, michigan, pennsylvania, to be sure that he wins florida again, for example, to try to be competitive if some of these other swing states like north carolina, he's going to have to expand beyond the base and what we've not seen yet from the president in these last few months since the midterm election defeat is an expansion of his appeal. is an attempt to reach out to people who are not on board the trump train today, and get them onboard for november of 2020. we'll see if in the state of the union he tries to do that. he's talked about delivering a unifying message tomorrow night, but the focus on the border wall and immigration and the government shutdown is really geared at the base and trump's going to need to go beyond the base to win re-election. >> robert, right there, we'll take philip's point and that is this message about unity. if worst case tomorrow night is that we get a boilerplate paragraph about unity and starting in the limousine over to the white house, he is tweeting about the idiot democrats, if that's worst case, what is best case for this president at this time in h

playing out. craig. >> kelly o'donnell, 1600 pennsylvania avenue. kelly o., do stand by for me if you can. a bit of clarification from garrett haake as we go back to the hill. we're waiting for the members to return from the votes. garrett, what more do we know about the votes and do we have a timetable regarding when these members are going to return to the committee room? >> reporter: craig, this is the general business of the house today. they're voting on a bill about veterans access to child care. that's the main vote. what has gummed up the works a little bit, a long delay, a long remembrance for john dingell, the long-time committee chairman of the house dnc, energy and commerce committee up here on capitol hill. there was a moment of silence, several speeches on the floor. he was a revered figure up here. that moment of silence and the associated remembrances took quite a bit of time on the house floor. this vote today will be the last vote before most members of congress go home. that makes the hearing we're about to rejoin here the only game in town. so a bit of parliame

pennsylvania avenue. it's very possible, we have split-screen coverage next week of one donald trump in vietnam with the dictator of north korea and his long-time personal family company lawyer in washington, d.c., that has to be at very minimum a distraction for the traveling white house? >> yeah, absolutely. it's a big deal when a president goes overseas to meet with a foreign leader, particularly one like north korea. no president had met with any north korean dictator until donald trump came along. to have this split-screen story going on, is rather extraordinary. not novel in this particular administration. i was on the plane with him when he left for saudi arabia amid reports that he had just met with the russian minister after firing jim comey. he said that releases the pressure on me and another report that jared kushner might or might not be under scrutiny. another time when he was meeting with the queen, it was the moment when rod rosenstein came out and announced the indictment of russian agents who interfered in the election. so he's seen this before and it's a distraction b

appropriators are not at 1600 pennsylvania avenue, they're at the other end. you learn that like on "sesame street" or pbs. >> it's article one of the constitution, the appropriating powers are vested in the congress of the united states. and so this should not be a political issue on the hill. republicans and democrats ought to think carefully about what the constitution says about their authority and how they feel about a president, any president usurping that. >> rick stangel, this also -- as a new york magazine editor, if you're going to put a story on the front page, if you were going to put andy mccabe's face on the front page and you woke up as a white house dealing with the president's booming rage and vitriolic tweets about andy mccabe. if you read this morning's newspaper analysis about the ruling in the manafort case, you have more evidence that a judge, impartial judge, is siding with the kinds of arguments being made by andrew weissmann, the lead prosecutor in the mueller case, you've got a president out of his mind being called a weenie by ann coulter, what do you do i

, making things very difficult. . we see the impacts heading into pennsylvania, heading into baltimore this morning. notice snow accumulations, new york city southward, not expecting much. northern new england, a foot of snow to you. hartford to providence to boston, a quick two to four inches of snow and then turning to sleet. northern portions of the great lakes will also get hit. the icy spots today, chicago. outside of new york city, ice storm possible, northern jersey, poconos, catskills, interior sections of new england. so numerous travel issues out there. of course with all the big cities and all this messy weather from chicago all the way through the northeast. new york city snow should be moving in around 9 a.m. and then over to sleet and freezing rain this afternoon. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back. ♪ keep on truckin' baby truckiny making my dreams a reality takes more than just investment advice. from insurance to savings to retirement, it takes someone with experience and knowledge who can help me build a complete plan. brian, my certified financial pl

unmiserable messages to pennsylvania, talking about banning late term abortion and talks with north korea and, of course, then vowing to build the wall. >> you also mentioned a notable line we will hear from the president on the 2020 campaign trail. what is that? >> the president used a couple of words you rarely hear. he brought up socialism trying to say some american democratic politics are like maduro in venezuela. he was saying there's a rise of social lim socialism in the country. on the msnbc speech afterwards, i heard ocasio-cortez saying she thought that was a reference to her. he's saying america will not become a socialist country. this is a new line you can expect to see him use on the campaign trail. this is the campaigner a trump talking about unity and other applause lines. atop, trump supporters saying to me saying that is not the real trump and he can't continue to be someone he's not for two years so campaigner trump is someone we will see a lot more of. >> you said the campaigner issues but did he put forth any new ideas or initiatives other than what we've heard

