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>> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night withseth meyers." tonight larry david, star of "designated survivor," actor kiefer sutherland, former obama white house press secretary, josh earnest, featuring the 8g band with gregg bissonette. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, seth meyers. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: good evening, i'm seth meyers, this is "late night." how is everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] that is fantastic to hear. in that case, let's get to the news. today was president trump's 250th day in office. or as he put it, "longer than any president in history." [ laughter ] "we
senate republicans announced today they will not hold a vote on the graham-cassidy bill to repeal and replace obamacare, after they were unable to secure enough support. but republicans plan to come back with a new plan, where they just slash the tires on all the ambulances. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] going to give it one more try. we think this is the plan. president trump said today that getting relief efforts to puerto rico after the devastation caused by hurricane maria is tough because it's an island. and then, proving he just learned it, yelled, "but rhode island isn't!" makes you think. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] after president trump called for pro athletes to be fired if they didn't stand for the national anthem, nike released a statement yesterday in support of athletes and their right to freedom of expression. then they introduced a new line
[ laughter ] president trump has tweeted over twice as much about the nfl in the last 24 hours as he has about the hurricane relief crisis in puerto rico. it got so bad, he started to cover both in the same tweet. [ laughter ] according to politico, house democrats are launching a probe of white house senior adviser, jared kushner, after he used a private e-mail account for work purposes. let's take a quick look at hillary clinton's reaction to this news. [ laughter ] >> seth: she'll be fine. [ cheers and applause ] during a campaign event last night in alabama, senate hopeful, roy moore, appeared on stage in a cy
and brandished a pistol. look at the size of that gun! [ laughter ] is he compensating for a huge penis? [ laughter ] a new poll has found that 84% of likely voters in new jersey want their senator, robert menendez to step down if found guilty on charges of bribery. but he's willing to step down right now if they make it worth his while. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] four hikers were rescued from england's highest mountain this weekend after they smoked too much marijuana to travel back themselves. [ laughter ] even crazier, this is england's highest mountain. [ laughter ] [ applause ] "it's a bit -- it's a bit steep. it's a bit too steep and somewhat cold.
[ laughter ] a sri lanka man has been arrested for trying to smuggle $29,000 worth of gold and jewelry inside his rectum. his lawyer says he'll walk, but his doctor is not so sure. [ laughter ] [ applause ] yeah. yeah. [ cheers and applause ] bravo! to gold in your rectum! [ applause ] may you all have it! spacex ceo elon musk this friday will unveil updates to his plans to colonize mars. "but when do we leave," asked one woman. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] and finally, a clerk at an ohio gas station was recently hit in the face with a slushy after telling a customer he could not use his food stamps to buy gas,
[ laughter ] ladies and gentlemen we have a fantastic show for you tonight. [ cheers and applause ] you know him from hbo's "curb your enthusiasm." i'm so happy he's here. larry david is joining us here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] how about that? he's the star of abc's "designated survivor." our friend, kiefer sutherland is back on the show. [ cheers and applause ] and i'm going to chat with the former obama white house press secretary and a political analyst for nbc news and msnbc. josh earnest is here tonight. [ cheers and applause ] so you're here on a good night! before we get to that, puerto rico is in the midst of an epic humanitarian crisis after being struck by hurricane maria. most of the island is without electricity or clean drinking water. people are desperate and terrified. and the situation is only going to get worse in the coming days and weeks. so naturally, president trump tweeted last night that puerto rico has an old electrical grid, which was in terrible shape and that they owe money to wall street and the
dealt with. which brings us to a segment we call, "hey!" ♪ [ cheers and applause ] hey! don't go after puerto rico for their financial problems now! victims of tragedy aren't looking for real talk. you don't start a eulogy by saying, "well, the guy never exercised." [ laughter ] and hey, weren't you the guy who was going to put americans before wall street? you couldn't even do that in a tweet. people don't even have clean drinking water and your first instinct is to tell them they owe money. what are you, some kind of [ bleep ] landlord? oh, right, you were a [ bleep ] landlord. [ cheers and applause ] hey, thank god -- thank god you didn't go to vietnam. i can see it now. "trump, i'm hit! get the medic!" "you still owe me $20." [ laughter ] and, hey, it took you a full week before you even sent someone to check out the situation. for a guy with such a crooked
