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long ago for the same reason. >> traceee wilkins has the details. >> reporter: last time they said it looked like the source of the bacteria was water inside the hospital in the nicu. now they say they don't know where it's coming from. today we watched an ambulance from children's national medical center transport the last of five babies being nicu. hospital spokesmen say they began transporting babies this morning after 8:00 a.m. this after two newborns tested positive for a potentially deadly bacteria for infants with
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the prince georges hospital center has been shut down again after two infants tested positive for a potentially deadly bacteria. this is the same nicu closed for two months not long ago. prince georges medical center hospital spokesman saying at this time there is no environmental indication or defined cause for the latest bacteria presence. out of an abundance of caution pghc made the decision to temporarily close the nicu. a grandmother said this. >> the nicu they shouldn't have re-opened it the first time. >> reporter: we asked officials here at the hospital to speak on camera about what's happening here. they say they are not prepared to release any on camera statements today. we could hear from them tomorrow. back to you all in the studio. >> thank you. four things to know about the bacteria pseudomonas. it is found in soil, plants and
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it is usually spread on the hands of workers or dirty equipment. it is also found in moisture in drainpipes or feeding tubes. >> it has been almost three months since that deadly explosion at the flower branch apartments in silver spring. it killed they smelled gas before the explosion. they are demanding answer. >> we have asked for information from washington gas. they have delayed and danced around our demands long enough. >> residents say the lawsuit
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>> well, the federal investigation into the cause of the explosion could take a year. to try to get answers now some of the residents have a team of lawyers working with them. >> what do we want? >> justice. >> when do we want it? >> now. >> reporter: casa, brought some of the members of the explosion and fire in the district. lawsuits have been filed on
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their homes. >> they lost everything when the explosion happened. they left barefoot with nothing. >> reporter: sophia and her children live in fear that it could happen again. >> they are always anxious. they can't sleep well. >> reporter: the lawsuits blame washington gas and cane management for negligence. when residents reported smelling gas weeks before the explosion. one lawsuit is for wrongful death to compensate the families seriously injured. the other lawsuit is for those who lost their homes and now live with traumatic stress. >> they lost their belongings. more is the impact, the impression it caused on them, what they went through. >> we requested and received comments from washington gas and the management group. they basically say because they are working with the ntsb on the
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the cause, the investigation or any lawsuits that are filed in connection with the explosion. coming up at 6:00, we'll hear what they have to say in response to complaints from the residents about the living conditions in the apartments and their safety concerns. wendy, back to you. >> chris gordon. a short time ago we checked in with the sheriff's office in stafford county about the roadside sexual assault from despite some good clues investigators tell us they have no one in custody. another driver runs into her when she pulls over he pulled her out of the window and dragged her into a ditch where he sexually assaulted her for two hours. the suspect left his plaid shirt behind. he's believed to be driving a
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to the race for the white house now. just six days before election day. both donald trump and hillary clinton are criss-crossing the country hoping to shore up support and move the meter for undecided voters. new data from target smart shows more than 29 million people have already cast early ballots. just a day after trump stopped in wisconsin clinton has a 46-40%. tomorrow, trump will deploy his wife for her first solo campaign event. melania trump will deliver a get out the vote speech in philadelphia, the suburbs there. her first speech since that convention speech. hillary clinton meanwhile made a surprise stop this morning in a neighborhood in ft. lauderdale early. she met with supporters near an early voting location. clinton is headed to las vegas now where she'll have an event
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of arizona tonight which is extremely close. earlier today president obama made a stop for clinton in chapel hill, north carolina, telling voters there the importance of their state. >> i hate to put pressure on you, but the fate of the republic rests on your shoulders. the fate of the world is teetering and you, north carolina, are going to have to make sure that we push it in the ht >> trump said clinton has no one to blame but herself for the e-mail controversy. he brought up the proposed wall and what he calls a crisis at the border. >> if hillary clinton were to be elected it would create an
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figure that i'm going to win. they are racing across the border. i'm sorry to do it to you. >> trump's campaign rejected an endorsement by a newspaper affiliated with the ku klux klan calling the paper repulsive. trump was criticized previously for failing to endorse by duke. >> voting irregulariies include fraud, bribing voters, buying and selling votes. if you notice anything seems wrong to you, you can report it directly to the u.s. torrey pines's office in alexandra. they have specific prosecutors assigned and available as long as the polls are open. as early voting continues election officials are helping voters cast their absentee
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many of you might be surprised at the voters in one particular location. >> reporter: most jails in the united states don't go to these lengths but at the d.c. jail voting is nothing new. >> we have done it for the last three, four election cycles. we are only one of three jurisdictions that offers voting to inmates. >> reporter: these inmates who voted earlier today took the time to show news 4 how they of a nonpartisan poll observer. >> it's fair that we can be part of the community to voice our constitution and that our vote still counts. >> reporter: both men agreed it was important for them to vote for several reasons. >> it's important for all the black people, the young black people to vote. the majority don't vote.