singularly unpopular in the world, i'm looking at polling here, not your state, but virginia, pennsylvania, nevada, iowa, michigan, wisconsin, colorado, minnesota, deeply under water. you can see on the side that little last column, that's how far under water he is in terms of approval and disapproval. i wonder how much donald trump figures into the choices that people are making about what they want? is it an -- is it give me the opposite of this or do people need to be making an affirmative case for themselves? >> unfortunately, the truth is this is going to be an anti-donald trump election and we saw to the degree that that worked in 2016 or it didn't work. i mean that's the truth. the numbers say that it didn't work. and ultimately it seems like there might even be more splintering in 2020 amongst democratic lines which could yield a similar result. to the degree that these folks and specifically we're talking about elizabeth warren do not offer up their own vision and instead are playing defense to some childish, racist, horrible remarks that donald trump might make, and so that was s

in pennsylvania. but going back to paper ballots and then scanning those ballots and then having them available to look for abnormalities in the count is the way to protect ourselves today. there is no protectable digital solution today in february 2019. >> there was a guardian article on august 22nd of last year that said the most vulnerable part of election infrastructure is websites explained a security expert, former white house liaison on cybersecurity. unlike a voting machine, websites represent a kmcompelli target because they are connected to the internet 24/7. some argue that the websites in which you can get voter registration data may even be more vulnerable than voting machines. >> i would agree they are as vulnerable. i wouldn't want to say more vulnerab vulnerable. i think what we looked at at the university of pittsburgh in our commission on election security, we looked at machines. we looked at voter rolls and clearly anything connected to the internet, that open environment is going to be exposed to risk. >> david, good to talk to you. thank you for talking to me

the president. what about the 80,000 or so in wisconsin, michigan and pennsylvania who swung the election, does that work on them? >> this is the problem, craig, is that the president thus far has only governed and campaigned and spoken to his base. which is between 38% and 41% depending on the average of polling. he didn't reach out to the middle and independents swung 12 points for him in 2016 to 12 points for democrats election day 2018. a 24 point swing. if he does not win independents he won't win reelection next year. the problem for democrats is they're becoming a punching bag. the problem is with rhetoric that republicans can skew as proinfanticide, anti-israel, ant prosecutor and anti-airplane, they run the risk of becoming a line at a trump rally. the people who are running on the democratic side are going to have to watch that. >> anti-airplane, you're right. thank you, always good to have you, thanks for coming back. >>> the gop appeared to have some new targets for political attacks. why a trio of female freshmen democrats in congress appear to be taking nancy pelosi

new hampshire, joe biden in pennsylvania, but there are differences on things like free college education for all. what do you think of bernie's chances? how does he separate himself from a pack as opposed to opposition of essentially one, which was hillary clinton? >> look, i mean, given those fundraising numbers in three hours, his chances are, you know, at this point, pretty damn good. i think the fact that, you know, the party is -- bernie in 2016 staked out a far left position on a whole lot of issues, which makes it possible for senators klobuch klobuchar, harris, booker, all these other folks to talk about issues that come a little more to the center. but still move the party and the country left of where it was. i think the problem that bernie sanders is going to have, it's the same one he had in 2016. one, there are a lot of people who are upset that he is going to run for the democratic nomination, but refuses to actually join the democratic party. and the second thing is -- i think this is key -- in a party where the bedrock of the party is african-american voters, an

ohio, should have said pennsylvania, that they're going to nominate someone even donald trump could beat. so that causes them to become more cautious about fixing the trump political problem. it's a converse thing, but it's a feedback loop that's happening right now. >> as long as we keep inviting you, will you keep coming back? >> absolutely. i love it here. >> mike murphy, always a pleasure. >>> coming up, a man who made his bones in the comedy business now fighting for those who don't normally have a voice in washington but certainly should. that story, his story when we come back. >>> i'm embarrassed that you, after serving so selflessly with such heroism have to come down here and convince people to do what's right. >> that was jon stewart's message on behalf of first responders. that was four years ago. today, now 18 years after the attacks on september 11th, he's making the same argument. john's been fighting alongside members of congress and first responders for almost a decade trying to make sure our government funds medical monitoring and treatment for tens of thousands of