last responder. [ laughter ] you're like the guy who says he'll help his friend move and then just shows up at the end for pizza. [ light laughter ] and, hey, puerto ricans are americans. they use american currency and carry american passports. there's an applebee's in san juan and americans in san juan go there to get disappointed by american food. [ laughter ] you wanted to make america great again, so i'll say it again, puerto rico is america. they're included in the whole "make america great again" thing. though let's be honest, some puerto ricans are already as great as it gets. this has been "hey." ♪ [ cheers and applause ] we'll be right back with larry david, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] ♪
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] seth: welcome back and please give it up for the 8g band right over there. [ cheers and applause ] also back with us tonight, he's one of the most versatile drummers in the world. he currently plays with ringo starr and his all-star band. ringo has a new album out, "give more love" that is available now along with a fall tour, which kicks off october 13th in las vegas. gregg bissonette, everybody. thank you so much for being here. [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you for having me, seth. >> seth: we're very pleased to have you. our first guest tonight is an emmy and golden globe
and one of the funniest people on the planet. his show "curb your enthusiasm" makes its highly anticipated return to hbo on sunday, october 1st at 10:00 p.m. let's take a look. >> oh, the baby! >> yeah. >> you got a picture? >> boom. there you go. >> whoa! oh! beautiful! >> huh? >> lucky man. >> thank you so much. she's my greatest treasure. >> you know, she looks a little asian. [ light laughter ] >> um, what are you -- what does that mean? >> she has a look -- a little asian look about her. >> i feel like you're maybe saying something's -- something's off about her -- >> i'm not saying -- something's on about her. it's good. it's a good thing. >> uh-huh. >> that's a compliment. >> how so? >> she's exotic. i wish i looked a little asian. [ laughter ] >> seth: please welcome to the show, larry david, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] ♪
>> seth: thank you for being here. >> hello, people! hello, my friends, my -- oh, stop it. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: so happy. they're so happy you're here. how are you? how are you doing? >> eh. >> seth: yeah? [ laughter ] >> eh. >> seth: just eh? >> eh. you know, okay, i guess. >> seth: all right. >> what am i supposed to say? great? you know. >> seth: a lot of people say great. >> hate those people. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] >> they stick a "great" on you right away? >> seth: uh-huh. >> you don't do that. >> seth: why? what's the -- >> it's rude! it's rude. [ light laughter ] oh, so i'm inferior to you because you're great. and what, i'm not so great, i guess. >> seth: maybe also, two people can be great at the same time. >> i don't think so. you don't say that in polite society. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] >> and if you really want to draw it out on me, okay, i'm pretty damn good. >> seth: all right, good. thank you. [ laughter ] thank you for your honesty. [ cheers and applause ] >> how does that make you feel? >> seth: i feel -- >> how are you? >> seth: i'm happy. i'm happy on your behalf. >> are you happy? >> seth: i am! >> i don't think so. [ light laughter ] i think you're a little jealous. >> seth:ll
am a little jealous. >> i do. i feel you're a little jealous. >> seth: you know, i have to say this. you've not been here before, but you've been discussed on this show before. you have come up. other guests have mentioned you. >> mmm. yes, yes, i -- >> seth: do you know who i'm referring to? >> well, i have seen one of those guests. >> seth: mm-hmm. >> in the person of jennifer lawrence. >> seth: yeah. >> and -- [ light cheering ] she sat right here. and she said she had a crush on you. >> seth: uh-huh. >> and she said she also had a crush on me. >> seth: yes, she did. [ laughter ] >> and when you -- when you heard that she had a crush on me, as well -- [ laughter ] you seemed quite displeased that we were lumped together. [ laughter ] >> seth: i -- you know -- >> as if that detracted from the ego trip that you were on. yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: i do remember that. >> yes. >> seth: i recall that reaction. >> yeah. >> seth: and then having a great shame about that reaction. >> yeah. >> seth: and then, you know, i wake up in the middle of the night, and shaking my wife awake, and said, "i did an awful thing." i -- y
i was expecting a call. [ laughter ] the call never came, yeah. >> seth: but you were happy to be lumped together with me? wouldn't you rather -- >> look, i'm not going to lie. [ light laughter ] it would have been better if it was just me. [ laughter ] when she said you, i, too, was disappointed. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] because we both much would rather, if it was -- >> sure. >> seth: you plus george clooney -- >> yeah. >> seth: then you feel that you're now this -- >> no, i don't want george clooney in the picture, either. >> seth: okay. [ laughter ] you just want nothing -- >> i wanted me. >> seth: yeah. >> just me. to me it takes away from the crush if she's mentioning other people. >> seth: yeah. >> how special is it then for me? >> seth: yeah. >> it's not special. [ light laughter ] >> seth: right. >> you've got a crush on me, you've got a crush on him. >> seth: yeah. >> no good! [ laughter ] >> seth: right, i see. you want the one -- you want a solo crush. >> i want the big crush. yeah. >> seth: yeah. all right. well, we'll have to let her know that this isn't working for either of us. [ laughter ] we saw each other at the "snl" 40th. >> yeah. >> seth: which for me, next to my wedding, was as memorable a night as i've ever had as far as so many people
