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captioning funded by cbs good morning. it is thursday, december 3rd, 2015. welcome to "cbs this morning." a married couple opens fire at a holiday party, killing 14 and wounding many more. norah o'donnell is on the scene of the massacre in san bernardino, california. >> we are hearing harrowing stories from the victims and learning new details about the shooters. but big questions still remain about why this happened. president obama tells us once again that stronger gun laws are needed. we will ask how speaker paul ryan, what can be done to prevent the next tragedy. we begin this morning with a look at today's "eye opener." your world in 90 seconds. based upon what we have seen and how they were equipped
er thd e hato be some of degree of planning that went into this. >> another mass shooting rocks the nation. >> just a shooting in san bernardino left 14 people dead and 17 injured. >> i was just numb. i was just in disbelief. >> after the attack the suspects were killed in the shoot-out. >> this was a fierce gun battle fierce gun battle. >> law enforcement agencies are working to figure out the exact motive. >> the one thing we do know is that we have a pattern now of mass shogsotin in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world. >> a report about sethe cret service now covered more than 140 breaches and investigators called the secret service an agency in crisis. >> britain has carried out air strikes in syria at this hour after parliament approved attacks on isis. >> we work with our allies to degrade or destroy this threat or do we sit back and wait for them to attack us? >> swiss authoritiesad me multiple arrests in connection with the corruption scandal engulfing fifa's governing body.
>> in south africa a manslaughter verdict astgain pistorious has been thrown out. >> this shooting was captured on cell phone video. >> oh, my god! >> according to u.s. army officials who pilots were killed come an apache helicopter went down in tennessee near ft. campbell. >> and all that matters. >> we are all thinking about the current and ongoing tragedy in california. >> in washington, d.c. house speaker paul ryan began the capitol tree light ceremony with a moment of silence. >> on "cbs this morning." >> we have only been on the air for nine months and it baffles me that we have to talk so often about mass shootings and tragedy. >> this is really unacceptable. it's just so overwhelming. it's happening too [ bleep ] much, all right? announcer: this portion of "cbs this morning" sponsored by toyota. let's go places. ♪
welcome to "cbs this morning." we begin, again, with news of a massacre in america. this time a deadly rampage turned a holiday party into horror. it happened wednesday at a social service service in san bernardino, california. 14 people were killed. another 17 are hurt. hundreds of people evacuated the complex after the shooters fired. >> the suspects are a married couple. police killed them a few hours later in a violent confrontation bout a mile from the shooting scene. one officer was wound. . we have a team of correspondents covering all angles of this story starting with norah o'donnell who is on the scene of the regional center in san bernardino. good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you and gayle and charlie. this was supposed to be a happy occasion, a holiday banquet, but it suddenly turned into an active shooter scene. we are learning more details this morning about the people
who were inside the building at the time. also, there is new information this morning about the husband and wife team who police say organized this massacre. so we are going to start with carter evans who is here with me. >> reporter: the suspects are dead now and killed in a rampage two hours, a couple of hours after the shooting. now, one police officer was injured in that shoot-out. he is in the hospital with nonlife-threatening injuries. as for the reason behind the massacre? that is still a mystery. >> the response out here is immense. >> reporter: the first reports of gunfire came at around 11:00 a.m. local time. police say two assailants a man and a woman. >> they came prepared to do what they did, as if they were on a mission. >> each suspect had a long gun, a pistol tactical type clothing that was loaded with magazines, extra magazines for a go fight. >> bunch of shots. multiple shots. shots going off like crazy, one right after the other.
>> reporter: this man's wife could see the building where san bernardino county employees were attending a holiday party. what did your wife see? >> the guy outside dressed all in black with a big gun just shooting at the window. >> reporter: terry petit's daughter holly texted him from inside the building. >> shooting at my work. people shot. in the office waiting for cops. >> reporter: is she okay? >> pray for it. >> reporter: some of the injured were treated at a triage center outside, while others were being evacuated by law enforcement, as caught on this cell phone video. >> i'll take a bullet before you did, for damn sure so be cool okay. >> reporter: the assailants escaped and all local buildings on lockdown. they reported a black suv fleeing the scene and approximately 4 1/2 hours later at around 3:30 local time police hunting for the killers, riddled a black suv with gunfire
in a shoot-out caught on police scanner audio. >> san bernardino is shedding. one guy down. there is one guy in the back of a car. >> reporter: people living nearby quickly took cover. >> we started like ducking down and then started shooting again further down down the street over there. and then -- then a rain of bullets everywhere. >> reporter: the two suspects killed were identified as 28 yered u.s.-born syed farook and his wife tashfeen malik. authorities still haven't determined a motive for the assault. >> i think based upon what we have seen and based upon how they were equipped there had to be some degree of planning that went into this so i don't think they just ran home put on these types of tactical clothes and grabbed guns and came back on a spur of the moment thing. >> reporter: at least explosive devices were found inside the building, all connected together
and believed to be real and detonated later by the bomb squad. for those injured authorities are not releasing any details on the extent of their injuries. >> we will probably learn more about this this morning. authorities are looking to find out as much as they can about these shooters. soon after the massacre police raided a home in nearby redland and that is connected to the married couple. david begnaud is near that house with reaction from the suspect's family. >> reporter: good morning. right now, the crime scene is still active. investigators have been here throughout the night. the street where the suspects lived on is evacuated. that is because there was a concern initially there may be explosives in the area. direct your attention down the street. in front of that police car a small vehicle and door is open and trunk is popped. that, we are told is a vehicle that belongs to one of the suspects. it was down this street inside one of the apartments that the suspect we are told lived with his mother, his wife and their 6
