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captioning made possible by johnson & johnson, where quality products for the american family have been a tradition for generations >> osgood: good morning. i'm charles osgood and this is sunday morning. they're among the earliest words a young child ever hears: parental instruction that remains vivid for a lifetime: don't forget to wash your hands. the fear of germs is what motivates all the hand washing warnings. these days the fear of germs
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is at a new fever pitch fueling the sale of hand washing products, provoking a back wash of public confusion as well. david pogue will be reporting our cover story. >> reporter: it's flu season and nothing is scarier than all those germs out there. oh, my gosh. i'm a walking virus box. but what's the best way to protect ourselves from germs? >> my suggestion is if your hands smell bad, wash them. >> reporter: no need to wash my hands after elevator buttons or keyboards or toilet? >> absolutely not. >> david: what? later on sunday morning, the art and science of washing your hands. >> osgood: george w. bush the 43rd president of the united states is retired now. and at home in texas. he's a man who saw no need to stay in washington any longer than he had to. former president has just published a book about his life and times. this morning he and his first
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lady laura bush will be visited by our jim axelrod. >> come, barny. >> reporter: after eight tumultuous and controversial years in the white house, george and laura bush are quietly settled back in texas where it all began. i know that you are very happy to be back here. >> living what i call the after life in the state that george calls the promised land. >> reporter: the after life in the promised land. turns out it's dallas and now. >> that's right. >> reporter: later on sunday morning, a glimpse into the after life of george and laura bush. >> osgood: diane keaton is a one of a kind actress with a one of a kind style. this morning she'll discuss the ups and downs of her career with katie couric. >> couric: she's been in everything from epic dramas.... >> in russia women have the vote which is more than you can say tore this country. >> reporter: to comedy classics. >> i have to have a conference
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with the doctor. doctor, come over here. >> reporter: early on she was hardly a casting director's dream. you don't get the part because you're too kooky. >> i was a little off center. oh, you mean fun? that's really not nice. >> reporter: the delightfully off-centered diane keaton later on sunday morning. >> osgood: did your nickers used to whistle when you walk? if you're my age they did. boys did werenickers in my youth and they whistled because they were made of cord roy. bill geist will introduce you this morning to an inspiring man of the cloth. >> reporter: one love. one cord roy. >> miles rowen believes if everyone wore cord roy the world would be a better place. >> i don't think you could commit a murder or rob a bank while wearing cord roy. >> cord roy now and cord roy forever. >> reporter: the annual meeting of the cord roy appreciation club later on
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sunday morning. i bought these especially for the occasion. >> osgood: also this morning jeff green field will visit gary trudeau. michelle miller remembers the real life heroism behind an iconic norman rockwell painting. all that and more but first the headlines for this sunday morning the 14th of november, 2010. president obama is en route home. the president landed in alaska this morning after a ten-day trip to asia. it brought him to four different countries. air force one is due to touch down in washington later in the day. aung san su. kyi is voing to keep fighting for reform in mean mar. she addressed a crowd of supporters just hours after she was freed from seven years of house arrest. rahm emanuel until just recently president obama's chief of staff announced yesterday that he is indeed running for mayor of chicago.
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93-year-old zsa zsa gabor is back home after being admitted to a los angeles hospital the other day for treatment of a leg infection. thousands of items from the new york city pent house of bernie madoff went on the auction block yesterday. proceeds will go to the more than 3,000 people madoff swindled in his ponzi scheme. here's today's weather. the storm front is moving its way across the nation's mid section bringing snow to the great lakes and rain all the way down to texas. unseasonably cool week lies ahead with a chance of more wet weather in the northern states. ahead, dunes bury turns 40. but first to wash or not to
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germs. viruses and bacteria can make you sick. while nobody wants to come down with a germ-born illness, not everybody agrees on the best way to prevent that. our sunday morning cover story is reported now by david pogue of the "new york times". >> i've become the slightest bit obsessed with washing my hands lately. not like compulsive just confused. meal time everybody wash your hands.
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kills 99.9% of most common germs. >> dudes, you shouldn't be using that anti-bacterial soap. it lets the longest germs survive and you're breeding super bugs. >> reporter: all this conflicting advice is making me crazy. but, hey, i am cbs news. i have the resources. i can get to the scientists who know the truth about washing your hands. >> just think about singing through happy birthday twice while you're washing your hands. where does that come from? >> well, i think the whole idea is to make sure that you get your hands clean and do it long enough. >> reporter: dr. john voice is chief of infectious diseases at a hospital in new haven connecticut. he spent three years creating the nation's official washing hands guidelines for centers for disease control. to see what different timing makes in washing your hands he suggested that i cover my hands with a simulated germ lotion that glows under black light. phase 1, wash my hands the way most people do quickly.
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>> okay, great. oh, my god! >> reporter:. >> did you miss some of them. >> reporter: a little bit. oh, man. >> those are the areas you didn't get. >> reporter: fingernails. i'm a walking virus box. .this time use the proper technique. >> reporter: happy birthday to you. phase 2. wash my hands the proper way. long enough to sing happy birthday twice through. 20 seconds. ♪ you look like a monkey and you smell like one too ♪ okay. this time, well, i did a much better job. still not getting my fingernails. i thought i got those. >> that's the part that is the toughest to remember to do is the finger tips and the tips of your thumbs. >> reporter: the next thing i wanted to find out soap and water or alcohol rubs like purel? dr. voice proposed a test that requireded getting my hands good and germy.