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>> not only are inmates allowed to vote. every inmate is given a voter registration card when they are first admitted to the jail, just like when you get a driver's license. >> we want to involve everybody in the franchise. >> when i tweeted this picture of two inmates voting, some people were surprised and even angered that inmates would get this special treatment. some questioning why d.c. would allow felons to vote. fact is d.c. have completed the sentence. most of those at the d.c. jail aren't convicted of anything. like the men we spoke with who are being held while they are awaiting trial. >> it shouldn't be surprising at all. we are still a part of, though we have been temporarily removed we are part of the community regardless of our circumstances and situation. >> reporter: at the d.c. jail mark seagraves, news4. >> a nice warm day across the
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we are pretty much hot across the region, especially to the west of i-95. take a look outside now. haze in the atmosphere. you can look at the live tower camera as we move to the north here. looking at a lot of color in the area now. take a look at the current temperatures. 75 degrees in elkins. 82 in roanoke. we have 80s in the region and 75 in d.c. through the next couple of days we expect more warmth tomorrow. ne storms. then much cooler air by the end of the week into the weekend. i will break it down for you. see you here at 5:25. >> an alarming trend in local schools with class sizes growing the number of male teachers is shrinking. just how much may surprise you. >> people are remembering the bus driver who was killed in the deadly crash in baltimore. we have the latest for you on the investigation into what caused it. >> a land deal could mean big changes for commuters.
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of a georgetown landmark gas station. mm, tacos. one of our most shared stories on social media. even the president is talking about it. we'll tell you how to get free tacos today. the story is in our app and on the nbc washin vo: here's the last thing washington needs. amie hoeber. a reckless tea party partisan. threatening cancer screening. said she'd invade iraq again if given the chance, and hoeber has fought for a global increase of chemical weapons. we need john delaney. a family man and entrepreneur, he built two respected maryland business, creating thousands of jobs. in congress, he puts working for us ahead of partisan politics. john: i'm john delaney
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new information about the breaking news. 30 students were taken to the hospital to be checked out after a pepper spray incident on a bus at watkins mill elementary school in montgomery village here. montgomery county fire and ems say all the kids are expected to be okay. the transports were just precaution their. more than 50 students were on the bus at no word on how this began. we'll follow the story on the app. >> maryland schools are running low on male teachers. the problem is detailed in a memo obtained by news 4. the extent of the shortage may surprise you. scott? >> reporter: good evening, wendy. the number of students in the
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so quickly rising a number of men signing up to teach them is not. according to new state records reviewed today by news 4. >> we ent over how to do it last class. >> reporter: this is matt weissman's first year teaching. he has a degree in biology but is one of the few if not the only man in his college chemistry class interested in teaching. >> raise your hand if you want to be a a dentist, 40. a teacher. me and three other kids. >> reporter: his principal says he gets plenty of applicants, but -- >> the vast majority of applicants are female. 7 of 8 applicants we receive are female. >> reporter: a review of public schools conducted four and submitted to maryland officials find four of every five teachers hired statewide last year were women.
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shortage of men in public school classrooms, a growing problem recruiters noticed they have been trying to fix. >> undergrad programs aren't producing as many people who are interested in education. it is our job as a school system to say we need you. >> reporter: maryland officials changed some of the rules in public schools. in some districts retired teachers can be rehired and some college students who choose teaching will qualify for extra financial incentives and loan assistance. >> we discussed the order of the planets in the solar system. >> reporter: maryland's schools are running short on new teachers like matt weissman. >> kids who need a male role model benefit from that. >> reporter: men aren't the only teachers in short supply now in our area.