month old baby girl. >> reporter: police have identified identified syed farook and tashfeen malik who was married to farook as the suspects for the shooting. they say farook was at a holiday party with coworkers and he left abruptly and returned with his wife. shortly after, shots were fired. >> i'm shocked this happened. >> reporter: the brother-in-law said the couple was married two years and had a 6-month-old daughter and reportedly left the daughter with a grandmother. khan offered his condolences to the family of the victims and expressed disbelief and shock. >> i have no idea. i have no idea why would he do that? why would he do something like this? i have absolutely no idea. >> reporter: late last night, police used a battery ramp to enter a home in redland which is
purportedly connected to the suspect syed rizwan farook. police sent a robot into the home to look for possible explosives. the two were chased in a police pursuit that ended with a shoot-out shoot-out. cbs news were told both were in tactical clothe onning and armed with assault rifles and multiple magazines attached to their clothing and handguns were in their suv. police are tracing if they were legally purchased and, if so where and when. so far, officials have confirmed at least two of the weapons were bought legally. cbs news has confirmed the male suspect, at sometime went over to saudi arabia where he met his wife online and then brought her back to the united states. it has been less than 24 hours since the shooting and no motive has been determined but police have made it clear, they are not ruling out terrorism, at least just yet but they will say this -- the two people the two
suspects killed were the only two shooters, they believe, were involved in the shooting. back to you. >> david, thank you so much. as we learned more about these shooters we have been talking to authorities. i was also interviewing president obama at the white house. he called on lawmakers around the country to pass tougher gun laws. >> we have a pattern now of mash shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world, and there's some steps we could take not to eliminate every one of these mass shootings, but to improve the odds that they don't happen as frequently. common sense gun safety laws stronger background checks. we have a no-fly list where people can't get on planes, but those same people who we don't
allow to fly could go into a store right now in the united states and buy a firearm and there is nothing we can do to stop them. we should come together in a bipartisan basis of every level of government to, you know make these rare as opposed to normal. >> reporter: on that note this morning, people are remembering the lives of those lost in this mass shooting. in fact, i'm just -- just right over this bridge is where it happened at the inland regional center. they have it blocked off because it is still an active situation there. we do know there were many people who gathered for a candlelight vigil last night to honor the 14 victims and that is where john blackstone is at the loma linda medical center where some of those victims are recovering this morning. john? >> reporter: good morning. the loma linda university medically center here received
five patients and two were critical wounded. this is a level one trauma center and the staff here trains for this kind of mass casualty crisis. >> i called my kids and said if something happens to me there is a shooting here, just be safe. >> reporter: panic, chaos and confusion followed the gunfire in san bernardino. >> shot in her side. they told me not to come! these guys are still alive, you know that, right? >> we told hors stay downer to stay down and i love her. got in the car because she didn't respond. >> reporter: families huddled after learning about the mass shooting. >> she said i've been shot and i was at a christmas party and i don't know what is going to happen. and i'm scared and i love you. >> not knowing is she okay is she going to live? where was she shot. >> reporter: their sister was among the 17 inland regional center's survivors hit by bullets. >> she said that the shooters
came in and they just started unloading rounds on the people that were in the building with her. >> we are okay now because we found out she is doing fine. she did have one gunshot wound to her back. >> reporter: hundreds were on the ground when the firing began. >> most of the people wounded and most of the victims were all centrally located in one area of the facility. >> reporter: victims were met at loma linda by a prepared staff who were troubled by the day's attack. >> we had five adult patients brought to the hospital. we are all shaken and bothered by this and we are treating these people that didn't need to get hurt today. >> reporter: here at the loma linda medical center, as medical staff were taking care of the wounded, police received what they call a credible bomb threat. in the end sno splos, no explosives were found but this center is on added security alert. >> joining me is the mayor.
mayor, my deepest condolences. this is your city. this is your community. it's in pain. and there are many families and victims who are hurting this morning. have you spoken with any of them? >> i have not had a chance to speak with any of them. of course, our first priority has been and continues to be our citizens public safety. >> reporter: what can you tell us about the events that unfolded yesterday? >> as you know this is a tragic and shocking event that took place yesterday. it started around 11:00 in the morning. i received notification of it about 11:25. i was at a county transportation authority meeting, left there immediate and went to shalcity hall. >> these are people who are working for social health and caring for people. why did this happen? >> we don't have the motivate at this time. we characterize this as a senseless event, a tragic violent crime that was committed
against innocent people and certainly had no -- noforethought that this was coming and a christmas party event. i think it's difficult to really understand the magnitude of the impact this has on those families that will over the course of unfolding time and days, their lives have changed. >> what do you want your community to know? >> well, i certainly want them to know that we mourn with those victims who have been tragically impacted by this event. these crimes need to be effectively dealt with they need to be prosecuted. >> mayor when you hear that this is the worst shooting since sandy hook in newtown, connecticut, what does that make you think? >> these events they shock
communities. they cause communities to reprioritize those things that are more important. they draw on their father and they draw closer to family and they realize that life is precious. we need to do what we can to make sure we make the best choices that we can, that we maintain a standard that doesn't drop to the level of those who committed these crimes. >> mayor, thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you, norah. >> it's more than a city in shock. it's a country in shock because of that very fact that this is the worst shooting 2015. we are going to have much more from san bernardino throughout the morning. just ahead, too, i'm going to speak with the doctor in charge of the emergency room that treated some of the wounded survivors. charlie and gayle? >> thanks, norah. british war planes are joining the american-led bombing campaign against isis in syria. royal air force jets took off
