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♪ ee [ chrs and applause ] ♪ >> announcer: from 30 rockefeller plaza in new york, it's "late night with seth meyers." tonight -- senator bernie sanders, star of "i'm not here," actor j.k. simmons, featuring the 8g band with jon epcar. ♪ [ cheers and applause ] ladies and gentlemen, m seers. [ cheers and applause ]d >> seth: gening everybody, i'm seth meyers. this is "late night." how is everybody doing tonight? [ cheers and applause ] that is fantastic to hear. in that case, let's get to the news. during his meeting with ye president trumerday, north korean leader kim jong-un told reporters that the sight of him and trump sitting side by side must look like, quote, "a
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fantasy movie." actually, you look more like a couple of dads waiting tpick up your kids after a fantasy movie! [ laughter ] it was reported today teat marthart will team up with the world's largest legal marijuana producer to develop a new line of cbd products. and her next cookbook is just going to be a bunch of takeout menus stapled together. [ laughter ] [ applause ] chocolate company cadbury has announced they're hiring a st chocolate who will be paid $14 an hour to test new products. apparently their last one died pretty gruesomely. [ laughter ] [ applause ] according to a new poll, people living in hawaii have the highest sense of well being, which makes sense geographically.
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[ laughter ] cheers and applause ] elce to have a little distance. the jonas brotherssed a new single tonight for the first time in six years. [ eers and applause ] said their fans, we can't listen, we've grown up and have ildren now. [ laughter ] a food delivery man was recently arrested after allegedly dipping s testicles into a container of salsa that a customer ordered because he was only tipped 89 cents. police became suspicious when the mayelled, "oh my balls! ah! oh my balls! , i hope someone orders hummus." [ laughter ]ma a in china reportedly paid over $1500 to get her cat plastic surgery, and no one was more surprised thathe cat. [ laughter ]
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she looks younger. [ light laughter ] lawmakers in north carolina ar considering a bill that would change the standard for a failing grade in public schools from anything less than 59% to anything lower than 39%. said north carolina students, whoa, whoa, whoa, 39 is less than 59? [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] victoria secret anno yesterday that it will be closing more than 50 of it's north american stores this year. but where will i go when i want new ones said leonardo dicaprio about his girlfriend [ laughter ] according to a new study, watching television for more than three and a half hours a day can lead to a decline in mory. said trump, "oh my god melinda, did you see this?" ] [ laught [ applause ]
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and finall tomorrow is justin bieber's 25th birthday. and if you're wondering what to get him, a shirt [ laughter ] ladies and gentlemen, we have a e eat show for you tonight. [ cheers and appla he is the senator from vermont, and 2020 presidential candidate, bernie sanders is back everybody. [ cheers and applause ] so happy to have him here. he's starring in the new film "i'm not here," j.k.ns returns to the show. [ cheers and applause ] so last night we had a really f good examplew crazy the times we're living in are right now. we had christina hendricks on the show, just a wderful actress. we love having her here. t and we made fun of the fat earlier in the day she'd been on a morning show, and during the moing show, because of the cohen -- the michael cohen hearings, ki br news interrupted her mid sentence when she was on tv. here's alip of us talking about that. >> seth: you were on "kelly" this
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morning. >> yeah. >> seth: and this happened while u were getting interviewed. >> she thought for years, and years, and years, and found of on auto pilot, and -- >> special report. michael cohen testifies. [ laughter ] >> thank you. thank you very much. >> seth: all right. so that happened. w and thjoked about well, we know it won't happen here ae because the micohen thing's over now. and then our show aired last night. and here's the crazy thing. by the time christina hendricks, we were talking, it was 1:00 in the morning. news never happens at 1:00 in the morning unless the president is in vietnam. [ laughter ] which is a time zone that is so different that news happens there at 1:00 in the morning. so a minute,ne minute after i made fun of christina hendricks for getting interrupted on a rn g show, this happened. >> she wou practice on us when she was learning, and so we would have the neighborhood kids come over, and we would be like --