rand. it will move into areas of western new york. some is not hitting the ground here in pennsylvania. here's the snowfall forecast for today, rochester chest tore syracuse areas. we could see snow you could be plowing and half travel delays there. it looks like it's north of new york city, when you wake up tomorrow morning, you could have two inches on the ground, just enough to make you clear the car off or do light shoveling. so today, frigid high temperatures in the middle of the country. this is going to be the theme. wind chill values are negative 20. rapid city a high of 14. we are warm in the ohio valley, warm in the southeast. cold tomorrow in the northeast and then as we go towards the beginning of march, guys, not enjoyable. i was looking at fargo. on sunday, their high temperature is zero. that's the cold that's heading for all of us. >> didn't punxsutawney phil say that spring was coming sooner than later? >> never trust a rodent. >> thanks, bill. >>> still ahead theious tis department is dealt a blow as a major merger gets the green light to move forward. >>> ivanka trum

pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin, which gave him the presidency last time. as of now, they look out of reach for president trump. and that's because voting for an incumbent is different than voting for someone who has not yet held the office. the voters of pennsylvania, michigan, and wisconsin, who voted for donald trump now know who they voted for, much more clearly than they did on election night. they have now lived through the trump presidency, and many of those trump voters are now part of the 54% disapproval rating that donald trump has in pennsylvania and michigan and the 53% disapproval rating he has in wisconsin. here's gallup's trump job approval rating map of the united states. only the dark green states does donald trump have a job approval rating of 50% or higher. and that is the fabled trump base, those 17 dark green states. and so as you follow the trump presidency and the presidential campaign, ask yourselves what has donald trump said or done today that can change people's minds about his presidency from unfavorable to favorable? and almost every day the answer to that

power of the purpose strings has been at that end of pennsylvania avenue not with the white house. >> one of the consequences we face is the machinery of government that goes on every day and i will quote you to you. a piece you filed last night that just knocked me over when i read it. after nearly two years of delays the trump administration is moving ahead with it's plan to stop granting work permits to the spouses of many high-skilled visa workers. it could jeopardize tens of thousands of families in our community alone. rolling back permits could have sweeping consequences for the bay area where tech companies heavily rely on high skilled imgranti immigrants. it could imperil the family's ability to stay in the country or get jobs here to begin with. is what you're saying if you're a ph.d, engineer, working for microsoft, a two income family, your spouse works, this takes away the aublt for your spoubile to make a living? >> yeah, they're caught in a weird lope hole, they're legal immigrants approved for green cards but are yet to receive them because for countries, mainly in

ohio. >> that will be the case today, much in western pennsylvania and new york. the actual storm is exciting northern new england, heavy snow from portland northward to banger and caribou and presque isle. the accumulations were everywhere else, temperatures went above freezing. it's still very icy in central portions. a lot of school delays out there. this snow that's expected today and tonight, most coming off lake erie and ontario, a typical area. what's next? we are calling an atmospheric river. the reason we calm it that, here's hawaii the southerly jet stream is very active. a huge storm is coming into areas of california. it will be with us from san francisco into southern california will get it, too. we have flood watches for 26 million people, including san francisco, fresno, san diego and just outside of l.a. we're going to calm for at least two-to-four inches of rain in the areas outside of those big cities, especially the foothills. we'll have to wait and see how bad the flooding will be in california. this is probably the third biggest storm they've had this winter. the

it wouldn't surprise me that he on behalf of the people of scranton, pennsylvania would want to take him behind the gym. >> biden is also willing to be candid about his own party. >> "the washington post" quoted the former vp as saying of hillary clinton, i never thought she was a great candidate. >> biden continued saying he did think she would be a good president. following her loss, pundits speculated what might have happened if biden had been the democratic candidate. >> this is the great what-if. i think the minute donald trump got elected every political observer in the country said, you know what, joe biden -- >> joe biden is thinking, if only. >> if only. i tell you, a lot of democrats are thinking that. >> the states that put trump over the top against hillary clinton, rust belt, it was michigan, it was wisconsin, it was pennsylvania. where is joe biden from? joe biden, from scranton, pennsylvania. do you think he could have won the extra 70,000 votes? >> could joe biden have defeated donald trump? >> oh, i don't know. i'm not going to speculate on it. >> the rust belt? >> l

pennsylvania avenue with our latest reporting on how this might avoid another government shutdown. why some conservatives are so ticked off about it and what else the president might do even if he backs this thing. he may talk about it later after talking plenty overnight after a potential 2020 rival. revving the engine on his reelection campaign. we're talking the twin texas rallies. and what beto o'roarke is telling us about his future. he's running, he says, it's not what he may think. >>> plus the reporter scooping the story of who might have leaked the not suitable for work jeff bezos texts. and why the national enquirer inquired about working for a foreign government. >>> we start with new reaction to the border deal and the details we've learned. multiple sources familiar with the plan tell us it includes $1.375 billion for 55 miles of new border fencing. although not a concrete wall. this is twice as many miles adds funded in 2018, but it's not what the president asked for. it would pay for more than 40,000 ice detention beds. here's the big question. is the president down