this morning from a base in cyprus. britain's military say the plane struck critical oil facilities in omar near the border with iraq. that oil field is thought to be a major source of income for isis. the bombings followed an emotional ten-hour debate in britain's parliament. lawmakers voted by nearly a 2-1 margin to back the air attacks. norah at the white yesterday when news of the shooting broke out and she was there to interview the president about many issues including the fight against isis. that interview took place in the white house cabinet room. she asked him about his decision to send about 200 special operation troops to carry out raids in iraq and syria. >> reporter: you have said no boots on the ground. but this is almost trippling the amount of forces you've approved there. is this going back on your word? does this mean we are going to have greater involvement now? >> when i said no boots on the ground on i think the american people understood generally we are not going to do an
iraq-style invasion of iraq or syria with battalions that are moving across the desert. but what i've been very clear about is that we are going to systematically squeeze and ultimately destroy isil and that requires us having a military component to that and the 65 country coalition that we put together has been striking isil mers mercilessly and strike back against isis of territory they have taken both in iraq and syria and we are developing partnerships although they are not as strong as we want yet, with local tribes and sunnis who are willing to fight isil. what i've said is that we are going to continually modify and adjust our strategy based on those things that work and those things that may not work. and our special forces are the best in the world. they are not going to
single-handedly destroy isil but what they can do is give us greater situational awareness on the on the ground and generate intelligence and work with local forces to develop smarter strategies, help direct where air strikes are going to make the most difference. and we are going to continue to on, you know push hard and the good news is coming out of paris paris, we are seeing countries like germany and great britain that have been hesitant about getting too actively involved in syria, realizing that they have to be part of the solution here. >> we will hear more of norah's interview with the president in our next hour. he talks about the potential isis threat here at home and the fears of a paris-style attack inside the united states. that is ahead on "cbs this morning." a new congressional report calls the secret service an agency in crisis. ahead, new revelations of syria's security breaches including a person who pretended to be a co
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♪ there is shock and grief this morning in san bernardino, california, after wednesday's deadly massacre. the city east of los angeles is coping with the deadliest mass shooting in the united states since 2012. a married couple opened fire wednesday during a holiday banquet banquet. the san bernardino sun calls the rampage horrific. 14 people are dead and 18 hurt including one police officer. >> police did kill the suspects in the shoot-out. they were a husband and wife team identified as 28-year-old syed farook and 27-year-old tashfeen malik. investigators have been at the couple's house in nearby redlands all night long and trying to gain more information about a motive. norah o'donnell is leading our coverage this morning and she is near the scene of the massacre
at the inland regional center in san bernardino. good morning again, norah. >> reporter: good morning to you, charlie and gayle. look. i think this morning, there are still some very crucial questions surrounding wednesday's shooting in particular, the motive of these two suspects. what we do know is that 14 lives end ed tragically and dozens of survivors are dealing with physical and emotional wounds. earlier this morning i spoke with an emergency room physician, dr. kathy clemm, who overseas where the victims are being treated. joining us is dr. kathleen clemm who oversaw some of the victims of yesterday's shooting at loma linda medical center. good morning, doctor. i know you were there all day yesterday. describe the scene as victims began arriving. >> we got a call a little bit before they arrived and within 15 minutes, we were setup and
ready for 50 casualties to arrive. we can do this rapidly here at loma linda. we prepare for this. we get ready and when they roll through the door we actually had four trauma teams up and ready to take care of the patients. >> how many patients did you receive and how serious were the injuries? >> we received four initially and they were seriously injured. they needed a level one trauma center. >> how does a hospital like yours prepare for something like this? >> we practice for mass casualties and disasters regularly, so we actually set up tents right in our parking lot with different colored markers ready for all of the different patients to come in. we have staff that come from all over the hospital immediately and we are prepared for disasters like this. we set it up and we were ready to go. >> dr. clem when you get the call there has been a mass shooting in your community, what we now know is the worst mass shooting of 2015. what is your reaction?
>> i feel for the members of my community, especially the ones that died and weren't able to come in and receive our help. in the face of tragedy, i think all health care givers focus on being a helper and what we can do to help in a tragedy like this, and i think that is what our focus has been. we were set up we did it we took care of them. we were prepared and we were there for our community. >> we should note that the chaos began at a holiday party at the inland regional center. employees had gathered inside this social services facility. some of them may have recognized wx one of their coworkers who burst in with his wife armed with assault rifles and semiautomatic weapons and opened fire. as the blood shed started some hid behind doors and some tried
to get word to their loved ones. this video shows police escorting people out of the building not knowing if an active shooting was still inside. you can hear one of the officers tell everyone to relax. he says i'll take a bullet before you do. that's for damn sure. the madness inside filled onto the streets. entire neighborhoods were placed on lockdown. for hours, police could not say if the area was safe. the situation is secure now. but many here are still shaken that a place dedicated to helping people with developmental disabilities could come under an attack like this. charlie, gayle? >> thanks norah. many questions, including motive, including whether this was organized and why that location. mary ellen o'toole has 25 years of experience investigating mass
shootings, including the columbine massacre. good morning. >> good morning. >> so how is this different through your eyes? because you've seen so much. >> it's different in a number of ways. first of all we have a female shooter. we have a -- an attack that is extremely well-organized. it's really mission-oriented. massive fire power. it was very strategic and it had a very definite escape plan and there was no suicide at the end or suicide by cop. and those three things to me are the most remarkable because it does suggest to me that after this shooting occurred at that event, these shooters intended to go someplace else because they could not at the end of the day go home and take their 6-month-old baby away from their mother-in-law and call it day. something else was probably going to happen. >> does this in any way suggest