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>> this is an nbc news special report. reporting from hanoi vietnam. [ laughter ] [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: i mean, what? we're living in a [bleep] crazy time. [ laughter ] i do want to take this opportunity to say christina hendricks is er show "good girls" is great. everybody should watch it. i have to say that cause she g interrupted by the news cycle. all right, you guys. as president trump returned from lls summit with kim jong-un, he was facing more t from michael cohen's congressional testimony. for more on this, ite for "a closer look." [ cheers and applause ] th has truly been one of t most eventful weeks of the trump presidency and every week of the trump presidency is eventful. just once, i'd like the cnn chyron to say, "breaking, nothing happened, now get a good night's sleep." [ laughter ] for example, today trump wrapped up the summit in vietnam with north korean leader kim jong-un, and it wouldn't be a trump summit with world leader
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without a super weird handshake. ateck out this moment between trump and kim, and specifically for how trump goes in for the handshake. [ laughter ] it's like he was going in for at karate chop, an remembered it was supposed to be a handshake. [ laughter ] trump always shakes hands the way a 7-year-old boy would think big important businessman shakes hands. i'm going to go in for the chop, then up d down real hard, and then i say good job with the files. we sho [ laughter ] sometime. now, you might think the tyrannical dictator of oppressive regime would never get stressed out, but on his way to the summit, camas apparently caught kim lighting up a cigarette. way, the north korean dictator was caught giving into one of his vices, taking a smoke break, and using what appeared to be a crystal ashtray. >> seth: he's one of the most
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brutal dictators in e world, and he looks like a k-mart employee on black friday, pacing around the parking lot trying to build up the nerve to quit. [ laughter ] alright, i'm there.o go in i'm going to say, "donald, it's over, and don't try to chop my hand." [ laughter ] everything about this summit was weird. for example, the white press pool which consists of a group of rotating reporters whose job it is to track the president's vements was apparently transported to trump's meeting with kim jong-un in a broken bus. according to the report, the pool was transported to the palace in a bus with a broken horn that consistently hked on its own at nothing. [ laughter ] i will say "a horn that honked at nothing" sounds likes the title of a children's book about donald trump. [ laughter ]au [ ap ] now everyone, let's be clear, everyone should want a peaceful, diplomatic solution, and after a summit like this, you'd at least want coherent explanation of where things stand given the stakes of the situation. and yet here's trump describg the summit with kim after it was
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over. >> we just left chairman kim. we had a really -- i think a very productive time. we spent pretty much all day with kim jong-un who is -- he's quite a guy, and quite a character. >> seth: quite character. he's one of the most brutal dictators in the world, and you're talking about him like he's dwight from "the office." this guy, let me tell you, loves his beets. loves them. also killed thousands. c rse it's very possible trump was distracted by the big story looming over the summit, the explosive congressional st ony of his former personal fixer, michael cohen. in fact, there's already fallouh from the hearing. this morning, the democratic chairman of the committee, elijah cummings, said the ably call would pr more witnesses. cummings said, "if michael cohen cntioned their names in the hearing yesterdances are they will be called in to testify too." w that's huge. it means everyone from jared kushner, to ivanka trump,
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to don jr. could be called in to testify. but personally, i'm most excited about one person in particular, and it comes from thisnge yesterday. >> to your knowledge, did the ev presiden provide inflated assets to an insurance company? >> yes. >> who else knows that the president did this? >> allen weisselberg, ron lieberman, and matthew calamari. >> that's right. there's an actual human person named matthew calamari. [ laughter ] or at least i think he is a person, and not squidward's dead beat uncle on pongebob." [ laughter ] if there's any upside to electing a new yorker as president it's that we will at let get to hear a member o congress say the words, thank you for being here, mr. calamari.u we would urge remember you're under oath, and for you not to forget about it. [ laughter ] and you can tell trump and t publicans are worried ab cohen's testimony because leading up to it, they've been publicly threatening him. on tuesday, congressman matt gaetz threatened to reveal information about cohen's l persone.