event?. >> no, not really. >> seth: okay. >> no. [ laughter ] yeah, i left -- i went to the party after. i left after about 45, 50 minutes. >> seth: very early to leave the party like that. >> yes. and then afterwards, the next day, i found out, oh, right after you left, paul mccartney sang, and bruce springsteen, the rolling stones and john lennon came back from the dead. [ laughter ] you know. you know, good things seem to happen when i leave. [ light laughter ] >> seth: okay. >> no matter where i am, wonderful things take place after i'm gone. like, it's not uncommon for me to get a call the next day after a party. "after you left, you're crazy, i don't know why you left. but four women took their clothes off and jumped in the pool!" you know. [ laughter ] >> "it was a bacchanal! you missed a bacchanal." [ light laughter ] >> seth: you -- i did not realize this about you, because i -- it strikes me that you know what you like -- you're very specific about what you like. but you are indecisive? is this true? >> oh, my god, yes. >> seth: yeah. >> um -- >> seth: where does that indecision most play out in your life? >> well, whether or not i was
[ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> you know, they -- larry, they want you to do "seth meyers." ehh. [ laughter ] ehh -- i don't know, maybe. yeah, absolutely. >> seth: yeah. >> very indecisive. >> seth: well, i'm glad you decided to come. >> thank you, thank you. >> seth: how are you feeling about this decision? >> not good. >> seth: yeah. >> not good. [ laughter ] >> when i used to -- when i had an apartment in new york and i didn't have any money, i couldn't decide what to eat. i would go to the corner of 43rd street and 9th avenue. i would stand there for 15 minutes thinking of the five restaurants that i could afford to go to. and then i -- it was so overwhelming, i had to go back and go home. >> seth: that was it? >> that was it. >> seth: you couldn't even pick a restaurant. >> i couldn't pick the restaurant. yeah. >> seth: you're back here for the premier of the show -- coming from brooklyn, growing up in brooklyn. do you have any nostalgia for being back in new york? [ laughter ] no nostalgia for your youth? >> i don't get that way. you could put me back in my old bed, it wouldn't make a di
yeah. [ laughter ] no, brooklyn was a good place to grow up, though. you know. >> seth: how so? >> well, it was fun. you know, you played baseball on concrete. that was fun. [ laughter ] but there's no nature in brooklyn. you know, the only grass i ever saw was on the divider of the belt parkway. [ laughter ] >> seth: uh-huh. >> that was it. and you know, there were no flowers. just artificial ones. and artificial fruit. every apartment had artificial flowers and artificial fruit. people took great pride in their artificial fruit. [ laughter ] the greatest compliment you could give someone is to take a bite of their artificial fruit. [ laughter ] accidentally thinking it was real fruit. they would go crazy. they would remember for years. "larry, remember the time you took a bite of the apple? the artificial apple?" [ laughter ] you know. i couldn't smell the flower anyway, because i was born with the ability to only smell disgusting things. >> seth: oh, really? [ laughter ] >> yes. >> seth: immediately, if you walk in a room, can you clock it right away? >> a lilac you could shove up my nose, nothing. urind
three blocks away. [ laughter ] yeah. >> seth: it's a gift. >> yeah, it's a gift. >> seth: this is very strange to me, because there are people who have actually are such a fan of yours, that they have gotten larry david tattoos. these are real tattoos that i'm showing. there's one that someone got. [ audience ohs ] [ laughter ] there's another one. [ audience ohs ] have you met these people? have you ever -- >> i have. i have crossed paths, yes. [ laughter ] >> seth: are they excited? are they excited to meet you? >> first of all, here's the thing about that. you know, people who are fans, once they meet me, they're so disappointed so quickly. >> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> it's unbelievable. you know, like -- in two minutes, you could see -- you could see their -- [ laughter ] their face. the disappointment is etched on their face. [ light laughter ] it's like -- this is the guy i wanted to meet? there's nothing to him. there's nothing. what, am i crazy? you know. >> seth: could you date a woman who had a larry david tattoo? [ laughter ] >> i mean, it would be
>> seth: yeah. [ laughter ] >> when you start to get into it -- [ light laughter ] and all of a sudden you look down and you see that on her shoulder. [ laughter ] it would be like making love to myself. [ laughter ] which i have done a couple times. [ laughter and applause ] >> seth: you're going to stick around. we'll be right back with more from larry david. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪watch this ♪ ♪watch this ♪ ♪watch this ♪ ♪watch this
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back to the show, everybody. we're here with larry david, and this is very exciting. earlier today, you obviously are a writer of great renown, you actually joined the "late night" writing staff. >> i did. >> seth: and we actually -- we can take a look at that right now. >> so i thought that was a great show last night.
