go too soft and too bland the whole room looks like it doesn't have a personality. >> but you don't have to balance that. you don't need another one to match it? >> you know what? in fact, we did have two here,
al, and it looked too matched. you know, it can be a little bit off to make it more interesting. >> okay. we have got a before shot here. >> let's look at before. drab to fab. >> there is before. that was a little drab. >> yes. >> see behind us how the two pieces on the wall looked mismatched? >> yeah. >> i love the power of the three panels from j.c. penney. $60 for all three. >> really. >> doesn't have to cost a lot. that's pretty cool. so you don't have to worry about repainting or anything like that. >> repainting is the cheapest thing you can do. if you don't have the energy at least rethink has it looked thi way for five years? what little things can i do to make it bet sner. >> do i have to do this all at once? >> no but i guarantee if you do one thing you'll want to t's like dominos. you get a great rug and something else doesn't look right. do it when you can but it is fun to do it all at once, once you get inspired. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. thanks to the guys. my gosh.
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this morning on today's beauty, fixing your flaws. makeup mavin bobbie brown is here with simple solutions to problems real women have. nice to see you. >> good morning. nice to see you. >> we're going to do a little technology. you have the telestrator. >> exactly. >> it's not just for sports but for makeup toonch. bobbie brown cosmetics provided these pictures but there are no camera tricks. >> unretouched pictures before and after to show women how good you look before and how amazing after. >> let's start with angel. her complaint was about her brows. >> right. well, for angel, and a lot of women don't realize that if you just fill in your brows
especially at the end there you see, it makes a huge difference. okay. so you'll see her after. and we evened out her skin and honestly look at the difference. let me undo that one. look at the difference. did you see how right here we filled it in with a natural brown shadow. i believe it was a mahogany color but we made it longer and also when you do brows you want to also start at the inside and make sure the brows are even between the nose. >> is that with a liner or an eye shadow? >> the best way is with a brown eye shadow, the same she will use on her eyes. >> interesting. >> so with an eyebrow slanted brush which gets it done. >> let's get to alexis. she has a worry a lot of us on this shift have, dark circles. >> yes, dark circles. >> i don't think hers are that bad. >> you'll see the big difference. okay? a lot of women, it is just the way her eyes are shaped. she is so beautiful. >> yes. >> but when you apply concealer it's right under here and also women forget to do on the inner corner of the eye. i just gave her a black eye but
honestly that is where the concealer goes. okay? >> let's see after. there are several steps here. corrector first? >> yes. eye cream first, then corrector, and then concealer. and i like to use a yellow powder on top of the concealer to blend it in the skin and also making sure that it lasts. if you see right, look at the big difference. >> yes. >> it's huge. i don't even need to circle it. >> does the concealer need to be lighter than your foundation or darker? >> it needs to be one shade lighter than your foundation. >> okay. >> it is not one shade lighter than your foundation, it is going to be too white and you'll look like a rack ocoon but side side you see the difference. >> she is stunning. >> let's get to joann. i think she has complained of loss definition. >> this is so common. as we age, a lot of women look in the mirror and say i need plastic surgery. guess what? you don't. you just need the right makeup to give you a makeup face lift. what we did is to even out her, all of her skin, and when i look at joann you see red over here on her eyelids. you see a lot of red right here. and you want to get rifd the d
redness but also add definition to her eye area. >> let's see her after picture. >> look at the difference. >> wow. >> it is huge. what we did is we evened out her complexion but adding definition both in a natural eyebrow so we used a gray color to match her hair but mostly look at eye liner. that is a fine gel liner and mascara that made her eyes stand out. >> a little more color on the lips. alissa complained of uneven skin. >> right. this is very common. she is young. she's beautiful. what's uneven about her skin is you see redness here. you definitely see redness here. you see the little teenie spots. this is someone with beautiful coloring in her skin. >> so it's about picking the right foundation. >> it's making sure it is natural. someone with skin like this even a tinted moisturizer, very light, very beautiful. >> wow. >> she is very, she looks like angelina jolie a little bit. >> i think so, too. >> look at the difference. it's natural and it's makeup that looks like her and that's the main thing. >> our final 30 seconds, speaking of natural, a lot of us
want a natural look but we get past a certain age and you don't think you can get away with it. >> natural doesn't mean washed out. >> okay. >> natural means makeup that's right for your complexion. this is her nude complexion. i don't even have to circle anything because everyone at home is saying she looks great as is. but look at the difference. this is what i call pretty powerful. when you see her after picture. and if you see them side by side. >> wow. >> it's nude color, not washing her out. look at the difference. it's even. it's a natural blush. look at her beautiful lip color. it's nude. soft eyebrows but still defined and to me that's a perfect, you know, pretty powerful look. >> all right. bobbie brown, love it. the before and after. thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up next a hearty pasta dinner using seasonal ingredients. but first this is "today" on nbc.
