i brought important change to massachusetts. i cut taxes 19 times, balance the budget every year i was governor. put in place a $2 billion ready date fund. -- rainy day fund. we had seen job losses in the months leading up to my becoming the governor. we began to finally create jobs. we created more jobs in massachusetts than barack obama has created in the entire country. we got our state police to enforce illegal immigration laws. i am very proud of the conservative record i have. that is why some of the leading conservatives in today's world who are fighting the conservative battles of the day, that do not have any axe to grind, have gotten behind my campaign. the governor of south carolina, the governor of new jersey. the great senator of new hampshire. these are conservatives that looked to my record, looked at my plan. i happen to believe if we want to replace a lifetime politician, like barack obama, you have to choose someone who has not been a lifelong politician. who has not spent his entire career in washington. has p

the british authorities, governor lawrence, governor shirley in massachusetts, and the men of massachusetts said now is the time to strike at acadia and nova scotia. what can we do there? if we push out the french, we will settle there. the land will be ours. it's wartime. the enemy cannot be trusted. and so the key to the expulsion was the new england invasion assisted and, of course, the new englanders were coming to nova scotia which was british territory but they were to making war against the french forts in the border region. that was what was occurring. and if those attacks were successful, then they could go about the expulsion and only if the attacks were successful. it was wartime again. and sure enough, the new england men, 2,000, with some british support, most of the troops were new england, they had some british ships assisting them and a hundred british troops. they took over the french canadian force. after those forts were taken over, the year was 1755. it was the summer. the government in nova scotia, the british government decided to go ahead with the evacuation. well, th

i brought important change to massachusetts. i cut taxes 19 times and balanced the budget every one of the four years i was governor, and put in place a rainy day fund. we had seen job losses in the months leading up to my becoming the governor, and then we began to finally create jobs. we created more jobs in massachusetts than barack obama's created in the entire country. we also got our state police to enforce illegal immigration laws, and put in place english emerged in our schools, and i am proud of the conservative records that i have, and i believe that's why some of those that don't have an axe to grind has gotten behind my campaign, governor haley, and chris christie, and these are conservatives that looked at my record, and i believe if we want to replace a life-time politician, like barack obama who had no experience leading anything, you have to choose somebody who has not been a lich-long politician and has not spent his entire career in washington and has proven time again he can lead, in the private sector twice,

this guy from massachusetts -- republican from massachusetts was not going to beat ted kennedy, and i told my partners in my firm, i'll be back in six months, don't take my chair. and i went in and gave it a real battle and went off it. i was happy that he had to take a mortgage out on his house to ultimately defeat me. and i'm -- i'm very proud of the fact that i have stood up, as a citizen, to battle what i felt it was best for the nation. and we're talking about running for president. i'm in this race because i care about the country. i believe my background and experience -- >> all right. let me bring dr. paul into this because there's a question about who is the true conservative in the race. and governor romney said only nine years ago, during an interview with new england cable news, he said the following, i think people recognize that i'm not a partisan republican, that i'm someone who is moderate and my views are progressive. do you believe governor romney now when he says that he is a man of constancy and that he'll stand up for conservative principles? >> you know, i think

massachusetts was uniquely able to deal with this. there are far fewer uninsured people in massachusetts than other states. he viewed it as a signature the achievement that help them run for president. right after he signed the legislature, he walked across boston, to go to the ritz carlton hotel to meet with advisers from iowa that he hoped would run his presidential campaign in the iowa caucus. it is something he thought would be important and he thought would be helpful politically. >host: does the massachusetts constitution require a balanced budget in the state? guest: he talks about the balanced budget but i don't want to say a wrong answer. host: did he more frequently choose to balance it by cutting government programs and services or by raising taxes? guest: there was a lot of controversy over some statements about fees because he raised a number of fees and does not like to call them tax hikes. other people say is the same deference. he did a combination of both. it is fair to say. he worked with the legislature who were 85%

and he kept massachusetts out of the greenhouse gas initiative. >> he ran for governor of massachusetts by declaring that he was pro choice. >> and when he became governor and had something brought to him and spent the time to think about what it really meant, spent a lot of time talking to people on the ethics side, people on the science side, he came to the conclusion that he really could not let that legislation -- >> so don't go by what he promises in the campaign? >> i think what you ought to go by is his record after he swore -- took his oath of office as governor. that's the stand that i think -- >> what about this larger question, another question? individual mandate. i believe that every person should take responsibility to some extent regardless, whatever their means, to take care of themselves if they get picked up in a traffic accident or they have a heart attack and they go to the hospital. they shouldn't be able to just walk into that emergency room and have somebody else's insurance pay for it. that's the president's position. that was governor romney's position in massac