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okay. i'm back. my hands are completely contaminated. thank you. >> oh, no. okay. let's go a culture here. just put your fingers in here like this and make contact with that plate. that's good. like that. >> reporter: 48 hours later dr. voice photographed the results. here's where i put my contaminated hand. it's like a bacteria rain forest. and here is after soap and water. conclusion? soap and water does get rid of germs. and now the second experiment. doctor, administer the purel. it doesn't have to be purel, right? there's other brands.
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>> there's a variety of different brands out there. >> reporter: this time the results were nearly identical. before the alcohol rub and after. basically purel does about the same job as soap and water. that doesn't surprise chris nunez who oversaw purel at johnson and johnson until it sold purel last month. >> when soap and water are not available, use an alcohol-based hand rub like purel. with soap and water you're talking about the mechanical action of rubbing off the bacteria. when you're using purel, the ethel alcohol works by disrupting the member brain on the cell walls of the bacteria and killing off the bacteria. >> reporter: let's face it. people's fear of germs is at an all-time high thanks to new super bugs like swine flu, sars and mersa. germ-killing equipment is big business. you can buy home air sanitizers like this one from guardian technologies where chuck thur is director of engineering.
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>> what we do is pull the air in from the bottom. most germs and things are heavier than air. running across the light and exhaust it off the top. >> reporter: have you noticed a rise in interest in the kinds of things you guys make? >> i believe so, yes. we started out in 2005. we've doubled in size every year. >> reporter: hospitals are experimenting with an enormous array of germ-killing machinery. >> 15 seconds. please leave our room. >> reporter: are you kidding me? it talks? >> right. it's just to make sure that there is nobody in the room. (the computer is talking) >> reporter: you're happy now. wait until you have a robot uprising on your hands. there's only one problem with all of this germ killing. not everybody agrees it's good for our health. maybe the standards for hospitals where people are really sick should not be applied to normal healthy kids. >> happy baby, happy pigy. see the smile on the pig's face. >> reporter: you wouldn't run
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for the purel and scrub that baby's tongue. >> absolutely. i would encourage that kids lick at fingers and come in and have lunch. it's very difficult for your immune system. >> reporter: this doctor taught at medical schools for 30 years and now works with doctors preparing for their certifications. her book is called "why dirt is good." mary, i'm guessing this book was not a big best seller. >> (laughing) >> reporter: you're telling young mothers.... >> why is this heresy? the illness we have in childhood give us memory cells so that we don't get those same illnesses as assaults. >> reporter: are we saying what i was told by my mom which is that every time you get some bug, you have trained your body not to get sick from it the next time. >> that is exactly right. >> reporter: according to this doctor, children from overly sanitized environments develop immune systems that can turn against themselves bringing with them allergies and other
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auto immune diseases. >> lupus. there's rheumatoid arthritis. there's a diabetes. these diseases happen when your body attacks itself. if you understand how the immune system is designed to work, it makes perfect sense that the only way you can get a strong system is to exercise it. >> reporter: what should the average person be doing about hand washing? >> my suggestion is if your hands smell bad, wash them. >> reporter: and when you do wash your hands, she says, don't use anti-bacterial soap. >> those will have chemicals in them that will cause the bacteria to evolve in a bad way. it kills the easy ones and it leaves behind the ones we can't kill. >> reporter: okay. i think i have it now. you should wash your hands with soap and water for 20 seconds and not anti-bacterial soap. if you don't have soap and water, you can use an alcohol
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rub unless you want to build up your immune system so you get sick less. in that case you should stop trying to kill the germs and wash your hands less often. okay. i got it. from now on, i'll just wash one hand. >> osgood: ahead, the prince and the lost princess. [ woman ] you know, as a mom,
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now a page from our sunday morning almanac. november 14, 1948. 62 years ago today. a day of joy for britain's royals. for that was the day princess elizabeth, first in line to the throne, gave birth to her first son, prince charles philip arthur george. upon her father's death in 1952, elizabeth became queen. and at her coronation the young charles was among the on- lookers. in the years that followed the people of britain and much of the rest of the world watched the hare to the throne grow to manhood.
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>> you have a sense of duty. i think i have. then service is something that you give yourself to people. >> reporter: his formal name, prince of wales in 1969, was full of pomp and pageantry. while his marriage to diana spencer in 1981 invariably described as a fairy tale wedding captured the imagination of the world. diana gave birth to two princes, william and harry. and won wide support for her charitable causes yet behind the public front of official duties and ceremonys charles and diana's fairy tale marriage was descending into soap opera ending in divorce in 1996. diana died in a car crash just one year later. the whole world saw prince charles walk with his sons to diana's funeral at westminster
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abbey. on the other hand, the world was kept outside in 2005 when prince charles married camilla parker-bowles in a private civil ceremony. today queen elizabeth still reigns. in an age when some men are thinking about retirement, prince charles has yet to start the job for which he has preparing all his life. long live the queen. and long waits the prince. next, mike doonesbury's alter ego. >> put it on a light table. and had your shoes shined. well, i made you a reservation at the sushi place around the corner. well, in that case, i better get back to these invoices... which i'll do right after making your favorite pancakes. you know what? i'm going to tidy up your side of the office. i can't hear you
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beginning. >> the building is closed at 7:00 p.m. >> reporter: the tunnels that engulfed so many college campuses in the '60s reached even i'vey coverd yale university in 1970. but by then, 22-year-old senior gary trudeau had already begun to chronicle that tumult and the steps and missteps of his generation in just four panels a day. before he graduated, the strip, now names doonesbury, became nationally syndicated. sold as.... >> dispatches as the front lines from the counterculture. reporting from the trenches. and it had a kind of generational authenticity. >> reporter: now four decades later, this crowded yale has come not to protest but to celebrate the 40 years of the strip. some have come to buy a lavishly illustrated $100 doonesbury retrospective.
