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members of both sides of congress have threatened sanctions if he doesn't back off. they invited the senators in to demonstrate to erdogan the force on capitol hill. the president has been complimentary of erdogan in the past. but the relationship has become strained. >> joe johns, thank you for explaining all of that. >>> day one of the public impeachment hearings had viewers glued to their tvs. what did swing voters in one key swing state think? that's next. blood to the body. don't take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. ♪la-di-la-di-dah don't take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren, or if you've had angioedema with an ace or arb. the most serious side effects are angioedema, low blood pressure, kidney problems, or high blood potassium. ask your doctor about entresto. ♪the beat goes on yeah! ♪ even though ♪ i find you so captivating ♪ and i'm done with hesitating let's see where this goes? save on a gift that says it all. ♪ jared

on impeachment, a growing number of witnesses testifying before congress have confirmed that military aid was being with held until ukraine agreed to announce investigations into president trump's rivals and confirmation that yes, the ukrainians did know a quid pro quo existed and testifying will happen behind closed doors. they hope to refocus the public hearings on joe biden's son and perhaps the whistle blower and tuesday night's political fallout, president trump made a special trip to kentucky to support republican governor matt beven. democrats took control, though, of both houses of the virginia legislature for the first time in a generation and also swept local elections from missouri to

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information that should have been kept within the jurisdiction of the house intelligence committee in congress is probably a pretty good indicator why you wouldn't want to do that. it's really unfortunate. i do believe if this things moves to a broader inquiry and impeachment, the whistleblower will likely and should testify not necessarily in open about what the whistleblower knew and the kinds of people. because you want to make sure you get all of those bits and pieces along the way, which i think would be really important in the investigation. but the whistleblower has protections. i think they're invoking that right now, not that i would say that either party here has acted very well in this process. but i can completely understand why the whistleblower wants to maintain the whistleblower protection status. as a part of that, they said you could do these written questions. at the end of the day, it's probably not going to be enough, but i do think that it's not a bad idea to try to protect your identity in what has turned into an absolute vicious partisan fight. >> let's talk about declas

wednesday, let's be clear the white house has blown through a lot of deadlines, whether or not that's with congress or courts, i wouldn't look at that sunday deadline as firm and fast. as everyone is watching those, there are probably 18 million news cycles to get through before we get to an actual decision. i only exaggerate by a slight factor. >> any idea who they might send, who the attorney might be? >> reporter: we know they've distanced themselves from rudy giuliani. the president last night in the interview with bill o'reilly, he was putting space between him and his personal attorney. he always talks about what a great crime fighter rudy giuliani is and how he's anti corruption. but whether or not you'd actually have giuliani or pat sip own any, they haven't given an indication yet. the white house has not blessed this process with legitimacy. should they send any representative from the white house down to the hearing, that lends it a little credibility that so far they've been loathed to give. i would be skeptical on this so far. i think they're still reviewing it. >> lee ann, moving forw

it's about much more than just the contest between the democrats and congress and the republican president. it really goes to a fundamental question about whether the president himself can be forced to testify. granted, the house isn't asking for that. but the logic of the judge's ruling is that the reason that white house senior employees don't have immunity from congressional testimony is that the president himself may not before immune. it's a big deal ruling. i would think the courts of appeals are going to take some time to chew this over. >> hans, meanwhile, the president apparently a few moments ago tweeting about don mcgahn and other potential witnesses as well. what did he say? going forward, what options does the white house have to stop key witnesses from testifying? >> they have the appeal option which pete laid out pretty well. what the president is saying he's doing this to defend the institution of the presidency and doing it for future presidents. it's an argument we've heard from past presidenting. they always say they're doing this for the sake of the presidency, for the

testify before congress, a decision that could pave the way for other key officials to testify as well. in rejecting the administration's absolute immunity argument, the judge wrote presidents are not kings. this means that they do not have subjects, bound by loyalty or blood, whose destiny they are entitled to control. rather, in this land of liberty, it is undisputable that current and former employees of the white house work for the people of the united states. our nbc news team is here with reaction from capitol hill and the white house. we'll also be talking with the lawmaker who sits on one of those key committees, preparing the point impeachment report. garrett haake is on capitol hill, hans nichols is at the white house, pete williams has more on what is next. let's start on the hill because it's the next big phrase of the impeachment inquiry. where do we go from here? >> reporter: the best way to think of this is that the fact finding stage is largely over. here preparing their report, a summation of everything we learned in open hearings, behind closed doors, and to the degre