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and last month, trump went on fox news, and said investigators should look to cohen's father-in-law for committing some sort of crime, although he sn't very clear on the specifics. >> in order to get his sentence redud, he says i have an ide i'll give you some information on the president. well, there is no information, but he should give information maybe on his father-in-law because that's the one that t people w look at because where does that money, that's the money in the family. and i guess he didn't want to talk about his father-in-law, he's trying to getis sentence reduced. >> what is his father-in-law's name? >> ion't know, but you'll fi out, and you'll look into it. >> seth: man. [ laughter ]s he just lo talk in that details free mafia dialect. i'd hate to get driving directions from a trump voice gps. maybe you'll go this way for a little bit, and then you'll tur y or the other, and you'll get somewhere, or you won't. capiche? in case you're wondering how much dirt cohen really has on trump, just remember has known trump for years. he was his personal fixer, his
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lawyer, his enforcerhe routinely threatened people on teump's behalf as he explained to the committee yay. >> how many times did mr. trump ask you to threatean individual or entity on his behalf? >> quite a few times. >> 50 times? >> more. >> 100 times >> more. >> 200 times? >> more. >> 500 times? >> probably. >> seth: dear god. at this rate, congress is goings to have rt using "price is right" rules. [ laughter ] and even as late as september 2017, cohen said he would remain loyal to trump. he told "vanity fair," i'm guy who stops the leaks. i'm the guy who protects the president, and the family. i'm the guy who would take a bullet for the president.ok , but no, trump definitely would not take a bullet for youy were with trump and he sensed danger, he would knock you over, and run out of the room like george costanza. >> fire! [ screaming ] [ laughter ]
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>> seth: andhere's still so ch -- h applause ] there's still so me public does not know about trump's relationshipheh wn.co th rnment has seized more than 100 rordings that cohen made of his conversations with people discussing matters that could relate to trump and his businesses, and with trump himself talking. cohen appeared to make some recordings with an iphone. wow, an iphone. so not only did cohen flip on tr p, so did siri. [ laughter ] siri knew so much, she had to go into the witness protection program. >> my name isn't siri. my name is matthew calamari. [ laughter ] >> seth: this is why we need yesterday's hearings. because we still don't know what's in those recordings. one of theew people who does, trump's lawyer rudy giuliani even accidently admitted that those tapes might have damni information in them in an in,"rview with the "new york responding to a story about trump's plan to build a trump tower in moscow during the campaign, rudy said, "i can tell from the moment i read the story
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i knew the story was false. because? because i have through all the tapes." goait? what tapes have yo through?" "i shouldn't have said tapes." [ laughter ] "so there were no tapes you listened to though?" "no tas. well, i have listened to tapes, but none of them concern this." i remember what it is now. i was thinking about ape that mr. trump made for me. [ laughter ] [ applause ] you know -- you know who i'd love to see testify in front of congress, rudy. he crumbles under no pssure. i mean, look at him. he always looks like he just sat on a park bench, and it turned out to be a ski lift. oh! what's the big idea, bench. ailaughter ] not only did trumpto get a deal in vietnam, but as he returns home, he's facing the fallout from cohen's eve testimony. we know so much today that we didn't know yesterday. in fact, at this point, someone should just ask cohen point
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blank how many times trump broke the law. >> 100 times? >> more. >> 200 times? >> more. >> 500 times? beobably. >> seth: this has en "a closer look." [ cheers and applause ] ♪ b we'll k with senator bernie sanders, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ i love my babies, lovency boys. i'm a truck driver, you know there's times that i'm gone for, like, three weeks at a time. even if i'm 3,000 miles away, i'm connected with my boys. every day i can video at with them. i could be in the middle of wyoming. even if i'm like waaay... out here,i n still reach my kids. baby, you-- you see me? (sons) hey, daddy! (vo) there for you when it matters most. orunlimited on the best ne now comes with apple music on us and $300 off our best phones. o onverizon.