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a hefty bridge across a generation gap. >> i'm getting the book because i know my parents are big fans. >> reporter: they're also there to attend a celebration of a trudeau exhibit at yale's rare book and manuscript library. bull tales focused on a star quarterback named vd, not so coincidentally the initials of number 10 down there on the field who has always treated the strip with grace and good humor. >> my 15 minutes of fame lasted 40 years. >> reporter: the strip was never really just about a football player. it was about characters like mike doonesbury the clueless undergrad, zonker the ult ultimate slacker. and the emerging feminist. >> it is watching a generation come of age. now it's two generations who have come of age. >> reporter: when the strip was launched an older generation of publishers
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recoiled at the idea of politics especially trudeau's unabashedly liberal politics on the comics page. not to mention the site of an unmarried couple in bed. >> maybe some three dozen newspapers dropped it. >> reporter: trudeau despaired only to be encourage by his syndicateor over a dinner. >> he said don't worry. these guys die. damned if he wasn't right. as the years unfolded people began saying, well, maybe there is room on the comics page for a strip about all the things that my generation were concerned about, politics, rock'n'roll, sex, drugs and particularly war. >> reporter: in 193 at the top of his game, trudeau took a 20- month sabbatical. when the strip returned, trudeau expelled his characters from the timeless college campus setting. >> i had the strip lurch into realtime and all the characters were thrown out into the real world. none of them are gainfully
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employed or have any security in their lives, have stable relationships. you know, that's just the horrible things that writers do to their characters. >> reporter: this is decidedly not a case of art imitating life. trudeau's professional successes include a pulitzer prize, a broadway show, an animated special, and more than 50 collections that have sold seven million copies worldwide. on the home front, he has been married for 30 years to jane pauley. >> our pal here is getting married next week to a little known cartoonist. >> reporter: tom brokaw had introduced them. >> it totally took. he married me because i was a girlfriend that was so low maintenance that, you know, we can have a date. i went home and he could go back to work. >> reporter: and the fact that both had earned great success at an early age helped cement the bond. >> maybe what attracted gary to me is that i appeared not to have been, you know, any
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more taken with the fame thing than he was. >> kind of earned a reputation as being a bad cartoonist in the first years of his career. >> reporter: brian walker, like father mort, is a cartoonist. he works on beatle bailey and hi and lois and authored this new examination of gary trudeau's art. >> he wanted to experiment with other styles, started using more close-ups and silhouettes. >> reporter: nowhere was trudeau's artistic reach more dramatic than when he put someone into a fire fight in the iraq war that led to an utterly unexpected image. >> he gets him on a stretcher. they're moving towards the chopper. it's only on the third day that we pull back and we see that he's missing a leg. we also see that he's missing his helmet which is the first time in 36 years that he had been without it. >> reporter: this episode changed trudeau's life. he began to spend time at v.a.hospitals listening to
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fighting men and women, something he talked about at that yale celebration. >> i worry i might not be getting it right. it's important to me that both the wounded and their caregivers understand that his story is not told at their expense. it's told in their honor. >> reporter: as for the strip, most of his original players are in their early 60s now. but will trudeau ever take the step of writing the last, final terminal chapter of their lives? >> i have a feeling that newspapers, the industry that i am part of, may go off a cliff before my characters do. >> reporter: which would still leave a remarkable legacy for a simple comic strip. >> did you leave the world in a better place than you found it? >> oh, i think so. absolutely. >> osgood: just ahead at home with former president george w. bush.
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>> oh, you mean fun. that's really not nice. >> osgood: and later, katie couric visits diane keaton.
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>> it's sunday morning on cbs and here again is charles
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osgood. >> osgood: president george w. bush dominated the headlines for eight eventful years. but he's purposely stayed pretty much out of the spotlight until now with his new memoir. jim axelrod covered the bush white house for cbs news. he talked to president and mrs. bush at their new home in texas. >> reporter: it turns out that on january 20, 2009, no one was more ready for george w. bush to move on than mr. bush himself. >> the last i saw both of you i was on the ground at andrews. you were walking up the stairs. at what point on that trip did you look at each other and say, my goodness gracious, it's over. >> to me it ended right then. >> reporter: immediately? you mean as you're taking off from the capital to get to andrews you know it's over. >> it's over and we're starting a new chapter in our life. it's clear to me.