for dinner? >> the host of secrets of a restaurant chef on the food network is out with her first cookbook called "cook like a rock star." anne, good morning. how are we going to cook like a rock star today? >> good morning. thank you for having me. we are cooking like a rock star by cooking really good food seasonally making it look good and taste good and then collecting the big fat compliments at the end. >> there you go. you're teaming up this with roasted butternut squash. >> we tossed it in olive oil, a little salt. put it in the oven. we have broccoli we blanched quickly in salty, boiling water and then whole wheat. >> how do you get rid of the bitterness? >> just a quick dunk in and out of salty boiling water. it is a bitter vegetable. >> so the squash kind of cuts the bitterness? >> the squash is super sweet so we have bitter sweet. then we have our beautiful wheaty pasta which is really nice.
we cook in salty boiling water as well. and then we just finish up the whole shooting match with some pumpkin seeds and some parmesan cheese. >> did you put a little pasta water in there as well? >> yes. just to keep things sort of loose. go ahead and do that, al. >> you have a really nice, hearty dish you're going to make. >> we have short ribs over here. we're talking about big fall stuff and these are all recipes in pie book "cook like a rock star" which is great. >> why did you choose the whole wheat? >> all right. this is for somebody who is really hungry. all right. >> yum. >> here we go. hilarious. add crunchy pumpkin seeds to finish it off. here we go. >> that is a fall meal. >> tell us about the ribs. >> braised short ribs. and we have, we're going to fin wish a little horseradish, spicy stuff just at the end. so again, all of these recipes. >> something is cooking in the kitchen over there. >> that's in the book too.
make sure you turn off your burner when you're done. >> with me you don't want to leave anything to chance. >> there we go. it looks beautiful and tastes beautiful. it's got all like lovely flavor points. we finish up with little christicrunchy stuff. short ribs are a low and slow. these aren't like 45 minutes to make dinner and whip out some short ribs. it is sort of a sunday afternoon i've got four hours and i want my house to smell delicious then have you people over for dinner and they walk in like, hum. you're a rock star. yes, i sure am. >> then you say, big meat! >> i like it. anne, thanks so much. congratulations on the new book "cook like a rock star." coming up kourtney kardashian cohosts with hoda. >> first your local news and weather.
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captions paid for by nbc-universal television hey, everybody, it's thirsty thursday october 6, 2011. we are keeping up with the kardashian. we have each member of the famous family on to fill in for kathie lee. today is kourtney's turn. >> this is fun. >> what do you think so far? you're in the chair.
>> i've never been on this side of the studio. we've got mimosas and i love it. >> i asked if you were still breast-feeding. >> no. mason is 22 months. i think i stopped early because my sisters said it's time, it's time. i did 14 months, but i think next time i would do two years. >> why? >> i miss they think they know
him. >> there he is. he was here with your mother. >> she jumped on his bed 6:30 a.m. and woke him up. then we had a late dinner. we went to "the lion king" last night. >> did he love it? >> loved it. he sat for an hour and a half mesmerized. didn't make a peep. unbelievable. he never sat that still ever. he's so active. we left at halftime because i was -- >> halftime. >> whatever. intermission. i thought he probably wouldn't sit still. >> why aren't you guys married because everyone asks you that all the time. he said ask you. >> oh, come on. of course he said that. >> he was going to and you didn't want to. who doesn't want to get married? >> i don't.
i think we both just feel like it's not the right time. i don't know when the right time is or what that means. i think just how our relationship has evolved and then i got pregnant. i didn't just want to go get married because i was like, if i wasn't pregnant i wouldn't go get married. i don't know. >> so why do it now. >> for us, and we are in a great place. we have such a happy family. i'm just like a piece of paper to me doesn't make our relationship any better or worse than anyone else's. >> your eyelashes are crazy. i'm listening to what you're saying. can you see? go sideways. >> no zoom in. >> no. just sideways. they're all there. they are insane. >> thank you. >> you guys get a lot of attention. you get spoofed a lot, you and your sisters. >> yes.