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headaches. that part of the story tonight on news 4 at 6:00. for now live in germantown, scott macfarlane. news 4. back to you. >> thank you. this happened this morning along king street here. the victim taken to the hospital with nonlife threatening injuries. if you have any information, you are urged to contact police. an update to the possible abduction at a woodbridge walmart we told you about over the weekend. the people involved appear to have filmed the incident and later posted it on youtube. investigators say no criminal activity was committed. no charges will be filed. the wizards are playing the home opener tonight at the verizon center after a shaky start to the season one player already calling the game a must win.
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jason? >> reporter: it's definitely a must win. you don't hear players use the term often, especially this early in the season. just the third regular season game of 82 for the wizards. seeing how the team ended the year last season falling three games short of making the playoffs they understand the importance of the early basketball games here to start the season. the 0-2 start not the way head coach scott brooks envisioned his first year on the job with the wizards. following this game we'll take on the atlanta hawks who contributed to the poor start this season. home fans not the only one desperate to see a victory. they are embracing the must win comments. >> we want to get a win.
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protect the house and it is a must win for us. >> we're going to start a season 0-3. it's going oh be a tough schedule. if we want to make players, we have to start winning games. >> we'll see if the wizards can pick up their first win of the season. we can watch the game. coming up we'll hear from our good friend and play b voice. >> that's all for me here at the verizon center. i'm jason pugh, news 4 sports. >> a live look at progressive field in cleveland where the winner of the world series will be determined just a few hours. perhaps several hours from now. cleveland hoping for a hometown win after a crushing 9-3 loss to the cubs in game six last night. the indians haven't won a world series since 1948. for chicago, it has been more than a century.
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the ticket prices up to the average resale of tickets. amazing. >> a local woman spends years waiting for a tax refund. >> it never came until susan hogan got involved. what she found out when she asked the irs what's taking so long. >> i'm tom sherwood. is the tenor and tone of the presidential election getting you down? there are some places like the
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just a beautiful wednesday across the area. 50s. all depends on where you are. plenty of sunshine. look at the fall color in full effect now across much of the area. maybe the last weekend of nice color. winds from the south. well above average but look at the numbers here. it depends on where you are. near 80 in leesburg.
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and the potomac. tomorrow will be warmer. 72 around 6:00. driving down into the 60s. 62 at midnight really unheard of. it doesn't happen often. we'll see rain tomorrow. you need to take the umbrella. most of the day you're not going to need it.
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that's going to come tomorrow as well. not early. tomorrow morning we start at a very nice pace. by noon, still looking good around the region. starting to see the cloud cover move in. we see the showers, a rumble of thunder or two around 5:00 or 6:00. this will come right during the evening rush. this is something we have been we have been talking about. it may slow things down. out of here by 8:00 tomorrow night. i'm calling tomorrow a a great start. take the umbrella. low to moderate and cooler with breezy conditions late in the day. it will be cooler tomorrow night. high of only 60 on friday. saturday morning, 45 degrees. 61 on saturday. sunday, daylight saving time. you can sleep an extra hour saturday night into sunday morning. perfect if you are coming to the washington monument.
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walk. 9:00 a.m. start. we'll walk around 9:30, 10:00. in the 50s. cool but nice with mostly sunny skies. the rest of the ten-day forecast. the drama of this year's presidential election, a lot of stress, a lot of divisiveness, animosity. ahead, the plans already in the works to help us come together and move on the day after. plus, charting a new pathway to health and the help coming to one under served community. a gas station goes away, but the story is much more than just a gas station. find out what's going in its
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we must give every child a great education, build an economy that works for everyone, end tax breaks for companies that move our jobs overseas. by working together, democrats and republicans, we can do these things. that's why we must defeat those who want to turn americans against one another. i'm chris van hollen, and i approve this message, because united,
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>> you're watching news 4 at 5:00. >> there are some that stand out a little bit more than others. we are about to lose the key bridge exxon. our transportation reporter adam tuss live in georgetown with a look at the impact it will have on me and other people who use that one. >> a new condo building here. we talk to a lot of them who are sad to see their gas station go. the bottom line, change is
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you than you might think. >> let's call it the ode to the key bridge exxon. >> i will be most disappointed about losing my favorite gas station. the one that i can stop by on the way out of town. yes, the gas station that is next to been sold. some say it was just a matter of time. >> we want growth. we want tax money. we're going to get it. >> reporter: georgetown is losing a number of gas stations to new development. not everyone is upset. >> personally, i'm not dissatisfied and here's why. two years ago we gave up our car. i go around on a bicycle. there are a lot of ways to get places fast with a bike.