terrorism? or we don't know motive but they are not ruling out terrorism. do the events like this say what to you? >> that's right, they do. and i think terrorism certainly has to be a very important consideration here, as the fact pattern begins to evolve and tighten up. it did occur in a venue where the male shooter, you know -- a fellow employees, had colleagues. so there are some who say this was very personal. that may be true but it also may have made it a softer target for him. i don't believe, based on how strategic the plan was, that he had a fight and then the fight precipitated the attack. that doesn't make any sense at all behaviorally. the fight or the disagreement that people have described, if in fact, that did occur, could have been staged. but the plan itself overall, was extremely strategic, well thought out and that would have taken days weeks, even months
to put together. >> that is exactly what the san bernardino police chief is saying too mary ellen, it's highly unlikely an argument caused this. they were so well planned they were dressed and has an argument and comes back with his wife. his coworkers described his as reserve and polite and living the american dream he and his wife had recently married and had this 6-month-old baby. what do you make of that when you hear about this couple being involved in this?t all the time. if you come across as quiet and normal people accept you as being nonthreatening but you don't know what happens behind closed doors in someone's homes. those are trappings of normalcy and not could i have of violent or threatening behavior in the fut future. my experience has been the general public does not know how to read for signs of dangerousness and clearly in this case, if these two individuals wanted to carry out the attack that they did, in
fact, carry out, they are going to behave in a normal quiet -- be able to get along type of fashion with other people because they don't want to have this mission interrupted. so those trappings of normalcy are not indicative of future violence. >> mary ellen o'toole, thank you very much. >> you're very welcome. >> in the next hour how police tactics and advice are changing to address the growing threat. that's ahead on "cbs this morning." a deadly police shooting in san francisco caught on video is under investigation this morning, and we need to warn you that the video is disturbing. >> oh, my god! >> san francisco's police chief says that man armed with a knife moved towards those officers before they opened fire. they stopped the suspect after a stabbing nearly an hour earlier. the chief says that the officers
ordered him to drop the knife. when he did not, they used other nonlethal weapons. but they say that the man kept coming at them, so they had to shoot him. it is time to show you some of this morning's other headlines around the globe. britain's "guardian" says blade runner oscar pistorious is now guilty of murder. south africa's top appeals court this morning overturned a lesser manslaughter conviction. the double amputee sprinter killed his girlfriend in 2013. pistorious is under house arrest but faces a new sentence of at least 15 years. the tennesseean says two army pilots tied when their helicopter crashed near ft. campbell, kentucky. the apatchyche went down. the cause is under investigation. "wall street journal" says the federal reserve chair is signaling a long expected hike in interest will happen this month. janet yellen says wednesday that raising rates would be a testament to how well the
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breaches. >> reporter: good morning. the u.s. secret service is an agency in crisis hit by budget cutbacks and leadership failures, and overworked officers. according to a new report that will be released by congressional investigators later today, and it details 143 different incidents. security breaches or attempted ones, over the past decade. it also shares some new previously undisclosed details, including a breach last fall when a man pretending to be a member of congress slipped back stage without being screened and then walked up and spoke with president obama. investigators say the root of these problems and the greatest threat to the secret service right now is simple a staffing crisis. the critical report which was obtained by cbs news is a result of a bipartisan year-long investigation by the house oversight committee and it focused on four significant security breaches including a september 2014 incident when the
secret service didn't vet armed security guards who were standing very close to the president when he visited the cdc, and a march 2015 incident in which two possibly drunk officers interfered with a crime scene surrounding a threaten and bomb outside of these white house grounds. all of this comes in the wake of a series of high profile scandals and incidents that have driven morale at the secret service to an all-time low. gayle, we contacted the secret service this morning, but, so far, they are not commenting on on these new revelations. >> got it margaret. so many hard working men and women in the secret service department but it shows there is work to be done there. thank you very much. ahead, norah asked president obama about fears of a paris-style isis attack here in america. why he says we are safer than ever. and paul ryan joins us just before his first major speech as speaker of the house. what he says congress will do about the rise of mas
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♪ it is thursday, december 3rd, 2015. welcome back to "cbs this morning." there is more real nus ahead, including the san bernardino massacre. norah has the latest from the scene and a look at how police prepare for those attacks. first, here's a look at today's "eye opener" at 8:00. this was supposed to be a y happoccasion a holiday banquet, but it suddenly turned into an active shooter scene. >> the suspects are dead now. wtheyere killed in a rampage. as for the reason behind the massacre? that is still a mystery. >> in front of that police car a small vehicle that belongs to one of the suspects. >> you don't know motive but they are not ruling out terrorism. >> terrorism certainly has to be a very important consideration
here as the fact pattern begins to evolve. >> the u.s. secret service is an agency in crisis. accordin ag to new report that will be released by congressional investigators later today. >> you have said no boots on the ground, but is this going back on your word? >> when i said no boots on the ground, i think the american people understood generally that we are not going to do an iraq-style invasion of iraq or syria. >> when you hear that this is the worst shooting since sandy hook, what does that make you think? >> these events they shock communities and they cause communities to reprioritize and they realize that life is precious. >> i'm charlie rose with gayle king and norah o'donnell. norah is in san bernardino california. there is nothing this morning to explain why a married couple carried out a deadly shooting rampage. 14 people were killed wednesday, and another 17 injured. police say the suspects targeted
the holiday party at the inland regional center in san >> hours after the rampage, a police chase and a shoot-out left the suspects dead. officials say their motive could be a workplace dispute or terrorism. norah o'donnell is at the scene of the massacre in san bernardino and joins us once again. norah, good morning. >> good morning to you. they are not ruling out terrorism at this hour. we are learning more about those suspects, though. police say that syed farook and his wife tashfeen malik, he and his wife were married for two years. they lived with farook's mother in this redlands home that was the target of a police raid yesterday. the couple left their 6-month-old child with her yesterday morning. at the time of the shooting county employees were attending a holiday party in a conference room. farook attended the event, but left angrily.