>> let's watch one quick spoof on "snl." >> hi. >> all right, very good. let's introduce ourselves, girls. >> i'm kim, the hot one. >> i'm kourtney, the smart one. >> i'm khloe, i'm third. >> you certainly are delightful. let's take a seater and seat our bottoms. >> i can't, my butt. >> when you see that stuff do you laugh? >> we definitely laugh. then i'm also like kourtney is the shortest one. >> are you really the smarter one? >> no. i went to college and graduated. my sisters didn't -- well, khloe didn't go. khloe did home school. i don't think that makes you smarter or not. >> you do have that sort of, that is a tag you get of the group, i think.
>> i'll take it. >> we are going to give you a little quiz about kris. the big wedding is coming up sunday, october 9th. >> yes. >> i hear from sources. >> yes. >> i'm going to give you a kris humphries quiz. your mom did the worse. she didn't get one question about kris right. khloe goes three and bruce got them all right. now it's up to you. >> go, bruce. we always say bruce doesn't listen. >> for the new jersey nets, kris humphries wears which number? >> 43. >> you're right. >> oh, stop. >> you'reness going to know this one. i don't think khloe knows it. what is kris humphries' shoe size? >> 14. >> not exactly. 12. kris turned down a scholarship offer from which university, duke, georgetown, indiana or kentucky? >> kentucky. >> duke.
>> oh, my goodness. >> anyway, so there you have it. >> i got one right. >> you got one right. bruce knows the most. then we'll ask kim. she may not know some of these tomorrow. >> that would be amazing if she didn't. >> you guys are big tweeters. i noticed today you were tweeting about steve jobs and his passing. isn't it funny how many lives this one man affected? he's almost the thomas edison of our time. >> he is. >> it feels like that, doesn't it? >> yeah. i was reading this morning a lot of his quotes. those are quotes that will live on forever. and, like, inspire people. just such an incredible man. >> if you guys are at home and you want to be inspired, go to injure stamford university 2005 commencement speech. it is a home run. it will inspire you. think about him giving the best
he's got. "you cannot connect the dots looking forward. you can only connect them looking backwards. so you have to trust that the dots will somehow connect in your future. you have to trust in something, your gut, destiny, life, karma, whatever. this approach has never let me down and has made all the difference in my life." that is such a great statement. sometimes when you're venturing off into a new business, you want to be sure it's going to work. >> yeah. you have to trust it in. i was reading another one of his quotes this morning about work and how you have to love what you do. it's so true. he says, don't give up, don't settle. you want to love what you do. >> find your passion. >> because that takes up so much of your life. >> i love that. we love a lot of things in our life and we love music on the show. it's that day where we get to pick our favorite songs. okay. i picked one and i know you picked one. because we're being kind of all techie today, we have these cute
little speakers. mine is an old school song. i hope you know it. it may be too old. it's by a guy named montel and it's called "this is how we do it." go. ♪ >> this is one of scott's favorite songs. >> what? >> yes. is it my turn? >> not yet. ♪ this is how we do it ♪ it's friday night >> this is what you put on when you're going out? >> yes. >> this is the getting ready song. i love it. ♪ and i feel all right ♪ the party is here ♪ on the west side >> you dance. i dance, but he's outside having a cigar. >> here's yours. this is you. >> oh, yeah.
kanye west and jaycee. this is a song you turn up in your car so loud. >> there are lyrics we can't play. >> this is the radio version. this is what we blast in the car, me and khloe, and we go crazy. i know when it says ♪ i love you so good i call paparazzi on myself ♪ >> when we find it, we'll crank it up. here is "okay." we do "okay" magazine every week. the question today, is it okay to bribe your kids? kathie lee says bribing is a bad idea but encouraging to do the right thing is a necessity. i say, sure it's okay. parents have a lot on their plates. lighten the load if it takes a little incentive to have your kids eat their veggies off their plate. what do you think?