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we had given it our all and we were headed home. >> reporter: home to texas where george bush is still a favorite son. i know that you are very happy to be back here. >> living what i call the after life in the state that george calls the promised land? >> reporter: the after life in the promised land. turns out it's dallas and now. >> that's right. >> i think the title of this wall should be george and laura are blessed with great family and a lot of wonderful friends. >> come on, barny. >> reporter: at their new home in north dallas, george and laura bush are happily settling into that after life. and if you're wondering whether mr. bush is mired in any second-guessing of the decisions he made as president, forget it. you're telling me you sleep well at night. >> i sure do. especially if i'm riding my mountain bike hard. when i looked in the mirror when i got home i was proud of
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what i saw. >> reporter: the next chapter of his life won't include any tortured soul searching. >> after eight years of being the president and making a lot of decisions which i chronicle a lot of them here in this book i knew i did not compromise principle in order to affect my standing in the short term. >> reporter: the book is "decision points." an examination of the critical decisions that defined his presidency. the first voice the reader gets is your voice. when is the last day you can remember not having a drink? it opens on a personal note with a decision he says made all the others possible. the decision to stop drinking that he made at his wife's urging 24 years ago. what do you remember about the motivation that you needed to say something to your husband? >> well, i just thought george was drinking too much. i knew that he didn't want to live like that. we had a little girl.
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we were 40 years old. so i would say to him. also i wrote about this in my book, my dad drank a lot. and i didn't really want to have that in my family. >> reporter: were you drinking too much or were you an alcoholic? >> i probably was drinking too much. my quitting didn't require an extensive program. therefore, i guess or i assume that mine was an addiction not a genetic predisposition to drink. i guess the best way to put it. i had a conflict between my desire to drink and my desire to be a good husband and dad. it seemed to me alcohol was winning. >> reporter: mr. bush writes about everything from running for president to the stem cell debate to 9/11 to the iraq war. and the weapons of mass destruction that saddam hussein didn't have. you write about iraq that no
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one was more shocked or angry than i was when we didn't find the weapons. i had a sickening feeling every time i thought about it. i still do. >> right. >> reporter: what was sickening? >> well, because sickening is the fact that so many people felt that that was the only reason we went in to liberate iraq. the case itself became undermined. it frankly... the failure to find weapons of mass destruction in some ways let saddam off the hook. >> reporter: didn't it undermine the legitimacy of the u.s. invading? >> well, you know, that's part of the problem. in some people's minds they said, wait a minute. if this is the main part of the case, we made a mistake. i don't think... i don't agree with that. i think that the liberation of iraq not only makes america more secure, it gives 25 million people a chance to live in a free society. that free society over time will have a transformative
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effect in the middle east. >> reporter: and so the liberation, in your view, justifies everything. >> i think in my view what justifies everything is the removal of a threat. in other words, the decision to leave him in power, in my judgment, would have been a decision that could have created enormous chaos in the world. one could envision a nuclear arms race between saddam and iran. then they'd have been saying, wait a minute. the failure to act created enormous stress. >> reporter: failure to act could have been the subtitle of the chapter on hurricane katrina. this man who saw decisive as his political brand.... >> i'm the decider. i decide what is best. >> reporter:... found his presidency undermined by his delay. why was katrina the one event where you took too long to decide? >> i got caught up in the
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legal system. it's not excuse. i'm just giving you the facts. >> reporter: you're the president of the united states. >> i know. but in this case in order to send troops into new orleans, the law says that the governor must declare an emergency and request or i have to declare an insurrection. in retrospect. now knowing what i know today which is exactly what you get to do when you're sitting there, i would have sent in troops quicker. >> reporter: there was a common feeling that after katrina, you could never fully regain the trust of the american people. >> i felt katrina was a part of a very difficult period for my presidency. in other words, i said let's reform social security and the republican congress didn't. iraq was very difficult in '06. katrina was just a part of a
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narrative that, you know, began to undermine me personally with some of the... a lot of the republicans for that matter. >> reporter: the long knives were out which is when the white house can be at its lonelyiest. how does it work, mrs. bush? do you offer a point of view, criticism, when you're in the heat of it? >> sure. all of those things. but not a lot of criticism. there are plenty of critics already for who lives in the white house. that's just not really our relationship. did we talk about issues? sure. i also knew when he came home late in the afternoon from the oval office that what he wanted to do was sit with me and work on the jigsaw puzzle that we worked on and watch baseball or football on television or some other sport and relax. we always have had the comfort of each other's presence. i knew that's what he wanted and needed at home. >> reporter: not that she ever
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held back, when she felt he needed her unvarnished opinion. >> i'll give you a few examples when you said i was going down the road. like you better watch your language, buster. >> well, that kind of thing for sure. >> there's an old poster out west that i recall that said wanted dead or alive. i remember when i said that and i got back and she said, it wasn't a harsh tone. it was like, hey, you probably could put this a little better. i said everybody understood what i meant. i was a little defensive i must confess. her point was you're the president. your plain spoken but sometimes your plain spokenness sends the wrong signals. >> reporter: to this day she remains his biggest protector and quick on the draw. in terms of how you understand how you are perceived is there a liberal bias in the media? >> (laughing) >> yes. he doesn't have to answer that. i will. >> reporter: why do you jump in so quickly? >> no, i'm only kidding. i really don't know.