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people in georgetown could put added stress on already crawling roads. >> we have a couple of one way street here. if we had more people would be moving along. >> some call it the end of an era. construction slated to start next year. the key bridge exxo gone. as people gas up at the key bridge exxon while they can ahead at 6:00 remember the georgetown gondola project? this development actually has a direct connection to that. tell you about it next hour. >> interesting. not the gondolas but any word on how much the condos are going for? how many units? >> what are they starting at?
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first pick. prime view of the water. 20 condos. the final designs are being made still. there are a number of buildings right above here. they were worried about the view being blocked but they will keep it low. get your order in now. >> you get the sun sets on the water. >> i just want parking. >> thanks, adam. cool. >> you got it. >> in prince georges county, a new health center with a goal to provide preventative and community. it is a partnership between la clinica del pueblo and the state and local hospital. >> having the ability to reach those who speak english as a second language who are uninsured and under insured is critical to us. critical to making and pushing prince georges county forward. >> the health center will focus on a holistic approach to health
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partnership is bringing together the inova health system with the university of virginia. a new deal will bring them together to collaborate on research and recruitment. among the plans building a cancer research institute that could achieve a designation as a comprehensive cancer center. the pair also hopes to allow uva med students to complete clerkships at facilities throughout finalized details are expected later this year. >> in the race for the white house donald trump pushing for votes in what could be a must win for him in florida. trump has three campaign events today. at an earlier rally he told supporters he believes he's ahead but wants them to prevend he's behind so they will go vote. in the next hour we expect to see hillary clinton campaigning in las vegas. clinton who campaigned across florida yesterday made one quick
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lauderdale area. later tonight we see clinton in what's normally reliably red arizona. >> this election season in particular is straining relationships. you may be feeling the stress this november. news 4's tom sherwood shares what you can do about it. >> are you ready to work hard an win this election? >> we are going to win back the white house. >> reporter: the final days, th friends or family members sharply disagreeing. are you finding that in your family or friend circle? >> yeah. with my brother. he's yelling at me and hung up on me, yeah. >> reporter: with so much strain on civility we sought out a place of peace for guidance. the washington national cathedral. >> we feel as many do that this has been a bruising political
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relationships. >> reverend buddy asked churches in the area to focus on reconciliation on wednesday after the election. the cathedral's regular morning, noon and nighttime services that day will be different. we are dedicating those services to prayers for healing and looking forward as a people, as a nation post election. >> the public opinion strategies company did an october focus group on what it c voting for different candidates. points of contention among friends. >> some people vote for hillary. some vote for trump. different opinions. everybody has a different opinion. >> reporter: are people being polite about it? >> no. i don't think so. >> reporter: election day is days away. play nice. tom sherwood, news 4. >> high school rivals joining forces in northern virginia. the cause that will bring the two schools together on a
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>> and hiring our heroes. how american businesses are doing when it comes to bringing veterans into the work force. you're watching news 4 at 5:00. >> tomorrow morning on news 4 today, learning rocket science in high school? >> i want to be an aerospace engineer. >> check out the school giving teens a chance to shoot for the stars. >> plus, rain is on the way. i have the latest timing and i
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tonight we get to meet another of barbara harrison's wednesday's kids. >> this one loves history and sports. barbara? >> that's right. caleb is anxious to do well in everything he tries. he's a little bit concerned about putting himself out there when it comes to wanting an adopted home. he really hopes to someday soon be with a family who wants him and will love him. he mentioned baseball as one of his favorite the other day. hey. alexander! >> how you doing? >> i want you to meet caleb. >> nice to meet you, man. welcome. >> caleb is interested in baseball, among other things. >> reporter: here at the dynasty baseball facility they specialize in improving a player's game. >> we have three bullpens for hitting and pitching. >> reporter: caleb has more impressive goals. what do you think you would like to be when you grow up? >> navy s.e.a.l. >> reporter: he's excited about the possible missions he could