>> i think parents, too often, just say no without giving another option, which i'm not saying it always has to be like a bribe, but you need to show them something else. don't do this, but you should do this instead. or if you're maybe trying to get them to do something like eat your vegetables and maybe say, if you eat your vegetables, you can have a cookie after or something. >> that's a bribe. >> it is a bribe. >> so it's okay sometimes. >> i try to not do it as much as i can because i know i have grand parents and sisters and uncles, all these people that are going to be doing it. >> we should point out "lucky" magazine. they might be confused because they have three versions out. they have the kim, the khloe and the kourtney. all three. are you guys competitive like who is on the most magazines? >> yeah. there is a contest. whoever wins gets a new pair of
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and keep dancing. she didn't see her little brother who by the way is now 13. taylor is 19. they posted that video and has over a million hits. clearly anyone with siblings can relate. >> awesome. sara, thank you. >> little brother's got some skills. >> he does. >> coming up next, jason schwartzman finds an interesting use for craigslist. >> something you won't find on my show.nk o irregularity is no big deal, think twice. it may be a sign that your digestive system could be working better. listen to this with occasional irregularity, things your body doesn't use could be lingering in your system, causing discomfort. but activia has been shown in clinical studies to help with slow intestinal transit when consumed 3 times per day. 7 out of 10 doctors recommend activia. and the great taste is recommended by me!
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♪ actor jason schwartzman stars in hbo's comedy series "bored to death" where he plays a single writer who moonlights as a private detective. of course he does. >> in real life, jason is a new dad who learned a lot in the past ten months. >> hello, jason. >> don't mention it. >> don't mention the ten months. >> don't mention how great it is i am here. i'm so excited. >> we love it. >> i want to say nice to meet you. i met you several times. >> you were practically making out with us last time you were here. >> i felt bad. i thought, did i come on too strong? i'm back here, so obviously you like it. maybe this time we can take it, make it a double. >> here we go. this show you have out is in its third season. it's an interesting concept. the guy is so bored he decides he wants to be a p.i.
he goes on craigslist without any license and goes on wacky adventures. >> yeah. basically, he becomes this unlicensed private directive who works cheap. his cases start out strange and eccentric, maybe one a licensed private detective wouldn't get. now over three seasons, it cases are getting more and more intense, strange and violent. this third season we have coming out, i actually have to solve one of the biggest cases ever, which is that i find out that my biological father is -- well, my father is not my biological father so i search for my father. >> is this your kind of humor? >> i watched this this morning and it was so funny. it's so my kind of humor. >> oh, good. >> i love ted danson. >> i do, too. if they could both adopt me as my new parents, i would love ted
to be my father and zach to be my mom or vice versa. look at that guy. look at that man. he's so handsome. >> when you were here last time, remember? your wife was pregnant. >> yes, i remember. now we have a child. i feel -- what can i say? what can i say? >> has it transformed? >> i haven't transformed. >> your life changes in one day. your whole entire life is completely different. >> yep. >> i heard you were reading about being a baby whisperer? >> i read this book "secrets of the baby whisperer." it's a great book. >> what did you learn from it? >> one thing i love about -- in the from the book, but just in general, one thing i love is just when they look at you, this feeling comes over me, it's a
sense of love, well i feel it now looking at why you guys, but before that moment -- >> i feel it, too. >> before that moment i only felt it with my baby. but i wouldn't have been able to feel that with you unless i had my baby. >> exactly. >> i thank my child for what we just had. it was between the three of us on national television. i felt it here. you look at her, i look at my child and she blows my mind. one thing that's amazing, you watch them do things, little movements and then after several weeks, they pick something up or they're standing. you realize, what i've been watching for the three weeks i thought were just strange movements, she was actually beginning to learn something bigger. i think that's incredible. >> we love that you come to see us. we love the way you look at us. >> i love the way you look at me. it takes three to tango. please watch my show. it's october 10th.
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we are back with today's "call of the wild." we are about to meet a couple of penguins who paint. >> these guys are a couple of penguins picassos. >> these guys paint? >> we do. they make fabulous pieces of artwork for sale at our gift shop and on our website to help with research and conservation efforts. >> you think of penguins as being cold weather birds. these are african? >> these are african penguins and can withstand temperatures over 100 degrees. >> what's happening here? >> what we've done, we actually taught our penguins to show us the bottom of their feet for medical checks so we can look for cracks or cuts they might get. we decided to see if we can put paint on there and let them do the rest of the work. >> let's see. >> okay. so they walk along the canvas is
the idea. then they leave their little marks. you sell these or what happens with these paintings? >> we do. we frame them. we sell them for $149.95 in our gift shop or on mystic aquarium.org. the profits go to our research and conservation efforts that we participate in south africa. >> we were just there. me, kim and mason went and met these penguins. we got to pet them. i learned they go to the bathroom all the time. and the aquarium was so cool. it was probably the best aquarium i've ever been to. >> thank you so much. i'm glad you had a great time there. >> it's so funny. did you dream this up this painting for penguins? >> it was an idea we had in the works for many beings many years. we decided to try it. other facilities do similar paintings, but we like to think our paintings are special.