he returned with his wife to the facility that helped the mentally disabled. both started shooting. some of the injured were treated at a triage center outside of the building. others were evacuated and officers tried to keep people calm. but you can hear the panic in this mother's voice when she describes hearing from her daughter. >> she said she was cold and she called me and said she was shot in her side and that they were -- they were pretending to be dead because these guys are still out there. >> it was agony for many loved ones of the people who worked in the building. they left wondering who was hurt or killed. carter evans has been following this story. carter, what more do we know this morning? >> reporter: the first reports of gunfire came in just after 11:00 a.m. now, after the first 911 call, police were on the scene within four minutes. now, the police chief said the two assailants came prepared as
if they were on a mission. they had semiautomatic rifles and were wearing masks and tactical type clothing that was loaded with magazine after magazine and they were prepared for a gunfight. they reported a black suv fleeing the scene. around four hours after the initial shooting, there was a police chase of the suspects which ended in a shoot-out. at least 20 officers were involved in the shooting. that is where the two suspects 28-year-old u.s.-born syed farook and his wife tashfeen malik was killed and one officer was wounded with nonlife-threatening injuries. the a.p. this morning is reporting that the atf has determined the guns used in the shoot-out were purchased legally. >> carter evans, thank you very much. now back to charlie and gayle in new york. >> thank you. the san bernardino massacre does not fit the pattern of other recent mass shootings. eugene o'connell is joining us
who is a prefer at john jay college of justice and is a new york city police officer also. look at what they are looking at and tell us how do you determine motive? what are the clues that might indicate how this happened and why. >> it's easier today than it used to be because people leave trails. they leave text trails and e-mails. not always but often. social media. then you try to figure out who he is networked with and tremendous interest in the wife having come into the country apparently from saudi arabia. any travels they took and it will be very painstaking and it has to be evidence-based and what we want to know right now the likelihood things that come out now will turn out to be erroneous so they need to stay focused and stay on the facts, stay on the evidence. >> facts are they were very organized? >> facts are they were very organized and facts are they were able to use these weapons in a scary kind of way and they maximized the taking of life. they didn't say anything. they just shot and slaughtered these poor folks. >> what stands out to you,
eugene about this particular shooting? and the way it was carried out and by who? >> it's definitely an outlier as far as mass shooting. two people a woman involved. >> how unusual is that having a woman? >> very unusual. i did a study and only a handful, a small number of shooters have been women s very unusual. >> are the women usually tied with the men associated with the attack? >> i think again we want to resist stereotypes which is easy to fall into. certainly as a criminal justice matter and this may not be a criminal justice matter and may be something beyond criminal justice but often a man who is, you know leads to the downfall. the woman, the bad actor tends to be the man more than the woman usually. >> and what about the fact they took their daughter to the mother? >> yeah, so we are going to have to see again. we should be prepared to take this wherever it takes us. in the meantime, we shouldn't jump to conclusions, and also shouldn't use this to divide up the country. we should wait and see, but clearly there may be -- this may be a guy whose life was unraveling and for him this was
honor killing and he is wrapping himself up in maybe radicalization. >> wouldn't we know that from some kind of obvious signs in terms of people at work and elsewhere? >> no. >> in terms of unrave >> it may be unraveling but well-documented assuming this is some sort of a terrorist attack these people have been able to stable on the surface and they are not known and 9/11 tackattackers had normal lives and separate and discrete people. typically you'll hear people say we had no notice no warning whatsoever about this person. >> when is exactly what his brother-in-law said. he talked to him about a week ago. his coworkers described him as polite and observe and people are no idea. what do you think police should be focusing on right now, law enforcement? >> would you say it's a wake-up call. >> absolutely a wake-up call and get plxs out of this. a nonideological approach.
one of the issues that came up last year cheap shots taken at the police about so-called note ryization. we see it was a smail department, 46-officer department there. front and center there. the s.w.a.t. team played a major role here. no doubt police -- we have to be rosk realistic environment we are are in in this country. royal air force jets took off from british base in cyprus to join the american-led campaign for syria and iraq. u.s. allies have ramped up the military fight against isis since the paris terror attacks siled killed 130 people. before norah left for california she spoke with the president at the white house. she asked about the isis-related terror attacks here at home. >> reporter: the fbi now has active investigations into isis simpympathizers in all 50 states.