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back, everybody.t give for the 8g band, right over there. [ cheers and applause ] all this week, we have had the versatile drummer for the broadway production of "mean girls" sitting in with us, and also, be sure to check out his solo album, "morning drone" e availaw. jon epcar, everybody. [ cheers and applause ] thanks for a g>>at week, jon. hank you. >> seth: really appreciate it. our first guest tonight is the united states senator from vermont. he recently announced his candidacy for president of the united s please welcome back to the show, senator bernie sanders everyone. d [ cheers applause ] ♪ ♪ welcome back, senator. >> great to be with you. y >> set know, you were here in 2015 right after you announced, and when you announced that time it w not
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as big of a deal as it was this time. you were -- "new york times" put it on a21. >> a19. >> seth: a19 oh yeah. >> but who's -- who's counting? [ laughter ] >> sh: a lot has changed. one thing that's changed is the party has moved more to the left, and also you -- it is a more crowded field. it seems like a lot of people are jumping in here. , having gone through wh you went through four years ago feel more prepared? >> i do.i anink, what i'm excited about is that many of the ideas that we talked about three or four years ago, which at that time were thought to be crazy, and extreme, and radical, are now supported by a considerable majority of the american people. so, four years agowhen we talked about raising the minimum wage to a living wage, 15 bucks an hour, "oh my god. you can't do that." onfive states have alreadyit in the last year. that's progress. [ cheers and applause ] you know, we talked about ending the disgrace of the united states being the only co majotry on earth not to
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guarantee healthcare to all people through a medicare for all single payer program. crazy idea four years ago, majority of the american people support it tod, and that's important. [ cheers and applause ] because healthcare -- seth, to my mind, health care is a human right, and it not matter whether you're rich, whether you're poor.ma certain that your kid gets the best possible healthcare available. that's what we gotta do. public colleges and universities, tuition free. it now an idea that is spreading all over this country. and importantly, four years ago, i said, "we ve got to stand up to the fossil fuel industry."go we havto transform our energy system away from fossil fuel, to energy efficiency, and sustainable energy. and i think more and more people understand that climate change is an existential threat to thin , and we have got to be aggressive in transforming our energy system. [ cheers and applause
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>> seth: i want to ask this. a lot of those issues obvi distinguish you from the competition last time. one of the successes is you now have convinced a lot of the people that are runninagainst you. >> yeah. >> seth: do you ever want to say -- cause a lot of them obviously, are friends or collea do you ever want to say, "hey, this is kind of my -- medicare for all is kind of my thing." [ laughter ] >> oh yeah. >> seth: or are you happy that it is now an consensou? >> nobody,now -- nobody -- no one person can do it alone. so, we need a lot of voices out there. one of the things also -- you asked me the difference between now and then. in the first week of our campaign, seth, have signed up 1 million volunteers who are prepared to roll up their sleeves and get to work not only to help me win the nomination, and to defeat the most dangerous president in modern history, mr. trump -- [ applause ] but alsoo help us take on the very powerful special interests. ll street, the fossil fuel industry, the military industrial complex that have
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just so much power over the economic and political life of this country. >> seth: so many senators running. obviously, you see them. they are your colleagues. is it awkward that you all know that you're all trying to be president? [ light laughter ] >> you know, look -- [ laughter ] >> seth: i'll take that as a yes. >> the short answer is yes. >> seth: yeah, okay. great. [ laughter ] that's human. i would say that's a human reaction. >> yeah, we all have lunch together every tuesday, anyou got half the caucus running for -- for president. you know?s itnd of strange, but on the other hand, you know, we have known each other. i've known elizabeth warren for like 20 years. i've known many of the other senators for a long time, and we're friends. and i think what all of us understand, obviously each and ery one of us wants to win the nomination. i certainly do.we but i thinll understand that no matter who wins, od everis going to rally around that candidate and defeat donald trump. that is most important.