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>> you're there for a reason. you want to protect the country. >> he said he wants to join the military after high school. >> reporter: caleb's social worker has been working with him since he came into the system three years ago. >> do you have a favorite subject? >> history. >> he's an avid reader. >> reporter: for sports he likes it all and he was invited to test his skill practice shirts. >> reporter: they started with catching. >> nice. >> reporter: then tossing. >> good! >> reporter: batting. >> very good. he's got a lot of power. great hand-eye coordination. >> reporter: caleb proved his coordination works on the basketball court as well. he wants a family that appreciates his strengths and will help him to reach higher and who will love him. >> just a loving, patient home. a very committed home that will
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teach him how to be an adult, move him through life, parent him into the future. >> reporter: he's a great kid. if you have room in your home and your heart for caleb or another child who's waiting call 888-to adopt me or search wednesday's child on nbc washington, our app. >> quite athletic. >> yes. very smart, too. >> thanks sh barb. >> years and how our susan hogan was able to help. >> reporter: the latest on what
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y25emy y17vy vo: here's the last thing washington needs. amie hoeber. a reckless tea party partisan. hoeber will defund planned parenthood,
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and hoeber has fought for a global increase of chemical weapons. we need john delaney. a family man and entrepreneur, he built two respected maryland business, creating thousands of jobs. in congress, he puts working for us ahead of partisan politics. john: i'm john delaney
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if you're just tuning in this is a look at what you missed. >> i'm mark seagraves outside the d.c. jail where more than 60 inmates were allowed to vote. d.c. is one of the few jurisdictions in the country that facilitates early voting inside correctional facilities for inmates. not only do they do that, but every time an inmate is admitted to the d.c. jail, they are allowed to register to vote.
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unit. it houses premature babies. it's being shut down for a second time this year. because of a potentially dangerous bacteria. two lawsuits filed today by people at the silver spring apartment complex destroyed by a natural gas explosion this summer. >> the investigation into the deadly bus crash in baltimore is focused on just one person now. >> that person died in the crash along with five others. any concrete clues about just what happened. >>. >> reporter: traffic in southwest baltimore flowed normally today. the scene of the horrific bus crash was cleared. also remembered with a makeshift me mother-in-law to the victims. -- memorial to the victims. six people died in the crash when a yellow school bus first
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it was the number 10 bus, a popular line. the investigation focuses on the 67-year-old driver of the school bus, among those who died. police say it will take weeks. a key witness is on the bus and not seriously injured. what seems obvious, the rate of speed. >> safe to say the vehicle was going a if you saw the destruction it wasn't caused by a slow moving vehicle. the work will look at broader safety issues. the mayor welcomes the work. >> the way the bus was crushed, it just looked like it was blown to bits like matchsticks.
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positive comes from this enormous tragedy. >> reporter: better protection for bus passengers is already on the ntsb list of most wanted safety improvements. >> american businesses are doing a better job hiring veterans. but need to do more to help them make the transition to civilian employment. that's a study from the chamber of commerce on hiring our heroes. they found americ three priority. 70% provide special assistance to vets during on boarding but just 20% have training to help civilians late to the vet. they found that can translate to higher job turnover, full disclosure, nbc universal is a partner of the hiring for heroes initiative. nbc 4 responds to a tax
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woman contacted the consumer response team to find out what was taking the government so long. >> that's right. nearly three years after she filed her taxes, her refund still never came. you won't believe what the irs initially told her was the reason for the delay. fed up, waiting for the feds to respond she turned to nbc 4 responds for results. >> the money was something i really needed. >> emma never received her 2014 taxfu about 3,000 dollars. >> i called the irs. i started asking questions. >> reporter: new to virginia she made sure to hire a certified public accountant and filed her return electronically. she never received her refund. she called the irs multiple times. >> you call and call and it's for hours, no end. the phone keeps holding you with music. i didn't get anyone to help me
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compromised. >> reporter: thinking she was a victim of identity theft emma immediately closed her credit cards, bank account and went back to her maiden name. more time passed and still nothing from the irs. emma sent them a letter asking what to do next. >> no response. responded to me saying i needed further proof of my income. >> reporter: now emma was confused. she thought this was an issue of return. >> reporter: no mention that her identity was compromised. >> never again. i have four or five letters from them. each was different. >> reporter: the final letter stated she never filed her 2014 taxes. >> i'm frantic now. >> i gave up. i was watching the news and i saw the great report.