uver you've had more terror-related arrests since september of 2001. do you think americans are living in a bit of fear that paris could come here? >> is there no doubt that they are. what i try to do is make sure the people understand the threat is real. we have to be vigilant. but we also can't panic and we can't respond out of fear. we have to make sure that we keep a clear view about what needs to be done. isil will not pose an existential threat to us. they are a dangerous organization like al qaeda was, but we have hardened our defenses. our homeland has never been more protected by more effective intelligence and law enforcement professionals at every level than they are now. the coordination is much better than it is now. if you look at the number of successful terrorist attacks
that have occurred, you know we have disrupted a lot of them. but the dangers are still there. so we just have to keep things in perspective. the american people should feel confident that, you know we are going to be able to defend ourselves and make sure that, you know we have a good holiday season, and go about our lives. i said this repeatedly overseas. isil only wins if we react out of fear and start changing how we live violating our values. they can't win on the battlefield. they can kill some innocent people, but that's not a victory for them if we respond appropriately. >> norah joins us now from san bernardino. norah, having spoke with the president, do you get the sense that he feels an imperative to reassure the american people at this moment? >> reporter: charlie, i think that is exactly right. he is playing the role as calmer
in chief. so while he is holding meetings every day with his national security team getting briefings from his homeland security adviser about threats here at home and about what happened in san bernardino yesterday, he is trying to reassure americans to try and go about their daily lives, certainly as we are in the holiday season. i think, charlie, what happened here just shows how we are on edge. authorities are not ruling out terrorism. there is no indication at this point but they are not rule it out. we don't know. what we do know the two suspects here, highly unusual, a husband and wife team who were heavily armed and masked and it appeared premeditated even though there was some sort of argument at this holiday banquet that turned into this massive shooting the worst in 2015 and the worst since newtown. i think you do have the sense and why i asked the president that question yesterday. i, myself have felt it traveling, a sense of fear and a sense of sort of looking around am i safe where i am? so i think the president there, as you saw, was trying to play
that role of calming people but you can't let terrorism distract you from your daily lives. >> that is a very good summary of this morning and a sense of where we are. so many questions and fewer answers. tomorrow, we will have more of norah's conversation with president obama as he discusses climate change and this week's paris summit, that is tomorrow on "cbs this morning." first responders in san bernardino were ready when the worst happened. see how police tactics are evolving to address the
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seven years that number more than doubled to 115. 16% of those shootings ended before officers arrived. kris van cleave in washington shows us how police prepare for these attacks. >> reporter: since the columbine shootings in 1999 where 13 people were killed in that high school, police have been re-evaluateing active shooter procedures. they tell us for the rest of us the best things we can do is get out, hide or sometimes take action. this as active shooter drills are becoming a lot more common. inland regional center nurse who took this video on wednesday thought they were part of a drill. she told the l.a. times they practice active shooter situations every month or so. the frequency of active shooter incidents in the u.s. is rising. police are adjusting their tactics.
>> first responding patrol officers are expected to go in to try to find that threat and stop the killing. >> reporter: ron hosco is a former assistant director of the fbi. >> they are not waiting for a s.w.a.t. team that may be 15 minutes or an hour behind. >> reporter: less than two weeks ago, the new york city police department held a three-hour active shooter drill in the city's subway system. >> these exercises are necessary, particularly in light of what is going on in the world at this point in time. >> everybody stay calm. it's probably just a drill. angeles county sheriff's deputy posted a video online on how to deal with a shooting of this kind p.m. >> lock or barricade the doors. >> always spread out. don't huddle together. that creates one easy target. >> reporter: according to the department of homeland security active shooter incidents typically last between ten and 15 minutes. washington, d.c. police chief
kathy lanier spoke with anderson cooper during a "60 minutes" last month. >> i say if you can get out, that is your best and first option. if you're in a position to take the gunman down and out, it's the best option for saving lives before police can get there and that is kind of counterintuitive to what cops tell people. we tell people don't take action call 911, don't intervene in the robbery, you know? we have never told me take action. this is a different scenario. >> you're telling them that now, though? >> we are. >> reporter: police also say be aware of your surroundings and come up with at least two exit plans to get out of the building if you need to get out fast. gayle? >> we have a new set of rules. charlie, now that we have the phrase active shooter is now part of our vocabulary. a different day. thank you very much, kris van cleave. a morning of grieving we want to show you how a super bowl champ brought home golden memory to his hometown, north pole, alaska!
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♪ we are all thinking about the current and ongoing tragedy in california today. and i would like to have a brief moment of silence now for those who are affected. >> house speaker paul ryan honoring the victims in san bernardino. he spoke at last night's light of the capitol christmas tree in washington. welcome back to "cbs this morning." norah o'donnell is leading our coverage from san bernardino this morning. in just a few hours, representative ryan will make his first major address as speaker. he will describe what he sees as america's biggest challenges. >> congress is on under new pressure to act about mass shootings before heading to california. norah o'donnell spoke to the president about.