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the only other exception to the massachusetts guy not winning in new hampshire, the massachusetts guy being surprisingly weak, defying history to lose new hampshire, the only other example? mitt romney. when he lost new hampshire in 2008 to john mccain of arizona. john mccain cleaned mitt romney's clock in 2008. mccain surged from a horrible fourth place finish in iowa to win in new hampshire, beating even the guy from massachusetts, who always wins new hampshire. then john mccain went to south carolina, not exactly a john mccain state and what happened in south carolina? not only did john mccain win there but his purported big serious establishment challenger, the massachusetts guy, got killed in south carolina. mitt romney came in fourth place in south carolina in 2008. he only got 15% of the vote. not only did john mccain beat him but mike huckabee beat him, too. and fred thompson beat him there. who? yeah, that fred thompson. put aside all of the coronation stuff, put aside all of the mitt romney inevitability storyline. blank slate. say you've been in a heyperbari chamber. if you

i know how to work in government as the governor of massachusetts. i will use the experience of my life to get america right. and i can convince the american people that someone with my experience is very different than barack obama and that experience is how i'll beat him. >> tom, that just might be the perfect example about the difference between the two. here you have a carefully planned and rehearsed romney presentation on why i'm electable and newt gingrich goes off into things that include some guy named solalinski and what was that you said about electability, newt? >> newt gingrich goes out and portrays himself as somebody as an outsider but he always returns to the inside. he lives within the confines of the beltway in washington. that's where his business is done. on the other hand, tonight for the first time, mitt romney not only seemed to have his act together, but he seemed more appealing to a lot of people even though there's people in that audience tonight -- i think there's a poll out today that you've probably seen, the new nbc/"wall

-- just so i understand, in massachusetts, everybody is mandated as a condition of breathing in massachusetts, to buy health insurance, and if you don't -- if you don't, you have to pay a fine. what's happened in massachusetts is that people are now paying the fine because health insurance is so expensive. and you have a preexisting condition clause in yours just like barack obama. what is happening in massachusetts, the people that governor romney said he wanted to go after, the people that were free-riding, free ridership has gone up five-fold in massachusetts. five times the rate it was before -- >> that's total, complete -- >> i'll be happy to give you the study. five times the rate it's gone up. why? people are ready to pay a cheaper fine and then be able to sign up to insurance, which are now guaranteed under romney care, than pay high cost insurance, which is what's happened as a result of romney care. >> first of all, it's not worth getting angry about. secondly -- 98% of the people have insurance. and so the idea that more people are free riding the system is simply impossible. half

massachusetts isn't quite so bad, and here i exaggerate a bit for effect. there is a point in these debates where the fellow taking down the notes, this is what he published, it was a day like every other day. the anti-federalists stood up and made their usual trivial objections to the constitution, and the federalists answered them, i just can't go on taking office nonsense down. you start to wonder about the reliability of what they did right. and this explains i think hudson's conclusion. he said that the records of the state ratifiers were so bad that it would be impossible to take them to understand, how the ratifiers understood the constitution, that they couldn't serve that purpose but to use trying to show the possibility of original content and condemn this. now, that was bad news for originalist. alt-a, it was not good news for his stories. we do not like to link very hard on cracked games. so, what's happened? there's been a revolution in 25 years, and the revolution is coming out of madison, wisconsin, a wonderful project of documentary editing

his medical retooling company used to be in massachusetts. so you're sitting on a plane. >> yes. >> reporter: and -- >> talking to a gentleman across the aisle. >> reporter: about your frustration? >> about our business, the frustration. not being approved in massachusetts to expand a building i owned. >> he was talking about his business and complaining. >> reporter: you're eavesdropping basically? >> no. i'm always independence teresteg to other people. i talked to him about possibly relocating to new hampshire. >> reporter: you said? >> love to. hadn't thought about it but what can you tell me? he said i'm the governor and if you give me your business card, we'd like to follow up. >> when i got back to new hampshire i asked people from our economic development office to contact him. >> i had 20, 30 e-mails of different spaces in new hampshire. >> reporter: a negotiator wouldn't let go. >> we narrowed it down to this place and he said, let me negotiate a better price for you. i said wow! >> reporter: skelley medical of new hampshire is now

