criminal defense attorney joey jackson and cedric alexander the president of the national organization of black law enforcement executives. dr. alexander, let me begin with you, if i could. there is this prevailing thought, it seems, especially among the black community who may be fearful of police, and probably for good reason, certainly the medias has not helped out in terms of what they've been seeing a lot of lately, that they can say no to a police officer when a police officer asks for some kind of compliance, show me i.d. get out of the vehicle, get on the sidewalk. can you clear it up what is all of our responsibility no matter what when a police officer asks us to do something. >> i don't know if i can clear it up for you, but i can hopefully provide some insight so we can all start thinking about this. it is clear and evident over the last couple of months, post-the michael brown shooting, in particular, we've seen a number of incidents of police and community interactions that have not been of what we would prefer to see and certainly have created some ps pause