but a bit like what happened earlier at oxford circus, what police have done is formed a circle around the protesters on the bridge to try and keep the numbers contained. what we haven't seen yet is them move in like at oxford circus, to try to ta ke like at oxford circus, to try to take people away. what protesters have been doing is lying on the ground, so the police are forced to carry them away from here. but the message from the police is people have had enough of this. this is stretching their resources, it's taking resources away from fighting other types of crime, and we really heard that usual plea from the commission at the metropolitan police saying please, if you want to protest, there is a lawful designated site. that is at marble arch. by remaining here, you are breaking the law, the police have gotan breaking the law, the police have got an order saying that people cannot be here. but the protesters are saying well, they are making their point, they are determined to stay here, and that's what we've got a bit ofa stay here, and that's what we've got a bit of a standoff.