>> we have a pattern of mass shootings in this country that has no parallel anywhere else in the world. and there's some steps we could take not to eliminate every one of these mass shootings, but to improve the odds that they don't happen as frequently. common sense gun safety laws stronger background checks, you know, and, you know, for those who are concerned about terrorism, you know, some may be aware of the fact that we have a no-fly list where people can't get on planes but those same people who we don't allow to fly could go into a store right now in the united states and buy a firearm and there is nothing that we can do to stop them. that's a law that needs to be changed. >> house speaker paul ryan is with us now from capitol hill. mr. speaker, good morning. >> good morning, charlie. how are you this morning? >> good. the community is grieving, as you know the nation is asking questions about why and how do we stop this. we want to hear from out that. but why don't you, after you
make your speech today, called the president and say i'm going to come down pennsylvania avenue and let's you and i start off and do something about this right now? i'm speaker of the house, you're president, you're in your fourth quarter and i'm of my job as speaker. >> first, charlie, this is just a horrible event. my stomach turns like any american when they see this kind of violence and you can't help but watch this on tv and yell at the tv and say, what can we do to prevent this from happening? obviously, we are thinking of those things. this particular shooting in san bernardino there's you some too much unknowns before we speculate about the origin of this one. but what we have seen in a common theme among many of these mass shootings is the theme of mental illness. and we need to fix our mental illness laws our policies. they are outdated. and that is something that we are working on right now. we are moving a bill through the process here the murphy legislation, because we think that is one of the more consistent and common themes is
people with mental illness are getting guns and conducting these mass shootings. now, without knowing the facts in san bernardino we also know that there are home-grown jihadists and we also know there are isis inspirational events and we need to figure out how to handle that as well. to there are multiple things that need to be addressed and we are working on those that need to be addressed, including whether somebody is coming here or inspiring someone to do these things because of their audiological or religious events or the common theme we know -- >> i suspect a lot of people would agree with you and most would agree on that. here is what the president said and why i suggested there might be a conversation between you and the president. he said we have a no-fly list where people can't get on planes but these seem people whom we do not allow to fly, could get into a store right now in the united states and buy a firearm. and there is nothing we can do
to stop them. >> well, on this particular issue, we do have a constitution. citizens have a due process rights and anyone can just be arbitrarily placed on the no-fly list. in fact, that's happened quite a bit. people have been placed on the no-fly list mistakenly and innocently. so we need to respect due process. when we rush to act tho on these things let's make sure we act accordingly and according to citizens rights and to the constitution. oh, let's make sure what we do actually solves these problems. so that is why i think when you take a pause and see what is happening and why we are working on mental health already. with respect to the no-fly list it's important to remember people have due process rights in this country and we can't have some government official put them arbitrarily on a list. if someone is suspected of terrorism in this country and someone in this country we think is planning a terrorist attack we should arrest them.% this is something that should be dealt with by law enforcement in a more pronounced position than
maybe, you know, banning due process lights on a no-fly list. if we think somebody is committing terrorism we should pick them up. >> i hear you mr. speaker. many stopped me and said we know how this story is going to go. we will hear the stories of the heroes who survived and the stories about the victims and the stories about the shooters. >> and nothing gets done right. >> ultimately, that's right. nothing changes. surely there can be something that can stop people from getting an ak-47. in this particular case in san bernardino it's being reported that two of the weapons recovered were bought legally in this country. what does it take to move the needle in congress is the frustration we have. >> what we are trying to do is find out the facts and make sure what our response is actually addresses the problems without -- without infringing upon the rights of law abideing citizens. that is the -- >> but it keeps happening. >> we have citizens who have rights to be protected. again, gayle, one of the common
themes here, this is is why we are really serious about our mental health legislation because a lot of these people are getting guns who are mentally unstable who should not be getting guns and this is a gap in our laws that we feel needs to be filled. look. if you're not outraged when you turn on the tv and see these shootings there is something wrong with you. we want to get it right, gayle. we want to make sure we don't violate a person's rights if they are a law abiding citizen. >> can i just say this to you? a mass shooting is described as four or more victims. according to shooting tracker.com just the fact we have a shooting tracker.com speaks volumes. since january 354 mass shootings in this country. you must be frustrated as well. >> i am gayle. that's why -- again i don't want to keep saying the same thing over and over. >> yeah, but. >> but one of the things we have noticed there are mental health issues here and we haven't fixed these laws in years and they are discombobulated and don't make sense. people who are getting guns and
diagnosed with mental illnesses are slipping through the cracks and slipping through our system and we need to patch that and then when we talk about making sure that -- that criminals, people that should not get guns don't get guns we need to keep enforcing the laws and there are no gaps in that enforce want. >> mr. speaker, what is required to make sure people will not be saying a month from now we are facing the same situation? >> well, we are receiving some resistance from our mental health bill right now as we speak. >> you talk to the president about the mental health bill and the president will talk to you about his own concerns about who is allowed to get what kind of guns. >> right. by the way, that is part of the mental health bill. that is part of the discussion surrounding the mental health bill which is who gets guns and who should get guns. we have to make sure in our rush to do something, we don't violate a person's individual rights in this country. >> but due process rights -- >> executive division of the government are equally concerned about violating people's rights?
>> well, some proposals here do violate people's rights. the no-fly list is a perfect example. we are going to -- we are going to violate a person's rights without giving them any due process? you have to think these things through before we have knee-jerk reactions is my point. >> what about the people who aren't mentally ill and committing these crimes? >> are they people who got guns illegally or barred from the law of getting a gun and got it any way? therefore we have a gap enforcing our laws. is it a law alliedbideingeing citizen who all of a sudden snapped or something like that? you're ner going to have in a free society the ability to prevent anything to prevent everything you want to prevent. >> the president said that. >> a free society, in a free society you're going to have problems. the question is in a free society, while protecting our individual rights, are there gaps in laws are there gaps in enforcement of laws that need to be filled? that is what we are looking at right now. >> you're going to speak to the congress this afternoon around around 12:30 or 1:00 i assume. where do you put this as a priority for you and the
congress? >> so here is my concern about everything. i don't think the country is headed in the right direction, charlie and gayle. i really believe we are on the wrong track. i really believe we are -- we are at risk of severing this legacy of leaving the next generation better off in this country. we would be the first generation to do that and we are on track of doing that. i feel that we here in congress if we don't like the direction the country is headed on any number of issues we can't be an opposition party yelling no. we have to be a proposition party and we have to show people what our ideas are so we need to be big we need to be bold we need to be specific, and in 2016 we have an obligation to give the people of this country a choice so they can choose is what direction the country goes. that is what i'm going to lay out today, which is we are an opposition party yes, but here is how we become a proposition party and, more importantly, here is how we give the choice to the people of this country so that they get to decide the direction the nation is going and a whole range of issues poverty, economic roles, upward
mobility you have affordable health care. we have to say to the country, here is a better way forward and if you agree with us and you choose us to lead then we will do this. we need a mandate and we need to offer people a choice and that is the kind of vision i'm going to lay out this afternoon. >> when will you talk to the president? >> i talk to the president fairly regularly, actually. i don't know. i call him sometimes and he calls me sometimes so i don't have something marked on my calendar. >> thank you speaker ryan. >> we talk fairly often. >> thank you very much speaker ryan for your time today. we do appreciate
♪ we continue our high school honor roll series this morning, celebrating super bowl 50. former offensive lineman daryn colledge helped aaron rodgers lead the packers to a title in 2011 and bringing home the vince lombardi trophy. colledge colledge recently carried a golden football to his hometown. james brown, host of nfl today on cbs takes us to north pole high school in alaska. >> i'm glad to be home. it's just been so long since i've been here with football 15 years since we have been out hunting and flying and now to get out and see the world again. >> as i said when i was growing up here i said if you want to see alaska get in the air a bit and you can find it.