on impeachment, a growing number of witnesses testifying before congress have confirmed that military aid was being with held until ukraine agreed to announce investigations into president trump's rivals and confirmation that yes, the ukrainians did know a quid pro quo existed and testifying will happen behind closed doors. they hope to refocus the public hearings on joe biden's son and perhaps the whistle blower and tuesday night's political

author of the athlete equality act in congress, republican mark walker of north carolina. thanks for joining us. >> thanks, charles. >> what is the essence of your bill? >> we drew up this back in march to make sure -- charles: all right. as you can see we just had a bit of technical difficulty there. if we get the congressman back, we'll continue this conversation. what is really compelling about this, to have a republican who sees perhaps merit in some of these student athlete being paid, at least for names and images. by the same token i want to bring the congressman back. we had a little bit of technical difficulty, sir. >> no problem. yeah, i was just saying that the student athlete equity act, what it does, it insures rights for all students to be able, all americans to be able to have access to the free market. 99% of these student athletes never receive a single dollar from a professional sports contract but in their peak earning times they have to sign a ban and says, it says i have

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don't like giving credibility to this no due process hoax, i like the idea, and will in order to get congress focused again, strongly

bribery or extortion along with contempt of congress, and perhaps other articles of impeachment. >> ron klein, i want to come back to the oath of office that these witnesses took that we saw really on vivid display today. those of us, every one of us on this panel have taken the oath of office. most of us never get tested on it the way they got tested on it today. most of us never have that moment where we literally have to step up to the battle line to defend the constitution the way they did today. what was it like for you to watch them raise their hand, step up and defend the constitution? >> you saw today dr. hill told the truth when john bolton sold the truth. that's a difference how you view your constitutional obligations. everyone, staffers, as you alluded to earlier, lauren, we've all taken the oath. the day will come when you have to dot hard thing. what we saw fod was some people who did the hard thing,

. >>> joining us now, one of the members of congress investigating the abuse of power, ted lieu, he's a part of the house judiciary and house foreign affairs committee part of the committees undertaking the impeachment inquiry. congressman, let me start with the no-shows from that white house. four official, i believe, did not appear today citing, i think, executive privilege. the white house not wanting them to appear. what's your reaction to that? >> thank you, chris, for your question. the american people should be asking what is the white house trying to hide? if they really thought that this was a perfect phone call, as donald trump alleges, then they would be happy to have the white house officials come and explain about that phone call, explain what the message was with regard to ukraine. instead, they're obstructing witnesses, they're telling them not to come and it's very unfortunate we're not going hear their stories today. >> what do you make about the revelations in marie yovanovitch's testimony that at one point the secretary of state says that he will call sean hannity t

capitol hill to ask members of congress about the reading list. >> senator marsha blackburn, what is on your reading list these days? >> i got a great reading list. this week i downloaded "talking to strangers" from one of my favorite authors, welcome gladwell. i was so jealous last week and my husband and son attended a breakfast where he was speaking, and, of course, i have read everything that he has written and have followed his columns for years. along with blink and "outliers" and what the dog saw and the others i've now downloaded on my kindle "talking to strangers," just a little bit into it, not that far but totally intrigued. i also made certain that i have my 2020 farmer's almanac downloaded. i'm looking at that. you can't beat good reading when it comes to the farmer's

. >> and davy crockett was elected to congress, and third time he got defeated. he went to jackson, tennessee. lamar alexander and i were talking about this, he went to a little courthouse in jackson, tennessee and stood up on the courthouse and said, sure enjoyed working for you, but he said you all may go to hell, i'm going to texas. [laughter] >> you're going to do something similar, going to capitol hill, the white house? >> i'm going to tell anybody to go to hell. it's been an incredible four -- three years of working up here and i'm -- i love my wife and i

thanks to many of the people here today, my administration, and republicans in congress have now confirmed more than 150 federal judges. to be honest with you it is substantially higher right now than that, mitch. it is about 159 and we should have within the next short period of time, two months, we should have about 182 federal judges. how is that? [applause]