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[ cheers and applause ] >> seth: that's nice to hear. speaking of -- speaking our president, obviously, he was ov in vietnam. he was talking with kim jong-un. do you think ultimately it is good to talk to other world leaders even those we disagree with, and how would you approach a meeting with a dictator like that? >> look, you know, i think that trump is, you know, a pathological liar, and racist, and a sexist. you know, we can go on, and on,t and on, descri authoritarian personality. but on the other hand i don't think anybody in this country or in this world wants to see kim jong-un, who is a dangerous dictator, have nuclear weapons. so the fact that trump is attempting to rid thntry of nuclear weapons, i think it's the right thing to do, and i think that it is a positive thing. go and sit down with people who you have strong disagreements with, and do your best to try to work it out. w, are spending right now, on
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this planet, you kell, well, well over a trillion dollars every year on weapons of enstruction. and you got chiln america, children all over the world who are hungry, kids who are dyi from preventable diseases. so what we have got to try to do is bring this world together to eefight climate change, tof we can work out differences of opinion in a pceful way. start cutting military spending, use that money for healthcare, for education, to uplift the poorest people in the world. a [ chee applause ] >> seth: i -- i certainly agree with that. you're obviously very busy. you are a senator. you're running for pre. did you have time to watch the michael cohen hearing yesterday, and what was your take away? >> i watched it a bit, and my take away is that cohen kind of confirmed what many of us had known. and by the way, it really does not give me pleasure to say that what we have always known is that we have a president who is
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a pathological lr. we have a president who, as cohen indicated, is a -- is a racist and whave a president who is a fraud. he is a fraud. when he ran for office, he told working people all over this country that he was gonna represent their interests. and yet, in his first year in office, he tried to throw 32 million americans off of the healthcare that they have. that's not helping working families in this country. he said that he would have a tax plan that benefitted everybody.v well a ten-year period, 83% of those benefits go to the top 1%. he said he wouldn't cut social security, medicare, medicaid, t t he brought forth a bud that did exactly that. so i think he lied to the working families of this country, and i think many of them understand. they understand that, and they understand that finally we need a government where you have a
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president not surrounded by billionaires, but ident who is working for working families, and trying tcreate an economy that works for all of us, not just the 1%. >> seth: you're gonna to stick around. [ cheers and applause ] >> yeah. k some : we're gonna t more we'll be back with more from senator bernie sanders. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ two weeks before the baby was born, jake called his dad 26 times. they had an argument and hadn't spoken since. over the next few days, he ignored 14 calls from his father. although he did text his mother often, looking for the right words to fix things with his dad. that morning, jake sent 18 texts to family and friends. but it was the 19th, asking his father to come visit, that meant the most.
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♪ [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: welcome back. we are here with senator bernie sanders. a lot of pundits, somee who are already running are warning about this idea that if the democratic party goes too il far left, thatenable a trump victory because people in the center will flee to him out of fear of the left.>> o, i strongly disagree with that. i think one of the reasons thate people, rump, get elected is so many working people and lower income people haen up on the political process and
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they don't vote, and compared to other countries ound the world, our voter turnout is not particularly high. and think what we need are candidates who speak to ordinart people way are in a lot of pain. all right? we don't talk about it enough.al you got motherover this country who cannot find quality childcare for their little ones. we have kids who are graduating, t.ll0, 50, $100 thousand in d others can't even afford to go to college. got people who work in two or three jobs while we have the three wealthiest people in this country owning more wealth than the bottom half of the american the people. we got to raise that as a moral issue.o when we haveny people in poverty, so many people uninsured, is it acceptable that so few have so much money, and so much power? d i think when you start talking about those issues and you say, "yeah, i understand you i understand that you're worried about the future gener worried about whether your kids are goa have a lower standard