told me i like brown and klobuchar because they can win the midwest. winning michigan, pennsylvania, and wisconsin. voters don't run the electability through a matrix. they go with their gut. >> nancy, remarkably the president is engaging with these primary candidates. usually the president sits back, waiting until there's someone who looks like they could be a nominee. not this president. >> he's very engaged and watching the field closely. i know aides tell me he was watching harris's kickoff campaign in oakland and was impressed by that rollout. some of his campaign people have been worried about worried about amy klobuchar thinking she could do well in the midwest. i think it's going to be fascinating to see how the president reacts over twitter. he's reacting to elizabeth warren, calling her pocahontasp. he wants to try to dominate and whittle down the field to his own liking rather than sort of just leaving it to democratic primary voters. >> and doug, nancy raises amy klobuchar, she's dealing with her own set of controversies. chief among them, she's tough to work for in a wa

days. >> ben bradlee jr.'s written a new book about what happened in pennsylvania in the last election. hazeltine. about people not liking all the neighborhoods. heidi klum's coming in from northern europe. it's ethic tribalism. is it because he's talking to the people up there. is he talking to rush limbaugh? whose tlr boss? >> i think joy's right. 12 or 13% on election day 2016 through a whole series of circumstances. i think, to me i think we have to see the world to some extent the way trump sees it and i firmly believe that all of us here think off a night like this and it was the chapter in the woodrow wilson story. he reinstituted the state of the union, going to the house. this is the podium from which franklin roosevelt declared war and linden johnson said we shall overcome. for president trump, this is a season premier of a new show. and he sees this as reality television. he doesn't see it as reality. and i think if we don't get inside his head a little bit we're going to be playing by one set of rules while he plays by another. >> how will donald trump acknowledge speaker p

. pennsylvania got hit with a lot of ice, too. the best news of all, this afternoon we're into the 50s as far north as hartford. anybody who has icing conditions this morning, it will be greatly improved by the lunch hour. birmingham is in the middle of heavy rain. we have 16 million people still in flash flood watches here. that's going to tun for a while. we have a big storm in the west. it snowing again in las vegas this weekend. especially on saturday blizzard conditions from iowa to minnesota and severe storms, maybe even tornadoes in areas to the south. a lot of active weather ahead. new york city, visibility is poor this morning, will improve this morning. a lot of people that had flights cancelled or delayed yesterday, you should be able to get out today. no problem in the east coast. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back ♪ ♪ fight cancer. these are the specialists we're proud to call our own. experts from all over the world working closely together to deliver truly personalized cancer care. expert medicine works here. learn more at cancercenter.com. when your flight

, pennsylvania and michigan. of course those are three sthats delivered in the presidency in 2016 but they turned on him in 2018. so i wouldn't be surprised if they're calibrating messages to try and win back those voters that they lost. >> i got to ask you about another note you guys are looking at. the concerns before 2020, as he gets on the phone and taubes to people outside the white house. they're saying joe biden poses the biggest threat to his presidency. >> trump's political advisers and others that he seeks political advice from have long thought joe biden would be the most challenging because they see biden as the candidate that is most likely to take from trump that he won in 2016. whenever i read something that trump is worried about a certain candidate, it doesn't quite ring true to my own reporting bus trump privately has the same bluster that he does publicly. in any of my reporter, people have neff said expressed concern or an awareness that he has a vulnerability. it may have happened but just not in high reporting. >> it looks like the president is going to get anoth

industrial midwestern states like pennsylvania, wisconsin that go beyond his base that's where the concern is rather than looking at another potential primary challenger ahead of 2020. >> one thing to possibly dent the president a little bit are the investigations that are constantly in the pipeline and let's talk a little bit about that subpoena that we referenced at the top of the show of the trump magnituinaugural committe. >> this president has been bogged down by investigation offer investigation. a lot of people were hoping that mu robert mueller's investigation, the subpoena and documents being requested from the inaugural committee show despite what happens with this russia investigation there will be financial and other investigations that are going to plague him ahead of the 2020 election. and it's damaging. right now it's still unclear. they are not excusing anyone of wrongdoing yet but i think that the southern district ever new york investigation what's going on in new york has been overlooked in many ways compared to the mural investigation, especially when you consid