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i can't believe you're going to be leaving congress one of these days. i was so disappointed to see that, but you're fantastic. and we all work together with everybody, all of us. come on up here, the two of you. i'd like you discuss right to try a little bit. and i mean, you think about it's really a very important part of health care. >> it is. >> the ultimate part of health care. and for 45 years they've been trying to get it passed and they couldn't do it. and greg walden, the three of us plus a lot, we've got it done. congressman, thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you very much. go ahead. please. >> well, thank you, mr. president. we've never had a president lean further forward on behalf of patients than president trump. and we finally got into law a right to try. now you're going to get in place right to know. we should have the right to know what these things cost. i was here with you when you talked about surprise medical billing. and we are very close to legislating on that, mr. president. and that is a huge win for consumers. this is

adam schiff gets up before congress and he made up my statement. brian: right. >> who made that statement? he made it up. then after he got caught, three days later he started saying parody. the thing i did that was right, brian, the thing i did that was right, i released the transcript of the call immediately. had i not done that, i would have had a big problem. a big problem because they all lied about my call. my call was perfect. if you heard adam schiff's made-up version of my call, i mean it was the worst thing i

[applause] she said to herself, i failed in congress, let's go for senate. she wanted to go to the house. now she wants to go. it doesn't work that way. extreme liberal, anti-gun, lots of different things. amy mcgrath compared my election, think of this. so insulting. should i say it? why not? so insulting. he worked so hard and love your country so much and they get up to say things and she compared it to 9/11. she wants open borders and supports the impeachment witchhunt like nobody and wants to get rid of me. she was not

so she said to herself, well, you know, i failed in congress, now let's go for the senate. she wanted to go to the house, now she wants to go. it's not going work that way. extreme liberal, anti-gun, lots of different things. amy mcgrath compared my election -- think of this one, so insulting, i shouldn't say. should i stay? yeah, why not. no, it's so insulting. you work so hard, you love your country so much, and they get up and say things. she compared it to 9/11, a slander upon our nation. she wants open borders. she supports the impeachment hoax, witch hunt like nobody. yeah, she wants to get rid of me. she wasn't too happy with me last year. we came in handy, and we did a job on her. and this is going to be easy.

a so-called venezuela democracy caucus it's a bipartisan group in the us congress created in support of the opposition in venezuela she held up a sign saying no coups in venezuela bolivia democratic congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz was speaking to the media when things turned nasty. honestly i don't mind waving a flag. on the stump you're right. but. i didn't so she was shoved to the ground and threatened well the democratic congresswoman wasserman schultz claims that she was the one who was physically assaulted. to be physically assaulted by a putin and so freedom is really mind blowing but this why i and for scientists do we need to come together on a bipartisan basis to make sure we can bring creedon and democracy once again to the venue so when people we were at the press conference there were about 6 of us and the rest of the group was people who support the venezuelan position and when we held up our signs every single one of them was grabbed from our hands by these.

being the one to assault congress woman debbie wasserman schultz. there was a bulleted put out for my arrest. they showed up at my house, five cop cars plus police on motorcycles. they threatened to arrest me. i was very intimidated and i must say that i feel that this is par for the course because, unfortunately, the police, whether it is the capitol police, d.c. police, or secret service, have always been working and anglo withth the venezuelan opposition. and every time we get assaulted, which unfortunately is on a regular basis, we ask them to be arrested and the police won't do it and it's that we get charged. amy: explain what happened. they came to your house, what, like five squad cars of policic, attempteted to arrest you but wt happened? >> and motorcycles. i asked where the warrant was for my arrest and they did not have it. they waited and waited and said their detectives were looking over the footage they had.

congress approved that money. and congress was not given a reasonable explanation as to why there was a hold on this money. that's what you're taking issue with. >> well, that's right. there are different pieces to this, ali. one is just violations of the appropriations process. gao issued opinion back in 2018 saying that presidents could not arbitrarily impound money or

. >> do you think this is a separate ground for instruction of impeachment on congress? >> i do, but i think more boodly -- >> do you think that will happen? >> i do, and chairman schiff has said that obstruction is going to be one of the things we consider. but i think more broadly what this is telling the american public is that this administration has something to

rajer stone was convicted today of lying to congress. he faces 60 years in prison. >> that's a terrible conviction rate. i have known roger for 50 years. he worked for me a couple times. he walked himself into this thing. the bottom line is he was a trump advisor.

next guest, deb holland of new mexico who is also one of the first native american women elected to congress. representative, thank you for being with us tonight. >> thank you. i'm honored to be here, reverend al. >> now, i'm going to jump right in. you called president trump a racist. why? >> i mean, he's got a white nationalist who is managing his immigration policy. i mean, i could go on and on with a long list of reasons why, not to mention the fact that he uses the word, the name pocahontas as a racial slur. >> you are a native american. how do you deal with him using that, and do you think if your candidate, elizabeth warren, is nominated, that he's going to try to bring this back to attack her and how will the campaign deal with it if she's successful in being the nominee?