i went to massachusetts to make a difference. i didn't go there to begin a political career running time and time again. i made a difference, i put in place the things i wanted to do, i listed out the accomplishments we wanted to pursue in our administration. there were 100 things we wanted to do. those things i pursued aggressively, some we won, some we didn't. run again? that would be about me. i was trying to help get the state as best shape as i could. left the world of politics, went back into business. i have the opportunity, i believe, to use the experience i have. you have a surprised look on your face. wait. it's still my time. >> are you going to tell people you're not going to run for re-election for president if you win? >> it's still my time. i'm just asking. >> okay. >> go ahead. governor romney, take 30 seconds there. >> yeah. what i'm going to tell you is, this for me, politics, is not a career. for me, my career was being in business and starting a business and making it successful. my life's passion has been my

it's state sits next to massachusetts where he was governor. the results of the primary will likely become clear within a few hours. >> the president of syria has lashed out at the arab league in his first public address in months. bashar al assad blamed his neighbors for isolating his country. assad defended the crackdown on antigovernment protestors. the president refused to respond to calls for his resignation. he says priority is on regaining security by hitting the terrorists with an iron hand. human rights groups said the speech was aimed at ordering troops to kill more citizens. the groups say government forces continue to fire on demonstrators across seyria killing about 30 people. several sent to assess the peace planned were also injured in attacks. the syrian administration has not offered any support to the monitors it has allowed into the country. >> opposition forces say the arab league is not doing anything to halt the crackdown. >>> the un security council is to reopen talks on syria. some members want u.n. to put more pressure

>> romney is definitely a conservative. >> how did he get elected in massachusetts known? >> because he believed in fiscal responsibility, and you've got a blue collar electorate in massachusetts which often turns to conservatives who believe in fiscal responsibility. reagan ran fairly well in massachusetts, if you'll recall. >> he did. >> because he believed in blue collar ideas which are basically fiscal conservatism. >> chris, we have a chat running in sunday's paper with the positions of all the candidates on -- on an awful lot of these issues, and i was struck by the fact that on paper there's no difference between and among candidates. they all say the same things, but i think you've got to go to the record, again, what has romney done that's really conservative versus what gingrich has done that is really conservative? >> would you recommend that your candidate gingrich go after governor romney hammer and tongue this saturday night on the abc debate and nbc debate, go after him with everything he can do? >> indeed. >> how could he sell papers if he doesn't? >> the p

. >>> the health care overhaul that mitt romney led in massachusetts has probably got more attention than anything else he did as governor. now as he runs for president, it gets a mixed reaction. depending who you ask, romneycare is either a clone of the national health care plan or the complete opposite. which is it? >> obama care, we'll get rid of it. >> it's bad law. it's bad medicine. >>ry repeal obamacare. >> critics say that play was, in fact, modelled off mitt romney himself's 2006 health care plan in massachusetts. one economist who helped design the so-called romneycare and also served as an advisor for obamacare is m.i.t.'s jonathan gruner. >> at their core they're really the same plan. basically, the basic goal of the massachusetts plan was to build on what worked with our health insurance system and to fill in the cracks to cover the uninsured and fix the broken market for individual insurance purchase. >> reporter: both laws do share the same core foundation. most employers are required to provide coverage. government programs like medicaid expanded to cover more people,

this guy from massachusetts -- republican from massachusetts was not going to beat ted kennedy, and i told my partners in my firm, i'll be back in six months, don't take my chair. and i went in and gave it a real battle and went off it. i was happy that he had to take a mortgage out on his house to ultimately defeat me. and i'm -- i'm very proud of the fact that i have stood up, as a citizen, to battle what i felt it was best for the nation. and we're talking about running for president. i'm in this race because i care about the country. i believe my background and experience -- >> all right. let me bring dr. paul into this because there's a question about who is the true conservative in the race. and governor romney said only nine years ago, during an interview with new england cable news, he said the following, i think people recognize that i'm not a partisan republican, that i'm someone who is moderate and my views are progressive. do you believe governor romney now when he says that he is a man of constancy and that he'll stand up for conservative principles? >> you know, i think