>> these guys are 24 years old. is that normal for a penguin? >> that one is not moving. >> we can try with red silver to see if she will work. they generally live to be between 15 to 24 years ago. in zoos and aquariums, they'll live well into their mid to late 30s. >> and they mate only once, that's the story? there's one love? >> that's correct. they mate for life. i think people could learn a little lesson from penguins. >> we wish you great luck with this. >> coming up next, mayo, eggs and lemon sounds like a salad, but it's meant for your hair. >> then it's all about bad boys. why some women like them and won't settle down. with motionsense and...silver high heels. you should probably try this. what is it? degree deodorant. the more you move the more it works. ♪
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is myth or fact. lemon juice will turn your hair blonde. >> fact. i think. >> two facts. you're both wrong. it's a myth. >> no, it isn't. >> it will do nothing. the sun does the lightening and citric acid will do the work. >> people remind me you're egyptian. >> on vacations with my family when we were like 13, we did the lemon juice, kim and i. >> what happened? >> it would get dry. >> not a good idea. >> we are both bombing. >> mayonnaise can double as hair conditioner. >> i'm going to go with myth. >> all right. this is a myth. hoda wins. >> oh, my god.
>> hello. >> that is because it's really greasy. it ways down your hair and it smells really bad. it's gross to put mayo in your hair. a decent scalp conditioner, if you have a dry scalp, but a better natural remedy is olive oil. that's what i recommend. >> i just did a hair mask with olive oil, avocado, mayonnaise and egg. >> is this all yours, is this all real? >> a little bit of help in there. >> you don't ask a girl that. >> myth or fact. cold water makes your hair shiny. >> i'm going to say fact. >> fact. >> you're both right. >> it does? >> yeah. it closes the hair cuticle which enables it to reflect light better. that's why when you go to the hair salon they zap you with cold water at the end. it's something you can do at
home at the end of your shower. >> i used to do that in high school, but i forgot about it. now i'm bringing it back. >> your hair is going to be even shinier. hair will grow faster if you get regular trims. >> i think that's a myth. >> it is a myth. it's going to grow about 1/2 inch a month no matter what you do. if you want thick, amazing hair, watch what you eat, more protein and less heated styling tools because that breaks off the ends. >> what do you do without the tools? >> i don't know. you use the tools and condition extra. >> this is another one. the only cure for split ends is to nick them off with scissors. >> myth. >> you're right. >> what about all those conditioners that say they repair? >> they only do it temporarily. >> you are gullible, girl. >> all of them. >> you can use them and get regular trims. >> we should point out it's 3-3. this is the tiebreaker.
this is the last question we have time for. >> myth or fact, swimming pools can turn your hair green. >> swimming pools or what's in them? fact. >> both. all right. you guys are right. tiebreaker. >> one more. >> one more. if you pluck a gray hair three will sprout in its place. >> it's a myth. hoda wins. >> i didn't have the time to change it. >> she gets a prize. congratulations. >> thank you. >> take that to your make-up room. >> i'm going to parish this. i'm going to sleep with it tonight. >> i'm sure you will. thank you so much. >> next, bad, bad, bad, bad boys. can they be changed? what do you think? >> yeah. [ female announcer ] lactaid milk is easy to digest.