snow over central pennsylvania up to buffalo to rochester and syracuse. notice the rain in d.c. that's the trend. everyone in the northeast will get hit by a quick two to four inches of snow and a period of sleet and freezing rain. so by 6:00 p.m. as everyone is riding home heavy snow over boston, new york city is over to rain. the official snow totals for the most part in areas of the northeast and wisconsin area we're looking at four to six inches of rain and snow and the northeast new york city about three to four inches. boston about four to six. your biggest snowstorm of the winter. you only had two inches. not that much for you to shovel. new york city the timing of the heaviest snow 9:00 a.m. to noon tomorrow. that's when we'll have the most significant travel delays on the roads and the airports. you're watching "morning joe". we'll be right back. ht back. from the very beginning ... it was always our singular focus, to do whatever it takes, use every possible resource, to fight cancer. and never lose sight of the patients we're fighting for. our cancer treatment specialists sh

pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, that trump carried in 2016 and that he would hope to carry again if he were to win reelection in 2020, that biden can appeal to those sort of working class white voters who gravitated toward trump last go-round. but the president's advisers are also keeping a very close eye on kamala harris, the senator from california. they thought -- the president has said he thought her announcement rollout over the last month was very strong. she had a big crowd in california and she has that sort of star appeal that makes trump a little bit nervous. but look, it's a big field, and i think the trump campaign is sort of beginning to adjust and will deal with whoever the nominee becomes. >> yamiche, let me follow up with you on the point that phil raises, because we know that the president spoke to "the new york times" about kamala harris' rollout and said this, first of all ahe called her "kameela." he said, i would say in terms of the opening act, i would say would be her. he added, a better crowd, better crowd, better enthusiasm. this is a president who unders

kennedy building on pennsylvania avenue with its years of tradition and very serious focus of evaluating cases based solely on the facts and the law, he will listen to that carefully and make an independent decision based on the evidence that's available. >> here's hoping. i want to read sarah huckabee sanders' statement. she's out with this quote today. the president urged me, like he has everyone in the administration, to fully cooperate with the special counsel. i was happy to voluntarily sit down with him. it's hard to read that without wondering if the president urged her, like he has everyone in the administration, to fully cooperate with the special counsel, if he did all of that urging before or after he typed his daily witch-hunt tweet. >> this is a witch-hunt, this is politicized, this is absolutely out of bounds. yes, this is not, i don't believe that is how the conversation went. >> she is the perfect spokesperson for him if she can put this out with a straight face. >> exactly. and we've already echoed this is not a surprise at all. robert mueller is going to go over this in

constantly thinking of pennsylvania, ohio, michigan, wisconsin and minnesota. who could win in a general election there? and i really don't think this will be the year for a 70-something white male candidate with the possible exception of joe biden who i think might have that kind of appeal in terms of electability there, but there's no question about it that this election is going to be decided in the electoral college and the upper midwest. >> and the klobuchar campaign focusing on exactly that area. she hasn't gotten the publicity that kamala harris has, but she had a good rollout, susan paige. >> she had a good rollout and stunningly doing your rollout in the blizzard turned out to be a big plus because that's the image we carry around and she's being gritty with all of the snow piled on her head. back to the previous point about obama. one thing that's interesting and not talking to the other previous democratic presidents, carter and clinton, and people are not talking to hillary clinton or john kerry who won the nomination before, and obama's endorsement, of course, would

. it was weeks later when they finally caught him, shoplifting in bethlehem, pennsylvania. while more than $38,000 in cash was in his car. the altmans visited him in jail. >> you know, i asked him how he was doin'. and he said, "you know, not great." he talked about how he pretty much was gonna do maybe suicide by cop. >> reporter: but bob of course didn't pull that particular trigger and was sent back to texas for trial, where his houston attorney dick deguerin devised the defense that beat the murder charge. >> it was a simple case of a struggle over a gun, and the gun went off. if it truly was self-defense, then what happened after the killing doesn't change that. >> reporter: bob wasn't so confididn't he'd get off. in fact he asked his friends the altmans to help him learn more about what life behind bars would be like for him. >> he thought that if we got to know the ins and outs that maybe it would be easier for him once he was on the inside. >> reporter: he worried about how he'd hear his favorite music, for example. >> he was trying to find out if maybe there was a radio stati