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but i will say this. i really do see for most americans a great feeling of affection for george. -you don't read about it. yes, i think there is sort a conventional wisdom put out by the press. >> reporter: that conventional wisdom tilts left. >> yes. >> reporter: the book is his chance to take on what he says are miss con... misconceptions like the one about the shadow president. >> the question i always get the most is was cheney running the place? >> (laughing) you know, we laugh because... and i'm sure dick cheney would laugh. anybody who is in the white house would laugh because that's one of the myths that arise when you're the president. you know, dick cheney came to me and he said, if you want to replace me, do it. which i thought was unbelieveably magnanimous. >> reporter: any part of you think if i do this and replace him, that will put an end to all this. >> that's exactly right. that would have help eliminate
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the myth. but the problem with that logic is that i hated job he was doing. cheney is a friend. he did a great job as vice president. it would have been incredibly self-serving and shallow to have made a decision about my vice president based upon some misperception. this is a very dramatic picture. that is right after the 2001 inauguration. >> reporter: another misperception, he says, is that there was some deep seated rivalry with his dad. >> when people read this book, they're going to realize that my relationship with my father is based upon admiration and love and appreciation, that he gave me great gift and that is unconditional love. >> reporter: that's another myth that can be disposed of that there was some shakespeareian drama being played out. >> reporter: their home in dallas is is where george and laura bush want to focus their energy now and return to as much of a normal life as a former president could have.
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>> it was an interesting experience. we walk in this neighborhood and realize i hadn't done that in over a decade. barny had never done it. all of a sudden i got a plastic bag in my hand picking up that which i had been dodging for eight years. >> reporter: symbolic. while some things about him now might surprise you.... >> i think it's very telling that on your wall we don't see any world leaders but we do see siegfried and roy. no one will believe this. you realize that. >> particularly siegfried and roy. >> reporter: for the most part former president george w. bush is very much the man you remember. >> i am a content perb... person. i am a content person. i stuck by my principles. in other words, i didn't sell my soul for politics. i came out of eight interesting years a better person.
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my family is strong. my friends are my friends. >> reporter: chances are george bush's critics will remain infuriated. his supporters enthusiastic. and his book won't change too many minds on either side. a philosopher once said you live life forward. you understand it looking backward. >> very good. >> reporter: when you look backward, what is your biggest regret? >> i got regrets in not finding weapons of mass destruction because, as we discussed earlier, that undermined the case for us, for some for us being there. i regret not bringing osama bin laden to justice. i mean, dead or alive, neither case took place when i was president. i regret mission accomplished. there are a lot of things i wish i could have done over. but in life you don't get to
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after 25 years in the aviation business, i kind of feel like if you're not having fun at what you do, then you've got the wrong job. my landing was better than yours. no, it wasn't. yes, it was. was not. yes, it was. what do you think? take one of the big ones out? nah. >> osgood: is there room for time-honored tradition in a modern security force? alan pizzey has the answer in this postcard. >> reporter: a bugle call at the break of day impeccably turned the attention as the flag is is raised, a military tradition common across the world.
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this one is the daily ritual of the italy's oldest regiment. founded by the duke of savoy in 1667 they have maintained the look and spirit of calvary unit along with other unique features. not only are all its members a minimum of 63 inches tall an anomaly in and of itself where 5'6" is the norm they're based in the heart of rome. originally the guardians of italy's kings they now serve as ceremonial guards for the state's president which means that even to go out for a morning workout, the horses have to be able to function without batting an eye at the chaos and distraction of one of the most traffic-choked cities in europe. the walk is good training and what better or more appropriate place could there be to practice formations than
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the watering of the horses? the horses are all from ireland, chosen for their color, disposition, and especially one other essential. >> the man has to be tall but the horse too. >> reporter: that means being a minimum of 5'7" at the shoulders. it takes six months to train and rider to perform the intricate maneuvers, wheels and turns that are part of every ceremonial occasion. experienced riders are paird with new horses and vice versa. is it more difficult to train the horse or the rider? >> we try to get the best relationship between rider and horses. >> reporter: built on one of the fabled seven hills of rome, the barracks was once a convent. when the basement was excavated, this appeared. mosaics that were part of
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homes belonging to the family of the emperor who succeeded the mad man nero in the year 69. maybe that's why the pomp and ceremony they provide for both tourists and visiting heads of state is on what might be called an imperial scale or perhaps it's just another example of italian style. they call this their grand gala or high ceremonial uniform. it includes 25 pounds of armor and has been described as the most beautiful example of its genre in the world which, unless you are italian is admittedly a somewhat subjective judgment. but there is no doubting the history or the pride with which it is worn. >> we want to become a part of this because we are a sort of elite. >> reporter: the uniforms, the immaculate grooming and the discipline of both horses and riders are more than mere pageantry. the name translates as the shield. filling that role in modern
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times requires capables that are anything but ceremonial. this is the site the public doesn't see. the unit is actually a branch of the elite. it provides the close protection squad for visiting heads of state and the italian president. both when he is out in public and inside his official residence. but there's no doubting what they like most about their job. one said the horses are not implements for work. they're a companion in work. the unit has its own black smithing facilities. and if the matters are anything like their human counterparts the smiths might provide well what may be every woman's dream, a pedestrian cure and new shoes every 40 days whether they need them or not. and naturally as servants of the state, the horses are eligible for state health care including regular check-ups.