late. i had, uh -- an extra-long urination. [ laughter ] i mean, just on and on and on. because i would have been here. it took literally like two and a half minutes. it was unbelievable -- it was a record-setting urination. >> seth: this is our new writer, larry david, everybody. >> yeah. [ light applause ] >> oh, wow, applause. i'm honored. thank you. thank you very much. >> seth: and i thought it would be nice if we started by having everyone go around and introduce themselves. >> eh. [ light laughter ] not necessary. i'm good. >> seth: you don't want to learn the names of your new -- >> eh. i'll learn it gradually. i'm not going to remember it anyway. i'm not going to go, "whoa, whoa, mark. mark's got a beard. mark's got a beard. susan -- susan is african-american." you know, i'm not going to remember. >> seth: uh-huh. >> so let's just, hey. we'll hey for a while. you know, we'll do hey. hey! >> hey. >> hey! >> hey. >> hey! >> hey. >> see? >> seth: yeah. >> hey!
>> seth: perfect. i'm fine to be hey-ed. >> what, are you above the hey? [ laughter ] >> seth: i'm not above the hey. that's why i said i'm fine with the hey. >> you didn't sound sincere. it didn't sound very sincere. >> seth: i'm perfectly happy with the hey. >> are you sure? >> seth: i'm perfectly fine with the hey. >> because that's going to put you on the same level as everybody else. because everybody is supposed to know your name, right? >> seth: if people want to hey me, i'm fine being hey-ed. >> hey. >> seth: not you. [ laughter ] so what we do in these meetings is we go around the room and -- [ laughter ] >> i think i know how a pitch meeting works. >> seth: oh, you think you know? >> yeah, i think i do. yeah. >> seth: okay. >> the people pitch ideas, right? >> seth: yeah. >> and you call on somebody and they tell you their ideas. isn't that how it works. >> seth: i just wanted to make sure. >> you know, i've worked on television shows before. >> seth: my apologies. [ light laughter ] >> apology accepted. >> seth: all right. so let's get started. >> yes, great. >> okay. >> seth: i'm sorry. we actually start with reese and then we go clockwise. >> ah. you got a little process, do you? >> seth: it's a process. >> okay, you've gone counterclockwise just to, you
>> seth: we haven't gone counterclockwise. >> you might want to try counter. >> seth: i don't think. >> you might want to try going diagonal. [ light laughter ] >> seth: these are all very interesting ideas. >> does everybody sit in the same chair all of the time? >> seth: no, chairs can switch. >> have they ever switched? >> seth: they haven't switched up to this point. >> okay, because first of all, and i don't want to complain, okay, but i have a little problem sitting here. >> seth: what's the problem with sitting there? >> well, i've got kind of long legs. you know, i like to kind of stretch out, put my legs on something. >> seth: no one else has anything to put their legs on. >> i know, i know, i know. see, if i was sitting here, i could actually put my legs up on that bookcase there. >> seth: do you want to sit there? >> i would -- would you mind switching seats with me? >> uh, sure, no problem. >> this is a good thing. >> seth: okay. >> this is a good thing. see, now this -- now you're going to get something from me. [ laughter ] now you're going to get your money's worth. >> seth: all right.