the department will not discipline any employee for appearing before congress in response to a subpoena. the department has proactively established a program to provide financial assistance and legal fees incurred by department employees. there is additional information, but that was the essence of the message. >> therefore, are you saying that she is a dedicated and courageous patriot? >> i adores what you say exactly.

tune in this sunday for state of the union as amy klobuchar joins the show and democratic congress woman zoey loft gren at 9:00 a.m. and 12:00 p.m. eastern and our coverage on cnn continues right now. >>> this is a situation room special report. wolf blitzer is off today. i'm jim arks. we're tracking multiple breaking news this hour. terror overseas in london. two people are dead. and in the netherlands three people have been wounded in a stabbing in the hague. here in the united states we're on the verge of a historic week as the impeachment inquiry moves into a new phase. house judicial committee chairman jerry nadler set a new deadline for the white house to decide whether or not to participate in the proceeding. let's begin with today's deadly

include many members of congress, academics, and journalists. i want to play this for you, josh hawley and his call for some regulation of big tech. [video clip] >> social media, the pathology associated with social media, the data that comes to us about the correlation between social media usage and teenage suicide, depression, loneliness. we need more information. what we are seeing so far is very worrisome. we know what the business model is of these giant social media companies. the business model is to get us to spend as much time online as possible, to take as much information as they can without telling us, and then sell it and otherwise profit from it. that whole business model is based on the exploitation of consumers, families, individuals, children. that is something we should be concerned about. host: what do you hear from senator hawley? what direction do you think he

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congress is unlikely to undertake telecom activity. are there particular bills you support that you think have a fighting chance of getting passed in this legislative session? >> i can't speak to all the divisive issues. i am sure we have opinions on those. what i think is a neutral issue is advancing the economic about men of rural america. rod bend is one of those items. i think there is broad bipartisan support for some specific fixes. like the mapping effort we talked about bipartisan support and would be a good signal for both sides of the aisle that we are advancing the position of competitiveness of america. congress couldat come together around that and i think the fcc also has some tools that they have already begun that can help implement that even without the legislation. companies, ae ofmon beef, a plethora state and local regulations actually dealing with attachments. the physical issues of getting the wires on a pole are legion. has that -- what is the state of that today? how difficult or how easy is it getting to roll o

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congress at home. the president took the time to slam the dems and tout his successes sab calling out house speaker nancy pelosi or slow walking a major trade deal that would benefit millions of americans, canadians and members cans. he also told the american people to enjoy the stock market. all three major stock i

. >> reporter: news of the suspended military aid erupts, congress starts buzzing. did trump coerce a foreign government? trump releases military aid, a rough transcript of the call and goes on defense. >> take a look at that call. it was perfect. >> reporter: even as acting chief of staff affirms pressure was applied to ukraine. >> we do it all the time with foreign policy. news for everybody. get over it. >> reporter: he walks it back. trump orders officials to defy congressional subpoenas to explain what happened, and he insists there was never any kind of deal. >> there was no quid pro quo. there was no quid pro quo. >> at all. >> i want no quid pro quo. >> reporter: but his own ambassador sondland under oath says otherwise. >> was there a quid pro quo? >> as i testified previously with regard to the requested white house call and the white house meeting, the answer is, yes. >> reporter: the president and many republicans dismissed all of this as yet another conspiracy. an illicit effort to piush him out of office after being duly elected. one after another, wit

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now, whether -- whether that's going to get as much traction as -- as congress needs is another question. but something simple of great import. i think that's -- that's what people need to hear. >> yeah. something my mom used to tell me when she was going over my papers as a teacher. keep it simple stupid kiss, right? keep it simple stupid. sorry, mom. i had to say that. scott wong, thank you so much. daniel lippman, carol lamb. we'll talk to you a little later. coming up, joe bind kicking off his iowa bus tour. we'll take you there next. plus, the state of the 2020 race and reports that the kamala harris campaign could be having some trouble and struggle. doug ♪ and now for their service to the community, we present limu emu & doug with this key to the city. [ applause ] it's an honor to tell you that liberty mutual customizes your car insurance so you only pay for what you need. and now we need to get back to work. [ applause and band playing ] only pay for what you need. ♪ liberty. liberty. liberty. liberty. ♪ you may have gingivitis. when you brush, and the clock could be ticki