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the working life of this horse ranges from 15 to 17 years. and when it's time to retire, they come here to the country home of the state president they served. a plaque paying homage to what it calls the silent soldiers so the land has been set aside so they might spend their old age in a natural answer even environment, a tradition any working horse would envy. >> osgood: next? >> i think all of them were
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we don't usually think of sunday as a school day. there's an important history less ton to be learned today in the city of new orleans. michelle miller takes us back.
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>> reporter: this block in the ninth ward neighborhood of new orleans sits quiet today. the school here abandoned after hurricane katrina. but in 1950, this was the raucous center of a tumultuous civil rights battle. >> a break in the color line. a new orleans girl goes to school. >> reporter: now 56, the memories flow easily for ruby bridges, the little girl who integrated william france school, protected by a team of federal marshals. >> there were lots of people outside screaming and shouting. the police officers. but i thought it was mardi gras. you know? i didn't actually know that all of that was there because of me. >> reporter: the city exploded into sometimes violent protests and an ugly mob picketed
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outside the school. but ruby's parents determined to challenge the segregation laws uneasily september their daughter into harm's way. were you ever afraid? >> there were days when they would come and they would bring a baby's coffin. inside this baby's coffin was a black doll. i used to have nightmares about the coffin. >> reporter: many... (no audio) from this painting she inspired by norman rockwell which remain one of the most popular at the rockwell museum. >> by looking.... >> reporter: known for his sweetly innocent and patriotic portrayals of american life, this was a stunning departure for rockwell. >> here was another person that, you know, in his own way wanted to show the world that what was happening during the civil rights movement was wrong. >> reporter: other heroes were closer to home. when white parents pulled their children out and boycotted the newly integrated schools, one parent was the
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first to break rank. >> i simply want the privilege of taking my child to school. >> reporter: methodist minister lloyd forman took his daughter pam and without the benefit of federal protection walked straight through that same terrible crowd. that school year was the last time ruby and pam foreman were together at the school. >> hello. >> reporter: until now. >> how are you? >> reporter: pam and ruby shared their separate but equally painful memories. >> daddy always called it the longest walk. because in my case our own white race was against us. i mean we had bomb threats. we had to move out of the house. it was terrible. >> reporter: why do you think your father stood his ground in face of all of that? >> because of his faith in god and his beliefs that every
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child, regardless of their race, deserved a right to an education. >> this was your classroom? >> reporter: integration was token at best. only five white children returned to school that year. but even they were kept well clear of ruby who went through the first grade entirely by herself. how did you know they were here? >> i would come into the coat closet to take off my coat when it got really cold. i could hear voices. but i never saw them. every day i would come in here and i would just stand just to see if i could hear them. >> that is the message i want you to keep with you. >> reporter: ruby spends much of her time these days speaking to school tirn. but many of new orleans' schools including france elementary have been effectively resegregated by whites. was it all for nothing? was there progress? >> i entered this building to
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integrate the school. if we are going to get past our racial differences, it's going to come from our kids. but they have to be together to do that. >> osgood: ahead, the cat that got the cream. >> this is the golden age of corduroy. >> osgood: and later bill geist has a tale from whole cloth.
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>> osgood: nothing says tail manners quite like a cat lapping up its milk. now thanks to an article in the latest issue of science magazine we know exactly how cats do it. intrigued by his own cat, roman stocker of m.i.t., and three other researchers launched a full-scale investigation. using a high speed camera, the scientists discovered that cats curl their tongues
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downward so that the tip just barely touches the surface. the liquid sticks to the tongue. as the cat pulls its tongue up, a thin column of liquid briefly follows. then just at the moment gravity starts to pull the stream of liquid down the cat snaps its jaws shut trapping the liquid in its thirsty little mouth. it all happens too fast to be seen by the naked human eye. the cat's tongue is moving by a speed of roughly three feet per second the optimal optimum speed for the task. contrast that technique to the one used by dogs who noisely lap up water through sheer brute force with no finesse at all. to animal lovers it's no secret that there's a difference between a dog and a cat. the dog is outgoing everyday without fail it greets all its loved ones by wagging its tail. when it's thirsty its one greatest wish is to messly
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slobber from its water dish. a cat, on the other hand, drinks more discreetly, more quietly too and a whole lot more neatly. and not only neater but cleaner and faster. that fluid mechanics it's the cat whose the master. that's what the scientists say is the case though the dog is top dog at licking your face. >> welcome back to day break. >> osgood: next, catching up with diane keaton. i can't believe i used to swing over those rocks...
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>> the boys usually just call me juan eat a. >> juanita. >> it's sunday morning on cbs. and here again is charles osgood. >> osgood: withstand-out roles in movies like love and death in 975, diane keaton has endeared herself to audiences everywhere. and still does so. here's "cbs evening news" anchor katie couric with our sunday profile. >> oh, no. is is this the best they could offer? oh, geez, i had hoped for something with at least decent features. >> reporter: the last four decades diane keaton has played quirky outsider, radical, hairy, maternal, independent. >> incredibly complex woman. >> i guess you could say i'm half saint half whore.
