dennis miller has attempted, right? >> i would suggest all of you to go back and look at the fox news attempt at about -- in 2007 or eight they tried a 12 episode show. >> didn't work. >> not at all. i think there's something to be said for the political philosophy of looking -- i mean it's mine and i think if you look at sort of all of these shows, it's -- if you look at somebody, who has been given the gift of power. >> right. >> and they use it stupidly, or they use it to manipulate the greater good, those should be your targets, right? so if you look at conservatism as a whole, which is like stay the course, you know, there's not a whole lot of like, let's open up our minds and look at this, like this seems to be working, this is our philosophy, it's -- we believe in, you know, faith and family and this, and the faith is christianity, and that doesn't expand too much, and the family is, you know, straight, secular, husband-wife, traditional family instead of family means a lot of things, and so when you stick with t