when you live in a state as vast as this, we travel by river and we travel by plane. our idea of space is different than any anybody in the lower 48. the size of connecticut is a different situation here in other towns. we get in a plane and hop 15 minutes and we could be in the mountains and we can see anything. a moose right there? >> oh, yeah. there he is. >> plenty of time to go hunting! ♪ >> i grew up living in the wilderness and i hunt and i fish. >> reporter: he may have grow up a typically alaska but his hometown of north powell is not exactly average. >> we in north pole embrace the christmas spirit. ♪ >> we are the home of santa claus. we have the candy cane light poles. ♪ >> we love it. it's a year-round thing for us. >> reporter: so how did a kid from here get to here? >> the green bay packers are world champions of football! >> i didn't probably officially
start playing football until my senior year in high school. i was dating a girl who was a cheerleader and said i'll play football, why not? >> reporter: that led to boise state discovering him on another reel and his unlikely football career began. >> intercepted by daryn colledge! >> i was gifted. i got an opportunity and seized that opportunity. i think i've been doing that the last ninees of my football career too. >> this is our moment! we work too hard to be stopped! >> bringing a golden football back is awesome to that built and start its life around gold is probably more symbolic for us than it is a lot of other towns. most people when you tell them you're from alaska they don't believe you. alaska, this vast place they still think is connected to russia and might be down by hawaii if you look on a map. >> reporter: there was no confusion where bwho he is and where he came from when he returned to his high school. >> it's like to bring out north pole alumni and super bowl champion mr. daryn colledge.
>> these footballs will be reminded of the 50th anniversary but it's a connection back to you guys. it seems it's something i did but i couldn't do it without the teachers and coaches standing by me and the students i went to school with in this community. this football is for you. if i made one more step easier for these kids to leave our here and a chance to get a college education and play football on a bigger stage, then i've done as much as i can and that is most important to me. football is great but the chance for these kids to get out of alaska and come back here and make alaska better that is most important. >> 1-2-3! >> yea! >> everybody can give money but sometimes it's nice to put something in the trophy case that everybody can walk by and say, all right that kid came from here and he did something. he is proud to be from here and i'm proud to be from north pole
and i want them to know that too. >> our thanks to j.b. always nice when they go back to say thank you to their coaches and teachers. they certainly change their lives. we are counting down to "thursday night football." detroit lions host the green bay packers. our coverage begins at 7:30 eastern on cbs tonight. we will be right back.
we want to bring in norah one more time from the scene of the sanrdino massacre. norah, it's time for us just to talk about this. everybody, i think is frustrated. everybody is asking why and everybody is asking what can we do but we have to do something. as the new york "daily news" said, god is not going to fix
it. we have to fix it. >> i think you're right. the frustration. as the sun is coming up here in san bernardino there are a lot of questions why. why target fellow employees at a holiday banquet on a wednesday around lunch time? just who is mr. farook and his wife? did they act alone? was this terrorism-related? and then just this note. this is the 17th time since 2009 that president obama has addressed on camera a mass shooting in america. today, san bernardino joins a very sad list of other places that have had to deal with this whether it was newtown, aurora chattanooga, charleston ft. hood. when will this end? >> exactly the question everybody is asking. did we not learn anything from newtown? enough, enough norah. >> uh-huh. >> norah, thank you so much for your coverage. gayle?
] [ applause ] matt is here to talk about decorating your living room. it is thursday, december 3. this is "great day washington" ." good morning. my name is chris leary. i'm markette sheppard. we're your hosts of "great day washington." and it really is a great day here in the nation's capital because we have the national christmas tree lighting tonight and the pageant of peace. have you ever been?
>> no. i am not sure i've ever seen it on tv. >> i went a couple of years ago and i must say if you live in d.c., it's a free event. you can kind of come up. there's a v.i.p. ticketed section right up close to where the president and the first family is but you can just come out and see it. the tree is huge. and then they have -- i don't know if they're still doing this because i weants few years ago -- went a few years ago, a tree to represent each state. that's the pageant of peace. it's a good way to kick off the holiday season. >> i bet. it must be. is there a lot of people down there? >> so many people. the year i went, i wasn't working here but i actually saw lesli foster and i was kind of star struck by that. wusa9's anchor. the funny thing was, it was so many people out there. the great equalizer was using the bathroom at the porta- potties. there were really long lines. i want to tell you if you're
planning on going. lesli is such a nice person. there were children behind her. one child would come up and she would let that go. another child would see that and she would let them go. we were all freezing out there but talk about putting people in the holiday spirit. >> the lesson here is, the joy of the season. if you're ever in the need of going to the bathroom, get behind lesli foster because you're going to get backup. speaking of holiday cheer, toys for tots. we're going to talk about how you can donate through auto stores to give a toy to a child. >> i don't know if you have your tree or decorations, but i know who has a jump on that. that's our moon moon. she's out -- our meaghan mooney. she's out -- i believe she's hanging around petunias. what's going on? >> good morning. this morning i'm going