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>> reporter: in fusing every character with a lot of diane keaton. >> you play very well. >> oh, yeah, so do you. oh, god, what a dumb thing to say, right? i mean you say it and then right away i have to say you play well. >> couric: her oscar-winning turn came in annie hall in 1977. >> ladeda, la-la. >> i never said that in my life until he wrote it. but i was a person who couldn't complete a sentence. he did get that right. >> welcome back to day break. >> couric: in her new movie morning glory, she plays colleen peck, morning show anchor. >> i still have standards unfortunately for you. >> i don't have standards? >> sure you do. when you got your pap smear on air you wore a silk robe. classy touch. >> i mean obviously i want to
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emulate you. >> couric: oh, yeah. i thought you were a good anchor. >> you did. >> couric: i did. >> how about the way i delivered the lines hoe? a little dicey because, you know, i lead with my personality. diane's personality. i feel like it's okay for me to have the run-ons. in life. diane. but you can't do that with what you do. you cannot. >> couric: i don't have to worry about you being on my heels. >> i'm not. i can't do it. >> couric: of course not because the only thing she's really ever wanted to do is... sing? >> i wanted to sing. i thought i was going to be a singer. i did everything i could to be a singer. ♪ this is the dawning of the age of aquarius ♪ >> couric: and sing she did on broadway no less in the musical "hair." she was 22. >> you know, singing. >> reporter: do you have a good voice? >> yeah, it's great. of course not. >> couric: it must be pretty good if you had fantasies. >> i tons of fantasies. tons of fantasies.
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i did have a little solo. my song was black boys are delicious. black boys are delicious, chocolate flavored treats, lick ris lips like candy. keep my cocoa handy. that's my thing. i don't think i'm going to get any jobs singing any time soon. i'd like to. i still have aspirations. >> couric: really? >> do you think i have a chance? should i try again? give me a shot. >> couric: knock yourself out, diane. somebody is watching. >> yeah, somewhere somebody is watching. >> couric: at the time someone was watching. woody allen. allen and diane keaton would go on to form one of the great on screen off screen partnerships of the 1970s but first keaton would have to measure up literally. >> i had a huge crush on woody right from the moment i saw
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him. i was auditioning for play it again, sam. he was 5'7". you know, he was a relatively short... he is a relatively short fellow. so they put us head to head and they measured it. i got the part because i wasn't taller than he was. this is like the way it began. he was hilarious. >> he gets it right between the eyes. >> he'll do it. he'll do it. i've seen him shoot a nose. >> reporter: in keaton woody allen had found his foil. >> you don't realize you've been dealing with one of the greatest minds you've ever seen. >> yeah and his isn't so bad either. >> couric: take 1973's sleeper. >> i just liked being the side kick. he would say things that you can't even do a joke. he's right. he was very smart about it. he would like have me set up the joke for him. that's what i'm good at. being the idiot. >> couric: diane keaton is the master of self-depp indication
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but in truth she's not unlike her character in something's got to give. >> you're a tower of strength. >> couric: she's lived life on her own terms. she's always worked, never married, and didn't start a family until she turneded 50. >> you know i'm a late developer. >> couric: keaton says her mother dorothy who died in 2008 encouraged her daughter to just be herself and go for it. it was unexpected guidance from a woman who represented domestic perfection. >> my mother was mrs. los angeles. >> couric: and mrs. highland park before that, right? >> i can't forget that. that's a very moving thing. >> reporter: your life is in such stark contrast to your mom's who was sort of a domestic god he is, if you will. >> she was the find of mother who is the great enabler. she was always supporting me. every single thing i ever did. we were partners. >> reporter: if keaton's mom thought they are eldest daughter ought to be in pictures not everyone agreed.
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>> i would always fail because they would always say to me you're too kooky. you don't get the part because you're too kooky. >> couric: where did they get that idea? >> because i was a little off center. >> couric: oh, you mean fun? >> that's really not nice. of course just kidding. >> reporter: then in 1972, the godfather happened. >> michael, that man over there is talking to himself. i still think i was miscast. >> this one time that you ask me about my affairs. >> couric: when you watch that movie or when you watched it initially did you still feel that way? >> when i saw me, not the movie, the movie is absolutely brilliant. was the wig is horrible. >> couric: what was it like working with al pacino because you guys were involved in a relationship? >> not then. no, no. i would have liked it.
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call me frank. i mean he was beautiful and so talented. oh, my god. yeah, i had a big crush. >> reporter: things didn't heat up for them romantically until after the godfather part 2 but they proved to be two very different people. >> al was more of a real actor kind of really about acting. always. al was the kind of guy that if you're around him he'd read shakespeare. like he's doing the merchant of venice. like hello. i can't stand things like that. night after night doing a play? it's like my idea of hell. >> couric: keaton appreciates the many chances movie making gives her and warren beatty another long-time love taught her you can never do too many takes when they starred in the movie red nearly 30 years ago. >> i don't know if you ever saw that train station scene but we must have done that 64 times. i only got it on the last take. my feeling about a lot of takes is count me in. count me in.