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we are in the middle of the show. kourtney got a text from her sister kim. we did a quiz at the top of the show. we were quizzing you on kris, your sister's husband. you said his shoe size was a 14. we said no it was a 12. kim is clarifying her husband's shoe size. >> and it is a 15, not a 12. >> which isn't even one of our options. is she sure? >> she's sure. she is going nuts. >> all right. >> she said, "i'm right." who did i beat? >> you beat everybody. >> yeah. bruce is still first. if you always go for the sexy, brooding type of giannone as the bad boy, you're familiar with the frustration of a broken heart that can come too often with that relationship. >> of course, we are doing this segment when i'm here. >> of course we are. >> we are here with nicole, executive editor of "cosmo"
magazine and a psychiatrist are here to explain. >> there is something intriguing about bad boys. is it that we think we can change them? is that the deal or are we just attracted to something else about them? >> they're a lot of fun because they're exciting. they are unpredictable. there is a time in your life when exciting and unpredictable is more important to you than stability and security. studies show women are more attractive to guys to look brooding and slouching and at odds with the world than guys who are smiling and eager to please. >> is that because you have to work for it? >> you have to work for it. we get a bigger reward when you win over a guy who is tough. >> absolutely. >> if a guy is easy to get. >> there is no challenge to it. human nature, the harder we have to work for it and the bigger reward. >> is scott a bad boy? >> i think he was a bad boy and definitely has bad boy moments. >> what do you like about that
kind of guy? >> i mean -- i don't know. you think a bad boy can change and be a responsible stable guy. i think it takes work. i think it's also just part of just growing up. i think if i met a bad boy and he was 45 years old and that's just how he was, i don't know that he would necessarily change. >> do you agree with that, if you're younger you have potential to change? >> absolutely. bad boys are on a continuum. they are bad boys because there was some hurt or loss by a woman who was important to them and the wall went up. never letting anybody get that close to hurting me again. as they mature and learn to deal with the process, they get less and less. >> sometimes don't you think you attract what's in you? you start attracting the type of person who you are, too. >> i think women at a certain age, maybe in their early 20s, they don't want to settle down. they're not ready. their own happiness and freedom
is more important to them than their relationship. i think they go after bad boys in a way to prevent themselves from getting attached. i think it's within them. >> i was definitely a bad girl -- >> really? >> when scott and i started getting together. we were like bonnie and clyde. >> you were? >> i swear. we were like a little like team of like -- then it's hard when one person grows and the other one doesn't. also scott was like 22 when we first met. i think he's definitely grown. >> true. >> that's the best case scenario. >> interesting info. thanks for coming to see us. next we'll talk baby gadgets. [ male announcer ] when these come together,
to sort out her favorite finds from travel gear to toys. >> some are these are your favorite toys. >> they are. >> these are fantastic for travel. kourtney, you said mason has these. they are called trunkies. they are part suitcase, part toy. kids can sit on these and ride themselves through the airport. it's a great invention. this is a fun travel bassinet. breaks down to five pounds. that's what mom wants. this is $99, but boy, is it worth it. because i bet you're traveling all the time and lightness counts. tub time. let's make it fub time. it's not always so great for the little ones. here is one amazing tub that is collapsable. it's from boone, on the off the presses from the kids' expo. >> what is this for? >> this is amazing. you put it on the baby's head so when you rinse no soap gets in the eyes. >> i love that.
>> this is magic. it is called the not teeny. the only thing we mild will let get near his head with to get out the tangles. it's amazing. >> how about that? >> that's $20. >> this is the cute corner. these are the things you say, oh, isn't that cute? organization. when you can marry storage that is stylish, you hit a her. these are so good looking. these can go in your living room. >> what are these for? >> anything from toys to laundry. >> aren't they adorable? let's talk about infant fashion. it's all about 3-d. from sesame street to "star wars." kourtney, i don't know if mason is a picky eater. do you spend hours making noises to get him to eat with the spoon? this makes noises for you. >> that is so cute. >> isn't it fun? genius. >> you don't have to make them yourself.
>> go get let's rock elmo. the hottest thing. >> he plays the bongos? >> he goes on and on. he's loud. he likes to rock. >> he's so cute. >> so tech time. kids love your ipad and blackberry. get the kids' version and save your own. lastly, things we wish we thought of. what do you wish you had when you were a new mom, a third arm maybe? >> exactly. >> now you do. this is the baby giraffe. it can hold the child's bottle. >> no way. >> amazing. then we've got this tandem stroller. there is stadium seating. you don't have to drive a big mack truck. >> this is amazing. push that button. >> this one? >> yep. >> i pushed it. this is unbelievable.
it's the oragami self-folding stroller. >> genius. >> you need this, kourtney, on your travel. >> back up again. thank you so much. we are going downstairs to listen to o.a.r. state farm. this is jessica. hey, jessica, jerry neumann with a policy question. jerry, how are you doing? fine, i just got a little fender bender. oh, jerry, i'm so sorry. i would love to help but remember, you dropped us last month. yeah, you know it's funny. it only took 15 minutes to sign up for that new auto insurance company but it's taken a lot longer to hear back. is your car up a pole again? [ crying ] i miss you, jessica! jerry, are you crying?