it's led to the highest cost health care in the nation in massachusetts. it's led to increased taxes. it's led to increased taxes on the federal level. because we've had to... we've been pumping literally billions of medicare dollars into the state of massachusetts to pay for romney care. it is an absolute disaster. and to have the two of them up against each other on the issue that americans are most... care most about and for us to give away that issue with governor romney would be a case of, in my opinion, malpractice on the part of the primary voters in the states to come. >> schieffer: is what you're saying, senator, is that mitt romney would be the worst candidate that republicans could put forward? he would be the weighingest candidate who would have the least chance to win? >> what i'm saying is he would not have the clear record that i have, that is better than anybody else in the field. that's why i'm running. of being for government out of the health care business, being for a plan that is a bottom-up private sector health care reform. i've had

the massachusetts family institute is an anti-gay group based in boston, massachusetts, that advocates all sorts of anti-gay causes. and that explains that if anybody is gay, well, you should quit that. "we encourage the healing of individuals who wish to change their choice of lifestyle through the work of exodus international, love won out, and parents and friends of ex-gays and gays." so in the same way that one might choose to be like a ski bum or a civil war reenactor or like i don't know, a mathlete, maybe. in the same way that one might choose to be any of those things, these guys say that being gay is something that you can just choose not to do. you can decide not to do it. and how do these recommended groups from the romney-funded organization propose that you do that? they promote magic therapy by which you can be cured of your affliction. like our old friend, richard cohen advertised. >> reporter: another technique, bioenergetics with, designed to help clients release memories stored in the muscles, in this case, hitting a pillow with a tennis rack et. >> i was angry with m

it's bad law. >> many say it was modelled off mitt romney's 2006 health care plan in massachusetts. one economist who designed the romneycare and served as an adviser for obamacare is john than. >> at the core, they are the same plan. the basic goal of the massachusetts plan was to build on what worked with the health system and fill the cracks of the uninsured. >> both laws do share the same core foundation. most employers are required to provide coverage. expand medicaid and individuals are required to have insurance. romney hates the comparison. >> mandate is a seven letter word. is mandate -- should mandates be a part of reforming health care? >> you are not going to put people in jail for not having insurance. >> you could penalize them. >> nobody is talking about that. there are ways to encourage people. get a tax credit that you only get to use if you have insurance. >> there's another difference. it's easier to get free health care because the income guidelines are lower. it's primarily paid for with new taxes. >> do you want more of obamacare? >> no! >> do you want promises

he was for massachusetts gun control and had a 400 am increase on taxes on guns. he appointed liberal judges in massachusetts. you go down the list. i cut taxes, he raised taxes. his entire site romney taxes.com all the tax increases he imposed. as a result they were 47th in the bottom of creating jobs as a speaker we created 11 million new jobs working with bill clinton to cut taxes, cut regulations and have job creation. the contrast is beginning to work. >> sean: this was not your strat when you started in iowa. last time you were on, you said you frankly were trying to have an experimented. that is you want to run a positive campaign. now you are running a comparative campaign. it is aimed directly at romney. would this be different had mitt romney super pack not run the millions of dollars of ads against you in iowa? >> sure, yes. i was very happy, i was running a totally positive campaign, solutions for jobs, solutions for balancing the budget. solutions for national security. as a result in the gallup poll, pulled away by 12-15 points. so i understand that

. >> but he's still a massachusetts moderate. and a massachusetts moderate cannot beat barack obama. >> that is something else. let's bring back dr. james peterson, lehigh university, caroline heldman, occidental college, and mike papantonio. in culturally conservative republican territory of south carolina, that ad hit it out of the park. dr. peterson, what do you think? >> so many problems with the ad. one, we should not be disrespecting the legacy of senator kennedy, that sickens me. also senator kerry, is a war her hero, the idea by virtue of speaking french somehow you're not american or somehow you are not sort of consistent with the principles of the people of south carolina and this country, all the things in there are sad you're right, ed, unfortunately, this will have some impact and will directly impact the ways in which folks think about mitt romney in south carolina. >> professor heldman your thoughts on the ad. we're talking about the cultural conservative attitude of republicans in south carolina. compare that with