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of living than you have. you're worried about climate change." when we speak to the needs of working people and we say, "yes. we are prepared to take on wall streetand the fossil fuel du ry, and all of the big money interests to create an economy that works for all of us." noi think people say, "you what? it's about time, and i'm gonna go out and vote, and i'm gonna support those candidates that's my view. >> seth: you had a -- [ applause ] obviously, there were so many things about your last campaign that were successful, but ultimately you didn't withe nomination. one thing that people reflecting back would say is that you did not have a diverse enough coalition of people behind you. how have you addressed that moving into this?a >> that'ry fair question. we ended up -- you know, one of the problems with the last campaign is when we ben, you know, i come from a very small state.t i was own by a whole lot of people. but as the campaign progressed,d much better with the african-american community, with the latino community, and we did better in general. and by the time the campaign
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ended, what i'm really excited about --ui we want to on -- is that we ended up getting more votes from young people, black, d white, and latino, asi american, native american than clinton or trump combined. that's pretty good. okay? [ applause ] so, what we -- but your point is right. you know, we started off with a few people from vermont, and the campaign moved so quickly. we did not put together the kind of diverse campaign that we should have, and this time we will, in fact, do just that. >> seth: i'm glad to hear that. i heard you say, you one thing you might do is obviously you're running, as you've established, a pathological liar as we try to establish every night. [ laughter ] you -- i've heard the joke you're gonna bring a lie detector on stage bat -- at a . but in reality, how do you run against someone who -- obviously, you're very left. you must be aware that donald trump would paint you as even further left than that. >> you know, seth here's the -- i never use the word left. >> seth: yup. >> i don't -- i am. i'm a democratic socialist. so, that's the way it is.
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t the issues that we tal about, is it left to say that in this country we should have minimum wage that is a ling wage? is it left to say thatverybody should have healthcare as a right, that we should expand social security? because so many of our people can't make it -- elderly people can't make it on 12, $13 thousand a year. is it left to say that we have to rebuild our crumbling infrastructure, and crea millions and millions of jobs? is it left to say we have to address the crisis of climate change, or that we have to deal with criminal justice reformor immigration reform? we have to deal with sexism, , racid homophobia. i don't think those are left issues. you know, i think sometimes the media makes a bigger deal about it. i think, in fact, on all of those issues and more, sensible gun safety legislation. i think you have the strong majority of the american people saying, "yeah, i agreeith that." and let's have people in s washington wnd with me rather than just wealthy campaign contributors. that's kind of what this campaign is about.
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[ applause ] >> seth: you obviously, have a very good job. you're trying to get anotheroo veryjob, but you also had some other jobs. we found a clip. you we in a movie in 1988. [ laughter ] a real movie. a real movie. >> oh oh i got to get going here. >> seth: no, no, no. [ laughter ] >> okay.t' >> seth:called "sweet hearts dance." a real cast, jeff daniels, susan sarandon. >> some of them, yeah. >> set this film?u end up in i should notice, your character's name is bernie. la yes. >> seth: are young yourself? [ laughter ] >> it wasn't that we did a lot of auditioning for the film. [ laughter ] it happened to be that the filma shot in vermont. that helped. and they went -- i was mayor of the city of burlington. we helped them out getting some extrasnd so forth, and so on. so i said, "hey, i'm a good extra. i'll do that." [ laughter ] w th about it. >> seth: well, we actually have -- we have a clip, and i really think you're great. let's take a look at senator sanders here in "sweet hearts dance." >> my acting -- >> hi. >> trick or treat. >> how you doing? >> trick or treat, bernie.
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>> trick or treat. >> trick or treat. >> come on, bernie. fill them up there. >> okay, here you go. >> seth: and let me just say -- [ laughter ] >> wait a minute. wait a minute. [ cheers and applause ] i think -- i think that's an oscar award. [ laughter ] >> seth: that was fantastic. [ applause ] >> i thi it was great. >> seth: and i think that -- i really like that the clip is you distributing out candy fairly. >> free candy. [ laughter ] free. right, absolutely. s h: no one should have to pay for their candy. [ applause ] give it up for senator bernie sanders, everyone. we'll be right back with j.k. simmons. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪ when you find yourself in a strange land... discover your inner hero. and unlock the power... to speed through everything... in the blink of an eye. hertz fast lane powered by clear...