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all -- how do you stay relevant for so long snuff's been around for a while. >> we just do what we do and keep on working hard, putting out music and hoping it can reach as diverse a crowd as possible. >> the song you're about to sing is called? >> "heaven." >> it is a great song. i have it repeat on my ipod. take it away. thank you. ♪ ♪ underneath the dark of night ♪ out my window ♪ there's a million lights ♪ a thousand hearts feeling just like me ♪ feels like heaven out here in the streets ♪ and i know i've got a lot to learn ♪ breaking bottles only left me hurt ♪ playing with fire till i burned myself ♪ don't you know that love will take us somewhere else ♪ you take the left ♪ i'll take the right
♪ under rest we're under fire ♪ oh oh oh ♪ i don't want to go to heaven ♪ if i can't get in ♪ take the low ♪ i i'll take the high ♪ you lock the gate ♪ i here the quiet ♪ you got a problem with the way i live ♪ i don't want to go to heaven if i can't get in ♪ ♪ maybe i should take my time ♪ build this life by my own design ♪ with no direction and it's in between ♪ everything i love and everything i need ♪ ♪ so bring it back ♪ all i want is understanding ♪ live my life the way that i'm planning ♪ i wouldn't change a thing ♪ man it feels like heaven underneath my feet ♪ so you take the left ♪ i take the right ♪ under rest ♪ we're under fire ♪ oh oh oh ♪ i don't want to go to heaven
if i can't get in ♪ ♪ take the low i'll take the high ♪ you lock the gate ♪ i hear the quiet ♪ everybody got a problem the way i live ♪ i don't want to go to heaven if i can't get in ♪ ♪ raise them up ♪ all i ever wanted was a shot at your love ♪ i know ♪ i believe everything we've got is everything we need ♪ ♪ oh love will get you higher ♪ you set my heart on fire ♪ i know it's what you see ♪ i don't want to go to heaven if they don't want me ♪ ♪ if they don't want me ♪ i've got to be me ♪ i don't want to go to heaven if i can't get in ♪ ♪ raise them up raise them up ♪ everything you wanted is inside the cup ♪ love will get you higher
♪ when you're into me ♪ i never met no criminal ♪ i don't want to go to heaven if i can't get in ♪ ♪ take the left ♪ i'll take the right ♪ under rest ♪ we're under fire ♪ oh oh oh ♪ i don't want to go to heaven if i can't get in ♪ take the low ♪ i'll take the high ♪ you lock the gate ♪ i hear the quiet ♪ you got a problem with the way i live ♪ i don't want to go to go to heaven if i can't get in ♪ >> great job, guys! thank you, thank you. that was terrific. we really appreciate it. a big, big thank you for kourtney to be my host today. guess who tomorrow is? >> kim. >> sister kim is coming. we'll have emilio estevez
this is an nbc news special report. here's brian williams. >> good day. we're in washington today where in just a moment and not far from where we are now at the white house in the east room we will hear from president obama. he wants to try to return the focus to his preannounced jobs plan. he's had some plans to go on the road for a few days. a bus tour later this month. he will take questions today in the form of a formal east room news conference. standing by for us, our nbc news political director and chief white house correspondent, chuck todd. chuck, last we heard from the president last night, and we should mention this, a lengthy and heartfelt statement about the death of steve jobs, the creator of apple. >> reporter: it is. and the president has actually made mention a few times on how the ipad he has was personally
given to him before it was released by steve jobs. as for this press conference, this is sort of the latest in an attempt by the white house to find different forums to sell this jobs bill. he's been in campaign mode. you mentioned the bus trip he's got coming up in a couple of week. he went down to texas the other day. he went to that bridge a couple weeks ago that straddled the home states of kentucky and ohio. this is yet another way of trying to make sure, get into the conversation, trying to sell it. there will be more details that will air today. there's actually movement on capitol hill for this legislation. senate democrats have come up with a different way to pay for it. we'll hear the president's reaction to that. a millionaire's sur tax to find the half trillion dollars needed in order to pay for this job's infrastructure bill. >> chuck, as you take your seat, the wooden doors open. the president comes to the podium to talk to the news