>> okay. >> seth: well, i'm very glad to hear that. >> okay. um -- >> seth: what now? >> the chair is kind of stuck in a vertical position. >> seth: mm-hmm. >> and if i had to choose between the vertical chair and the feet. >> seth: mm-hmm. >> or the horizontal chair and no feet, i think i'd go horizontal. >> seth: so you want to switch back? >> i'd love to switch back, if that's okay. >> seth: yeah, let's switch back. and then maybe after that, we'll get started. how's that sound? >> would you mind switching back? >> no. go ahead. >> that's great. >> sorry. excuse me. >> that's okay. >> oh, yeah. horizontal, way to go. okay. this is it. i'm good. >> seth: you're good? >> and i'm sorry if i've disrupted anything with this chair business. >> seth: no. well worth it to have you in the room. >> thank you. >> seth: very happy about it. and we're going to get started now, so that's good. >> let us, by all means, get started. >> seth: all right. thank you. thank you for your enthusiasm. reese. >> great. so this will be a desk piece
>> new oval office editions? >> yeah. so recently the oval office was renovated, and because trump is president -- >> it was renovated? okay, go ahead, i'm sorry. >> instead of like a bust of abraham lincoln, there'd be a bust of colonel sanders. and we would do, like, you know, like, six of those with photoshops. >> seth: great. that's great. >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> is this how it works? people kind of snicker at a bad idea? [ laughter ] >> seth: i don't think that's what happened. >> you said "great" to that idea. seriously, what happens if it's a -- if it's a really an idea. that was dreadful. >> seth: this isn't really something that happens at pitch. we sort of talk about it after the fact. but maybe you'd like to go. >> i'm up? >> seth: what's the deal, larry? >> okay, it's called "what are the idiots up to this week?" you go the white house idiots on one side, you got the congressional idiots on the other side. >> seth: thank you so much. is this the --
over -- [ laughter ] [ slurping ] [ laughter ] are you done? >> seth: i'm drinking my tea. >> did you have to have tea right at this particular moment when i'm doing my first pitch? could that be any ruder? >> seth: it wasn't planned. that was just when the tea was ready. >> well, you shouldn't be interrupting the pitch. >> seth: it wasn't an interruption. it was just giving of the tea. >> the pitch was sacrosanct. >> seth: the pitch is sacrosanct? >> yes, you don't interrupt pitches. under any circumstances. >> seth: oh, the pitch is sacrosanct? >> yes. >> seth: we're learning so much from you. this is so helpful to have you here. the pitch is sacrosanct. >> oh, it's not? >> seth: the pitch is the pitch! >> the pitch is the whole ball game. it cannot and should not be ever interrupted. >> seth: just go back to your pitch. >> go back to the pitch? [ light laughter ] >> seth: go back to the pitch, go back to where you were, before the tea. >> you can't go back to a pitch. >> seth: that pitch is gone now? >> the pitch has emotion and you interrupted the flow. i can't go back. >> seth: so thatit
there's no flow. you can't try and recapture a flow. >> seth: so you had a flow? >> yeah. >> seth: you had a once in a lifetime flow. and then that flow was interrupted forever -- >> yes. >> seth: because i got a tea. >> yes, you just can't go back. you can't go back in time and pretend i wasn't interrupted. >> seth: okay. so do you have another pitch? >> i do. >> seth: great. [ light laughter ] >> okay. >> seth: no interruptions. i'll put my tea down. >> thank you. >> seth: the floor is yours. >> no tea drinking? >> seth: no tea drinking. >> huh, you got the tea out of the way? >> seth: tea's out of the way. >> that's all covered? >> seth: open road. >> huh? no coffee? >> seth: no coffee. >> no lattes? >> seth: no caffeine at all. >> nothing? soup? >> seth: just me -- >> what about some soup? >> seth: no soup. >> huh, no soup? >> seth: full attention. >> soup's a distraction. i don't want any soup. >> seth: ears open, eyes open. >> okay. >> seth: looking at larry. >> all right. here we go. i'm going make it really fast. it's a segment called "i don't want to do that." >> seth: great. >> and basically, someone asks you to dinner and you go, "i don't want to do that, why would i do that? it's late, i want to go home." well, somebody asks you to the movies, you go, "i don't want to do that. what are you, out of your mind? go to the movies with you? i don't even like you." you know. and the movie probably stinks anyway.
amber, you're up. >> okay, i was thinking -- [ laughter ] >> hold, hold, hold it. that's great? >> seth: what's wrong with that? >> you weren't even smiling when i told it to you. you didn't laugh. so how's it great? >> seth: well, i'm sorry. but you put me in a place where i feel very sensitive about your flow and the interruption of it. i was trying to be a blank canvas so that your pitch could have all of the real estate it needed to live and breathe and come to life. >> so you thought it was great, did you? >> seth: i thought it was great. >> hmmm. [ light laughter ] are you sure? >> seth: i'm absolutely sure. >> are you really sure? >> seth: i'm really sure. ♪ [ laughter ] >> okay.