wisconsin, like michigan, like ohio, like pennsylvania. he won all of those. if he loses any combination of two in another state, he becomes vulnerable. those were all close races in the last go-around. >> yeah, in fact, he won wisconsin by less than 1 percentage point. hillary clinton never went there to campaign. chris, it was, however, the first stop for amy klobuchar. >> that's exactly right. to piggyback on rick's point, when you look at the states that donald trump picked up in 2016, michigan, minnesota -- michigan, wisconsin, pennsylvania, you saw that starting to go back into the blue category in the 2020 midterm. obviously when you've got somebody like amy klobuchar, potentially share rod brown who have appeal in the midwest and starts like arizona could come back into play. it's going to be hard to see donald trump replicating the map that he did in 2016. his approval ratings are not good but you never count him out. he's got a very strong base. i think democrats who are looking past him and think he's vulnerable do that at great peril. >> thanks to rick tyler and c

across the pennsylvania border. there they eventually found a few scattered human remains and sent them to a lab for testing. >> i just couldn't imagine the pain and suffering and the fear she went through being alone in that place with her two best friends. and she knew what was happening when they started stabbing her. >> authorities kept rachel's confession secret even from the neeses while the investigation continued. the fbi told mary and dave only that remains believed to be skylar's had been found. >> i broke down pretty bad, yeah. >> we both did. that was a bad day. >> it was so lonely and so deserted. and it was a horrible thing to know that she had been there and no one knew. >> one, two, three, go! happy birthday, skylar! >> in february of 2013, just as they had since she was a little girl -- >> i'm ready. >> -- the neeses gathered with friends on skylar's birthday. this time without her. they quietly told the lawrences their awful news. >> did your heart just break for mary and dave? >> my heart was slowly breaking the entire time. >> i remember the first thing i felt i

states like pennsylvania and michigan and some states that president trump was able to win that surprised a lot of us, and say what are the numbers looking like in those states as far as the support for the president. if the numbers are in the president's corner, then some of the democrats will be more careful, if you will to criticize or critique or vote against it, because they are looking at the perspective of i want to win over some of the voters who traditionally vote democrat, but may vote for president trump and consider switching over to vote for a democrat again next time around, and this is why some of the democrats are going to be voting in the favor which is a surprise to a lot of us. >> doug, it is as if it is splitting the party apart. >> i am not sure if it is splitting the party apart. you have some of the members who voted for it who are trying to position themselves as pragmatists and folks who can get it done in washington, and they wanted to avoid a shutdown, and this is the best solution at the time, and then you have some of the other candidates running who are a lit

save big at the buy 2 get 1 free event. at office depot officemax. >>> pennsylvania went red for the first time in 28 years by a margin of .7%. a lot has happened since then in special elections and the midterms, last month's government shut down hit pennsylvanians hard where the largest employerer as of december was the federal government. joining me now is phillip who just got back. it was close for donald trump in 2016, but in places in pennsylvania, the support for trump was intense to put it mildly. those were some of the most intense rallies that i went to. the people there were die hard believers in donald trump. has that stayed the same? >> i think you will still find those intense supporters. i spent the state of the union address with two really big supporters of donald trump, but i think you're starting to see it ebb a little bit. they're not quite as support i -- supportive as they once were. people are not necessarily strongly opposed. you get people that don't really want to talk about it any more. don't want to talk about politics in dprl. people who are feeling a full

congressman of pennsylvania ryan costello. gentlemen, thank you very much. there was a lot of crossover for bernie sanders and trump voters in 2016. or there seemed to be at least while they were both primary contenders. look at these numbers. in pennsylvania, mr. costello, 117,000 people said that they could see themselves supporting bernie sanders over donald trump potentially. that could have been a real game changer for the republicans. >> i knew some of them. it was a combination of your blue dog democrats that liked trump's jobs message, and also, let's not forget, the anti-establishment -- trump was anti-establishment. bernie was anti-establishment. i shouldn't say this, but blow up the system, start from scratch with something that both of them kind of manifested in their primary. >> what does that look like today? >> see, here's the thing. i have a fundamental pushback on this, this idea that democrats need to be chasing trump voters. if you look at what trump did in the midwest compared to, say, what obama did and back to back majorities, trump has not a a majority, but a pola

criminal conduct. phil rucker, what are the biggest concerns at 1600 pennsylvania over what might be in that report? >> the concerns according to the advisers i've talked to is the report could document a sort of pattern of bad behavior by president trump that may not cross the line into criminal activity, but could be politically damaging, that could make him look suspicious, look bad, document all the ways in which he's tried to stymie these probes, tried to influence aides and that could create fodder that could stick with him for a long time and could be a point of attack, frankly, from democrats as the 2020 campaign gears up. there's a concern that the report could be more damaging and veer into the criminal space, perhaps provide a reason for house democrats to begin impeachment proceedings. but that, according to white house advisers, is a worst case scenario. they are prepared more for the political damage. >> president will be overseas in vietnam next week at the second summit with kim jong-un. the timing of the release of the report, is there any reason to think the special