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because if you're going to save me. >> reporter: what is your relationship like with these people now, diane? do they stay in your life? do you have friendships with these guys? >> some. woody is a friend. i saw him last night here in new york. i don't really see al. i don't warren. but i have great memories of them. it's fun to see warren as a father and al as well. both people that you never thought of as parents are now parents. >> david: and you of course are a mom now too. you have two kids. dexter and duke, right? >> right. >> david: you adopted your first child when you were 50. what motivated you to do that at that point in your life? >> well, it had a lot to do with my father's passing. because i think quite frankly that i liked being a daughter. i really enjoyed being a daughter. i don't think i wanted to be
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somebody who would take those, you know, parenthood on. until i had to accept that i had to move on. >> couric: why do you think you never got married? >> i think that the reason i didn't get married was because i would have to compromise too much. i think i took my cue from my mother there. i didn't want to have that. i wanted to try more adventurous things for myself. i think that i didn't know how. i was also afraid of men. >> couric: really? >> oh, yeah. i was afraid of men, yes. i was always being turned down or overlooked. you know, i saw myself as, you know, kind of a victim in that area. it was hard for me to kind of compromise. i think i wasn't really marriage material. >> couric: do you regret that some. >> yeah, in some ways i do. >> couric: today at 64, diane
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keaton's life is full. full of work, family, friends. all lovingly draped in her non-stop stream of consciousness and her own charm. you still seem to have that insecurity thing. >> oh, yeah. >> couric: unsure of yourself. >> yeah. it's been there since the beginning but i'm going to fight it. i'm going to keep going. i'm going to try as many things as i possibly can. except for flying. i don't want to fly. i talk to the pilots they all look at me like i'm crazy but i think they're crazy so how do you like that? i don't want to fly. i want to be adventurous but i don't want to fly. >> couric: are you okay? >> i'm obviously not. i think i need a shrink. somebody has got to put me down. >> couric: put her down. we're cracking down on medicare fraud.
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now to bob schieffer in washington for a look at what's ahead on face the nation. good morning, bob. >> schieffer: good morning, charles. well, is a partisan divide wider than ever? we'll ask the tea party favorite rand paul and democratic senator chuck schumer. >> osgood: thank you, bob. we'll be watching. ahead now here on sunday morning.... >> this is the corner. do you want to see it? >> osgood: bill geist. >> this is a corduroy jump suit. >> osgood: meets the consummate corduroy connoisseur. and like that, we had a new side to our business. [ male announcer ] when businesses see an opportunity, the hartford is there. protecting their employees and property and helping them prepare for the future. nice boots. nice bag. [ male announcer ] see how the hartford helps businesses at achievewhatsahead.com.
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>> osgood: whether you like wearing corduroy is a matter of personal taste. but it's hard to imagine a more devout fan of the material than the man of the cloth our bill geist just took the measure of. >> reporter: in fall our thoughts naturally turn to pumpkins and turkey. >> one corduroy. >> reporter: theirs turn to corduroy. >> i would call myself a corduroy enthusiast. >> reporter: you are? >> definitely. >> reporter: how so? do you wear it a lot? >> almost everyday actually. it's comfortable. >> i try to wear corduroy as much as i can when the weather gets cold. corduroy is a fabric that
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celebrates the rumbled american aesthetics that i appreciate and identify with. >> reporter: you had to wear at least two corduroy items to attend the annual meeting of the corduroy appreciation club in new york. held each year on 11-11, the date that most closely resembles corduroy itself. >> despite the turmoil on our small planet it was an excellent year for corduroy. >> reporter: miles rowan is founder and president. >> there is more corduroy in stores and on people. my friends, this is the golden age of corduroy. >> reporter: insdeed, this fabric often associated with laborers and professors is now trendy. shown on the world's fashion runways in a spread in gq magazine and on new couches in the oval office. >> stripey cotton love. >> reporter: this week's new york meeting featured corduroy poetry.
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>> all hail corduroy. ♪ corduroy > a corduroy song, appropriate ridged snacks. >> the first.... >> reporter: and secret rituals which we aren't allowed to show you but you're not missing much. >> no photography. >> reporter: members came decked out in corduroy head to toe. wide wales to pin wales, wales being the raised ribs on corduroy. the whale is the club's moss cot in their continual chant of... it had such an event requires much preparation and much corduroy. earlier miles stopped in to see the fabric czar in new york's garment district. >> this is like a corduroy tweed. this is a corduroy paisley. this is a corduroy here multi-stripe. >> i like that a lot. >> reporter: john the proprietor was a bit perplexed
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but he was going with it. >> i should have put out the corduroy carpet when you came in. >> i would love that. >> reporter: at home, miles, his wife jordana, daughter arbor and club official aaron were busy making corduroy backed membership cards. there are now 3500 members worldwide but it wasn't easy at the start. >> outside there was a sign that said do you like corduroy? people thought he was crazy. but some people were interested. >> reporter: why corduroy? >> i like to think of, you know, corduroy kind of brings out a certain sort of kindness in a person. it's difficult to be like mean or cruel or i don't think you could commit a murder while wearing corduroy or rob a bank. this is the corduroy club. do you want to see it. >> reporter: i don't know. his closet is is crammed with corduroy. >> this is a corduroy jump suit.
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corduroy cuff links. >> reporter: oh, my god. there isn't corduroy underwear is there? >> it's rumored to exist but no one has actually seen it. we march towards a better world. we march with courage, with conviction, with corduroy. >> reporter: the annual meeting closed with some fiery rhetoric from keynote speaker jesse thorn. >> corduroy forever. ( cheers and applause ) >> reporter: turning a fun- loving audience into something of a mob. >> corduroy! >> reporter: someone should keep an eye on this group. next november comes the ultimate date 11-11-11. and masses of aroused corduroyists. >> hail the whale. thank you. >> reporter: could spell trouble.
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