i just looked into your soul. you know what i discovered, seth meyers? you're a liar! [ laughter ] that's right! you're lying to me, you're lying to them. you're lying to everybody! well, you know what? i don't want to work for a liar. you people want to work for a liar? come on, let's go! let's go! come on! you don't want to work for a liar. hey, hey, hey! come on! you're an asshole! >> seth: yeah, okay. good, go! because he's right. i have been lying to you! they weren't great ideas. since this show started we haven't had a single great idea. there have been five "okays" and a "maybe." i have the great ideas. so we're going to be just fine without you. just fine! ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: thank you so much. >> a pleasure. >> seth: it was really fun hanging out with you t.
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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: welcome back, everybody. our next guest is an emmy and golden globe-winning actor. you know him from his portrayal as jack bauer on "24". he stars in "designated survior" which kicks off its second season tomorrow night on abc. let's take a look. >> this base closure will cost my state 6,000 jobs. i've been trying to get the white house's attention. >> now you've got it. patrick lloyd is the single greatest central in our national security. you don't get to use him for political gain. >> sir, i would never jeopardize national security. you can rely on my integrity. >> i'm counting on it. the base closure will not be revisited. goodbye, senator. >> seth: please welcome back to the show, kiefer sutherland, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: how are you? >> i'm great, man. how are you? >> seth: good.
>> thanks so much for having me. >> seth: for those who don't know the premise of the show, "designated survivor" is a real policy where when politicians go to the capitol, one has to stay out in case something happens. something terrible -- >> two, actually. >> seth: two, it's two. >> there is a representative from each party. >> seth: okay, there you go. that makes sense. that's very fair. but something terrible does happen on this show so you're elevated. >> at the very beginning of this show, the capitol was attacked during the state of the union and my character, the designated survivor, becomes president overnight and the show takes off from there. >> seth: and you -- one of obviously the -- the thrust of the show is you were very inexperienced as being president and have to learn on the fly, which seems very timely. [ laughter ] >> and to that i'm going to tell you, the show was created, written and partially filmed long before our current president even announced his candidacy. >> seth: yeah, that's how tv works. it starts a very long time in advance and then sometimes events conspire and you're making a documentary. [ laughter ] >> to a perfect -- y
>> seth: so you based this show on a canadian politician. >> well, i actually -- i based the character -- >> seth: yeah. >> the reference point -- >> seth: uh, the character, yeah. >> the reference point that i use the most was my grandfather, who was later of the ccf, and the ndp in canada. he was premier of saskatchewan for 16 years. he was responsible for many things, but most notably health care in canada. >> seth: he was the created the single payer healthcare system, your grandfather. >> yes, he did. >> seth: that's incredible! and so -- [ cheers and applause ] >> thank you very much. greatest man i know. >> seth: and so you have this character that's inspired by canadian politician, who is an american president. is it safe to say this could not be farther apart -- farther afield of jack bauer than you could have played? >> yes. they're very far apart. in fact, i was going to apologize for my state of dress. but i was wearing a suit earlier today, and i know that i go
president kirkman. >> seth: yeah. >> and they start asking me if i think the health care bill will pass. and i have to say, "i don't know," or, "i certainly hope not." at least when i was playing jack bauer, they would say like, "do you think the flight is safe?" [ laughter ] >> seth: right? >> stuff like that. >> seth: yeah. >> so, the questions have become more complicated so i try and get through the airport as quickly as possible. but the truth is, what i found so interesting about the character was really taking this incredibly complicated job. you know, i mean -- the idea that one person is going to manage to please 340 million people at any given time is -- is, well, ridiculous. >> seth: yeah. >> and so the idea of trying to approach policy and leadership with common sense is one of my favorite things about the show. and the writing of the show. because i will have a situation put in front of me, and there is a very obvious common sense reaction to that situation. and i have 16 people next to me telling me why that won't work. and so it is an insight into the
government system. that i find really interesting and remarkable. and it creates a lot of -- well, as we're seeing today, a lot of drama. >> seth: yes. there is a lot of drama. >> it's a mindless field. >> seth: and it's a -- i think like, no matter your politics, the nice thing about the show, i do think people like the idea of watching a character who understands what this job is, and has common sense behind it. i think that makes it a nice -- >> well, again, i think -- you know, i think at the root, and i've had the pleasure, whether through rodeos or music, really traveling from town to town across this country. and the thing that has always taken me, you know, being a stranger in all these towns, people are really good here. >> seth: yes. >> they're really kind and they're really nice. and i've watched people go way out of their way to help a stranger. and so i'm always inspired that -- inspired by that from town to town. and, again, the government -- the way it is set up and represented is from a specific state has special interests for their constituents, makes it ve