lost in pennsylvania, it was lost in michigan, it was lost in wisconsin and she even made a joke saying how she would campaign in wisconsin, which of course hillary clinton famously did not in the stretch run of the campaign. i think there is some recognition at least in certain quarters of the party that they win more local races in states like these, win senate races so they have the ability to help shape the judiciary, which right now of course mitch mcconnell and donald trump is arguably their most biggest accomplishment is bringing in conservative judge after conservative judge after conservative judge on to the court. >> we'll talk 2020. next up, axios is lock toking ae phenom who is not aoc. we'll tell how that is next. aoc. we'll tell how that is next. whee sugar in your family's diet, coke, dr pepper and pepsi hear you. we're working together to do just that. bringing you more great tasting beverages with less sugar or no sugar at all. smaller portion sizes, clear calorie labels and reminders to think balance. because we know mom wants what's best. more beverage choices,

cannot be counted on. >> former vice president, joe biden, speaking yesterday in pennsylvania. >> mike, is he going to jump in? >> i don't know. he's got a big event this coming tuesday, the 26th of february, the opening of the biden center at the university of delaware, being interviewed by jon meacham on stage at the end of the day. maybe he will have something to say then, maybe he won't. i think what he's thinking, whatever he chooses to do, and i think he is still undecided in his own mind at this point but he wants to maybe lengthen the game and announce the end of march or this month. >> he wants to run, he has to be talked out of it at this point, fair to say? >> he has to talk himself out of it. >> i would understand that. >> he has time. looking at the latest polls, a lot of people love the guy. he's the only democrat that starts with a lead outside the margin of error over donald trump by 10 points. >> he knows the difference, joe, between polling numbers that are basically name recognition anthropology numbers that show, oh, he can beat trump. >> there are people w

anxious to pull the pin out of this grenade. get a pass and toss it down pennsylvania avenue. >> i think so, that's why you are seeing people on both sides, saying, yep, we are okay with the deal even though we haven't seen the text yet. we are seeing the bill rushed s through. of course it has to be thee on president's desk before friday at midnight because part of the government would lose funding after that. so we'll see the senate move tomorrow, then the house. and they are just kind of trying to move things along reallylo hoping that the president doesn't change his mind at the last minute, which he has done before. >> now, eliza, it's -- if you are a-- viewer of broadcasts lie bill mar, you know the left has fun revving to president coulter, there is that pressure on thisr, president, on the rig, there is ann coulter, sean hannity and others at fox news who he listens to and cares about. and then there is mark meadowshe of the house freedom caucus, let us in on their thinking and how this could still gnaw at and influence the president? >> this is a group that helped him in t

university of pennsylvania for what he described as onesc of his quote last significant events within the justice s department where has worked since he was 25 years old. rosenstein who authorized and oversaw the special counsel's investigation has been repeatedly attacked by president trump inha recent days and over the last two years, but he encouraged students to go into pick service. >> the truth is that everyone's life is a product of random events and consequential decisions. the random events are things that happen to you beyond your control. the consequential decisions are what you choose to do about it. remember, the truth is not determined by opinion polls and history is not written by television pundits. ignore p the mercenary critics d focus on the things that matter because a republic that endures for centuries is not governed by the daily news cycle. i'm proud of what the department of justice accomplished on my watch and the trump administration. in 1940 attorney general robert jackson explainedrn the governmt lawyers must at times risk ourselves and our records to defe

trump voters who otherwise would be democrats in pennsylvania, ohio, michigan, wisconsin. >> even looking at your three b's, though, there's some diversity there. biden is 76 years old. beto o'rourke is 46 years old. there is a 30-year age difference there. this is really going to be a remarkable field. i think the fact that there is no frontrunner in the field this big encourages it to get bigger, because who knows what is going to happen with this democratic field? >> it reminds me of 1988. >> but sort of bigger than '88. we've never -- look, if we hit 18 candidates, which i feel pretty confident we will, it will be the biggest field in modern american history. >> with some of the oldest candidates. i mean, bernie, you know, as well as elizabeth warren, there are a number of older candidates. and now mike bloomberg possibly jumping in, as you just pointed out, and biden. on the other scale, beto o'rourke. >> our mayor pete, i think he's 37. >> and eric swalwell is young. >> eric swalwell says he won't run for reelection from california if he decides to run for the presidency. bu

election and going back to the key states that won the election, michigan, wisconsin and pennsylvania, he is down by around 8 percentage points in one or two of the states there. maybe that looks tough for him come 2020. >> taxes, which we talked about in those states and tariffs. all of those things are having a huge impact on those swing states and voters -- that is something that voters are going to remember because it is not just about an income tax check but about their job and livelihood and ability to pay for health care and such. so yes, i think he'll feel that effect come 2020. but the other issue is -- and this goes back to simple politics, bill clinton would say this all of the time, you have to convince voters to fire him and hire you. i think the democrats could make the case to fire him but each democrat and there are so many of them, but they'll have to make the case for why they can do better. >> and iowa might be open according to this poll, he's of percentage points down but that could change. so susan, finish on this, jussie smollett and a pro-trump superpac saying look