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[ cheers and applause ] ♪ >> seth: our next guest is an academy award winning actor you know from "whiplash," and e "spider-man" films. he stars in "i'm not here," which opens in new york and otheselect cities, and is available on demand march 8th, welcome back to thshow j.k. simmons, everyone! [ cheers and applause ] ♪
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how are you? >> i am fine. how are you? seth: i'm good. 's always wonderful to see you. this seems to me to be an interesting undertaking as far as a role for an actor.in you are pla man who is reflecting back on his life, so other actors are playing you throughout your life. and as the man who is u reflecting, ve no lines in this film. >> that is a true fact. >> seth: yeah. >> yeah. it w [ laughter ] >> seth: oh, it was super easy. ayay good. i thought it would take even more, but no, it's just a very -- >> no. >> seth: didn't have to learn any licas. >> piece o. they'd like, hand me the script pages every morning, and i'd go, why are you doing that? >> seth: got it. well, maybe this was a favor.tt there was a bit of a family favor because your wife co-wrote the film and directed it. now, when your wife as a co-writer gives you no lines, do you take that as a passive aggressive comment? [ laughter ]'t >> i dant to say that, but you just did. [ laughter ] >> seth: how was she
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director to work with? >> she's awesome. t and really, way she runs the set, everybody on the crew loves her. i mean she started making short films 15 years ago almost, and has a bunch of loyal people that love to work wh her, and really specific as an actor's director too. even though you don't have lines. so, she wasn't giving me any lineeadings. >> seth: i do want to show a clip from the trailer so people can get a better sense of it. >> yeah. >> seth: let's take a look. >> it's mom, karen passed away this morning. >> i'm not here. [ beep ] >> you only get one life. don't waste it. ♪ [ beep ] [ cheers and applause ] >> seth: one thing i couldn't help but notice is it seems -- em very gaunt in this film. was that another request from the director? >> it was. she wanted me to be naked, and
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look as bad as possible. [ laughter ] >> seth: wow.>> eah. >> seth: she really put you through the ringer. >> it was -- the character, when i play him, was also played by sebastian stan and iain armitage in different decades obviously. when i play him he's kind of near the end of his rope and unhealthy, and we sort of had the choice between getting bloated, and getting a lite emaciated, and it just seemed healthier to get emaciated. [ laughter ] >> seth: i mean neither is a great option, but i guess of the two. i should note you do this often, this was i think last time we saw you, you were in this kind t shape for a role. so you can really m all. that's right in the middle of bloated and emaciated, right there. by the way, you seem way too jacked for how little those weigs are. [ laughter ] >> yeah. >> seth: like, i'm not saying you're faking it. the arms are jacked, but i feel like they could have gotten some regger weights for the pic >> no, i was doing like 80 reps with those. >> seth: yeah, exactly. you would have to. all the other guys were using all the big weights. so you were like, i'm gonna have
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to do this a thousand times. where did you meet your wife? >> i met my wife on a broadway tour of "peter pan." >> seth: "peter pan." >> yes. we were -- cathy rigby was 99 peter pan,-- i'm not going to say. and i was captain hook, and she joined us as the new tiger lily. >> seth: and we have a photo of you two. look at captain hook right there. [ laughter that is really fantastic. >> that is some subtle makeup there. [ laughter ] and both of our real hair, actually, in that photo. >> seth: wow. that's different times. >> yeah. [ laughter ] >> seth: and now, your kids rk on this film? did they -- >> yeah, yeah. our daughter has foolishly decided she wants to be an actor. she's a senior in high school. she did a little background work on it. and our son, who is in college studying music, contributed to the score, some autiful stuff. >> seth: you originally went to college for music as well, so