and i think the american people on a whole really just wish people would just do the right thing. >> seth: sure. that makes sense. you talked about -- [ cheers and applause ] absolutely. you talked about traveling for rodeo, traveling for music. you just traveled around europe. you have a country band. >> well, yeah, country -- country rock. >> seth: country rock. and so you are obviously an actor who does music. and but, yet, at the same time, you are an actor who is skeptical of other actors who do music. >> oh, even when you said it to me there about myself, my eyes rolled back. [ laughter ] you know, the stigma of actors doing music is historic. i mean, certainly as long as i've been alive, it's never been a really good thing. i just finally got old enough where i didn't care. >> seth: yeah. >> you know. but the truth is, i have some songs that i really liked and i love playing them live. i recorded them with some great friends of mine. and the touring is something that i have really enjoyed. and i'm a lot better at that
than i am golf so -- >> seth: that's fantastic. thank you so much for being here, kiefer. it's always such a pleasure to see you. >> thanks so much for having me. [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: kiefer sutherland, everybody. the second season of "designated survivor" premieres tomorrow on abc. we'll be back with josh earnest. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ [ "more more more" by dagny ] ♪ more, more, more ♪ how do you like it ♪ how do you like it ♪ more, more, more ♪ how do you like it ♪ how do you like it ♪ how do you like it
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ralphcandidate for governor,rtham, and i sponsored this ad. they're studying for 21st century jobs. but ed gillespie supports donald trump's plan to take money out of virginia public schools and give it to private schools. as a washington dc lobbyist, ed gillespie worked for lenders trying to keep student loan rates high. and ed gillespie's plan to cut taxes for the wealthy could cut virginia school funding, too. ed doesn't stand for education. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: our next guest served
as press secretary for president obama. he is currently a political analyst for nbc news and msnbc. please welcome to the show, josh earnest, everybody! [ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: welcome to the show! >> thank you. i'm excited to be here. >> seth: i'm so happy to have you. >> this is fun. >> seth: i want to start by saying, it's great to me that being press secretary is difficult no matter who the president is. it seems the hardest part now, for be it, sean spicer before, or sarah huckabee sanders now, is that president trump is watching the press conference in real-time. >> yes. >> seth: was that the case with president obama? was he watching the press conferences? >> i did not have an audience of one to my successors have had. in fact, when president obama offered me the job in the oval office, he said there are two things i needed to know. and the first one was, i'm not going to watch your briefing every day. presumably, he's got better things to do. he is after all, the president of the united states. >> seth: and isn't it good he has better things to do than watch a press conference.
>> well -- well, the irony is this. the average american has better things to do then to watch the white house briefing. >> seth: yeah. >> you would think the leader of the free world would have something better to do. >> seth: yeah, we don't have time to watch them. >> right. i don't. i don't. >> seth: and then it also seems that they have had to explain policy that has been expressed in tweets. which is -- they're short. they're very small and short. and not a place to explain policy and then have to defend them. is -- do you have great relief that was not how it was for you? >> yeah, look, president obama took very seriously the responsibility that he had to go make an argument. he had a vision about where he wanted to take the country. and, look, the sense that you have with president trump is that he is constantly freelancing. that it's always -- it's always sort of extemporaneous and you never know what's going to happen. >> seth: no, i agree. >> what that means is there is not really any substance there. so when it looks like the spokesperson is having a hard time defending something, in this white house, it's because there is actually nothing to defend. >> seth: now, i have heard --
that president obama told you his door was always open if you needed policy explained before going to the podium. >> that's right. exactly. >> seth: and so to that -- to what you just said, do you think that ultimately door open or door closed there no answers in that office? >> yeah, look, i think -- i -- this is one of the two things president obama told me. he said, first, he wasn't going to watch the briefings, and second thing, he was was, if there is something you need to know before you go out to do the briefing, then, you need to come and talk to me. come find me. i will stop what i am doing to spend five minutes talking to you about what you need to -- what you need to know. so often, that is, people would ask me, what did president obama mean when he said, "x," or what did president obama mean when he said "y"? what better way to find that out than to go and talk to the president. and so, that meant journalists knew they could count on me conveying to them reliable information about what the president actually thought. this administration, it's not clear that president trump has invested in his surrogates in a way that would let them walk in the door. and it's also -- it's also not clear that he wouldn't change his mind as soon as they walked out the door.