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>> we asked the irs about tax return although they would not discuss specific cases about her the irs was working on the case. not long after emma heard from the fed and learned it was actually her cpa who made a mistake by entering the wrong income and deductions on emma's return. nearly three years later, emma finally received more than $5,000. her refund plus intert. i was on time playing my taxes. >> got to love the interest there. if you have a consumer problem you need help solving let us know. you can open up our nbc washington app and search responds. >> thanks, susan. >> what a spectacular day. we have another on the way? >> nice. >> we have another nice day tomorrow. we have plenty of sunshine overall today. more clouds in the forecast tomorrow.
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tomorrow afternoon into the evening hours there will be rain around. you need it when leaving work. after that it's crisp and pleasant friday into the weekend. next week just about every day in the 60s and dry. our only chance of rain over the next ten days will be tomorrow. right now, spectacular.
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rain is moving in. showers start to come to an end around 7:00 p.m. at that point we are at 67 degrees. i want to show you the timing on future weather. look here. i'm starting you at noon. we are still dry. it's spectacular. between 2:00 and 3:00 we see rain moving into the area first around urbana, walkersville, ash burn, sterling, damascus, clks washington area and southern maryland. by 5:00 p.m. we have showers in parts of the district and montgomery county down to charles county, down around the fredricksburg area. by 8:00 we start to dry out. friday night football will be chilly. but dry. on friday, a high only around 60. during the evening hours, as you are heading out, kicking off the weekend we'll have temperatures generally in the 50s. that's warm jacket weather. a little bit of a breeze as well.
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60 on friday. we have election day on tuesday if you haven't heard. high temperature of 69 and the weather having a low impact as you head to the polls. >> what election? >> what? who knew? >> i just put it on the calendar. >> they are rivals in the classroom and on the field. coming up, how these competing schools are coming together to raise heated debate over plans to build a new mosque in vginia.
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northern virginia, on the issues, barbara comstock and donald trump are the same. comstock and trump promote deportation and reject any comprehensive both oppose background checks that keep guns from suspected terrorists. and comstock-trump were prepared to shut down the government just for politics. time for luann bennett: comprehensive immigration reform now. common sense gun safety laws. bennett tells congress: do your job. i'm luann bennett
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friends and loved ones of a man shot by d.c. police are drawing attention to the shooting. officers shot mark george after police responded to a call of shots fired. police chased george. investigators say he pulled supporters of george want people to tweet and post about this case, at least two times a day until they get answers. rival schools in louden county joining forces to change minds about teenage suicide. >> tomorrow wood grove and louden valley come together for a powder puff football game to raise money and awareness. news 4's pat law son has the story. >> reporter: in march of 2015 i
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was put in a mental hospital for a few weeks. i lost two friends to suicide. it means a lot to be here and have people raise money for awareness. >> reporter: brianna survived her attempt but many don't. students started a competition to raise awareness of help and hope vablg. >> all the proceeds of the game go toward the louden friends of mental health awareness foundation. it is so much more t a football game. it has a deeper purpose to it. >> reporter: raising awareness seems to be working. >> kids are open now to say what can i do to keep from reaching that point and what can i do to help my fellow student not reach that point. >> reporter: thursday's game begins at 7:00 p.m. at wood grove high. the money fuels efforts to raise awareness and keep the conversation going.
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better. to know they are there for me makes me happy. >> for help and resources on mental illness search changing minds in the nbc washington app. >> announcer: news 4 at 6:00 starts now. >> tonight at 6:00, new national polls show the race to the white house is tightening. just six days before election day. both hillary clinton and donald trump are pouring millions of dollars into tv ads and ramping up their attacks in key battleground states. >> this is the home stretch of a long drawn out race. we have team coverage of it all
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