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that runs in the family. >> i did. yeah, yeah. yeah, they -- oddly they're a combination of their parents, it's weird. >> seth: that is -- but you founyour way, what happened that you went from music to acting? >> i kind of stumbled into it through a summer stock job that i got at the bigfork summer playhouse in bigfork, montana. [ applause ] where i got the job as a music e director the s you know, when i was going to school. they ended up really foolishly casting me as the lead in "brigadoon." >> seth: wow! >> because i could sing. >> seth: there you go. >> and then they found out that i didn't know how to act. anaudiences from across mo [ laughter ] >> seth: they slowly found out. >> i began to learn. >> seth: so yo finished doing -- or you did broadway forever, and that's the first time i saw you, was ho a broadway and then tv -- what's your first tv job? >> my first, first, first was a little one day thing on a tv
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vie in whatever, the lat '80s, called "popeye doyle." >> seth: popeye doyle from "the french connection." >> yes. e wio'neill playing the gene hackman character, who was a prince by the way, to , as a little peon day player.bu then it was years after that before i did a couple of guest spots. really the first thing that got me a little bit of attention was "oz" on hbo. [ applause ] >> seth: yeah, oz, and -- >> which coincidentally, my wife, the director, writer, etc., michelle schumachewas also an actor on "oz." she had an arc over the course of two ssons of "oz" as well. >> seth: oh, that's fantastic. you know, for people who msed it, it really was -- that was one of the first, i think -- people have pointed this out multiple times, but that was sortf the pre-sopranos beginning of prestige television, especially on hbo. when y went into it, since there was nothing really ti ex on television that was like it, what was your expectation going into that
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role? >> ell, i mean i had done o guest spot on "homicide" which was -- tom fontana was the creator of both shows. >> seth: yeah. a fantastic show as well. >> brilliant guy. and that was what led think of me to play this swell character on "oz."h, >> seth: yt should be pointed out, vern schillinger is one of the all-time worst guys ever on television.w. >> you k >> seth: yeah. >> i mean, head of the aryan brotherhood, not a bad guy apart fromhat. >> seth: yeah, yeah. he could sing. he knew all the lines from "brigadoon." [ laughter ] >> yeah, i actually -- i mean that was from hunger. i was likesomebody was offering me a series on hbo, and i almost talked my way out of it because i was terrified of being type cast as the nazi of the week for the rest of my career. >> seth: sure. that's not a sil thing to worry about. >> yeah. yeah, yeah, and i was very fortunate that shortly after ed that, they ae to play the shrink on "law and order." so i had this sort of yin-yang. >> seth: yeah, they were going -- at the same time you were on both shows. which was really nice. >> yeah. >> seth: you were a very nice man in one. ea sometimes on the same day. >> seth: would youy work on the same day? >> i would be the psychiatrist in the morning, and then go be the ychotic in the afternoon
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[ laughter ] >> seth: usually when people do that, they then have to go sat their psycst. >> oh, i did that too. >> seth: you did that too. [ applause ] when you guys -- did you -- it did strike me that that was w - >> was that just for psychiatry in general? >> seth: i think there's a lot of -- yeah, there's a convention. >> ah. >> seth: did you -- it seemed to ofme like a very high leve actor for that show. a lot of people, it struck me, a lot of people from theater. and it was very interesting because you knyo, obviously re all playing inmates in a maximum security prison. what was it like on that set? were people -- i know this is strange to say, were people having a good time on a show rk that was so >> you know, the first year most of us were just theater weenies trying to play tough guys. >> seth: yeah. >> chuck zito, being the a,ception. >> seth: okay, goteah. >> actual tough guy. and i think there was a kind of, you know quest for, you know, credibility there. you know, a little strutting around. >> set right. >> but -- >> seth: even if you get into fake jail, you feel that sense
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to like -- >> yeah. really, the second season, i edink we all sort of gelled and everybody just reland it became a little more like summer camp, you know, messing around, being idiots. >> seth: just like being back at old bigfork. >> just like bigfork. [ laughter ] >> seth: thanks for being here, j.k.so it's alwayreat to see you. j.k. simmons. "i'm not here" opens in select cities, and is available on demand march 8th. we'll be right back. [ cheers and applause ] ♪ ♪
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