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>> i think there's a big debate among the lawyers and the members of congress. you know, my view is that it has to be a little wilder, and it has to bring mueller in because it -- it shows a pattern of the president, it's not just ukraine, i mean, that's an open and shut case. but there's a pattern that goes back to the first days of the white house and the russian interference, and bob mueller put ten distinct, specific examples of obstruction of justice in. so i think that will go in. i don't think they'll go into the collusion and all of that stuff. but i think they will look at ukraine, abuse of power, the bribery to get to the high crimes and misdemeanors. obstruction of congress because the most of the senior people at the white house haven't testified, and obstruction of justice. >> scott, i want to ask you about something that you briefly hit on at the top. as we go forward -- is this kind of moot? do you want to just see these proceedings sort of end the house vote and -- and get into what we think will be the inevitable next step, and that's the trial

how do we not litigate that in the congress? >> i mean, this goes back to shermichael's point. more republicans need to step up. i mean, i am so tired of reading these stories about the whispering republicans and the anonymous republicans who are wringing their hands over this presidency and they're so disappointed and so worried. if you are worried, then you need to say something on behalf of your party and on behalf of your country. >> and your constituents who voted for you to go and defend. >> exactly. but so many are worried about being primaried by pro-trump supporters, they're choosing to remain silent. when we have members of the military, you were-level members who are resigning or speaking out against some of the behaviors of this president, this lets us know we're on the precipice of something real and dangerous and far too many people don't understand the danger this president is putting us in. >> the thing they should consider is that history will record what you do and what you do not do. and long after this president and the next president is gone, your children'

their job would be to resource that overstretched to do what they can to keep us safe 28 year old man congress only released from prison last december he was jailed for planning a bomb attack on the london stock exchange in 2010 so also now widely reported his other targets back then included the u.s. embassy and boris johnson the mayor of london at the time he was still wearing his electronic tag when he carried out this attack which on top of 2 fatal it is 3 others were injured. these are eyewitness videos filmed in the area of a busy thoroughfare in the city of london as you can see some civilians managed to wrestle with the suspect pinning him to the ground managed to get a knife off the attacker who was then shot by police these are some describe the moment of the attack. people. thinking about. the big people rushing. basically there was a lot of movement going on the panic. what. kind of counsel is not like why do you have something going on. and then suddenly everybody said go down into the basement it was extremely frightening because you don't want to take you know you're not just i

. >> march the responses of other members of congress by searching, what are you reading? book tv.org. >> time to begin so thank you all for joining us this evening. there's a number of familiar faces i see but also a number of people who are new to me. this is the first time, i want to extend a special welcome to you. dating back to 1791, we have a fabulous library, 14 billion manuscripts which is made available to the public for research and we host an ample number of programs and exposition. this evening, a good friend of the historical society. i wanted to take a moment to greet everyone and without further ado, let's welcome him. [applause] >> good evening, thank you. he's put on a terrific number of programs here, including some conversations about where i first met him. it's a pleasure to have liz in the book. this is a book about a career based in the strong premise that cities were important and vital to this nation and country and to this world. i'll tell you one story, which lets you know how i felt about him. i was about 25 years old, working in my first week i

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we do report it to congress if it meets a certain threshold. and then internally we -- what threshold would that be? i don't know offhand. would like to look at that a little closer because small breach versus large breach, is that your threshold? size of the breach? what's your threshold? >> i believe it's 100,000, but i'll have to -- i will get back to you on that. >> chairman, i'm out of time but i think it's very important that these kinds of breaches be reported immediately to congress. >> i agree. >> mr. chairman, i'm out of time, so i yield. >> thank you very much. chair recognizes gentleman from texas for five minutes. thank you, mr. chairman. >> you know, we all want to protect civil liberties and privacy. when somebody's in the public domain as i understood in law school, there's no expectation of privacy. this technology in my judgment has really protected the nation from drug smugglers, gang members, and potential terrorists. biometrical, the last congress. it passed on the house for 272-119. now it's being held up. i'd like to exam

eric: what does congress say? that they have the purview in that they have the legal right to do that? >> both sides are arguing they have the purview. there is a similar case dating back to the bush administration. it was his white house counsel, harriet meyerss, that was a case the district court went against the president and compel the harriet miers to testify. but that case was settled before it got to appeal. can the president shield these people from the subpoena? it's not clear. eric: it pits the power of the presidency against congressional mandates. this is what the "wall street journal" said. the sweeping ruling essentially eliminates a right to confidentiality between a president and his most senior advisers. we hope this goes to the supreme court. the constitution ask's separation of power assumes coequal branches that would each vigorously defend its own interests. shouldn't it be congress' right to summon white house aides and presidential aides into congress to raise their right hand? >> that's the