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, as a stock boy or as a professor at the university of pennsylvania, i get my insurance, my employer sponsors it but it basically is coming out of my salary in a hidden way as a fringe benefit. so if you went to medicare for all, that money that's really coming out of my salary would have to be transferred to the government and then the government would dole it out, as you point out, either to doctors and hospitals through traditional medicare or to insurance companies and doctors and hospitals through medicare part c. i think it's important to distinguish one is how the money changes but the fact is it's not going to be more money, it just going to be which ledger is it on. is it on the tax ledger or on the employment fringe benefit measure? >> can we afford medicare for all from birth till -- >> as i said, chris, the actual total price is not going to be much different than what we're paying now. it's a matter of which pot it's going to come from, not that the pot is going to grow. medicare for all is not growing how much we're spending on health care. each year we spend $3.5 trill

. there was a trump hotel that was conveniently five blocks down pennsylvania avenue, opened just before the inauguration, and they wanted to host events at this trump hotel. i reviewed an e-mail from a trump organization member who had quoted for the use of the ballroom in the trump hotel, $3.6 million. >> that seems cheap -- i'm kidding. >> for a ballroom. >> the rental of a ballroom in the hotel. >> and food and beverage, i want to add that. >> this is money that's going from the presidential inaugural committee directly to the trump organization. now, the cost ultimately was scaled down to $1.5 million, but this was the initial quote. this is something that walcoff raised with ivanka trump. these things are going to become public because they're going to be audited. we have to think, is this the most seemly thing we could do paying this amount of money. she responded, make sure that we're paying fair market rate. they still paid the family business $1.5 million for the use of a ballroom for i believe one event. >> also i see in your article, the name tom barrick, he has potentially a

checkpoints. they don't end up in michigan, wisconsin or pennsylvania. >> perhaps the president's biggest applause line tonight was unintentional, as he tried to tout his administration's accomplishments for women. let's watch. >> no one has benefitted more from our thriving economy than women who have filled 58% of the newly created jobs last year. [ applause ] you weren't supposed to do that. thank you very much. thank you very much. all americans can be proud that we have more women in the workforce than ever before. [ applause ] don't sit yet. you're going to like this. >> well, you know, joy, all those women dressed in white to make a point. here they are laughing because they've sort of turned the tables because they all have new jobs. >> correct. >> u.s. members of congress. >> he doesn't get it. donald trump is congratulating himself for all of the new women who have gotten jobs in the country while the women are congratulating themselves for having these new jobs in congress that are in large part because of the revulsion against donald trump's mistreatment of women. he just was

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made to the voters in the upper midwest, in pennsylvania. to the middle of the road voters. they might have an argument with that. when you look at who voted for donald trump and what's happening in macomb county, you will see there's some economic worry there that he hasn't represented them as he promised. >> very quickly, kimberly, you have covered elizabeth warren for a long time. the issue of her identity and this native american identity, it came up in another place that was found. it was interesting her announcement coverage. i was curious to see how much it would be part of it. "the new york times" didn't mention it until graph 14. politico was in the headline, in the first graph of "the washington post" and "the washington post." is she ever going to be able to put this behind her? >> she is working on it. she talked about the issues affecting people of color and that's where the fault line is because people of color don't like it when a person who are not a person of color try to claim to be. it's beyond the native american problem. so in that sense, she addressing it, b

, pennsylvania, virginia, north carolina and florida. a lot of those states went for barack obama a couple times and then went for donald trump. >> and the candidate who gets that will be the candidate who becomes the nominee and perhaps the candidate who can beat donald trump. it been interesting it's been interesting to see it's been nancy pelosi who has pulled back the most progressive wing of her party, whether it's been questions of impeachment or the new deal. i just want to ask you, joyce vance, on this national emergency, for the president it gives him cover. i'll fight this all the way to the supreme court, that's how important that wall is to me. if i get turned away at the supreme court, at least i went all the way to the wall, if you'll forget the pun there. what's the first step but it may even get to the supreme court? >> so this will have to go first to a trial court, one of the federal districts on to a circuit court and then to the supreme court. there are already multiple groups looking at filing initial lawsuit. in california, the attorney general has referenced it. nanc