do them that much good to go in there in the first place. >> seth: right. or that the opinion of what they said would change or be received negatively and he would throw them under the bus. which seems like it happens a great deal. >> look, i mean, one of the things to -- and this is particularly true with a -- with mr. spicer. but he looked like he was in a constant state of fear of being fired. >> seth: yeah. >> because he knew the other guy was watching the television, and he was performing for that one person. and if he wasn't up to snuff, he was -- his job was constantly hanging by a thread. and so you can't succeed doing any job in america if you're constantly worried -- that the one person -- >> seth: also, why worry? everyone is eventually going to get fired. it's not like -- it's not like there's any lifetime appointments in the trump administration. >> that is true. >> seth: so i want to ask about this. one of the things president obama said when he came into office was he was going to have the most transparent administration ever. that was his wall. [ laughter ] and, yet there's been multiple studies that said as far as freedom of information requests, they were fulfilled less under president obama than they had
did he fail to live up to that transparency and more so, did he establish a new norm that now when you have a president that has opposite politics of you, is going to take advantage of? >> yeah, listen. the -- this was the subject of a lot of debate in the briefing room when i was the press secretary. and the truth is, president obama was, in fact, the most transparent president in history. >> seth: by what metrics are you using? >> well, there are a variety of ways to evaluate this. >> seth: this is where you're a good press secretary, i guess. because i see like you're not going to tell me any lies, but i feel you're going to tell a different truth than the one i'm asking about. >> well, i think we can agree that there are different ways to evaluate what we're saying under transparencies. >> seth: well, let's just do the freedom of information request. i mean, do you feel like in regards to that he was as transparent as he could have been? >> uh -- there -- what i can tell you, is there was no presidential directive that came down to any agency that said, you should make it really hard to respond to freedom of information act requests. the truth is, these agencies all have day jobs. they all have responsibilities
to go and -- and prevent terrorist attacks from occurring on american soil. it's not surprising that the fulfillment of freedom of information act requests is a little bit of a bureaucratic backwater. so it's not like we have the a-team that's responding to freedom of information act requests. they are -- you know, those are the people that are on the front lines. when it comes to fulfilling freedom of information act requests, more than 90% of the freedom of information act requests that were filed in the obama administration got a response and got some of the information -- at least some of the information -- that was requested. >> seth: it is -- i do want to call it out. you said at least some of the information. there were more highly censored then had been previous information. and sometimes the response was -- and again, 90% of the time they got a response. sometimes the response was, "we can't find that." >> well, the 10% was, "we don't have anything for you." but, look, there was a good-faith effort made to provide this information. the other thing the obama administration pioneered was using technology to -- to self-disclose information and information that had never been
the -- is the -- the entry logs in the white house. people who walk in the white house, if you have a meeting with the president or some other member of the white house staff, for the 43 presidents before barack obama, that was information that had not been public. in fact, the bush administration actually went to the supreme court to try to prevent the release of this information. this is something that the obama administration did voluntarily every quarter. and it won't surprise you to hear the trump administration rolled back that progress for transparency. >> seth: well, it made sense that president obama would do it, because cool people would show up all of the time. [ laughter ] i feel like, you would want to be like, "there's jay-z and beyonce, they showed up." so it made sense. >> he didn't have that going for him -- it wasn't kid rock and sarah palin. >> seth: yeah, exactly, there you go. thank you so much for being here. >> thanks for having me, seth. >> seth: i really appreciate it. >> good to be here. >> seth: josh earnest, everybody! we'll be right back! [ cheers and applause ] ♪
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: my thanks to larry david, kiefer sutherland, josh earnest, gregg bissonnette and of course, the 8g band. stay tuned for "carson daly." we'll see you tomorrow. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ >> carson: hi there. good evening. i'm carson daly, and welcome to "last call." tonight, we're coming to you from the lovely penthouse suite at the time new york hotel high above nyc, and we've got another